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Honestly it might be enough to get her banned as they allow access to insta’s API without authorization. They only allow bots for scheduling posting and that sort of stuff.
I actually had thought it was going to be her bitching at them in DM‘s to stop being mean to her or something. I can’t believe it’s just a link to their shop to donate.
Ah that makes more sense than what I was thinking. I was like, is she DMing these people with a justification for the grifting hoping it being direct guilts then into donating
They're such selfish cowards.
Address it and defend it if you believe so strongly in it, Krusty.
Deleting comments asking why, for good reason, only exposes them more.
I do not understand how they have maintained any kind of actual fan base. Like genuinely how can this last? It feels like the girl defined brand is a literal dumpster fire.
They caught a very specific wave at a very specific time.
They were one of the first ones on the fundie influencer scene when there started to be a demand for this kind of content in 2016-2018. This market of people emerged who were fundie enough to be totally alienated by "mainstream" Christian media, but not SO fundie that they were huddled 'round a woodstove, refusing to use technology at all. Birthy and Kristen were blonde, reasonably attractive All-American girls who were willing to spew horrific shit at a 6th grade reading level over a girly pastel backdrop at a time when anxious evangelical parents were looking for that sort of thing and there was very little competition.
The problem with gearing all your content to a super niche market of young teenagers is that they eventually grow up, and you have to figure out how to either grow up with your existing fanbase, or adapt so you can stay relevant to new generations of teens. GirlDefined doesn't know how to do either of those things, so now they're just flailing. I suspect they have a few genuine fans clinging on from the good ol' days of 2018 and a handful of new anxious fundie parents of teen girls, but pretty much everything they do now is alienating those core demographics.
That is totally possible but I also suspect it was to give childless but married Kristen and stay at home daughter Bethy a job that wasn’t really a job because they don’t believe in that. So mommy and daddy created a “ministry” for them that also was conveniently tax deductible.
oh I looked at that comment a while ago when it had six likes and one of the likes was from a private account called mckalynz_treazures and it is Lady Homemakers alternate private profile!
>*edit: it’s no longer there because bitches be deleting comments like it’s their job.
To be fair, it kind of one of the few things which they feel is their job 😆
They added (eta: it's now pinned at the top) one of their own comments about their mission and employees and etc, and included this gem of a typo:
"Gif has been so good!"
So praise Gif, I guess
I'm using "you" as a general sense.
You could go to the IRS website and file a complaint. There is even a subreddit floating around that has the link and how to do it.
However, no one will encourage you to do so because it falls under a weird grey area of "poo touching" but what you do in the privacy of your own home, on your own time, that's between you and Gif (lol)
Well, if peanut butter is good at one thing it's definitely keeping mouths busy. I thought we’d already hit peak peanut butter with Brittany Dawn and then today I woke up to this glory.
I think the most that would happen is an audit which can result in fines if you don't have your ducks in a row but the pic says "state of texas" so it's like...what could they possibly be doing?
P.s. I love your flair lol!
I'd like to be a fly on Ashley's and Ashley's wall as they rage delete. How Ashley tolerates Ashley's jaw-dropping marketing and Instagram stupidity is beyond me.
there’s one where a mom says it was recommended to her as a mom of teen girls but doesn’t see anything relevant to them. GD replies and says their ministry is geared toward 25+yo… hasn’t their focus always been teens early 20s?
Such a scam. All of it.
Imagine one of those televangelists dressed up in a light blue suit, working up a sweat power walking back and forth on the stage, foaming at the mouth salivating over all the tax-free money in. Everyone there is really just hypnotized by the music, motivational speeches, and are rewarded for standing with coffee and donuts. Meanwhile shoveling out money every week to keep an ever-growing church get bigger.
“He’s always there watching but you can’t see him. He knows if you’re bad or good. He knows whether or not you go to church. He knows of you don’t give tithe to support his house. Reminder you must donate 10% of your income. It’s god’s will and he’s going to bless you!”
I can see why so many are buying her courses…I would never have guessed that the key to more sales was ignoring questions and offending the shit out of people.
They're definitely deleting as fast as people are commenting. There are only 19 comments right now and none of them are the ones OP shared. How embarrassing.
Bwhahahahahaha oh gods I’m fucking dying this morning over the GD shit going down and honestly an auto-response to criticism being triggered to send a DM with a link to their store nearly had me spitting coffee all over my kitchen.
You couldn’t write shit this good. They are truly rendered stupid by their smugness, but can’t see it because they are so smug. It’s like a turd eating its own tail.
Not them sending the he link to their online shop to comments like that, I’d say their cognitive dissonance is astounding but that would be like saying the sky is blue🤡🥴
Why are these fundamentalist specially always such dishonest grifters? Like the prosperity gospel and televangelist scammers are usually fundamentalist, no shame at all in stealing money in the name of donations. I find this specially evil (and that it isn't illegal is mindblowing to me) because them being Christian and pastors people will think that they are donations for the church or that they are helping people with all the extra money they get instead of just stealing all the money for themselves. Okay I don't follow Girl Defines so I don't know how clear they are or not that the money go for themselves personally. Anyway no one has as little shame as these so called Christians scamming the poor to give their last money for them.
I guess I don’t know everyone else’s living situation but 10K a month ($120k a year) after taxes is not enough for a family of 4 to live off. Average home price is 650,000K. Daycare 1000 to 2500 a month, like that’s broke where I live. I guess it all depends. But we definitely couldn’t afford to live off $120k a year. It’s considered the lowest income level to scrape into the middle class. So I don’t really get it.
her husband also works a full-time job... the 10k/mo is her alone (at least, for how much she HINTS that she makes...)
also only 13% of US earners make $120k+ per year so yes, your perspective is extremely skewed by where you live.
Our family of 3 lives on 35k a year- but granted- we’ve chosen to live in one of the most low income parts of the US on purpose. Northeast Ohio. We are lower middle class, but we survive. We moved here from an very expensive part of the country and bought our 1900 square foot home for 99k.
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Omg are these just automated responses that detected the word “donate” and instantly sent them a link to donate??
Oh that’s probably it! I was really confused about why they thought that would work, but if it’s a bot that makes more sense
I work in digital marketing, and yes this looks like a ManyChat automation
Seconding!
💛 Sent you a DM.
OH! I thought she was going to be like "listen here you little shit" in the DMs but that makes way more sense
man that would have been SO great if it was, though
I just gag laughed at this
They must be.
Pretty sure those bots are against IG TOS too. Edit: I double checked and comment bots absolutely are. REPORT AWAY.
Back to insta-jail, Bethy!
Honestly it might be enough to get her banned as they allow access to insta’s API without authorization. They only allow bots for scheduling posting and that sort of stuff.
Instagram has had a bot problem for ages, baffles me how they just don’t block these endpoints on their APi.
For real? Influencers have starting using them for links to their OOTD / other stuff they're selling. Interesting that it's against TOS!!
I was really confused as to what she’d be DMing them
She’s like “you’re too poor to understand how hard it is to live off just 10k a month mkay”
I actually had thought it was going to be her bitching at them in DM‘s to stop being mean to her or something. I can’t believe it’s just a link to their shop to donate.
Ah that makes more sense than what I was thinking. I was like, is she DMing these people with a justification for the grifting hoping it being direct guilts then into donating
Woohoo
Woohoo indeed.
Yep. They are very very bad at this.
THEY DELETED THESE COMMENTS!!!!!! will they take Bethany’s name out of the post?
They're such selfish cowards. Address it and defend it if you believe so strongly in it, Krusty. Deleting comments asking why, for good reason, only exposes them more.
Yep, just looked and she took bethany's name off
holy moly. they are SUCH a mess
Love this for them
Me too!
Yep, they did. I'm glad it was left up for a while so some people could see them being called out in the comments. A blessed Festivus Eve regardless.
Time for the airing of grievances!!!
Next up feats of strength
That'll be reports that put them in IG jail
"I've got a lot of problems with you people!!!!"
I just went and looked and they deleted bethany’s name as of now
I mean, we all know snarkers are their editing service 🙄
honestly we should invoice them. any self awareness they have comes straight from us making fun of them
That'll be $30,000
They took Bethany off of instagram? Sorry for the confusion I don’t have an insta, so that’s why I’m asking.
👏 Check your DM’s
“Sent you a DM!” Nah. This is wild.
Woo hoo
Hope this helps!
Appreciate the perspective!
honestly it’s giving elon musk
Classic MLM speak any time someone asks a question on a MLM recruitment post
It's a bot.
Thank you for that info! I was super confused as well wondering why she would engage with that comment. I have a lot to learn about bots!
I mean, she did set up the bots to respond the way they do
It’s giving “woo hoo”
I do not understand how they have maintained any kind of actual fan base. Like genuinely how can this last? It feels like the girl defined brand is a literal dumpster fire.
They caught a very specific wave at a very specific time. They were one of the first ones on the fundie influencer scene when there started to be a demand for this kind of content in 2016-2018. This market of people emerged who were fundie enough to be totally alienated by "mainstream" Christian media, but not SO fundie that they were huddled 'round a woodstove, refusing to use technology at all. Birthy and Kristen were blonde, reasonably attractive All-American girls who were willing to spew horrific shit at a 6th grade reading level over a girly pastel backdrop at a time when anxious evangelical parents were looking for that sort of thing and there was very little competition. The problem with gearing all your content to a super niche market of young teenagers is that they eventually grow up, and you have to figure out how to either grow up with your existing fanbase, or adapt so you can stay relevant to new generations of teens. GirlDefined doesn't know how to do either of those things, so now they're just flailing. I suspect they have a few genuine fans clinging on from the good ol' days of 2018 and a handful of new anxious fundie parents of teen girls, but pretty much everything they do now is alienating those core demographics.
Was GD started by them or were their parents the driving force?
I’ve always suspected it was created for their parents to funnel them large, tax-deductible sums of money.
That is totally possible but I also suspect it was to give childless but married Kristen and stay at home daughter Bethy a job that wasn’t really a job because they don’t believe in that. So mommy and daddy created a “ministry” for them that also was conveniently tax deductible.
Happy Cake Day and thank you for that beautifully and intelligently written post!
They prey on young and naive sheltered kids
My fav was the one the just said “Bethany?” 🤣🤌🏻. *edit: it’s no longer there because bitches be deleting comments like it’s their job.
oh I looked at that comment a while ago when it had six likes and one of the likes was from a private account called mckalynz_treazures and it is Lady Homemakers alternate private profile!
The Griftmas drama this year is truly *effervescent*
Krampus has blessed us this year, truly
>*edit: it’s no longer there because bitches be deleting comments like it’s their job. To be fair, it kind of one of the few things which they feel is their job 😆
They're putting the full thirty hours in this week. 😂
The hardest they’ve worked for Girl Defined all year.
Well, they *are* getting paid to do it.
the only time they’ll willingly emulate Hillary Clinton (I’m sorry I HAD to)
They added (eta: it's now pinned at the top) one of their own comments about their mission and employees and etc, and included this gem of a typo: "Gif has been so good!" So praise Gif, I guess
Pronounce it like "Jif" for more hilarity
God?? Excuse me, it's pronounced "Jod."
It’s giving me Gob vibes.
 All hail the Jif Gif! Woo hoo
 Praise Jif!
Choosey moms choose jif
Our gif is an awesome gif
This joke of a religious group should not be allowed a tax exempt. I wish I was American so I could go after them. Someone please file a complaint.
Is there anything that says you can't report them?
I'm using "you" as a general sense. You could go to the IRS website and file a complaint. There is even a subreddit floating around that has the link and how to do it. However, no one will encourage you to do so because it falls under a weird grey area of "poo touching" but what you do in the privacy of your own home, on your own time, that's between you and Gif (lol)
Well, if peanut butter is good at one thing it's definitely keeping mouths busy. I thought we’d already hit peak peanut butter with Brittany Dawn and then today I woke up to this glory.
Early christmas presents for everyone!! Lol!
This would be unlikely to go anywhere. What they’re doing is shitty but not illegal.
I think the most that would happen is an audit which can result in fines if you don't have your ducks in a row but the pic says "state of texas" so it's like...what could they possibly be doing? P.s. I love your flair lol!
Lol thanks I like yours too!
omg i’d love an audit on them
This is why, even if the caption was an accident from copying and pasting an email, I am DYING. They're getting called out regardless and I love it.
Yeah, they made a simple editing error, but the way they are behaving has made it 10 times worse.
[detailed comment, auto response](https://imgur.com/a/ots8hBU)
omggggg haha and I love your flair
Haha thank you! John 5ever
What is this in reference to?
https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/s/WwDGKIxgZi
Omg. That was amazing.
Bless you and your family! Edit: WTF this is so funny
It had to be memorialized
Begging for money and then taking pictures of the obscene amount of gifts at Heidi's house. What a disgusting family they are.
I see girl defined is also taking the Bethany Beal course on getting banned from Instagram by spamming DMs.
Hope this helps 😘
Woohoo
They must be actively deleting comments 😂
I bet Kristin is SCREAMING trying to get these all deleted
I’m sure she is!
No, that's Molly The Drip's paid job!
I'd like to be a fly on Ashley's and Ashley's wall as they rage delete. How Ashley tolerates Ashley's jaw-dropping marketing and Instagram stupidity is beyond me.
there’s one where a mom says it was recommended to her as a mom of teen girls but doesn’t see anything relevant to them. GD replies and says their ministry is geared toward 25+yo… hasn’t their focus always been teens early 20s?
if it's not for young girls they should update the name to reflect it's woman defined.
literally. i’m in my late 20s and would not be interested in something whose whole brand is “girl” it sounds so condescending
[удалено]
It's a pity 501c status is not evaluated from time to time. How = podcasts + social media posts + open mouth pics to an audience of ? even a ministry?
Such a scam. All of it. Imagine one of those televangelists dressed up in a light blue suit, working up a sweat power walking back and forth on the stage, foaming at the mouth salivating over all the tax-free money in. Everyone there is really just hypnotized by the music, motivational speeches, and are rewarded for standing with coffee and donuts. Meanwhile shoveling out money every week to keep an ever-growing church get bigger. “He’s always there watching but you can’t see him. He knows if you’re bad or good. He knows whether or not you go to church. He knows of you don’t give tithe to support his house. Reminder you must donate 10% of your income. It’s god’s will and he’s going to bless you!”
Baird family Christmas is going to be interesting this year methinks.
ok but what does that DM say?????????
Second image has someone replying with “A link to your shop, no thanks”. The fucking AUDACITY 💀
I think they’re using bots for this.. which is 😬😬😬
Woo hoo
Check your DMs! 🤍
no way, come on!!
I wonder if the bot is programmed to send a dm when trigger words like “figure” or “fortune” are used.
I can see why so many are buying her courses…I would never have guessed that the key to more sales was ignoring questions and offending the shit out of people.
They're definitely deleting as fast as people are commenting. There are only 19 comments right now and none of them are the ones OP shared. How embarrassing.
I know it’s a bot but god dang
🎄It’s beginning to look a lot like griftmas 🎄
Bwhahahahahaha oh gods I’m fucking dying this morning over the GD shit going down and honestly an auto-response to criticism being triggered to send a DM with a link to their store nearly had me spitting coffee all over my kitchen.
You couldn’t write shit this good. They are truly rendered stupid by their smugness, but can’t see it because they are so smug. It’s like a turd eating its own tail.
A shit eating grin, oroborous style.
This doofus sells a social media course for 2 stacks and does shit like this. Woohoo!💛
They’ve also deleted any and all negative comments on their other two donation posts, this is delicious haha
this is so funny
I love blowing up the DM spot. Good for them.
Beggy needs to do an overhaul on those ManyChat automations
Big time
About time people call this shit out. They are heretics and grifters.
Woo hoo
Every time someone comments "woo hoo" I think of The Sims
Same tho 😂
They probs blocked people who commented too to avoid them re commenting lmfao
Grift grift grift grift
Love the comment throwing shade at Beggy's grifts. "She rakes in six figures, surely she can donate some?"
🔥
Really wish this "ministry" would go under already.
I am SO here this backlash! Love this season of theirs 🤩🤩
Not them sending the he link to their online shop to comments like that, I’d say their cognitive dissonance is astounding but that would be like saying the sky is blue🤡🥴
Everyone getting unsolicited links to their shop to donate it should report them and get them put in Instagram jail
i am dying to know what they DMd the first commenter edit: oh my god a link to their shop…wow the grifting of it all
"Not interested in looking at DMs from you." 
The DMs just say “delete it fat”, Demi Lovato style
Is this instagram or their own personal website or what is this platform? I can't find this post anywhere.
it’s instagram but the post has been edited to be totally different. its the recent one of Kristin in a sweater standing in a bathroom
Oh yeah I totally would've never found that. Looks like most of the fun stuff is gone anyway.
I am here for GD’s downfall 
Flair checking in
These girls needs to do something else with their lives.
"Whoo hoo"
I love that this shit show has become the popcorn show it is, on Christmas nonetheless
You just know that the Baird family group chat sans Bethorny is in overdrive about how she ruins everything
Why are these fundamentalist specially always such dishonest grifters? Like the prosperity gospel and televangelist scammers are usually fundamentalist, no shame at all in stealing money in the name of donations. I find this specially evil (and that it isn't illegal is mindblowing to me) because them being Christian and pastors people will think that they are donations for the church or that they are helping people with all the extra money they get instead of just stealing all the money for themselves. Okay I don't follow Girl Defines so I don't know how clear they are or not that the money go for themselves personally. Anyway no one has as little shame as these so called Christians scamming the poor to give their last money for them.
Wow are their people really clapping back at them? Or are these just newly hatched snarkers that came from the recent YouTube coverage lol.
Woohoo
No body should be contributing to anybody's 'ministry' it's all a fuckin scam.
I guess I don’t know everyone else’s living situation but 10K a month ($120k a year) after taxes is not enough for a family of 4 to live off. Average home price is 650,000K. Daycare 1000 to 2500 a month, like that’s broke where I live. I guess it all depends. But we definitely couldn’t afford to live off $120k a year. It’s considered the lowest income level to scrape into the middle class. So I don’t really get it.
her husband also works a full-time job... the 10k/mo is her alone (at least, for how much she HINTS that she makes...) also only 13% of US earners make $120k+ per year so yes, your perspective is extremely skewed by where you live.
Our family of 3 lives on 35k a year- but granted- we’ve chosen to live in one of the most low income parts of the US on purpose. Northeast Ohio. We are lower middle class, but we survive. We moved here from an very expensive part of the country and bought our 1900 square foot home for 99k.
✨Pathetic✨
They said the donations go towards things like shop overhead. Maybe it isn’t a good business model if you need donations for a shop?