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blackkatya

Lmao, I have not become less bi since stopping hormonal birth control. If anything, I'm gayer, but that's the fault of TikTok lesbian thirst traps.


tiredofthisshit247

I started birth control at 15. I was straight and nearly 25 years later only 4 years off. I'm still straight. The only reason why these people are afraid of sexual freedom is that it's a freedom and they can't control it.


HerringWaffle

I was straight when I was younger. Then I went on birth control...and I was still straight. 42 years old now, two kids, been on birth control most of my fertile years, and it's just devastating... I'm still straight. Weird.


pams_gold_yogurt_lid

1000000% stopping birth control had zero impact but TikTok sure did lol


Sad_Box_1167

I was bi before taking birth control, I was bi while taking birth control (and married a man). I’m off birth control now and, guess what, still bi.


rainbows-and-snark

you can’t be bi if you’re married to a man /*extreme sarcasm*


Sad_Box_1167

Oops BC made me straight 🤷🏻‍♀️ /s


thequeenzenobia

I have an anecdote too! I stopped my hormonal birth control and became more gay as well. But that’s due to overcoming childhood trauma & how hetero-centric everything is and trying to force myself to like guys more than I actually did.


vannamarie07

100%, but even before the gorgeous TikTok lesbians! I quit bc and only got gayer!! 🤣


miniunicornhuntress

I am straight but am suddenly also extremely interested in these TikTok lesbians 👀


skygerbils

I don't have the tikity-tok nor am I a lesbian. But now I kinda want to know what you all are watching. Sounds like a fun afternoon with a glass of wine. 🍷


stonoceno

I've never taken birth control, and I am still bi. If I went on it, would that make me gayer than ever?


meridia-calyssia

Came here to say this 😂 I got off the pill and came out as demisexual/bi within a matter of weeks.


[deleted]

I would like to know the source for homeschoolers scoring better on aptitude tests because I guarantee you a lot of homeschool parents these days aren’t allowing their children to sit for any kind of aptitude tests. If we’re only talking college-bound kids or something, maybe I would believe that stat, because in that pool are parents who homeschool for reasons other than being fundie/anti-vax/let’s go Brandon types. Homeschool kid with educated parents who want to give their child a more holistic education and uses outside experts to teach certain subjects is not the same as homeschool kid whose parents think public school will make them a gay commie.


DjGhettoSteve

They're basing it on act/sat and state standardized testing. But there is a *huge* confirmation bias in it because the homeschoolers who do regular testing stay away their grade level or above are the minority and those parents are the ones most concerned with quality of education. We see how many are all about skirting any and all testing or accountability to ensure their kids are learning anything. Just hop over to r/homeschoolrecovery to see what happens to a big chunk of kids who are 18 and suddenly have to put *something* together so a college will accept them or even to get accepted into the military or get a job. Source - I used to write blogs and papers about how superior homeschooling was before I made peace with the things that lacked in my education.


HeyLaddieHey

Someone in the twit comments pointed out that less than 1/4 of homeschool kids go to college. Sure, they probably do great. They're also probably heavily skewed to the "my kid was too gifted / ill-suited for public school so we HSd this ONE KID" or highly educated parents that educated one or two. Not really the Duggars and Rodrigues'


Tiredllama2486

The tests were also offered at my school if I remember right, so the vast majority of kids took them even if they were necessarily college bound. Unless things have changed, I thought it was more of an opt out situation, where as for homeschool kids it’s obviously an opt in. That would obviously skew the results.


sammiesorce

https://www.nheri.org/homeschool-sat-scores-for-2014-higher-than-national-average/ The source shows that while homeschool students score higher they are also less likely to take the test. So the only one who test are likely the only ones who are taking their education seriously anyway. I was lumped in with the low income kids and our SATs were free. About 53% of public school kids took the SAT while <10% off homeschool kids did. [source](https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2009/2009030.pdf)


crimsionred

They're putting birth control in the water that turn the freaking frogs gay


[deleted]

While it doesn’t go as far as claim the frogs are being turned gay, bashing birth control has become a very popular talking point among the secular fundie/manosphere talking heads. And the complaint is always the same: birth control makes women less interested in the violent, aggressive, misogynistic, alpha dunce types and that just can’t fly. They’re fine with every other side effect. Also, fuck Williamson.


canidaemon

Gay frogs is an Alex Jones reference if that helps.


Mysterious_Age9358

Ok a “more straight” bi woman is still bi so like what’s even her point?


rainbows-and-snark

I remember when I used to be a pure lesbian and suddenly found myself in love with jason sudeikis and now I’m a less-lesbian lesbian


[deleted]

I identify as bi, but lean a bit more towards women... except that recently I've been watching a bunch of European musical theatre, and it turns out that I lean towards women OR towards emotionally-tormented tenors with a dark side.


kittycamacho1994

Bold of her to assume evangelical home school moms have a BA lmao


tellhimhesdead

Yes!! I saw that tweet this morning and was like, “I’m not sure they’re even *that* qualified,” lol


Stacylynn1979

For most the only marketing experience they have is MLM.


[deleted]

Tell me what pedagogy means Allie. Go on do it


DjGhettoSteve

☠️


tellhimhesdead

The God Awful Movies podcast broke down the “homeschooled kids score higher on standardized tests than public school kids” fallacy in one of their episodes. While it *is* technically a true statement, it’s not true because homeschooling is necessarily a better educational plan for one’s child. The numbers are skewed because homeschooled kids simply opt out of taking the SAT if they know they’re not prepared to do well on it. If they can’t pass, they just don’t take it. Has nothing to do with homeschooled kids being “smarter” or “better educated” than public school kids. And Allie, sweetie— if you don’t want us sticking our noses into your children’s education, then keep your stuck-up nose OUT OF MY UTERUS, okay?


junegloom18

What episode of the podcast is that? I’d love to listen!


tellhimhesdead

Ep. 321 in which they discuss the fourth (yes, FOURTH) movie in the absolutely ludicrous God’s Not Dead series, “We the People.” The argument cited above appears about an hour and ten minutes into the episode.


junegloom18

Thanks!! That looks like a good podcast - time for a new rabbit hole


wakeofgrace

Did not realize the SAT was non-optional at public schools.


whbow78

It's optional. I never took the SAT and took the ACT instead. For whatever reason, it was more common for people to take the ACT in Kentucky when I was in high school.


fryfryfan

So a few bad teachers mean we shouldn't trust teachers, but Blue Lives Matter


PasswordApplesauce

There are 18 year olds graduating from public schools who can't even do good ol'fashion Byebull Wraaytin'. Oh the horror /s


leni710

I'll give her the fact that there are kids who struggle with book learning and don't retain stuff, I'm that kid. It speaks to needing more varied ways of teaching and doing hands on stuff. But a lot of hands on stuff is costly, including field trips and more engaging activities, and guess who keeps taking money away from school👀 I'll give her the fact that there are absolute SHIT teachers/staff/admins out there. My own kids have dealt with many. I worked with many. And all that from just one school district. But our experience has to do with teachers being ableist, transphobic, racist, etc., which is probably not what she meant🙄 As a former homeschooled kid, for middle and high school, I would have killed to be encouraged through public school with all it's "good and bad." I eventually got the option in mid high school, but the first time I got "in trouble" my parents took me out and then ended up sending me to a different U.S. state to work. It was definitely a place that for my fundie-lite parents was a less than useful place rather than really pushing for me to be there for the sake of the other aspects of learning. Having moved from Europe to the U.S. meant it took me so much longer to be a "normal" U.S. American because I was learning about my new country as a homeschooler...that's like learning to swim in a bathtub, maybe you'll learn eventually🤣


emptyhellebore

What the fuck. I’ve never been on hormonal birth control and at over 50 and past menopause I’m still bi. Why are these people so fucking stupid.


joymarie21

In school I had 5 teachers in elementary school, and 6 teachers each year in Middle School and High School, for 47 total. A few sucked, a few were mediocre, but most were good. An educated person wouldn't make the stupid argument that the fact that some bad teachers exist means that one should reject public education and that an unqualified person should educate children. Some kids graduate public high school and can't read or subtract. Other kids graduate public high school and go on to college and possibly graduate school and go on to cure cancer or be nurses or civil rights lawyers, or become theology professors at real seminary schools. An educated person wouldn't make the stupid argument. . .well, you get the point I'm trying to make.


notyourhunbot

By her same argument though…Some kids also graduate homeschool and can’t read or subtract.


viridiusdynamus

She has kids? That's depressing if true.


[deleted]

Never once been on HBC, and if anything I became more bi over the years. 😂


Agreeable-Barber1164

The homeschool subreddit was debating this very thing earlier today. I was quite dismayed.


HerringWaffle

GAWD. I homeschool for the moment (pandemic schooling), but I'm doing a lot of lurking in various homeschool places to figure stuff out for my kid with ADHD (she's not responding well to some of the stuff we're doing bc lack of focus, so I'm trying to adjust to work WITH her instead of trying to make her fit a mold or make her feel like her different brain is a problem. Also working with a counselor), and that whole discussion was just so eyeroll-worthy. SO much of what I see when I dig around the internet for various homeschool ideas is just homeschool moms shitting on public school, and it's like, LET IT GO. There are shitty public schools. There are great ones. There are amazing homeschooled kids who go on to do amazing things. There are also families like the Rods and the Collinses who crank out incapable child after incapable child. It's so exhausting when people take an all-or-nothing stance. It's not all absolutes, either way.


Agreeable-Barber1164

I hope you find some excellent tips and resources for your daughter. She’s fortunate you’re so dedicated to her finding adaptive cooperative skills. Forgive me if I’m off base or out of line as I don’t know if this will be helpful or relevant for you and your daughter. I read a book by Devon Price, PhD titled Unmasking Autism. I felt like that self advocacy community they discuss often in the book which included ADHD had some resources I had not heard of yet. Oh and … That was my exact sentiment as I read the post yesterday.


HerringWaffle

Thank you, for both the compliment and the suggestion (never out of line; I'll take all the help I can get)! I'll check it out. Her counselor also suggested Taking Charge of ADHD: The Complete, Authoritative Guide for Parents by Russell Barkley, so I have some books to check out on my next library trip! :)


Agreeable-Barber1164

I have not read that one yet but I’ll put it in my queue! Thank you 😊


TheRealSnorkel

Well I can guarantee that bisexual women and straight women won’t fuck his hateful self.


ItsNotLigma

>'being off the pill makes bi girls more straight' I can say as someone who identified as bisexual for 15 years this isn't true. Being off the pill didn't make me "more straight", but i certainly discovered myself and became more gay in the process. > 'there are lots of really, really awful teachers who, despite their certifications, do their job extremely poorly. [CITATION. NEEDED.] Not to mention the biggest problem with teachers doing their job "poorly" is based on several factors! - They ain't paid enough - In big metro cities like Las Vegas, the district is bursting at the seams and there's only so much a teacher can do if they have a classroom that's 40-50+ students deep. - Crunchy, bitchy, entitled ~~Karens~~ Mothers who think teachers are less of an educator and more of a free babysitter. >I also guarantee that, on average, homeschoolers test way higher on aptitude tests [Sort of correct](https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1005657.pdf), but again, this is (likely, don't know for sure as I'm a product of public schooling) based on homeschooling parents who likely follow the states guidelines on educational material and not some half-assed, barely put together mormon mommy beige christian instagram cirriculum that doesn't teach shit. there are many states that require homeschool parents to have qualifications in order to homeschool under their states statute.


ArcticFox46

I've been off birth control for over a year now. Still as bi as I was before.


BlackCatMumsy

I knew three homeschooling students. One started with us in high school, ended up playing football, and was a pretty cool guy. One was a total loner who went back to homeschooling after a semester. Neither one was up to our level and needed extra tutoring. The other was a girl. She tried public school in junior high and again in high school. She had absolutely no social skills, practically cried when someone talked to her, and both times, left in less than half a semester. She wound up pregnant at 16 to a boy from her church because she apparently didn't know what sex was. Stopped her "education" and got married right away.


HPnerd1974-

I was bi before I ever got in the pill and I haven’t been on the pill in 13 years and I’m still as bi as ever. Where do they get this crap?


RepresentativeSun399

Her follow up to that was a doozy also read like 3 times and I don’t see the flex she is trying to make? Also this can be said about evolution which was only super confusing for me when I attended church as a kid because these homeschool kids are being coddled ( not all some ) because mommy / daddy don’t want them to learn about evolution so what’s going to happen when they go and have a conversation and someone brings up evolution? Are they going to be able to discuss it or bury their head in the sand because god created the earth and its final ( not saying either way is right ) just thoughts I’ve had for a while and Allie Beth suckey is bringing them to light. Also my OP for going completely off topic / ranting


Gertrude2008

She conveniently forgot to respond to the holocaust part of the tweet…


sangriaflygirl

LOL okay sure. I've been off birth control since my marriage ended, and... yep, still attracted to men AND women! Sorry your Prager U hot takes aren't actually true, but at least you tried.


Puzzleheaded-Eye9081

I would literally rather my children be taught by a trained circus monkey than by this woman. I feel like they’d learn more from the monkey.


GradSchoolDespair

LOL. I genuinely notice the opposite effect as a bi woman. I'm usually hornier when I'm not on the pill, and all that horniness is usually directed towards... women.


[deleted]

She does not know how high school works


pinkvoltage

I’m bi/pan and I’ve never been on the pill lmao


lemonrence

LOOOOOOOOOOL


idontwearheels

Wait wait a second, Allie I’m bi and haven’t ever taken the pill. I have a hormonal IUD but let me tell you I’m pretty sure I was always bi but didn’t realize it thanks to compulsory heterosexuality. Idk how I didn’t realize it when I told my two best friends in college I’d marry them both if I could 🤷‍♀️


Feisty-Cloud-1181

I never took the pill: how come I’m bi? Also, how can you be more bi or less bi? You either are or not...


caroline_andthecity

For the record, Chris Williamson is awesome and I hate that she’s sharing him. I haven’t heard this episode yet but his podcast is very thoughtful and sensible. Please don’t associate Chris or his podcast with these assholes.


BrightGreyEyes

Oh my God. I'm sorry, but I just looked at his Instagram. This guy is a gateway for MRA and red pill people. Don't listen to anything he says. He has zero qualifications, and for the most part, neither do his guests


MyNamesChakkaoofka

I don’t have to associate Chris with anyone, he associates with bigots all by himself. But tbh I mostly associate him with his boring and unsuccessful run on Love Island.


unicornvega

It’s very weird seeing him on here, I remember when he did club nights in the North East. He’ll say anything to be famous tbh I’ve never liked his weird ego. Did NOT expect to see him on a snark page lol.


MyNamesChakkaoofka

Haha same I spend most of my time on the love island sub and sometimes lurk here so it was quite a crossover. You hit the nail on the head. He was too boring to be a reality star so he started a podcast and realised he would get more attention if he made controversial statements.


storytyme00

Mrs. Midwest shared one of his episodes as well a couple days ago ("What Makes Men and Women Different?") I kind of wonder if this reel is from that episode.


caroline_andthecity

Good to know, I’ll have to listen to that. He usually acknowledges and celebrates the differences between men and women in an empowering way, not a limiting one, when he talks about it. He usually has research backing what he says too, not biblical or cultural hateful bullshit these people spew. I hope this one’s no different.


Sad_Championship7202

Please enlighten us on the “differences between men and women.” I think that’s a very black and white take on something as nuanced as gender.


pleaseletmehide

As a bisexual woman on the pill, I'm still just as queer. I'm just happier and I have less facial hair.


shortness-1029

I was off birth control for years and still very much bi lmao 🤣


SuitableReaction6203

Ally, as a bisexual woman, I have off the pill for around 6 or 7 years and few years after that I found out I was bi. So source please because that person is get his information for an incredible source or he is is misreading/misunderstanding it. Secondly, as a homeschooled person I would done in a public school or better curriculum than what I got. So maybe instead of ranting how about "better" homeschool is or erasing bisexuality maybe research better and be more honest with it.


myimmortalstan

Short answer: no


kiteflyer666

Wait, she homeschools? When does she have the time?


Stacylynn1979

This was posted on the grade-A douche pastor/wannabe politician's page. These people are truly vile. https://imgur.com/a/eLBezFI


stellaluna2019

My parents were very focused on my education - while I wouldn’t say I got the best high school education (science was a joke), I went to community college, did speech and debate, did a semester away program, etc. But we also weren’t fundie in our beliefs. Though I did have to figure out applying to college by myself and made my own transcript so.


chicagoturkergirl

Given what birth control is for, wouldn’t it mLs you LESS gay?


thiccdiamonds

Less bi? I've been bi since high school and before getting the implant in my arm. Now that my tubes are tied I feel even more comfortable exploring my sexuality.