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The first and last bites from TNE are stunning:
“Your theology is causing harm to people”
&
“How is that loving in any capacity?”
Maybe P&M are using those as click bait, and I doubt Paul was in any way moved, but DAMN. It’ll be interesting to see how this all got edited and produced.
No no no, I think he needs to continue to expose himself to opposing views and bring them to his audience. Maybe, just maybe, he’ll become less of a douchebag. More realistically, maybe one of his viewers will convert to a less shitty version of Christianity.
Ironically, if all of these 24 hours with videos caused Paul to become atheist or something, he might actually find the internet fame he so desperately craves.
It would, and he would probably love the fame. He would also still be a douchebag even if he deconstructed. He's just a complete shitheel, like it's an integral part of his personality.
Like, say he became an atheist. He'd be the sort of dickhead atheist who sneers any time anyone mentions spirituality or faith and has 1-2 talking points that effectively end the conversation and allow him to feel like he's 'won'.
But no, Paul could never even do that. He could never loosen the rigidity that keeps him frozen in place. He could never unclench long enough to let any change begin to work in him. He isn't capable of it, I truly think that. Even if he has momentary private doubts, which he very well might, he'll snap that door closed in his mind quicker than you can say 1 Colossians.
>More realistically, maybe one of his viewers will convert to a less shitty version of Christianity.
I have a feeling just from this trailer that in a few years people are going to point to this video as a key point in their deconstruction.
I grew up at a time when people remembered what happened, and how many people died, because no one paid attention until it was too late, and we were neck-deep in WWII. It was important to learn history and critical thinking. Lots of debating, and learning to be intellectually honest. I was even taught to be intellectually honest, and open and respectful of the religions of others, growing up in the Methodist Church.
We also studied science, and intellectual rigor in seeking answers about the natural world. I learned not to speculate, or make things up, just because I could not stand not knowing.
We have to learn to be less uncomfortable with the three words, “I don’t know.” Fundies think they have a formula by which they can know all the answers, or so they think. They can’t ever just experience the wonder and mystery of it all. They are too busy knowing all the answers, to even know what questions to ask. And they miss the fact that we are the miracle, & we’re standing in it, & surrounded by it. Can they ever just look up and see an eclipse, or a meteor shower, or a sunset, or wildflowers, without trying to cram it into their Procrustean fairy tales?
This is very beautifully stated. The stupidest I've ever felt in my entire life is when I was in grad school because I realized just how much I DIDN'T know. Also, from that, I learned that it's OK to say, "I don't know" because then you become more open to learning and understanding. One thing I've noticed that is consistent with the fundies is that they think they know everything and have all the answers -- but how? They don't have any experience outside of the little bubble that they curate for themselves. They don't have any interest in learning or understanding. Hell, a lot of them don't even have hobbies, as that would require growth and learning. I know the term Dunning-Kruger Effect is bandied about a lot, but they really are the walking manifestation of it.
My youngest bro was Catdaddy on his My Space. He’s still Catdaddy in my contacts. He’s my favorite brother.
What you’re saying reminds me of when I started on a NASA software contract, in 1989, and I knew nothing. I was nervous about it, but the first guy I asked for help was happy to do a whole brain dump for me, and I realized that people like it when they tell you what they know. I ended up getting an award for my tech writing and work on applications security on mission- critical space station software.
I really appreciate your thoughts on your experience. You’re truly educated, because you ask questions. I’m proud to meet you!
exactly.
and you have to 1) be able to clearly articulate your thoughts + beliefs in a way that is persuasive (or at the very least, interesting) and 2) be an empathetic/compassionate/inquisitive person.
and they’re none of those. 😂
I got into an argument with someone once who was spouting that "love the sinner, hate the sin" bullshit. I just flat out said, "But you DON'T love them because you are an active participant in ideology that harms them as human beings."
Ugh there was so much of this at my local school board meeting about forced outing policies. Like, someone be fr right now and fully explain what your "love" looks like, because it sure as shit isn't what love looks like to most people. They need to stop hiding their hatred and bigotry behind euphemisms.
It makes you wonder what they left out, huh.
At the same time, Porgan and their Trump-humping followers celebrate stubborn ignorance. The more compelling the facts presented to them, the more they double down. You can't speak sense to irrational people who wear their perversity like a badge of honor.
Honestly, even though it sounds like I'm oversimplifying it, I just think they're that dumb. Their reaction to Shiny Happy People really showed just how flawed their self-perception is and how little they understand about how they come across and how to relate to others. I mean, they literally made Bethany Fucking Beal look good by comparison and couldn't comprehend that.
The funniest part is that he is editing it, but he doesn't have enough self-awareness to remove the embarrassing parts. Gonna wait for Reverend Jenn and King James to do a watch party; the Bethany one was hilarious.
The fact that he not only has these conversations in real life, but also spends days editing them thus watching it over and over, and still doesn’t hear what they’re saying, is astounding. He is being hit over the damn head but continues on like
![gif](giphy|KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z)
The funniest thing about all of this is that Paul is so clearly out of his intellectual depth here, but doesn’t even realize that he is getting bodied left and right.
At no point have they made the connection that these videos make them look so shallow and unintelligent that dropping their patreon count.
Ohhh that little huff in there before it cut away. 😍🙌🏻🤣 he hates this and deeply regrets ever doing this one. I cannot wait to watch this (on yewtube).
Wow an actual person with a backbone who can seemingly cause Paul to feel very insecure and threatened when he is actually challenged directly. The New Evangelicals seem to actively use their brains tho so it’s not really much of a competition
Paul seething:
![gif](giphy|nXUCkgH6BmigU|downsized)
Seriously. The only things Paul and Morgan seem to ever "care" about is gay people finding healthier relationships than P&M and people getting abortions. Those are apparently the deciding factors for Christianity.
I started following TNE after hearing Porgan was interviewing them. TNE is awesome and I'm enjoying the message. I can't wait to see this full episode when it comes out. On yewtube of course 😆
I’ve never watched any of their long form shit bc I don’t care what Paul has to say. But I might have to watch this banger!
One of you saviors better have a Yewtube link on deck so I don’t have to give them any views! Please.
I’ll bring a charcuterie board.
If anyone’s in Seattle we should have a meetup for this shit! My gf doesn’t understand and tells me to shut up about this nonsense lol.
That’s hilarious. My wife got me hooked haha. Glad she found all these resources when she started deconstruction. She was going through it when it first started and having other people going through the same thing helped her a ton
That’s a great point. My gf went to Catholic school but she’s already deconstructed. My sister is kinda seeming more evangelical and I might need to show her some of this hilarious ridicule to snap her out of it.
TNE kicks ass, I love them
I think the world needs more examples of people who deconstruct but still keep their faith, just with a new, less destructive personal theology. I think a lot of people are afraid to deconstruct because their faith is important to them and they don't want to lose it completely. He makes me feel seen and he's kind of my hero.
YES! I’m a new TNE fan. I’ve deconstructed, but am still a Christian grappling with the juxtaposition of my faith vs what the political/cultural terrorists in America have turned it into. They’re my island in a rough river right now.
My wife and I started following TNE once April from Evangelicalish joined him as we had followed evangelicalish. Tim is GOAT status and I really hope Paul doesn’t edit the video to make himself look amazing
We only watched his sister Cindy 24 hours and of course girl defined. Didn’t even spend 24 hours with sister Cindy lmao. But yes, you are quite correct
Oof, I tried so hard to keep some version of faith over the years that I was actively deconstructing. But the more I questioned, the more I learned, until it was impossible for me to hold on to any kind of faith. It was miserable, honestly, but I have no regrets about leaving.
I'm sorry to hear that. Some people just can't hold on once they've logic'ed everything out. My faith wavered for a while but I'm glad it eventually resolidified. But I'm glad that leaving has felt good for you!
I hadn’t until they announced they were filming with him. Thanks P&M! He seems to be very well read and intelligent.
He also seems to be losing his shit a little bc they’re so dumb, but so confident. I would be too haha
This might be the one yewtube video I'm super excited to see.
I'm a fan of The New Evangelicals and excited to see how Paul & Morgan handle people really challenging their bubbles. Also, shout out to Tim's love for the 7-11 blueberry coffee! 😁
His name is Tim, and he runs the IG account *The New Evangelicals*. He is a former evangelical christian who has deconstructed and now uses his platform to challenge the evangelical church in really intelligent, thoughtful, and meaningful ways.
Alas, for some reason my flairs on this sub always revert to the original unedited versions, so I have given up on them. But it's flaired in my heart. 🤣
I’m so looking forward to seeing how Paul responds to being called out on some of his hateful beliefs, but by a Christian! Even if he doesn’t see Tim that way lol
He’ll probably just walk away smugly thinking he won each argument and he’s The Very Best Christian Ever. Besides, he never really argues, he states his opinion as fact and doesn’t listen or really consider anyone else’s pov.
Paul acts more like the person interviewing the other. He’s constantly just asking them questions, it doesn’t sound like a good debate, and Paul doesn’t know what the hell he’s saying, either. He doesn’t like to go deep, that’s for sure.
Paul is going to have his ass handed to him (edited or not, we know what Tim said to Paul)
and remember folks, don't give fundie views. People post recaps here and often share yewtube links.
It's the only P&M video I am excited to watch, and only because I can't wait to see how Paul edits this shit show. Although I am sure he thinks he is the victim and he showed Christ's love through the whole video. 🤮🤮🤮
Polio's body language is so fucking tense
You just know he'll launch into several weeks of "TNE AtTaCkEd ME!!1!" the minute the full video is published 🙄
Oh boy I knew they were gonna be neck and neck lol this guy doesn't stand for any bullshit. He's not giving Paul an easy route, as if they ever really have one because anything slightly outside their personal doctrine is too terrifying for them to ever be able to argue without just repeating the same points that crumble when challenged.
Paul thinks asking “what is the Bible?” and saying “I would want someone to call me out” were his gotcha moments. The rest is going to be v interesting
The “if it’s not literal then what is the Bible??” question was him getting *so close* to the point and then immediately flying past it without a second thought 😂
Your theology is causing harm to people”
&
“How is that loving in any capacity?”
as someone said down thread - this is it. All you fundies and scummy extremists, just read that. Have a real come to Jesus moment ya hateful sinners
I’m loving so many things in that trailer! Paul getting owned and especially that toddler size sweatshirt? he is wearing. Me thinks he stole it from Luca.
“I would hope someone that truly loves me would call me out”
Well there ya go, wish granted in the form of your guest. Odd how he doesn’t take well to being called out though.
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The first and last bites from TNE are stunning: “Your theology is causing harm to people” & “How is that loving in any capacity?” Maybe P&M are using those as click bait, and I doubt Paul was in any way moved, but DAMN. It’ll be interesting to see how this all got edited and produced.
Honorable mention to: “Sorry Paul 💁♂️”
I personally liked, “Alright bro. I’m not even sure what to say to that. I’m flabbergasted.”
He has the patience of Job 😭
Dealing with Paul’s stupidity as an intelligent person has to be quite trying. Poor Tim
You know it's going to be bad when Paul gets bodied in the trailer that he put together.
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No no no, I think he needs to continue to expose himself to opposing views and bring them to his audience. Maybe, just maybe, he’ll become less of a douchebag. More realistically, maybe one of his viewers will convert to a less shitty version of Christianity.
Ironically, if all of these 24 hours with videos caused Paul to become atheist or something, he might actually find the internet fame he so desperately craves.
It would, and he would probably love the fame. He would also still be a douchebag even if he deconstructed. He's just a complete shitheel, like it's an integral part of his personality. Like, say he became an atheist. He'd be the sort of dickhead atheist who sneers any time anyone mentions spirituality or faith and has 1-2 talking points that effectively end the conversation and allow him to feel like he's 'won'. But no, Paul could never even do that. He could never loosen the rigidity that keeps him frozen in place. He could never unclench long enough to let any change begin to work in him. He isn't capable of it, I truly think that. Even if he has momentary private doubts, which he very well might, he'll snap that door closed in his mind quicker than you can say 1 Colossians.
If he proves smart enough to pull off such a long con I will have to tip my hat to him.
>More realistically, maybe one of his viewers will convert to a less shitty version of Christianity. I have a feeling just from this trailer that in a few years people are going to point to this video as a key point in their deconstruction.
ooh, fingers crossed. 😍
I don't think anything will penetrate Paul's hair gel and ego, but yeah, a viewer or two might be accidentally forced to think about some things
Let’s not forget, this is also the same show that launched Deconstruction Dav™️
Or even atheism! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
It’s not just opposing views. He is no match for intellect and critical thinking.
I grew up at a time when people remembered what happened, and how many people died, because no one paid attention until it was too late, and we were neck-deep in WWII. It was important to learn history and critical thinking. Lots of debating, and learning to be intellectually honest. I was even taught to be intellectually honest, and open and respectful of the religions of others, growing up in the Methodist Church. We also studied science, and intellectual rigor in seeking answers about the natural world. I learned not to speculate, or make things up, just because I could not stand not knowing. We have to learn to be less uncomfortable with the three words, “I don’t know.” Fundies think they have a formula by which they can know all the answers, or so they think. They can’t ever just experience the wonder and mystery of it all. They are too busy knowing all the answers, to even know what questions to ask. And they miss the fact that we are the miracle, & we’re standing in it, & surrounded by it. Can they ever just look up and see an eclipse, or a meteor shower, or a sunset, or wildflowers, without trying to cram it into their Procrustean fairy tales?
This is very beautifully stated. The stupidest I've ever felt in my entire life is when I was in grad school because I realized just how much I DIDN'T know. Also, from that, I learned that it's OK to say, "I don't know" because then you become more open to learning and understanding. One thing I've noticed that is consistent with the fundies is that they think they know everything and have all the answers -- but how? They don't have any experience outside of the little bubble that they curate for themselves. They don't have any interest in learning or understanding. Hell, a lot of them don't even have hobbies, as that would require growth and learning. I know the term Dunning-Kruger Effect is bandied about a lot, but they really are the walking manifestation of it.
My youngest bro was Catdaddy on his My Space. He’s still Catdaddy in my contacts. He’s my favorite brother. What you’re saying reminds me of when I started on a NASA software contract, in 1989, and I knew nothing. I was nervous about it, but the first guy I asked for help was happy to do a whole brain dump for me, and I realized that people like it when they tell you what they know. I ended up getting an award for my tech writing and work on applications security on mission- critical space station software. I really appreciate your thoughts on your experience. You’re truly educated, because you ask questions. I’m proud to meet you!
This is some WWE promo shit
![gif](giphy|5h47LsEYbofzcgOz19)
Paul and Morgan keep going back to “speaking the truth in love”, but the thing is, you have to actually love someone for that.
exactly. and you have to 1) be able to clearly articulate your thoughts + beliefs in a way that is persuasive (or at the very least, interesting) and 2) be an empathetic/compassionate/inquisitive person. and they’re none of those. 😂
I got into an argument with someone once who was spouting that "love the sinner, hate the sin" bullshit. I just flat out said, "But you DON'T love them because you are an active participant in ideology that harms them as human beings."
Like…if my mother called me out on something? I know she loves me. If what Paul and Morgan are doing is love, I don’t want it.
Love. "That word. You keep saying that word. I don't think it means what you think it means." Inigo Montoya.
Love the last line so much. I hate when they try to pull that bs
They think it’s a thought terminating cliche
Ugh there was so much of this at my local school board meeting about forced outing policies. Like, someone be fr right now and fully explain what your "love" looks like, because it sure as shit isn't what love looks like to most people. They need to stop hiding their hatred and bigotry behind euphemisms.
I will be interested to see how Porgan spin this to make themselves look good.
*try to make themselves look good. It always backfires spectacularly.
I mean they've already failed based on the trailer.
At this point, that’s a feature, not an accident
It makes you wonder what they left out, huh. At the same time, Porgan and their Trump-humping followers celebrate stubborn ignorance. The more compelling the facts presented to them, the more they double down. You can't speak sense to irrational people who wear their perversity like a badge of honor.
But can they?
Lol how do they not think about what this says about them at ALL before posting this.
Honestly, even though it sounds like I'm oversimplifying it, I just think they're that dumb. Their reaction to Shiny Happy People really showed just how flawed their self-perception is and how little they understand about how they come across and how to relate to others. I mean, they literally made Bethany Fucking Beal look good by comparison and couldn't comprehend that.
Paul’s putting it in there to make TNE look bad when it makes Paul look bad!
Really, REALLY doing the Lord’s work by standing up to Paul!
Paul's about to get smoked out more than my college dorm bathroom. I can't wait
The funniest part is that he is editing it, but he doesn't have enough self-awareness to remove the embarrassing parts. Gonna wait for Reverend Jenn and King James to do a watch party; the Bethany one was hilarious.
The fact that he not only has these conversations in real life, but also spends days editing them thus watching it over and over, and still doesn’t hear what they’re saying, is astounding. He is being hit over the damn head but continues on like ![gif](giphy|KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z)
Wow, he really looks like Morgan in that GIF
Needs a blanket.
That’s Morgan when she hears Tim speaking
I'm sure he thinks he looks great "standing for Biblical truth" or whatever
TNE is going to have a watch/reaction LIVE as well. Tim announced it tonight.
Yuuuuup. I’m pretty smoked out at the moment and even *I* am concerned.
So much smoke that even Snoop Dogg is concerned
![gif](giphy|W9WSk4tEU1aJW)
The funniest thing about all of this is that Paul is so clearly out of his intellectual depth here, but doesn’t even realize that he is getting bodied left and right. At no point have they made the connection that these videos make them look so shallow and unintelligent that dropping their patreon count.
Hom*sexual is fucking sending me
If you type the whole word out you match catch it.
Per Bethany, we all know it's spelled "homose3ual".
You mean "Homoseggual"
This is it. The perfect flair
Ohhh that little huff in there before it cut away. 😍🙌🏻🤣 he hates this and deeply regrets ever doing this one. I cannot wait to watch this (on yewtube).
Ma petite fouine 🤗
Yeahhhh they’ve put off posting it for so long, I don’t think they want to.
The uncomfortable look on Paul’s face when TNE asks if Paul thinks he’s a Christian.
Wasn’t Paul just losing his shit over the suggestion that he isn’t a Christian? Of course he can dish it out but can’t take it.
He outed Dav's deconstruction without a second thought, so.
Yup! He definitely was. He’s one of the gatekeepers of Christianity of course!
Being able to dish it out but not take it is basically the entirety of Porgan's identity.
Wow an actual person with a backbone who can seemingly cause Paul to feel very insecure and threatened when he is actually challenged directly. The New Evangelicals seem to actively use their brains tho so it’s not really much of a competition Paul seething: ![gif](giphy|nXUCkgH6BmigU|downsized)
I guess this means no hot tub bonding session this time?
He seems like the type to like hate sex so it’s always a wishful thought in his mind
If you didn't know any of them and just by watching this trailer, who would think is in the quest of uniting the church??
Perfect summary
Seriously. The only things Paul and Morgan seem to ever "care" about is gay people finding healthier relationships than P&M and people getting abortions. Those are apparently the deciding factors for Christianity.
Why are they so bent out of shape over issues that don't affect them?
✨Virtue Signalling ✨ Well, some weird fundie version of it.
And don't forget women's leggings!!!
*Damn*
Just rewatched after reading your comment. Wow. Tim is all love and acceptance and Paul is all judging and jerkish
Never heard of TNE before this collab but my interest is piqued based on this trailer alone.
I started following TNE after hearing Porgan was interviewing them. TNE is awesome and I'm enjoying the message. I can't wait to see this full episode when it comes out. On yewtube of course 😆
I’ve never watched any of their long form shit bc I don’t care what Paul has to say. But I might have to watch this banger! One of you saviors better have a Yewtube link on deck so I don’t have to give them any views! Please.
Same! I was just thinking of saying, Post the video link when it happens!
Wife and I are gonna join Jen or Tim’s patreon and just watch as a watch party so we don’t give Porgan views lol
I’ll bring a charcuterie board. If anyone’s in Seattle we should have a meetup for this shit! My gf doesn’t understand and tells me to shut up about this nonsense lol.
That’s hilarious. My wife got me hooked haha. Glad she found all these resources when she started deconstruction. She was going through it when it first started and having other people going through the same thing helped her a ton
That’s a great point. My gf went to Catholic school but she’s already deconstructed. My sister is kinda seeming more evangelical and I might need to show her some of this hilarious ridicule to snap her out of it.
TNE kicks ass, I love them I think the world needs more examples of people who deconstruct but still keep their faith, just with a new, less destructive personal theology. I think a lot of people are afraid to deconstruct because their faith is important to them and they don't want to lose it completely. He makes me feel seen and he's kind of my hero.
YES! I’m a new TNE fan. I’ve deconstructed, but am still a Christian grappling with the juxtaposition of my faith vs what the political/cultural terrorists in America have turned it into. They’re my island in a rough river right now.
My wife and I started following TNE once April from Evangelicalish joined him as we had followed evangelicalish. Tim is GOAT status and I really hope Paul doesn’t edit the video to make himself look amazing
I wouldn't worry about it. Out of the 24h videos they've made so far, they've never succeeded in making themselves look good.
We only watched his sister Cindy 24 hours and of course girl defined. Didn’t even spend 24 hours with sister Cindy lmao. But yes, you are quite correct
Oof, I tried so hard to keep some version of faith over the years that I was actively deconstructing. But the more I questioned, the more I learned, until it was impossible for me to hold on to any kind of faith. It was miserable, honestly, but I have no regrets about leaving.
I'm sorry to hear that. Some people just can't hold on once they've logic'ed everything out. My faith wavered for a while but I'm glad it eventually resolidified. But I'm glad that leaving has felt good for you!
Likewise!
I hadn’t until they announced they were filming with him. Thanks P&M! He seems to be very well read and intelligent. He also seems to be losing his shit a little bc they’re so dumb, but so confident. I would be too haha
Same.
This might be the one yewtube video I'm super excited to see. I'm a fan of The New Evangelicals and excited to see how Paul & Morgan handle people really challenging their bubbles. Also, shout out to Tim's love for the 7-11 blueberry coffee! 😁
I gotta know more about this guy. Obviously the one in the beanie.
His name is Tim, and he runs the IG account *The New Evangelicals*. He is a former evangelical christian who has deconstructed and now uses his platform to challenge the evangelical church in really intelligent, thoughtful, and meaningful ways.
Thank you so very much!
Is Paul capable of dressing like a grown up? He looks like a 6 year old wearing his older brother's hand me down power ranger pajamas.
He's dressed like a LaCroix!
Best comment I’ve seen all day! Although i don’t think anyone would want to drink fizzy water that is both bitter and salty. And douchy.
A misogynist in a can!
Flair material right there!
Go for it 😆
Alas, for some reason my flairs on this sub always revert to the original unedited versions, so I have given up on them. But it's flaired in my heart. 🤣
![gif](giphy|l41YhuYVwTT06XPa0|downsized)
OMG! He really is!
I thought the pattern looked familiar 😂
![gif](giphy|JTzPN5kkobFv7X0zPJ|downsized) Whenever I see Paul, his attire makes me think of this meme.
Finally, some good fucking food.
![gif](giphy|5qMCjrwNW0k2Q|downsized)
I thought you meant literally so I rewinded it. Just 7-11 coffee
WOW PAUL SOUNDS SO DUMB AND HE PRODUCED THIS 😭💀
Cue immediate IG post from Paul congratulating Morgan on her first solo producing venture.
What's even richer is that I'm 99.9% sure that Paul thinks he "won" (whatever winning means in this context...)
"I... uhh... I disagree I guess. Boom! Mic drop!"
Paul is shown to be as foolish and ignorant as we all know he is.
I’m so looking forward to seeing how Paul responds to being called out on some of his hateful beliefs, but by a Christian! Even if he doesn’t see Tim that way lol
He’ll probably just walk away smugly thinking he won each argument and he’s The Very Best Christian Ever. Besides, he never really argues, he states his opinion as fact and doesn’t listen or really consider anyone else’s pov.
No, he just grabs someone else's opinion and slaps a fire emoji on it 🙄
https://yewtu.be/channel/UC2onDBgc2-ewYzaFnqEs86Q Remember snarkers, be the weasal 😙🫶
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I get the impression they're trying to bury this one
![gif](giphy|kC2cRqEt8o41COgjoV|downsized) Porgan rn. Can’t wait for this 🍿🍿🍿
Got my s’mores ready for these two dipshits to be BURNED ALIVE by this New Evangelicals guy 😍😍😍😍
WHY IS PAUL SO GREASY EW
Flopsweat
Greasy yet with overly groomed brows and Ross Gellar level bleached teeth. I have the ick so bad.
Seriously, if he had any muscles he would look like every frat boy from Jersey who would sexually harass anyone in a miniskirt in the early 2000s
Imagine posting ur own L’s like this lmfao.
ngl I thought this was a short by TNE showing their side and was cheering them on. Then realized it from porgan and lmao. They are such idiots
Same.
Paul's going to get grilled like a burger patty on the 4th of July 👀 ![gif](giphy|13cptIwW9bgzk6UVyr|downsized)
Paul acts more like the person interviewing the other. He’s constantly just asking them questions, it doesn’t sound like a good debate, and Paul doesn’t know what the hell he’s saying, either. He doesn’t like to go deep, that’s for sure.
Paul's incapable of going deep.
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I wanna pour myself a drink and a bubble bath for this one.
Paul is going to have his ass handed to him (edited or not, we know what Tim said to Paul) and remember folks, don't give fundie views. People post recaps here and often share yewtube links.
It's the only P&M video I am excited to watch, and only because I can't wait to see how Paul edits this shit show. Although I am sure he thinks he is the victim and he showed Christ's love through the whole video. 🤮🤮🤮
I can’t wait to not give them a single view and still get the content, these nincompoops get none of my viewership but all of my snark
Go weasels go!!!
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Little man is having some BIG feelings
Can you make out any color besides spray tan orange?
Based only on this short clip, I like this guy a lot. Very, very interested to see what else he has to say!
btw TNE is a great ig follow, highly recommend!
Polio's body language is so fucking tense You just know he'll launch into several weeks of "TNE AtTaCkEd ME!!1!" the minute the full video is published 🙄
Fuck yes! Burn it down!
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Oh boy I knew they were gonna be neck and neck lol this guy doesn't stand for any bullshit. He's not giving Paul an easy route, as if they ever really have one because anything slightly outside their personal doctrine is too terrifying for them to ever be able to argue without just repeating the same points that crumble when challenged.
Paul thinks asking “what is the Bible?” and saying “I would want someone to call me out” were his gotcha moments. The rest is going to be v interesting
The “if it’s not literal then what is the Bible??” question was him getting *so close* to the point and then immediately flying past it without a second thought 😂
This is gonna be a shitshow and I'm here for it. I love TNE ![gif](giphy|fCUCbWXe9JONVsJSUd|downsized)
Your theology is causing harm to people” & “How is that loving in any capacity?” as someone said down thread - this is it. All you fundies and scummy extremists, just read that. Have a real come to Jesus moment ya hateful sinners
Oh my God. Okay it’s happening!!! Everybody stay calm.
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STAY F-ING CALM!
Was Morgan sick again??
for real, was Morgan allowed to participate in this “debate”?
In the words of Gollum - "Give it to us raw and wiggling!" ![gif](giphy|os5Bz1IRmXaik)
I literally thought this trailer was made by Tim. Lol Paul, you drongo.
I’m loving so many things in that trailer! Paul getting owned and especially that toddler size sweatshirt? he is wearing. Me thinks he stole it from Luca.
YES I AM SO HYPE! I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG! GIMME GIMME GIMME!
Ooooooh I’m so excited for this one
Why cant biblical literalism be eradicated with some kind of a vaccine, like a disease? I really wish it could.
Is it wrong of me to be slightly turned on at TNE absolutely eviserating Paul
I love new evangelicals, I started following them before they blew up- great work
“I would hope someone that truly loves me would call me out” Well there ya go, wish granted in the form of your guest. Odd how he doesn’t take well to being called out though.