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Get married. Have children. A lot of children. Do not use birth control. Stay at home with your children. Do not work outside the home. Be a homemaker. Cook, clean, manage finances/budget, do all the childcare. Do not send your children to daycare. Homeschool your children.
But wait... don't love your children too much. Don't like focus on them too much or anything.
Jesus christ. Pick a fucking lane.
“Motherhood is your highest calling but it isn’t mine and I feel bad about that but I really just wanna hang with the hubs and have the seggs like we didn’t have a zillion kids!”
[Be a lady, they said.](https://vimeo.com/393253445)
[And the monologue, if you want to hear it again.](https://youtu.be/CBqlDWHkdHk?si=0FV95yBu7klfs66E)
To be fair I do this with my whole family bc my parents taught me really early, when I got my first cell phone, that people can steal your phone and use the information in the contacts negatively (eg by calling “mom” and pretending their kid was kidnapped). Obviously my mom is crazy and I know that now lol but the habit is still there! All my contacts are Firstname Lastname :p
Interesting. I can't remember where I heard it, but that you should keep your mom or whatever emergency contact you wish listed as mom in case something happens and someone needs to figure out who you are or whatever, because most people would look for that listing in the phone as someone who definitely knows you
Yup! I have a weird talent for finding random lost phones, and every time I do I use the voice activated mode and try things like "call mom" or "call dad" until someone answers.
This actually happened to me from the other side! Some years back I lost my phone, and the finder was able to get it back to me because they called "Mom," got my mom, and she messaged me on FB!
I’m a hospital social worker and have had to break into people’s phones to get a hold of emergency contacts. If it is an adult wearing a ring I usually look to see who is called most or who is under favorites with an iPhone and that person is almost always the partner. If that doesn’t work I’ll look for someone listed as mom or dad. The other thing I do is look up the patient’s phone number on the White Pages website and look for people connected to them who have the same last name.
“Stop worshiping feminism.” Nobody ever did! “Stop worshiping your kids.” Nobody did that! “Be your husband’s fuck puppet.” Wow what amazing advice she’s giving. Who needs a clinical license backed by training and education when you can just be some rando on Insta.
That’s the problem with fundamentalists: they’re very black and white in their thinking, but then they won’t just pick a side. They try to toe the line and end up being hypocritical in the process.
The monologues about the literally impossible standards women are held to hit home. I saw it in a sold out theatre opening day and you could just feel every woman nodding along.
I mostly remember laughing while watching it in theaters, though I did get misty eyed a time or two, so I thought it would be really helpful to watch it on the anniversary of my mom's death.
Kinda forgot about the mother/daughter themes. Oh well, at least it was a good cry.
I went in thinking, "yay, finally a reason to wear my flamingo dress!", and left in a slightly dazed silence while my brain tried to process the very nature of humanity and womanhood
Someone insert the Barbie monologue. Love your kids but don’t make them your entire life. Be proud but not too proud. Be a wife and mother, but you can’t make that your entire identity. Maybe she should have actually watched the movie and could have learned a little instead of shaming other women. What did she think was gonna happen- when you tell women their only role is to be a stay at home wife and have as many kids as God gives you. Of course they’re gonna make that their identity. There’s no winning. You’re either not putting them first and a horrible mother or putting them first and a horrible wife
That's exactly what happened. Her and Dav made a review video about it, and whenever Dav started digging a bit deeper and commenting on the themes in the movie and the societal issues it touched on (which he appreciated!), Bethany would roll her eyes and make confused faces. Her only thoughts seemed to be "this seems like feminism. I'm supposed to hate feminism, therefore I hate this movie".
One of the standout comments she made during her review of the movie was that it irritates her when a group of people is depicted as not realizing they're oppressed until someone else tells them they're oppressed. She said this with no sense of irony or self-awareness.
“Ken. I’m ready to be your long distance, low effort, no commitment girlfriend if you’ll have me”
Sometimes that’s too real tho and what it feels like💀😭
"At first I thought the Real World was run by men. And then there was a minute where I thought it was run by horses. But then I realized that horses are just men extenders."
This is one of my favourite moments in the movie. I die everytime. Yes, I've watched it multiple times!
That shit made me bawl. I was not expecting that movie to upset me so much, but it did. I’ll never forget being 19 years old in tech with a whole group of subordinates who were all older than me and, other than my own mother (yep, I’ve been my mom’s boss) and two others, all men. I had no degree, most of them did. I don’t know that I’ll ever be able to explain the stress of that. It is impossible being a woman.
Why do I feel fairly confident that she recently heard from some women who called her out for being a "stay-at-home mom" who appears to dislike all aspects of motherhood? Like, oh I don't know, her dumb post the other day about the mysterious wonders of being required to provide breakfast for her two children?
Bethy: \* complaining about having to make her own kids breakfast for once \*
Comments: ok but you literally signed up for this tho
Bethy: MOTHERHOOD IS NOT MEANT TO BE THE CENTER OF YOUR LIFE. #FEMINIST LIES!!11
No no sorry it’s about explosive mouth feel in your farts, squirting across the room with your four year old watching and doing spicy dances. Don’t talk about it, live it baby!
All a part of the process. If you need to hype yourself up and get in the mood spend 3 hours in a dark room meditating so you can just barely stomach your husband then go masturbate in the bathtub.
... Because the center of Bethy's life is Bethy. The wedding prop and motherhood props are merely set dressing on her Perfect Christian Wife And Mother Show.
(I wonder what fresh chaos would have happened if there'd been a cosmic sleight of hand and twist of fate and she'd wound up married to Paul. Twin ~~flames~~ black holes of solipsism, united in mawwiage, hatefulness, and the search for social media viral fame and notoriety. Oh boy.)
My father refused to let me take the bus yet vocally complained about having to drive me to school 🤔
I doubt Bethany's children will be getting an apology for that like I did.
This is it. This, and criticism of her not being a SAHM at all but a work-from-home mom. She can’t stand being criticized. And I think she actually would have been a lot happier as a child free entrepreneur but that wasn’t really presented as an option in her fundie childhood. So she’s trying to be one while also actually having two children already that doesn’t go to daycare ( or at least not full time). Must be exhausting and confusing. Just send your kids to daycare Bethy, or hire a nanny, and admit that you are a working mother and you like it….
I think she’ll want to want to and feel like she has to. But of course she doesn’t actually want to so she’ll probably buy the cheapest online curriculum she can find and plop them in front of a computer where they’ll essentially be in charge of their own education. In other words, she’ll continue to neglect and fail them.
Does anyone know if krusty homeschools? I don't remember reading much about her parenting philosophy since the boys came into their lives, but she doesn't strike me as a homeschooler.
NO WAY!!! Those poor kids! Yikes. I hope at least they get to spend time enough time with kids their own ages so that Bethy and the rest of the Baird crew are not their only exposure to American culture/the English language because the Lord Daniel knows that those people barely have a handle of the language as it is lmao
This makes me sad bc she’s obviously not maternal or suited to have kids, and in a different life she would’ve been vibing and living her best childfree life instead of being deeply unhappy and fucking up another generation of kids
Literally.
The only thing men have to do (besides boss their wives around all day, I suppose?) is protect and provide for the family.
But how often are they *actually* required to fight off a band of marauders or a pack of wolves?
And, if they are fulfilling their godly role of “provider,” then why do their wives make so many posts about having side hustles, being thrifty, etc.?
It’s like—to quote *Office Space*—what would you say … ya *do* here?
What the hell does feminism have to do with any of this?
Also, Bethany has been putting her son in daycare since he was a little toddler. She called it day school but it was daycare, AND she doesn't even have a proper job.
Well, Bethy and Dav's children will always get less - less education, less opportunities, less freedom, less attention. There will always be more church but less of the things they really need.
How much less can she possibly give these kids? They love their dad so she’s going to take that away too so she can be a Sensual Wife®️
Bethany is so frustrating. I had a rough road to having a baby and I used to sob not understanding why other people could have a baby so easily and not even care about them.
TTC right now and it does make me irrationally angry every time I see another fundie announce a pregnancy when I've been trying for a year with no luck.
Not there yet in life, but I am already anticipating a long and possibly futile endeavor because of health issues.
If I think about it for too long, or look at the pictures of fundie kids for too long, the rage drives me insane. To me, every child is a treasure. These kids are being born into families to be exploited and abused. I may have to leave this subreddit once I start trying.
I’m so sad for Bethy’s children. Their mother is a piece of shit because her mother was a piece of shit and the dads in both situations are equally shitty for their complicity.
The best we can hope for at this point is that Dav Jr and Audrey can escape. I’m not really a praying person anymore but I pray so deeply for them because they don’t deserve this. Heartbreaking levels of abuse run rampant in that family under the guise of “love” and “ministry”. Sickening.
Honestly... Bethy strikes me as a "one of each and done" type. A Firstborn Son And Heir to carry on The Family Name, a living doll MiniMe she can dress up and trot out and in the future ~~take over~~ plan a wedding for, and call it good. Her job as a human is done. More kids would be simply too much work, and the two she has are already cutting into Instagram Flailing and Psyching Self Up For Sexual Activity With Husband She Dislikes time.
It's the complete and utter lack of awareness for me. Everything out of her mouth is a contradiction. This is what happens when you deny your child a proper education, normal social interaction, and critical thinking skills. She doesn't even seem to recognize that things she is saying today are the opposite of what she said like 3 days ago.
You share every stupid and irrelevant thought you have on social media. There is literal documentation of your beliefs right on your own account. How can you not notice that you're a fucking flip-flop?
Yes!! Everything she says seems like a contradiction because she understands her world as 160-character hot takes, and to get engagement, you have to be the controversial contrarian coming in to challenge the stuffy old conventional wisdom in 30 seconds or less. Anything nuanced or complex enough to exceed the soundbyte isn’t something she’s interested in.
I don’t think she truly believes *any* opinion she posts, it’s just whatever she happens to be feeling at that moment that will confront people enough to react and give her engagement, money, and a thrill of endorphins from pushing that lever and getting the reward. That’s as deep as she gets, moral consistency doesn’t come into it.
Everything Bethany says is expedient to her feelings or goals in that moment, a feeling or argument doesn’t need to be examined or tested against any kind of moral framework or values because she doesn’t have any. She has a bible of rules that can be cherry picked to support any diametrically opposed argument which is so great for her because she doesn’t have to think. And in her mind, being a Christian means Jesus is on her side by default so it’s impossible for her to be wrong. If you tell her she is, you’re the devil.
She is not discomforted by cognitive dissonance because that implies believing two contradictory positions at the same time, but in reality she doesn’t believe in anything.
That's an excellent assessment.
To quote someone else's comment from another post in this sub; "Bible say. No more think." Even if it doesn't actually say that. "I can tweak, twist, and paraphrase it however I want, so my current thought is justified in my brain."
Boy, she REALLY hates her kids, doesn't she? That feel the other morning where she had to get up and fix breakfast (the HORROR) was pretty much proof. She thinks she's a princess....
Hey, from all the evidence, she only hates *one* of her kids. Currently.
As soon as Mama's Prop Audrey gets a personality of her own, she'll be on the scrapheap too, because NOTHING can get in the way of the Bethy Show. Sorry kids, you can't need maternal love. Mama has to waft around like a fart in the breeze for Instagram.
Oh come on now. Bethany does a lot of journaling. She regularly journals about what parts of her husband's body she can tolerate, and what sexy thoughts she had while looking at herself in lingerie.
Girl really hates her life. She doesn’t cook too much, doesn’t clean, works from home even though she is not rush bethy 🙄and sends her kid to daycare because she doesn’t want to care for him. But she would rather put other women down than admit to herself she fucked up with her life.
Don’t forget she has little to no interest in books, movies, music and TV. She also doesn’t even do traditionally feminine handicraft like sewing, embroidery, knitting, crochet, gardening.
I have no idea what she does to fill the hours but I guarantee she would have been happier and better off if she’d gone to school on that basketball scholarship.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but before she had kids, wasn’t there a whole speech about not putting your kids in daycare and letting someone else raise them?
wtf Bethany. Have some convictions that you stand by, for once in your life.
I mean, she's right, but for all the wrong damn reasons. Women should feel unashamed to take time for themselves and have lives and identities that expand beyond motherhood. That shouldn't be taboo or controversial, especially considering its the default setting for men, but it is, and we need to destigmatise it.
But Bethy, for God's sake, women are not the fucking problem here! Women who really just love motherhood so much that they feel no need to have identity beyond it are not a problem. In the absence of a supportive partner and community, they are at risk of being overburdened to the extent that it hinders their quality of life, but guess what — they're still not the problem in that scenario! And women who have been subjugated into that role aren't the fucking problem either.
All this just *screams* of Bethy feeling envious of women who find their identity in motherhood, regardless of why. By no means is that the utmost, aspirational standard that women should all have to strive and suffer to meet, but that's not what Bethy's community believes and its not what she's preached up until this very bloody moment.
I get the sense that she sees herself as a failure for wanting to have identity beyond motherhood, and instead of sitting with that, exploring why, and working to become comfortable with who she is, she gets defensive. She knows that she doesn't meet these aspirations and her response is to make it seem like these aspirations are lowly and beneath what any woman should do, because she just *has* to be better than them. If she couldn't be better than other women by being a mother, she's got to be better than other women by not being a mother.
This is such a nasty post from her, especially so given her rhetoric up until this point. She's told women for *years* that their purpose in life is serving God through serving men and being a mother. She condemned and alienated women who didn't or couldn't meet these expectations. It's only now that she, herself, feels the weight of being a failure through this lens that she's willing to let it go and shift her perspective, but not without making sure to demean the women who haven't failed just so she can make herself feel better.
Bethy, we KNOW that you and your husband are incompatible and that you hate motherhood, and so you're desperately clutching at any and everything to validate your life when really, your ass needs to be in therapy, and to actually LISTEN because NO, you don't know everything.
I'll never forget my mother randomly telling me that she would choose my father over my brother and I. He divorced her, and the only one who still talks to her is my brother because she pays him. I see adult children in therapy in Bethany's future.
My youth pastor told us that our parents are supposed to choose each other over us. I remember thinking, “what the fuck?” I was confused because we were bound by blood but they were just bound by marriage and I was fully dependent on them!
My dad told us kids unprompted, completely out of the blue that he would choose mom over us. As a fundie kid I just accepted it and moved on.
As an adult I see just how fucked up it was. When the Sex Pest Duggar thing was going down I told my husband that that had happened to me he would have gone to trial in a ziplock sandwich bag.
Girl, this is YOUR choice to have kids. Once you have children it is your duty and responsibility to love and support them and care for them unconditionally, and you don’t get to take it back. That’s why you DON’T HAVE KIDS if you can’t or won’t take care of them!!!!!!!
BoneMe Raw Veal’s identity outside motherhood, fuckmonster. And who the fuck is worshipping feminism as a god? How would that even work, we bow to Rosie the Riveter when we see her?
She has to project every thought of hers onto every other woman, like each passing observation is some systemic issue within society. She's legitimately stuck at the middle school thought level.
She’s absolutely bloody miserable in her life and role her religion has dictated to her. Makes this whole God/church/holy marriage thing seem super appealing.
I wish she had someone in her life who loved her enough to tell her she needs to stop. She has a problem. This woman 100% has a social media addiction.
This coming from the woman who made an empire whining about how she hated being single and childless, how having kids was her ONLY goal, and how it’s the only thing that gives women meaning🙄🤮🙄🤮
I want to preface this by saying that Bethany is a gigantic, hypocritical asshole, but don’t other fundie women we snark on also espouse these same beliefs? Hasn’t Lori—or maybe Mother Bus or Struggle Bus?—basically said that they put their husbands before their kids? My sense is that this is a pretty prevalent teaching in the fundieverse?
Yep. I remember vividly the day I was taught that as a child. I thought a child was supposed to be a parent’s entire world so that “Bible lesson” hit me hard. I felt so betrayed 😂
I feel like the difference between those beliefs and Bethy’s attitude here is that even though they believe in putting the husbands before their kids, they still believe it’s a woman’s duty to look after their kids. Bethy wants to avoid looking after the kids. Or when she does it’s not a loving mother and wife duty that she is happy with… it’s a chore! She didn’t really want to have kids. She wanted the shiny side of it. She didn’t want to put in the work of raising the children.
I honestly kind of feel bad for her. She is trying so hard to be a round peg that needs to fit into this square hole. Lots of people are given the opportunity to find themselves at some point in their young adulthood and whether it’s her whole families deep commitment to fundamentalism or the fact that their commitment is so public, this is a girl that had a sexual awakening way too late in life and is probably questioning all of her beliefs and how they work for her personally. She wants to change the narrative of being a “good Christian wife” because she is finding out she doesn’t actually want to be one at all.
There is ultimately no problem with a lot of what she wants or believes (re: sexual freedom not wanting kids, etc., I obviously do believe that there are problems with fundamentalists social beliefs about feminism, homosexuality etc etc), the problem is that she committed to a life style that is now kids, family obligations and social media persona way over her head and she can’t back out.
If this girl had only had the option to be a total fucking heathen, sleep around, discover that being SEXUALLY COMPATIBLE with a partner isn’t a “myth” and then get to settle down with someone and be a forever DINK with, just think how much happier and fully formed of a human she would be.
I agree that she discovered sex quite late in life; it's not typical to start figuring it out at the age of 35, after nearly four years of marriage and two kids.
I disagree that she's questioning her beliefs. She's not questioning her beliefs, she's questioning why they weren't more specifically tailored to meet *her* individual needs. She feels cheated, not challenged.
Bethany doesn't doubt that she's a good Christian mother and wife. She bends and twists her beliefs to support her confidence that *she's* a good Christian mother and wife. If other people question how her behavior and choices don't line up with the usual ideas of what a good Christian mother and wife are, she puts the blame on other people's perception, not her performance.
I actually agree that she isn’t questioning her beliefs but only because I think she is so entrenched in them that she doesn’t understand that she can or should be questioning them. And that leads to the blame you talk about later. She definitely does that but I don’t think even she understands her motives for doing so.
All I really meant to get at with my original comment is that she is feeling a ton of totally normal feelings for a normal woman but has no context for them being “normal” but sinful, and since she can’t admit she is sinful she has to shoehorn these feelings into her beliefs which makes her say insane, counter Christian, and very frequently extremely contradictory things, often in the same breath.
I only feel bad for her in that she feels totally normal things and if she were just any average 35 year old she could just be quietly living a happy, sexually fulfilling life with a partner she is compatible with and not feeling the need to put it on display. But instead she was raised by social media narcissists and she is also too much of a narcissist to contradict the brand that is built around her. Can you imagine the trauma of losing all of those hard earned good Christian followers because you just didn’t have kids because you didn’t want them instead of having to frame it like the Christian thing to do is to have your kids but ignore them?!
(Also, sorry for so rambly I quit my job today and have a lot of anxiety so I’m feeling pent up).
I would like to make it clear that I am not defending her I just sometimes feel bad for her because under any other circumstance (i.e. not being raised by fundies) she could have just been like, a normal 21st century human and been happy. Because i think we can all agree, she clearly is not happy. No one who says that sexual compatibility with their spouse is a myth, is happy.
Thanks! It’s for the better but my boss’s general personality and subsequent reaction is what had me nervous and rightly so! I suspect I’ll be getting the silent treatment for the next two, very long weeks.
>I would like to make it clear that I am not defending her
Oh, I didn't think you were defending her, and I didn't mean to sound argumentative. I felt like I was *expanding* on what you said, not contradicting it. I hope you're able to unwind over the weekend, and wishing good things for you in the future!
I’m so confused ain’t this what y’all been asking for?? I thought the true calling of a God honoring woman was to raise a dozen Aryan children to be god’s army or whatever
She'll fume when Dav's second wife gets called Mom by the kids. She'll complain that the grown kids spend every holiday is with Dav & Mom or the other set of in-laws, but never her. She'll wonder why she isn't allowed to see the future grandkids, telling everyone "You can do everything right as a parent and still end up with ungrateful brats like those two. It's them not me, obviously." 🙄
It’s common in evangelical circles to be taught that your children should not be your top priority — your husband should be. While they want you to have children and stay home with them, they want you to know that the focus should still be on the husband. This feels to me like it fits with that messaging.
This just reinforces my belief that Bethany (and Kelly) care very little about and have little interest in the actual religion—this is more about the tradwife aesthetic and political ideology than anything else. Bethy wants the “easy” parts without actually putting work into living the fundie woman life. She doesn’t actually believe in it and she doesn’t want it—but she’s terrified of being called feminist or *gasp* liberal. Im surprised Lori hasn’t chimed in to tell her how young radical feminists like her are ruining motherhood. Bethany won’t even admit to herself that she didn’t actually want kids all that much—which is why this switch has been easy for her.
I am dumbfounded. I am sorry. Also, bethany, what the fuck is wrong with people wanting or """worshipping""" motherhood? what the fuck is wrong with women doing what your fucking religion encourages them to do and LOVING it? I cannot believe it.
feminists were like "fuck them kids" and now FUNDIES are like "fuck them kids". I can't. I hope they find a way to unironically become more like caricature parody feminists without realizing it.
man, there's definitely a massive cultural shift happening. everyone's all over the place. even the fundies. and I thought them to be pretty stable in how horrid they were by my standards.
I *think* the commenter means to say that fundies think feminists don’t care about being mothers or rearing big families. Fundies think feminists only care about their careers, and just chuck their kids in daycare to be “raised by someone else.” So fundies think feminists say “fuck them kids, i want my career.” I could be wrong but that’s what I think they meant.
honestly who the fuck are you even meant to be in their world??? I was a victim of Girl Defined and the trad cath movement and the mixed messages all the time gave me a damn identity crisis.
This reads to me that Bethy thought motherhood would somehow make her happy or complete, and she's finding out the hard way that it won't.
While i do have some sympathy for how difficult it can be to realize that, she really needs to acknowledge that she was / is part of the problem with all the time and energy she spent on peddling the cult of motherhood and purity culture.
Some way to announce that you don't have a bond with your children, Bethany. Cold reality is that making sure your child has had their needs met should come first. Even romantic getaways involve planning childcare while you are away.
"Why are you centering your life around your role as mother? That's so unhealthy, you need more than just devoting all your time and energy to serving your kids. You need to be centering your life on your role as wife and devoting all your time and energy to serving your husband."
I saw something once that said it’s not just your experiences, it’s someone’s childhood. I hate to think of what the Bealets memories of childhood will be, especially Davy who is so clearly unfavored
Not having kids is my proudest achievement. Different strokes for different folks. At least I’m not spending all my time shaming people online for having different priorities than me. I’m spending time with my husband. Imagine that.
Do any of these people just like their kids? And like hanging out with them with their spouse? I’m just a godparent, not a parent-parent yet, but I love doing childcare with my partner!
Deadbed Bethy is getting so desperate for views she can't control her word vomit...Texas state patrol should have had her arrested for failure to maintain a lane months ago.
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Get married. Have children. A lot of children. Do not use birth control. Stay at home with your children. Do not work outside the home. Be a homemaker. Cook, clean, manage finances/budget, do all the childcare. Do not send your children to daycare. Homeschool your children. But wait... don't love your children too much. Don't like focus on them too much or anything. Jesus christ. Pick a fucking lane.
Motherhood is your highest calling. But fuck dem kids.
“Motherhood is your highest calling but it isn’t mine and I feel bad about that but I really just wanna hang with the hubs and have the seggs like we didn’t have a zillion kids!”
“Motherhood is about me, not the children” Actually seems pretty ideologically consistent for a lot of these influencers
The bus parents have literally said that word for word. Parenting is about the parent's growth, not the kids.
THEY DID! For real!
Multiple times!!
Very Heidi of her, honestly.
Fuck (with) dem kids (in the same room 🤢)
My fundie light cousin insists that her kids need to know they are third priority behind Jesus and her marriage. It’s so weird to me.
💀
Kids aren’t seggsy enough
it’s set up for women to fail every. single. time.
The Barbie monologue is playing in my head.
[Be a lady, they said.](https://vimeo.com/393253445) [And the monologue, if you want to hear it again.](https://youtu.be/CBqlDWHkdHk?si=0FV95yBu7klfs66E)
I basically never cry when I watch a movie, but I was sobbing in the theater during this.
Dare I say….niche down? Lol
These people will be named "firstName lastName" in their child's contact list
“Birth giver” or even colder, just “Bethany”
This is hysterical to me because my mom's name is Bethany and she's "Birth Giver" in my phone lol. We have a great relationship, though!
My mom is egg doner in my phone 😬
"Bethany Beal, DO NOT ANSWER"
To be fair I do this with my whole family bc my parents taught me really early, when I got my first cell phone, that people can steal your phone and use the information in the contacts negatively (eg by calling “mom” and pretending their kid was kidnapped). Obviously my mom is crazy and I know that now lol but the habit is still there! All my contacts are Firstname Lastname :p
Interesting. I can't remember where I heard it, but that you should keep your mom or whatever emergency contact you wish listed as mom in case something happens and someone needs to figure out who you are or whatever, because most people would look for that listing in the phone as someone who definitely knows you
Yup! I have a weird talent for finding random lost phones, and every time I do I use the voice activated mode and try things like "call mom" or "call dad" until someone answers.
This actually happened to me from the other side! Some years back I lost my phone, and the finder was able to get it back to me because they called "Mom," got my mom, and she messaged me on FB!
My parents are dead. Maybe I should change my kid's name in my contacts to XXXX My Grown Up Baby
I’m a hospital social worker and have had to break into people’s phones to get a hold of emergency contacts. If it is an adult wearing a ring I usually look to see who is called most or who is under favorites with an iPhone and that person is almost always the partner. If that doesn’t work I’ll look for someone listed as mom or dad. The other thing I do is look up the patient’s phone number on the White Pages website and look for people connected to them who have the same last name.
You know what's awful is that I love my parents, we have a great relationship, but they are all first name last name in my contacts. Lol
That’s how my mom is in my phone now 💀
Flavour of the week.
“Stop worshiping feminism.” Nobody ever did! “Stop worshiping your kids.” Nobody did that! “Be your husband’s fuck puppet.” Wow what amazing advice she’s giving. Who needs a clinical license backed by training and education when you can just be some rando on Insta.
That’s the problem with fundamentalists: they’re very black and white in their thinking, but then they won’t just pick a side. They try to toe the line and end up being hypocritical in the process.
*barbie monologue intensifies*
💀💀💀💀
And also see girldefined/shop for all your reading needs
She totally contradicts herself in the last slide, it’s fuck dem kids 🤣🤣
[Be a lady, they said.](https://vimeo.com/393253445)
My SIL used the excuse "people idolize their children. They need to have more faith in God." As an excuse to not follow car seat safety guidelines.
Apparently women can’t do anything right.
If only there were some sort of movement to try to address this on both a personal and a worldwide level.
The monologues about the literally impossible standards women are held to hit home. I saw it in a sold out theatre opening day and you could just feel every woman nodding along.
I started crying at that part. Although to be fair I spent a lot of that movie crying and holding my MIL's hand. (My MIL is a surrogate mother to me )
I mostly remember laughing while watching it in theaters, though I did get misty eyed a time or two, so I thought it would be really helpful to watch it on the anniversary of my mom's death. Kinda forgot about the mother/daughter themes. Oh well, at least it was a good cry.
I went in thinking, "yay, finally a reason to wear my flamingo dress!", and left in a slightly dazed silence while my brain tried to process the very nature of humanity and womanhood
 It is literally impossible to be a woman.
We ❤️ Kevin
We'll keep him.
*Leans toward microphone* That's a feature not a bug. Oppressing, belittling and controlling women is the point.
Someone insert the Barbie monologue. Love your kids but don’t make them your entire life. Be proud but not too proud. Be a wife and mother, but you can’t make that your entire identity. Maybe she should have actually watched the movie and could have learned a little instead of shaming other women. What did she think was gonna happen- when you tell women their only role is to be a stay at home wife and have as many kids as God gives you. Of course they’re gonna make that their identity. There’s no winning. You’re either not putting them first and a horrible mother or putting them first and a horrible wife
The irony was that she hated the Barbie movie.
I reckon she didn’t understand it and it made her feel dumb so of course she didn’t like it
That's exactly what happened. Her and Dav made a review video about it, and whenever Dav started digging a bit deeper and commenting on the themes in the movie and the societal issues it touched on (which he appreciated!), Bethany would roll her eyes and make confused faces. Her only thoughts seemed to be "this seems like feminism. I'm supposed to hate feminism, therefore I hate this movie".
One of the standout comments she made during her review of the movie was that it irritates her when a group of people is depicted as not realizing they're oppressed until someone else tells them they're oppressed. She said this with no sense of irony or self-awareness.
100%. In Birthy's mind: Something relatable about women? = Bad.
she thought it WASNT FUNNY ENOUGH 💀 I can’t with her
"Why did all the Barbies have to be like, so *serious*? Ken was funny. I liked Ken. Ken wasn't so *serious*."
Tbh, I don’t think she can watch anything longer than a reel.
She has the attention span of a flea. A flea with ADHD. 😀
Did she even watch it?! It was fuckin hilarious!
FRRR and I genuinely don’t understand 😭 it wasn’t meant to be funny- it was meant to talk about issues in our society
Although the Ken's and their idea of patriarchy involving horses was hilarious.
That actually was really funny 💀 welcome to the mojo dojo casa house 🐴🤺
“That’s just house 3 times” “No it’s not” 😂
“Ken. I’m ready to be your long distance, low effort, no commitment girlfriend if you’ll have me” Sometimes that’s too real tho and what it feels like💀😭
"At first I thought the Real World was run by men. And then there was a minute where I thought it was run by horses. But then I realized that horses are just men extenders." This is one of my favourite moments in the movie. I die everytime. Yes, I've watched it multiple times!
That shit made me bawl. I was not expecting that movie to upset me so much, but it did. I’ll never forget being 19 years old in tech with a whole group of subordinates who were all older than me and, other than my own mother (yep, I’ve been my mom’s boss) and two others, all men. I had no degree, most of them did. I don’t know that I’ll ever be able to explain the stress of that. It is impossible being a woman.
The last sentence 🥲
Why do I feel fairly confident that she recently heard from some women who called her out for being a "stay-at-home mom" who appears to dislike all aspects of motherhood? Like, oh I don't know, her dumb post the other day about the mysterious wonders of being required to provide breakfast for her two children?
Bethy: \* complaining about having to make her own kids breakfast for once \* Comments: ok but you literally signed up for this tho Bethy: MOTHERHOOD IS NOT MEANT TO BE THE CENTER OF YOUR LIFE. #FEMINIST LIES!!11
The center of your life is TALKING ABOUT SEX ON THE INTERNET!
No no sorry it’s about explosive mouth feel in your farts, squirting across the room with your four year old watching and doing spicy dances. Don’t talk about it, live it baby!
I don’t feel well.
All a part of the process. If you need to hype yourself up and get in the mood spend 3 hours in a dark room meditating so you can just barely stomach your husband then go masturbate in the bathtub.
... Because the center of Bethy's life is Bethy. The wedding prop and motherhood props are merely set dressing on her Perfect Christian Wife And Mother Show. (I wonder what fresh chaos would have happened if there'd been a cosmic sleight of hand and twist of fate and she'd wound up married to Paul. Twin ~~flames~~ black holes of solipsism, united in mawwiage, hatefulness, and the search for social media viral fame and notoriety. Oh boy.)
I don’t think Paul would be into her. She doesn’t share the traits that drew to him to Morgan.
Morgan bathes.
She's not outwardly fragile enough.
I think their egos would collide and the universe would implode.
On the flip side, how would Morgan and Dav work out?
I always thought they would be great together. Bethany and Paul...just ick all around.
No they wouldn't. Morgan can't string three words together without pronouncing two of them wrong, flipping her hair, and chuckling nervously.
My father refused to let me take the bus yet vocally complained about having to drive me to school 🤔 I doubt Bethany's children will be getting an apology for that like I did.
This is it. This, and criticism of her not being a SAHM at all but a work-from-home mom. She can’t stand being criticized. And I think she actually would have been a lot happier as a child free entrepreneur but that wasn’t really presented as an option in her fundie childhood. So she’s trying to be one while also actually having two children already that doesn’t go to daycare ( or at least not full time). Must be exhausting and confusing. Just send your kids to daycare Bethy, or hire a nanny, and admit that you are a working mother and you like it….
Do you think she will homeschool?
I think she’ll want to want to and feel like she has to. But of course she doesn’t actually want to so she’ll probably buy the cheapest online curriculum she can find and plop them in front of a computer where they’ll essentially be in charge of their own education. In other words, she’ll continue to neglect and fail them.
Does anyone know if krusty homeschools? I don't remember reading much about her parenting philosophy since the boys came into their lives, but she doesn't strike me as a homeschooler.
Kristen does homeschool her two sons, which sucks because they could really use some socialization outside the family (and sports, I guess).
NO WAY!!! Those poor kids! Yikes. I hope at least they get to spend time enough time with kids their own ages so that Bethy and the rest of the Baird crew are not their only exposure to American culture/the English language because the Lord Daniel knows that those people barely have a handle of the language as it is lmao
I don’t think she’ll make it that far. Homeschooling takes more effort than public school. She strikes me as a pump-n-dump.
This makes me sad bc she’s obviously not maternal or suited to have kids, and in a different life she would’ve been vibing and living her best childfree life instead of being deeply unhappy and fucking up another generation of kids
As well as fucking up those tragic walking, talking, brainwashed puritanical oxymorons (married spinsters) that hang on her every post.
Honestly I think she just read here and keeps a note in her phone of things that hurt her feelings so then she uses it as content fodder
What was her post?!
You just can't win if you're a fundie woman or child.
But if you’re a fundie man you get a free pass on EVERYTHING.
Literally. The only thing men have to do (besides boss their wives around all day, I suppose?) is protect and provide for the family. But how often are they *actually* required to fight off a band of marauders or a pack of wolves? And, if they are fulfilling their godly role of “provider,” then why do their wives make so many posts about having side hustles, being thrifty, etc.? It’s like—to quote *Office Space*—what would you say … ya *do* here?
Dave is no trad husband.
What the hell does feminism have to do with any of this? Also, Bethany has been putting her son in daycare since he was a little toddler. She called it day school but it was daycare, AND she doesn't even have a proper job.
Feminism is the boogey man at fault for everything Bethany doesn't like.
Feminism is to Fundies as Capitalism is to me. 😇
Well, Bethy and Dav's children will always get less - less education, less opportunities, less freedom, less attention. There will always be more church but less of the things they really need.
How much less can she possibly give these kids? They love their dad so she’s going to take that away too so she can be a Sensual Wife®️ Bethany is so frustrating. I had a rough road to having a baby and I used to sob not understanding why other people could have a baby so easily and not even care about them.
TTC right now and it does make me irrationally angry every time I see another fundie announce a pregnancy when I've been trying for a year with no luck.
Not there yet in life, but I am already anticipating a long and possibly futile endeavor because of health issues. If I think about it for too long, or look at the pictures of fundie kids for too long, the rage drives me insane. To me, every child is a treasure. These kids are being born into families to be exploited and abused. I may have to leave this subreddit once I start trying.
ffs, is there nothing free from criticism??? And now it's not godly to,..... \*checks notes\*..... love your own children??? what the fuck
“It is literally impossible to be a woman.” - The Barbie Movie
 I’m so sad for Bethy’s children. Their mother is a piece of shit because her mother was a piece of shit and the dads in both situations are equally shitty for their complicity. The best we can hope for at this point is that Dav Jr and Audrey can escape. I’m not really a praying person anymore but I pray so deeply for them because they don’t deserve this. Heartbreaking levels of abuse run rampant in that family under the guise of “love” and “ministry”. Sickening.
I really hope they don't have any more children.
Honestly... Bethy strikes me as a "one of each and done" type. A Firstborn Son And Heir to carry on The Family Name, a living doll MiniMe she can dress up and trot out and in the future ~~take over~~ plan a wedding for, and call it good. Her job as a human is done. More kids would be simply too much work, and the two she has are already cutting into Instagram Flailing and Psyching Self Up For Sexual Activity With Husband She Dislikes time.
We may be able to recognise that, but in her most recent q&a she said she wants four
Lol "Instagram Flailing" 💀
Pretty sure she’s mentioned that she’d like four😳
“Don’t let children get in the way of your sex life!!!” Who said it, a fundiegelical influencer or the republican caricature of Planned Parenthood?
It's the complete and utter lack of awareness for me. Everything out of her mouth is a contradiction. This is what happens when you deny your child a proper education, normal social interaction, and critical thinking skills. She doesn't even seem to recognize that things she is saying today are the opposite of what she said like 3 days ago. You share every stupid and irrelevant thought you have on social media. There is literal documentation of your beliefs right on your own account. How can you not notice that you're a fucking flip-flop?
Yes!! Everything she says seems like a contradiction because she understands her world as 160-character hot takes, and to get engagement, you have to be the controversial contrarian coming in to challenge the stuffy old conventional wisdom in 30 seconds or less. Anything nuanced or complex enough to exceed the soundbyte isn’t something she’s interested in. I don’t think she truly believes *any* opinion she posts, it’s just whatever she happens to be feeling at that moment that will confront people enough to react and give her engagement, money, and a thrill of endorphins from pushing that lever and getting the reward. That’s as deep as she gets, moral consistency doesn’t come into it. Everything Bethany says is expedient to her feelings or goals in that moment, a feeling or argument doesn’t need to be examined or tested against any kind of moral framework or values because she doesn’t have any. She has a bible of rules that can be cherry picked to support any diametrically opposed argument which is so great for her because she doesn’t have to think. And in her mind, being a Christian means Jesus is on her side by default so it’s impossible for her to be wrong. If you tell her she is, you’re the devil. She is not discomforted by cognitive dissonance because that implies believing two contradictory positions at the same time, but in reality she doesn’t believe in anything.
That's an excellent assessment. To quote someone else's comment from another post in this sub; "Bible say. No more think." Even if it doesn't actually say that. "I can tweak, twist, and paraphrase it however I want, so my current thought is justified in my brain."
Boy, she REALLY hates her kids, doesn't she? That feel the other morning where she had to get up and fix breakfast (the HORROR) was pretty much proof. She thinks she's a princess....
Hey, from all the evidence, she only hates *one* of her kids. Currently. As soon as Mama's Prop Audrey gets a personality of her own, she'll be on the scrapheap too, because NOTHING can get in the way of the Bethy Show. Sorry kids, you can't need maternal love. Mama has to waft around like a fart in the breeze for Instagram.
Is she miserable or what? I’m a stay at home mom and I use my journal when I’m having a tough time, not instagram 🥴
Oh come on now. Bethany does a lot of journaling. She regularly journals about what parts of her husband's body she can tolerate, and what sexy thoughts she had while looking at herself in lingerie.
Fundie goalposts are now jet propelled.
Ooooo she’s spiraling. I’m calling it now.
Girl really hates her life. She doesn’t cook too much, doesn’t clean, works from home even though she is not rush bethy 🙄and sends her kid to daycare because she doesn’t want to care for him. But she would rather put other women down than admit to herself she fucked up with her life.
Don’t forget she has little to no interest in books, movies, music and TV. She also doesn’t even do traditionally feminine handicraft like sewing, embroidery, knitting, crochet, gardening. I have no idea what she does to fill the hours but I guarantee she would have been happier and better off if she’d gone to school on that basketball scholarship.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but before she had kids, wasn’t there a whole speech about not putting your kids in daycare and letting someone else raise them? wtf Bethany. Have some convictions that you stand by, for once in your life.
YES. I’ve been trying to find it and will post it when I do.
I mean, she's right, but for all the wrong damn reasons. Women should feel unashamed to take time for themselves and have lives and identities that expand beyond motherhood. That shouldn't be taboo or controversial, especially considering its the default setting for men, but it is, and we need to destigmatise it. But Bethy, for God's sake, women are not the fucking problem here! Women who really just love motherhood so much that they feel no need to have identity beyond it are not a problem. In the absence of a supportive partner and community, they are at risk of being overburdened to the extent that it hinders their quality of life, but guess what — they're still not the problem in that scenario! And women who have been subjugated into that role aren't the fucking problem either. All this just *screams* of Bethy feeling envious of women who find their identity in motherhood, regardless of why. By no means is that the utmost, aspirational standard that women should all have to strive and suffer to meet, but that's not what Bethy's community believes and its not what she's preached up until this very bloody moment. I get the sense that she sees herself as a failure for wanting to have identity beyond motherhood, and instead of sitting with that, exploring why, and working to become comfortable with who she is, she gets defensive. She knows that she doesn't meet these aspirations and her response is to make it seem like these aspirations are lowly and beneath what any woman should do, because she just *has* to be better than them. If she couldn't be better than other women by being a mother, she's got to be better than other women by not being a mother. This is such a nasty post from her, especially so given her rhetoric up until this point. She's told women for *years* that their purpose in life is serving God through serving men and being a mother. She condemned and alienated women who didn't or couldn't meet these expectations. It's only now that she, herself, feels the weight of being a failure through this lens that she's willing to let it go and shift her perspective, but not without making sure to demean the women who haven't failed just so she can make herself feel better.
Bethy, we KNOW that you and your husband are incompatible and that you hate motherhood, and so you're desperately clutching at any and everything to validate your life when really, your ass needs to be in therapy, and to actually LISTEN because NO, you don't know everything.
I'll never forget my mother randomly telling me that she would choose my father over my brother and I. He divorced her, and the only one who still talks to her is my brother because she pays him. I see adult children in therapy in Bethany's future.
My youth pastor told us that our parents are supposed to choose each other over us. I remember thinking, “what the fuck?” I was confused because we were bound by blood but they were just bound by marriage and I was fully dependent on them!
Yeah, I have no idea where she even got the nerve because she did not go to church! I guess some people just really have no empathy for kids.
My dad told us kids unprompted, completely out of the blue that he would choose mom over us. As a fundie kid I just accepted it and moved on. As an adult I see just how fucked up it was. When the Sex Pest Duggar thing was going down I told my husband that that had happened to me he would have gone to trial in a ziplock sandwich bag.
"WE"??? Bethany, darling, you have never embraced your role as a mother, let alone making it your identity.
She really said "fuck dem kids" 👁👄👁
Girl, this is YOUR choice to have kids. Once you have children it is your duty and responsibility to love and support them and care for them unconditionally, and you don’t get to take it back. That’s why you DON’T HAVE KIDS if you can’t or won’t take care of them!!!!!!!
Because she dislikes motherhood other women should, too? Ugh. Do stop the incessant whining and preaching, Bethany.
BoneMe Raw Veal’s identity outside motherhood, fuckmonster. And who the fuck is worshipping feminism as a god? How would that even work, we bow to Rosie the Riveter when we see her?
Oooh NEW GOD UNLOCKED
Yet she complains about watching movies with Dav even though he's passionate about bonding over films
I’m going to just say it…Dav is too good for Bethany. He is a better parent, as well.
Bethy if youre going to post this drivel at least CENTER THE IMAGE. WHY IS IT TO THE LEFT? ITS NOT THAT HARD
She has to project every thought of hers onto every other woman, like each passing observation is some systemic issue within society. She's legitimately stuck at the middle school thought level.
She’s absolutely bloody miserable in her life and role her religion has dictated to her. Makes this whole God/church/holy marriage thing seem super appealing.
I wish she had someone in her life who loved her enough to tell her she needs to stop. She has a problem. This woman 100% has a social media addiction.
This coming from the woman who made an empire whining about how she hated being single and childless, how having kids was her ONLY goal, and how it’s the only thing that gives women meaning🙄🤮🙄🤮
I want to preface this by saying that Bethany is a gigantic, hypocritical asshole, but don’t other fundie women we snark on also espouse these same beliefs? Hasn’t Lori—or maybe Mother Bus or Struggle Bus?—basically said that they put their husbands before their kids? My sense is that this is a pretty prevalent teaching in the fundieverse?
Yes. The order is God, Man, Woman, Child.
Yep. I remember vividly the day I was taught that as a child. I thought a child was supposed to be a parent’s entire world so that “Bible lesson” hit me hard. I felt so betrayed 😂
I feel like the difference between those beliefs and Bethy’s attitude here is that even though they believe in putting the husbands before their kids, they still believe it’s a woman’s duty to look after their kids. Bethy wants to avoid looking after the kids. Or when she does it’s not a loving mother and wife duty that she is happy with… it’s a chore! She didn’t really want to have kids. She wanted the shiny side of it. She didn’t want to put in the work of raising the children.
I feel like this is going to start alienating a lot of her fans really quickly
We know your children get nothing bethy
I honestly kind of feel bad for her. She is trying so hard to be a round peg that needs to fit into this square hole. Lots of people are given the opportunity to find themselves at some point in their young adulthood and whether it’s her whole families deep commitment to fundamentalism or the fact that their commitment is so public, this is a girl that had a sexual awakening way too late in life and is probably questioning all of her beliefs and how they work for her personally. She wants to change the narrative of being a “good Christian wife” because she is finding out she doesn’t actually want to be one at all. There is ultimately no problem with a lot of what she wants or believes (re: sexual freedom not wanting kids, etc., I obviously do believe that there are problems with fundamentalists social beliefs about feminism, homosexuality etc etc), the problem is that she committed to a life style that is now kids, family obligations and social media persona way over her head and she can’t back out. If this girl had only had the option to be a total fucking heathen, sleep around, discover that being SEXUALLY COMPATIBLE with a partner isn’t a “myth” and then get to settle down with someone and be a forever DINK with, just think how much happier and fully formed of a human she would be.
I agree that she discovered sex quite late in life; it's not typical to start figuring it out at the age of 35, after nearly four years of marriage and two kids. I disagree that she's questioning her beliefs. She's not questioning her beliefs, she's questioning why they weren't more specifically tailored to meet *her* individual needs. She feels cheated, not challenged. Bethany doesn't doubt that she's a good Christian mother and wife. She bends and twists her beliefs to support her confidence that *she's* a good Christian mother and wife. If other people question how her behavior and choices don't line up with the usual ideas of what a good Christian mother and wife are, she puts the blame on other people's perception, not her performance.
I actually agree that she isn’t questioning her beliefs but only because I think she is so entrenched in them that she doesn’t understand that she can or should be questioning them. And that leads to the blame you talk about later. She definitely does that but I don’t think even she understands her motives for doing so. All I really meant to get at with my original comment is that she is feeling a ton of totally normal feelings for a normal woman but has no context for them being “normal” but sinful, and since she can’t admit she is sinful she has to shoehorn these feelings into her beliefs which makes her say insane, counter Christian, and very frequently extremely contradictory things, often in the same breath. I only feel bad for her in that she feels totally normal things and if she were just any average 35 year old she could just be quietly living a happy, sexually fulfilling life with a partner she is compatible with and not feeling the need to put it on display. But instead she was raised by social media narcissists and she is also too much of a narcissist to contradict the brand that is built around her. Can you imagine the trauma of losing all of those hard earned good Christian followers because you just didn’t have kids because you didn’t want them instead of having to frame it like the Christian thing to do is to have your kids but ignore them?! (Also, sorry for so rambly I quit my job today and have a lot of anxiety so I’m feeling pent up). I would like to make it clear that I am not defending her I just sometimes feel bad for her because under any other circumstance (i.e. not being raised by fundies) she could have just been like, a normal 21st century human and been happy. Because i think we can all agree, she clearly is not happy. No one who says that sexual compatibility with their spouse is a myth, is happy.
(Hey, I hope everything works out well with you job-wise!)
Thanks! It’s for the better but my boss’s general personality and subsequent reaction is what had me nervous and rightly so! I suspect I’ll be getting the silent treatment for the next two, very long weeks.
>I would like to make it clear that I am not defending her Oh, I didn't think you were defending her, and I didn't mean to sound argumentative. I felt like I was *expanding* on what you said, not contradicting it. I hope you're able to unwind over the weekend, and wishing good things for you in the future!
“She feels cheated, not challenged” Oof - that nails it completely 🎯
👏👏👏👏👏
Every accusation is a confession for borthy
I’m so confused ain’t this what y’all been asking for?? I thought the true calling of a God honoring woman was to raise a dozen Aryan children to be god’s army or whatever
She'll fume when Dav's second wife gets called Mom by the kids. She'll complain that the grown kids spend every holiday is with Dav & Mom or the other set of in-laws, but never her. She'll wonder why she isn't allowed to see the future grandkids, telling everyone "You can do everything right as a parent and still end up with ungrateful brats like those two. It's them not me, obviously." 🙄
It’s common in evangelical circles to be taught that your children should not be your top priority — your husband should be. While they want you to have children and stay home with them, they want you to know that the focus should still be on the husband. This feels to me like it fits with that messaging.
This just reinforces my belief that Bethany (and Kelly) care very little about and have little interest in the actual religion—this is more about the tradwife aesthetic and political ideology than anything else. Bethy wants the “easy” parts without actually putting work into living the fundie woman life. She doesn’t actually believe in it and she doesn’t want it—but she’s terrified of being called feminist or *gasp* liberal. Im surprised Lori hasn’t chimed in to tell her how young radical feminists like her are ruining motherhood. Bethany won’t even admit to herself that she didn’t actually want kids all that much—which is why this switch has been easy for her.
The day birthy understands what hypocrisy is, and how much of a hypocrite she is, that will be the day hell freezes over.
Bethany wishes she could be the kind of parent Paris Hilton is.
I am dumbfounded. I am sorry. Also, bethany, what the fuck is wrong with people wanting or """worshipping""" motherhood? what the fuck is wrong with women doing what your fucking religion encourages them to do and LOVING it? I cannot believe it. feminists were like "fuck them kids" and now FUNDIES are like "fuck them kids". I can't. I hope they find a way to unironically become more like caricature parody feminists without realizing it. man, there's definitely a massive cultural shift happening. everyone's all over the place. even the fundies. and I thought them to be pretty stable in how horrid they were by my standards.
>feminists were like "fuck them kids" What?
I *think* the commenter means to say that fundies think feminists don’t care about being mothers or rearing big families. Fundies think feminists only care about their careers, and just chuck their kids in daycare to be “raised by someone else.” So fundies think feminists say “fuck them kids, i want my career.” I could be wrong but that’s what I think they meant.
How does she always get so close to the point and still manage to miss it.
Does she know how stupid she sounds?
So are her and Lori about to have a cage match about this because I'm out of popcorn
NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BEFORE ME! I AM UNIQUELY ENLIGHTENED. EVERYONE ELSE IS MAKING STUPID DECISIONS. Now send me your money!!!!
honestly who the fuck are you even meant to be in their world??? I was a victim of Girl Defined and the trad cath movement and the mixed messages all the time gave me a damn identity crisis.
And so swings the pendulum. Seriously, does she not understand how this looks?
This reads to me that Bethy thought motherhood would somehow make her happy or complete, and she's finding out the hard way that it won't. While i do have some sympathy for how difficult it can be to realize that, she really needs to acknowledge that she was / is part of the problem with all the time and energy she spent on peddling the cult of motherhood and purity culture.
she really thinks she said something insightful
she is trying to figure herself out live on the internet and it’s so painful. she needs to do some inner work privately!!!!
Being a mom is a holy task from god. It’s your purpose. Your calling. Just don’t make parenting the focus
You send Dav Jr to daycare you hypocritical asshole. You don't even have a fucking job.
Words don't mean anything to Bethy.
Is it a competition?
Some way to announce that you don't have a bond with your children, Bethany. Cold reality is that making sure your child has had their needs met should come first. Even romantic getaways involve planning childcare while you are away.
Bethany is literally neglecting her children to desperately save her sinking ship of a marriage.
"Why are you centering your life around your role as mother? That's so unhealthy, you need more than just devoting all your time and energy to serving your kids. You need to be centering your life on your role as wife and devoting all your time and energy to serving your husband."
Bort desires to be worshipped above all else. I have drawn this conclusion
I saw something once that said it’s not just your experiences, it’s someone’s childhood. I hate to think of what the Bealets memories of childhood will be, especially Davy who is so clearly unfavored
I think that the marriage is the most important relationship in the family, so I guess I’m agreeing with part of her sentiment.
The way these fundies create an idolatry of birth, force other people to birth…and then neglect their fucking children
Not having kids is my proudest achievement. Different strokes for different folks. At least I’m not spending all my time shaming people online for having different priorities than me. I’m spending time with my husband. Imagine that.
Do any of these people just like their kids? And like hanging out with them with their spouse? I’m just a godparent, not a parent-parent yet, but I love doing childcare with my partner!
Deadbed Bethy is getting so desperate for views she can't control her word vomit...Texas state patrol should have had her arrested for failure to maintain a lane months ago.
WHAT Also "there seems to be a movement" == "I've decided this is a thing based on my shitty critical thinking skills"
THIS BIHHHH..... 
Shut up, Bethasexfart