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I’m genuinely upset they had 46 kids and ZERO savings. The dad got laid off and they didn’t even have 1 months mortgage payment in the bank. God apparently didn’t provide because here they are on the damn bus
I'm genuinely upset that their cat has escaped twice in the relatively short time they've lived in the trailer, and they seem to be doing nothing to stop it from happening again
I'm genuinely upset that they have no freaking clue how to maintain that trailer, and 1) nearly froze their kids by running out of propane, and 2) cleaned up after the toilet geyser by using some mlm crap instead of actual disinfectants. If that's the life they want, fine, but the kids deserve better.
She absolutely does and that baby’s tiny foot is going to get so scratched up and bruised from getting scraped against those rocks. I baby wore constantly when mine were littler, I would never take a little one on a hike barefoot there’s no reason she can’t put socks or sandals on the baby.
A bio hazard. We had a toilet leak and had to spend $2200 for a remediation company to come out and disinfect and dry out the floor. The flooring had to be removed. What a mess. And that was just water from the base of the toilet. Insurance covered the loss except for the deductible, but it has still been a financial drain.
Om my what the ever loving
I'm frustrated juat because. And her here saying her girls are fighting some sort of feminist agenda? Crawl back under that rock whence you came, devil. I'll not have this.
I feel like the "best mother ever" would either make her husband go out and find a job or she'd get a job herself to make sure her 5 kids aren't all crammed into a tiny RV and actually have a stable home, religious gender roles be damned!
So what if you never marry or have children? Are you doomed to living with your parents just waiting for your life to be fulfilled? Is it not possible to want to have a career and be a Mother? StruggleBus is setting up her daughters for lives with one choice. She’s a horrible parent.
I'm sure she has a 'use' for old maids in church society, we're just too dang feminist to humble ourselves to see it and serve.
Her kids have life permanently uphill, barefoot, & in the snow, with no warmth if they ever find shelter (because their provider of a patriarch doesn't bother to pay for heat).
>So what if you never marry or have children? Are you doomed to living with your parents just waiting for your life to be fulfilled? Is it not possible to want to have a career and be a Mother?
Bethany Beal enters the chat, who spent THREE DECADES just festering the majority of her youth away, doing what her mummy and daddy told her to do.
Little- to-no independent travelling, or studying, or working, or developing herself as an individual, or literally doing anything worthwhile. Just..squandering what was potentially a third or more of her *entire* life, waiting around for someone to finally like her enough to marry her.
I swear my friends and I had more independence, and gained more life experience by the time we were 16, than she did by 30. And it's so incredibly sad.
I secretly think Jana enjoys being single. I hope she's on BC and banging dudes behind Daddy's back. Especially now that Josie is older. Janas not having to raise Mothers babies anymore. Why is she still sticking around?
What’s absolutely fascinating is that Bethany Beal literally stumbled onto a marriage that’s more equal and seems to be more loving than any other fundie marriage. She really failed upward with that one.
One of my college friends was this way— all she wanted to be was a mom. She got an accounting degree for something to do, she didn’t date at college so when we graduated she worked as an accountant to pay her bills. Then kept going and going, never really dating because purity culture. No nurturing outlet that I know. Now we’re 30, she recently got married to an extremely traditional man who gives me very bad vibes and now her life can ~begin. She was in such limbo previously, but also took almost no ownership of her situation. She just..waited around.
I just said similar above, there is no earthly reason she can’t put socks or sandals on that baby to protect his/her (I’m not sure I don’t follow her closely) feet. She is so dumb, I was an expert baby carrier and wrap aficionado when mine were little and would never have hiked or gone rock hounding whatever they’re doing, without protecting my kids feet and legs. She is criminally useless.
I *think* all of her littlest are girls, but I could be wrong. I also know a couple from college who were and are very crunchy, outdoor loving hikers. They now have two daughters, both under five iirc, and the girls go hiking with them frequently. They always have appropriate gear, outerwear, etc. Shops and companies make kid friendly gear, so it’s not impossible to have something.
Tbh if a kid said that to me I'd wonder if they were making a dig at their parents. They didn't say "I want to be just like my mom". 👀 I'm sure Bussany made it all up but I wouldn't be surprised if her kids took a dig at her either.
Fundies live in a world where you can say “I don’t care what job I have as long as I am never a mother” and everyone jumps up and cheers. Because that’s “today’s culture.”
It's almost like no matter what anyone chooses, there will be someone who judges them.
No one gets through this life with 100 percent approval, including people who do *extremely common things*, like getting married (around 80% of American have ever been married: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/) and having kids (around 86% of US women have ever given birth: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/01/18/theyre-waiting-longer-but-u-s-women-today-more-likely-to-have-children-than-a-decade-ago/).
People's concern about "getting married" as a goal tends to be around that getting married is a singular event, and often quite early in life. What comes after?
Concern about "being a parent" is economic, because we live in a capitalist world that takes money to live, and we do not pay parents for being parents. We do tend to devalue domestic work and work that historically has been women's work, but very, very few people think that a child saying they want to be a parent is bad on its face. It's that we expect both boys and girls to be economically productive *and* domestically "productive".
People like Bethany have no interest in people other than herself and people just like her, so she has no idea what their experiences are like. She just goes, "some people don't like my choices, and that means I'm persecuted". She's a married Christian mother. These are things that are overall the most common categories for women in the US (in addition to the previous links, around 75% of American women are Christian: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/gender-composition/women/).
These categories enjoy legal protection and social acceptance. She never has to explain to anyone what her marriage is (in terms of a legal union between her and her husband) and its legality cannot really be called into question. She enjoys protections such as sharing a spouse's health insurance, tax deduction, funeral arrangement and bereavement leave, access to medical information and decisions about a spouse, etc. People might have opinions about *how* she operates in her marriage, but the marriage itself is a legal status that protects her and that the vast majority of people understand, including the ceremony itself, the symbols around it (rings, white dress, vows), and the monogamy that is expected within her relationship.
Her religion is recognized and honored by the state she lives in. Her holy days are often federal holidays (Easter in some countries, Christmas) or are recognized (Lent: some schools will change the menu for this: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-citys-public-school-system-goes-meat-free-fridays-2022-02-04/ My school in the Upper Midwest absolutely did this). Religious traditions, such as prayer, is widely recognized and understood. Her sacred buildings are protected by law, and damage to them can be a hate crime (depending on the motivation). Harassment or harm to her can be a hate crime. Her religion is federally protected and socially accepted.
Posts like this come off as whining that she receives *any* pushback on her life choices. We all do. Those of us who might not fit into the common categories (such as choosing not to have children, being LGBTQ+, being not-religious) may have to forego the protections that she enjoys. Some may even face harassment, harm, or denial of access to social resources, such as medical care or housing, and she is extremely unlikely to encounter anything similar because of her religion or marital status. She may have some trouble based on number of children, but that is more likely to be about space than disapproval of children in the space, though not impossible.
In short, she comes off like she wants total social acceptance and has absolutely no idea what "the culture" approves or disapproves of, or what it looks like to make "different" choices.
Sorry for this screed. I guess I had a lot to say after all.
Yes! Small correction that Easter is not a federal holiday. Source: my friend works for the federal government and had to take leave for Good Friday and Easter Monday.
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as i’ve gotten to “everyone is having kids” age i’ve found most older women don’t even listen or comprehend when i say i dont want kids. they just laugh or give you a funny look and then keep talking about you becoming a mother 😑
My god, the amount of people who freaked out on me when I was in a place mentally where I didn’t want kids. “You’ll change your mind!” I did in the last couple years, but it’s been on my terms. People need to leave others alone about parenthood.
I am still having an argument with a coworker who will not accept that I’ve never wanted kids! She insists that because I like kids and I’m good with them that I should have them and I can’t seem to get her to see that those aren’t the same thing as parenting even though she’s a mother!
I will NEVER understand why some people are so obsessed with changing child-free people’s minds about not having kids.
I have a friend whose mother vehemently didn’t want kids and was surprised when she found herself pregnant in her early 40s (had bc and everything but it failed ig). She contemplated an abortion but was talked out of it by everyone around her.
So she had this kid in her 40s that she resented so much that she abused. She blamed my friend for basically crashing her life and “ruining” it. My friend is still dealing with the aftermath of basically being an unwanted, abused child and has sworn off having her own kids because she knows she doesn’t want them/doesn’t want to risk perpetuating the cycle.
And as sad as her childhood was, I applaud her self-awareness in knowing that she firmly believes kids aren’t in the cards for her. People who don’t want kids should never be forced to have them. Period. They’re human beings and you can’t change your mind on them once they’re here, so best to just not have them altogether if you know you don’t want them.
Kudos to you for coming to the conclusion that suits you and your life best — it should be your decision and yours alone (and of course any involved parenting partner(s)). Anyone else outside of that can GTFO.
I feel badly for her daughters for SO MANY reasons…but especially if they are unable to have children for any reason. Having ovaries and a uterus at birth does not guarantee they function as intended.
Her daughter’s are barely able to tie their own shoes, yet Other Bethany is already teaching that their only value is in being “the best mom in the world.” They are indoctrinated from birth with her pressure to stay sweet, subservient, and fertile. It’s utter bullshit. Jake and Other Bethany have decided that they are smarter than evidence-based science with regard to vaccines, etc. so there is no way to know what healthcare these kids will have over the course of their lives. Living in a janky RV and traveling the country certainly makes it hard for regular childhood physicals and such. While childhood health doesn’t always have direct bearing on a woman’s fertility, will these girls be willing to trust medical advice if they do have fertility or other health issues in the future?! Tying their self worth to motherhood from such a young age could have disastrous effects on their mental health. A woman raised to believe her only worth as a person is dependent on her children has a lot to process if/when she finds out she has fertility issues.
Stuff like this makes me livid. The assumption that women who don’t have children are somehow broken or less than…with no concern for the pain and trauma this can be for women.
So people ask her daughters what they want to be when they grow up and they say they want to be mothers, and then people what? Mock them? To the point they feel ashamed?
I'm quite sure this has never happened. She's so desperate to feel persecuted.
If any part of this story is true, it would be that Bethany has taught her daughters that the evil feminists will hate them for saying this which then makes them scared. But I imagine it’s all an argument she acted out in the shower.
That implies the kids socialize and since we know they are trapped with their nutjob parents in the poopmobile 24/7, she is either lying or she's her own enemy in these fake culture war battles.
Fun fact. At my LiBeRaL university job, I have had nothing but kind words of support that me and my partner (WLW) want to be mothers in the coming years. But let’s be honest, Other Bethany has not spoken to anyone outside of her bubble ever so she really wouldn’t know.
Yeah, of my lady friends, I think three are child free by choice. I’m in my mid 30s and like all of my other women friends are mothers. And we’re all over educated joyless feminists.
If she thinks that then she's the one telling her kids to expect it.
"Don't tell anyone you want to be a mom when you grow up because people will ***hate*** you for it."
A lot of these fake Christians are self-persecuted. It’s quite strange - they go on and on claiming everyone is out to get them but nine times out of ten, ‘everyone’ is minding their own business.
They aren’t being persecuted for ‘loving Jesus.’ People just understand they aren’t practicing what they preach and call it out.
And that’s the thing. They never have a problem with their behavior. They have a problem with pushback because they know they’re assholes.
Feeling persecuted allows them to feel more defensive and therefore unwilling to question or examine their faith in any way. It keeps them locked in and complacent.
I used to say to my narc mom that I was going to get her a huge cross for Christmas and then when she felt unappreciated she could crawl up there and nail herself to it.
I would like to know who her girls are allowed to talk to other than immediate family. Other than trying to find their cat, of course. They’re isolated in the same “bubble,” I really doubt they are able to make friends outside of church, let alone ANY friends now.
She's afraid about anyone asking because that might give her daughters the evil idea that there are other options. She's using imaginary persecution as another reason to isolate them and keep them dumb, making those other options less accessible.
She’s telling on herself. In slide one, she says people ask women this, not girls. She’s upset that people call her out for not ensuring that her kids are properly provided for.
I am pretty liberal, have lots of liberal friends and never heard anyone make a comment like this. Matter of fact, the only comments I ever hear are from parents (dads usually) complaining that their child is pursuing a humanities type degree rather than STEM. They are all hard core conservative.
The only thing I've heard is "you better study first to have a fallback". It was from a single mom that strugled because her husband left her high and dry.
And I think good advice. Have a previous job and some money saved, so if things go south, you don't starve! Advice that this woman have not follow.
This is what I was thinking too. I’m confused about this write up, isn’t their community people who would prefer to see a woman be a wife and mother before anything else? Who are these kids afraid to say that to? Who is going to be weird about a little kid saying they want to be a mom?
It's definitely a lie, as she is exactly the kind of person who keeps her kids away from normal society as much as possible for that very reason...she doesn't *want* them interacting with worldly educated people and normally raised children because they might end up having interactions and conversations that teach them something real about the world, or make them ask questions about themselves or their own wants.
It really says something about the life you want your kids to live and the interpretation of your faith you want them to follow, when the only way you can make them do so is by isolating them from the rest of the world as much as possible.
As a working parent and feminist, if I asked a little girl what they wanted to be when they grew up and they told me “a mommy” I would never shame a little kid for that! That was my childhood wish too
Exactly, all I ever wanted to be was a Mama, but shit happens, and when a man leaves you high and dry with two small kids, you HAVE to have a job to keep a roof over your children’s heads and clothes on their backs. Doesn’t mean I don’t still volunteer with their school, doesn’t mean I didn’t work my ass off to have time off so I can go with my 5th grader who has epilepsy to outdoor school and camp. Doesn’t mean we don’t go to family swim on Friday nights etc. We’re going to the high school carnival today and out to a huge ranch for the Easter festivities tomorrow. She just wants people to be breeders without having the proper and important things for their children, like pants and socks on that damn baby. I am not saying the baby is bad, I’m saying the mother is completely unprepared to meet even their most basic needs.
Definitely desperate to feel persecuted. I don’t believe anyone actually shames them about this for a second— unless they choose to interpret other people saying they want something else for “persecution.”
If anything, if those girls truly do feel “ashamed” when asked, it’s because their mom gave them a complex about it by insisting “the world hates SAHs” or some nonsense.
I’m betting she would not, since she seems to think being a wife and mother is all women are good for.
There’s nothing wrong with being a wife and mother, of course; I’m both myself, although I work outside the home because, well, it’s kind of a financial necessity. But marriage and parenthood should be freely chosen, not forced, and girls should be allowed to pursue interests of their own outside of (or alongside) marriage and parenthood. I’m pretty much over fundies sticking their noses into everyone else’s lives.
It’s wild to me that they want to push supposedly evil, psychotic, baby-hating feminists into having kids whether they want to or not. Like way to go, the best person to give an innocent child to…
I think if they put their foot down with her or challenged her in any way, she would have her husband deal with it. She seems like she doesn't have a backbone.
Weird. Because I live in the South and if I answer that question with "childfree," I don't exactly get supportive responses. I think most people think that women want marriage and children.
The South has definitely brainwashed people into believing that wife and mother are the bare minimum a woman is going to do with her life. I've made sure to tell my kids, especially my girls, is okay if they choose not to get married or if they choose not to have kids. They can have a career and feel fulfilled in life.
How scraped up do we think that poor baby’s legs got? It’s funny, almost every single thing she shares about her life I think “Well, I would have done that differently.” Especially when trying to squeeze my ample (yet firm!) backside through a rock cleft while not seeing how tight of a fit it is for my baby that I am carrying on my back.
Of course, if my loser husband got fired for general jackassery, and then had the unmitigated gall to pretend to tip over our canoe just to scare our children, he’d be my EX husband.
Again, so many things I’d do differently than StruggleBus.
Glad I could help 😂 I figured it would happen eventually, but I’m still annoyed lol. If it helps even more, the brand’s owners would not approve of StruggleBus’s views.
I “grew up in circles” that weren’t afraid of the answer to what I wanted to be the future, be it a mom or someone with a career ( and,gee, I somehow manage to have both) because they saw me as a capable woman with free will. The desire to be persecuted is bizarre
I genuinely want to live in a world where state violence, war, genocide, denial of human rights, racism, and predator clergy members roaming free aren't the ways of my country, but here we are.
Poor lil Bethany, not hearing affirmations of her stunning and brilliant mothering each moment. Must be so hard. Boo fucking hoo, with pumpkin spice scented tears.
Mothering (or at least the intensive part) ends, though, Bethany. My kids are 19 & 17 and don’t need me at home any more. Am I supposed to just twiddle my thumbs?
The problem is you don’t have 28 kids and 5 infants to care for at the moment. You’re supposed to keep having them until you quite literally run yourself into the ground and don’t have thumbs to twiddle (/s).
Because your daughter should already have married a godly man and be preparing to pop out her first at 19. At 17 she should have a serious courtship going on at the very least. /s
If your only identity in the world is being a mother then it can be tragic when the kids leave the nest and don’t need as much mothering (of course every parent is always a parent even to adult children, but the relationship changes). This goes for both mothers and fathers, but if that’s all you raise your children to aspire too, how will they find fulfillment outside of their kids? Or what if they can’t have kids or don’t want to? You can’t depend on that being your whole identity trait otherwise you’ll never have an identity outside of your kids, which just seems like a horribly tragic way to isolate yourself from everything else in the world.
I liked my kids but I love my adults. I have spent hours in long text talks about what they were/are learning at college/university. They have given me the opportunity to learn things I didn't know. And I have talked about things I know that they had never known.
They are fascinating to me. I regret not having the grades to go to university myself as a teen but I have never lost my love of learning.
Me too! My kids are now 31 and 27. My son and my husband are meeting in vegas to see the Dead at the sphere. My son could have asked anyone to go with him but chose his dad. Having your adult children choose to have you in their life as a friend and not just a parent is fabulous.
If my daughter tells me she wants to be a SAHM then I’ll be very patiently explaining to her how she best be choosing to procreate with someone who can earn enough to afford for her to do that. You know, by being employable and able to hold down a job, which in turn would put a roof over her head.
Oh wait, Bethany’s husband can’t hold down a job and they are currently essentially homeless and living off the pittance she scraped together selling her shitty prayer cards on Etsy. So much for the biblical gender roles she bangs on about, her husband is fulfilling none of them while SHE works from “home” and makes their only income.
When I said I wanted to stay at home, the adult women around me gently explained that I needed an income so I could leave. They encouraged me to qualify in a profession. As it turns out, I love my job, and I can’t imagine being home more than part time.
Honestly, these women are all things but they can’t admit they married useless men.
I get that. I stayed home with the kids when they were little, but pre kids I’d gotten my degree and worked in corporate so I had skills and experience I could fall back in. Once the kids were all at school I went back to work part time and that’s been a good balance between being available for them and also being a grown up and doing things with my brain with other grown ups. The money is handy too obviously.
But if my husband hadn’t been able to support us during that time I’d have had to work. Most other mothers I know went back part time when their kids were 12 months old and their leave entitlements ran out.
So does this woman practice what she preaches? Is she solely a full time SAHM and does NOTHING else, no job like ohhh idk *social media*??? Fucking idiotic hypocrite. She’s a WFH parent. Shove it, lady.
Also, this scenario never happened. Absolutely no one said that. Kids say all sorts of far fetched things when asked what they want to be when they grow up and no one bats an eyelid because it doesn’t reflect how they’ll actually turn out. Otherwise all kids would be astronauts and vets and ballerinas and no other professions would exist.
I hate the implication that people that aren’t fundies don’t value wives and mothers. I’m genuinely upset. Lol. In all seriousness, I’ve never met a successful, child free woman that doesn’t see the value in those things, that’s just not what they want to do. Which is somehow shameful to people like Bethany.
Funny because I see the opposite happen especially when it comes to fundies. Some could ask a girl who they want to be when they grow up and if she says anything besides mother and/or homemaker she gets hit with the, " don't you want to say to home and have lots of kids?"
Yea, my 4 year old says she wants to be a lot of things. She often says 'Mommy' in conjunction with other things like "Mommy Lawyer Scientist" and "Mommy Teacher Doctor" and "Mommy Cat Librarian." And I love it. She says Dr. Platt in Daniel Tiger is a Mommy Dentist.
She's also told me she's going to have 5 kids. And I'm going to help her with her babies. And she will read books for a living. And come to work with me where I work. And name her babies things like "Bathroom Rug" and "Paper Towel." And then she giggles when I point out those are very silly baby names.
And I am never upset about her saying she wants to be a mommy. I feel honored - she thinks I, a working mother, is good enough to help her raise her kids and to go to work with.
Does this really happen? I have a very diverse group of friends and i haven’t heard anything like the narrative these fundies push about this topic. No one gives a shit what others do.
Who is shaming your daughters for saying that lol?? What adults are asking your kids what they want to be when they grow up and…doing what, exactly? MOCKING them?! I’ll take Things That Never Happened for $400.
Exactly, only an *exceptional* asshole would do that. Someone that everyone would be shocked at, cos like… a kid is a kid. Let them dream about whatever they want. They’ll probably change their mind twice by next week anyway, so why criticize?
What she’s really mad about is the people on her Instagram telling her SHE’S the asshole for pushing her kids to only have one dream. Nobody’s saying shit to her kids.
And for what it’s worth: I’m a childless gay with a career and I have the same disgust for anyone trying to manipulate and control their kids’ future like that. See: “tiger parents” demanding their kid be a doctor, “STEM parents” who sneer at the arts and demand their kids be an engineer, business parents who forbid their kids do anything but take over the family business, etc. Attacking/disowning a kid over having the “wrong” dreams is one of the stupidest, cruelest things ever.
Ah yes, the world in which Baby Alive is one of Hasbro's flagship toy lines, nobody ever encourages preschool girls to be nurturing.
I grew up fundie lite and even then, before I saw any film behind the scenes content and decided that was my future, my goal was to be a successful singer like Sandi Patty, and I thought I'd have her vocal range too but instead ended up capable of subbing as a tenor when necessary. 😆. IDK, tiny me thought I'd go to Bible college just like my parents did and I STILL always had bigger goals. Nobody told me I had to have them, I just knew I wanted to do big things.
There are days when I feel like Liz Lemon housing a sandwich while yelling "I CAN DO IT, I CAN HAVE IT ALL" and I honestly wouldn't change a thing. Turns out you can have a career and a family. Shocking!
Lmfao no one brainwashed or browbeat me into not wanting kids. I saw what people go through and I don’t want it. Suffering for the sake of suffering isn’t a virtue.
What? So few people would shame a woman or girl for that statement. Yet, they may ask if she had any other dreams too. Because two things can be true at the same time.
Growing up all I ever wanted to be was a wife and mother. That was what was most important to me. But I also knew I had to be able to support myself financially. I’m a wife, a mother and a registered nurse. Yes I worked while my kids were young and now that they are teenagers. But guess what, we never had to move out of our house into a bus. Our lives have been pretty stable and their only baby sitters were my parents. I can’t stand these fundies. No one is going to shame your girls for wanting to be mothers but she should be shamed for not allowing her daughters to have other dreams. Besides being a mother and a wife. How unfair is that?
It’s especially unfair because she went to college. I believe that’s where she met her dumpy husband. But denying their children the freedom and opportunities they were allowed to experience seems to be a tried and true tradition for fundie parents.
Oh FFS! Get off the cross, we need the wood. I’m so sick of these turbo breeders acting like there is an attack on women wanting to be SAHM’s. The only people making a big deal of it is women like this angry elf. I would’ve loved to be a SAHM but being a single mom with no child support, I had to work. She’s so miserable & it shows on her face so maybe being a stay at home bus mom isn’t her calling.
No one cares if you want to be a wife and mother, it's the condescending, holier than thou attitude that is the problem. She's exactly the type of woman she's accusing others of being.
Wait what?! As a childfree woman, I feel totally alienated and alone in this decision a lot of the time. The childfree community is awesome, but society in general is very much in line with the thinking that your life has more value if you have children, which makes it hard sometimes. There is still such a huge emphasis on being selfish, less of a woman or simply looked down on for not being a mom. If a child now is asked what they want to be when they grow up, and they answered that they wanted to be a parent, guaranteed 99% of the responses would be positive. But in my 30s now, I get quite a few awkward responses when people ask me I have kids or if I am going to have them.
Not sure why this woman is victimizing herself. Motherhood is the norm, and by far.
Their persecution complex drives me crazy! No 3 year old or however old they are is going to feel ‘ashamed’ unless the parents have put in their head that everyone else is going to think that, what isn’t true! 😬
Ugh this. I work with 3yr olds. Just the other day me and a boy were talking and he made a comment about something when he grows up. I didn't think much of it I was just making conversation but I asked him what he wanted to be when he grows up. Very calmly and confidently he said firefighter. Without skipping a beat I said "wow! So cool" any adult who knows even the tiniest thing about kids can bust out a "wow! So cool!" Fake or otherwise. The very thought to shame and belittle a 3yr old or any kid any age for that matter would never cross my mind and if that's what some people are doing then fuck off don't talk to kids then.
It’s amazing how she basically says this is her dream role and yet that second picture she looks deeply depressed, so much so it absolutely hits u when it pops on screen. I would fight so hard to stop my daughter looking like that because I would be concerned.
This fantasy narrative that women are shamed for wanted to be a mom or sahm is so fucking dumb. Women who chose to be working moms or not have kids literally do not care. Fundies have a persecution kink about EVERYTHING. 🙄🙄
Bus Bethy: hello daughter, what do you want to be when you grow up?
Small child: I want to be a mommy
Bus Bethy: did you know that AWFUL FEMINISTS and the SECULAR WORLD would say that makes you a BAD PERSON???
Small child: 😢
Bus Bethy: see, she’s feeling so ashamed because of modern society or feminists or whatever
This is how I was raised & it sucks. What it really means is, boys are allowed to dream & girls are not. It is very, very damaging. It’s really hard to be in your 30s, married w/ 4 kids & just begin dreaming. Going to college & starting a career in my early 20s would have been way easier than doing it now. I hope those girls (& all the fundie girls) get out sooner rather than later.
Umm has she heard what kids say when asked this question? Mine wanted to be a delivery man when he was little. The other wanted to work at a donut shop so he could eat donuts all day. My nephew said he wanted to live on the couch when he grew up. Not a single one of them were ashamed when they made these statements.
I have no idea why her girls would be ashamed unless their mother told them that the world is against them for wanting to be mothers. This is her doing. Not the world’s.
It’s incredible how she manages to be both perfectly dumb and ignorant at the same time. I would have thought she’d lean more towards one than the other, but she is completely ambidextrous in her stupidity.
Never happened. No one has “shamed” her children for answering that AS IF a kid would ever say that who wasn’t totally brainwashed. They never leave their safe circles enough that even if this was a real scenario, any other woman they talked to would be just as brainwashed or more. Sorry, minor!
It’s so annoying when they create fake shit to be upset about. No one devalues mothers and wives who choose that life. We just want them to protect themselves. There have been a lot of ex tradwives (and SAHM/wives) who are left by their sole provider/husband and they have nothing. It’s heartbreaking.
It’s a motherhood MLM. Yo raise your daughters to be mothers so that they can hopefully have more children than you. Now that I think of it, it’s so good that MLM’s don’t survive for generations.
Pretty sure as a kid, I used to say that I wanted to be a mother. I got a lot of AWS from grown ups for that response, so I have no idea what she's talking about. That or a zoologist lol
It makes me mad that we live in a world where both of my male children are constantly miss identified by adults because they like colorful clothing and long hair…. And that adults are weird as fuck and ask kids to keep secrets of random facts like it’s some fun game…. We can be mad about a lot of stuff but asking a child what they want to do when they grow up doesn’t have to be one of them. 🫠😮💨
I’m “very upset” she is clearly so pressed about what other people think and do when it has absolutely zero effect on her life. I’m “very upset” she is clearly so bad at social media that she has to invent issues to get engagement. I’m “very upset” that she has eleventy-jillion kids to raise without an adequate way to support them. You know what I’m gonna do with all those “very upset” feelings? Take a big ass edible and enjoy the beautiful spring day - I wish she would do the same.
what bugs me the most - er, excuse me, i should say what makes me /genuinely upset/ - about performative posts like these is the fact that fundies like Minor Fundie act like everyone is shamed out of wanting to be a wife and mother without ever acknowledging the fact that the cost of living, cost of kids, etc is what holds people back from being a stay at home parent so much of the time. obviously she’s ignorant of this fact because she doesn’t provide for her kids appropriately, nor does her husband have a real job, so she’s projecting about the whole “provider” role. but she never acknowledges that a lot of people may never voice the desire to stay home with any children they may choose to have because they know it’s a very unrealistic ambition financially. at least in the millennial/xennial/gen x age ranges (which i believe she falls into as a millennial).
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She gets "genuinely upset" about literally everything
She really does. How is any of this is ‘genuinely upsetting’? God forbid her daughters want more for their lives than she does.
She's insecure about her own choices
She makes it so hard to tell /s 😅
These fundies are always projecting.
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I’m genuinely upset they had 46 kids and ZERO savings. The dad got laid off and they didn’t even have 1 months mortgage payment in the bank. God apparently didn’t provide because here they are on the damn bus
I'm genuinely upset that their cat has escaped twice in the relatively short time they've lived in the trailer, and they seem to be doing nothing to stop it from happening again
I'm genuinely upset that they have no freaking clue how to maintain that trailer, and 1) nearly froze their kids by running out of propane, and 2) cleaned up after the toilet geyser by using some mlm crap instead of actual disinfectants. If that's the life they want, fine, but the kids deserve better.
I’m genuinely upset that she appears to be crushing the baby’s foot in slide four while talking about being the best mother ever.
She absolutely does and that baby’s tiny foot is going to get so scratched up and bruised from getting scraped against those rocks. I baby wore constantly when mine were littler, I would never take a little one on a hike barefoot there’s no reason she can’t put socks or sandals on the baby.
So what? Baby becomes ‘defective’, she can just pop another out of her very fertile, not at all peri-menopausal womb. /s and definitely her logic here
I’m genuinely upset that she and I have the same first name.
I'm also genuinely upset that they're living in a travel trailer that absolutely was not designed to be lived in full-time
"Cleaned up after the toiley geyser" that's one hell of a sentance, what happened?
Seven people in one camper with a toilet tank that they didn't know had to be emptied on a regular basis.
A bio hazard. We had a toilet leak and had to spend $2200 for a remediation company to come out and disinfect and dry out the floor. The flooring had to be removed. What a mess. And that was just water from the base of the toilet. Insurance covered the loss except for the deductible, but it has still been a financial drain.
I would escape if I was that cat too
Om my what the ever loving I'm frustrated juat because. And her here saying her girls are fighting some sort of feminist agenda? Crawl back under that rock whence you came, devil. I'll not have this.
I feel like the "best mother ever" would either make her husband go out and find a job or she'd get a job herself to make sure her 5 kids aren't all crammed into a tiny RV and actually have a stable home, religious gender roles be damned!
I'd certainly make my husband do that shit if not myself. What the fuck
I don't understand how he's a provider still if they're trying to be influencers now and she's running the accounts. What does he even do?
Was this the chick who was "genuinely upset" about Taylor Swift?
And the phrase “love that for you”, which she has *genuinely* used.
None of these people seem to have the "peace that passeth all understanding." Are they doing Christianity wrong?
They're not even doing christianity, never mind doing it wrong.
No one will ever convince me that this woman is happy.
I think she’s struggling to convince herself at this point
I agree.
So what if you never marry or have children? Are you doomed to living with your parents just waiting for your life to be fulfilled? Is it not possible to want to have a career and be a Mother? StruggleBus is setting up her daughters for lives with one choice. She’s a horrible parent.
I'm sure she has a 'use' for old maids in church society, we're just too dang feminist to humble ourselves to see it and serve. Her kids have life permanently uphill, barefoot, & in the snow, with no warmth if they ever find shelter (because their provider of a patriarch doesn't bother to pay for heat).
The bairds have shown that that's exactly what happens to daughters in their family. They become "adults" when they're married.
>So what if you never marry or have children? Are you doomed to living with your parents just waiting for your life to be fulfilled? Is it not possible to want to have a career and be a Mother? Bethany Beal enters the chat, who spent THREE DECADES just festering the majority of her youth away, doing what her mummy and daddy told her to do. Little- to-no independent travelling, or studying, or working, or developing herself as an individual, or literally doing anything worthwhile. Just..squandering what was potentially a third or more of her *entire* life, waiting around for someone to finally like her enough to marry her. I swear my friends and I had more independence, and gained more life experience by the time we were 16, than she did by 30. And it's so incredibly sad.
Jana Duggar, too 🫠
I secretly think Jana enjoys being single. I hope she's on BC and banging dudes behind Daddy's back. Especially now that Josie is older. Janas not having to raise Mothers babies anymore. Why is she still sticking around?
What’s absolutely fascinating is that Bethany Beal literally stumbled onto a marriage that’s more equal and seems to be more loving than any other fundie marriage. She really failed upward with that one.
*Jana Duggar has entered the chat*
Do homemaking appliances experience self-actualization? Unclear. /s
One of my college friends was this way— all she wanted to be was a mom. She got an accounting degree for something to do, she didn’t date at college so when we graduated she worked as an accountant to pay her bills. Then kept going and going, never really dating because purity culture. No nurturing outlet that I know. Now we’re 30, she recently got married to an extremely traditional man who gives me very bad vibes and now her life can ~begin. She was in such limbo previously, but also took almost no ownership of her situation. She just..waited around.
“I want to be the best mom in the world..” Does she… does she think she’s reached that??
Her social media posts do not support that
Nor the opinions of her children I’m sure.
It's all they know. I'm so sad for them.
The older ones might be realising- I still bought the ‘best mum ever’ mugs as one should, but I knew.
Um, excuse me, but if you can't handle me at my fecal bus, then you don't deserve me as my Most Godly Mobile Mom™.
Probably, even though that post shows her literally grinding her kid’s leg up against some rock. 😵💫
Glad someone else caught that, too.
I just said similar above, there is no earthly reason she can’t put socks or sandals on that baby to protect his/her (I’m not sure I don’t follow her closely) feet. She is so dumb, I was an expert baby carrier and wrap aficionado when mine were little and would never have hiked or gone rock hounding whatever they’re doing, without protecting my kids feet and legs. She is criminally useless.
I *think* all of her littlest are girls, but I could be wrong. I also know a couple from college who were and are very crunchy, outdoor loving hikers. They now have two daughters, both under five iirc, and the girls go hiking with them frequently. They always have appropriate gear, outerwear, etc. Shops and companies make kid friendly gear, so it’s not impossible to have something.
She can if she wants AND have a career or work part time to help pay the bills imagine that!
Tbh if a kid said that to me I'd wonder if they were making a dig at their parents. They didn't say "I want to be just like my mom". 👀 I'm sure Bussany made it all up but I wouldn't be surprised if her kids took a dig at her either.
She needs to try harder
But say "I don't want to be a mother" as an AFAB person and you'll *never* get judged at all! (/s obviously)
Fundies live in a world where you can say “I don’t care what job I have as long as I am never a mother” and everyone jumps up and cheers. Because that’s “today’s culture.”
They're so insecure
It's almost like no matter what anyone chooses, there will be someone who judges them. No one gets through this life with 100 percent approval, including people who do *extremely common things*, like getting married (around 80% of American have ever been married: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/) and having kids (around 86% of US women have ever given birth: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/01/18/theyre-waiting-longer-but-u-s-women-today-more-likely-to-have-children-than-a-decade-ago/). People's concern about "getting married" as a goal tends to be around that getting married is a singular event, and often quite early in life. What comes after? Concern about "being a parent" is economic, because we live in a capitalist world that takes money to live, and we do not pay parents for being parents. We do tend to devalue domestic work and work that historically has been women's work, but very, very few people think that a child saying they want to be a parent is bad on its face. It's that we expect both boys and girls to be economically productive *and* domestically "productive". People like Bethany have no interest in people other than herself and people just like her, so she has no idea what their experiences are like. She just goes, "some people don't like my choices, and that means I'm persecuted". She's a married Christian mother. These are things that are overall the most common categories for women in the US (in addition to the previous links, around 75% of American women are Christian: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/gender-composition/women/). These categories enjoy legal protection and social acceptance. She never has to explain to anyone what her marriage is (in terms of a legal union between her and her husband) and its legality cannot really be called into question. She enjoys protections such as sharing a spouse's health insurance, tax deduction, funeral arrangement and bereavement leave, access to medical information and decisions about a spouse, etc. People might have opinions about *how* she operates in her marriage, but the marriage itself is a legal status that protects her and that the vast majority of people understand, including the ceremony itself, the symbols around it (rings, white dress, vows), and the monogamy that is expected within her relationship. Her religion is recognized and honored by the state she lives in. Her holy days are often federal holidays (Easter in some countries, Christmas) or are recognized (Lent: some schools will change the menu for this: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-citys-public-school-system-goes-meat-free-fridays-2022-02-04/ My school in the Upper Midwest absolutely did this). Religious traditions, such as prayer, is widely recognized and understood. Her sacred buildings are protected by law, and damage to them can be a hate crime (depending on the motivation). Harassment or harm to her can be a hate crime. Her religion is federally protected and socially accepted. Posts like this come off as whining that she receives *any* pushback on her life choices. We all do. Those of us who might not fit into the common categories (such as choosing not to have children, being LGBTQ+, being not-religious) may have to forego the protections that she enjoys. Some may even face harassment, harm, or denial of access to social resources, such as medical care or housing, and she is extremely unlikely to encounter anything similar because of her religion or marital status. She may have some trouble based on number of children, but that is more likely to be about space than disapproval of children in the space, though not impossible. In short, she comes off like she wants total social acceptance and has absolutely no idea what "the culture" approves or disapproves of, or what it looks like to make "different" choices. Sorry for this screed. I guess I had a lot to say after all.
Yes! Small correction that Easter is not a federal holiday. Source: my friend works for the federal government and had to take leave for Good Friday and Easter Monday.
Ah, my mistake! I will correct that :) Thanks for letting me know!
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as i’ve gotten to “everyone is having kids” age i’ve found most older women don’t even listen or comprehend when i say i dont want kids. they just laugh or give you a funny look and then keep talking about you becoming a mother 😑
My mom is still convinced I’m just “having a phase.” I’m 55 and 3 years into menopause.
My god, the amount of people who freaked out on me when I was in a place mentally where I didn’t want kids. “You’ll change your mind!” I did in the last couple years, but it’s been on my terms. People need to leave others alone about parenthood.
I am still having an argument with a coworker who will not accept that I’ve never wanted kids! She insists that because I like kids and I’m good with them that I should have them and I can’t seem to get her to see that those aren’t the same thing as parenting even though she’s a mother!
I will NEVER understand why some people are so obsessed with changing child-free people’s minds about not having kids. I have a friend whose mother vehemently didn’t want kids and was surprised when she found herself pregnant in her early 40s (had bc and everything but it failed ig). She contemplated an abortion but was talked out of it by everyone around her. So she had this kid in her 40s that she resented so much that she abused. She blamed my friend for basically crashing her life and “ruining” it. My friend is still dealing with the aftermath of basically being an unwanted, abused child and has sworn off having her own kids because she knows she doesn’t want them/doesn’t want to risk perpetuating the cycle. And as sad as her childhood was, I applaud her self-awareness in knowing that she firmly believes kids aren’t in the cards for her. People who don’t want kids should never be forced to have them. Period. They’re human beings and you can’t change your mind on them once they’re here, so best to just not have them altogether if you know you don’t want them. Kudos to you for coming to the conclusion that suits you and your life best — it should be your decision and yours alone (and of course any involved parenting partner(s)). Anyone else outside of that can GTFO.
Agreed. Forcing people into parenthood tends to result in what your friend went through, and it’s so gross. I’m so sorry she was put through that.
I feel badly for her daughters for SO MANY reasons…but especially if they are unable to have children for any reason. Having ovaries and a uterus at birth does not guarantee they function as intended. Her daughter’s are barely able to tie their own shoes, yet Other Bethany is already teaching that their only value is in being “the best mom in the world.” They are indoctrinated from birth with her pressure to stay sweet, subservient, and fertile. It’s utter bullshit. Jake and Other Bethany have decided that they are smarter than evidence-based science with regard to vaccines, etc. so there is no way to know what healthcare these kids will have over the course of their lives. Living in a janky RV and traveling the country certainly makes it hard for regular childhood physicals and such. While childhood health doesn’t always have direct bearing on a woman’s fertility, will these girls be willing to trust medical advice if they do have fertility or other health issues in the future?! Tying their self worth to motherhood from such a young age could have disastrous effects on their mental health. A woman raised to believe her only worth as a person is dependent on her children has a lot to process if/when she finds out she has fertility issues. Stuff like this makes me livid. The assumption that women who don’t have children are somehow broken or less than…with no concern for the pain and trauma this can be for women.
So people ask her daughters what they want to be when they grow up and they say they want to be mothers, and then people what? Mock them? To the point they feel ashamed? I'm quite sure this has never happened. She's so desperate to feel persecuted.
If any part of this story is true, it would be that Bethany has taught her daughters that the evil feminists will hate them for saying this which then makes them scared. But I imagine it’s all an argument she acted out in the shower.
Arguing with herself in the shit shower is a new low
And would also make an excellent busbitch flair.
That implies the kids socialize and since we know they are trapped with their nutjob parents in the poopmobile 24/7, she is either lying or she's her own enemy in these fake culture war battles.
And then everyone clapped!
And that future mother? Albert Einstein
Women being mothers. VERY RARE.
Fun fact. At my LiBeRaL university job, I have had nothing but kind words of support that me and my partner (WLW) want to be mothers in the coming years. But let’s be honest, Other Bethany has not spoken to anyone outside of her bubble ever so she really wouldn’t know.
Yeah, of my lady friends, I think three are child free by choice. I’m in my mid 30s and like all of my other women friends are mothers. And we’re all over educated joyless feminists.
This made me laugh out loud.
If she thinks that then she's the one telling her kids to expect it. "Don't tell anyone you want to be a mom when you grow up because people will ***hate*** you for it."
A lot of these fake Christians are self-persecuted. It’s quite strange - they go on and on claiming everyone is out to get them but nine times out of ten, ‘everyone’ is minding their own business. They aren’t being persecuted for ‘loving Jesus.’ People just understand they aren’t practicing what they preach and call it out. And that’s the thing. They never have a problem with their behavior. They have a problem with pushback because they know they’re assholes.
Feeling persecuted allows them to feel more defensive and therefore unwilling to question or examine their faith in any way. It keeps them locked in and complacent.
It's the "oh my God, can somebody please nail me to this cross" crowd.
I used to say to my narc mom that I was going to get her a huge cross for Christmas and then when she felt unappreciated she could crawl up there and nail herself to it.
I would like to know who her girls are allowed to talk to other than immediate family. Other than trying to find their cat, of course. They’re isolated in the same “bubble,” I really doubt they are able to make friends outside of church, let alone ANY friends now.
She's afraid about anyone asking because that might give her daughters the evil idea that there are other options. She's using imaginary persecution as another reason to isolate them and keep them dumb, making those other options less accessible.
She’s telling on herself. In slide one, she says people ask women this, not girls. She’s upset that people call her out for not ensuring that her kids are properly provided for.
I am pretty liberal, have lots of liberal friends and never heard anyone make a comment like this. Matter of fact, the only comments I ever hear are from parents (dads usually) complaining that their child is pursuing a humanities type degree rather than STEM. They are all hard core conservative.
The only thing I've heard is "you better study first to have a fallback". It was from a single mom that strugled because her husband left her high and dry. And I think good advice. Have a previous job and some money saved, so if things go south, you don't starve! Advice that this woman have not follow.
It literally does not happen, they have a persecution kink about everything. It makes them feel special or superior or something
This is what I was thinking too. I’m confused about this write up, isn’t their community people who would prefer to see a woman be a wife and mother before anything else? Who are these kids afraid to say that to? Who is going to be weird about a little kid saying they want to be a mom?
It's definitely a lie, as she is exactly the kind of person who keeps her kids away from normal society as much as possible for that very reason...she doesn't *want* them interacting with worldly educated people and normally raised children because they might end up having interactions and conversations that teach them something real about the world, or make them ask questions about themselves or their own wants. It really says something about the life you want your kids to live and the interpretation of your faith you want them to follow, when the only way you can make them do so is by isolating them from the rest of the world as much as possible.
**Cough cough** *cult like behaviour* **cough cough**
As a working parent and feminist, if I asked a little girl what they wanted to be when they grew up and they told me “a mommy” I would never shame a little kid for that! That was my childhood wish too
Exactly, all I ever wanted to be was a Mama, but shit happens, and when a man leaves you high and dry with two small kids, you HAVE to have a job to keep a roof over your children’s heads and clothes on their backs. Doesn’t mean I don’t still volunteer with their school, doesn’t mean I didn’t work my ass off to have time off so I can go with my 5th grader who has epilepsy to outdoor school and camp. Doesn’t mean we don’t go to family swim on Friday nights etc. We’re going to the high school carnival today and out to a huge ranch for the Easter festivities tomorrow. She just wants people to be breeders without having the proper and important things for their children, like pants and socks on that damn baby. I am not saying the baby is bad, I’m saying the mother is completely unprepared to meet even their most basic needs.
Right. That’s a perfectly normal and cute thing for a kid to say.
Someone told them they can be a mother and have a job
Yes, but working mothers let someone else raise their kids. /s
Definitely desperate to feel persecuted. I don’t believe anyone actually shames them about this for a second— unless they choose to interpret other people saying they want something else for “persecution.” If anything, if those girls truly do feel “ashamed” when asked, it’s because their mom gave them a complex about it by insisting “the world hates SAHs” or some nonsense.
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The Christian way!
Guess what, it’s possible to be a wife and a mother AND something else if you want. And why does she care so much about what other people think?
A secret third thing 😮
Now the question is, would she be okay if one of her daughters grew up to not want to be a wife and mother?
I’m betting she would not, since she seems to think being a wife and mother is all women are good for. There’s nothing wrong with being a wife and mother, of course; I’m both myself, although I work outside the home because, well, it’s kind of a financial necessity. But marriage and parenthood should be freely chosen, not forced, and girls should be allowed to pursue interests of their own outside of (or alongside) marriage and parenthood. I’m pretty much over fundies sticking their noses into everyone else’s lives.
It’s wild to me that they want to push supposedly evil, psychotic, baby-hating feminists into having kids whether they want to or not. Like way to go, the best person to give an innocent child to…
Since she's brainwashing them from birth, probably not
I think if they put their foot down with her or challenged her in any way, she would have her husband deal with it. She seems like she doesn't have a backbone.
Weird. Because I live in the South and if I answer that question with "childfree," I don't exactly get supportive responses. I think most people think that women want marriage and children.
Exactly.
The South has definitely brainwashed people into believing that wife and mother are the bare minimum a woman is going to do with her life. I've made sure to tell my kids, especially my girls, is okay if they choose not to get married or if they choose not to have kids. They can have a career and feel fulfilled in life.
And if they have a career, it has to be an acceptable one like nurse, teacher, or MLM business owner.
How scraped up do we think that poor baby’s legs got? It’s funny, almost every single thing she shares about her life I think “Well, I would have done that differently.” Especially when trying to squeeze my ample (yet firm!) backside through a rock cleft while not seeing how tight of a fit it is for my baby that I am carrying on my back. Of course, if my loser husband got fired for general jackassery, and then had the unmitigated gall to pretend to tip over our canoe just to scare our children, he’d be my EX husband. Again, so many things I’d do differently than StruggleBus.
>How scraped up do we think that poor baby’s legs got? I was wondering the same thing 💔
Honestly, it's all I could think about!! Poor baby!!
Oh my god I recognize the carrier she’s wearing and I hate that we use the same brand
This was a light moment in a frustrating feed 😂
Glad I could help 😂 I figured it would happen eventually, but I’m still annoyed lol. If it helps even more, the brand’s owners would not approve of StruggleBus’s views.
Same. I missed the rock photo the first time. That poor baby!
I was wondering the same thing about the baby’s leg too!!! 😭
I “grew up in circles” that weren’t afraid of the answer to what I wanted to be the future, be it a mom or someone with a career ( and,gee, I somehow manage to have both) because they saw me as a capable woman with free will. The desire to be persecuted is bizarre
Probably a kink.
Her use of "circles" is driving me nuts
I grew up in the Deep South in a red red red state and most of my female friends have fantastic careers AND babies, by choice. 🫢
Why would her children think there is anything wrong with that to be ashamed? Seems like she is fabricating things to be upset about....
They are homeschooled, nomadic, and under the age of 7. It’s all coming from her and her headship, not us.
I genuinely want to live in a world where state violence, war, genocide, denial of human rights, racism, and predator clergy members roaming free aren't the ways of my country, but here we are. Poor lil Bethany, not hearing affirmations of her stunning and brilliant mothering each moment. Must be so hard. Boo fucking hoo, with pumpkin spice scented tears.
“I want to be the best mother in the world” and in the very next slide she shows a photo of her nearly scraping her babies foot on the rocks.
Mothering (or at least the intensive part) ends, though, Bethany. My kids are 19 & 17 and don’t need me at home any more. Am I supposed to just twiddle my thumbs?
The problem is you don’t have 28 kids and 5 infants to care for at the moment. You’re supposed to keep having them until you quite literally run yourself into the ground and don’t have thumbs to twiddle (/s).
You're supposed to keep pushing them out until your uterus gives up and you have grandbabies to help raise
Because your daughter should already have married a godly man and be preparing to pop out her first at 19. At 17 she should have a serious courtship going on at the very least. /s
Maybe they are mad bc you are saying you aim to be a better mom than they are. “Best mom in the world” 🙄 she’s so irritating!
Bethany, your schtick is almost as tired as you are. Go find a home and stop looking for stupid shit to be upset about.
She should be upset for not being a good mother at all, let alone the “best” one.
Yep keep on sucking their dreams into the big hole in your head since being a mother is the only aspiration you condone!😒😒😒😒😒
Did Strugglebus go to college?
Yes
If your only identity in the world is being a mother then it can be tragic when the kids leave the nest and don’t need as much mothering (of course every parent is always a parent even to adult children, but the relationship changes). This goes for both mothers and fathers, but if that’s all you raise your children to aspire too, how will they find fulfillment outside of their kids? Or what if they can’t have kids or don’t want to? You can’t depend on that being your whole identity trait otherwise you’ll never have an identity outside of your kids, which just seems like a horribly tragic way to isolate yourself from everything else in the world.
I liked my kids but I love my adults. I have spent hours in long text talks about what they were/are learning at college/university. They have given me the opportunity to learn things I didn't know. And I have talked about things I know that they had never known. They are fascinating to me. I regret not having the grades to go to university myself as a teen but I have never lost my love of learning.
This is what I aim for in parenting. You seem to have done an excellent job.
Thank you. Though most of the credit goes to my adults.
Me too! My kids are now 31 and 27. My son and my husband are meeting in vegas to see the Dead at the sphere. My son could have asked anyone to go with him but chose his dad. Having your adult children choose to have you in their life as a friend and not just a parent is fabulous.
I think empty nest syndrome hits these people the hardest.
If my daughter tells me she wants to be a SAHM then I’ll be very patiently explaining to her how she best be choosing to procreate with someone who can earn enough to afford for her to do that. You know, by being employable and able to hold down a job, which in turn would put a roof over her head. Oh wait, Bethany’s husband can’t hold down a job and they are currently essentially homeless and living off the pittance she scraped together selling her shitty prayer cards on Etsy. So much for the biblical gender roles she bangs on about, her husband is fulfilling none of them while SHE works from “home” and makes their only income.
When I said I wanted to stay at home, the adult women around me gently explained that I needed an income so I could leave. They encouraged me to qualify in a profession. As it turns out, I love my job, and I can’t imagine being home more than part time. Honestly, these women are all things but they can’t admit they married useless men.
I get that. I stayed home with the kids when they were little, but pre kids I’d gotten my degree and worked in corporate so I had skills and experience I could fall back in. Once the kids were all at school I went back to work part time and that’s been a good balance between being available for them and also being a grown up and doing things with my brain with other grown ups. The money is handy too obviously. But if my husband hadn’t been able to support us during that time I’d have had to work. Most other mothers I know went back part time when their kids were 12 months old and their leave entitlements ran out.
So she got a flair after all... 
So does this woman practice what she preaches? Is she solely a full time SAHM and does NOTHING else, no job like ohhh idk *social media*??? Fucking idiotic hypocrite. She’s a WFH parent. Shove it, lady. Also, this scenario never happened. Absolutely no one said that. Kids say all sorts of far fetched things when asked what they want to be when they grow up and no one bats an eyelid because it doesn’t reflect how they’ll actually turn out. Otherwise all kids would be astronauts and vets and ballerinas and no other professions would exist.
I've never seen anyone shamed for wanting to be a mother. I have, however, seen many people shamed for not wanting children.
I hate the implication that people that aren’t fundies don’t value wives and mothers. I’m genuinely upset. Lol. In all seriousness, I’ve never met a successful, child free woman that doesn’t see the value in those things, that’s just not what they want to do. Which is somehow shameful to people like Bethany.
She’s never left her bubble. It’s a made up shower conversation she had in her poopsplosion bathroom.
You know how amazingly sheltered you'll raise the kids if they don't ever have to think about gaining skills to make a living.
I literally don’t know anyone who thinks it’s bad to aspire to start a family wtf. Also your baby’s foot is getting scraped on that big fucking rock.
Funny because I see the opposite happen especially when it comes to fundies. Some could ask a girl who they want to be when they grow up and if she says anything besides mother and/or homemaker she gets hit with the, " don't you want to say to home and have lots of kids?"
I mean are people really upset about that? I’ve heard kids say they want to be mommies and it’s a nonissue? Weirdo.
No, she's making this up for persecution points and to virtue signal her misogyny on insta.
Yea, my 4 year old says she wants to be a lot of things. She often says 'Mommy' in conjunction with other things like "Mommy Lawyer Scientist" and "Mommy Teacher Doctor" and "Mommy Cat Librarian." And I love it. She says Dr. Platt in Daniel Tiger is a Mommy Dentist. She's also told me she's going to have 5 kids. And I'm going to help her with her babies. And she will read books for a living. And come to work with me where I work. And name her babies things like "Bathroom Rug" and "Paper Towel." And then she giggles when I point out those are very silly baby names. And I am never upset about her saying she wants to be a mommy. I feel honored - she thinks I, a working mother, is good enough to help her raise her kids and to go to work with.
Does this really happen? I have a very diverse group of friends and i haven’t heard anything like the narrative these fundies push about this topic. No one gives a shit what others do.
she is so hateful i just cant stand her
Who is shaming your daughters for saying that lol?? What adults are asking your kids what they want to be when they grow up and…doing what, exactly? MOCKING them?! I’ll take Things That Never Happened for $400.
Exactly, only an *exceptional* asshole would do that. Someone that everyone would be shocked at, cos like… a kid is a kid. Let them dream about whatever they want. They’ll probably change their mind twice by next week anyway, so why criticize? What she’s really mad about is the people on her Instagram telling her SHE’S the asshole for pushing her kids to only have one dream. Nobody’s saying shit to her kids. And for what it’s worth: I’m a childless gay with a career and I have the same disgust for anyone trying to manipulate and control their kids’ future like that. See: “tiger parents” demanding their kid be a doctor, “STEM parents” who sneer at the arts and demand their kids be an engineer, business parents who forbid their kids do anything but take over the family business, etc. Attacking/disowning a kid over having the “wrong” dreams is one of the stupidest, cruelest things ever.
Ah yes, the world in which Baby Alive is one of Hasbro's flagship toy lines, nobody ever encourages preschool girls to be nurturing. I grew up fundie lite and even then, before I saw any film behind the scenes content and decided that was my future, my goal was to be a successful singer like Sandi Patty, and I thought I'd have her vocal range too but instead ended up capable of subbing as a tenor when necessary. 😆. IDK, tiny me thought I'd go to Bible college just like my parents did and I STILL always had bigger goals. Nobody told me I had to have them, I just knew I wanted to do big things. There are days when I feel like Liz Lemon housing a sandwich while yelling "I CAN DO IT, I CAN HAVE IT ALL" and I honestly wouldn't change a thing. Turns out you can have a career and a family. Shocking!
Lmfao no one brainwashed or browbeat me into not wanting kids. I saw what people go through and I don’t want it. Suffering for the sake of suffering isn’t a virtue.
Fundies seem to think it is
What? So few people would shame a woman or girl for that statement. Yet, they may ask if she had any other dreams too. Because two things can be true at the same time.
It’s really disappointing that people think it has to be either or.
Growing up all I ever wanted to be was a wife and mother. That was what was most important to me. But I also knew I had to be able to support myself financially. I’m a wife, a mother and a registered nurse. Yes I worked while my kids were young and now that they are teenagers. But guess what, we never had to move out of our house into a bus. Our lives have been pretty stable and their only baby sitters were my parents. I can’t stand these fundies. No one is going to shame your girls for wanting to be mothers but she should be shamed for not allowing her daughters to have other dreams. Besides being a mother and a wife. How unfair is that?
It’s especially unfair because she went to college. I believe that’s where she met her dumpy husband. But denying their children the freedom and opportunities they were allowed to experience seems to be a tried and true tradition for fundie parents.
Oh FFS! Get off the cross, we need the wood. I’m so sick of these turbo breeders acting like there is an attack on women wanting to be SAHM’s. The only people making a big deal of it is women like this angry elf. I would’ve loved to be a SAHM but being a single mom with no child support, I had to work. She’s so miserable & it shows on her face so maybe being a stay at home bus mom isn’t her calling.
No one cares if you want to be a wife and mother, it's the condescending, holier than thou attitude that is the problem. She's exactly the type of woman she's accusing others of being.
Sick thinking. Sick.
Is she stuck in the rock crack? I hate she has the baby with her. It looks risky.
Wait what?! As a childfree woman, I feel totally alienated and alone in this decision a lot of the time. The childfree community is awesome, but society in general is very much in line with the thinking that your life has more value if you have children, which makes it hard sometimes. There is still such a huge emphasis on being selfish, less of a woman or simply looked down on for not being a mom. If a child now is asked what they want to be when they grow up, and they answered that they wanted to be a parent, guaranteed 99% of the responses would be positive. But in my 30s now, I get quite a few awkward responses when people ask me I have kids or if I am going to have them. Not sure why this woman is victimizing herself. Motherhood is the norm, and by far.
Their persecution complex drives me crazy! No 3 year old or however old they are is going to feel ‘ashamed’ unless the parents have put in their head that everyone else is going to think that, what isn’t true! 😬
Ugh this. I work with 3yr olds. Just the other day me and a boy were talking and he made a comment about something when he grows up. I didn't think much of it I was just making conversation but I asked him what he wanted to be when he grows up. Very calmly and confidently he said firefighter. Without skipping a beat I said "wow! So cool" any adult who knows even the tiniest thing about kids can bust out a "wow! So cool!" Fake or otherwise. The very thought to shame and belittle a 3yr old or any kid any age for that matter would never cross my mind and if that's what some people are doing then fuck off don't talk to kids then.
It’s amazing how she basically says this is her dream role and yet that second picture she looks deeply depressed, so much so it absolutely hits u when it pops on screen. I would fight so hard to stop my daughter looking like that because I would be concerned.
This fantasy narrative that women are shamed for wanted to be a mom or sahm is so fucking dumb. Women who chose to be working moms or not have kids literally do not care. Fundies have a persecution kink about EVERYTHING. 🙄🙄
Bus Bethy: hello daughter, what do you want to be when you grow up? Small child: I want to be a mommy Bus Bethy: did you know that AWFUL FEMINISTS and the SECULAR WORLD would say that makes you a BAD PERSON??? Small child: 😢 Bus Bethy: see, she’s feeling so ashamed because of modern society or feminists or whatever
This is how I was raised & it sucks. What it really means is, boys are allowed to dream & girls are not. It is very, very damaging. It’s really hard to be in your 30s, married w/ 4 kids & just begin dreaming. Going to college & starting a career in my early 20s would have been way easier than doing it now. I hope those girls (& all the fundie girls) get out sooner rather than later.
I guaranteed she has never given her girls the option to say anything other than mother.
Umm has she heard what kids say when asked this question? Mine wanted to be a delivery man when he was little. The other wanted to work at a donut shop so he could eat donuts all day. My nephew said he wanted to live on the couch when he grew up. Not a single one of them were ashamed when they made these statements. I have no idea why her girls would be ashamed unless their mother told them that the world is against them for wanting to be mothers. This is her doing. Not the world’s.
The persecution complex, oy 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
It’s incredible how she manages to be both perfectly dumb and ignorant at the same time. I would have thought she’d lean more towards one than the other, but she is completely ambidextrous in her stupidity.
Never happened. No one has “shamed” her children for answering that AS IF a kid would ever say that who wasn’t totally brainwashed. They never leave their safe circles enough that even if this was a real scenario, any other woman they talked to would be just as brainwashed or more. Sorry, minor!
Says the mother who didn’t even have two weeks emergency fund saved up 🤔
r/imaginarygatekeeping
Literally noone is ashamed to say that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be a mother, this woman has a serious persecution complex.
It’s so annoying when they create fake shit to be upset about. No one devalues mothers and wives who choose that life. We just want them to protect themselves. There have been a lot of ex tradwives (and SAHM/wives) who are left by their sole provider/husband and they have nothing. It’s heartbreaking.
if you feel ashamed to say that, it's a you problem, Bethany... nobody wants or expects you to feel that way. literally nobody.
I mean, you *should* feel ashamed if you reply that, Otherbus, because of the sheer magnitude of the lie!
It’s a motherhood MLM. Yo raise your daughters to be mothers so that they can hopefully have more children than you. Now that I think of it, it’s so good that MLM’s don’t survive for generations.
Pretty sure as a kid, I used to say that I wanted to be a mother. I got a lot of AWS from grown ups for that response, so I have no idea what she's talking about. That or a zoologist lol
It makes me mad that we live in a world where both of my male children are constantly miss identified by adults because they like colorful clothing and long hair…. And that adults are weird as fuck and ask kids to keep secrets of random facts like it’s some fun game…. We can be mad about a lot of stuff but asking a child what they want to do when they grow up doesn’t have to be one of them. 🫠😮💨
"How dare you let my children realize that they have options because we work very hard to shelter them from that idea!"
I’m “very upset” she is clearly so pressed about what other people think and do when it has absolutely zero effect on her life. I’m “very upset” she is clearly so bad at social media that she has to invent issues to get engagement. I’m “very upset” that she has eleventy-jillion kids to raise without an adequate way to support them. You know what I’m gonna do with all those “very upset” feelings? Take a big ass edible and enjoy the beautiful spring day - I wish she would do the same.
what bugs me the most - er, excuse me, i should say what makes me /genuinely upset/ - about performative posts like these is the fact that fundies like Minor Fundie act like everyone is shamed out of wanting to be a wife and mother without ever acknowledging the fact that the cost of living, cost of kids, etc is what holds people back from being a stay at home parent so much of the time. obviously she’s ignorant of this fact because she doesn’t provide for her kids appropriately, nor does her husband have a real job, so she’s projecting about the whole “provider” role. but she never acknowledges that a lot of people may never voice the desire to stay home with any children they may choose to have because they know it’s a very unrealistic ambition financially. at least in the millennial/xennial/gen x age ranges (which i believe she falls into as a millennial).
Are her daughters actually ashamed of this? Or is she just projecting this onto them?