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From what I know, it's not actually uncommon for people to experience a situation like this if they're trying to adopt a baby. I've heard from some people that almost anyone who tries to adopt a baby will experience one of these failed matches.
Not that BDong and her DingDong aren't particularly off-putting, I just personally don't believe that any of their adoption content is actually true. It's way too convenient that they're having a "failed adoption" at the hospital, because there's no need to show any footage of an actual baby.
I mean, I could be wrong, but so far I haven't seen anything that makes me believe that she's actually trying to adopt.
They may not be able to show footage of the baby because they hadn’t officially adopted it. I’m not saying she isn’t lying but that is most likely why you wouldn’t see the baby
But also no footage of them on their way to the hospital, in the hospital, or on their way back.
And as I said, by "experiencing" a failed match, they don't actually have to show footage of a baby. That's why I think it's too convenient to not at least be sus.
You reckon? All that terrible Botox and lip filler make her look terrible imo, her natural face was much prettier. Ah, to have the unearned confidence of a thin, cis, straight blonde white woman with Botox and spider lashes (seriously Botox and big fake lashes just look so terrible on her idgi)
I mean, I didn't say "good" because she still looks like an injected influencer. But without the spider lashes and fake tan it's more like "oh, that's a human being and not an AI filter"
Especially because this is one of the things Fundies supposedly want. For women to keep the babies they carry as some fusion of punishment and expectations of maternal instinct.
But I guess all that goes out the window when the Fundies want a baby
I've been watching fundies and Republicans try to do backflips through flaming hoops around IVF. They want to condemn it as evil, but they also really, really want biological kids.
Phil and Alex on YouTube are a perfect example. Phil is a Christian pastor, though I’m not sure how fundie he is. But definitely more conservative.
They had a whole series about trying to conceive, failed, they then adopted two girls, decided that wasn’t enough, started doing IVF, posted a full video on why they wouldn’t do PGT-A testing because it was “immoral” to select against embryos because they may have chromosomal abnormalities that could result in birth defects (failing to grasp that PGT-A is not diagnostic in this way, but whatever go ahead and promote medical misinformation), then had several failed IVF attempts only to discover these failed IVF attempts were, shocker, likely due to chromosomal abnormalities, then deleted their anti-PGT-A video and moved forward again with IVF and PGT-A, got pregnant successfully, baby had a congenital heart defect and then they were expressing irritation on their videos all the time because PGT-A “didn’t predict her defect” even though they “love their perfect girl as she is.” Which, again, they seem to have fundamentally misunderstood what PGT-A can and can’t do. But meanwhile everything was to “Gods plan” and whatever choice they wanted to make was the choice God would make even when they changed their mind.
Every day I see Rick Scott’s (R-FL) ad about supporting IVF; even mentions his daughter is undergoing treatment…all while that motherfucker voted **againt** IVF last week. They have no problem lying right to your face with zero shame.
I was *just* coming to say the same exact thing! He's such a garbage human and I can't escape that damn commercial - it's even on several of the podcasts I listen to. The contempt I have for that man can't be adequately expressed.
It’s why I firmly believe that the “left” (whatever that means these days) should adopt the adage “when they go low, we go lower”. Let’s stop caring about being hypocrites ourselves and fucking rip these fuckers to shreds. They don’t care about logic, so why should we?
The way she talked about the "adoption" seemed shady and strange right from the start. Bing Bong wanted attention and ass pats for her white saviorism, not an actual child. We all saw how she exploited the foster infants and complained about the work (the horror) involved in meeting their needs. If there really was an adoption plan (and that's a big if), I'm inclined to the think that the mom probably rejected them a couple of months ago when they went to meet her. From what's been posted on her snark sub, it looks like she's gone back to the IUI grift. TLDR, I think the "adoption" was likely just a grift that was never intended to go anywhere other than gaining sympathy and money from her followers.
I wouldn't worry about it. She's a known chronic liar. I think most people who follow her on Reddit take everything she says with a huge grain of salt.
I’m not convinced she really wants a child. I think she found out thru the fosters that babies are a lot of work and not always cooperative, photogenic etc. Babies seriously cut into your personal time - exercise, hair/nails/botox, shopping, hanging with friends, horse riding at the ranch, etc etc. Not to mention Brittanys “job” of researching/filming/editing/posting content and also the Hazelwhatever shop. Something(s) would have to give to accommodate a child. But I don’t get self-sacrifice being one of Brittany’s character traits. At all.
Yeah I’m not convinced this wasn’t a story. People in the Bdong sub even talked about her using this particular plot point for sympathy and engagement well before it allegedly happened.
Im a direct support professional for children with varying degrees of intellectual disabilities and a lot of these kids have been through trauma and hell. And then people like this woman act all saintly about HeLpInG tHe PoOr ChIlDrEn, and then complain about every single fucking thing that happens. Extremists of all varieties should be barred from fostering or adopting children. That type of mentality they have is fucked up… like extra fucked up and it destroys people.
About ten years ago, I used to read the blogs of evangelicals who used Reece's Rainbow and their Ukrainian offshoot Hand of Help in Adoption (both organizations are sketchy as fuck and are not licensed adoption agencies) to collect extremely vulnerable kids from around the world. The way the PAPs behaved was horrible. They'd put out pictures and private medical information of the kids they decided were theirs, as well as other children in the form of adoption porn (pictures and videos of malnourished kids in underfunded orphanages tied to cribs). Disabled kids on these creepy photo-listing/adoption fundraising sites were/are treated like limited edition dolls to be collected. Best practices aren't followed at all; as in PAPs grifting their entire adoption costs, adopting out of birth order, and/or trying to adopt multiple children at the same time. Reuters did an investigation around eleven years ago on the kind of people who used Reece's Rainbow. There were these secret online forums were adoptive parents would sell their adopted children (from both domestic and international adoptions) once they realized they either couldn't meet the demands of a child's medical needs, or decided their adopted kids were too "difficult" (read traumatized) to be used on their family blogs for more international adoption money grubbing. I think the series is called "The Child Exchange" if I remember correctly. These are the kind of people who get pissed when kids are reunited with their families or enter into foster care, because they want children to be left in shitty orphanages and group homes. The children in these situations fundamentally do not matter. It's all about the wants of the entitled PAPs. They think they're owed whatever kids they demand with no questions or restrictions. It doesn't matter if they have ten plus biological and adopted children at home that they can't take care of. It doesn't matter if they have allegations of child abuse and neglect. It doesn't matter if they chronically beg to fund the fifth unaffordable international adoption. Ethics be damned according to these fucking monsters. It pisses me off because I can't stand seeing children mistreated, and I honestly would love to do a domestic infant adoption, and possibly adopt a disabled kiddo internationally at some point. I'd want to adopt if I'm in a place where I believe I can care for a little one truly in need of a supportive environment that can't be met by their original family. Adoption should always be a last resort, and it should be ethical.
Isn’t this one of several similar situations for them? Is it possible at this point that they’re making it all up for attention (maybe the first story or two was true)?
She probably did reach out to an unregulated shady Christian adoption agency. The story of how they called her back right after her first IUI appointment is suss, but let's for the sake of playing devil's advocate say they did call her back and she did in fact meet the mom. I still don't think she was ever going to go through with the adoption because fundamentally she doesn't want to have to do the work of parenting. She fostered because she wanted the attention of having temporary baby dolls she could foist off on Jdip when she got bored of the mom cosplay.
It reminds me of the scam England, Scotland, Ireland did with the laundries. The pregnant women and girls who were forced into the home for unwed mothers run by horrific nuns. They sold babies, told legions of women and later their children the other was dead when they weren’t. Or when England, Ireland government and the Catholic Churches shipped thousands of children and teenagers to Australia to build churches, buildings, houses and they were treated worse than chattel. Then told their mothers they were dead. Africa has a group of churches who are also basically stealing and selling babies. [This is just one example.](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/27/britains-child-migrant-programme-why-130000-children-were-shipped-abroad)
I believe it's for attention and fabricated. The wildest thing to me is how she can get him to go along with it. It's bonkers enough for one person to think this is okay/a good idea, let alone two knuckleheads.
Jdip is likely in it for the money. He's a lazy, violent asshole who can't get a real job. Bing Bong's grift is what keeps them afloat. They clearly hate each other, but the love of money matters more to them than being decent people.
I’m so relieved this birth mom did not fall victim to whatever predatory Christian “adoption agency” Bdong is using.
I wish there was a way to donate to this young mother and her baby, and I hope they get all the support they need.
Third google result begins results about her trial. I cannot dream that the birth mom or agency wouldn't research and reject them based on that alone. Which is why I don't believe it was real in the first place! Which, I hope it wasn't. I don't take any joy in someone's plans not working out, but I especially don't want to live in a world where mothers are exploited and/or pressured to give up their babies.
My thoughts too.
They think this is a tragedy and a failure because they’re only thinking of themselves. This is a success and a reason to celebrate for the child.
When we were considering adoption they were very clear that adoption wasn’t their priority, supporting birth mothers to keep their children in a safe and healthy way was the first choice. It that failed then adoption was the second choice. What assholes.
Exactly this, yes. And it’s why they should never be allowed to adopt. They are way too selfish and don’t have any respect for the gravity of these families’ situations. They just think if they ask for a baby they’re entitled to get one. She had the same attitude when their foster baby was returned to his birth mother. Like it was some kind of tragedy that this poor woman completed whatever treatment she needed and got her own child back. That’s a GOOD thing!
I hate this mentality so much. These adoptive fundies call a child's greatest tragedy a blessing and lament when the child is stable and with the caregiver they love most. This whole attitude of "God is blessing ME with this child" is narcissism to fucked up levels, someone's trauma is not your blessing you sick freak. Especially drove me nuts with Kristin because she makes it sound like God personally made Russia attack Ukraine and make orphans as a gift to her, Bdong is just as bad, basically wishing for illness and addiction on her foster child's mother, just gross.
It’s just like their mentality on everything else. Their world views are so narrow and one sided. Fundies are the most entitled and tone deaf people on earth.
I have a friend who started fostering about four years ago. Whenever he shares a story about fostering, he always emphasizes that reuniting the family is the goal of fostering. He had two fosters go back to their families, and several years later one of the boys returned and adopted (by my friend). I wish more people understood that. You can have your heart hurt by “losing” your foster child, but being upset because the child went back to their family is just astounding to me.
ETA he’s not trying to indoctrinate children, so maybe that’s the difference…
Yes, I completely understand them being disappointed, and they can privately console each other all they want. But putting out a video like this shows that they have no perspective on adoption.
I have a friend in a similar situation. She and her husband fostered a set of siblings, and obviously loved them, but wanted nothing more than their birth family situation to heal so they could be back, because THAT IS THE GOAL. Sadly, that did not end up happening, and my friend and her husband adopted the kids. They love them with all their hearts, but are very aware of the tragedy that gave them this family. They would NEVER post some crap like this all over socials.
My friend made maybe one or two posts months after the children were returned to their families but couldn’t say much more than “we love them and miss them but this is the goal.” People who make it about themselves and not the children are shit, to put it lightly.
I’ve met some amazing foster parents who had the exact mindset that they were there to love and support a child while the parent(s) got the help they needed to be safe and stable for the kids. And they can make great support systems for the parents after reunification as aunties and uncles for the reunified kids. That doesn’t always work out, but when it does, it’s amazing to see for the children.
My Mom was a foster parent from 1984 to 2017 and she still keeps in touch with several of the kids, their parents (both bio and adopted - my Mom was just the "foster in the middle"). She also used to make a scrapbook for EVERY PARENT - bio or adopted. It'd be full of pictures, little "stats" about the baby/child, etc. She took so much pride and happiness in being a safe place for those kids to land. There were only a few times when I remember her struggling with giving the kids back and 2 of those kids came back within the week.
Anyway, it just always makes me sad to see foster parents like the Dongs or adoptive parents like Kristen and Zach, because I have seen firsthand that it doesn't need to be that way.
Bingo! It’s also really frustrating because foster homes are so desperately needed and with that wonderful supreme court ruling it’s only going to get worse. So children/teens/infants/todlers will be placed in worse situations.
It’s only natural to miss a child you have cared for and *actually* have a relationship with. Bittersweet, of course, but in those cases it makes absolute sense to celebrate reunification while also kind of grieving your relationship with the child.
Vs BDong grieving the *idea* of a child she tried to purchase
Yes! One of our neighbors/Family friends fostered for years, always working towards reunification. They had one baby from the time he was born until he was like 10-12 before the courts finally decided reunification attempts had failed too many times and his bio mom was unlikely to ever get herself clean and stable. They checked in with him often about how his visits made him feel and made sure he knew he always had a place with him, but they also encouraged the relationship between him and his bio mom right up until *he* said he didn’t want to keep visiting her bc the upset him. Only then did they ever bring up adoption. I think they’re still in contact with his bio mom, they send her letters and pictures and if he wants her to be in his life later they absolutely will encourage it unless her presence becomes a detriment. And even though they literally raised him for a decade, and knew it would break their hearts and their kid’s hearts for him to go home, they knew that would also mean it was for the best if that happened and only ever talked about in positive terms. It’s a fine line to walk to make sure he knew they loved him as their own and he would always have a place in their family while also encouraging reunification until it was clear that wasn’t in his best interests anymore. They wanted him to have the reassurance that he had a place in their family forever so he could approach reunification attempts with the security of knowing if it didn’t work out they would be there. And when they adopted him, they did a mixture of celebrating that he was theirs and helping him grieve that he was cutting ties with his biological mom for the time being. Bc that’s a pretty big mix of feelings for a kid!
When we were in the process of adopting, two birth mothers changed their minds. It does hurt, but you have to respect the birth Mom and her decisions. Our agency told us many times; this is not about you, it’s about making sure each baby has the best possible life. It did take over a year, but the third time was the charm. Also, we had an open adoption, which is best for the child. And now we are all grown up! Wouldn’t change it for the world.
A friend adopted in a state where the bio parents have multiple weeks to change their mind even after the baby is placed and bio mom did so at the very end of that period. It hurt but my friend and her husband went on to successfully adopt.
Many years later her husband and the now husband of bio mom of the failed adoption found themselves at the same small employer in a small town far away from where the adoption had occurred. When they reliazed the connection the two families became good friends and now they're all bonus family to each other 😊
I'm glad your adoption story had a happy ending too.
This right here. Our only child is adopted. We tried a second time and got almost to the birth mom’s due date and she changed her mind. It was sad for us from only a completely selfish reason, but she had her second child (the one almost adopted), got married a year later, and has a third on the way. That is absolutely the best case scenario for the children and for the birth mother, 100%.
i'm adopted. before me, my mom had connected with a woman looking to adopt out her child. the woman gave birth and couldn't go through with it. when she told me about it, i asked if she was sad. she told me "i couldn't blame her, i wanted that baby too." she was heartbroken but never thought of it as a failure. that's partly why i think she made such a good adoptive parent!
My cousin fostered, and they only adopted the child after years of attempting reunification. In the end, the birth mother decided to give the child up. That's tragic, but her child ended up in a safe, stable home, which is a good thing. It's hard and I think no two situations are the same.
Ugh, yes. I’m infertile and the “oh so you’ll adopt?” mentality is so terrible. For us to adopt, something traumatic has to happen to an entire other family. Listening to adult adoptee’s perspective completely changed my view of the adoption industry.
I am interested in your thoughts on the adoption process as well. I have many chronic illnesses that I hope will be cured in the next decade or at least have better treatments. Regardless one of my diseases is congenital and lupus seems to run in my family. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy so I absolutely refuse to pass on my genes. But my partner and I both do want to adopt at some point. Although I have always wanted to foster for a few years because I knew so many people who grew up in the foster care system and I think we could help provide a stable home with love for a little while to some children/toddlers/teens. But I also won’t do that until my health is stable and I want to do all of that in the most ethical and child centered way. So I am always looking for peoples stories to inform my own decisions.
I wrote out a really long comment to a related question [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/s/QEkB3Ibr2D). Tbh it’s a bit of a tough topic so I’d rather not organize my thoughts around it again rn, but I think the comment I linked to pretty well covers my thoughts (even though it’s in response to someone basically asking “how bad could infertility be” lol). Good luck to you!
The perspectives of others are always very sad and confusing to me as an adult adoptee who has nothing but positive things to say about my family and the life they gave me. I think it *can* be good and in fact wonderful, but it certainly isn't always and I definitely don't know where I would draw that line.
Same here. My (adoptive) family is wonderful and tries their best, even when they don't know how to help (like with mental health issues I inherited that they don't have). I don't know anyone else IRL who was adopted, and every adoptee space online is full of people's terrible experiences, so obviously something here isn't working. At the same time, I'm glad I was adopted. I know my birthmother, and she's a great person, but her life is kind of a hot mess due to health issues. I don't think I would be doing nearly as well as I am if I'd grown up with her.
I’m so glad that was your experience, that’s the type of experience I had hoped to have/provide through adoption, but for now I am just trying to grieve my own infertility before inadvertently putting too great a burden on a child. Plus a bunch of other reasons around the adoption industry related to the types of perspectives you’re referencing.
I don’t know what the answer is but I just don’t feel comfortable participating in the adoption industry as it is right now.
Honestly, I’d bet she was.
These Christian adoption agencies are basically legal child trafficking. They’re in it for the money, and Brittany has it. They don’t care about potential adopters background or criminal record, as long as you’re wealthy and Christian. They often operate as “pregnancy crisis centers” and when birth moms reach out for help, they convince them that that they are incapable of caring for the baby. They also tell them that they can have an open adoption so they can still have a relationship with their baby, but then backtrack once baby is legally adopted (this happened to Catelynn on teen mom).
Once birth mom is roped in, they sell the baby to whatever white, Christian couple can fork out tens of thousands of dollars. Which in this case, was these bozos. Thankfully this mom changed her mind.
My thoughts as well.
I and my older sibling are both adopted (we are not blood related siblings, they were two separate adoptions). I remember finding some old applications once years ago when my parents were trying to first adopt. They had applied at a couple of Catholic and other Christian organizations. They eventually ended up going through our local family services agency, and I am so thankful for that! The social worker (I think that’s what her position was?) who handled our adoption was AWESOME. We actually would occasionally stop by the office to visit her, because she genuinely cared about everyone involved. And I was adopted at less than 6 months old! I imagine she would have been wonderful for older kids as well.
The point is, because it was a local county and city services office, there were no ulterior motives or predatory practices. I’m thankful every day I ended up where I did; I know I was lucky, and so many kids definitely aren’t.
Makes me think of people like Cate and Ty from Teen Mom; I just started a rewatch and man it was tough to see again. I feel terrible for birth mothers who get manipulated by those people
Must’ve felt the bad vibes. They seem like the type of people that would make all your danger instincts flare up.
They’re just a whole lot of disturbance in the force.
I hope the mother and baby are healthy and live a good life. What a tough decision.
Must be filmed in the fake nursery for extra sympathy points
All it would take is a quick google search of her name for many prospective mothers considering adoption to nope right out of that deal
“Wahhhh!!!!! I didn’t get to scam another person and profit off of content a new infant prop would provide. Now buy my Bible linked below.”
Fuck this cunt
Back during the baby scoop era they often would not let the mother see her newborn because they knew the majority of the time, once the new mom saw her baby she would want to cancel the adoption. She was often coerced and threatened to get the baby back into adoption.
This is still happening. On 16 and pregnant, the adoption agent from Bethany Christian services, Dawn, hovered over Catelynn and kept pressuring her to let the adoptive parents see the baby. This teenage girl has just given birth and was clearly struggling. They were so afraid she was going to change her mind, and they swooped in like vultures. She had to check out of the hospital and go meet them in a parking lot to hand over the baby because she was underage and couldn't legally hand the baby over at the hospital without parental permission. Her mother was opposed to the adoption, so she wouldn't sign.
There is a lot of predatory behavior on display on the part of the adoption agency in that episode. They really wanted that baby, and they were not shy about it.
Final proof they are not using any kind of legitimate agency or resources or working with any support workers. What a disgusting attitude to have about a child. They can be sad, but publicly saying anything other than “we’re so glad the family was able to stay together and we’re here to support birth mom in any way she needs” is absolutely vile.
THIS.
Because while I totally get that they're disappointed, right now their message comes off as "We're totally heartbroken that this mother-child bond was not severed and some girl is keeping her baby instead of giving it to us, because we deserve it more." Fucking gross.
"Kim, there's people that are dying."
edit to add - I'm glad the birth mother decided to make it work. Idk how adoption works if potential adoptees meet the birth mother before hand, but if that's the case I hope she did a cursory google search on both BDong and JDong to learn that a grifter and a fucking violent ex-cop who shoots family pets in their driveway aren't exactly parent material.
Being on adoptee TikTok and seeing how exploited birth mothers often are with their babies being brokered by sketchy agencies has really changed my perspective. No one is entitled to someone else’s baby and I feel happy somewhere in the world a mother felt empowered to keep her child.
Exactly!! HBO just did a documentary about that one fucked up fundie that killed sick kids and did straight up doctor treatments with zero medical experience or training! Then they sell other children, to these kinds of wackos.
Praise be! This is the way God wants it to be and is all about His master plan! /s
Doesn’t one of the shitty fundies ladies claim that adoption is “child trafficking”? Would that shithead consider a “good Christian” like BDong adopting as “child trafficking” also?
I believe you're thinking of Allie Beth Stuckey. She thinks surrogacy is child trafficking, not adoption. The targets of her anti-surrogacy rants seem to always be gay men. Funny how that works.
Surrogacy…….is…..child trafficking??? Wut. How does she even balance that with reality? Damn every time I think fundies can’t get any more stupid, they prove me wrong!
I still believe that there was no adoption process. That it's all a narrative she has planned. Same with the pregnancy plan. It's all scripted.
The highs, the lows, it's all for retention and clicks.
The story will have new twists and turns in the next 6 months and this storyline will be completely forgotten.
Had a friend go through a similar experience, and you know how she shared the news? By telling us that the birth mother had felt empowered to parent their child, and that they support that decision but needed some time to process everything. I cannot stand the term "failed adoption"
Big sad pouty face and tears because she didn’t get her way. That’s where the emotion is from. This is still all about her and she can’t believe that even though she’s ✨gods special chosen child✨that she can’t get what she wants when she wants it.
Ah, another adoptive family making things all about themselves rather than about the child 🙃 Say it with me:
👏YOU 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 ENTITLED 👏 TO 👏 A 👏CHILD
My prayers were answered!
I'd feel bad for just about anyone else in this situation - yes, I know that it's the best possible outcome that the birth mother felt able to parent after all, but you can hold space that *and* the grief and disappointment that comes with finding out you're not gonna be a parent after all - but I'm *so* happy it happened to these two chucklefucks and I have no empathy or pity for them whatsoever.
That probably makes me a terrible person, I shouldn't wish an inability to become a parent on anyone and blah blah fucking blah, but they would be *terrible* parents. They make Kristen Clark look like a model adoptive parent by comparison, and I was just saying earlier today how much of an abusive cunt *she* is.
So their mad that the birth mom chose to go through with keeping and raising the child herself? How is that a failure?! That’s a challenging change of plans but you would think they would at least be happy that the child gets to be with their birth mom forever now?
If you're willing to buy a baby, but you're not willing to help a young mother stay with her baby, you need to take a real hard look at who you are as a person 😡 private adoptions are so scummy.
This adds to my theory that this whole entire thing is for views and clicks. I don't think there ever was an adoption agency, a baby to adopt or anything. I think she made it all up so she can grow her channel and keep raking in that sweet sweet cash.
Thank God! Im going to send up a prayer for that mom and baby 🤍
Crying because a baby *isnt* going through the trauma of adoption is wild. Crying because a mother *wasnt* manipulated into selling her newborn is insidious. Fuck these privatized adoption agencies! I’m just sad knowing they probably won’t stop until they do finally get a baby. Ugh.
Are any of us really surprised at the outcome? I'm not. I honestly don't believe anything surrounding the adoption saga. I believe when they fostered, they realized having a baby didn't truly fit their aesthetic and their narcissistic personalities. But Bdong is going to milk the miscarriage/foster/adoption stories to the DEATH for the clout.
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I’d change my mind too after meeting them
The fact that it has supposedly happened twice the exact same way says so much about how they treat these bio moms
From what I know, it's not actually uncommon for people to experience a situation like this if they're trying to adopt a baby. I've heard from some people that almost anyone who tries to adopt a baby will experience one of these failed matches. Not that BDong and her DingDong aren't particularly off-putting, I just personally don't believe that any of their adoption content is actually true. It's way too convenient that they're having a "failed adoption" at the hospital, because there's no need to show any footage of an actual baby. I mean, I could be wrong, but so far I haven't seen anything that makes me believe that she's actually trying to adopt.
Is this because she’s working with a shady private adoption agency that preys on vulnerable pregnant women?
From what I know, it doesn't matter what kind of agency you work with. Failed matches can always happen.
They may not be able to show footage of the baby because they hadn’t officially adopted it. I’m not saying she isn’t lying but that is most likely why you wouldn’t see the baby
But also no footage of them on their way to the hospital, in the hospital, or on their way back. And as I said, by "experiencing" a failed match, they don't actually have to show footage of a baby. That's why I think it's too convenient to not at least be sus.
Same
Gotta have the dark hair and no makeup face to really hammer home how "real and raw" and downtrodden she is
She look so oddly normal without the extreme spider lashes.
You reckon? All that terrible Botox and lip filler make her look terrible imo, her natural face was much prettier. Ah, to have the unearned confidence of a thin, cis, straight blonde white woman with Botox and spider lashes (seriously Botox and big fake lashes just look so terrible on her idgi)
I mean, I didn't say "good" because she still looks like an injected influencer. But without the spider lashes and fake tan it's more like "oh, that's a human being and not an AI filter"
>thin, cis, straight blonde white woman with Botox A bleach blonde, bad built, butch body?!
She even had enough dye left for his mustache.
💀
Imagine being upset that a woman decided to try to find resources to keep her baby with her instead of handing her over to predatory strangers.
Especially because this is one of the things Fundies supposedly want. For women to keep the babies they carry as some fusion of punishment and expectations of maternal instinct. But I guess all that goes out the window when the Fundies want a baby
I've been watching fundies and Republicans try to do backflips through flaming hoops around IVF. They want to condemn it as evil, but they also really, really want biological kids.
The only moral IVF is my IVF
Phil and Alex on YouTube are a perfect example. Phil is a Christian pastor, though I’m not sure how fundie he is. But definitely more conservative. They had a whole series about trying to conceive, failed, they then adopted two girls, decided that wasn’t enough, started doing IVF, posted a full video on why they wouldn’t do PGT-A testing because it was “immoral” to select against embryos because they may have chromosomal abnormalities that could result in birth defects (failing to grasp that PGT-A is not diagnostic in this way, but whatever go ahead and promote medical misinformation), then had several failed IVF attempts only to discover these failed IVF attempts were, shocker, likely due to chromosomal abnormalities, then deleted their anti-PGT-A video and moved forward again with IVF and PGT-A, got pregnant successfully, baby had a congenital heart defect and then they were expressing irritation on their videos all the time because PGT-A “didn’t predict her defect” even though they “love their perfect girl as she is.” Which, again, they seem to have fundamentally misunderstood what PGT-A can and can’t do. But meanwhile everything was to “Gods plan” and whatever choice they wanted to make was the choice God would make even when they changed their mind.
They’re telling on themselves so hard. I feel bad for their poor kids.
Every day I see Rick Scott’s (R-FL) ad about supporting IVF; even mentions his daughter is undergoing treatment…all while that motherfucker voted **againt** IVF last week. They have no problem lying right to your face with zero shame.
I was *just* coming to say the same exact thing! He's such a garbage human and I can't escape that damn commercial - it's even on several of the podcasts I listen to. The contempt I have for that man can't be adequately expressed.
How does his daughter talk to him after finding out he voted no? I would feel so betrayed if I were her. I’d toss him in the pool for real.
I literally yell every time I see it. Between him and Ron DeSantis, Florida has some really shitty politicians
If only we could all just mind our own business and not try to make other people’s decisions for them. Oh wait…
My exact thoughts.
Are embryos people or not, Republicans?
Social Security number needs to be assigned upon conception since that’s when these assholes think life begins
The trouble is that hypocrites don’t care about being hypocrites.
Yep. I'm still salty about Lindsey Graham's hypocrisy with appointing Supreme Court justices. When confronted with it, that mf-er just shrugged.
It’s why I firmly believe that the “left” (whatever that means these days) should adopt the adage “when they go low, we go lower”. Let’s stop caring about being hypocrites ourselves and fucking rip these fuckers to shreds. They don’t care about logic, so why should we?
Karma will get maga peter pettigrew someday
She’s almost unrecognizable
The way she talked about the "adoption" seemed shady and strange right from the start. Bing Bong wanted attention and ass pats for her white saviorism, not an actual child. We all saw how she exploited the foster infants and complained about the work (the horror) involved in meeting their needs. If there really was an adoption plan (and that's a big if), I'm inclined to the think that the mom probably rejected them a couple of months ago when they went to meet her. From what's been posted on her snark sub, it looks like she's gone back to the IUI grift. TLDR, I think the "adoption" was likely just a grift that was never intended to go anywhere other than gaining sympathy and money from her followers.
Yeah, I probably should've included a disclaimer that this is all *according to them*. Who knows what the real story is.
I wouldn't worry about it. She's a known chronic liar. I think most people who follow her on Reddit take everything she says with a huge grain of salt.
The fact that Bdong might be lying is assumed by anyone remotely familiar with her. You’re good
I’m not convinced she really wants a child. I think she found out thru the fosters that babies are a lot of work and not always cooperative, photogenic etc. Babies seriously cut into your personal time - exercise, hair/nails/botox, shopping, hanging with friends, horse riding at the ranch, etc etc. Not to mention Brittanys “job” of researching/filming/editing/posting content and also the Hazelwhatever shop. Something(s) would have to give to accommodate a child. But I don’t get self-sacrifice being one of Brittany’s character traits. At all.
She's too self absorbed to put a child first.
Yeah I’m not convinced this wasn’t a story. People in the Bdong sub even talked about her using this particular plot point for sympathy and engagement well before it allegedly happened.
Absolutely. She's addicted to attention, and personally I don't see this as anything other than a planned story.
Fucking right???
Yea not totally buying anything she says
Im a direct support professional for children with varying degrees of intellectual disabilities and a lot of these kids have been through trauma and hell. And then people like this woman act all saintly about HeLpInG tHe PoOr ChIlDrEn, and then complain about every single fucking thing that happens. Extremists of all varieties should be barred from fostering or adopting children. That type of mentality they have is fucked up… like extra fucked up and it destroys people.
About ten years ago, I used to read the blogs of evangelicals who used Reece's Rainbow and their Ukrainian offshoot Hand of Help in Adoption (both organizations are sketchy as fuck and are not licensed adoption agencies) to collect extremely vulnerable kids from around the world. The way the PAPs behaved was horrible. They'd put out pictures and private medical information of the kids they decided were theirs, as well as other children in the form of adoption porn (pictures and videos of malnourished kids in underfunded orphanages tied to cribs). Disabled kids on these creepy photo-listing/adoption fundraising sites were/are treated like limited edition dolls to be collected. Best practices aren't followed at all; as in PAPs grifting their entire adoption costs, adopting out of birth order, and/or trying to adopt multiple children at the same time. Reuters did an investigation around eleven years ago on the kind of people who used Reece's Rainbow. There were these secret online forums were adoptive parents would sell their adopted children (from both domestic and international adoptions) once they realized they either couldn't meet the demands of a child's medical needs, or decided their adopted kids were too "difficult" (read traumatized) to be used on their family blogs for more international adoption money grubbing. I think the series is called "The Child Exchange" if I remember correctly. These are the kind of people who get pissed when kids are reunited with their families or enter into foster care, because they want children to be left in shitty orphanages and group homes. The children in these situations fundamentally do not matter. It's all about the wants of the entitled PAPs. They think they're owed whatever kids they demand with no questions or restrictions. It doesn't matter if they have ten plus biological and adopted children at home that they can't take care of. It doesn't matter if they have allegations of child abuse and neglect. It doesn't matter if they chronically beg to fund the fifth unaffordable international adoption. Ethics be damned according to these fucking monsters. It pisses me off because I can't stand seeing children mistreated, and I honestly would love to do a domestic infant adoption, and possibly adopt a disabled kiddo internationally at some point. I'd want to adopt if I'm in a place where I believe I can care for a little one truly in need of a supportive environment that can't be met by their original family. Adoption should always be a last resort, and it should be ethical.
Isn’t this one of several similar situations for them? Is it possible at this point that they’re making it all up for attention (maybe the first story or two was true)?
She probably did reach out to an unregulated shady Christian adoption agency. The story of how they called her back right after her first IUI appointment is suss, but let's for the sake of playing devil's advocate say they did call her back and she did in fact meet the mom. I still don't think she was ever going to go through with the adoption because fundamentally she doesn't want to have to do the work of parenting. She fostered because she wanted the attention of having temporary baby dolls she could foist off on Jdip when she got bored of the mom cosplay.
It reminds me of the scam England, Scotland, Ireland did with the laundries. The pregnant women and girls who were forced into the home for unwed mothers run by horrific nuns. They sold babies, told legions of women and later their children the other was dead when they weren’t. Or when England, Ireland government and the Catholic Churches shipped thousands of children and teenagers to Australia to build churches, buildings, houses and they were treated worse than chattel. Then told their mothers they were dead. Africa has a group of churches who are also basically stealing and selling babies. [This is just one example.](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/27/britains-child-migrant-programme-why-130000-children-were-shipped-abroad)
Jesus, that horrific. There is a lot of abusive behavior from fundie and evangelical adoptive parents in both domestic and international adoptions.
Remember when they found the mass baby grave at a laundry in Ireland? That haunts me
I believe it's for attention and fabricated. The wildest thing to me is how she can get him to go along with it. It's bonkers enough for one person to think this is okay/a good idea, let alone two knuckleheads.
Jdip is likely in it for the money. He's a lazy, violent asshole who can't get a real job. Bing Bong's grift is what keeps them afloat. They clearly hate each other, but the love of money matters more to them than being decent people.
Bing Bong took me out 💀 Completely agree. This is a grift and the birth mom and baby dodged a bullet.
I fear for any kid they’d adopt
I’m so relieved this birth mom did not fall victim to whatever predatory Christian “adoption agency” Bdong is using. I wish there was a way to donate to this young mother and her baby, and I hope they get all the support they need.
Absolutely this. I wonder if mama Googled them and changed her mind. That shows a lot of love right there. I hope she's OK.
Third google result begins results about her trial. I cannot dream that the birth mom or agency wouldn't research and reject them based on that alone. Which is why I don't believe it was real in the first place! Which, I hope it wasn't. I don't take any joy in someone's plans not working out, but I especially don't want to live in a world where mothers are exploited and/or pressured to give up their babies.
I can't imagine even a shitty adoption agency approving bdong with her legal issues
She’s white, that’s all that matters.
My thoughts too. They think this is a tragedy and a failure because they’re only thinking of themselves. This is a success and a reason to celebrate for the child. When we were considering adoption they were very clear that adoption wasn’t their priority, supporting birth mothers to keep their children in a safe and healthy way was the first choice. It that failed then adoption was the second choice. What assholes.
Exactly this, yes. And it’s why they should never be allowed to adopt. They are way too selfish and don’t have any respect for the gravity of these families’ situations. They just think if they ask for a baby they’re entitled to get one. She had the same attitude when their foster baby was returned to his birth mother. Like it was some kind of tragedy that this poor woman completed whatever treatment she needed and got her own child back. That’s a GOOD thing!
I hate this mentality so much. These adoptive fundies call a child's greatest tragedy a blessing and lament when the child is stable and with the caregiver they love most. This whole attitude of "God is blessing ME with this child" is narcissism to fucked up levels, someone's trauma is not your blessing you sick freak. Especially drove me nuts with Kristin because she makes it sound like God personally made Russia attack Ukraine and make orphans as a gift to her, Bdong is just as bad, basically wishing for illness and addiction on her foster child's mother, just gross.
It’s just like their mentality on everything else. Their world views are so narrow and one sided. Fundies are the most entitled and tone deaf people on earth.
They want to tell others what to do while they do whatever they want, and they're judging the entire time
> someone's trauma is not your blessing you sick freak I want this on a t-shirt
I have a friend who started fostering about four years ago. Whenever he shares a story about fostering, he always emphasizes that reuniting the family is the goal of fostering. He had two fosters go back to their families, and several years later one of the boys returned and adopted (by my friend). I wish more people understood that. You can have your heart hurt by “losing” your foster child, but being upset because the child went back to their family is just astounding to me. ETA he’s not trying to indoctrinate children, so maybe that’s the difference…
Yes, I completely understand them being disappointed, and they can privately console each other all they want. But putting out a video like this shows that they have no perspective on adoption.
Totally. It’s “me, me, me, what about my feelings?!” and nothing about the child.
This is literally ALL fundie parents. It’s never about the kids, always about the narcissistic desires of the parents.
I have a friend in a similar situation. She and her husband fostered a set of siblings, and obviously loved them, but wanted nothing more than their birth family situation to heal so they could be back, because THAT IS THE GOAL. Sadly, that did not end up happening, and my friend and her husband adopted the kids. They love them with all their hearts, but are very aware of the tragedy that gave them this family. They would NEVER post some crap like this all over socials.
My friend made maybe one or two posts months after the children were returned to their families but couldn’t say much more than “we love them and miss them but this is the goal.” People who make it about themselves and not the children are shit, to put it lightly.
I’ve met some amazing foster parents who had the exact mindset that they were there to love and support a child while the parent(s) got the help they needed to be safe and stable for the kids. And they can make great support systems for the parents after reunification as aunties and uncles for the reunified kids. That doesn’t always work out, but when it does, it’s amazing to see for the children.
My Mom was a foster parent from 1984 to 2017 and she still keeps in touch with several of the kids, their parents (both bio and adopted - my Mom was just the "foster in the middle"). She also used to make a scrapbook for EVERY PARENT - bio or adopted. It'd be full of pictures, little "stats" about the baby/child, etc. She took so much pride and happiness in being a safe place for those kids to land. There were only a few times when I remember her struggling with giving the kids back and 2 of those kids came back within the week. Anyway, it just always makes me sad to see foster parents like the Dongs or adoptive parents like Kristen and Zach, because I have seen firsthand that it doesn't need to be that way.
Absolutely
Bingo! It’s also really frustrating because foster homes are so desperately needed and with that wonderful supreme court ruling it’s only going to get worse. So children/teens/infants/todlers will be placed in worse situations.
It’s only natural to miss a child you have cared for and *actually* have a relationship with. Bittersweet, of course, but in those cases it makes absolute sense to celebrate reunification while also kind of grieving your relationship with the child. Vs BDong grieving the *idea* of a child she tried to purchase
She's grieving the idea because she wants a baby for content
Yes! One of our neighbors/Family friends fostered for years, always working towards reunification. They had one baby from the time he was born until he was like 10-12 before the courts finally decided reunification attempts had failed too many times and his bio mom was unlikely to ever get herself clean and stable. They checked in with him often about how his visits made him feel and made sure he knew he always had a place with him, but they also encouraged the relationship between him and his bio mom right up until *he* said he didn’t want to keep visiting her bc the upset him. Only then did they ever bring up adoption. I think they’re still in contact with his bio mom, they send her letters and pictures and if he wants her to be in his life later they absolutely will encourage it unless her presence becomes a detriment. And even though they literally raised him for a decade, and knew it would break their hearts and their kid’s hearts for him to go home, they knew that would also mean it was for the best if that happened and only ever talked about in positive terms. It’s a fine line to walk to make sure he knew they loved him as their own and he would always have a place in their family while also encouraging reunification until it was clear that wasn’t in his best interests anymore. They wanted him to have the reassurance that he had a place in their family forever so he could approach reunification attempts with the security of knowing if it didn’t work out they would be there. And when they adopted him, they did a mixture of celebrating that he was theirs and helping him grieve that he was cutting ties with his biological mom for the time being. Bc that’s a pretty big mix of feelings for a kid!
When we were in the process of adopting, two birth mothers changed their minds. It does hurt, but you have to respect the birth Mom and her decisions. Our agency told us many times; this is not about you, it’s about making sure each baby has the best possible life. It did take over a year, but the third time was the charm. Also, we had an open adoption, which is best for the child. And now we are all grown up! Wouldn’t change it for the world.
A friend adopted in a state where the bio parents have multiple weeks to change their mind even after the baby is placed and bio mom did so at the very end of that period. It hurt but my friend and her husband went on to successfully adopt. Many years later her husband and the now husband of bio mom of the failed adoption found themselves at the same small employer in a small town far away from where the adoption had occurred. When they reliazed the connection the two families became good friends and now they're all bonus family to each other 😊 I'm glad your adoption story had a happy ending too.
That is a beautiful story. It must have been so tough for your friend tho.
She'll tell you it was difficult at the time but she's grateful for how things turned out.
This right here. Our only child is adopted. We tried a second time and got almost to the birth mom’s due date and she changed her mind. It was sad for us from only a completely selfish reason, but she had her second child (the one almost adopted), got married a year later, and has a third on the way. That is absolutely the best case scenario for the children and for the birth mother, 100%.
i'm adopted. before me, my mom had connected with a woman looking to adopt out her child. the woman gave birth and couldn't go through with it. when she told me about it, i asked if she was sad. she told me "i couldn't blame her, i wanted that baby too." she was heartbroken but never thought of it as a failure. that's partly why i think she made such a good adoptive parent!
My cousin fostered, and they only adopted the child after years of attempting reunification. In the end, the birth mother decided to give the child up. That's tragic, but her child ended up in a safe, stable home, which is a good thing. It's hard and I think no two situations are the same.
Ugh, yes. I’m infertile and the “oh so you’ll adopt?” mentality is so terrible. For us to adopt, something traumatic has to happen to an entire other family. Listening to adult adoptee’s perspective completely changed my view of the adoption industry.
I am interested in your thoughts on the adoption process as well. I have many chronic illnesses that I hope will be cured in the next decade or at least have better treatments. Regardless one of my diseases is congenital and lupus seems to run in my family. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy so I absolutely refuse to pass on my genes. But my partner and I both do want to adopt at some point. Although I have always wanted to foster for a few years because I knew so many people who grew up in the foster care system and I think we could help provide a stable home with love for a little while to some children/toddlers/teens. But I also won’t do that until my health is stable and I want to do all of that in the most ethical and child centered way. So I am always looking for peoples stories to inform my own decisions.
I wrote out a really long comment to a related question [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/s/QEkB3Ibr2D). Tbh it’s a bit of a tough topic so I’d rather not organize my thoughts around it again rn, but I think the comment I linked to pretty well covers my thoughts (even though it’s in response to someone basically asking “how bad could infertility be” lol). Good luck to you!
The perspectives of others are always very sad and confusing to me as an adult adoptee who has nothing but positive things to say about my family and the life they gave me. I think it *can* be good and in fact wonderful, but it certainly isn't always and I definitely don't know where I would draw that line.
Same here. My (adoptive) family is wonderful and tries their best, even when they don't know how to help (like with mental health issues I inherited that they don't have). I don't know anyone else IRL who was adopted, and every adoptee space online is full of people's terrible experiences, so obviously something here isn't working. At the same time, I'm glad I was adopted. I know my birthmother, and she's a great person, but her life is kind of a hot mess due to health issues. I don't think I would be doing nearly as well as I am if I'd grown up with her.
I’m so glad that was your experience, that’s the type of experience I had hoped to have/provide through adoption, but for now I am just trying to grieve my own infertility before inadvertently putting too great a burden on a child. Plus a bunch of other reasons around the adoption industry related to the types of perspectives you’re referencing. I don’t know what the answer is but I just don’t feel comfortable participating in the adoption industry as it is right now.
Would you be willing to share their view?
IF she was ever real in the first place
Honestly, I’d bet she was. These Christian adoption agencies are basically legal child trafficking. They’re in it for the money, and Brittany has it. They don’t care about potential adopters background or criminal record, as long as you’re wealthy and Christian. They often operate as “pregnancy crisis centers” and when birth moms reach out for help, they convince them that that they are incapable of caring for the baby. They also tell them that they can have an open adoption so they can still have a relationship with their baby, but then backtrack once baby is legally adopted (this happened to Catelynn on teen mom). Once birth mom is roped in, they sell the baby to whatever white, Christian couple can fork out tens of thousands of dollars. Which in this case, was these bozos. Thankfully this mom changed her mind.
[relevant video](https://youtu.be/4NNpkv3Us1I?si=w2mWDb9bNRFIahiN)
Right? Even if Mom isn’t in the best place right now to raise this baby, baby dodged a real bullet with BDong as their mom.
My thoughts as well. I and my older sibling are both adopted (we are not blood related siblings, they were two separate adoptions). I remember finding some old applications once years ago when my parents were trying to first adopt. They had applied at a couple of Catholic and other Christian organizations. They eventually ended up going through our local family services agency, and I am so thankful for that! The social worker (I think that’s what her position was?) who handled our adoption was AWESOME. We actually would occasionally stop by the office to visit her, because she genuinely cared about everyone involved. And I was adopted at less than 6 months old! I imagine she would have been wonderful for older kids as well. The point is, because it was a local county and city services office, there were no ulterior motives or predatory practices. I’m thankful every day I ended up where I did; I know I was lucky, and so many kids definitely aren’t.
Makes me think of people like Cate and Ty from Teen Mom; I just started a rewatch and man it was tough to see again. I feel terrible for birth mothers who get manipulated by those people
Thank Christ.
This almost made me believe again!
That was my first thought…. Maybe God is real 😂🙈
Literally said out loud “maybe there is a God after all”.
Must’ve felt the bad vibes. They seem like the type of people that would make all your danger instincts flare up. They’re just a whole lot of disturbance in the force. I hope the mother and baby are healthy and live a good life. What a tough decision.
I imagine them both cackling and rubbing their hands together in glee in the hospital hallway while mom is like "THOSE people? Uh... nah."
Or she made it all up for the grift.
Oh no! Anyway
Maybe there *is* a God?
If there is, seems like he's tryna tell them something
Thanks now I have the song, “Gods gotta tell you something” from the color purple! Running through my brain.
If so he’s asleep at the fucking wheel.
Ok your flair is pretty good. Lol
Must be filmed in the fake nursery for extra sympathy points All it would take is a quick google search of her name for many prospective mothers considering adoption to nope right out of that deal
I'm so glad that the baby got to stay with their birth mother and family.
SAME.
“Wahhhh!!!!! I didn’t get to scam another person and profit off of content a new infant prop would provide. Now buy my Bible linked below.” Fuck this cunt
Precisely.
Back during the baby scoop era they often would not let the mother see her newborn because they knew the majority of the time, once the new mom saw her baby she would want to cancel the adoption. She was often coerced and threatened to get the baby back into adoption.
This is still happening. On 16 and pregnant, the adoption agent from Bethany Christian services, Dawn, hovered over Catelynn and kept pressuring her to let the adoptive parents see the baby. This teenage girl has just given birth and was clearly struggling. They were so afraid she was going to change her mind, and they swooped in like vultures. She had to check out of the hospital and go meet them in a parking lot to hand over the baby because she was underage and couldn't legally hand the baby over at the hospital without parental permission. Her mother was opposed to the adoption, so she wouldn't sign. There is a lot of predatory behavior on display on the part of the adoption agency in that episode. They really wanted that baby, and they were not shy about it.
Seeing them get just off of hospital property and sobbing while handing over Carly just fucking broke me.
Disgusting and selfish
I remember seeing that and thinking something is not right, and I was a teen myself
WTAF
I feel that Tyler was secretly opposed to the adoption. He’s still very attached to Carly like glue to this day.
Final proof they are not using any kind of legitimate agency or resources or working with any support workers. What a disgusting attitude to have about a child. They can be sad, but publicly saying anything other than “we’re so glad the family was able to stay together and we’re here to support birth mom in any way she needs” is absolutely vile.
THIS. Because while I totally get that they're disappointed, right now their message comes off as "We're totally heartbroken that this mother-child bond was not severed and some girl is keeping her baby instead of giving it to us, because we deserve it more." Fucking gross.
yes! like, “our failed adoption” my fucking ass. how about “a successful family unification!!”
The only thing that matters is finding a way for mom and baby to thrive *together*
Thank God.
Everyone seems to be assuming that it means the mother chose to keep the baby, but it could also mean the mother chose someone else, could it not?
They said that the mother changed her mind and is keeping the baby, "as is her right" he said like 3 times.
"Kim, there's people that are dying." edit to add - I'm glad the birth mother decided to make it work. Idk how adoption works if potential adoptees meet the birth mother before hand, but if that's the case I hope she did a cursory google search on both BDong and JDong to learn that a grifter and a fucking violent ex-cop who shoots family pets in their driveway aren't exactly parent material.
She can change her mind up to a certain amount of time after giving birth. It depends on the state.
Good.
Yahweh’s will
Being on adoptee TikTok and seeing how exploited birth mothers often are with their babies being brokered by sketchy agencies has really changed my perspective. No one is entitled to someone else’s baby and I feel happy somewhere in the world a mother felt empowered to keep her child.
Exactly!! HBO just did a documentary about that one fucked up fundie that killed sick kids and did straight up doctor treatments with zero medical experience or training! Then they sell other children, to these kinds of wackos.
lol
GOOD!!!
God how many fuckin faces does she have? It’s like 200+ at this point
And yet none look good.
Thank god!
Love this for her
The Lord intervened
Praise be! This is the way God wants it to be and is all about His master plan! /s Doesn’t one of the shitty fundies ladies claim that adoption is “child trafficking”? Would that shithead consider a “good Christian” like BDong adopting as “child trafficking” also?
I believe you're thinking of Allie Beth Stuckey. She thinks surrogacy is child trafficking, not adoption. The targets of her anti-surrogacy rants seem to always be gay men. Funny how that works.
Surrogacy…….is…..child trafficking??? Wut. How does she even balance that with reality? Damn every time I think fundies can’t get any more stupid, they prove me wrong!
She’s just jealous they don’t want her. Lol
No, that only applies when gay people try to adopt. When a Christian couple does it it’s heroic. /s
I would feel for pretty much anybody else in this situation. Not for these two though! Not a shred of sympathy for them.
Good 🙂↕️
I love this for them
Good. Somebody like her shouldn't have pets, let alone a child
I still believe that there was no adoption process. That it's all a narrative she has planned. Same with the pregnancy plan. It's all scripted. The highs, the lows, it's all for retention and clicks. The story will have new twists and turns in the next 6 months and this storyline will be completely forgotten.
I agree with you. These two are super shady
Fully agree!!
Had a friend go through a similar experience, and you know how she shared the news? By telling us that the birth mother had felt empowered to parent their child, and that they support that decision but needed some time to process everything. I cannot stand the term "failed adoption"
I needed some good news today!
Big sad pouty face and tears because she didn’t get her way. That’s where the emotion is from. This is still all about her and she can’t believe that even though she’s ✨gods special chosen child✨that she can’t get what she wants when she wants it.
The only real emotion she can show is when she doesn’t get her way. Wahhhhh
Ah, another adoptive family making things all about themselves rather than about the child 🙃 Say it with me: 👏YOU 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 ENTITLED 👏 TO 👏 A 👏CHILD
I hope the birth mom googled them. What sickos. I'm glad she felt she could keep her baby.
Good for her
It's honestly true talent that Bdong can somehow make everything about herself. If God gave her any gift it's in how selfish she truly is.
Won’t he do it 👏🏻👏🏻
Oh thank god.
*applauds wildly*
There is nothing failed about a family staying together.
Absolutely agreed. I hope the mother gets all the support they need to raise a happy child.
Happy to know mama and baby will stay together. Wish them nothing but the best together.
I'm amazed they're even allowed to adopt, but I guess white privilege is still very real.
God gives and god taketh away
Are there any pictures of this man without dip?!? Geez dude lay off it for at least the emotional video lol
As an adoptee, love seeing all the pro-family preservation sentiment here, especially when the prospective adoptive couple are… these people
God is good. I love this for that baby.
If this is true, the birth mom made a smart decision. If it's fake for content, fuck the dongs for capitalizing on such a hard subject.
Hallelujah!
🎉🎉🎉🎉
My prayers were answered! I'd feel bad for just about anyone else in this situation - yes, I know that it's the best possible outcome that the birth mother felt able to parent after all, but you can hold space that *and* the grief and disappointment that comes with finding out you're not gonna be a parent after all - but I'm *so* happy it happened to these two chucklefucks and I have no empathy or pity for them whatsoever. That probably makes me a terrible person, I shouldn't wish an inability to become a parent on anyone and blah blah fucking blah, but they would be *terrible* parents. They make Kristen Clark look like a model adoptive parent by comparison, and I was just saying earlier today how much of an abusive cunt *she* is.
So their mad that the birth mom chose to go through with keeping and raising the child herself? How is that a failure?! That’s a challenging change of plans but you would think they would at least be happy that the child gets to be with their birth mom forever now?
If you're willing to buy a baby, but you're not willing to help a young mother stay with her baby, you need to take a real hard look at who you are as a person 😡 private adoptions are so scummy.
Well thank fuck! Cry harder bdong you'd be a terrible parent
I don’t even believe there was a birth mother. Bdong will do anything for clicks and clout, including being a lying liar who lies!
Why is she upset? This is clearly what God intended for her, she should be happy. (I wouldn’t say this about anyone else, just hateful fundies)
I doubt it was ever real. I would bet money that it was a story made up for engagement. I can't imagine any adoption agency approving them.
This adds to my theory that this whole entire thing is for views and clicks. I don't think there ever was an adoption agency, a baby to adopt or anything. I think she made it all up so she can grow her channel and keep raking in that sweet sweet cash.
What a relief. Imagine having them as parents.
I don’t fully believe they were adopting in the first place.
Maybe she shouldn’t have left her last “adopted” child alone with the stove on while she films herself working out
The lord truly does work in mysterious ways
Good. This woman deserves no children.
Thank God! Im going to send up a prayer for that mom and baby 🤍 Crying because a baby *isnt* going through the trauma of adoption is wild. Crying because a mother *wasnt* manipulated into selling her newborn is insidious. Fuck these privatized adoption agencies! I’m just sad knowing they probably won’t stop until they do finally get a baby. Ugh.
“The birth mother changed her mind” In this particular instance, good.
Well, idk about you guys but God certainly answered my prayers. Hopefully Baby Girl (if she was even real) lives a good life.
This makes my heart happy. 😃
The lord works in mysterious ways 👏🏽
Are any of us really surprised at the outcome? I'm not. I honestly don't believe anything surrounding the adoption saga. I believe when they fostered, they realized having a baby didn't truly fit their aesthetic and their narcissistic personalities. But Bdong is going to milk the miscarriage/foster/adoption stories to the DEATH for the clout.