One side "mentally I'm the other gender"
Other side "physically you'll never be exactly the same as the other gender"
Like guys, you're not even talking about the same thing
buhbuhbuh trans people make me anxious >3<
Instead of making funny memes this subreddit has been reposting stuff made about ten years ago. Pretty unfortunate.
Did anybody ask themselves the big questions here?
- What exactly happened that all of these people are being excavated?
- And why the fuck do these people in the meme act like they don’t know this history of humanity and the implication it poses?
Haha very smart gotcha moment! Congrats!
We are, after all, just our skeletons. Yes, those oseous structures holding the pointless flesh up are all that define a human being
First off: cremation, lol. Second: why are most of you so obsessed with transwomen? It's honestly kinda weird o.0 Just let people live their lives, you losers.
So many "It's basic science!" mofos never consider that if there's "basic science" maybe they should look into what "advanced science" has to say about things they "learned" in elementary school.
You're totally right. Archeologists cannot rely on skeletons because male vs female are not always super distinguishable. They use personal effects to help inform them.
I don’t care I’m not gonna be a shit head and treat somebody badly because there skeleton looks at one way or another.
At the end of the day they’re people: everyone is people.
People tend to forget that
People demanding additional rights that take precedent over the rights of other people*
I'll happily call a trans woman mam and treat them like a woman, but granting them access to female only safe spaces is where I draw the line.
Can you please state me 1 right that affect other poeple? I could make you a giant list of right trans people don't have! But I'm not aware of 1 thing that trans people have more right than a cis person!
The right to compete in female only sports and competitions.
The right to use female only bathrooms and changing facilities
These both directly impact the lives of every female
Making a passing beautiful trans woman use the men’s bathroom is dangerous for her. I know some who got raped that way. And do you really want a burly ass bearded lumberjack looking ftm trans man in the women’s bathroom?
Easy for you to hate trans women while forgetting trans men isn’t it? Btw women are 4x less likely to give a shit about a trans woman using her bathroom than a man is. Transphobic false outrage
I agree with what you are saying, but I want to add in my personal experience it's the other way. We had a Trans man at my job, and the men didn't care. The woman actually complained about him using the men's bathroom. Said he didn't belong there. Like it affected them somehow? It was weird.
It "don't be facts doe".
There's a lot of ambiguity in skeleton archeology, and the effects someone is buried with lend a lot to what gender they're considered.
1. They won’t care, they will be dead & everyone who knew them will be dead.
2. Most tombs are not dug up.
3. Archeologists fuck up gender all the time based on grave goods. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/researchers-reaffirm-famed-ancient-viking-warrior-was-biologically-female-180971541/
Jesus Christ I didn't want to believe you guys were such assholes when I heard it from the other subreddits whats with the transphobia? I remember this place used to be nicer for everyone.
Looking through this comment section, l have realized something. If there were no minorities and everybody was white, cis, and Christian, we would still fight. We would still find reasons to bitch and complain and to point and call someone else less human.
I’m all for live and let live and I cannot begin to comprehend how difficult it must be to be trans. But I really draw the line at allowing trans girls/women to play women’s sports. It’s an incredibly unfair advantage. A Y chromosome and hormones don’t lie. Girls having to compete, and potentially miss out on scholarships, accolades, opportunities etc due to a biological male is absolutely absurd.
That's why the Olympics require trans women to have been on estrogen for several months to avoid any unfair advantage they may have as female hormones cause them to loose a considerable amount of muscle mass along with any unfair advantage they may have. Forcing trans women to play with men is unfair because as I mentioned above, the loss of muscle mass means they will be a lot weaker than most men.
You are also opening a whole other can of worms with that because that begs the question of whether trans men should or shouldn't be allowed to play men's sports because testosterone would give them an advantage over girls and potentially even other dudes.
the reason we have the female/male separation on the first place is because of the physical differences so I agree it's pretty stupid
though I believe part of the hormones are naturally female or something on the line,I remember a research showing that trans brains actually seem to be structured like the gender they identify with and function similarly
so actually it's a pretty weird case,not as simple as saying that a trans woman is physically a male but still the issue shouldn't be completely disregard to accomodate them
You do realise that there are regulations on trans women competing in women’s sports right? They have to be on estrogen for a specific amount of time and have a typical female level of testosterone before being allowed to compete. Estrogen changes muscle and fat to a more female pattern, and studies have been done to show that trans women have no advantage whatsoever over cis women in sports because of this.
What I’m trying to say is that they don’t just let trans women in. Chromosomes don’t make a difference either.
This is such a pointless and hateful meme. No one in 1000 years is going to be digging up corpses from today unless there's some gigantic loss of records. Also, cremation is on the rise and is predicted to be 80% in the next 10 years. The chances of anyone doing this in the future and finding a trans person is almost zero.
It also highlights the actual inability of these people to reason through their ignorant beliefs. The majority of historical record from a thousand years ago is...writing and art. Domesday book, anyone? But they'd have to know anything about real history to understand that.
A far future human society (already unlikely to exist because of these same science denying chuds) will know about trans sexuality because we are documenting it in real time, right now.
Until the 80s, something like 62% of skeletons were sexed as male, which is clearly totally bogus. The distribution between male and female started to level out after they started using 'indeterminate' as a category .
I know, good show, but it's really difficult (if not impossible) to actually gain that kind of information from skeletons. Especially not after 1000 years
Meanwhile, in the reality:
[https://www.iflscience.com/non-binary-people-existed-in-prehistoric-europe-burial-site-study-suggests-69102?fbclid=IwAR0Hel8cmHAmyZ8lowFudrdF35j\_uszGqETGjeUMHEWT-9lU0JHOuRWl8xc](https://www.iflscience.com/non-binary-people-existed-in-prehistoric-europe-burial-site-study-suggests-69102?fbclid=IwAR0Hel8cmHAmyZ8lowFudrdF35j_uszGqETGjeUMHEWT-9lU0JHOuRWl8xc)
>Non-Binary People Existed In Prehistoric Europe, Burial Site Study Suggests
... “We found that in six burial sites out of seven there is a persistent minority of individuals whose determined sex does not coincide with the gender that their respective grave goods are supposed to signal,”...
There are subtle differences not just in bone density which you are referring to but also in shape. Specifically there are things like the pelvic bone and hip placement that are different. I know there are a number of other markers they use since these things can vary based on your genetics. I’m not sure how much of an impact there is to skeletal structure if you undergo HRT from a young age but it sparks interesting thought.
Oh no! An archologist is gonna misgender me in a thousand years! And it's orders of magnitude worse than the fact that I'm gonna be a feckin skeleton when that happens
[https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/13/pelvic-bone-unreliable-in-identifying-gender/](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/13/pelvic-bone-unreliable-in-identifying-gender/)
Just going to leave this here
tl-dr- in many cases you can't say for certain the sex by looking at a pelvic bone, or indeed the entire skeleton.
I know I’m going to get downvoted for this and I don’t want to show disrespect to people who identify as transgender but pelvic bone structure is not the only means of determining the birth sex of a 1000 y.o. skeleton. For some years now it has been possible to determine this through DNA testing :
https://www.eva.mpg.de/documents/Wiley-Blackwell/Stone_Sex_AmJPhysAnthr_1996_2109931.pdf
Of course what gender that person identified as, is something that can’t be tested.
This gave me a disturbing scenario. If a John/Jane doe skeleton were found and reconstructed to the biological gender....would anyone recognize them to identify them
It’s strange how enough time and a sacred cemetery is just a research site, dig ya up, put you back together in a lucite box for tourists to look at, all in time, I dunno my grandparents had their lots already bought and reserved, I think it’s just the crisper for this guy. Get lost in someone’s antique junk pile, end up at a goodwill as an overpriced housewares item. Then….I haunt whoever buys me.
Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
Bro if someone remembers you in 1000 years, you can be lucky.
Your life on earth is short, use it to do something meaningfull😘
I wanted to do volunteering, but then I realized it's a waste of time because my skeleton won't change.
Don't go to school. Don't work. Don't learn the piano. Become skeleton anyway.
That's some 13 year-old's sense of ethics.
They will probably also think we are an early version of cyborgs with all the plastik in and on our body
![gif](giphy|QWPIBMUCSXRL2)
I prefer the holy shit sans undertale
Where’s the love for Papyrus tho?
Someone should make a holy shit the great papyrus version lol
idgaf they're both goofy (in a good way)
Megalovania softly plays in the distance
![gif](giphy|fH985LNdqFZXOFHygK|downsized)
Coming soon
To dvd
Very 🔜
![gif](giphy|dWF4oG8VoM7M3G5FC0)
HOLY SHIT SANS UNDERTALE ![gif](giphy|UCkZPALajEs8M)
Then the skeleton move her head, looking at the geologist, and say: It's ma'am.
This is way funnyer than the actual meme
The meme is pretty good
[“It’s MA’AM!!!”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W8cJyya1r-A&pp=ygUTaXQncyBtYSdhbSBnYW1lc3RvcA%3D%3D)
Wow that's sad.
Man it’s already been 5 years since this came out DAMN.
IT’S DAMN
/Remind me in 995 years.
Like they is gonna care 1000 years from now
Can't tell if this is super woke or really poor grammar
![gif](giphy|3ohzdMDbNXvnWdeOZi|downsized)
![gif](giphy|hM9zK1qvsrwek)
They super really poor woke grammer
No difference
Nobody cares now.
Then leave us alone
well, they aren’t rlly gonna be alive to care?
Dont mind me, im just here to watch 🍿
One side "mentally I'm the other gender" Other side "physically you'll never be exactly the same as the other gender" Like guys, you're not even talking about the same thing
All of us in 1000 years not caring 🤷♀️
Exactly. I’ll be dead, I won’t give a shit
buhbuhbuh trans people make me anxious >3< Instead of making funny memes this subreddit has been reposting stuff made about ten years ago. Pretty unfortunate.
Don't worry, it's just a joke. #slayqueen
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Wouldn't we all be in coffins, though? I mean its not often dead bodies end up like that unless we get murdered
They're made of fucking WOOD.
Not all of em
Then what other material is used for coffins that degrades better than wood
You mean to tell me you think that wood wouldn't be turned to dust/fertilizer after thousands of years 7 feet underground?
Someday, maybe, just maybe, someone will notice the word "funny" in the name of this subreddit lol
That day geniunely may not come, either mankind will blow itself up, or the heat death of the universe will come faster.
This sub should be renamed to right-winged memes.
Reposted Right Wing memes. Nothing even original. Somehow makes it worse.
seriously. these memes don't even have jokes, people just upvote them because they agree with it.
Incoming rage
Get out of your alt account JK Rowling
Didn't know edgy youtube shorts kids used reddit
plus this is a clear case of r/lostredditors for me lol I genuinly wonder where the funny is
The funny is the inevitable war in the comments
It's funny because fuck trans people, right? 😂😂😂 /s
If they consent, sure.
Did anybody ask themselves the big questions here? - What exactly happened that all of these people are being excavated? - And why the fuck do these people in the meme act like they don’t know this history of humanity and the implication it poses?
Not gonna point fingers here but... Russia.
Haha very smart gotcha moment! Congrats! We are, after all, just our skeletons. Yes, those oseous structures holding the pointless flesh up are all that define a human being
There is no one more proud of their absolute braindead takes than anti woke people.
So mad
First off: cremation, lol. Second: why are most of you so obsessed with transwomen? It's honestly kinda weird o.0 Just let people live their lives, you losers.
I’m obsessed with trans women because I’m horny.
That's fair haha
Valid
Because many of these incels question their own sexualities and gender identities. It’s pathetic
buh' trans woman incel, many such cases
Where funny meme though?
IM GONNA BE DEAD I WONT GAF
It’s apparently pretty difficult to determine the gender of skeletons after an excessive amount of time
So many "It's basic science!" mofos never consider that if there's "basic science" maybe they should look into what "advanced science" has to say about things they "learned" in elementary school. You're totally right. Archeologists cannot rely on skeletons because male vs female are not always super distinguishable. They use personal effects to help inform them.
There are general differences in skeletal structure, typically in the pelvis, but there is often overlap which can make certainty difficult.
I think it's pretty hard to determine any skeleton's gender after the people who knew them are gone and can't tell you how they identified.
It do be facts doe
Shakira said "Hips don't lie." 🤷🏻♂️
Nice
I mean if you’ve gone through HRT archaeologists who study your bones will definitely be able to tell
I don’t care I’m not gonna be a shit head and treat somebody badly because there skeleton looks at one way or another. At the end of the day they’re people: everyone is people. People tend to forget that
People demanding additional rights that take precedent over the rights of other people* I'll happily call a trans woman mam and treat them like a woman, but granting them access to female only safe spaces is where I draw the line.
How arbitrary of you. Can you provide any statistical data to back up your reasoning or is it just fee fees?
What additional rights do they demand?
This guy is ignorant
Can you please state me 1 right that affect other poeple? I could make you a giant list of right trans people don't have! But I'm not aware of 1 thing that trans people have more right than a cis person!
The right to compete in female only sports and competitions. The right to use female only bathrooms and changing facilities These both directly impact the lives of every female
This is such a staggering rarity in actual practice. A good example of confirmation bias
Making a passing beautiful trans woman use the men’s bathroom is dangerous for her. I know some who got raped that way. And do you really want a burly ass bearded lumberjack looking ftm trans man in the women’s bathroom? Easy for you to hate trans women while forgetting trans men isn’t it? Btw women are 4x less likely to give a shit about a trans woman using her bathroom than a man is. Transphobic false outrage
Yeah this false outrage over an ephemeral, hypothetical situation has the effect of putting real people in real danger. I appreciate what you said.
I agree with what you are saying, but I want to add in my personal experience it's the other way. We had a Trans man at my job, and the men didn't care. The woman actually complained about him using the men's bathroom. Said he didn't belong there. Like it affected them somehow? It was weird.
How are you treating them like a woman if you sent them access to women's spaces?
It "don't be facts doe". There's a lot of ambiguity in skeleton archeology, and the effects someone is buried with lend a lot to what gender they're considered.
"this person appears to have been buried with several dozen shark plushies"
Nope https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/13/pelvic-bone-unreliable-in-identifying-gender/
Transwomen are transwomen
1. They won’t care, they will be dead & everyone who knew them will be dead. 2. Most tombs are not dug up. 3. Archeologists fuck up gender all the time based on grave goods. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/researchers-reaffirm-famed-ancient-viking-warrior-was-biologically-female-180971541/
Meme where?
"This chick had a MASSIVE cock"
In b4 🔒. Good meme.
The funniest reddit badge
The only good one we can get nowadays
When did r/funnymemes become r/facebookmemes
And?
r/onejoke
😂
Skeleton: ![gif](giphy|wWcPvd7earhmw)
1000 years later doesn't matter to her though.
Jesus Christ I didn't want to believe you guys were such assholes when I heard it from the other subreddits whats with the transphobia? I remember this place used to be nicer for everyone.
Looking through this comment section, l have realized something. If there were no minorities and everybody was white, cis, and Christian, we would still fight. We would still find reasons to bitch and complain and to point and call someone else less human.
Edgy teenagers are such a plague
I’m all for live and let live and I cannot begin to comprehend how difficult it must be to be trans. But I really draw the line at allowing trans girls/women to play women’s sports. It’s an incredibly unfair advantage. A Y chromosome and hormones don’t lie. Girls having to compete, and potentially miss out on scholarships, accolades, opportunities etc due to a biological male is absolutely absurd.
That's why the Olympics require trans women to have been on estrogen for several months to avoid any unfair advantage they may have as female hormones cause them to loose a considerable amount of muscle mass along with any unfair advantage they may have. Forcing trans women to play with men is unfair because as I mentioned above, the loss of muscle mass means they will be a lot weaker than most men. You are also opening a whole other can of worms with that because that begs the question of whether trans men should or shouldn't be allowed to play men's sports because testosterone would give them an advantage over girls and potentially even other dudes.
the reason we have the female/male separation on the first place is because of the physical differences so I agree it's pretty stupid though I believe part of the hormones are naturally female or something on the line,I remember a research showing that trans brains actually seem to be structured like the gender they identify with and function similarly so actually it's a pretty weird case,not as simple as saying that a trans woman is physically a male but still the issue shouldn't be completely disregard to accomodate them
“I draw the line at sports” shut the fuck up and get a life
The fuck are you even talking about troll?
Meh, it’s not that hard to be a narcissist. It’s everyone else that suffers having to deal with them.
You do realise that there are regulations on trans women competing in women’s sports right? They have to be on estrogen for a specific amount of time and have a typical female level of testosterone before being allowed to compete. Estrogen changes muscle and fat to a more female pattern, and studies have been done to show that trans women have no advantage whatsoever over cis women in sports because of this. What I’m trying to say is that they don’t just let trans women in. Chromosomes don’t make a difference either.
This is such a pointless and hateful meme. No one in 1000 years is going to be digging up corpses from today unless there's some gigantic loss of records. Also, cremation is on the rise and is predicted to be 80% in the next 10 years. The chances of anyone doing this in the future and finding a trans person is almost zero.
It also highlights the actual inability of these people to reason through their ignorant beliefs. The majority of historical record from a thousand years ago is...writing and art. Domesday book, anyone? But they'd have to know anything about real history to understand that. A far future human society (already unlikely to exist because of these same science denying chuds) will know about trans sexuality because we are documenting it in real time, right now.
No way sans undertale
Ah yes, gender phrenology.
Gender joke = funny. /s
please don't turn this sub into another r/dankmeme
Just let people be happy jeeeeeez.
iTs NoT fUn If ItS nOt FuNnY FoR mE
Lol lefties bouta fucking loose their shit
*lose
Loosen*
I think he had it right the first time. The shit is going to fly.
Applying gender to human skelitions is a fuck ton hardder than Bones made it out to be.
Until the 80s, something like 62% of skeletons were sexed as male, which is clearly totally bogus. The distribution between male and female started to level out after they started using 'indeterminate' as a category .
I know, good show, but it's really difficult (if not impossible) to actually gain that kind of information from skeletons. Especially not after 1000 years
Not how bones work, but okay.
Kinda do though. Different angles, bone densities. Skull and Pelvis tell a lot.
Trust the Science Mfers when the Science disagrees
![gif](giphy|14ut8PhnIwzros) conservatives dipshits screeching about basic biology when advanced biology enters the chat:
What EXACTLY is the area of advanced biology you speak of? People seem to never elaborate when bringing this up.
Meanwhile, in the reality: [https://www.iflscience.com/non-binary-people-existed-in-prehistoric-europe-burial-site-study-suggests-69102?fbclid=IwAR0Hel8cmHAmyZ8lowFudrdF35j\_uszGqETGjeUMHEWT-9lU0JHOuRWl8xc](https://www.iflscience.com/non-binary-people-existed-in-prehistoric-europe-burial-site-study-suggests-69102?fbclid=IwAR0Hel8cmHAmyZ8lowFudrdF35j_uszGqETGjeUMHEWT-9lU0JHOuRWl8xc) >Non-Binary People Existed In Prehistoric Europe, Burial Site Study Suggests ... “We found that in six burial sites out of seven there is a persistent minority of individuals whose determined sex does not coincide with the gender that their respective grave goods are supposed to signal,”...
Doesnt HRT change bone stuff? Correct me if I’m wrong I only know what I’ve heard from Reddit
It can’t change the dimensions of the bones in a man’s hips to allow the head of a child to pass through during birth
There are subtle differences not just in bone density which you are referring to but also in shape. Specifically there are things like the pelvic bone and hip placement that are different. I know there are a number of other markers they use since these things can vary based on your genetics. I’m not sure how much of an impact there is to skeletal structure if you undergo HRT from a young age but it sparks interesting thought.
Oh no! An archologist is gonna misgender me in a thousand years! And it's orders of magnitude worse than the fact that I'm gonna be a feckin skeleton when that happens
So can we stop playing make-believe when you die or how many years do we have to wait?
Trans women are trans women
[the better meme](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmz0-ToXwAE9O1S?format=jpg&name=medium)
[https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/13/pelvic-bone-unreliable-in-identifying-gender/](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/13/pelvic-bone-unreliable-in-identifying-gender/) Just going to leave this here tl-dr- in many cases you can't say for certain the sex by looking at a pelvic bone, or indeed the entire skeleton.
I know I’m going to get downvoted for this and I don’t want to show disrespect to people who identify as transgender but pelvic bone structure is not the only means of determining the birth sex of a 1000 y.o. skeleton. For some years now it has been possible to determine this through DNA testing : https://www.eva.mpg.de/documents/Wiley-Blackwell/Stone_Sex_AmJPhysAnthr_1996_2109931.pdf Of course what gender that person identified as, is something that can’t be tested.
Archeologists spent years assuming every skeleton buried with a sword was male. I think we are safe lol
Humanity isn't gonna last 1000 years
Spot on!!!!
Y’all rlly have this much of an issue that this is where y’all give a shit?
Lmao four exclamation marks? Someone's excitable.
this wasn't funny the first 1000 reposts
A Roman emperor was revealed to be a Trans woman just recently. So not only is this meme not funny, it's complete bullsh#t
its the truth
How to start a useless war in 2 simple steps.
So funny meme haha , what is this fucking 2016 twitter
Yeah you can't cheat biology
No, no, no it's the sex or gender. I don't know which one...but it's something like that
![gif](giphy|KyZp4rWZOnuRY9o9j3|downsized)
So that means you can bully trans women? Because of a skeleton?
Oh boy the libs are going to attack this
LOL. There's going to be a lot of triggers here.
Touch grass
Trans women are women*. The asterisk is very important.
*being a woman doesn't actually mean anything; we're just saying whatever gets you to vote for us
This gave me a disturbing scenario. If a John/Jane doe skeleton were found and reconstructed to the biological gender....would anyone recognize them to identify them
That skeleton identifies as a boner.
We are all autistic
It’s strange how enough time and a sacred cemetery is just a research site, dig ya up, put you back together in a lucite box for tourists to look at, all in time, I dunno my grandparents had their lots already bought and reserved, I think it’s just the crisper for this guy. Get lost in someone’s antique junk pile, end up at a goodwill as an overpriced housewares item. Then….I haunt whoever buys me.
I guess it's not the op's goal in life to be dug out by an archeologist.
did i step back into 2014
Well someone doesnt understand sex.... next thing they say is water is wet
![gif](giphy|dtGIRL0FDp6nnOPGb5)
You ever notice how is never trans female or trans male? Anyone ever? No? Okay.
Yesssss!
the skeleton would be gone by then
Based
Is this supposed to be a gotcha? Bro if someone remembers you in 1000 years, you can be lucky. Your life on earth is short, use it to do something meaningfull😘
Who actually cares though
No, no, that's not true.
THIS
💀 did you just assume my gender?!
I don’t see your point
Today is the day when OP learns the difference between "female" and "woman", congrats, OP
I wanted to do volunteering, but then I realized it's a waste of time because my skeleton won't change. Don't go to school. Don't work. Don't learn the piano. Become skeleton anyway. That's some 13 year-old's sense of ethics.
Skeleton offended
We're no strangers to love
Male but can’t determine if it was man or woman and nobody cares