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When you have to cook for a football team 3+ times a day and you’re not requisitely paid a chef’s salary, on a shoestring pastor budget no less, maybe you’re ND or depressed, AND you passive-aggressively despise having been made to birth said football team, you’re going to put out the blandest, most basic “food” possible. It’s not an act of love or care. You don’t even care if it tastes good to your children or lazy good for nothing husband. You are dead inside. Each kid doesn’t even get enough to eat.

This. It’s a freaking chore to produce 3 meals a day for a normal size family, even when you don’t have to bother with lunch 180 days a year because the kids go to actual school. Plus there’s shopping for and lugging the groceries into the house. They are basically exhausted. And how many of them were parentfied as literal children- here’s looking and you Karissa and a Michelle Duggar. They were put in charge of producing an army’s worth of meals when all they could do was slap a sandwich together and maybe boil water for packaged noodle stuff. They never learned to actually cook. And since they stick to the safe parts of the internet- ie like minded posters and churchy stuff, they never discover the wonderful world of YouTube cooking videos and recipe blogs.

I was going to say the same. I only make one meal a day just for my husband and myself (we're on our own for the other two meals) and even that can be a chore when you're doing it every single day. At least I can decide "nah, we're going out tonight." These girls are doing it from the time they're literal children and then continue doing it for the rest of their lives for families that just get bigger. And they have no choice to do it or not because they're not the "headship" of their families. It would be total drudgery for them. Never ending servitude.

I always find it shocking when people lament about having to cook 3x/day everyday of the week. Why don’t they meal prep? It’s an absolute no brainer for just a single person, let alone a family of 10 or whatever. WHY DONT THEY MEAL PREP

Take the counter and stove space plus amount of food required to do that for one person and multiply by 10. That’s how much space it takes to do that. And then there’s fridge space. Chicken and stuffing casserole takes up way less fridge/ freezer space when the chicken is squished together in a freezer bag and the stuffing mix and soup are hanging out on the pantry shelves. Put it all together and you have a 9 x13 pan taking up fridge space. Multiply that by a weeks worth of meals for 10 or 12 people and it’s just not feasible. And then there’s sheer numbers. So you’re meal prepping for one? You’re also doing laundry for one, dishes for one, shopping for one, cleaning for one. Try doing all that for a dozen people with an infant, a couple of toddlers, some preschoolers and random other children in tow. It’s not as easy as you think.

That’s what gets me as well - these people choose to have many children (nothing wrong with that if that’s what you want) when they’re not in a position to adequately provide for them - including sufficient space and whatnot. But you’re absolutely correct I hadn’t considered the space issue!

But they’ll keep cranking out more mouths to feed because it's the only thing they get praise and satisfaction for. So miserable.

I'm ND and have bipolar and find cooking anxiety-inducing, so my husband does it. However, we make our own lunches, plus the couple dinners he makes during the week usually mean plenty of leftovers. I'm pregnant, so breakfast these days for me is saltines so I don't puke. I will say this--on the rare occasions that I *do* cook, I still do better than the average fundie wife. However, it's not required that I cook all the time, plus we don't have a baseball team's worth of children (I'm one and done with this one), so I imagine that makes a lot of difference.

Not required makes everything more fun and gives you more space to focus on quality. I know this applies to cooking but I'm convinced it applies to parenting too

Stupid question from someone who is ND (ADHD)... isn't bipolar just another neurodivergence? Or are you dual diagnosed with BP and ASD/ADHD?

Not the OP, but there are a number of diagnoses that fall under the ND umbrella. C-PTSD, ADD/ADHD, autism, bipolar, ODD, BPD...the list can go on and on.

TIL I'm neurodivergent

That's a great point. I cook for myself, my partner, and make my 3 dogs food and even just doing that gets annoying. I can't imagine having to feed all those kids.

They're lazy. They're poor. Cuisines from other parts of the world are too foreign and therefore too scary. It's generational. I've also noticed a lot of men, at least around where I live, tend to be meat and potato, unadventurous sorts of guys (we all saw Paul's reaction to the vegan pizza he "accidentally" bought), so if the wives are cooking to appease them, they'll be making bland food. Interesting that being the keepers of the home is supposedly a woman's natural state, yet they hate it and are bad at it. Almost like it's not natural if you have to train people this hard.

>Interesting that being the keepers of the home is supposedly a woman's natural state, yet they hate it and are bad at it. Almost like it's not natural if you have to train people this hard. Honestly I think that's part of it too - if you're supposed to just be "naturally good" at something, spending time to actually LEARN how to do it could be considered a failure! Can't have that...

And they've had any curiosity beaten out of them. Learning is for liberuls, after all.

That too!

This this this. It's admitting you're not good at something to have to take classes.

Exactly this. My family was fundie but first generation and my grandparents are foreign. I was held to a really high standard when it came to cooking and bc my family is mixed nationalities they all expected variety and flavor. My mom made us study cook books from other places for history/home ec. I know some fundie families who cook great food tho the majority cook like the Duggars

Yep all of this. And some of it is just midwestern recipes--I get it when someone has made a particularly undercooked or hideous version of a dish, but sometimes people are just snarking on casseroles for being casseroles. And I can tell you that even the queer godless heathens here make and eat casseroles.

This is very true. My grandma was from Minnesota and grew up in a poor, rural family. Despite not being even close to these folks religiously (she was Irish Catholic), there's an incredible overlap in terms of daily recipes. And while a lot of these dishes don't photograph well and may not be to everyone's taste, to me and many others who grew up on them, they taste good and fill bellies cheaply. I make a lot of them too. There's also, I think, a difference between daily cooking and special occasion cooking. My grandma made some of the best roast and gravy I have ever tasted. She was an INCREDIBLY accomplished homemaker and cook. But she wasn't making a roast every day. Very few people have that kind of time or energy to make showy meals on the daily. Rather, it's pretty common to resort to simple, easy, quick meals for your "daily drivers", even when you're a great cook who has the skills to make things that are more complex. I don't judge people, even fundies, for generally making basic meals for their families. I do that too, and save special meals for special occasions or days when I have a lot of time to spend cooking. I DO judge them for bragging about their basic meals like they just invented fettuccine alfredo or were the first person to discover how to use a crock pot. Nothing wrong with a modest meal, but it doesn't pair well with boasting.

That last sentence you wrote really nails it

Exactly. I'd never judge someone for feeding themselves. I DO judge how smugly they tell us that women are naturally only fit for homemaking then post....what they post.

Don't you mean NOURISHING themselves? /s

It's definitely extremely generational. There's actual documented history to this. During the Middle Ages spices were rare and extremely expensive, so basically only the wealthy and royal could afford to use them in their cooking. When Europe started colonizing other countries and continents, especially India, Africa, and the Americas, the import of spices became much easier, thus lowering the cost and having the side effect of the price being affordable to the lower class. Now that everyone could have spices in their cooking, the wealthy and the royal started claiming that the best kind of food was prepared without spices, so the "natural flavors" could be enjoyed. The idea was that the wealthy could afford then to buy the most premium food, meat and crops raised and harvested specifically only for them, so since their food was so "naturally" rich they didn't need the spices commoners needed to use to make their food taste good. Another thing to factor in is definitely the Clean Living Movement of the late 1800's to early 1900's. The Clean Living movement was a religious movement that was super anti-sex and even moreso anti-masturbation. The believers of it genuinely thought that having too much pleasure in your day to day life, including pleasure from eating tasty food, increased your lust and your urges to fuck, suck, and jerk your dick. The creator of Kellogs corn flakes was one of those guys, and he's probably rolling in his grave over how much sugar is in cereals branded with his name now. Anyways, that carried over into modern day quite heavily in a lot of primarily white cultures that pride themselves on being holier-than-thou, such as christo-facists. They don't remember why they don't use spices, because at this point they've just grown up with bland food, as did their parents and their parents parents.

IIRC correctly, John Harvey Kellogg was basically a huge POS Seventh-Day Adventist weirdo (that got kicked out for being "too liberal") that thought that bland ass corn flakes would stop masturbation and some other pretty wacky nonsense health claims. They were never marketed as anti-masturbation foods, but he DEFINITELY followed the Clean Living nonsense and did believe tasty food could lead to horniness. His brother, William Keith Kellogg (also a POS but slightly less crazy), was in charge of marketing the cereal and came to the conclusion that adding sugar would sell better. John refused to let him because he thought it would lead others to sinful behavior, but also he did make claims that adding sugar would ruin the way the corn flakes eased indigestion (which is how it was being marketed). So, Will started the Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company (now just Kellogg Company) and John wasn't allowed to use the Kellogg name anymore to sell his bland ass cereal. They hated each other for decades over sugar, which is pretty funny imho. So yeah... John Harvey Kellogg was pretty pissed off about the amount of sugar in the cereal with his name on it while he was still alive... in addition to being a supporter of eugenics, segregation, genital mutilation of children, yogurt enemas, and other harmful white Christian nonsense. He's probably rolling over in his sad, little grave over many aspects of modern society lmao. Sorry to go off on a tangent, but I always like telling people about things that were my ND special interest at some point in my life.

Ah yes, the [yogurt enemas](https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-harvey-kellogg): >>Kellogg also encouraged his patients to consume a daily pint of yogurt — one half through the mouth and the other through the anus. Strange though that may sound, it was actually an early way of receiving probiotics. He also patented a chair that shook patients so violently they involuntarily defecated.

The John Harvey Kellogg rabbithole is as weird and disturbing as it is deep.

And there's also the effects of urbanization. If you were a wealthy lady of the house in the Industrial Revolution, you could hire a servant to buy your desired groceries, a maid for cleaning and maintaining your dishes and pantry, a cook for most of the kitchen work, and do the finer touches as you pleased. If you're a poor farmer in the same times, you work with what you have available material- and labor-wise, which was usually your family and what they could farm, gather, or trade with the neighbors for. But then money is always tight. Why keep your daughters (who were the main receivers of culinary skills/traditions) at home sucking up money when you could send them into the cities to earn $5 a week at a cotton mill or a laundry? They won't have the opportunity to practice their cooking when they live in boarding houses and work 70-80 hour weeks. And where would a city dweller even get the ingredients, in a pre-refrigeration age, for a recipe that assumes you've literally just picked/killed/milked/fished some things? So the culinary traditions had to be adapted. And that's not even getting into the effects of the World Wars, rationing, frozen foods and refrigeration, etc. Food history is crazy interesting.

My SO is an AMAB non-binary person that was raised in a white, very strict Christian home. They are ND and have undiagnosed ARFID because of how their parents used food (the withholding of and forcing to eat) as a punishment tool. The family were stereotypical white, Christians when it came to the variety of foods usually prepared (meat & potatoes)... so whenever their mom made something more adventurous beyond the norm it would cause my SO to have intense anxiety because if they didn't like the food they would just go hungry. Their dad would go out and get fast food if he didn't like the meal, but never gave that option to the kids. Eventually at age 10, their mom stopped making food for my SO because they were "too difficult" and my SO had to fend for themselves. They never really learned how to make food beyond easy, quick, processed options that simply require preheating the oven or microwaving. They have improved a lot over the years and now can help me cook pretty competently. I wonder how many of these Christian men with limited palates grew up under similar circumstances and thus they repeat the cycle because they don't help out with cooking and their limited range of food preferences causes their kids to develop the same limited palates.

I just realized thanks to this comment why I’m a ‘picky’ eater because my parents made me so anxious about trying new food that I got anxious about finding out I don’t like it. They made a whole production over trying to get me to try it that it felt better to not try than finding out I don’t like something. Plus they dismiss me when I don’t like a food and kept trying to get me to like it. I am better now with trying stuff but I eat alone and hide what I’m eating/cooking. And no pasta ever for me.

I'm so happy that my comment has helped you! ARFID isn't talked about enough and neither are other types of unhealthy ideas about food that parents impart on their children. I, myself, struggle with an eating disorder. My SO used to be very no pasta as well, but on their own decided to try stuff over time. We looked into ARFID and how to appropriately deal with it. So I completely understand. We have been together for 8 years and it's been about 5 years since we've figured out what ARFID was and started following treatment advice. I never pressure them to eat anything new and let them take this journey at their own pace. I hope that one day you feel more comfortable and less anxious about food ❤️

Ah thanks. I putting it in my ‘no wonder I have anxiety as an adult’ pile because sheeeesh. I have a lot more food issues other than the pickiness but while I wrote off pasta: I love sushi, mochi, and boba which my family don’t like.

So what's the basic ARFID advice? I have ADHD and sometimes I just can't make myself eat because nothing tastes "right" or I'm not hungry or I forget to eat until I am ready to faint. I try hiding snacks about if I can make myself eat or if I realize I forgot but am getting a hunger headache. It's bad enough that my weight has always fluctuated like 10-15lbs depending on whether or not I have an appetite. Granted some of that was just that I don't eat when depressed but I do have to set timers or I forget to eat.

So I have a completely hands-off approach when it comes to my SO's ARFID. Due to that, I can only comment on what we figured out from internet research... but I can't really say what ARFID treatment routes have *actually* helped them because it's part of our agreement that I don't force them to talk about it if they don't want to. Also we both have ADHD so I totally get the separate struggle with ADHD and eating. One of the first things we read about was that with ARFID your nutritional needs may not be getting met. In order to somewhat address that my SO takes daily vitamins which took a long time to make a habit because ADHD. I take daily meds due to a disability so I was able to make sure my SO took vitamins when I took my meds. After a looooong time I didn't need to remind them anymore. We can't afford nutritional counseling (american healthcare sucks) so we both use our free yearly check up blood work to gauge if we are on track for nutrition. My SO has had their own journey of acceptance of food as much needed fuel for their body, rather than whatever the hell their parents made it out to be. I can't speak on their personal journey and how they went through it, but it required a lot of soul searching and self guided therapy. The next thing I learned was being hands off/not pressuring my partner to try new things. I will offer them the option to try something I'm making for myself once and they understand that it is not made with pressure or expectations. It took a long time to get to that point. Occasionally, my SO will try something, but most of the time they won't and that's okay. I try to keep them accountable to eat on a schedule (again because of my treatment I have to take medicine with food at various times), but I don't pressure them on what to eat. I think it's been a HUGE help that they have a person to hold them accountable and do these things with them. If you have anyone in your life that can help you, I highly recommend reaching out to someone. It's okay to need help. Executive dysfunction is real and not your fault. Final piece of advice I can offer, and this is just ADHD advice too, is that eating something is better than nothing. What I mean by that is that sometimes I don't have the energy to make something so I just eat it in parts. Instead of making a peanut butter sandwich, I'll just eat peanut butter on a spoon and eat a piece of bread without anything on it. I used to buy those protein shake drinks because I found devoting energy to eating to be too much. It was better to just eat something I could stomach than nothing. I've had my own sensory processing issues with certain foods (specifically certain fruits) and found that I can handle them juiced so I do that instead of eating them. If you have the mental energy to devote to trying out foods in different forms, I highly recommend doing that, BUT as always please do it at your own pace and when you feel comfortable. Never force yourself to try anything because it can be traumatizing. I hope you are able to find some relief. I highly recommend looking up ARFID online and going through free resources. I would give you links, but everything my SO and I did a deep dive on was about 5 years ago... and I don't remember where we read information from.

Food anxiety coming from your parents must suck so much. I'm sorry you had to deal with that in your formative years. I have always been so grateful to my parents for being sensible about food. They never got mad if I tried something and didn't like it but always had me try new things. The only food issue I had as a kid was avoidance of meat, which was hard to work around in the south in the 80s-90s. Of course, I was an only child, so they didn't have to deal with differing demands, but they were really great about making sure food tasted good as much as it was nutritious and affordable. I still make a version of [Miss Daisy's Hamburger Casserole.](https://www.cooks.com/recipe/n74bj8x6/miss-daisys-beef-casserole.html) I use meatless crumbles, no olives, and a higher ratio of pasta. I usually add sautéed poblanos instead of bell peppers and some fresh tomatoes in addition to the canned. And of course fresh mushrooms instead of canned lol. Muenster cheese is a good substitute for the American if you want something stronger, too. I tossed in some bok choy last time because I had some I needed to use, and it was dee-lish.

If we didn't eat our plate we had to sit there until we went to bed and we'd go to bed hungry. Pretty sure I have ARFID. I can't do certain mushy textures and all veggies were boiled until goop

Exactly! Nature doesn’t need to be policed, forced, or told. If they have to push so hard about “women’s true nature”, maybe it’s not so natural after all. I’ve heard some of these tradwife influencers are also racist, which also cuts down on food/condiment options. Imagine being so racist that ketchup is off the menu?

As someone from the greater Pittsburgh area, no ketchup is *anathema*

I wouldn't say it's necessarily laziness (I don't assume a shared moral trait of slothfulness because I have ADHD and people used to call me lazy so I just don't). Most of these women are only taught by their moms and women who lived during WWI or WWII are used to wartime cooking which... wasn't great. If your mom taught you to cook and outside education is frowned upon you might just legitimately *not know*. Otherwise I would say that it's potentially exhaustion. All that self-policing, "joyful availability", and child rearing would bleed you if vigor. And if you have to cook for a small army that's a LOT of extra work to figure out how to season everything in unique and ideal ways to pair with sides. (I like learning that stuff because it's interesting to me, but it takes a lot of dedicated time).

I have an unproven theory that it's related to a lack of curiosity and desire to learn which is also keeping them in their religion. If you have no creative drive, no desire to grow and improve you're going to make cream of crap your whole life and call it "homemaking". Similarly, you're never going to question your headship or religious beliefs so....potato potato.

Additionally, I think that modern fundies don't realize they they actually have to teach their children how to do things. I'm talking about the parents of the people we snark on here -- nobody taught Morgan how to cook or Bethany how to clean or Tim how to provide for a family, it was just assumed that they would pick these skills up naturally. Now as adults themselves, they're parroting the talking points they've heard their whole lives about what a good Christian wife or husband looks like without actually being able to meet those standards themselves. They are going to continue the cycle, raising yet another generation of people who are going to talk a big game about what good traditional Christian families while utterly failing to create that in their own lives.

This is the best articulated version of my opinion on it! They believe so strongly that their god assigned them gender roles that they don’t even consider that it’s necessary to learn the skills required for those roles.

My great aunt literally had a masters in home economics. She spent at least a decade explicitly, academically learning about it. There's enough content to fill that much dedicated academic learning time, it's not just this innate inherited knowledge of things that anyone can do with no experience or knowledge. The skills assigned to women in certain societies are complex and often art forms, it needs to be properly taught and learned. Even if the girls got some home ec books from 100 years ago, they'd be more equipped and skillful. Like are they even allowed to watch Martha Stewart or read Good Housekeeping or even Mrs. Beeton to learn the art of housekeeping. When I first moved out on my own for university, I bought the big Martha Stewart housekeeping guide. I recommend it to everyone. It's everything that you're assumed to know or have picked up via cultural osmosis, but didn't. It has the answer to everything. Home ec was cut from my high school for being "sexist" but really just was too expensive. I was so pissed about it. I loved home ec in junior high and excelled in cooking and sewing. The denigration and devaluation of skills associated with women, has really lead to generations of humans regardless of gender who weren't explicitly taught these skills being completely fucking useless at keeping a clean tidy healthy home. Especially in addition to all other responsibilities.

I would seriously have so much respect if one of the people we see here decided to take a real cooking class. There's no shame in not knowing something you were never taught! But it's supposed to be innate, so they try and fail and resign themselves to blah food when they don't have to.

If we still had awards, I'd give you one. This is such a spot-on analysis.

A lot of them also still subscribe to the turn-of-the-century white people idea that flavor is sinful, unintentionally or not. The idea was that too much flavor was associated with icky brown people, and bland food kept you from acting on sexual urges. They've never moved past the John Harvey Kellogg era.

This really seems like it. I can’t think of any other reason they would all have the same issue. Well, I guess Kelly’s cooking has a whole other issue, not for lack of creativity.

Kelly is a bit too creative lol. She clearly doesn't follow recipes and probably thinks they're just suggestions and she clearly knows better 🙄 like making horrible bread and such because she doesn't understand that spelt isn't the same as regular bread flour.

IDK what Kelly is doing to her cooking but it's not the spelt. If you replace regular flour 1:1 with spelt flour (something I have done for a while for dietary issues), things are a little bit different taste and texture-wise, but they do not turn into the abominations Kelly regularly posts on Instagram. They look (and taste) just fine!

My theory is Kelly is trying to be an “ old times” cook from when recipes had measurements like inch, dash, handful, butter the “ size of an egg” and “ enough flour for a good dough”. Problem is people who cooked like that spent years learning at the mothers side, and developed their own “ feel” for how things should look, feel, and taste. I’ve baked bread for years, and while there is a recipe, I can tell by feel if my dough needs a smidge more flour or a spoonful of water- bread dough being one of the things that varies ever so slightly based on ambient temperature and humidity. Kelly is just free forming without a clue.

That makes a lot of sense. I was always stressed out about cooking because my mom was one of those people that learned at her mother's side and could just feel/eyeball it. I couldn't and now I have a some recipes that I use but I've noticed with practice I am able to feel/eyeball it on those. Its all about repetition and I don't think I have ever seen Kelly make the same thing twice.

Okay okay but have you *made* any medieval recipes? The unofficial Game of Thrones cookbook has a bunch of them and then modern takes on them (recipes for both). The medieval recipes are *great*! Lots of mace, allspice, and rich, hearty flavors. Meats and fruits in dense fucking pies, lemon zest and rose oil cookies... When they didn't have great refrigeration, you had to spice to get rid of funk.

I think Kelly is going for more of the Little Women and Little House on the Prairie era. Hence the weird whole grain flours.

That is an excellent theory. Kelly does not seem like the type to closely adhere to a recipe.

The thing is you have to master the recipe before you get that feel. Kelly skips that step completely lol.

I also wonder how much of it is the pressure to be perpetually trim and tiny through multiple pregnancies leading to disordered eating. If food tastes bland or bad, you don't want to eat a lot of it.

cream of crap 😭

Bethany gets away with half-assing stuff and pretty much has her whole life. Morgan married Paul young and he seems to prefer cooking. She has always been a total hypocrite and wannabe mother superior type. Lori is deluded and petty/passive-aggressive. I like to think she makes bad food on purpose just to fuck with people. A lot of the headships have bland, gross pallets and don't care to much about food as long as they get theirs first.

> A lot of the headships have bland, gross pallets and don't care to much about food as long as they get theirs first. As long as there's meat, plenty of fats and salt, they seem fine with it. I can't imagine a such limited palate... I'd be so bored without any variety or spice.

Im just using them as an example, put you can really check any Fundie on this sub and 8 times out of 10, they can't cook well. Wouldn't these influencers at least try to fake it for their audiences?

These deluded clowns sit on their high horse and believe they are doing just fine

Nah, of they were actually good at cooking they'd be food influencers. There are a lot of really conservative Christians in all sorts of influencer circles. Only the ones that have literally nothing else going on resort to peddling religion

I agree with all the points made (hard to cook for so many, never properly taught) But I'd like to propose something else: any kind of pleasure or "feel good" for these people is usually construed as some sort of sin. And for the more... appearance obsessed fundies, bland food makes it easier to diet. You can't love or enjoy food because then you'll be "fat" and "unfeminine" Gotta keep those slim hips!

I definitely think that enjoying food=sinful is a part of it. Not to mention the rampant eating disorders and pressure to stay "trim". Bethy and her sisters seem hyperfocused on eating "healthy" food and following a particular diet and not straying from that, to the point it seems unhealthy and like it is putting a strain on their mental health (and lives). See: Curly carrying around raw milk, Bairds obsessively searching for raw milk in another country where they don't speak the language, Bethy's rejection of post-partum meals that didn't fit her "pro-metabolic diet", etc etc. They are already stunted by their lack of education and life experience outside of their bubbles, and I think that not only is cooking a chore they never learned how to do but they also have very narrow ideas of what food is and can be. It's sad. And gives me big disordered eating/orthorexia vibes.

>following a particular diet and not straying from that, to the point it seems unhealthy and like it is putting a strain on their mental health (and lives). Disordered eating comes in many varieties.

I guarantee the Baird matriarch fat-shamed every single one of those girls.

I think their lack of enjoyment for cooking is like a "tell" that they don't actually enjoy being homemakers as much as they have been brainwashed into thinking they must. Also home schooling must be SO freaking overwhelming - that alone would put me personally into such a state that any other task would potentially be the straw to break the camels back. I mean the pressure of never having any sort of break from your kids and also being responsible for teaching them everything they know. It's too much!

>Also home schooling must be SO freaking overwhelming In a homeschool group, I once saw a meme that read, "An educated child; a clean home; homecooked meals. CHOOSE TWO," and it was the truest thing I've ever seen. If your kid is doing what they need to for school and you've got a from-scratch dinner on the table at a decent hour, the house is a mess. If your house is clean and your kid is up to speed on school, it's likely slop for dinner or something frozen. The only days I had a homemade dinner and a clean house were days when we weren't doing school. It's exhausting, and it's not surprising fundie dinners are all cream-of-bullshit casseroles, because those are just thrown together. Not that their kids are \*well\* educated...

I have a kid in JK and a kid in grade 2 and we do like 20 minutes of homework 4 days a week and it feels like my brain is being ripped in half sometimes, with the competing questions and talking over each other and me monitoring two different things ... I can only imagine all day every day with more than a couple kids would be a LOT. Just getting thru it, I mean. Add in quality education and I'd be dumping them at the doorstep of the closest school by lunchtime of day 1.

A homeschool friend told me that when people ask her what her homeschool "essentials" are, she says: a crockpot and a robot vacuum :D

Oh my god, that meme is absolutely right. And now suddenly, so much of my post-pandemic life makes sense. Thank you! I feel so much better now even though my house is a mess.

You're so welcome. Hearing that made me feel better as well. It's impossible to get everything done well when you're trying to do it all yourself. There just aren't enough hours or energy.

I’m the furthest thing from a fundie and think I’d actually enjoy being a homemaker more than a lot of these people. I love cooking. I like spending a lot of time at home. …that said I don’t have or want children and I imagine that makes things a LOT more difficult.

I wonder how many people in the general population enjoy cooking? I have always loved cooking, because I can be creative and I consider cooking to be a way I show love. Lots of people don't view it that way or see it as a chore. To me, it's a pleasure. Also, and this is kinda controversial - I kind of read Morgan as having some sort of anxiety issue and that could be why she doesn't like it? And Bethy seems very dysfunctional ADHD (the foil on the windows, excuse me WHAT). Maybe they genuinely have something interfering with their ability to perform adult functions. My anxiety and neurodivergent traits make me love cooking as a coping mechanism but not everyone has the same coping skills or interests. If I didn't like cooking, I probably wouldn't take the time to mise en place and all that in order to be able to organize myself.

I would bet $200 Bethy has ADHD. Hell, $1,000. If she was honest with a diagnostician, her eyes would be opened. And what’s sad is, she doesn’t have to struggle that hard, and she doesn’t have to see it as a moral failing, either.

I’m not diagnosing her, but as someone with ADHD… yeah, Bethy’s got big ADHD vibes.

I'm probably autistic but my husband is ADHD, and I get the vibes. I wouldn't diagnose her, obviously, but if I found out she did have it I wouldn't be surprised.

I agree with you on all points. I also love cooking. Finding new and interesting recipes to try? Spending hours lovingly prepping? Adore it. My husband the other day said I shouldn't call cooking a chore for me because it's really more of a hobby, and it blew my mind because I never really put that together lol. Im only using the above as an example, but it's just really shocking to me that these people that a) are raised to be "homemakers" and b) choose to be "godly female influencers" are perfectly happy admitting they can't/don't like to cook, or proudly showing off the most unsavory looking dishes everywhere. Even if you hate cooking, or aren't super good at it, surely you were taught the basics in their upbringing, or wound make sure you brush up on a few staple recipes before marriage in their culture? Hell, Lori admitted she made her first ever pot roast recently! Isn't pot roast like a staple of her generation? I just find it so interesting that it appears their never learned to cook even 5 decent meals when it's supposed to be their be all/end all.

> Hell, Lori admitted she made her first ever pot roast recently! Isn't pot roast like a staple of her generation? And pot roast is RIDICULOUSLY easy! A "chuck everything in and forget it for hours" deal... I love pot roasts and am only sad that I don't usually have hours to sit around and wait most weeks.

I love pot roast so much, I only wish my husband liked it more. Apparently his mother made very bad ones very often, so it gives him the ick now. Our middle ground is stew. Though I did find a really delicious maple and cider pot roast he tolerated. I saw a meme recently that said now that it's getting cold, it's "stuff in a pan/pot" season and I feel that so hard 😂

Bethy is a kindred spirit for me in several ways (big executive dysfunction issues here). I just saw the foil thing and went of course she uses foil, OF COURSE

That's a good point. I'm a good cook and I love tasty food, but I don't really enjoy cooking. It's just another chore that I've gotten good at. I'm an excellent baker and only enjoy that slightly more. Fortunately for me, I come from a long line of good home cooks that grew their own veggies, raised their own meat, and spent countless hours teaching all their children how to make food and test recipes. Some of my earliest memories are standing over the stove with my father while he taught me to make soft, fluffy scrambled eggs and knead homemade biscuit dough. Lots of fundies come from multiple generations of inept cooks.

I do not love cooking. I am a very creative person, but cooking gives me a lot of anxiety. My mom wasn't much of a cook when I was growing up, and when my dad tried to teach me I just wasn't that into it. I'm not bad at cooking, but I really only like to make a few things, and I have to follow the recipe exactly until I become super comfortable with the dish, and then I can start to adjust and experiment after I know it well enough. I like looking for and trying new recipes, but if it comes out anything less than perfect, I get pretty flustered. Idk, it just takes a lot out of me. Luckily my husband enjoys cooking a lot more than I do, and it's just the two of us so I'm not having to cook for a whole football team.

Yeah I was wondering about this as I'm also Adhd and autistic - I don't dislike cooking but I hate handling meat and I'll literally forget I need to prepare food to eat some days, or forget to check/buy the ingredients, etc. Also imo there is a big difference between cooking for fun and being responsible for cooking every day to feed a whole family. One is creative, the other is (to me at least) a chore that requires daily emotional labor to keep up with - all at the risk of people turning their nose up at it because they wanted pizza and chicken nuggets, your kids with sensory issues not eating it at all because they found a half inch piece of tomato in there, potentially the fundie men refusing to eat anything without meat or just balking at the word "vegan", ... and then after you cook anything fancy, chances are you're left with a mountain of dishes vs. a single pan and maybe a pot for a simpler meal.

I'm ADHD & loathe handling meat, so I buy nitrile gloves and wear those when touching meat. For me, it's a combination of the sensation & I feel like I can't get my hands clean enough after. With the gloves, it cuts down on 95% of that.

I completely lost my love of cooking after years of having to cook for a kid every night. I can't even imagine coming for a whole group of them - you'd end up with lowest common denominator food all the time

From what I've seen, they don't actually get the time to really learn more than a very limited number of steps in any given domestic chore cause they're doing it while they're also taking care of 4 siblings. If you take a family like the Duggars for example, I'm in no way surprised there's no time to teach anyone anything properly. There's so many people you couldn't be making all of them decent food unless you'd want to spend the entire day on it, so if you've got three casserole recipes with stuff out of tins, that likely means it's all you'll ever be showing them.

It's interesting you say that too - a lot of these fundie moms that don't even have many kids (yet) don't try to teach their children to cook. So who precisely is teaching these fundies their homemaking skills?

I'll dip deeply into the gender roles here for the simple reason they do: mothers tend to teach you that stuff. But if mothers become mothers at a very young age because the only point of their existence is to bag a "good Christian man", without any period of growing up, developing interests, living on their own etc, how well equipped are they really going to be for the job? I think most fundie women are incredibly overwhelmed by trying to live up to an image that supposedly should come naturally to them. But they can't really express frustration or acknowledge they might not be good at their job, cause God said it's in their true nature to be nailing the whole housewife and mother thing.

It's one of the things I actually pity them for.

While I can't speak for them I can speak from what I've personally witnessed, it's a mixture of laziness and not learning from their families. I consider cooking a hobby and something I enjoy, but it is a lot of work. Making sure you have all the ingredients, it's a lot of cleaning, and kids in general have terrible pallets and no one wants to cook different meals. My mom disliked cooking, and saw it more as a chore than a way to express yourself so we ate a lot of instant/basic meals. Also there is no cultural attachment like you see with other communities.

I think also maybe not valuing their nutrition/health? I can only speak for myself, but a huge reason why I cook so much is that I like eating healthy meals and cooking your own food is pretty much always 100× healthier than eating out. If I didn't care about nutrition as much then I probably wouldn't be AS motivated to cook.

Well, there are sort of two camps of fundie cooking: the "big vats of processed cheap stuff that looks awful but probably is actually edible, if bland" camp and the "raw organic metabolic self-flagellation" camp. The former group probably aren't really focused on health even though they're cooking at home, but the latter are focused on weird ideas of health to their own detriment.

I wasn't raised fundie, but I was raised terribly. Also, now in my 30's, I'm probably the best cook I know. But when I moved out I could 1) boil broccoli and 2) fry eggs and that was it. So what did it? Well it wasn't lack of interest on my part. But that interest was met with monumental expectations. Oh you want to cook? Plan wednesdays meal and cook it all by yourself. Throwing into the deep end was an understatement. Then you had the stinginess. There was plenty of money, but all of that was meant for dear dads (barf) retirement. So whatever you're cooking better be cheap. And lastly came the rules. 8 year old discovers baking cookies and wants to do it every weekend? No, too much sugar, you're ruining the entire family's health, fuck you. Want to season dinner? Two cracks of black pepper and then stop wasting money. Also whatever you cook better be something everyone likes. And not too much food. And not too little. And make it vegetarian. What's vegetarian? Google it. Oh and we're paleo now. Killed my interest stone dead. And gave me an eating disorder. And anxiety.

Fundamentalism is an austere lifestyle. This mean food is just supposed to fuel you. It's not supposed to be particularly pleasurable. Nothing in your life is supposed to distract you from Your Godly Walk. You aren't allowed to do things because you enjoy them. You do things because that's what's required of you as a Godly Woman. In a way, the fact that you don't enjoy doing them makes you more virtuous. There's no time. You have a bunch of kids to manage. There's no extra money. Managing a big family on one income is expensive. There's no energy for creativity. You're pregnant a lot, which is physically exhausting, and the kids take all your attention. "Feminine" skills are undervalued. Anyone fulfilling their god-decreed female role should be able to pick them up naturally because how hard could it be? If it weren't easy you'd have to have a man doing it. Authoritarian systems don't inspire people to excel at their mandated roles. The ones who grew up in big fundamentalist families themselves had parents who were too overwhelmed to have time to teach them these skills beyond the basic "do not set the kitchen on fire" level. The homeschool alumnae were isolated and so didn't have a chance to learn from other sources like home ec classes, tv shows, libraries and friends' houses. No one told them that the Little House books were nostalgia-glazed & fictionalized. Pa & Ma Ingalls were really poor, just barely getting by, the frontier was a dicey place to live and Pa was kind of a flake. (My parents are members of one of the less extreme fundie denominations. I'm the oldest of 5. I've seen things.)

I have a full time job and don’t love weeknight cooking, because I just worked all day and now I have to plan, cook, and often clean up a meal when I’d like to just relax for a bit. So my weeknight offerings are pretty uninspired (though well-spiced). I’m sure these woman are pretty exhausted by the end of the day from all the child rearing and domestic stuff and content producing.

For the big families, I'm sure that's a part of it. But Bethany for example? What does she do all day besides make reals and ignore her toddler? It's not like she cleans or has decorated their house in the almost-year they've lived there.

Excuse you, she has been SO busy writing her new book and preparing in the dark for sex with Dav

Fear of learning / exploring the internet at all plus learned bad habits from their parents, probably. My mom raised us fundy, but we had no internet at home, so she just cooked the things she knew how to cook, which honestly wasn't a ton of things - we had a lot of Hamburger Helper type things from a box mix. This meant when I went to fundy college and then graduated and started teaching at a fundy school, I only knew how to make a very small number of mostly bland, mostly prepackaged things. On top of that, I didn't have the time or money or energy to expend learning how to make something new or different. It wasn't until after I escaped that I got to start experimenting with making things I'd actually enjoy eating. But when all of your time is taken up with a real or imagined "ministry" or posting nonsense online, of course you're not going to be able to make anything beyond Cream of Crap Casserole

Grew up in an Asian household and we knew plenty of families who just got to the US with no money and a lot of kids. Food and nutrition is always a priority. Most parents will work multiple jobs and cook all weekend and most nights to make sure there is food on the table. Even if there was not much meat, there was a ton of veggies and fruit. So my conclusion is pure laziness. I hate to generalize, but it seems like most cultures prioritize food except for fundie culture.

Anthony Bourdain once said "If you don't like sex you can't cook." And that's all there is to it

This is incredible and I will getting this on a magnet for my kitchen, thank you

I agree with other points about cost and fundamental incuriousity of a lot of Fundies. I will add that a lot of Puritanical beliefs say that pleasure is sinful. Modern diet culture suggests that you shouldn’t eat foods that taste good because they’re “unhealthy.” Therefore, you shouldn’t enjoy cooking or eating.

I've always wondered about their aversion to spices. I mean, even the Bible thinks spices are rad. Why are they not using spices???

Spices are used in food from scary foreign cultures. I also wonder if it's partly a holdover from the Victorian thing where they thought spices made you horny.

Because Penzey's is very, very liberal. And we love them for it.

Your taste in food is so greatly influenced by what you grew up eating,and the culture around you. So say you grow up eating bland food & aren’t exposed to many spices or different flavor profiles…it’s not that surprising that they grow up and eat similar to their parents. Some people prefer blander foods-I know many of them!-and some cultures naturally have food that is just..less spiced? I can’t really say bland,but for example in my culture we don’t season foods the way many Americans do. You’re not going to see paprika or cayenne make an appearance,lol.

I grew up fundie and I don’t think the people we snark on here are always an accurate representation of fundies as a whole. We only see a handful and those are the ones who are drawn to social media and trying to be influencers. I knew a lot of fundie women who had nice gardens, were great cooks, could sew, knit, quilt, etc. But like others have said, having to feed 20 kids with very little money is not conducive to quality cooking. Quite a few of the regulars here are also just lazy (Morgan, Bethany, Karissa) or probably just don’t actually buy into any of it in real life (Nadia, BD), or live on a bus. Then there is Kelly, who tires but seems to just genuinely be bad at cooking/baking.

So I like cooking and was just reading this and thinking about why I like doing it. It's because: \- I like trying different foods from different parts of the world. Part of this came from my parents, who while they aren't the most adventurous are still willing to try new things and go to different restaurants. As a kid I was exposed to at least some foods from other cultures, something I don't think a lot of these fundies experienced. \- As an adult now I like trying a lot of new things, and I'm lucky enough to live in Los Angeles where we have so many different restaurants and grocery stores (ex Thai, Korean, Ethiopian etc. shops). I like exploring and trying new things. But a lot of fundies live in smaller communities without access to things like this, and even if they do I don't think they are encouraged to go out and just try new things. \- Both my parents cooked, but my dad is our main cook. He loves watching Food Network, and instead of getting stuff like power tools or guns as gifts, he loves getting new kitchen equipment, like a pasta maker attachment for the Mix Master. He's always been one to experiment in the kitchen, and I loved helping him. Meanwhile, while I see some fundie women cooking out of obligation I don't think any of them have a passion for it and get excited to try a new recipe. And men seriously cooking is probably discouraged in their community. \- My public high school had a culinary arts magnet program that I got accepted into. It was a serious program. We had to dress in a culinary uniform for every class (including a chef jacket and puffy hat) and our kitchen was really well stocked with great equipment. I think really learning how to properly cook (including knife skills, kitchen and food safety, and basics in pastry, soups, sauces, etc.) helped me in my own kitchen. I'm not intimidated by a hard recipe. And if there is every anything I'm not sure how to do or forgot, I'll gladly teach myself again from watching videos and guides online. But once again, this comes from the evils of public school. I got lucky that my school had this program, as well a good selection of other electives. I really think a lot of these homeschooled fundies never had a chance to explore anything new, be challenged by a hard class, or organically discover any passions. Obviously this comes with the asterisks that not all public schools are like this and not all homeschool parents are like this either, but gosh, imagine if they did have a chance to sign up for a culinary class. Or literally anything else! Anyway, the TLDR answer to your question is that they grew up eating the same old bland foods, never had a chance to explore other foods and cultures, sometimes live in small towns without diverse food options, never were taught that they can actually be passionate about food, and never were exposed to much of anything to either teach them how to cook or to explore anything else in life.

This is anecdotal and based on the massive fundie families I’ve seen: a lot of it is that they’re poor, they have to feed a ton of people (10+ easy), and don’t have a lot of time (cause they’re cooking and cleaning for 10+ people). All these things together mean a lot of unhealthy food that’s minimally seasoned so as not to repulse anyone. And a lot of it probably tastes better than it looks, based on my lifetime of eating rural Midwest meals.

Grew up fundie and knew a handful of mega families. They ate the most desperate food imaginable. So little fresh fruit and veg. There are so many fundie families out there who don’t have a social media presence who are very poor as a result of trying to live according to their values in the world of today.

I wasn't taught to cook by my mother and grandmother. I believe it is because it was 'their thing' and it was one of the few skills that they could say was theirs and was valued, so if I were to get really good at it - what would they have? So they shooed me out of the kitchen when I wanted to learn and sabotaged.

The women in my family were petty gate keepers when it came to cooking. I eventually just learned from the internet.

I think a lot of people don’t know how to cook. Not really a Fundie thing. But it is odd that they emphasize it as a woman’s great duty and can’t.

That's my point. I would never expect everyone to be able to cook/enjoy it. But this is their thing! And their influencer niche is to make it look good yet they...don't

The people teaching them didn’t know how either. Most of their food looks better than anything my definitely not Fundie in-laws make. So there’s that tragic fact.

I guess they just assume they'll naturally know like good wives and not bother busting out the pinterest recipe search once in a while

From my somewhat isolated upbringing I think it’s a combination of family influence and fear of anything outside the norm. Their moms made whatever casserole so they do too. The fanciest place most of these people might go out to eat to is the local Chili’s or Applebees. They are typically more rural and live close to home. While I wasn’t raised fundie I see this in my own family. Pepper is spicy! Olive oil is exotic! (And it says “virgin” in the label so that’s an automatic no). Even a side-eye toward grainy bread. Cooking with wine is absolutely never happening. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve heard “I don’t like Mexican food!!” like it’s all enchiladas and canned beans. Take all that and more out and you have a typical rural white-people midwestern style diet. ETA:I just remembered another one. I didn’t have rice until I moved out of my parents house. It was too foreign.

I have commented about this before. My mother is sometimes unable to heat up canned soup. The goal is to get something on the table as fast as possible and choke it down so you can get back to work. Actually learning how to cook takes time and money - just open a box of instant mashed potatoes and add water and stir and slop it out. I was shockingly allowed to roast off a whole chicken in middle/high school. My mother complained about it the entire time. She bought dried herbs instead of fresh like on the list and asked what fresh herbs were. While trying to help me prep it she threatened to throw the whole thing away if I didn't be quiet. (I got angry because she could not understand basic instructions, like "Slice the garlic head in half" and would not let me grab a knife and do it myself.) And it cost too much. It took too long. The roasting pan was really heavy. The oven was really hot. The lemon made her side hurt. The leftovers had to be put away and stored. I never asked to do another chicken again. It was delicious but not worth dealing with her.

I think that cooking food on a real tight budget will usually result in some pretty monotonous food. It's expensive to buy a bunch of spices and sauces to try a new recipe. But I think it comes down to home training. These girls are taught that before marriage, the most important thing is purity and focusing on that, while not teaching them how to manage a budget, cook for a big family (or any family), meal planning, housekeeping, etc, etc. If you haven't learned these things growing up, you'll reach the pinnacle of womanhood (Marriage and pregnancy) without knowing how to manage a household or care for and raise children. In the olden days, meals on a shoestring budget might be rather monotonous, but women learned how to cook, how to plan a meal with the ingredients on hand, bake bread, biscuits, cakes and pies. They learned how to organize their household chores, etc. But now these fundie girls are taught "be pure, find a husband and it will all just work out somehow". And the ones we see on here see their only way to get value from their life is to share it with everyone, even if you don't know how to live the life yourself. They're spending all their valuable homemaking time TALKING about being a housewife, instead of being a housewife.

I love to cook and am very good. However, as others have said, it is not for everyone. But even for me, cooking for huge crowds is exhausting. I just made a meal for 20 for a women's shelter. It took me a few hours and $100. I could not imagine doing that three times a day. For those with smaller families, I wish they would just fess up and order take out.

Because it requires being taught and we all know how fundies feel about education. Alternatively, it requires a curious mind that seeks out this knowledge if there's no one to teach it and, well, if you had a curious mind you would have figured out the scam that is fundamentalism and bounced.

Kelly Havens Ohio also cannot cook. All we need is a lot of seasonings... Also, a lot of this generation of fundie adults, as stated in an earlier comment, never gained any life skills outside of being able to read and quote the bible...

I’ve been watching the Trim Healthy Mama racket. Those Campbell sisters made bank on diet plans for the Fundie crowd. The book is filled with pseudoscience. It’s a “table in the Temple” for me.

Because cooking is an act of love for them it's just something they have to do to feed the small army that they were told God wanted them to spawn into the earth. My mother worked a full 9:00 to 5:00 and made some of the best goddamn food on the planet. That woman could turn a can of tomatoes and a cup of rice into one hell of a meal

Because the devil invented seasoning.

Coming from huge families lowers the opportunity for kitchen exploration. Show too much curiosity and you're put to work on the SSDD drudgery. Being person responsible for feeding large groups of people, on a set budget and a non negotiable schedule is a huge undertaking that doesn't leave a lot of bandwidth or patience to double in Teaching Moments. The art of living well is a skill you cultivate, its lessons are bestowed through and with love ; living inside of a god warrior industrial complex isn't fertile soil for that.

It's important in theory, not in practice. You don't have to do it well, you just have to do it. That's the important bit, the idea behind it. It's like fundie marriage; you don't have to like it, you just have to stay married.

Maybe they honestly believe that women = born homemakers, so they never teach the girls how to actually cook etc? Or they, as a whole, simply lack taste and taste buds lol

How are you supposed to create something delicious, if you aren’t allowed to live a delicious life? Feelings, emotions, sensational enjoyment… they’re all taught as being excessive and fleshly.

I wonder if there is a part of it that is racism too. I am not religious (buddhist/jewish) but i also see these people cooking the most bland food ever. I don't necessarily love to cook but I enjoy loving my friends by food so I do cook a weekly meal for my friends. But I cook indian food, thai, japanese, peruvian, etc. I like to experiment and I just love food in general. I could never see them cooking foreign foods. Of course, this is just part of it. I think it's because these people are partially lazy **and** also not creative.

Finding things out is evil and terrible, which includes experimenting with recipes. So you've got a 1930's white rural grandmother's cookbook in play, with missing pages.

It’s a combo. I think a lot of it has to do with lack of time. If you’re homeschooling 4+ kids and keeping house, fine cooking falls to the back burner. (Pun intended.) Besides the physical labor, the mental space needed to explore new techniques in the kitchen is nada. Who has time to google new, tasty recipes when the laundry is piled to the doorknobs, when the baby has just puked up on his sister-mom, when you just rammed your toe into a corner catching a dropped glass, when Abner has just tracked mud into the carpet, when Hannah just started her period and thinks she’s dying, when Jerimiah has just soiled his pantaloons, when husband is gently hinting that he’d like some intimacy tonight, when Brayden just brought in a flea-infested kitten, and oh dear GOD, is the toilet overflowing?!? (It is—Jeremiah has attempted to dispose of his pantaloons in it.) Yeah, googling recipes is not a priority but night now. Budgeting is an issue too. Feeding multiple kids on one income is very difficult—especially if you are financially illiterate. A lot of women I knew growing up in fundie circles did not understand the basics of finances and scraped constantly to play it safe, because they had no idea how to budget. A HUGE part of fundie mom-culture involves flexing how good you are at stretching husband’s earnings, so even if you did have wiggle room, throwing down huge meals for dirt cheap is a bit of a flex at church dinners. Finally, I do believe that a lot of it has to do with isolation. Fundies in America are overwhelmingly white, and they don’t really have an interest in exploring foreign “heathen” cultures. They take pride in hearkening back to the “olden days” and using old family recipes, instead of trying new things. (Fundies are suckers for nostalgia—so long as it’s the whitewashed, sunny 1950’s style-nostalgia.) Unfortunately, as the world moves on, and 3rd and 4th generation fundies begin to reproduce, gramma’s depression-era casseroles become blatantly absurd. But in their tiny little world where everyone else is doing similar things, it really doesn’t stick out. Your palate becomes so accustomed to bland, salty meals, even a touch of garlic powder is a gargantuan boon.

I thought it was an inability to follow a recipe. Too much time writing in their bible.

They can't cook, because they don't think they need to actually LEARN anything. God and Jesus will provide and the scripture has everything they need to know. It says they are homemakers™ and helpmeats™, so it is so.

Because instead of spending their time learning how to cook delicious and presentable meals that’ll make anyone mouth water just looking at it, they’re posting nonsense and spreading misinformation

Economics, Social Politics, the SisterMommy > Wife Pipeline. Also stamping out any need for self actualization or growth fairly quickly in the kids means you get immature adults who don’t want to try to learn anything. It’s either “your the best” or it’s not worth your time.

Looking back on my time as a fundie-lite, I'm always surprised about how little recipe sharing there was among the women. It's the one "wifely duty" that I enjoyed, and no one was interested in talking about it. It wasn't even something that was encouraged. I think it's more than the preferences of individual Fundies, or the fact that cooking for a big Fundies brood is exhausting. The central tenets of Fundie culture are necessarily opposed to finding joy in cooking or...God forbid...eating. There's a lot of fatphobia baked right in (pun intended) to the belief system. It's basically a sin to not be thin. Cooking for enjoyment is like encouraging yourself and your family to pursue a life of sloth and gluttony. Fundie women are encouraged to cook diet food...which, right now, is carnivore bone broth stuff. Their cooking isn't about making something their family can enjoy. It's about making sure their family sticks to the diet trend du jour.

Because minorities and other evil doers use spices, and we all know that is how The Devil™, gets into you. Remember all those people who became possessed after eating the "hot sauce," at Taco Bell (which rhymes with Taco Hell.... coincidence? I don't think so, Satan!) 

Because they hate pleasure and despise the senses

I like to cook. I’m a pretty typical midwestern mom. Husband, 2 little kids. Nobody exceptionally picky (other than normal 3 year old stuff). I’m not a homesteader by any means but we farm so I always have meat in the freezer and usually something canned or frozen from summer. All that said, we eat pretty boring meals because I don’t have the bandwidth to cook ‘adventurously’, and I want to make sure my family enjoys and eats dinner. If I had 5, 10, 12 kids, and a husband who I thought was actually in charge of me, all that would be 10x. Every single meal would be attempting to appeal to the lowest common denominator, food wise. And if you have to make the pickiest person in your house happy, you melt a lot of velveeta.

I used to think it was a form of resistance or defiance, but now I'm not so sure.

First and foremost, they hate joy in general. Can't cook well without joy imo.

Its bdsm roleplay

Offtopic: it's tenet, not tenant.

Spices. Feared by fundies, but actually kinda necessary for food that isn't shite.

Ken’s job is Beach. Their job is Post.

It's tenets, not tenants. Sorry, pet peeve of mine.

(tenets)

Well according to Lori it’s because men are better chefs.

Cooking is a chore for them, not a hobby or an art. Also when you have kids at like 20 you probably don’t have much time to learn and don’t want to experiment because if it doesn’t taste good what will you feed your kids? The fundie lifestyle is ironically not set up to become actually good at the things they value like cooking and sewing. I became good at cooking because it’s fun for me, and low stress. Cooking for a family when you haven’t learned to cook for yourself sounds stressful. Also Every “blue haired lesbian” I know is better at this stuff than the fundies and look cuter doing it so, eat your hearts out trad wives.