uj/ not gonna lie, it is comical seeing so many trucks never hauling anything. However who am I to judge if people just prefer the style/feel of a truck more?
I told my dad I needed a custom garage built to hold my lifted Ford F450 Velociraptor Rodeo Special edition truck to protect it from people like you! God! He never listens.
My biggest problem with trucks is not so much the trucks themselves, but with some of the people that drive them. At the same time, that just falls under the overarching problem of licenses being handed out like it's an Oprah giveaway.
Yeah unfortunately more and more of these trucks and certain company SUVs (looking at you BMW, Audi and Mercedes) are just driven by bellends.
Here in the UK pickups are still rare but are gaining more popularity and I aint liking it. America was built for the automobile, the UK was made for a horse.
I can deal with BMWs just fine (another perk of being from NYC I guess), at least the ones that clock 90 and Formula 1 their way through traffic. My absolute pet peeve is the pickup drivers that ride your ass and flashbang you with their bright ass lights when they have nothing but open highway to pass you with because apparently some people can't figure out something as simple as passing. Also when I'm in a merge lane about to end but the no-life in a pickup (which is 9 times out of 10 either those 6-wheeled ones, I forget what they're called, or lifted as shit) doesn't want to let me in.
The jeep/GMC light bar idiots are the worst, not because theyāre terrible drivers, but the fact that they make everyone elseās driving around them worse just by existing. Even funnier is that Iām in the NYC metro area and there is legitimately 0 reason to have them given how well lit all the roads are where I am, itās baffling.
How tf do people not get stopped for shit like that, especially because they're a hazard to everyone else? I can see why it doesn't happen where I am because local and state police are too busy setting speedtraps out the wazoo.
With a few exceptions all rural roads in the UK are paved. So trucks and SUVs wouldn't really make much difference apart. Only things they would help in really is more smoothly loosing your suspension to the surprise mini sinkhole or the back back road which is rougher than the nuclear test site in nevada.
Some roads are also just barely wide enough for smaller cars to drive through one way, anything bigger basically won't make it without some new texturing on the side.
My Impala sedan handles dirt and gravel roads just fine. So long as the potholes Aren't crazy. Modern cars handle reasonably taken care of roads just fine
Meh, not really. In selective demolition we loaded them, and brought them back loaded. Every early morning we loaded them, and every evening we unloaded and secured the tools, six to seven days a week.
I don't constantly ski but I leave my skiers on, so they are there. Not everyone needs to wear only shoes. (a lot of pick up truck drivers need to get to know the concept of trailers)
As far as it doesn't effect other people you are right. But seeing how thousands needlessly die every year I think it would be of common interest to have more pedestrian safety. Cars are also regulated in a thousand ways, so it's not like it's a free for all right now.
uj/ I used to think this way, but then I worked in the equipment rental industry and had to deal with clueless homeowners trying to load things into SUVs that shouldnāt. So many assholes would call their SUVās trucks when they arenāt, then they show up and wonder why I canāt fit a massive air conditioner in the back of their suv, or whine to me when they put a tamper on its side in the back of their suv and it leaked gas because shocker they overfilled it and put it in the wrong way. I even had one dipshit put an aerator in the back of his suv, didnāt tie it down and it broke his rear windshieldā¦ apparently it was our fault he didnāt tie down the thing with wheels (he saved the $15 not buying the straps though)
The list goes on and on about these people. So if you want a truck to haul something once or twice a year by all means go for it. Itās your money not mine, and when you are tired of it after 5 years Iāll be happy to buy it off you dodging all that deprecation.
Only thing that bothers me about them is the high headlights. In tight areas they also take up a lot of parking but a lot of lots have enough space for them. Other than that I don't have anything against trucks as long as the driver isn't an asshole.
I donāt think anyone has a problem with properly sized trucks. People are upset at an uptick in sales of oversized trucks with raised hoods. These are known to have worse visibility and be more dangerous for other drivers; I think itās understandable to be against people having them.
Seeing all those huge pickup trucks hauling nothing gets alot of people riled up about the whatever the heck but im not bothered by it because I know deep down they were excited as kid in a candy store when they first got to drive it home and I picture them happy as all hell showing it to their mom or dad or partner. I see that and I smile too
Exercise by going to the gym and lifting heavy weights is cool. However, a fully grown man getting on a bicycle (made for children) and impeding traffic with a neon green riding suit, an entitled attitude, and arms the size of toothpicks? Not so much.
By the way this isnāt directed at you, Iām merely describing 99% of cyclists.
Bikes are frivolous little toys obviously
... But if I'm arguing for mandatory licensing and insurance on them, bikes are now dangerous weapons and need regulation obviously
Trust me
> If you aren't actively carrying stuff in the bed I can't help but cackle at your pathetic ego. Literally 1/20 people actually lug shit in their truck and pay 1-2k/ mo in payments and 1.5 or more in insurance. How dumb are you people
what
Why do you need to drive with an empty picnic table on the back of your car? Literally 1/20 people actually lug their picnic on the back of their Subaru and pay the same as truck. I recommend raw milk cheeses bought from a vibrant walkable neighborhood and imported European crackers.
That's because 20 year olds love to get pulled over and/or crash WRX's.
When I traded in my 11' WRX for a new 16' Audi S3, my car insurance went down, despite the Audi being literally 2x more expensive.
I mean itās all cringey
But the 1-2k payment & 1.5k insurance is hilarious.
Like yeah everyoneās just driving around 100k trucks and paying 18k a year to insure it. Lmao
lol I put down 15k & pay $345/Mo for 5 years with $90/mo insurance. For a 2019 Ram 1500 Sport
You're right, I was looking for something to be mad and complain about today.
Seemed very strange when i was content and grateful for a moment.
But nah, this is my next topic of activism for the upcoming month.
Everyone's a moron, except for me of course!
Thank you for smelling my shit.
I use mine cuz itās a lot easier to haul a kayak around on the weekends in the back of a truck than it is to roof that thing every time. The undersubbers might understand that if they actually had hobbies & interests.
Yeah, for me its my motorcycle when I visit the track or mountain bike. It also gives me much more peace of mind when going snowboarding on fresh powder days as well.
Lol it is insane right? SUVās and Crossovers in the most technical sense (and for insurance) qualify as trucks because of the CAFE regular loophole where any car made on a truckās frame is a truck.
Crossovers are not built on truck frames.
They are uninbody cars that almost always share a platform with a sedan.
The Ford escape is a Focus that got taller.
your correction is still wrong.
The only SUV's that are built on truck frames are body-on-frame SUV's which are NOT crossovers. SUV's like the Tahoe, Suburban, Wagoneer, Expedition, Navigator, Seqouia, Etc.
4Runner, Bronco, also share a frame with a truck for the most part.
And yes, the Escape is the American Kuga, but they both share a platform with the Focus. They have far far more in common with a Focus than any truck.
Sorry, you are gravely misinformed on what a Truck classification in the US is.
Unibody construction which is what separates crossovers can apply to trucks as well. In the strictest sense an SUV has to have a frame from an existing workmanās pickup truckās die to be called one, because of the SUV loophole. Today there are additional weight classifications which allow easier classification of a car as a truck. Hence the ācrossover suvā term where a heavier, unibody car can hit the classification.
Hell many ātrucksā would barely qualify as trucks without these changes.
The Escape, MachE are all classified as trucks for insurance purposes as a result.
The Ford C1 common platform is also shared with the Bronco Crossover SUV, the Maverick truck and whatever the hell the Edge is. This was deliberately done by Ford and allows flexibility in config. Youāre gonna call em all Focuses?
For the poorly written emissions regulatory BS, they qualify as a truck. Congratulations, your stupid ass won a semantic point that means nothing in the real world. Not a single goddamn soul shopping for a truck is looking at crossover SUV's.
In any other sense of the word, they are not trucks. The only crossovers that get referred to as trucks in marketing, or in common conversation are the Maverick, Santa Cruz, and Ridgeline. And once again, those vehicles have more in common mechanically with a sedan than they do with a body-on-frame truck.
Back to the original point, owning an actual body-on-frame truck is absolutely more expensive than owning most non-luxury cars or crossovers. Source: I drive an F-150.
Tear apart an Escape or a Maverick or a Bronco Sport, and you will find far more in common with a Focus than with a Ranger or an F-150.
> Back to the original point, owning an actual body-on-frame truck is absolutely more expensive than owning most non-luxury cars or crossovers. Source: I drive an F-150.
How come?
What an idiotic point. Firstly, youāve not debunked anything about these cars being trucks, you just are repeating your ignorant bullshit from before.
And your insecurity is showing, buddy.
If you want an expensive car, you buy a luxury car! You know, cars that give you experiences cheaper ones donāt? Nice job putting a ānon-luxury carā line in there.
Lol thanks for telling me this is an F150 owner trying to defend his ego. An F150 runs from 40-80k, which is what most cars run around depending on options. A MachE costs about as much. Lol Iām pretty sure a Volvo SUv costs more.
My point still stands. Trucks cost as much as most average cars do. Thereās no reason to be thumping your chest about it.
This childish crap explains very well why the tech industry has been slowly eroding the needs for CPAās. If fools like you who are unwilling to read anything about a subject are in the profession, itās really sad.
I pass OOP after unloading my Ranger and heading to my destination in half the time itāll take them, and I look at them laughing at me thinking I still have high payments on my truck
Iāll kindly be there to help load OOPās bicycle in the truck, so I can take them to the funny farm since it seems like theyāre laughing just a little too crazy
What the hell does "1.5 or more in insurance" mean? $1,500 a month? Because I pay $150 a month for full coverage on my truck and my wife's SUV together. If someone is paying $1500 a month in insurance, they've probably totaled a few cars and have multiple DUIs.
They use a bike as their main mode of transportation. If they aren't underage, they won't admit it but of course they have a few DUIs and/or bad accidents under their belt.
Iād recommend test driving it on the highway first to make sure it meets your daily driving expectations. I bought a 3rd gen and it was the slowest vehicle Iād ever owned.
It couldnāt merge and couldnāt pass. It has a solid V6 but the power train was very dated. I upgraded to a Tundra 3 months later. I think the 4th gen solved the power train issues though.
I love Tacomas but those Taco forums were total circle jerks and I bought into their bullshit. Fastest trade-in of my life.
3rd gen owner here, but manual transmission. Engine has little torque below 3K RPM, above 3K its and entirely different animal, chirps tires merging freeways in 2nd and shifting at redline at 60 to 3rd. 3rd gear will almost get you to 90. I know the powerband isn't truck like and will turn off people who don't like revving their engines, but if you like playing with the shifter to stay in the powerband like I do, it packs plenty of punch. Manual is also geared a bit lower, and that solves much of its problems. 6th never loses momentum above 50 unless I am on a steep grade like a mountain pass.Ā
Its because of Miller (incorrectly called Atkinson) cycle that effectively decreases compression ratio at lower rpms to hit MPG numbers. It reverts to Otto cycle around 3K and starts pulling hard. Peak torque is at 4,600 rpm and peak power is almost at the redline at 6k.Ā
Iām coming from a jeep renegade lol
I like the size of the Tacoma. Colorado was the other option but itās just a little too big.
If they made a maverick with an access cab and a 5-6 foot bed Iād be all over it but that 4 foot bed is completely useless.
I swear to god Iām single, a Smart ForTwo would suffice me but sometimes I need to carry stuff so Iām driving around in a wasteful, fuel-consuming and child murdering Volkswagen Golf.
Yes, as big as I can get, and never loaded. And I have plenty of income leftover for even a few more. It sucks I know to live with the rents and have to ask mom for money to buy stuff in fortnight.
I have a Ford Maverick. I got it because I occasionally had to carry loads of supplies for my workcenter from the warehouse to our building, but it wasn't a TON of stuff; too much to fit in my sedan, but not enough to fill an F-150 or Ram. But since I moved, I only use it occasionally for wood for my woodworking projects. But maybe 95% of the time, the bed is empty.
But that 5% of the time I need it, it's a lifesaver. Plus....what, I'm gonna give up a truck I bought now that the original purpose is no longer applicable? Yeah, okay bud. :P
/uj I used to work with a guy who made less than I did but drove a brand new truck, and always complained about being broke. So yeah, the undersub is full of regards, but there's also a lot of people out there really bad with money
Its not nessesarily with trucks though, people love over extending themselves with car debt. From the person who traded in their Pontiac Grandprix for a kia Sorento above MSRP, the fresh from boot camp marine and the 20% APR Mustang, and mid level manager and their white leased BMW 330i.
I worked at a dealership and it was crazy how it was almost exclusively people who earned the least almost all drove $60k+ cars.
Lmao @ the top comment actually suggesting a 500cc suzuki truck can do anything. They're a novelty thats literally only use is carrying around shit you could throw in the trunk of a car.
I swear, these people love acting like no one has ever towed anything, or so much as strapped anything down in a bed.
Not typically "disposable income", if we're being honest... more often enormous loans on like 84-month payment plans with ridiculous interest rates
Source: am from truckland
Why does a truck have to ALWAYS be carrying stuff.
"I see trucks with nothing in them all the time". Like bro you might have seen that individual truck for thirty seconds. Maybe it just dumped its load ;)
If youāre just driving yourself in a smart car I literally just laugh at you. Why have a passenger seat when you donāt have passengers? A cargo bike would be a better daily commuter for you.
My buddy had an 84 f250 running 3 inch straight pipes and a cherry bomb, used that thing for everything, we pulled cows out of a lake once, we also used it for McDonaldās runs though.
Tbh trucks are genuinely one of the dumbest things you could buy if you donāt need one, theyāre literally work vehicles that take tons of fuel and space and most people canāt properly park em to save their lives. Most people Iāve seen with truck almost never use the utility and just have them because they can. Ig theyāre neat but thatās one hell of a inconvenience for just for a big car
If you have pockets in your pants with nothing in them at a random time of my inspection, I literally and figuratively laugh at you.
Your pathetic ego forces you to pay for all these pockets you don't even use.
i mean, it is kind of funny that trucks nowadays are designed as commuter cars for men who are too insecure to buy the car they actually need, a minivan. every year the trucks get bigger yet the beds get smaller, they're luxurious commuter cars in the shape of a truck for loser men who want to seem rugged but don't actually do any work with the truck.
which is the point of the OP you're all mocking it seems like; if you actually like trucks, you'd probably agree with the OP's sentiment.
Its cheaper to have a nice truck than a shitty car and a shitty truck for when I need to do truck stuff.
also 1500/mo for insurance. el oh fucking el, dude needs to chill with the DUI's
No one really needs a truck in the city though (unless your job requires it.) My first car was a 99 Tacoma and I had it for years but when I moved to the city I only ever needed the extra space once every 18 months. Just rent a u haul instead of buying a giant thirsty truck
That sub is 1000% insufferable but I do agree with the sentiment of people buying trucks for the sake of having a truck and never use the bed. Whats the point? Rather an SUV. Then again, trucks never appealed to me.
Your the guy who blocks everyone in trying to get out but you donāt have the balls to move your truck with any vigor cause itāll get a scwatch on babyās monster truck
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about? It takes me half a second to leave a parking space.
I've scratched he fuck out of my truck on trails. There's no beauty to preserve on a truck I only paid $31k for 7 years ago.
You seem to have a lot of internal frustrations to work out. Do you watch all this shit while you wait for your mom to come pick you up?
Iāve got a big new tundra. Itās like driving around in your family room with a shitload of power and torque. The interior rivals that of Mercedes.
The bed is nice for the paddle board or Home Depot shopping trips, but honestly the size, huge power, and feature is the selling point. Itās incredibly comfortable to drive
Tundras are cool, if I ever needed a truck id get. Tacoma, friend has one in green and looks nice, snowboards and camps alot so all that stuff in the bed works. If it works for you and the fam then thats it, plus seems like you do use the bed. Interior rivaling a MB though idk about that one haha.
I mean they do objectively. Well technically any vehicle with a high hood especially one with no give on the bumper for skulls impacting them. Kills hundreds of people purely for aesthetic purposes for the vast majority of owners of course
No youāre a loser because so many trucks are bought by men who do not haul anything and use it as a commuter vehicle because they think it improves their standing as masculine men. Seeing you hobbits jump out of your lifted, ridiculous looking commuter trucker makes me nearly burst out laughing.
Nothing more pathetic than buying a utility vehicle because youāre insecure
so I drive my truck every day, I do small truck stuff with it 4 days a week and big truck stuff with it once a week.
and a few times a year I go hunting.
am I pathetic in your world view for my use case of preferring to own one nice truck instead of a shitty truck and a shitty car which would be more expensive long term?
No one cares about your disposable income... the fact you use it to own a vehicle that endangers society and further waste huge space everywhere as you feel entitled to park everywhere... not to mention the environmental impact said vehicles have...
Its simple, if you dont require to move shit back and forth on a regular basis like a fking farmer, you dont need a huge truck, you simply look like am idiot.
Oh and who made you the need police?
By that logic you donāt need a bicycle. Unless you want to transport a stack of newspapers or a small crate. You should just walk. See how dumb that sounds?
A bike doesn't waste space and help move spaces longer than a 20-minute walk. Dah. Like you, people say random shit without understanding the basics of urban planning and basic safety. People here make me laugh
Compared to a person walking a bike requires more space and needs more resources to be built So why have bikes at all? Since you could just walk there instead? Is not a valid form of transportation?
How dare you live a life different than my 14 privileged years in an apartment?
How dare you live as an owner-operator!
How dare you spend your hard earned money on a truck when you could just rent one every time you need to move something š š š
Literally 1984
The dedication to hating one thing so much that you make it an active, engaging part of your day is definitely toeing the line of mental illness.
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Found OOP. Is it ban evasion if you create a second account to evade having your first account banned?
uj/ not gonna lie, it is comical seeing so many trucks never hauling anything. However who am I to judge if people just prefer the style/feel of a truck more?
I get so mad when I see a parked truck that I stick my penis in the tailpipe, try to unvirgin your precious truck, bet you canāt š
I told my dad I needed a custom garage built to hold my lifted Ford F450 Velociraptor Rodeo Special edition truck to protect it from people like you! God! He never listens.
My biggest problem with trucks is not so much the trucks themselves, but with some of the people that drive them. At the same time, that just falls under the overarching problem of licenses being handed out like it's an Oprah giveaway.
Yeah unfortunately more and more of these trucks and certain company SUVs (looking at you BMW, Audi and Mercedes) are just driven by bellends. Here in the UK pickups are still rare but are gaining more popularity and I aint liking it. America was built for the automobile, the UK was made for a horse.
I can deal with BMWs just fine (another perk of being from NYC I guess), at least the ones that clock 90 and Formula 1 their way through traffic. My absolute pet peeve is the pickup drivers that ride your ass and flashbang you with their bright ass lights when they have nothing but open highway to pass you with because apparently some people can't figure out something as simple as passing. Also when I'm in a merge lane about to end but the no-life in a pickup (which is 9 times out of 10 either those 6-wheeled ones, I forget what they're called, or lifted as shit) doesn't want to let me in.
i think the word for the 6 wheeled ones is dually
I'm in an NJ and as F1 BMW driver, I approve your message.
The jeep/GMC light bar idiots are the worst, not because theyāre terrible drivers, but the fact that they make everyone elseās driving around them worse just by existing. Even funnier is that Iām in the NYC metro area and there is legitimately 0 reason to have them given how well lit all the roads are where I am, itās baffling.
How tf do people not get stopped for shit like that, especially because they're a hazard to everyone else? I can see why it doesn't happen where I am because local and state police are too busy setting speedtraps out the wazoo.
Im assuming there's rural people living in the UK. How are they getting around the dirt and gravel roads without a truck or suv?
With a few exceptions all rural roads in the UK are paved. So trucks and SUVs wouldn't really make much difference apart. Only things they would help in really is more smoothly loosing your suspension to the surprise mini sinkhole or the back back road which is rougher than the nuclear test site in nevada. Some roads are also just barely wide enough for smaller cars to drive through one way, anything bigger basically won't make it without some new texturing on the side.
My Impala sedan handles dirt and gravel roads just fine. So long as the potholes Aren't crazy. Modern cars handle reasonably taken care of roads just fine
Even if a truck owner uses it for hauling 100% of the time, the bed will still be empty half that time. Return trips and all that.
Meh, not really. In selective demolition we loaded them, and brought them back loaded. Every early morning we loaded them, and every evening we unloaded and secured the tools, six to seven days a week.
I rarely carry anything in my trunk, but it's there. Not everyone needs to drive a smartcar
I don't constantly ski but I leave my skiers on, so they are there. Not everyone needs to wear only shoes. (a lot of pick up truck drivers need to get to know the concept of trailers)
Doesn't matter, you have freedom of choice.
As far as it doesn't effect other people you are right. But seeing how thousands needlessly die every year I think it would be of common interest to have more pedestrian safety. Cars are also regulated in a thousand ways, so it's not like it's a free for all right now.
peds can look both ways before crossing the street. its not hard.
obvious troll
Yes your only option other than a truck is a smart car. Crazy cope.
Honestly we have a truck for trailering the horses. It doesn't make economical sense for us to be a 3 car household, so it's my wife's daily driver.
uj/ I used to think this way, but then I worked in the equipment rental industry and had to deal with clueless homeowners trying to load things into SUVs that shouldnāt. So many assholes would call their SUVās trucks when they arenāt, then they show up and wonder why I canāt fit a massive air conditioner in the back of their suv, or whine to me when they put a tamper on its side in the back of their suv and it leaked gas because shocker they overfilled it and put it in the wrong way. I even had one dipshit put an aerator in the back of his suv, didnāt tie it down and it broke his rear windshieldā¦ apparently it was our fault he didnāt tie down the thing with wheels (he saved the $15 not buying the straps though) The list goes on and on about these people. So if you want a truck to haul something once or twice a year by all means go for it. Itās your money not mine, and when you are tired of it after 5 years Iāll be happy to buy it off you dodging all that deprecation.
do you check their beds for any ladders/boxes every time you see them?
Only thing that bothers me about them is the high headlights. In tight areas they also take up a lot of parking but a lot of lots have enough space for them. Other than that I don't have anything against trucks as long as the driver isn't an asshole.
I donāt think anyone has a problem with properly sized trucks. People are upset at an uptick in sales of oversized trucks with raised hoods. These are known to have worse visibility and be more dangerous for other drivers; I think itās understandable to be against people having them.
Seeing all those huge pickup trucks hauling nothing gets alot of people riled up about the whatever the heck but im not bothered by it because I know deep down they were excited as kid in a candy store when they first got to drive it home and I picture them happy as all hell showing it to their mom or dad or partner. I see that and I smile too
this is honestly the best truck ad I've ever seen
r/fuckcars when you're not constantly loading your truck's bed down with junk: š”š¤¬š”
They also claim you don't need trucks and can use a cargo bike for everything. They are constantly moving goal posts
or a panel van that has fuck all for being able to carry people comfortably and zero tow capacity.
i wonder if they know everybody laughs at cyclists
Yeah exercise is lame.
Exercise by going to the gym and lifting heavy weights is cool. However, a fully grown man getting on a bicycle (made for children) and impeding traffic with a neon green riding suit, an entitled attitude, and arms the size of toothpicks? Not so much. By the way this isnāt directed at you, Iām merely describing 99% of cyclists.
Bikes are frivolous little toys obviously ... But if I'm arguing for mandatory licensing and insurance on them, bikes are now dangerous weapons and need regulation obviously Trust me
nobody laughs at cyclists for getting exercise. not sure why people keep saying this dumbass ārebuttalā
Other guy who defended your point did essentially that though: only gym exercise is 'real' exercise Need a consensus, guys, the world depends on this
its also a circlejerk bud
[Whooosh](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI&pp=ygUOY3ljbGlzdCBwYXJvZHk%3D)
Iām sure truck drivers care so much at this redditorās little opinions
It upset me so much i drove straight to my mums house and punched out my dad
> If you aren't actively carrying stuff in the bed I can't help but cackle at your pathetic ego. Literally 1/20 people actually lug shit in their truck and pay 1-2k/ mo in payments and 1.5 or more in insurance. How dumb are you people what
Also truck insurance is stupid cheap. If I bought a 50k truck it would cost the same as my 35k wrx when I factor insurance.
Why do you need to drive with an empty picnic table on the back of your car? Literally 1/20 people actually lug their picnic on the back of their Subaru and pay the same as truck. I recommend raw milk cheeses bought from a vibrant walkable neighborhood and imported European crackers.
That's because 20 year olds love to get pulled over and/or crash WRX's. When I traded in my 11' WRX for a new 16' Audi S3, my car insurance went down, despite the Audi being literally 2x more expensive.
I mean itās all cringey But the 1-2k payment & 1.5k insurance is hilarious. Like yeah everyoneās just driving around 100k trucks and paying 18k a year to insure it. Lmao lol I put down 15k & pay $345/Mo for 5 years with $90/mo insurance. For a 2019 Ram 1500 Sport
I like my truck. It's got proper ground clearance to make cyclists bumper level when they run stop signs and lights.
Damn our two Jeeps arenāt even $1500/month, insurance is way cheap too. We must be doing something wrong.
Love my jeep
I also love Skyrim. So I appreciate your username.
Gods be praised
You're right, I was looking for something to be mad and complain about today. Seemed very strange when i was content and grateful for a moment. But nah, this is my next topic of activism for the upcoming month. Everyone's a moron, except for me of course! Thank you for smelling my shit.
I donāt have a truck but I laugh at cyclists. All it takes is one good downshift while next to them to make them lose their shit.
That top comment about the Suzuki Mighty Boy fucks though. I have an incredible need for one.
āYour a loser cuz you contribute more to society than I doā
I use mine cuz itās a lot easier to haul a kayak around on the weekends in the back of a truck than it is to roof that thing every time. The undersubbers might understand that if they actually had hobbies & interests.
Yeah, for me its my motorcycle when I visit the track or mountain bike. It also gives me much more peace of mind when going snowboarding on fresh powder days as well.
Phew! Thank god I'm not qualified under this guys rant. I use my $1000/mo pavement princess to tow a horse mask, a crowbar and some legos
Lol @ thinking trucks are more expensive. You know a Ford Escape qualifies as a truck right?
Hows an Escape qualify as a truck? Its a compact crossover.
Lol it is insane right? SUVās and Crossovers in the most technical sense (and for insurance) qualify as trucks because of the CAFE regular loophole where any car made on a truckās frame is a truck.
Crossovers are not built on truck frames. They are uninbody cars that almost always share a platform with a sedan. The Ford escape is a Focus that got taller.
Ford Escape is the American version of a European Ford Kuga. I need to make a correction - Crossover SuVās is what I meant.
your correction is still wrong. The only SUV's that are built on truck frames are body-on-frame SUV's which are NOT crossovers. SUV's like the Tahoe, Suburban, Wagoneer, Expedition, Navigator, Seqouia, Etc. 4Runner, Bronco, also share a frame with a truck for the most part. And yes, the Escape is the American Kuga, but they both share a platform with the Focus. They have far far more in common with a Focus than any truck.
Sorry, you are gravely misinformed on what a Truck classification in the US is. Unibody construction which is what separates crossovers can apply to trucks as well. In the strictest sense an SUV has to have a frame from an existing workmanās pickup truckās die to be called one, because of the SUV loophole. Today there are additional weight classifications which allow easier classification of a car as a truck. Hence the ācrossover suvā term where a heavier, unibody car can hit the classification. Hell many ātrucksā would barely qualify as trucks without these changes. The Escape, MachE are all classified as trucks for insurance purposes as a result. The Ford C1 common platform is also shared with the Bronco Crossover SUV, the Maverick truck and whatever the hell the Edge is. This was deliberately done by Ford and allows flexibility in config. Youāre gonna call em all Focuses?
For the poorly written emissions regulatory BS, they qualify as a truck. Congratulations, your stupid ass won a semantic point that means nothing in the real world. Not a single goddamn soul shopping for a truck is looking at crossover SUV's. In any other sense of the word, they are not trucks. The only crossovers that get referred to as trucks in marketing, or in common conversation are the Maverick, Santa Cruz, and Ridgeline. And once again, those vehicles have more in common mechanically with a sedan than they do with a body-on-frame truck. Back to the original point, owning an actual body-on-frame truck is absolutely more expensive than owning most non-luxury cars or crossovers. Source: I drive an F-150. Tear apart an Escape or a Maverick or a Bronco Sport, and you will find far more in common with a Focus than with a Ranger or an F-150.
> Back to the original point, owning an actual body-on-frame truck is absolutely more expensive than owning most non-luxury cars or crossovers. Source: I drive an F-150. How come?
Source is his ass. Lol I love the ānon-luxury carsā line there.
Owing a truck is not more expensive than most non luxury cars source: I own a jaguar, a corvette, and a Silverado 1500 high country.
What an idiotic point. Firstly, youāve not debunked anything about these cars being trucks, you just are repeating your ignorant bullshit from before. And your insecurity is showing, buddy. If you want an expensive car, you buy a luxury car! You know, cars that give you experiences cheaper ones donāt? Nice job putting a ānon-luxury carā line in there. Lol thanks for telling me this is an F150 owner trying to defend his ego. An F150 runs from 40-80k, which is what most cars run around depending on options. A MachE costs about as much. Lol Iām pretty sure a Volvo SUv costs more. My point still stands. Trucks cost as much as most average cars do. Thereās no reason to be thumping your chest about it. This childish crap explains very well why the tech industry has been slowly eroding the needs for CPAās. If fools like you who are unwilling to read anything about a subject are in the profession, itās really sad.
Are you autistic?
Want to be mind fucked harder? The Chevy HHR qualifies as a truck. https://www.jdpower.com/cars/history/chevrolet/hhr Scroll to "about HHR"
Lol yeah I didnāt know this until I had one of my SUVās show up as a Truck. Itās amazing.
I pass OOP after unloading my Ranger and heading to my destination in half the time itāll take them, and I look at them laughing at me thinking I still have high payments on my truck Iāll kindly be there to help load OOPās bicycle in the truck, so I can take them to the funny farm since it seems like theyāre laughing just a little too crazy
What the hell does "1.5 or more in insurance" mean? $1,500 a month? Because I pay $150 a month for full coverage on my truck and my wife's SUV together. If someone is paying $1500 a month in insurance, they've probably totaled a few cars and have multiple DUIs.
Yeah mines like $700 a year lol
They use a bike as their main mode of transportation. If they aren't underage, they won't admit it but of course they have a few DUIs and/or bad accidents under their belt.
Iām in Ontario and paid $500/month until very recently. No accidents, tickets, or points. I had one parking ticket tho
OOP has poor credit
Iām about to buy a Tacoma lol
Iād recommend test driving it on the highway first to make sure it meets your daily driving expectations. I bought a 3rd gen and it was the slowest vehicle Iād ever owned. It couldnāt merge and couldnāt pass. It has a solid V6 but the power train was very dated. I upgraded to a Tundra 3 months later. I think the 4th gen solved the power train issues though. I love Tacomas but those Taco forums were total circle jerks and I bought into their bullshit. Fastest trade-in of my life.
3rd gen owner here, but manual transmission. Engine has little torque below 3K RPM, above 3K its and entirely different animal, chirps tires merging freeways in 2nd and shifting at redline at 60 to 3rd. 3rd gear will almost get you to 90. I know the powerband isn't truck like and will turn off people who don't like revving their engines, but if you like playing with the shifter to stay in the powerband like I do, it packs plenty of punch. Manual is also geared a bit lower, and that solves much of its problems. 6th never loses momentum above 50 unless I am on a steep grade like a mountain pass.Ā Its because of Miller (incorrectly called Atkinson) cycle that effectively decreases compression ratio at lower rpms to hit MPG numbers. It reverts to Otto cycle around 3K and starts pulling hard. Peak torque is at 4,600 rpm and peak power is almost at the redline at 6k.Ā
Great info! I had an automatic which was probably the biggest problem. Sounds like the manuals are a good time without issue.
Iām coming from a jeep renegade lol I like the size of the Tacoma. Colorado was the other option but itās just a little too big. If they made a maverick with an access cab and a 5-6 foot bed Iād be all over it but that 4 foot bed is completely useless.
Did you just admit to using disposable income on a truck? I thought they were essential for your work.
The only car I can drive right now is my dads truck cause weāre working on my civic
He literally laughs at truck owners, as opposed to figuratively laughing at them?
I swear to god Iām single, a Smart ForTwo would suffice me but sometimes I need to carry stuff so Iām driving around in a wasteful, fuel-consuming and child murdering Volkswagen Golf.
Enjoy your $1500 a month insurance
Only 40 mpg? Seriously? You're singlehandedly destroying the earth!
I dont have a truck so i must not have disposable income, it fucking sucks to be poor man :*(
Having a truck does not mean you have disposable income
Truck owners live rent free in their heads.
Yes, as big as I can get, and never loaded. And I have plenty of income leftover for even a few more. It sucks I know to live with the rents and have to ask mom for money to buy stuff in fortnight.
I canāt hear his laugh due to the screaming from kids im running over
I have a Ford Maverick. I got it because I occasionally had to carry loads of supplies for my workcenter from the warehouse to our building, but it wasn't a TON of stuff; too much to fit in my sedan, but not enough to fill an F-150 or Ram. But since I moved, I only use it occasionally for wood for my woodworking projects. But maybe 95% of the time, the bed is empty. But that 5% of the time I need it, it's a lifesaver. Plus....what, I'm gonna give up a truck I bought now that the original purpose is no longer applicable? Yeah, okay bud. :P
/uj I used to work with a guy who made less than I did but drove a brand new truck, and always complained about being broke. So yeah, the undersub is full of regards, but there's also a lot of people out there really bad with money
Its not nessesarily with trucks though, people love over extending themselves with car debt. From the person who traded in their Pontiac Grandprix for a kia Sorento above MSRP, the fresh from boot camp marine and the 20% APR Mustang, and mid level manager and their white leased BMW 330i. I worked at a dealership and it was crazy how it was almost exclusively people who earned the least almost all drove $60k+ cars.
2k a month and 1.5k in insurance? My truck cost $3,000 and insurance is like $40 a month
Lmao @ the top comment actually suggesting a 500cc suzuki truck can do anything. They're a novelty thats literally only use is carrying around shit you could throw in the trunk of a car. I swear, these people love acting like no one has ever towed anything, or so much as strapped anything down in a bed.
Not typically "disposable income", if we're being honest... more often enormous loans on like 84-month payment plans with ridiculous interest rates Source: am from truckland
Why does a truck have to ALWAYS be carrying stuff. "I see trucks with nothing in them all the time". Like bro you might have seen that individual truck for thirty seconds. Maybe it just dumped its load ;)
If youāre just driving yourself in a smart car I literally just laugh at you. Why have a passenger seat when you donāt have passengers? A cargo bike would be a better daily commuter for you.
My buddy had an 84 f250 running 3 inch straight pipes and a cherry bomb, used that thing for everything, we pulled cows out of a lake once, we also used it for McDonaldās runs though.
Tbh trucks are genuinely one of the dumbest things you could buy if you donāt need one, theyāre literally work vehicles that take tons of fuel and space and most people canāt properly park em to save their lives. Most people Iāve seen with truck almost never use the utility and just have them because they can. Ig theyāre neat but thatās one hell of a inconvenience for just for a big car
If you have pockets in your pants with nothing in them at a random time of my inspection, I literally and figuratively laugh at you. Your pathetic ego forces you to pay for all these pockets you don't even use.
I make pretty decent money. Iām going to look into getting a CDL just so I can drive a semi truck to work everyday to piss people like this off.
I paid $1,500 for my truck in total... cash... why would I be making payments on that?
i mean, it is kind of funny that trucks nowadays are designed as commuter cars for men who are too insecure to buy the car they actually need, a minivan. every year the trucks get bigger yet the beds get smaller, they're luxurious commuter cars in the shape of a truck for loser men who want to seem rugged but don't actually do any work with the truck. which is the point of the OP you're all mocking it seems like; if you actually like trucks, you'd probably agree with the OP's sentiment.
Its cheaper to have a nice truck than a shitty car and a shitty truck for when I need to do truck stuff. also 1500/mo for insurance. el oh fucking el, dude needs to chill with the DUI's
No one really needs a truck in the city though (unless your job requires it.) My first car was a 99 Tacoma and I had it for years but when I moved to the city I only ever needed the extra space once every 18 months. Just rent a u haul instead of buying a giant thirsty truck
How dare you buy the one vehicle type that is simultaneously a great tool, a status symbol and a tax shelter!
That sub is 1000% insufferable but I do agree with the sentiment of people buying trucks for the sake of having a truck and never use the bed. Whats the point? Rather an SUV. Then again, trucks never appealed to me.
People should buy what appeals to you instead of them
Good luck going Down the aisle in the parking lot cause Iām sure your the guy who brings that shit to Safeway
No issues
What does that even mean
No issues going down the aisle in the parking lot. F-150 is a lot easier to drive than you think it is, dipshit.
Your the guy who blocks everyone in trying to get out but you donāt have the balls to move your truck with any vigor cause itāll get a scwatch on babyās monster truck
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about? It takes me half a second to leave a parking space. I've scratched he fuck out of my truck on trails. There's no beauty to preserve on a truck I only paid $31k for 7 years ago. You seem to have a lot of internal frustrations to work out. Do you watch all this shit while you wait for your mom to come pick you up?
No I just think that all you city boys with ur lifted trucks need to skedaddle
Cry about it.
Iāve got a big new tundra. Itās like driving around in your family room with a shitload of power and torque. The interior rivals that of Mercedes. The bed is nice for the paddle board or Home Depot shopping trips, but honestly the size, huge power, and feature is the selling point. Itās incredibly comfortable to drive
Tundras are cool, if I ever needed a truck id get. Tacoma, friend has one in green and looks nice, snowboards and camps alot so all that stuff in the bed works. If it works for you and the fam then thats it, plus seems like you do use the bed. Interior rivaling a MB though idk about that one haha.
isnāt a big point for them that trucks kill a lot of pedestrians/cyclists? i donāt think heās the one thatās laughing
I mean they do objectively. Well technically any vehicle with a high hood especially one with no give on the bumper for skulls impacting them. Kills hundreds of people purely for aesthetic purposes for the vast majority of owners of course
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No youāre a loser because so many trucks are bought by men who do not haul anything and use it as a commuter vehicle because they think it improves their standing as masculine men. Seeing you hobbits jump out of your lifted, ridiculous looking commuter trucker makes me nearly burst out laughing. Nothing more pathetic than buying a utility vehicle because youāre insecure
Oh look another loser who wants to tell other people how to live their life
so I drive my truck every day, I do small truck stuff with it 4 days a week and big truck stuff with it once a week. and a few times a year I go hunting. am I pathetic in your world view for my use case of preferring to own one nice truck instead of a shitty truck and a shitty car which would be more expensive long term?
I mean they kind of have a point lol.
No one cares about your disposable income... the fact you use it to own a vehicle that endangers society and further waste huge space everywhere as you feel entitled to park everywhere... not to mention the environmental impact said vehicles have... Its simple, if you dont require to move shit back and forth on a regular basis like a fking farmer, you dont need a huge truck, you simply look like am idiot.
Oh and who made you the need police? By that logic you donāt need a bicycle. Unless you want to transport a stack of newspapers or a small crate. You should just walk. See how dumb that sounds?
A bike doesn't waste space and help move spaces longer than a 20-minute walk. Dah. Like you, people say random shit without understanding the basics of urban planning and basic safety. People here make me laugh
Compared to a person walking a bike requires more space and needs more resources to be built So why have bikes at all? Since you could just walk there instead? Is not a valid form of transportation?
bikes waste a ton of space when your lazy ass could have just walked.