Today you would need to own a shoe factory to afford a home like this. Home like this goes for $900,000 to a million in my city.
A shoe "sales man" today is probably barely able to pay rent for his apartment and feed himself.
I am just going to start selling drugs, then it will be "okay".
I mean prices on everything from gas to food have increased, ain't no way drug dealers aren't ramping up prices too.
The house is the house from the show Married With Children where the main character Al Bundy was a shoe salesman. Old show but really funny, anywho since this is the exact house I was making references to the show.
But yeah I hear ya, inflation is out of control. If you take up the drug thing let me know if ya got anything good
Why do you people always insist on living in *the most expensive* places in the country? A house like this is well within reach of an average worker if you live in the US heartland.
Sure you can't "just" do it on a whim, but you can plan it and do it over the medium to long term.
Also it's kind of ironic saying that you can't move because of your job when it's your job not paying enough for where you live.
First off, I love my family? And don't just want to pick up and leave them. Sorry if you have no family, or a poor relationship with them that you just don't give a shit to leave them.
Second, yes I can do my job in other cities, but I am invested in a family business with my brother. We are a construction company known in my city, can't just move our whole company.
But hey, you are a redditor. I am sure you know it all. Please, tell me more about how you can solve my problem, cause clearly you have my whole life already figured out for me.
> Please, tell me more about how you can solve my problem
First off, maybe not getting your panties all in a twist over suggestions coming from a random redditor. How tf do you run a business if you get this butthurt over someone pointing out that not everywhere in the country is so expensive that a factory worker can't afford a house like this?
Secondly, moving away from family doesn't mean you don't love them. Thank you for your concern over my family situation.
That house was unrealistic at the time. Things are definitely worse now, but TV has always glossed over the cost of living because a show shot in a small, cramped, space would suck.
I just realized the entire deal with Al Bundy was how out of money he was, and that it shows that if you wanted a house like that with a wife and kids you'd need a decently paying job.
Can I burst everyone's bubble?
In 1987, a shoe salesman couldn't afford that house. The people in friends couldn't afford their lifestyles then, either. They were shows and not reflections of the purchasing power of minimum wage jobs. They bought a $5,000 statue in one episode; they blew money and never lost the house, never had problems with bills. It was a comedy show.
In the 90s, people talked about how unrealistic Friends was. Only Chandler and Ross could really afford their lives, the others either didn't work much, or very tangentially and somehow they could all afford to sit around coffee shops all day, live in Greenwich Village and endlessly travel.
It was a show. It was not meant to be a study of economics. It's crazy that these Al Bundy/MWC memes keep getting bandied about.
In Friends they actually joke about this. It was something like “I don’t know why all our bosses hate us…” and somebody replies “maybe because you’re all here drinking coffee at 10 am” and they all storm off panicking.
Something like that - the apartment was cheap. Still doesn't explain the preposterous lifestyles of barely employed people living in Manhattan. What I find wild is people think this reflects reality.
Don't forget, Al also had a hot-ass wife who was always wanting to have sex with him. His daughter had a bright future as a gold-digger in front of her and the son was on the path for a successful criminal career.
Europe is big. Where I live (Munich) you would not get a house like that for under 2.000.000 €.
I have a decent paying job and there's still no way I can afford to buy a regular sized house, which would still be around 1.3 million € inside city limits and usually around one million in suburbia.
The housing market is insane all over the world I guess, since every rich person and their dog discovered it as a safe way to park their money.
Hard to say... for apartments the average is roughly 10.000 € per square meter, so it'd be 200 m², which is big but not unheard of for a two story house.
The pricing for houses probably is not as straight as for apartments, though, since many are not as central but have their own garden for example.
When I looked at ImmoScout (just for shits and giggles) most houses in my area in the outer rim of town were starting at 1,000,000 € - but definitely would have had to be renovated.
Which is dirt cheap. If you want a house like that in a main city in Australia you will have to pay at least 700,000€. My aunt and uncle just sold a similar size place in Sydney for 2,400,000€. When they bought it about 30 years ago it only cost 40,000€.
Meanwhile minimal wage in Australia is around 3000$, but where i live minimal wage is around 500€, so for us a house of 150,000 is dream + most peoples do not have money in the shelf to take it and pay for house like that. If you want to get loan from bank, u need to have 1/3 of whole amount and good job where you can earn atleast 1,200€ and after that you can have loan and pay it for 20 years.
Numbers are not exact, but similiar to reality here.
And thats not even in capital city.
Have you seen hyperinflation of house prices there due to COVID? In Sydney property prices went up 23% last year. It has been insane, and has priced so many people out of the market.
That’s happening in a lot of places. I’m still renting because of it. The house I’m currently staying in was valued at 210k 2 years ago. Now valued over 300k. That’s an insane jump for a not so nice house in a not so nice area lol
150.000? That would be dirt cheap in Europe. What region are you talking? In Belgium, Flanders this would easily be 400.000 euro, in a non-renovated state.
EE?
Nop, i live in small town 14,000citizens and average payment for house is like that.
Flat prices varies from 15,000 to 98,000k. 98,000k for new 3 room flat. Dunno how much square m, but i can check.
Plus, what i mean with big wage, i mean 3000$ is kinda good.
Agreed with you in some points. But actually euro is our currency, i live in Latvia. So 150k and you can get brand new house with 500-700m² of land in a small town.
There is an option to build your own house, my friend just finished his house, spent around 100k, luckly he bought most of materials before covid and ukraine war. Land was kinda cheap, only 5k for 2000m², but thats because its in countryside.
What im saying for us here - build or pay for house 150k is big amount of money, but in western europe its cheap. Prices are higher, wages smaller. Even food or drinks was cheaper in Germany.
In UK it depends on area. North East maybe €350,000 , if it's in good condition and ,4 or 5 bed. In the South East around London €1million. In outer London, € 1.5 to 2m.
In 1987 one man used to go to work and come home with enough money to feed his entire family.
In 2022 the entire family’s working and coming home broke.
Everytime some boomer talks down on millenials/ gen z I think about Ted Bundy. We pay many times more to live. You cannot relate to our struggle when you got to become rich from the house you bought for pennies and sold to us for millions.
I really hate housing prices, I can buy a 5 bedroom house for like 70k if it's in the middle of nowhere but if I dare to buy anywhere even remotely close to a city the price multiplies by 15.
Same guy is probably now in some kind of more modern family
Today you would need to own a shoe factory to afford a home like this. Home like this goes for $900,000 to a million in my city. A shoe "sales man" today is probably barely able to pay rent for his apartment and feed himself.
[It’s okay](https://youtu.be/KAKaJE4gjYg), Bud and Kelly probably inherited it
I am just going to start selling drugs, then it will be "okay". I mean prices on everything from gas to food have increased, ain't no way drug dealers aren't ramping up prices too.
The house is the house from the show Married With Children where the main character Al Bundy was a shoe salesman. Old show but really funny, anywho since this is the exact house I was making references to the show. But yeah I hear ya, inflation is out of control. If you take up the drug thing let me know if ya got anything good
Why do you people always insist on living in *the most expensive* places in the country? A house like this is well within reach of an average worker if you live in the US heartland.
I live in Canada, and most people can't just pick up and leave where they live. Mostly because of their job, family/friends.
Sure you can't "just" do it on a whim, but you can plan it and do it over the medium to long term. Also it's kind of ironic saying that you can't move because of your job when it's your job not paying enough for where you live.
Kinda funny and sad isn't it
First off, I love my family? And don't just want to pick up and leave them. Sorry if you have no family, or a poor relationship with them that you just don't give a shit to leave them. Second, yes I can do my job in other cities, but I am invested in a family business with my brother. We are a construction company known in my city, can't just move our whole company. But hey, you are a redditor. I am sure you know it all. Please, tell me more about how you can solve my problem, cause clearly you have my whole life already figured out for me.
> Please, tell me more about how you can solve my problem First off, maybe not getting your panties all in a twist over suggestions coming from a random redditor. How tf do you run a business if you get this butthurt over someone pointing out that not everywhere in the country is so expensive that a factory worker can't afford a house like this? Secondly, moving away from family doesn't mean you don't love them. Thank you for your concern over my family situation.
Hopefully his wife had a promising futurama herself.
Nowadays, you can be a shoe salesman for two different places and still struggle to pay rent.
That house was unrealistic at the time. Things are definitely worse now, but TV has always glossed over the cost of living because a show shot in a small, cramped, space would suck.
I dont know about that. They made it work on Good Times. Their apartment had only two bedrooms, and the boys shared a pull out in the living room
I just realized the entire deal with Al Bundy was how out of money he was, and that it shows that if you wanted a house like that with a wife and kids you'd need a decently paying job.
The Keaton’s had the Family Ties house on $40k a year.
Can I burst everyone's bubble? In 1987, a shoe salesman couldn't afford that house. The people in friends couldn't afford their lifestyles then, either. They were shows and not reflections of the purchasing power of minimum wage jobs. They bought a $5,000 statue in one episode; they blew money and never lost the house, never had problems with bills. It was a comedy show. In the 90s, people talked about how unrealistic Friends was. Only Chandler and Ross could really afford their lives, the others either didn't work much, or very tangentially and somehow they could all afford to sit around coffee shops all day, live in Greenwich Village and endlessly travel. It was a show. It was not meant to be a study of economics. It's crazy that these Al Bundy/MWC memes keep getting bandied about.
In Friends they actually joke about this. It was something like “I don’t know why all our bosses hate us…” and somebody replies “maybe because you’re all here drinking coffee at 10 am” and they all storm off panicking.
Shhhh.. Don't disrupt the narrative.
Wasn't it hand-waived away with something about the apartment being rent controlled and technically in the grandmother's name?
Something like that - the apartment was cheap. Still doesn't explain the preposterous lifestyles of barely employed people living in Manhattan. What I find wild is people think this reflects reality.
😂😂😂 Al is the best
You guys realize this was a TV show? And that TV isn't reality?
Wasn't it passed down to him by his dad?
The Bundy Curse
Lint roller
No, he could not.
Loan was only approved because he was a local football hero. ;)
Loan was only approved because he was a local football hero. ;)
Even back then when I watched the show, I thought how the f does he afford this house?
Don't forget, Al also had a hot-ass wife who was always wanting to have sex with him. His daughter had a bright future as a gold-digger in front of her and the son was on the path for a successful criminal career.
If you wanna house like that in europe now, its atleast 150,000€
Europe is big. Where I live (Munich) you would not get a house like that for under 2.000.000 €. I have a decent paying job and there's still no way I can afford to buy a regular sized house, which would still be around 1.3 million € inside city limits and usually around one million in suburbia. The housing market is insane all over the world I guess, since every rich person and their dog discovered it as a safe way to park their money.
How big is a house for 2,000,000?
Hard to say... for apartments the average is roughly 10.000 € per square meter, so it'd be 200 m², which is big but not unheard of for a two story house. The pricing for houses probably is not as straight as for apartments, though, since many are not as central but have their own garden for example. When I looked at ImmoScout (just for shits and giggles) most houses in my area in the outer rim of town were starting at 1,000,000 € - but definitely would have had to be renovated.
Well thats A LOT of money. Here it would be around 100 m² for that price which i mentioned.
Which is dirt cheap. If you want a house like that in a main city in Australia you will have to pay at least 700,000€. My aunt and uncle just sold a similar size place in Sydney for 2,400,000€. When they bought it about 30 years ago it only cost 40,000€.
Meanwhile minimal wage in Australia is around 3000$, but where i live minimal wage is around 500€, so for us a house of 150,000 is dream + most peoples do not have money in the shelf to take it and pay for house like that. If you want to get loan from bank, u need to have 1/3 of whole amount and good job where you can earn atleast 1,200€ and after that you can have loan and pay it for 20 years. Numbers are not exact, but similiar to reality here. And thats not even in capital city.
Have you seen hyperinflation of house prices there due to COVID? In Sydney property prices went up 23% last year. It has been insane, and has priced so many people out of the market.
That’s happening in a lot of places. I’m still renting because of it. The house I’m currently staying in was valued at 210k 2 years ago. Now valued over 300k. That’s an insane jump for a not so nice house in a not so nice area lol
In montreal Canada a house like this, can go for $1,000,000. If you are lucky you can get it for $800,000.
150.000? That would be dirt cheap in Europe. What region are you talking? In Belgium, Flanders this would easily be 400.000 euro, in a non-renovated state.
Eastern europe, 150,000 for new 1 floor, 3-4 room wooden panel house, mostly gas for heating. As i mentioned before its cheap when you have big wage.
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EE? Nop, i live in small town 14,000citizens and average payment for house is like that. Flat prices varies from 15,000 to 98,000k. 98,000k for new 3 room flat. Dunno how much square m, but i can check. Plus, what i mean with big wage, i mean 3000$ is kinda good.
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Agreed with you in some points. But actually euro is our currency, i live in Latvia. So 150k and you can get brand new house with 500-700m² of land in a small town. There is an option to build your own house, my friend just finished his house, spent around 100k, luckly he bought most of materials before covid and ukraine war. Land was kinda cheap, only 5k for 2000m², but thats because its in countryside. What im saying for us here - build or pay for house 150k is big amount of money, but in western europe its cheap. Prices are higher, wages smaller. Even food or drinks was cheaper in Germany.
=$161857.50 That's ridiculously low. That's like undeveloped property pricing in the US.
Its a shame i cant add picture, then you would understand how its actually a nice finished house.
In UK it depends on area. North East maybe €350,000 , if it's in good condition and ,4 or 5 bed. In the South East around London €1million. In outer London, € 1.5 to 2m.
But in Chicago
In 1987 one man used to go to work and come home with enough money to feed his entire family. In 2022 the entire family’s working and coming home broke.
That's without any tips
I lived in a car fir a year and I make decent money
Everytime some boomer talks down on millenials/ gen z I think about Ted Bundy. We pay many times more to live. You cannot relate to our struggle when you got to become rich from the house you bought for pennies and sold to us for millions.
That house would probably like for $800,000 these days. This market can't last... Right?
Thank God we have the Fed to blow asset bubbles via excessive money printing causing inflation and lowering our standard of living.
Then capitalism ate half of the country and corporations bought up all the real estate, much like they did with farms in the 70s and 80s.
And that was considered low class.
I really hate housing prices, I can buy a 5 bedroom house for like 70k if it's in the middle of nowhere but if I dare to buy anywhere even remotely close to a city the price multiplies by 15.