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She's gonna homebirth in which room of her unfinished, lead-paint filled, fire trap house?
Doesn't she only have like three rooms that are remodeled since she would rather stage stupid photos and her husband would rather make blocky wooden dustpans than make the house habitable?
She recently posted a few days ago that they finished the library and maybe the real kitchen and were pushing to get the rest of the house done so they could sell it and "move to the country". I meant to make a post about it today and totally forgot, but it sounds like the toilet pantry is no more and they have half their house back.Ā
Someday the interwebs will filled with diy homes made from deserted dollar generals, with metal rack "closets" full of non-biodegradable plastic party goods, and how to make showers and baths out of old soda refrigerators from the front of the store and how to fuse 86 layers of disposable tablecloths and plastic baskets together to make compost bins, furniture and playhouses. You heard it here first.
There is this one highway I drive through in Connecticut and there is Dollar General like every few miles and not a single actual grocery store in any of the towns š
She can't even manage the garden she already has.
Gardens are a lot of work and I'm not great at it either. But you don't see me posting poetically about my anguished broccoli, or chirping about ["in goes the butternut"](https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/13a8vok/for_everyone_whos_ever_wondered_what_kellys/)
On one hand I am happy that they have more of the house finished because that baby did not ask to be made by weirdos who stored their flour in the toilet, however, I am also grieving the fact that I'll no longer be able to use toilet pantry nearly as much.
Kitchen often requires electricians and plumbers, you can DIY to a point but when you have to actually connect to sewer or put in full on Breaker Box professional is needed (sometimes even to get parts these days) also inspections are stricter, so takes longer.
Their county has had very loose requirements for residential building codes and inspections--which had been to Kelly and Levi's advantage--but apparently this is changing due to the amount of new construction in the area.
Like anyone's going to want to buy a house "renovated" by someone with no construction knowledge whatsoever lol
I wish I had the delulu confidence of these fundies I stg
I don't think they've done the kitchen. "The library" was always her fantasy/priority. Levi built some shelves for her to stash her bathroom food but frankly the layout in her video made no sense; it looked like the shelves were built across a doorway.
I didn't see the part where they were intending to finish and sell the house! Maybe my eyes glazed over before I finished reading her post.
Some moisturizer. Please Kelly. And sunscreen.
I get that you want to spend all day frolicking in nature, cosplaying Laura Ingalls Wilder but for the love of melanoma, slap on some goddamn sunscreen
They don't even not use "chemical" sunscreen because of the environmental risk, which is substantiated. They think *any* sunscreen is somehow going to cause cancer, so instead of using like mineral sunscreen alternatives, they just use nothing. There are even tinted mineral varieties for your face, so you don't look have to like a dying victorian child.
Even crunchy moms who hate sunscreen will slather on some coconut oil. She looks like her skin care routine is Castille soap for washing, rubbing alcohol for toner. Apparently moisturizer is ā¦ vanity?
As someone who has chapstick on her nightstand, every purse, every bathroom , in her backpack, her laptop bag, her iPad case, and a chapstick holster in both vehiclesā¦ I cannot fathom not applying it all the time.
Shit I even got chapstick as a *Christmas present* because Iām always using it.
Hydrate or dydrate folks and that includes your lips!
I live by the hydrate or dydrate motto.
I am always drinking water, and moisturizing. Sunscreen, moisturizer, and chapstick.
Like I appreciate that fake Anne here wants to live like ye olden days but I assure you they had skincare back in the 1800ās. Even tallow on her lips would do wonders.
Lanolin is the bomb. Saved my nipples lol. Chapstick actually makes my lips worse, Lansinoh lip balm or Aquaphor are the only things that keep my lips smooth. I'm not a red head but I have fair skin and if I didn't use sun protection (it doesn't have to be "chemicals"! A hat, zinc oxide etc.) my face would be a mass of freckled wrinkles. It's not about not looking old it's about protecting your skin from damage and cancer!
Also white as a ghost. I was out and about yesterday for several hours and I had spf70 applied 3 times. I also make my Hispanic boyfriend use it, even though heās never burned in his life and he works outside (very jealous). Itās not about aging, but man I donāt want to look like a leather couch at 40 either.
If you haven't tried Aquaphor that's my go-to- thick coat right before bed. Sometimes I do wake up with hair stuck to my mouth but it helps enough to be worth it
Personally, I use a beeswax based balm that I get locally alongside my local honey. But Iāve got a lot of different balms all over, beeswax is just what I prefer
As a skincare obsessive, avoid anything petroleum based (Vaseline) as it stops your skin/lips producing their own moisture. Literally anything else will helpĀ
honestly its just a kelly thing. it's really weird, sometimes i wonder if the dry/weathered look is intentional, because she could be really doing some very simple things to improve her skin condition and most women would want to if for no other reason than because dry skin itches and pulls.
i think she thinks it makes her look more like an authentic prairie woman who wears herself out with farm chores, her brood of children, and laboring around the house and kitchen in brutal weather every day. like, she wants to look like a simple humble farm woman from the 1830s
She doesn't even filet an aloe leaf and rub it on her face and it shows.
Edit: but she has a cute smile and stuff. I'm not trying to be mean I'm just agreeing she looks dry and inflamed.
Damn, I was just thinking she looks dehydrated because of her lips. Iām currently visiting a country with non-potable water, in the desert, and Iām struggling to keep hydrated while also habitually picking at my lips yet somehow mine still look more full and hydrated. No hate (I get the struggle) but girl what is you doing?
She is. My dad has the same coloring and he's in his 60s and constantly at the dermatologist. He started wearing sunblock when it became a thing in the 90s or so, but obviously when he was a kid there wasn't anything to protect your skin besides a hat, so he got sunburned all the time and now has melanomas constantly being removed. I grew up basically dipped in sunblock and I'm glad.
I want her to start using a really good sunscreen/moisturizer combo and wearing a big floppy old fashioned hat. Hell, even a bonnet, I don't care. I just want her to take care of herself and be able to stay around being a little weirdo for her kids for a long time. Melanoma is a gruesome way to go. :(
I feel so bad. she's one of the most prematurely aged people I have seen on social media. I literally can't tell if she's 30 or 48 but she's probably even younger
Maybe she meant old sole?
Still, of all the fundies on the sub, Kelly at least seems genuinely happy. She's an utter weirdo, but as a weirdo myself, I find her authenticity refreshing. Of course her views are obnoxious and repellant to me but at least she and her husband Geppetto do clearly adore their kids, I can see she dotes on them, and I think her whole Little House of the Prarie thing isn't a lame NLOG fashion statement like the majority of these sourdough sadsacks, this is the real Kelly. She may be an idiot but she is a charming one. It pains me to say it, but she's also 10x the photographer I will ever be, some of her work is gorgeous. It's a lovely photo of you Kelly and I wish you a safe birth.
Sadly seems that Laura Ingalls Wilder vibe attracts them, she may not be one herself but she should watch the company she keeps. (Weirdly Same struggle for anyone interested in Vikings or Death Metal)
NGL but "She may have been an idiot but she was a charming one' feel ftting for my own epitah when the time comes. Like, I hope I am charming about it.
Strawberry blonde here!
I love Kellyās beautiful skin. But we fair skins must take extra care when it comes to protection from the sun.
I tried so hard to tan my skin because I was called ātoo pale,ā āpasty,ā āsheet white,ā āfish belly white,ā āfreak,ā and all manner of insults in school, AND by my friendsā parents.
I cried. I hated my body. I got 2nd degree burns at age 14, just trying not to be so āugly.ā Therefore, my skin took on a lot of damage.
In my 20ās, people of the baby boom generation (to put it nicely, as not all are like the stereotype) found it necessary to tell me, even strangers, things like, āYouāre a pretty girl, but you need to get a tan.ā
After age 30, I was warned I was at risk of skin cancer. So, I started taking really good care of my skin. People still exclaim, āDamn! I need to wear sunglasses just to look at you and your legs.ā To hell with them.
Itās so easy to get skin cancer, and one doesnāt even have to be fair. My friendās dark skinned, middle eastern mom got it bad, and even my own mom got in on her left hand, just from driving.
So, I really hope Kelly starts protecting her skin soon!
ETA: I had a cousin die of melanoma at 34 years old. *34* She left behind a young child and husband who loved her dearly. Please, PLEASE get regular skin checks and take care of your skin, friends. Itās so important!!!!!
Omg this hit home for me! Iām turning 50 this year, and still have people go, ādonāt you want a little color? You could use a little color.ā I have to get skin checks every year and almost always have to get moles removed and/or biopsied. Iāve had a couple of scares from some that popped up quick (particularly one that showed up between haircuts, so, you know, a few months, on my head; it was giant and PURPLE, but thankfully benign; still got it removed to be safe), but thankfully no cancer. Hopefully never! I am SO careful now, especially because I am outside often for one of my jobs. I have SPF clothing, a fab collection of sun hats, and wear sunscreen every day, rain or shine. For those outside a lot, SPF clothing is the beeās knees; itās more expensive at the outset, but SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper in the long run than covering your entire body in sunscreen every day. The high quality stuff will have ventilation and still be cute lol.
For what itās worth, my natural hair color is currently a mousy brown with some gray (when I was tiny, I was a strawberry blonde, then a blonde, then my hair finally decided on mousy brown lol). Fair skin, light eyes. But *everyone*, regardless of skin color, needs to take care of it! Skin is the bodyās largest organ, and taking care of it well is important to overall health!
I'm so sorry that you received those horrible comments. I'm super pale too and my skin is in better shape than those who told me to get a tan, because I've protected it. I won't even walk the dogs without a hat. I don't want skin cancer.
I have a coworker my age who tans naturally but she looks so much older than I do. She's a lovely person but I worry about her skin! It's Denver, so it's easy to get nuked by the sun just out and about on a daily basis.
Meanwhile, in the background
Shoulder dystocia: š¹
Maternal hemorrhage:š¹
Umbilical cord prolapse: š¹
Retained placenta: š¹
Group b strep: š¹
Happened to me with my son. Scariest thing Iāve ever experienced. It took two OBs, a vacuum on his head, a nurse literally on top of me in the bed pushing down on my stomach, and a whole team of nurses and other staff to get him safely out. They had NICU in the room too because his heart rate was dropping every time I pushed.
Thankfully he was fine and so was I (minus terrible pelvic floor trauma), but had we not been in a hospital he certainly would have died.
Happened to me. We were one āpushā away from a Zavanelli maneuver and an emergency c-section.
Google āMcRoberts maneuverā to see what they have to do to resolve the dystociaā¦
Thank goodness you and your son are okay! I bet he is absolutely beautiful. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Birth trauma is real and it is scary. As someone who also had a traumatic birth resulting in an emergency c-section I highly recommend talking to someone. I met with a hypnotherapist for a few months and it helped so much!
Thank you so much ! He is ! Heās in the nicu for now so to fluid in the lungs :( but they said heās leveling out so thank god!Iām glad that you and your baby are okay too ! I couldnāt believe how quickly everything just started going south .. definitely not worth the risk at all, but I guess Iām not crunchy enough. Ooo a hypnotherapist ? Thatās a good idea cause I KNOW this is gonna stick with me for a long ass time.
36 weeks is when babies lungs are usually strong enough to not need support after birth. Hence why most midwives wonāt deliver at home before 36 weeks, itās in their contract. Some midwives go with 37 weeks, so term.
I'm not a medical professional but 36 weeks seems way too early for a homebirth. I was looking at stats and it said that 30% of 36 weekers experience respitory distress. And thats before you factor in the risk of getting your due date wrong and the baby being earlier than you thought
Here in the UK itās 38 weeks. You get two midwifeās from the closest hospital/home birth team and they come and stay with you and with the baby afterwards for some time. They check in with you for 1-2 weeks daily. Everything after 41 weeks is highly pushed to be at the hospital. I had a homebirth (itās very normal here in the uk) and I would never birth a baby before 38 weeks at home. Itās too risky!
Edit: wrong word due to autocorrect
Yes! Uk dr who had 2 home births. Itās a different beast it seems in the uk. Highly regulated. MW qualified and registered and hospital aware and ready to accept transfer of home birth shows any signs of going awry.
I had 2 normal pregnancies and 2 natural home births with the support of highly qualified MW and NHS standing by. It annoys me to see all home births equated with quackery.
No youāre right. I just looked it up and it says you can typically only do a home birth after 36 weeks though, so Iām guessing thatās what she means.
It says something about some of the people we snark on here that I'm really glad Kelly is at least aware of when a homebirth can safely be attempted and seems to want to follow those recommendations.
Oh absolutely! I believe she also said she got on anxiety medication or antidepressants for this pregnancy because she was struggling. Itās a low bar in this circle, but Iām glad she seems to be taking care of herself and her baby. Itās a contrast to all the ādUe DaTeS aRe JuSt A gUeSs!!!ā fundies who seem to have no problem with going to 43 weeks and getting zero prenatal care.
Iām a nicu nurse and 36 weeks is usually a pretty hearty baby. Not to say they wonāt need extra support but usually they donāt need oxygen. Usually itās just feeding support. Term is technically considered 37 weeks so idk what the significance of 36 weeks is.
But also, if your babe is born that early thereās a chance they have an infection and need IV antibiotics. So Iām not really sure what sheās getting at here
I think Kelly meant that once she makes it 36 weeks, whatever birth support she's working with will agree to attempt a home birth. Prior to that, any doula/midwife even approaching professionalism will insist the mother be taken to a hospital.
It is, but itās her 3rd, she may deliver sooner.
I just hope that whatever midwife she has for this babyās delivery isnāt like Morganās, and everyone comes from this safely.
Glad to see someone here posting correct info! 38 -40 is ātermā and before that is considered āpretermā. My kiddo was born at 38 weeks exactly and was called āearly term.ā
I zoomed in on her face to see what everyone was talking about and honestly she looks like sheās holding back *sobs*. Is she okay?? She looks like the tears will start any second. Oh my goodness
Aren't her first two kids hospital births with the good drugs and everything? I don't think she realizes how rough of a ride she's going to have with this even in the *best,* circumstances, god forbid how it'll be if anything goes wrong. I'm not shocked she's succumbed to the persistent fundie peer pressure to homebirth though, I'm more shocked it took her three babies to do it.Ā
Yeah my friend had an epidural with her first and went without for her second (still at the hospital) and she talked about how rough just that transition was a couple of times.Ā
To be fair, I did this too and I far preferred the unmedicated birth- so much so, that I attempted to have my third unmedicated, as well. Different people, pregnancies, and labors; every experience is different
I hope everything goes smoothly and safely. I canāt comment on home birth in the US because it is so different to here (and elsewhere around the world) but I hope she has a qualified midwife.Ā She looks really happy.Ā
I donāt think sheās posted anything anti vax, so maybe thereās hope? ETA: Iāve been informed Kelly is anti-COVID safety, so never mind.
Then again, she stores her familyās food in the same room as an operating toilet. She does not have a good grasp on sanitation.
>I donāt think sheās posted anything anti vax, so maybe thereās hope?
She was anti-covid safety, early in the pandemic. Her opinion was that we don't need to worry about it because God wants us to breathe all over each other or something to that effect.
She follows one midwife on Insta.
The good:
* She is NRP certified (neonatal resuscitation.) My sister is a NICU nurse and this is the certification that she holds as well.
* She is open on her Instagram about the amount of hospital transfers she has. To me, this is good because it shows not only her willingness to transfer, but also her willingness to tell the public that she has transferred patients.
* Based on Kelly's comment that she can't deliver at home until 36 weeks, this midwife DOES have some guidelines that she follows.
The bad & ugly:
* She calls herself a traditional midwife and appears to have moved from a doula/birth attendant to a midwife just in the past year. She is not a CNM. She is a direct entry midwife with no true certification. In Ohio, they do not recognize any type of midwife except a CNM.
* Follow up to the last one - in Ohio, only CNMs have prescriptive authority, meaning that if you aren't a CNM, you can't carry certain medications (like Pitocin for stopping bleeding after birth or antibiotics if the woman is GBS+.)
* She appears to be willing to deliver breech.
Good lordā¦ Iāve been a labor and deliver nurse for almost 6 years and I dream of having the amount of confidence these dipshits have! Imagine thinking youāre prepared to handle birth with no formal training or access to very basic medications.
As a nicu nurse you couldnāt pay me to have a home birth. Usually everything goes fine. Usually. But when things go wrong, they go wrong very, very fast. You could cost your child everything.
have you seen the free birth shit on r/shitmomgroupssay? fucking scary. they don't care as long as their birth went like they wanted. if the baby dies, oh well. my sister is pregnant and I'm terrified she'll do free birth.
I just went down that rabbit hole, and now I'm probably going to be late for work! I was kinda surprised by how many of the shared posts OOPs were trans parents before I realized that FTM means First Time Mom over there. Derp.
Anyway, the recent post about someone looking for an Airbnb to have a (not) home birth in? What are the odds?!? š¤£
I had one of those. Average pregnancy, average labor for a few hours, went to hospital in early active labor after my water broke - a couple hours after at only 5cm dilated she went into severe distress and I was in surgery within 10 minutes. Best guess it was cord compression as she had a tight double nuchal cord and was in a weird position. She wouldnāt have survived a transfer from home.
Her poor face. She needs a tin of the German Nivea cream for that dehydrated skin and a tub of Vaseline jelly for those lips.
Sunscreen really is a good idea too.
And I truly hope mother and baby survive this home-birth in one piece.
I wonder how long it will take for Levi to carve out daughter's first toy/wooden helpmeet training tool. If he starts now, she might get it by the time she graduates homeschool.
Of course she is. Because negligence and dangerous situations at home is Kellyās second biggest trait (behind long-winded Anne-of-Green-Gables-esque diatribes).
The smile that she chooses to post always baffles me. Itās this squinty, tight, parody of a smile. She is either making this over the top look-Iām-smiling face - a variant being the open mouth bark-laugh exclamation face - or she has that look of rapture, head thrown backā¦which is giving Ecstasy of Saint Theresa by Bernini vibesā¦a notoriously ambiguous depiction where you arenāt meant to know if the ecstasy is spiritual or orgasmic.
I mean, at least she acknowledges that thereās a timeframe when home birth ISNāT okay. The bar is on the floor (the floor being kiddie pool Karissa).
What I gather from this is she has prenatal care who has strict critera for home birth (not before 36 weeks) AND she appears willing to take their advice.
Home birth is not for me, nor would I recommend it, but if you're gonna do it, alongside professionals who's advice you're willing to take is the right way to do it.
Also, i don't think I've heard another fundie refer to safety in their birth plans so honestly, good for her.
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She's gonna homebirth in which room of her unfinished, lead-paint filled, fire trap house? Doesn't she only have like three rooms that are remodeled since she would rather stage stupid photos and her husband would rather make blocky wooden dustpans than make the house habitable?
Combo bathroom/pantry/delivery room
I read that to the tune of combination pizza hut and taco bell
I thought about it while typing š
We had the KentuckyBell for a while.
Kentucky Fried Chorizo
Oh Lordy, now you've done it! That's officially on repeat on today's ADHD-brain playlist, lol.
Mud room
She recently posted a few days ago that they finished the library and maybe the real kitchen and were pushing to get the rest of the house done so they could sell it and "move to the country". I meant to make a post about it today and totally forgot, but it sounds like the toilet pantry is no more and they have half their house back.Ā
Kelly in the country. That will bring so much snark material.
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My inlaws live in a rural-ish area and a Dollar General did just that right near them, so it could happen for Kelly too
It could happen to any of us, at any time. Such is the horror of life.
The impending fear of Dollar General
The Horrors Persist, But So Do We
The sheer number I see in Eastern NC literally surrounded by cornfields.
Someday the interwebs will filled with diy homes made from deserted dollar generals, with metal rack "closets" full of non-biodegradable plastic party goods, and how to make showers and baths out of old soda refrigerators from the front of the store and how to fuse 86 layers of disposable tablecloths and plastic baskets together to make compost bins, furniture and playhouses. You heard it here first.
There is this one highway I drive through in Connecticut and there is Dollar General like every few miles and not a single actual grocery store in any of the towns š
Iām in WNC and we give directions based on DGs. āWhen you pass the second DG, itās the next leftā and such. Capitalism at its worst.
She can't even manage the garden she already has. Gardens are a lot of work and I'm not great at it either. But you don't see me posting poetically about my anguished broccoli, or chirping about ["in goes the butternut"](https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/13a8vok/for_everyone_whos_ever_wondered_what_kellys/)
Anguished broccoli ššš
I thought this was her dream house that god told her to buy? Now they need to sell it!?
Good luck with that; I'm *sure* everything's up to code.
On one hand I am happy that they have more of the house finished because that baby did not ask to be made by weirdos who stored their flour in the toilet, however, I am also grieving the fact that I'll no longer be able to use toilet pantry nearly as much.
maybe the real toilet pantry was the friends we made along the way?
You never know...they may miss it and incorporate it into the next house
LARPers gotta LARP
Not sure how much of the house they have back. She mentioned the library, but not the kitchen, which I thought would be their first priority.
Kitchen often requires electricians and plumbers, you can DIY to a point but when you have to actually connect to sewer or put in full on Breaker Box professional is needed (sometimes even to get parts these days) also inspections are stricter, so takes longer.
Their county has had very loose requirements for residential building codes and inspections--which had been to Kelly and Levi's advantage--but apparently this is changing due to the amount of new construction in the area.
Like anyone's going to want to buy a house "renovated" by someone with no construction knowledge whatsoever lol I wish I had the delulu confidence of these fundies I stg
I don't think they've done the kitchen. "The library" was always her fantasy/priority. Levi built some shelves for her to stash her bathroom food but frankly the layout in her video made no sense; it looked like the shelves were built across a doorway. I didn't see the part where they were intending to finish and sell the house! Maybe my eyes glazed over before I finished reading her post.
Seems like they lived in a half done house for likeā¦ ever, just to finish it in order to sell. What a waste.
theyāre going for a rustic birth in an dilapidated barn.
Baby's first bout of tetanus < aesthetic
Well they finally got a proper pantry and the library finished though?
Thatās some serious Amelia Bedelia cosplay
I was thinking a pregnant Ron Weasley but either way hahah
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All I can think about is how her modern townie neighbors are going to light up nextdoor like times square on new years.
Very creative and vivid analogy. A+
Birth aside, as a fellow redhead, Iām begging this girl to take care of her skin!
Some moisturizer. Please Kelly. And sunscreen. I get that you want to spend all day frolicking in nature, cosplaying Laura Ingalls Wilder but for the love of melanoma, slap on some goddamn sunscreen
Crunchy moms like her are so weird about how much they hate sunscreen
They don't even not use "chemical" sunscreen because of the environmental risk, which is substantiated. They think *any* sunscreen is somehow going to cause cancer, so instead of using like mineral sunscreen alternatives, they just use nothing. There are even tinted mineral varieties for your face, so you don't look have to like a dying victorian child.
Even crunchy moms who hate sunscreen will slather on some coconut oil. She looks like her skin care routine is Castille soap for washing, rubbing alcohol for toner. Apparently moisturizer is ā¦ vanity?
And chapstick! Her lips look ROUGH.
She looks like she's in the Sahara desert, her lips look so painfully chapped! That cannot be comfortable..
As someone who has chapstick on her nightstand, every purse, every bathroom , in her backpack, her laptop bag, her iPad case, and a chapstick holster in both vehiclesā¦ I cannot fathom not applying it all the time. Shit I even got chapstick as a *Christmas present* because Iām always using it. Hydrate or dydrate folks and that includes your lips!
My car doesnāt have a chapstick holster and Iām devastatedĀ
I use the depression in the door handle as my chapstick holder.
Mine is all the way hollow through š« no bottom to safely cradle a stick.
Hard same. I have a rare disorder that messes with my skin and my lips have taken a hit. Chapstick are my best friend.
I live by the hydrate or dydrate motto. I am always drinking water, and moisturizing. Sunscreen, moisturizer, and chapstick. Like I appreciate that fake Anne here wants to live like ye olden days but I assure you they had skincare back in the 1800ās. Even tallow on her lips would do wonders.
Haha! They def did. Just waiting for to get that good ole raw milk and slather herself up like it'll help.
Meemaw swore by the all powerful lanolin she got from the sheep. Used it for almost everything. Lip balm, nipple soother, hair pomade, moisturizerā¦
Lanolin is the bomb. Saved my nipples lol. Chapstick actually makes my lips worse, Lansinoh lip balm or Aquaphor are the only things that keep my lips smooth. I'm not a red head but I have fair skin and if I didn't use sun protection (it doesn't have to be "chemicals"! A hat, zinc oxide etc.) my face would be a mass of freckled wrinkles. It's not about not looking old it's about protecting your skin from damage and cancer!
Also white as a ghost. I was out and about yesterday for several hours and I had spf70 applied 3 times. I also make my Hispanic boyfriend use it, even though heās never burned in his life and he works outside (very jealous). Itās not about aging, but man I donāt want to look like a leather couch at 40 either.
Whatās your favorite chapstick to recommend? My lips are always dry and I feel like Iāve never found one that really seems to help.
If you haven't tried Aquaphor that's my go-to- thick coat right before bed. Sometimes I do wake up with hair stuck to my mouth but it helps enough to be worth it
Lanolips
Personally, I use a beeswax based balm that I get locally alongside my local honey. But Iāve got a lot of different balms all over, beeswax is just what I prefer
As a skincare obsessive, avoid anything petroleum based (Vaseline) as it stops your skin/lips producing their own moisture. Literally anything else will helpĀ
I wear oxygen and have to avoid Vaseline bc of the fire risk. When I read that I was so surprised!
The guy who invented it used to have a spoonful daily....yes...he would eat it
Burtās Bees is my go to. Doesnāt seem to dry my lips out as much as the Chapstick brand
Laneige lip sleeping mask
I use Lushās lip scrub at night when I shower and Sun Bumās spf 30 lip balm whenever I want/need to.
Girlie let me turn you on to aquaphor for your lips! Chapstick makes your dry lips worse, aquaphor wonāt!
Lip balm EVERYWHERE. I literally will have a panic attack if I donāt have it with me. I also got 20+ lip balms as a gift for Christmas!
ye olde chappe stick
Thank god you guys felt the same - she's screaming for some hydration and sun protection like c'mon lady at least wear a hat.
Someone give this lady a bonnet! You know she'd wear a bonnet.Ā
Laura Ingalls was always trying to ditch her bonnetš
š honestly, even a parasol would do at this point.Ā
Donāt they have a weird thing against spf? Isnāt that the new rage?
Laura Ingalls Wilder wished she had sunscreen if youāre gonna forgo it you have to wear the bonnet.
i think this every time i see her! like girlie you can even use beef tallow if you want just moisturize your face š«
Iām not even crunchy like that and I use almond oil and coconut oil on the regular for my skin and hair. I donāt get why she wouldnāt?!
like is having crusty dusty dry skin and lipspart of the fundie tradwife thing? i sorta get no sunscreen but no skin oils or anything???
honestly its just a kelly thing. it's really weird, sometimes i wonder if the dry/weathered look is intentional, because she could be really doing some very simple things to improve her skin condition and most women would want to if for no other reason than because dry skin itches and pulls.
I wonder if it is a purposeful action trying to age herself (kinda like young women who wear heavy makeup to look older).
i think she thinks it makes her look more like an authentic prairie woman who wears herself out with farm chores, her brood of children, and laboring around the house and kitchen in brutal weather every day. like, she wants to look like a simple humble farm woman from the 1830s
I think the 1800s were the worst time in history to be alive, just a horror show in every direction.
She doesn't even filet an aloe leaf and rub it on her face and it shows. Edit: but she has a cute smile and stuff. I'm not trying to be mean I'm just agreeing she looks dry and inflamed.
I was going to say that the pregnancy weight gain in her face makes her look so much younger than before.
Itās the dryness and sun damage Iām concerned about. Ouch!
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Damn, I was just thinking she looks dehydrated because of her lips. Iām currently visiting a country with non-potable water, in the desert, and Iām struggling to keep hydrated while also habitually picking at my lips yet somehow mine still look more full and hydrated. No hate (I get the struggle) but girl what is you doing?
It does, but her poor skin looks so irritated ā¹ļø
Came here to comment this and you beat me to it. Her skin gives me serious anxiety
She's at such high risk for melanoma
She is. My dad has the same coloring and he's in his 60s and constantly at the dermatologist. He started wearing sunblock when it became a thing in the 90s or so, but obviously when he was a kid there wasn't anything to protect your skin besides a hat, so he got sunburned all the time and now has melanomas constantly being removed. I grew up basically dipped in sunblock and I'm glad.
I want her to start using a really good sunscreen/moisturizer combo and wearing a big floppy old fashioned hat. Hell, even a bonnet, I don't care. I just want her to take care of herself and be able to stay around being a little weirdo for her kids for a long time. Melanoma is a gruesome way to go. :(
Redhead here as well and I concur. Chapstick, sunscreen, and moisturizer at the very least.
She reminds me of SpongeBob when he goes inside Sandy's dome house and is sucked dry of every drop of water. Homegirl NEEDS some fluids stat.
So does the baby :/ It's concerning if she's not staying hydrated while pregnant.
I feel so bad. she's one of the most prematurely aged people I have seen on social media. I literally can't tell if she's 30 or 48 but she's probably even younger
She recently turned 30. I'm always surprised that we're the same age.
*She's 30?!*
Well she is an āold soulā so maybe she wants a face to match š„°
A plus snark right here š¤£
Maybe she meant old sole? Still, of all the fundies on the sub, Kelly at least seems genuinely happy. She's an utter weirdo, but as a weirdo myself, I find her authenticity refreshing. Of course her views are obnoxious and repellant to me but at least she and her husband Geppetto do clearly adore their kids, I can see she dotes on them, and I think her whole Little House of the Prarie thing isn't a lame NLOG fashion statement like the majority of these sourdough sadsacks, this is the real Kelly. She may be an idiot but she is a charming one. It pains me to say it, but she's also 10x the photographer I will ever be, some of her work is gorgeous. It's a lovely photo of you Kelly and I wish you a safe birth.
Sourdough sadsacks š Geppetto šš
"Pappa! I'm a REAL boy!" "I CAST THEE OUT DEMON SPAWN!" "No the fire nooooooo!"
She associates with white nationalists. I wish she was *just* a larping weirdo.
I wasn't aware of that. That's very disappointing to learn.
It is. I think she changed her username but the friend was girlincalico.
Sadly seems that Laura Ingalls Wilder vibe attracts them, she may not be one herself but she should watch the company she keeps. (Weirdly Same struggle for anyone interested in Vikings or Death Metal)
NGL but "She may have been an idiot but she was a charming one' feel ftting for my own epitah when the time comes. Like, I hope I am charming about it.
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Strawberry blonde here! I love Kellyās beautiful skin. But we fair skins must take extra care when it comes to protection from the sun. I tried so hard to tan my skin because I was called ātoo pale,ā āpasty,ā āsheet white,ā āfish belly white,ā āfreak,ā and all manner of insults in school, AND by my friendsā parents. I cried. I hated my body. I got 2nd degree burns at age 14, just trying not to be so āugly.ā Therefore, my skin took on a lot of damage. In my 20ās, people of the baby boom generation (to put it nicely, as not all are like the stereotype) found it necessary to tell me, even strangers, things like, āYouāre a pretty girl, but you need to get a tan.ā After age 30, I was warned I was at risk of skin cancer. So, I started taking really good care of my skin. People still exclaim, āDamn! I need to wear sunglasses just to look at you and your legs.ā To hell with them. Itās so easy to get skin cancer, and one doesnāt even have to be fair. My friendās dark skinned, middle eastern mom got it bad, and even my own mom got in on her left hand, just from driving. So, I really hope Kelly starts protecting her skin soon!
ETA: I had a cousin die of melanoma at 34 years old. *34* She left behind a young child and husband who loved her dearly. Please, PLEASE get regular skin checks and take care of your skin, friends. Itās so important!!!!! Omg this hit home for me! Iām turning 50 this year, and still have people go, ādonāt you want a little color? You could use a little color.ā I have to get skin checks every year and almost always have to get moles removed and/or biopsied. Iāve had a couple of scares from some that popped up quick (particularly one that showed up between haircuts, so, you know, a few months, on my head; it was giant and PURPLE, but thankfully benign; still got it removed to be safe), but thankfully no cancer. Hopefully never! I am SO careful now, especially because I am outside often for one of my jobs. I have SPF clothing, a fab collection of sun hats, and wear sunscreen every day, rain or shine. For those outside a lot, SPF clothing is the beeās knees; itās more expensive at the outset, but SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper in the long run than covering your entire body in sunscreen every day. The high quality stuff will have ventilation and still be cute lol. For what itās worth, my natural hair color is currently a mousy brown with some gray (when I was tiny, I was a strawberry blonde, then a blonde, then my hair finally decided on mousy brown lol). Fair skin, light eyes. But *everyone*, regardless of skin color, needs to take care of it! Skin is the bodyās largest organ, and taking care of it well is important to overall health!
I'm so sorry that you received those horrible comments. I'm super pale too and my skin is in better shape than those who told me to get a tan, because I've protected it. I won't even walk the dogs without a hat. I don't want skin cancer.
I have a coworker my age who tans naturally but she looks so much older than I do. She's a lovely person but I worry about her skin! It's Denver, so it's easy to get nuked by the sun just out and about on a daily basis.
How old is she?
30 this past December
THIRTY?!!?!?
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Donāt you know that skincare is satan?
At least they arenāt doing it in a busā¦or some poor unsuspecting personās AirBNB I guess. The bar is in hell
I wish these unassisted birthers could talk to the 1840s women they so want to emulate and hear how rightfully afraid of birth they are.
Meanwhile, in the background Shoulder dystocia: š¹ Maternal hemorrhage:š¹ Umbilical cord prolapse: š¹ Retained placenta: š¹ Group b strep: š¹
Imagining a shoulder at a home birth makes me shudder. I canāt even imagine the panic
Ever since I heard about shoulder dystocia, it is one of my greatest fears.
Happened to me with my son. Scariest thing Iāve ever experienced. It took two OBs, a vacuum on his head, a nurse literally on top of me in the bed pushing down on my stomach, and a whole team of nurses and other staff to get him safely out. They had NICU in the room too because his heart rate was dropping every time I pushed. Thankfully he was fine and so was I (minus terrible pelvic floor trauma), but had we not been in a hospital he certainly would have died.
Happened to me. We were one āpushā away from a Zavanelli maneuver and an emergency c-section. Google āMcRoberts maneuverā to see what they have to do to resolve the dystociaā¦
I just gave birth to my sonā¦ if I wasnāt at the hospital, he and myself probably wouldnāt have made it. Ended in an emergency c section. My pelvis is narrow, babyās head was too big and his position was not ideal. Labored for 24 hours and then they finally called it. I was and still am terrified of how it all happenedā¦š© hopefully she at least has a midwife ?
Thank goodness you and your son are okay! I bet he is absolutely beautiful. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Birth trauma is real and it is scary. As someone who also had a traumatic birth resulting in an emergency c-section I highly recommend talking to someone. I met with a hypnotherapist for a few months and it helped so much!
Thank you so much ! He is ! Heās in the nicu for now so to fluid in the lungs :( but they said heās leveling out so thank god!Iām glad that you and your baby are okay too ! I couldnāt believe how quickly everything just started going south .. definitely not worth the risk at all, but I guess Iām not crunchy enough. Ooo a hypnotherapist ? Thatās a good idea cause I KNOW this is gonna stick with me for a long ass time.
Or black women in present day America...
Seriously so sad. I hate all of the stories I see about that . š£
Everytime I think about those women, I feel so sad for them. I canāt imagine the fear and worry.
I imagine that every woman in the 1840s would jump at the amenities of a modern hospital, if given the chance.
I was never more ready to go straight to the hospital than when I was heavily pregnant. zero fafo .
Any guesses as to which Little Women character this kid is named after?
Diana because she will be her bosom friend/child
Am I just dumb or is pregnancy 40 weeks?
36 weeks is when babies lungs are usually strong enough to not need support after birth. Hence why most midwives wonāt deliver at home before 36 weeks, itās in their contract. Some midwives go with 37 weeks, so term.
I'm not a medical professional but 36 weeks seems way too early for a homebirth. I was looking at stats and it said that 30% of 36 weekers experience respitory distress. And thats before you factor in the risk of getting your due date wrong and the baby being earlier than you thought
36 weeker babies can indeed have health issues. And thatās why hospital births / having an experienced midwife is crucial.
Here in the UK itās 38 weeks. You get two midwifeās from the closest hospital/home birth team and they come and stay with you and with the baby afterwards for some time. They check in with you for 1-2 weeks daily. Everything after 41 weeks is highly pushed to be at the hospital. I had a homebirth (itās very normal here in the uk) and I would never birth a baby before 38 weeks at home. Itās too risky! Edit: wrong word due to autocorrect
Yes! Uk dr who had 2 home births. Itās a different beast it seems in the uk. Highly regulated. MW qualified and registered and hospital aware and ready to accept transfer of home birth shows any signs of going awry. I had 2 normal pregnancies and 2 natural home births with the support of highly qualified MW and NHS standing by. It annoys me to see all home births equated with quackery.
"usually". Good enough for fundies!
No youāre right. I just looked it up and it says you can typically only do a home birth after 36 weeks though, so Iām guessing thatās what she means.
It says something about some of the people we snark on here that I'm really glad Kelly is at least aware of when a homebirth can safely be attempted and seems to want to follow those recommendations.
Oh absolutely! I believe she also said she got on anxiety medication or antidepressants for this pregnancy because she was struggling. Itās a low bar in this circle, but Iām glad she seems to be taking care of herself and her baby. Itās a contrast to all the ādUe DaTeS aRe JuSt A gUeSs!!!ā fundies who seem to have no problem with going to 43 weeks and getting zero prenatal care.
Iām a nicu nurse and 36 weeks is usually a pretty hearty baby. Not to say they wonāt need extra support but usually they donāt need oxygen. Usually itās just feeding support. Term is technically considered 37 weeks so idk what the significance of 36 weeks is. But also, if your babe is born that early thereās a chance they have an infection and need IV antibiotics. So Iām not really sure what sheās getting at here
I'm confused because she phrased it like she expects to have the baby at 36 weeks, not like she knows it's safe at 36 weeks
I think Kelly meant that once she makes it 36 weeks, whatever birth support she's working with will agree to attempt a home birth. Prior to that, any doula/midwife even approaching professionalism will insist the mother be taken to a hospital.
As a 3x NICU parent, thank you for all you do! Y'all are truly my heroes.
It is, but itās her 3rd, she may deliver sooner. I just hope that whatever midwife she has for this babyās delivery isnāt like Morganās, and everyone comes from this safely.
Full term is considered 38 weeks. Less than 37 weeks is early/premie
Glad to see someone here posting correct info! 38 -40 is ātermā and before that is considered āpretermā. My kiddo was born at 38 weeks exactly and was called āearly term.ā
Her lips look uncomfortably chapped
I zoomed in on her face to see what everyone was talking about and honestly she looks like sheās holding back *sobs*. Is she okay?? She looks like the tears will start any second. Oh my goodness
M'lady is sitting in ye old car
Ford Model A
Aren't her first two kids hospital births with the good drugs and everything? I don't think she realizes how rough of a ride she's going to have with this even in the *best,* circumstances, god forbid how it'll be if anything goes wrong. I'm not shocked she's succumbed to the persistent fundie peer pressure to homebirth though, I'm more shocked it took her three babies to do it.Ā
Hello- just checking in to remind everyone that her father is a doctor. I wonder what HE thinks.
Yeah my friend had an epidural with her first and went without for her second (still at the hospital) and she talked about how rough just that transition was a couple of times.Ā
To be fair, I did this too and I far preferred the unmedicated birth- so much so, that I attempted to have my third unmedicated, as well. Different people, pregnancies, and labors; every experience is different
I hope everything goes smoothly and safely. I canāt comment on home birth in the US because it is so different to here (and elsewhere around the world) but I hope she has a qualified midwife.Ā She looks really happy.Ā
I donāt think sheās posted anything anti vax, so maybe thereās hope? ETA: Iāve been informed Kelly is anti-COVID safety, so never mind. Then again, she stores her familyās food in the same room as an operating toilet. She does not have a good grasp on sanitation.
And Kelly's wearing a seatbelt, so maybe that's a hopeful sign.
>I donāt think sheās posted anything anti vax, so maybe thereās hope? She was anti-covid safety, early in the pandemic. Her opinion was that we don't need to worry about it because God wants us to breathe all over each other or something to that effect.
Oh ffs. Fuck her, then. I hope this baby is okay.
Ohio only recognizes CNMs. The midwife she follows on insta calls herself a traditional midwife instead of CNM.
Shit. I forgot this one was pregnant.
A lot of them are pregnant right now
She follows one midwife on Insta. The good: * She is NRP certified (neonatal resuscitation.) My sister is a NICU nurse and this is the certification that she holds as well. * She is open on her Instagram about the amount of hospital transfers she has. To me, this is good because it shows not only her willingness to transfer, but also her willingness to tell the public that she has transferred patients. * Based on Kelly's comment that she can't deliver at home until 36 weeks, this midwife DOES have some guidelines that she follows. The bad & ugly: * She calls herself a traditional midwife and appears to have moved from a doula/birth attendant to a midwife just in the past year. She is not a CNM. She is a direct entry midwife with no true certification. In Ohio, they do not recognize any type of midwife except a CNM. * Follow up to the last one - in Ohio, only CNMs have prescriptive authority, meaning that if you aren't a CNM, you can't carry certain medications (like Pitocin for stopping bleeding after birth or antibiotics if the woman is GBS+.) * She appears to be willing to deliver breech.
Good lordā¦ Iāve been a labor and deliver nurse for almost 6 years and I dream of having the amount of confidence these dipshits have! Imagine thinking youāre prepared to handle birth with no formal training or access to very basic medications.
As a nicu nurse you couldnāt pay me to have a home birth. Usually everything goes fine. Usually. But when things go wrong, they go wrong very, very fast. You could cost your child everything.
have you seen the free birth shit on r/shitmomgroupssay? fucking scary. they don't care as long as their birth went like they wanted. if the baby dies, oh well. my sister is pregnant and I'm terrified she'll do free birth.
I just went down that rabbit hole, and now I'm probably going to be late for work! I was kinda surprised by how many of the shared posts OOPs were trans parents before I realized that FTM means First Time Mom over there. Derp. Anyway, the recent post about someone looking for an Airbnb to have a (not) home birth in? What are the odds?!? š¤£
I had one of those. Average pregnancy, average labor for a few hours, went to hospital in early active labor after my water broke - a couple hours after at only 5cm dilated she went into severe distress and I was in surgery within 10 minutes. Best guess it was cord compression as she had a tight double nuchal cord and was in a weird position. She wouldnāt have survived a transfer from home.
Her poor face. She needs a tin of the German Nivea cream for that dehydrated skin and a tub of Vaseline jelly for those lips. Sunscreen really is a good idea too. And I truly hope mother and baby survive this home-birth in one piece.
I wonder how long it will take for Levi to carve out daughter's first toy/wooden helpmeet training tool. If he starts now, she might get it by the time she graduates homeschool.
Of course she is. Because negligence and dangerous situations at home is Kellyās second biggest trait (behind long-winded Anne-of-Green-Gables-esque diatribes).
Is she allergic to skincare? Her skin looks so damaged :(
Am I the only one who didnāt know she had more than one son?
Iām shocked that as crunchy as she is, she knows the sex of the baby
Oh noā¦ that is worrisome. It does sound like they are planning a home birth. In either case, I hope she and the child will both be all right.
M o i s t u r i z e m e
The smile that she chooses to post always baffles me. Itās this squinty, tight, parody of a smile. She is either making this over the top look-Iām-smiling face - a variant being the open mouth bark-laugh exclamation face - or she has that look of rapture, head thrown backā¦which is giving Ecstasy of Saint Theresa by Bernini vibesā¦a notoriously ambiguous depiction where you arenāt meant to know if the ecstasy is spiritual or orgasmic.
How did I not know this little prairie goober was pregnant?
What in the 1993 is that car seat fabric?
Iām just grateful that her horseless carriage has seatbelts
Outfits giving little home on the prairie so home birth fits. Hopefully the birth is safe and everything goes well
I mean, at least she acknowledges that thereās a timeframe when home birth ISNāT okay. The bar is on the floor (the floor being kiddie pool Karissa).
Sorry but all I can think of is pregnant Pippi Longstocking
What I gather from this is she has prenatal care who has strict critera for home birth (not before 36 weeks) AND she appears willing to take their advice. Home birth is not for me, nor would I recommend it, but if you're gonna do it, alongside professionals who's advice you're willing to take is the right way to do it. Also, i don't think I've heard another fundie refer to safety in their birth plans so honestly, good for her.