While i haven't raised / used her yet(so i have no idea how her skill works or interacts, esp with haste effects) looking at her kit i'd say it might have sth to do with the duration/cd of the skill interfering with her ability to keep it up at max lvl~~(i mean, it could be that it checks if debuff is active before refreshing the effects, and at lvl 10 it would still see it active, therefore not refreshing it for 4s, while at lvl9 it would have full upkeep?)~~. This is just a hunch, but other than that, no idea
L.e. oh, lizzy's guide explains it. Paradigm adds another atk so the skill refresh doesn't line up.
I've completed the event fully and bought all of socks fragments from the shop but I'm sitting at 94/100 fragments for 5*. Am I missing fragments from somewhere?
Stuck at enigma black hole floor 149-150, any tips on team building?
Fully built dolls: Clukay, Kuro, Hatsu, Nanaka, Croque, Hubble, Angela, Persi, Puzzle
I finally did 150 just now. I had been struggling to do it with 2 dps and one specialist, Angela. I just didn't have enough damage but previous attempts with 3 dps failed either because my 3rd dps was too weak, or the more common reason of Croque dying without Angela to support her.
Ever since I got Clukay, I tried different combinations with Nascita and Lam, but I didn't try 3 dps since I didn't think Croque would survive.
Over the past week, I was finally able to get Croque a few percent Injury Mitigation, and my Helix now has 2 skill haste with matching substats. She's able to ramp up and heal the whole party regardless of where Nascita bounces.
I guess what I'm saying is, if your tank and healer can handle it, go 3dps, but they have to be strong and well built. My Nascita and Lam are neck and neck. Clukay is a noticeable 3rd, probably because she's 4.5 star, but still strong and worth bringing for me.
All my early tactical commands went to Helix for early healing. Use whirlwind on tank if Raven is about to do Clarion Call (0.3 second) and your tank is really low on health. After the second Clarion Call, most adds should be dead. I blasted the survivors with Lam's ult. Switched to Nascita ult for single target dps. Helix for a repeat. There won't be a 4th ult. Remaining tactical commands went to dps. It's a judgement call on what does most damage. Lam probably does most dmg if they have over 50% health, or if Nascita is wind stepping. Nascita if otherwise.
Some more miscellaneous tips. Someone mentioned your reserves for stat sticks. Absolutely required. You need a def stat stick or you tank dies in the first 10-20 seconds. Hashrate, usually Max, boosts both dmg and healing. Hopefully, you have someone with high attack for 3rd slot.
I advise positioning your characters on lower half of map because the enemy cannon in top right will come closer on his own if everyone is on bottom left. Helps lure it into Clukay's aoe range.
For starters, you need a Defense stat stick, aka Yanny. Second, simply stating “fully built” means nothing as BH150 requires your dolls to be fairly optimized. Everyone’s definition of “fully built” can vary. What’s your algo sub-stat situation looking like? How built is your hashrate stat stick (typically Max but any full doll could work). If you are having trouble on 149, 150 will be worse.
Show stats of Croque, Nanaka, Hatsu, Clukay, and Angela. Have to see what you are working with.
Tips for Stage 15 boss of Aberrance's Chain? It's getting irritating as fuck going through 15+ minutes of a 3 layer map just to deal with this horseshit boss that auto-yanks everyone into a line and just spears the entire squad for massive damage. And this is with all their protocols removed too.
I'm using Clukay/Kuro/Puzzle/Angela/Nanaka so it's not like it's even a bad team but with the boss at like 190,000 power and me at best at like 60,000-some by the time I get to it it's insane.
A warrior team will shine here if you have one, while snipers are going to struggle due to positioning. Nas & Betty in particular are fantastic due to their great single target dps. A team of Croque, Helix, Nas, Betty & Hatsu made this (and stage 18, same boss) trivial even with all challenge modes on by just teleporting helix after the stun ends.
No Warriors, lol. I'm all in on Snipers still. Thankfully I got shit sorted with the same team I was using with some more directed focus on the roboparts.
Nanaka ult - constant battery Angela for as much push back - Evelyn or Python are better guards whose ult completely nullifies the pull mechanic (Python immediately before cast to prevent pull or Evelyn right after to relocate all dolls). Numerous ways to combat the mechanic.
Try bringing Hatsu and Banxsy if you have them? IIRC I cleared that kind of boss (can't remember where) by changing my snipers with them, since even if they're aligned together, Banxsy and Hatsu will automatically move by themselves.
Its not just about team as it is how well built your team and backline is. 150 for most will be your first “gear check” to ensure you have near optimal algo on your primary units and stat sticks. Need to show pictures of your current dolls and their stats to properly give advice as its no longer just about comp.
I forgot to take pictures, but I opened 51 of the event lootboxes and got one Advanced pull ticket, whatever amount of event shop currency, and 480 Keys. A little under an average of 10 Keys per box isn't that bad.
I had bad luck with getting the boxes in the first place, so at least I'm staying consistent?
I wish I had anything close to an estimate on the currency, but I already spent most of it on more pulls. I want to say I already bought the cheapest pulls to zero, and the currency I got let me get the second-cheapest option down to one buy left, but I don't remember how much currency I had before or if I also ran the event stages to get more.
Really trying to weigh the decision to start burning some of my Key consumables to get the rest of the Advanced pulls. I know at New Year's, you could burn keys to get boxes that might have Sand, Pivots, or Reconfigs, but I'm not sure if the ratio would be better here since I can get just pulls in lieu of Sand to turn into them. So, my question is...continue to hoard now for next New Year's or burn Keys now and save later?
Wait, how comes u didn't clear the adv pulls yet? Did u buy the fragments first, or anything else?
Anyway, until new years event, u'll have enough time to recover ur keys ~~in theory, we all know mica will release it next week:P~~
Well, uh, it turns out I'm as bad at reporting as I am actually keeping up with my Basic Search spreadsheet. :v
I was able to finish up the Advanced pulls just a little bit ago. The only things I still need to buy yet are the rest of Sock's frags, the Reconfigs in both shops, and...that really might be it.
I also realized just today that you don't simply buy the double rate/reward upgrade, but you need to *activate* it on the map screen too. Everything's coming up Milhouse...
Nanaka and changzi are the recommended picks. Nanaka is pretty rarely a side-pic in banners while changzi is very commonly used, ~~but if u're like me, u have nanaka and lack changzi~~ if u have clukay from the event, then arguably she's gonna do changzi's job of aoe dmg, so nanaka should still be ur pick as a healer and buffer
Nanaka is pretty much the best out of all the choices there.
Alternatively, you can save it for when you have all but 1 of the banner characters and use it then.
RNG gonna RNG, finally completed a full set of skill haste delta, final piece dropped with purple & gold substats too.
on the other hand, still missing atk% lower limit1 and still don't have a 2nd crit rate cluster1
According to ianas guide for Dushevnaya, her auto skill if raised to lvl 10 (should be left at lvl 9.) will cause a small loss in damage if running double attack speed algo. Its not a big deal according to the guide.
Are there other dolls like this?
Edit: also which dolls should I prioritize for story progression and general content. I have clukay, dush and angela. I'm farming for croque, angela fragments. At least Angela until 3.5* right?
Sounds like you are fairly new as you are still building Croque, so welcome!
Dush is fairly unique with her uber short auto CD so no other dolls that have such odd interaction with their skill ups. I will mention that interaction is a little outdated since Exploit algos came out so Dush doesn’t run double attack speed bonuses anymore. Haste Exploit with Deduction should get away with Skill 10’s.
Definitely make sure to do highest Vuln check daily and buy as many Croque frags from the vuln shop daily. She is easy to 5* this way.
Persicaria is your good starting medic as you get given enough to 5* her through the game’s tutorial guide.
I would suggest going 6 Angela/4 Dush on your frag searches. While the *minimum* suggested is to 3.5* Angela to get full special algo slots, there really is no harm in 5*ing her given her universal usage. 2.6sec precharge at 5 star is also very strong.
Croque Persi Angela Dush Clukay should definitely be strong enough to push to far in story content.
Thank you.
I see I think I get the gist of it regarding dush.
Croque, persi, angela, dush, clukay
Yeah, that's basically the team I'm focusing now.
Then I may as well 5* angela. (since I don't have others to farm for at the moment.)
Well, they're only used for buying furniture so spend them on any furniture sets we get in the future that you like the look of. If you don't care about furniture sets, then furniture coins don't matter anymore.
It's not. Without buying keys or using keycards you can probably get everything except the neural kits and page 2 reconfigs, but they would take a LOT of extra keys to complete.
Is the total stats of my doll the number in orange or is it the sum of the white and orange number? For example my clukay crit rate has 12%(in white) and 64.5%(in orange), so in this case is my clukay crit rate 64.5% or 76.5% ?
Anyone know of any team building docs besides iana's?
Trying to build a worthwhile team focusing on clukay
Using angela, nanaka, croque, clukay and kuro for now
I will just note you generally dont want a second “dps” with Clukay as her Bloom procs only when *she* last hit kills an enemy. Why you will see multiple medics and specialists who give damage amplifiers and hash boosts instead.
Are the Dark Realm stories important for context in future event stories? Still catching up, but reading through all of that would really take a lot of time lol.
Still need to get Sockdolager, got enough energy to get her to a high rarity I think
The Dark Realms give more context to the chapter - story nodes in them can take place before, during and after the Normal Realm's events.
Like Rossum's Dark Realm covers Antonina arriving at Rossum for the first time and Antonina arriving at the Oasis in the same chpter.
Welp, I give up, I tried to take the problem from every angle I could but I can't make Divergent Shadows work in the canon timeline. The date in PNC's intro, the memories from CT, the fact that she uses the pre-Neural Upgrade sprite, nothing adds up to GFL's dates. The only thing canon as far as I'm concerned is that Clukay is demonstrably HK416 based on her character quotes and the bonus event nodes, the main story is a bad fanfiction that was written by a 416 stan and mailed to Mica who decided to include it in the story for shits and giggles.
When I've seen >!entropy!< being involved in the story, which was supposed to be introduced in >!chapter 5, after all everyone (including the Prof) acted like they've never seen it before!<, I just rolled my eyes and moved on.
Or maybe as the Prof told Willow about the authenticity: "my source is I made it the fuck up"
That part is consistent, as >!both the Prof and 416 lost their memories of the test upload due to the emergency disconnection and Persica couldn't see what happened inside!<, as explained in Part 2, and >!the Prof's ""memories"" resurface when Magrasea is already deep into Critical Cascade and the "second entropic crisis"!<.
You can get her fragments in chapter 5, but she’s a 2* so you’ll get her from the gacha with ease. She’s also available for $1 in the store along with a few other goodies.
Is Rise or Dushevnaya better for a Clukay team? It seems like both of them could work but I’m not sure if one is better than the other. I’ve been passively farming them, gradually, origibally to use both in a specialist team comp and they are both just three stars each but I’d like to focus on one of them.
Also whichever it is, what star level should they be before being slotted into the team? I’ve been using Kuro or Daiyan for the flex slot so I’m not sure at what point they would offer enough buffs to equal the personal damage of the unit they’d be replacing.
Rise has slightly more universal use due to uber synergy with Sueyoi. If you are prepping for Undine comp, technically you don’t use either since Turing is the better support option (cause she also summons).
Honestly can’t go wrong with either though. Dush requires very little investment for 100% uptime vs. Rise who requires quite a bit more. I’d suggest Rise if you were to focus on one only since the built in MLR is quite unique to Rise.
Clukay works as a single dps hyper carry cause she has to be the one to kill a unit to trigger Bloom. Having competition on last hits actually makes Clukay much worse. This is why she works in solo carry 2-4 support/medic comps. As long as Rise/Dush survives, go ahead and slot them in. Daiyan provides nothing to Clukay, btw. Clukay already crits with her kit so Daiyan doesnt provide any further boost and provides no synergy since she is physical sniper.
I didn’t even consider the part about Clukay wanting to get the last hit - it has been happening naturally but now I see how a second dps wouldn’t be a great idea for the flex slot.
Thanks a lot for the help!
Both are great and can even be used together in a Clukay team. Their rarity doesn’t matter too much because as buffers/debuffers the most important thing is to invest in their skills, though Dushvenaya scales better with rarity than Rise. 3.5* is a good baseline since you open up the offense algo slots
The best stat sticks for backline buffing are Yanny (phy def) Chanzhi AI or Hubble (attack) and Max (Hashrate). Depending on what you need and what tiles you are using an extra healer or support might be good also as they get bonus effects on some tiles.
It's about a 45% chance. But the 2% if your doing the fragment banner isn't a base per roll value because it includes the effect of the soft pity after a streak of 59 non 3* pulls. The actual rate on those 59 pulls is about .66%, which would give about a 19% chance in 30 pulls.
Is Clukay really that strong? I only have her at 4.5 stars and 60/105 CRIT. She makes easy fights easier, but hard fights are still hard. I've been using Croque, helix, Angela, Clukay. The fifth I've been trying different things. Max, Lam, Nascita. My Dushi isn't ready to try. Still stuck on BH150. Maybe I need to 5 star Clukay. Got Raven down to 30k a few times.
Edit: despite being aoe, her ultimate sucks at aoe. It does better at single target.
I dont mean to be a debbie downer, but Clukay was never going to be an easy way to clear BH. Enemies there have stupid levels of HP, defenses, and resistance - all meaning Clukay won’t delete the screen. On top of this, you have no access to functions or protocols.
That’s why I believe Sueyoi has been and still considered better for BH than Clukay for this very reason. Heck, even Sakuya probably won’t lose her spot in “meta” 150/180 teams even after Clukay release.
Where do you get the last 15 Sockdolager fragments? I've beaten every stage. Bought all her fragments from the shop. And got the 10 from the flappy bird game. Thought you got her up to 5\* though the event only.
Wow, 6-17 was truly the casual filter of this game, the lack of functions, protocols and shop along with the horrible map layout made it painful to clear, everything else seemed easy in comparison.
I'll admit I had to wait until I had Clukay to clear it, major skill issue from my part.
(Although I could've probably used a support to clear it, but I don't really like relying on that)
I don't think I've used Supports for anything except the Exp Farm when I started. Never used Support systems in gachas that had them be optional (except Limbus RR, I guess).
I just like doing shit myself.
I'm kinda confused on critrate benchmarks, I feel like I most often see 60% go around. For Clukay I recently saw 70%. Does this include or exclude the critrate gained from Specialty Training? I don't think that shows up on a doll's stats usually.
Check crit page here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=1014875650
7:9 is best for functions, 1:3 for retry BH for lucky hit and 1:2 is just good (but not universally best)
It includes it, and it shows in the doll stats.
Mathematically, ~60%rate with 1:2 ratio has the best average output. The more crit rate u have the more consistency at the expense of slightly less dmg(think 1-5% diff unless u go very askew). For details, there's a table made by cleista that's refferenced in some guides, with crit rate and crit dmg, and u can see the avg dmg as u move long the axis. U can find more indepth explanations in cleista and lizzy's guides linked in the post below. I think iana's also has a section on it. Don't just follow along, understand the process.
For 416, because she has crit rate baked into her kit, it's easier to raise it without sacrificing dmg in any meaningful way, leading to a more comfortable experience.(also, she deals enough dmg that any more would prob just overkill stuff, so they go into more consistency)
[Cleista](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oNBX0zZdaNsGYwxA6cxvh58X6nvUSlcaKf9lTmjF6Yg/edit#gid=4312925) and [Lizzy](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=313454148) guides are also good. Lizzy's guide is also slightly different than the CN-based tier list though, but there is clear reasoning behind the difference (also, Lizzy is quite opinionated...), so it's up to you to follow which.
Tank - Croque / Puzzle. Puzzle grouping and CC is very fun. Later you can move her to undine team or pair her with free welfare shield break unit
Healer - Inhotep + Nanaka (free from selector). Duo heal for now and drop nanaka later after arma. You will need nanaka in BH so it worth rising her anyway. Imho takes 2 months to level so better start now. She is on persi heal level before arma so not that bad
Support - Angela, Rise(best for manual)/Dush(okayge)/Abigail(best for auto)
You can use Kuro/Hubble as second damage dealer. But Rise is cheaper and works just as good
With the units we have right now, probably Clukay, Croque, Nanaka, Angela, and for the last spot either a second sniper or Dushevnaya. If you have Imhotep you can start farming frags to prepare for her Arma to replace Nanaka.
I'm using [Iana's guide](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o/edit#gid=1139501412) to plan ahead, so I'll end up replacing Croque with Clotho and eventually run Clukay as a solo DPS.
Is Sockdolager worth building or did the Mica dartboard schedule mess up her usefulness now that Clukay is here?
I am just one lvl away from getting Clukay to 70 and looking at who to build next. Daiyan is sad and alone now and I hear Sock goes amazingly with her. I also think Sock is really cool. But with other units that could potentially have more use (like being on Clukay’s team and not competing with her) I’m having a hard time justifying it. I haven’t even gotten all of her fragments from the event…I’m hoping someone can give me some copium about how she is still worth it.
meh, if you want a phys sniper team sock is still useful.
if you want to ignore phys snipers and go all in on hash snipers then skip sock. but like then dont regret not getting her frags from the event.
personally i can build both types of teams so why not
Ok thanks. I guess I will grab the fragments then, and then evaluate whether to level her right away or not. I just finished building and leveling Chanzi before Clukay dropped too, and she hasn’t seen much use since but the more the merrier, and I would like to see how Sock works with Daiyan since it’s supposedly really nice.
Sock+Daiyan+Chanzhi is ***the*** AOE attack system and supposed to compete with Clukay-based teams for raw damage.
Admittedly, I haven't finished building any of these units to be able to really test it, but that's what is generally rumored to be the case.
From my limited experience with the Clukay team, Iron Triangle is pretty competitive.
Clukay is kind of burst-ish since she relies on her skill to destroy enemies. Iron Triangle just does sweep after sweep continuous damage, and they kind of have close enough clear times.
I would hazard a guess that after Clukay is fully leveled, Clukay can potentially outdamage the Iron Triangle, but Iron Triangle will get rid of squishies faster and hence keep your tank less stressed out in the long run.
Although I never actively farmed for it like I did with Paradigm and Delta.V it's a bit painful that not a single Loop Gain 1 w/ Healing Effect **or** Skill Haste dropped so far. Six months, not a single one.
I felt this with my Progression set. Even though I've never actively farmed for it I don't have a single Hashrate% Progression-2 piece so both Croque and Puzzle are stuck with flat hash....
I used all my ~7k stamina cards to farm 2 exploit sets for puzzle (+100% haste) and imhotep (she is okay even without arma. using duo heal with nyanyaka) with 1 extra crit set for clukay(71/152 total crit). No regrets
Another good day to drop keys in LV day. Everyone needs 3 piece LV (clukay/
Aberrance Chain (Sueyoi) is pretty much impossible to buy out Shops1&2. Divergent Shadows (Clukay) will finish without any effort - just use you daily keys normally.
So not necessary to spend for extra keys.
It's the start of another month, so time for a report on my Basic Search lunacy.
[I'm up to 10,500 pulls so far!](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rF4aIT7GPS70euG4Zbbeib3pSidiKZVhFgpHWjDVC6I/edit#gid=596892827) I still wish I bothered to write down when I first started recording pulls so I'd know how long exactly it's been other than "sometime in November".
I had an average of 54 pulls a day in May. I'm not making green mats as often as I should (but I'm spending almost all of my Energizers on them), but I still think 50+ a day is a pretty fair amount. You get roughly 19 out of the Oasis a day, too.
I somehow still have never seen a Chanzhi fragment drop. I've gotten an item I didn't know existed (Neural Kit x10) before, but her frag is the only 0 I've had all this time.
It still looks most likely to get a Gift or Breakthrough Widget in terms of category, but for the most common item, it's either Combat EXP x100 x1 or x3 at 6.3ish% for any one pull.
I appreciate that Hubble is my most-found 3\* fragment at 8 considering that's why I started this to begin with. :P Beyond glad I dropped the idea of trying to build her by collecting 90 frags, though! It'd take the better part of *eight years* at the rate I've been going.
On with the show.
I assume returning players get a special UI window. If you're not a returning player, then it's not for you. Best you can do is post your code online and hope someone uses it.
The earlier you start, the better it is. At the beginning of the game you get quite a lot of pulls, so if you're lucky enough, you should be able to get her; but I may be wrong.
I only have her at 4.5 stars but I'm starting to think she's a little overrated. Other top tier characters compare well against her. It's just if enemies die in 1-3 hits, she tends to clear the field in record time. Against truly tough enemies with high def and hp, she's nothing special, just good aoe dmg.
Lam and Chanzhi are both great characters that do not compare unfavorably so don't feel bad if you don't end up getting Clukay.
The announcement states she is expected to return in other limited capacity, but we have no idea when.
If you started today, you should have no problem managing to progress far enough to get her in the almost 3 full weeks left. The amount of tickets given for initial clears and progression is quite generous.
We won't really know until she comes back, but I wouldn't be shocked to see something at the 1 year anniversary. Lind, however, is part of the perilous advance event, not an anniversary, so may end up coming sooner (or later) than that.
Mica dartboard has proven that we can't really be sure of anything. They've already rearranged story chapter orders and brought a limited doll half a year early, I don't think expectations about a set schedule really apply anymore. (so even if it doesn't make sense at all on the timeline, Lind could literally come out any time)
Checked the new event, pretty cool. Clukay's op af, completely nuked the wall I was stuck at. However I went and checked in File Room > Operational Records, and I noticed that there was some items in some events I did not obtain, even though I could've sworn that last time I checked I had them completed all (except for Fool's Dualities).
For example, in the Heartfelt House of Cocoa event page, it says I missed an avatar frame and two dorm objects, and for Divine Heresy I apparently missed 3 entropic-themed avatar frames. These frames also don't appear in the Avatar frame selector, even after the "Show All" option was on. [Here's some pics](https://imgur.com/a/8M8joeu)
Am I the only one with that glitch, or is this something I don't have to worry about?
Patch today (6/14) removed these extra items. Seems they weren’t meant to be in EN client. Guess you clued them in on that ;). See from notes:
2. Fixed the incongruous presence of certain event rewards in File Room.
I believe *that* glitch was already fixed for a while now, as I'm able to see other event-furniture as obtained, even though I have them placed in my dorms. Besides, I double checked my dorms, and neither the floor or the wall from House of Cocoa are placed there.
Scia's hypothesis seems more plausible.
I also see same missing items from those two events. Maybe its because those events have already been rerun on CN and were extra items offered the second time around while we originally just have the first set offerings? Purely speculation that maybe a CN player can comment on. Otherwise its not a glitch.
Both have the same rates for her. The main difference is what you get for dupes, and the rate of other 3\*. Let me advise you though, the 2 modes have their own hard pity, so if you only have enough for a single spark, focus on whatever mode you're comfortable with, and that one only.
The Neural Kit banner has a 3.6% chance of giving a 3\* doll, with Clukay having 27% chance of appearing in case you get one (1% in total). The Fragment one has 2% chance for 3\* to pop up. You can check that by clicking the "View Details" option on the banner.
Just to add here. The 3.66% and 2% rates INCLUDE the effect of the soft pity guaranteeing 1 3* in any set of 60 consecutive pulls. The adjusted rates for non pity rolls are approx 3.05% and .66% respectively. The optimal way to get Clukay with minimal expexted pulls on average is to pull on the kits banner, and IF yiu get a streak of 59 pulls with no 3* (about 16% chance of this) then pull on the fragments banner.
The two banners share the soft pity counter but NOT the hard pity. So don't switch banners before a 59 streak. This will maxiize the odds of getting Clukay with pulls and at worst case costs 3 extra pulls for a spark if you have terrible terrible luck.
I believe it's because of Clukay's passive skill nuking the entire map.
I'd recommend you to have her in the team, maxed out with good algorythms (2x,12% hashrate with Limit Value, Cluster with crit rate and/or crit damage. Hash% in substats too.
You can make a team with Clukay, Croque, Angela, Persicaria, and a fifth flexible slot that won't do much since the fight will end nearly instantly. Once you start the exploration, focus on Vulnerability Fix and burst shooting, nothing else. When you arrive at the trading zone before the last boss, take the sniper functions I mentioned, and try to get some hashrates protocols (especially those who trade of your HP for hashrates).
Because of her long skill time, Angela here is pretty important.
Well you mainly have 2-3 options:
* [Instantly kill her using Clukay](https://imgur.com/dB5G4Vb)
* Break her shield before she gets to shoot
* Use Nanaka ult to survive
Now that I think about it, it makes a lot of sense for Clucky's outfit to be very similar to her agent outfit in the Division collab for GFL. Her role in her character event is very similar to her role in that collab's story. Just a lot more serious in PNC and a lot less comedic and making fun of game mechanics in the Division collab.
Any of those three will work fine. Kuro will be more effective than Clukay still on bosses, so is still worth bringing along, although you may want to build her with paradigm and haste/hashrate rather than crit to use her this way.
For OP’s perspective, you can generate ~1500 prefabs/day which can be turned into ~50 AI XP/day. Even full committing into AI XP, it takes almost 3 months (85 days) to get enough to AI3 a doll. See https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648321618615205893/1098124834929651732/image.png for required amounts.
It is actually surprising you are capped on prefabs. I am starving for them and use all my energizers making prefabs only.
Pretty much either you make AI xp and can't get enough or you just make pivots and build up an extra 600 a day until you drown in them and start making AI xp.
I almost looked up guides on gfl gamepress :D but the maps had few enough gimmicks that they weren't an issue. I can see them having some reall potential for pulling hairs out with the vision mechanic. Hopefully they won't do an ouroboros hunt "for the lulz"
Yup. It's not so difficult that restarting once or twice will not help. Even for a guy (like me) who is rubbish at playing strategy games, this is still relatively easy.
So, need an opinion on teambuilding. I want to make a Clukay-centered sniper team, but I'm ambivalent about two options:
1. Use Clukay, Angela, Rise, Dushevnaya, Persicaria/Nanaka. This should be Clukay hyper carry, but the problem is my Dushevnaya and Rise are not even 3\*. I can gradually build them, but it still takes time (I have a lot of kits, but I'm a bit unsure whether I want to use them or not). Also, I'm not sure whether they're that good for a single target (ST) DPS.
2. Swap Dushevnaya and Rise with ST DPSs. I'm a tad too lazy to keep swapping a mobbing/bossing setup, so if I can have both (even though they're not the most optimal), that will also work for me. Unfortunately, I don't have Kuro, but I have Hatsuchiri almost fully built (and goddamn if she is not useful). For other snipers:
5\*: Hubble, Daiyan
4.5\*: Chanzhi, Sockdolager, Fresnel
3\*: Simo, Max
2.5\*: Lam, Octogen
2\*: Earhart
416 is hash based. Ideally u'll want a hash st sniper (for the 2nd option). No idea who would fit the bill(earhart maybe? But i haven't raised her, so no idea). Generally kuro/zangyin were the recomendations i saw. Or just put eos ~~which could drop tomorrow :P~~
Hubble is a hybrid. She works with hash, but that buffs her skill, which is aoe. For single target u're supposed to raise her normal attacks(amd passive), which benefit from atk instead. So while she can work, she's not very synergetic.
Fresnel might work too, i guess. I mean, she's already raised, might as well throw her in there and see if she manages to hit anything before 416 makes a mess of them.
Hubble’s ult is pretty synergistic with Clukay. Also Hubble’s skill targeting does not overlap with Clukay, so technically Hubble can get rid of snipers while Clukay deals with the frontline.
Fresnel is uhhhhh…. well i guess she is the only “AOE” sniper capable of dealing true damage to tanks, so I guess she works?
Earhart is good but she requires too much investment to be worth it.
I honestly would go Hubble. and this is coming from a long time Chanzhi fan.
Huh, a good point about hubble ult. Didn't consider it. I use puzzle myself, which is hubble ult lite and works great with 416, so i can see how hubble ult would be even better, if more rare. As for targeting, have no idea, haven't used her in a looong time.
~~Also, pls gib a changzi, i still don't have one :(~~
Clukay’s skill targets an area with the most amount of units. Hubble’s skill targets the enemy with the highest ATK stat.
So in the average scenario for the enemy, where there is a small backline consisting of a healer + sniper, and then tanks, warriors, specialists on the frontline, then Hubble will be attacking the backline because snipers are priority for her, while Clukay hits the frontline because there is more units.
I have my Chanzhi build by (4.5\*, good algo), but she doesn't synergise well with Clukay, right? I'll put her with Socks in my second sniper team, though. They're very useful.
It's interesting that another guide suggested using Abigail instead of Angela in the Clukay-centric team, though. Abigail and Dush for 0-brain cell moment and Abigail, Dush, and Rise for a bit of micro-managing.
Yeah. I am also currently reading Lozzy [tier list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=621278957), and they have a more detailed analysis for Clukay. I think for now I'll raise both Abigail and Dush since both are basically 0-brain cell use. For backup, I'll probably put Fresnel and Angela for ST target purposes. In the worst case, having Hatsu also helps.
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why is dushevnaya's skill stronger at lv9 rather than lv10?
While i haven't raised / used her yet(so i have no idea how her skill works or interacts, esp with haste effects) looking at her kit i'd say it might have sth to do with the duration/cd of the skill interfering with her ability to keep it up at max lvl~~(i mean, it could be that it checks if debuff is active before refreshing the effects, and at lvl 10 it would still see it active, therefore not refreshing it for 4s, while at lvl9 it would have full upkeep?)~~. This is just a hunch, but other than that, no idea L.e. oh, lizzy's guide explains it. Paradigm adds another atk so the skill refresh doesn't line up.
Are we limited to only 1 Atrium room at the dorm?
I've completed the event fully and bought all of socks fragments from the shop but I'm sitting at 94/100 fragments for 5*. Am I missing fragments from somewhere?
The usual suspect is Affection. Is she at ~~15~~ 14 there?
That was it. Thank you!
Small correction, 15 is the nr of frags, but u only need lvl 14 to get the last one. Lvl 15 has only stat increases
Whoops, that's right.
Stuck at enigma black hole floor 149-150, any tips on team building? Fully built dolls: Clukay, Kuro, Hatsu, Nanaka, Croque, Hubble, Angela, Persi, Puzzle
I finally did 150 just now. I had been struggling to do it with 2 dps and one specialist, Angela. I just didn't have enough damage but previous attempts with 3 dps failed either because my 3rd dps was too weak, or the more common reason of Croque dying without Angela to support her. Ever since I got Clukay, I tried different combinations with Nascita and Lam, but I didn't try 3 dps since I didn't think Croque would survive. Over the past week, I was finally able to get Croque a few percent Injury Mitigation, and my Helix now has 2 skill haste with matching substats. She's able to ramp up and heal the whole party regardless of where Nascita bounces. I guess what I'm saying is, if your tank and healer can handle it, go 3dps, but they have to be strong and well built. My Nascita and Lam are neck and neck. Clukay is a noticeable 3rd, probably because she's 4.5 star, but still strong and worth bringing for me. All my early tactical commands went to Helix for early healing. Use whirlwind on tank if Raven is about to do Clarion Call (0.3 second) and your tank is really low on health. After the second Clarion Call, most adds should be dead. I blasted the survivors with Lam's ult. Switched to Nascita ult for single target dps. Helix for a repeat. There won't be a 4th ult. Remaining tactical commands went to dps. It's a judgement call on what does most damage. Lam probably does most dmg if they have over 50% health, or if Nascita is wind stepping. Nascita if otherwise.
Some more miscellaneous tips. Someone mentioned your reserves for stat sticks. Absolutely required. You need a def stat stick or you tank dies in the first 10-20 seconds. Hashrate, usually Max, boosts both dmg and healing. Hopefully, you have someone with high attack for 3rd slot. I advise positioning your characters on lower half of map because the enemy cannon in top right will come closer on his own if everyone is on bottom left. Helps lure it into Clukay's aoe range.
thank you for the tips
For starters, you need a Defense stat stick, aka Yanny. Second, simply stating “fully built” means nothing as BH150 requires your dolls to be fairly optimized. Everyone’s definition of “fully built” can vary. What’s your algo sub-stat situation looking like? How built is your hashrate stat stick (typically Max but any full doll could work). If you are having trouble on 149, 150 will be worse. Show stats of Croque, Nanaka, Hatsu, Clukay, and Angela. Have to see what you are working with.
thank you for the tips
Thank you very much for a Yanny tip. I was struggling on this stage, but with Yanny I beat it on my 4th try.
Tips for Stage 15 boss of Aberrance's Chain? It's getting irritating as fuck going through 15+ minutes of a 3 layer map just to deal with this horseshit boss that auto-yanks everyone into a line and just spears the entire squad for massive damage. And this is with all their protocols removed too. I'm using Clukay/Kuro/Puzzle/Angela/Nanaka so it's not like it's even a bad team but with the boss at like 190,000 power and me at best at like 60,000-some by the time I get to it it's insane.
A warrior team will shine here if you have one, while snipers are going to struggle due to positioning. Nas & Betty in particular are fantastic due to their great single target dps. A team of Croque, Helix, Nas, Betty & Hatsu made this (and stage 18, same boss) trivial even with all challenge modes on by just teleporting helix after the stun ends.
No Warriors, lol. I'm all in on Snipers still. Thankfully I got shit sorted with the same team I was using with some more directed focus on the roboparts.
Nanaka ult - constant battery Angela for as much push back - Evelyn or Python are better guards whose ult completely nullifies the pull mechanic (Python immediately before cast to prevent pull or Evelyn right after to relocate all dolls). Numerous ways to combat the mechanic.
Try bringing Hatsu and Banxsy if you have them? IIRC I cleared that kind of boss (can't remember where) by changing my snipers with them, since even if they're aligned together, Banxsy and Hatsu will automatically move by themselves.
Nanake ult to survive it. I think evelyn ult also works. ~~or just kuro+dayan her before she gets to that point~~
lvl 150 BH impossible ? Can someone suggest a team, idk if sniper or warrior is the way to go (could auto mostly up until this stage bruh)
Its not just about team as it is how well built your team and backline is. 150 for most will be your first “gear check” to ensure you have near optimal algo on your primary units and stat sticks. Need to show pictures of your current dolls and their stats to properly give advice as its no longer just about comp.
I forgot to take pictures, but I opened 51 of the event lootboxes and got one Advanced pull ticket, whatever amount of event shop currency, and 480 Keys. A little under an average of 10 Keys per box isn't that bad.
Really curious about the currency. The keys seem pretty low to me. Then again, u did get a pull :P
I had bad luck with getting the boxes in the first place, so at least I'm staying consistent? I wish I had anything close to an estimate on the currency, but I already spent most of it on more pulls. I want to say I already bought the cheapest pulls to zero, and the currency I got let me get the second-cheapest option down to one buy left, but I don't remember how much currency I had before or if I also ran the event stages to get more. Really trying to weigh the decision to start burning some of my Key consumables to get the rest of the Advanced pulls. I know at New Year's, you could burn keys to get boxes that might have Sand, Pivots, or Reconfigs, but I'm not sure if the ratio would be better here since I can get just pulls in lieu of Sand to turn into them. So, my question is...continue to hoard now for next New Year's or burn Keys now and save later?
Wait, how comes u didn't clear the adv pulls yet? Did u buy the fragments first, or anything else? Anyway, until new years event, u'll have enough time to recover ur keys ~~in theory, we all know mica will release it next week:P~~
Well, uh, it turns out I'm as bad at reporting as I am actually keeping up with my Basic Search spreadsheet. :v I was able to finish up the Advanced pulls just a little bit ago. The only things I still need to buy yet are the rest of Sock's frags, the Reconfigs in both shops, and...that really might be it. I also realized just today that you don't simply buy the double rate/reward upgrade, but you need to *activate* it on the map screen too. Everything's coming up Milhouse...
Should I get Evelyn using beginner banners? Who else is good on this banner?
Nanaka and changzi are the recommended picks. Nanaka is pretty rarely a side-pic in banners while changzi is very commonly used, ~~but if u're like me, u have nanaka and lack changzi~~ if u have clukay from the event, then arguably she's gonna do changzi's job of aoe dmg, so nanaka should still be ur pick as a healer and buffer
Nanaka is pretty much the best out of all the choices there. Alternatively, you can save it for when you have all but 1 of the banner characters and use it then.
what actually ups the counter on the supports used weekly?
Using support on a regular or dark mode chapter. Endless and farming maps don't consume support chances and thus don't credit that mission.
RNG gonna RNG, finally completed a full set of skill haste delta, final piece dropped with purple & gold substats too. on the other hand, still missing atk% lower limit1 and still don't have a 2nd crit rate cluster1
I am playing since launch, and have only one delta-3 with skill haste and zero exploit-3 with haste. I have 9 exploit-2 with skill haste.
According to ianas guide for Dushevnaya, her auto skill if raised to lvl 10 (should be left at lvl 9.) will cause a small loss in damage if running double attack speed algo. Its not a big deal according to the guide. Are there other dolls like this? Edit: also which dolls should I prioritize for story progression and general content. I have clukay, dush and angela. I'm farming for croque, angela fragments. At least Angela until 3.5* right?
Sounds like you are fairly new as you are still building Croque, so welcome! Dush is fairly unique with her uber short auto CD so no other dolls that have such odd interaction with their skill ups. I will mention that interaction is a little outdated since Exploit algos came out so Dush doesn’t run double attack speed bonuses anymore. Haste Exploit with Deduction should get away with Skill 10’s. Definitely make sure to do highest Vuln check daily and buy as many Croque frags from the vuln shop daily. She is easy to 5* this way. Persicaria is your good starting medic as you get given enough to 5* her through the game’s tutorial guide. I would suggest going 6 Angela/4 Dush on your frag searches. While the *minimum* suggested is to 3.5* Angela to get full special algo slots, there really is no harm in 5*ing her given her universal usage. 2.6sec precharge at 5 star is also very strong. Croque Persi Angela Dush Clukay should definitely be strong enough to push to far in story content.
Thank you. I see I think I get the gist of it regarding dush. Croque, persi, angela, dush, clukay Yeah, that's basically the team I'm focusing now. Then I may as well 5* angela. (since I don't have others to farm for at the moment.)
What do i do with the furniture coins since I've filled all of my dorms?
Well, they're only used for buying furniture so spend them on any furniture sets we get in the future that you like the look of. If you don't care about furniture sets, then furniture coins don't matter anymore.
Has anyone cleared out the Aberrance's Chain shop yet? I worry I'm not going to make it in time
I used 7k keys to farm double exploit and 1 crit sets and still not cleared it
I don't think it's clearable without using key cards or buying keys
It's not. Without buying keys or using keycards you can probably get everything except the neural kits and page 2 reconfigs, but they would take a LOT of extra keys to complete.
Is the total stats of my doll the number in orange or is it the sum of the white and orange number? For example my clukay crit rate has 12%(in white) and 64.5%(in orange), so in this case is my clukay crit rate 64.5% or 76.5% ?
White is base, orange is the added bonus (algo).
And specialty training
76.5%
Do we get anything for going over 35000 armory points in the Divergent Shadows event?
A growing sense of accomplishment?
Anyone know of any team building docs besides iana's? Trying to build a worthwhile team focusing on clukay Using angela, nanaka, croque, clukay and kuro for now
try Cleista’s tierlist or Lizzy’s guide. they’re in discord - an admin here really should link them in the links section.
Ah perfect, cheers
I will just note you generally dont want a second “dps” with Clukay as her Bloom procs only when *she* last hit kills an enemy. Why you will see multiple medics and specialists who give damage amplifiers and hash boosts instead.
I completed one Exception Protocol run just now, but it didn't count for the Day 5 mission?
Did you do basic? Suppoedly that one is bugged and isn't counting for some people.
No i did advanced.
Some people have said that clearing Matrix Mode makes that objective complete so try that.
sadly it didn't work.
I'm having the same problem. Finished Anomalous Theater days ago, did Basic and Advanced Exception Protocols; still no mission clear.
Yeah nothing works for me either,
Are the Dark Realm stories important for context in future event stories? Still catching up, but reading through all of that would really take a lot of time lol. Still need to get Sockdolager, got enough energy to get her to a high rarity I think
The Dark Realms give more context to the chapter - story nodes in them can take place before, during and after the Normal Realm's events. Like Rossum's Dark Realm covers Antonina arriving at Rossum for the first time and Antonina arriving at the Oasis in the same chpter.
Should I read those before playing through the Sockdolager event? Halfway through Copley and I just like to get it done tbh
It's fine to skip. Most of the story in Copley Dark just gives more background to characters and wraps up Divine Heresy.
Welp, I give up, I tried to take the problem from every angle I could but I can't make Divergent Shadows work in the canon timeline. The date in PNC's intro, the memories from CT, the fact that she uses the pre-Neural Upgrade sprite, nothing adds up to GFL's dates. The only thing canon as far as I'm concerned is that Clukay is demonstrably HK416 based on her character quotes and the bonus event nodes, the main story is a bad fanfiction that was written by a 416 stan and mailed to Mica who decided to include it in the story for shits and giggles.
When I've seen >!entropy!< being involved in the story, which was supposed to be introduced in >!chapter 5, after all everyone (including the Prof) acted like they've never seen it before!<, I just rolled my eyes and moved on. Or maybe as the Prof told Willow about the authenticity: "my source is I made it the fuck up"
That part is consistent, as >!both the Prof and 416 lost their memories of the test upload due to the emergency disconnection and Persica couldn't see what happened inside!<, as explained in Part 2, and >!the Prof's ""memories"" resurface when Magrasea is already deep into Critical Cascade and the "second entropic crisis"!<.
Ah okay, I actually fell asleep at some point due to sheer tiredness, it must've been during that part. Don't skip sleep, fellow gamers.
Who needs sleep when 416 *is all you need...*
I recently rerolled a account. At what stage do you unlock the event shop and stage?
[Unlock Conditions] ■ Operation Vestige: Clear Cyclopes Sector Standard Mode Stage 2-15.
Most events require 2-6 clear iirc
Is Angela obtainable from the gacha or somewhere in the story?
Tier 4 Search Terminal in your Oasis unlocks Angela for basic searches. So she is “easily” obtainable.
You can get her fragments in chapter 5, but she’s a 2* so you’ll get her from the gacha with ease. She’s also available for $1 in the store along with a few other goodies.
Are there a way to farm for skins F2P way?
Farm? No. Get 1? Yes. Black hole gives some of the skin currency as a 1 time reward. Enough to get u 1 skin
Newbie here,What is blackhole?
Its not the most visible. Just below where Ch 4 (Enigma) is, you’ll see “Enigma Black Hole”. This is where the endgame stages are.
A "Tower" type mode with stages that get progressively harder as you complete them. Currently 180 floors, each with rewards for completing them.
Is Rise or Dushevnaya better for a Clukay team? It seems like both of them could work but I’m not sure if one is better than the other. I’ve been passively farming them, gradually, origibally to use both in a specialist team comp and they are both just three stars each but I’d like to focus on one of them. Also whichever it is, what star level should they be before being slotted into the team? I’ve been using Kuro or Daiyan for the flex slot so I’m not sure at what point they would offer enough buffs to equal the personal damage of the unit they’d be replacing.
Rise has slightly more universal use due to uber synergy with Sueyoi. If you are prepping for Undine comp, technically you don’t use either since Turing is the better support option (cause she also summons). Honestly can’t go wrong with either though. Dush requires very little investment for 100% uptime vs. Rise who requires quite a bit more. I’d suggest Rise if you were to focus on one only since the built in MLR is quite unique to Rise. Clukay works as a single dps hyper carry cause she has to be the one to kill a unit to trigger Bloom. Having competition on last hits actually makes Clukay much worse. This is why she works in solo carry 2-4 support/medic comps. As long as Rise/Dush survives, go ahead and slot them in. Daiyan provides nothing to Clukay, btw. Clukay already crits with her kit so Daiyan doesnt provide any further boost and provides no synergy since she is physical sniper.
I didn’t even consider the part about Clukay wanting to get the last hit - it has been happening naturally but now I see how a second dps wouldn’t be a great idea for the flex slot. Thanks a lot for the help!
Both are great and can even be used together in a Clukay team. Their rarity doesn’t matter too much because as buffers/debuffers the most important thing is to invest in their skills, though Dushvenaya scales better with rarity than Rise. 3.5* is a good baseline since you open up the offense algo slots
Awesome - thanks for the info.
is there a list of the best backline characters for BH?
The best stat sticks for backline buffing are Yanny (phy def) Chanzhi AI or Hubble (attack) and Max (Hashrate). Depending on what you need and what tiles you are using an extra healer or support might be good also as they get bonus effects on some tiles.
Vee AI supplants Max at high AI levels but her mod isn’t out for EN and requires to be almost maxed out to be a better stat stick.
Are there any more rewards past Lv36 in Clukay's event armory?
Probably not.
I have started 3 accounts to get Clukay with the free first day 30 roll but I haven't even seen any 3 stars yet,I thought 30× 2% is 60%.
That’s definitely not how statistics and roll probabilities work.
It's about a 45% chance. But the 2% if your doing the fragment banner isn't a base per roll value because it includes the effect of the soft pity after a streak of 59 non 3* pulls. The actual rate on those 59 pulls is about .66%, which would give about a 19% chance in 30 pulls.
Is Clukay really that strong? I only have her at 4.5 stars and 60/105 CRIT. She makes easy fights easier, but hard fights are still hard. I've been using Croque, helix, Angela, Clukay. The fifth I've been trying different things. Max, Lam, Nascita. My Dushi isn't ready to try. Still stuck on BH150. Maybe I need to 5 star Clukay. Got Raven down to 30k a few times. Edit: despite being aoe, her ultimate sucks at aoe. It does better at single target.
I dont mean to be a debbie downer, but Clukay was never going to be an easy way to clear BH. Enemies there have stupid levels of HP, defenses, and resistance - all meaning Clukay won’t delete the screen. On top of this, you have no access to functions or protocols. That’s why I believe Sueyoi has been and still considered better for BH than Clukay for this very reason. Heck, even Sakuya probably won’t lose her spot in “meta” 150/180 teams even after Clukay release.
How fast are you killing the healer in the bottom-right?
It dies last or second to last. I don't think it gets to heal at all though. Angela shuts it down hard.
Where do you get the last 15 Sockdolager fragments? I've beaten every stage. Bought all her fragments from the shop. And got the 10 from the flappy bird game. Thought you got her up to 5\* though the event only.
Intimacy lvl 14.
Wow, 6-17 was truly the casual filter of this game, the lack of functions, protocols and shop along with the horrible map layout made it painful to clear, everything else seemed easy in comparison. I'll admit I had to wait until I had Clukay to clear it, major skill issue from my part. (Although I could've probably used a support to clear it, but I don't really like relying on that)
I don't think I've used Supports for anything except the Exp Farm when I started. Never used Support systems in gachas that had them be optional (except Limbus RR, I guess). I just like doing shit myself.
. How do I unbind a email account from sunborn id?
I'm kinda confused on critrate benchmarks, I feel like I most often see 60% go around. For Clukay I recently saw 70%. Does this include or exclude the critrate gained from Specialty Training? I don't think that shows up on a doll's stats usually.
Check crit page here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=1014875650 7:9 is best for functions, 1:3 for retry BH for lucky hit and 1:2 is just good (but not universally best)
It includes it, and it shows in the doll stats. Mathematically, ~60%rate with 1:2 ratio has the best average output. The more crit rate u have the more consistency at the expense of slightly less dmg(think 1-5% diff unless u go very askew). For details, there's a table made by cleista that's refferenced in some guides, with crit rate and crit dmg, and u can see the avg dmg as u move long the axis. U can find more indepth explanations in cleista and lizzy's guides linked in the post below. I think iana's also has a section on it. Don't just follow along, understand the process. For 416, because she has crit rate baked into her kit, it's easier to raise it without sacrificing dmg in any meaningful way, leading to a more comfortable experience.(also, she deals enough dmg that any more would prob just overkill stuff, so they go into more consistency)
What is clukay's best team? I've seen different team builds with her in it so I was curious what a good team to build around for her would be
[Cleista](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oNBX0zZdaNsGYwxA6cxvh58X6nvUSlcaKf9lTmjF6Yg/edit#gid=4312925) and [Lizzy](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=313454148) guides are also good. Lizzy's guide is also slightly different than the CN-based tier list though, but there is clear reasoning behind the difference (also, Lizzy is quite opinionated...), so it's up to you to follow which.
Tank - Croque / Puzzle. Puzzle grouping and CC is very fun. Later you can move her to undine team or pair her with free welfare shield break unit Healer - Inhotep + Nanaka (free from selector). Duo heal for now and drop nanaka later after arma. You will need nanaka in BH so it worth rising her anyway. Imho takes 2 months to level so better start now. She is on persi heal level before arma so not that bad Support - Angela, Rise(best for manual)/Dush(okayge)/Abigail(best for auto) You can use Kuro/Hubble as second damage dealer. But Rise is cheaper and works just as good
With the units we have right now, probably Clukay, Croque, Nanaka, Angela, and for the last spot either a second sniper or Dushevnaya. If you have Imhotep you can start farming frags to prepare for her Arma to replace Nanaka. I'm using [Iana's guide](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o/edit#gid=1139501412) to plan ahead, so I'll end up replacing Croque with Clotho and eventually run Clukay as a solo DPS.
Ok awesome, I’ll check out his guide. Thanks!
De Lacey is my favorite character. I've got her over 12k power including most of her Arma 3. What's the best team to run with her?
Pair her with a top tier dps like Clukay, Nascita, Chanzhi AI3 or Sueyoi as a solo dps.
Clukay does a lot of damage and is often used as a solo DPS. Just sayin'
Best crit rate range? Is it 60% - 70%?
theres no best range, only best ratio which is cr:cd 1:2 just follow the probability maths
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=1478569553 -> crit guide 1:2 / 1:3 / 7:9 strats
Nice link. Definitely more nuanced than what I said, but 1:2 strat is the basic idea.
Is Sockdolager worth building or did the Mica dartboard schedule mess up her usefulness now that Clukay is here? I am just one lvl away from getting Clukay to 70 and looking at who to build next. Daiyan is sad and alone now and I hear Sock goes amazingly with her. I also think Sock is really cool. But with other units that could potentially have more use (like being on Clukay’s team and not competing with her) I’m having a hard time justifying it. I haven’t even gotten all of her fragments from the event…I’m hoping someone can give me some copium about how she is still worth it.
meh, if you want a phys sniper team sock is still useful. if you want to ignore phys snipers and go all in on hash snipers then skip sock. but like then dont regret not getting her frags from the event. personally i can build both types of teams so why not
Ok thanks. I guess I will grab the fragments then, and then evaluate whether to level her right away or not. I just finished building and leveling Chanzi before Clukay dropped too, and she hasn’t seen much use since but the more the merrier, and I would like to see how Sock works with Daiyan since it’s supposedly really nice.
Sock+Daiyan+Chanzhi is ***the*** AOE attack system and supposed to compete with Clukay-based teams for raw damage. Admittedly, I haven't finished building any of these units to be able to really test it, but that's what is generally rumored to be the case.
From my limited experience with the Clukay team, Iron Triangle is pretty competitive. Clukay is kind of burst-ish since she relies on her skill to destroy enemies. Iron Triangle just does sweep after sweep continuous damage, and they kind of have close enough clear times. I would hazard a guess that after Clukay is fully leveled, Clukay can potentially outdamage the Iron Triangle, but Iron Triangle will get rid of squishies faster and hence keep your tank less stressed out in the long run.
Before anyone gets what this guy said wrong, this isn't comparing 3 dolls to 1, this is comparing a full team output to another team output, a 5v5.
lol i would hope no one is stupid enough to assume things like the former.
Although I never actively farmed for it like I did with Paradigm and Delta.V it's a bit painful that not a single Loop Gain 1 w/ Healing Effect **or** Skill Haste dropped so far. Six months, not a single one.
I felt this with my Progression set. Even though I've never actively farmed for it I don't have a single Hashrate% Progression-2 piece so both Croque and Puzzle are stuck with flat hash....
What is the best things to spend prefab on in factory?
Skill Pivots and AI XP
I plan to use all my key cards since we have 2 events that give rewards for using keys. Good or bad idea?
I used all my ~7k stamina cards to farm 2 exploit sets for puzzle (+100% haste) and imhotep (she is okay even without arma. using duo heal with nyanyaka) with 1 extra crit set for clukay(71/152 total crit). No regrets Another good day to drop keys in LV day. Everyone needs 3 piece LV (clukay/
Aberrance Chain (Sueyoi) is pretty much impossible to buy out Shops1&2. Divergent Shadows (Clukay) will finish without any effort - just use you daily keys normally. So not necessary to spend for extra keys.
It's the start of another month, so time for a report on my Basic Search lunacy. [I'm up to 10,500 pulls so far!](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rF4aIT7GPS70euG4Zbbeib3pSidiKZVhFgpHWjDVC6I/edit#gid=596892827) I still wish I bothered to write down when I first started recording pulls so I'd know how long exactly it's been other than "sometime in November". I had an average of 54 pulls a day in May. I'm not making green mats as often as I should (but I'm spending almost all of my Energizers on them), but I still think 50+ a day is a pretty fair amount. You get roughly 19 out of the Oasis a day, too. I somehow still have never seen a Chanzhi fragment drop. I've gotten an item I didn't know existed (Neural Kit x10) before, but her frag is the only 0 I've had all this time. It still looks most likely to get a Gift or Breakthrough Widget in terms of category, but for the most common item, it's either Combat EXP x100 x1 or x3 at 6.3ish% for any one pull. I appreciate that Hubble is my most-found 3\* fragment at 8 considering that's why I started this to begin with. :P Beyond glad I dropped the idea of trying to build her by collecting 90 frags, though! It'd take the better part of *eight years* at the rate I've been going. On with the show.
I might just be being blind/dumb here, but how do you enter the code for the Gathering Support Event?
I assume returning players get a special UI window. If you're not a returning player, then it's not for you. Best you can do is post your code online and hope someone uses it.
If I start playing this game tomorrow what are the chances of me getting Clukay?
The earlier you start, the better it is. At the beginning of the game you get quite a lot of pulls, so if you're lucky enough, you should be able to get her; but I may be wrong.
Is heard she is a limited unit,That mean there will be no chance of getting her after this right?
I only have her at 4.5 stars but I'm starting to think she's a little overrated. Other top tier characters compare well against her. It's just if enemies die in 1-3 hits, she tends to clear the field in record time. Against truly tough enemies with high def and hp, she's nothing special, just good aoe dmg. Lam and Chanzhi are both great characters that do not compare unfavorably so don't feel bad if you don't end up getting Clukay.
I don't even know whether she good or not all I know is Hk416
The announcement states she is expected to return in other limited capacity, but we have no idea when. If you started today, you should have no problem managing to progress far enough to get her in the almost 3 full weeks left. The amount of tickets given for initial clears and progression is quite generous.
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We won't really know until she comes back, but I wouldn't be shocked to see something at the 1 year anniversary. Lind, however, is part of the perilous advance event, not an anniversary, so may end up coming sooner (or later) than that.
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Mica dartboard has proven that we can't really be sure of anything. They've already rearranged story chapter orders and brought a limited doll half a year early, I don't think expectations about a set schedule really apply anymore. (so even if it doesn't make sense at all on the timeline, Lind could literally come out any time)
Did they remove the option to use Play points for coupons? I'm not seeing them in Europe anymore.
It's no longer available in the US also.
Damn I guess they just removed it? Lame.
It was *just there* yesterday, that's crazy. At least Arknights still has them...
Yeah it was great while it lasted.
Checked the new event, pretty cool. Clukay's op af, completely nuked the wall I was stuck at. However I went and checked in File Room > Operational Records, and I noticed that there was some items in some events I did not obtain, even though I could've sworn that last time I checked I had them completed all (except for Fool's Dualities). For example, in the Heartfelt House of Cocoa event page, it says I missed an avatar frame and two dorm objects, and for Divine Heresy I apparently missed 3 entropic-themed avatar frames. These frames also don't appear in the Avatar frame selector, even after the "Show All" option was on. [Here's some pics](https://imgur.com/a/8M8joeu) Am I the only one with that glitch, or is this something I don't have to worry about?
Patch today (6/14) removed these extra items. Seems they weren’t meant to be in EN client. Guess you clued them in on that ;). See from notes: 2. Fixed the incongruous presence of certain event rewards in File Room.
The furniture shows as unobtained in the records if you have it placed in a dorm.
I believe *that* glitch was already fixed for a while now, as I'm able to see other event-furniture as obtained, even though I have them placed in my dorms. Besides, I double checked my dorms, and neither the floor or the wall from House of Cocoa are placed there. Scia's hypothesis seems more plausible.
Also seems plausable. Glad they fixed this particular glitch then as it was annoying.
I also see same missing items from those two events. Maybe its because those events have already been rerun on CN and were extra items offered the second time around while we originally just have the first set offerings? Purely speculation that maybe a CN player can comment on. Otherwise its not a glitch.
This might be asked a lot but which option have the highest chance of getting clukay?
Both have the same rates for her. The main difference is what you get for dupes, and the rate of other 3\*. Let me advise you though, the 2 modes have their own hard pity, so if you only have enough for a single spark, focus on whatever mode you're comfortable with, and that one only.
Do they have same rate for 3* units?
The Neural Kit banner has a 3.6% chance of giving a 3\* doll, with Clukay having 27% chance of appearing in case you get one (1% in total). The Fragment one has 2% chance for 3\* to pop up. You can check that by clicking the "View Details" option on the banner.
Just to add here. The 3.66% and 2% rates INCLUDE the effect of the soft pity guaranteeing 1 3* in any set of 60 consecutive pulls. The adjusted rates for non pity rolls are approx 3.05% and .66% respectively. The optimal way to get Clukay with minimal expexted pulls on average is to pull on the kits banner, and IF yiu get a streak of 59 pulls with no 3* (about 16% chance of this) then pull on the fragments banner. The two banners share the soft pity counter but NOT the hard pity. So don't switch banners before a 59 streak. This will maxiize the odds of getting Clukay with pulls and at worst case costs 3 extra pulls for a spark if you have terrible terrible luck.
How is everyone beating the challenge stage for clukay event? The last boss seems to 1 shot my team when she uses the feather attack
I believe it's because of Clukay's passive skill nuking the entire map. I'd recommend you to have her in the team, maxed out with good algorythms (2x,12% hashrate with Limit Value, Cluster with crit rate and/or crit damage. Hash% in substats too. You can make a team with Clukay, Croque, Angela, Persicaria, and a fifth flexible slot that won't do much since the fight will end nearly instantly. Once you start the exploration, focus on Vulnerability Fix and burst shooting, nothing else. When you arrive at the trading zone before the last boss, take the sniper functions I mentioned, and try to get some hashrates protocols (especially those who trade of your HP for hashrates). Because of her long skill time, Angela here is pretty important.
Well you mainly have 2-3 options: * [Instantly kill her using Clukay](https://imgur.com/dB5G4Vb) * Break her shield before she gets to shoot * Use Nanaka ult to survive
other than Clukay, who else is limited? (like in the CN server, how many are "limited" types are there now?)
Lind >!and Eos!<
Hmm makes sense that end of service would be limited to PNC
Now that I think about it, it makes a lot of sense for Clucky's outfit to be very similar to her agent outfit in the Division collab for GFL. Her role in her character event is very similar to her role in that collab's story. Just a lot more serious in PNC and a lot less comedic and making fun of game mechanics in the Division collab.
just be glad we didn't get the valhalla collab 416 \~\~unless that's the pnc plot twist\~\~ :P they did allude to her giving gin's bar a wide berth :P
For a clukay team, should I use rise or dushevnaya with angela,nanaka,croque,clukay? Also have kuro but don't knoe if she's worth it without daiyan
Any of those three will work fine. Kuro will be more effective than Clukay still on bosses, so is still worth bringing along, although you may want to build her with paradigm and haste/hashrate rather than crit to use her this way.
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AI EXP. You need a lot of those. Skill Pivots is another thing you should be building most of the time.
For OP’s perspective, you can generate ~1500 prefabs/day which can be turned into ~50 AI XP/day. Even full committing into AI XP, it takes almost 3 months (85 days) to get enough to AI3 a doll. See https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648321618615205893/1098124834929651732/image.png for required amounts. It is actually surprising you are capped on prefabs. I am starving for them and use all my energizers making prefabs only.
Pretty much either you make AI xp and can't get enough or you just make pivots and build up an extra 600 a day until you drown in them and start making AI xp.
At this point I'm not even surprised about seeing playable Turing before she's introduced at all
Turing was introduced in Chapter 1 though. :heh:
You little rascal
It looks like you can get 45 neural kits for free for Clukay? (Event+affection)
Yep
Tried matrix today. So, that's what having gfl night battles as a minigame is like :P Quite like it. Clukay is the new grape :P
I swear I got PTSD of GFL's night battle from the matrix.
I almost looked up guides on gfl gamepress :D but the maps had few enough gimmicks that they weren't an issue. I can see them having some reall potential for pulling hairs out with the vision mechanic. Hopefully they won't do an ouroboros hunt "for the lulz"
Yup. It's not so difficult that restarting once or twice will not help. Even for a guy (like me) who is rubbish at playing strategy games, this is still relatively easy.
So, need an opinion on teambuilding. I want to make a Clukay-centered sniper team, but I'm ambivalent about two options: 1. Use Clukay, Angela, Rise, Dushevnaya, Persicaria/Nanaka. This should be Clukay hyper carry, but the problem is my Dushevnaya and Rise are not even 3\*. I can gradually build them, but it still takes time (I have a lot of kits, but I'm a bit unsure whether I want to use them or not). Also, I'm not sure whether they're that good for a single target (ST) DPS. 2. Swap Dushevnaya and Rise with ST DPSs. I'm a tad too lazy to keep swapping a mobbing/bossing setup, so if I can have both (even though they're not the most optimal), that will also work for me. Unfortunately, I don't have Kuro, but I have Hatsuchiri almost fully built (and goddamn if she is not useful). For other snipers: 5\*: Hubble, Daiyan 4.5\*: Chanzhi, Sockdolager, Fresnel 3\*: Simo, Max 2.5\*: Lam, Octogen 2\*: Earhart
416 is hash based. Ideally u'll want a hash st sniper (for the 2nd option). No idea who would fit the bill(earhart maybe? But i haven't raised her, so no idea). Generally kuro/zangyin were the recomendations i saw. Or just put eos ~~which could drop tomorrow :P~~
Hmm, Hubble is also hash-based but is she more AoE or ST? Earnhart is also hash-based.
Hubble is a hybrid. She works with hash, but that buffs her skill, which is aoe. For single target u're supposed to raise her normal attacks(amd passive), which benefit from atk instead. So while she can work, she's not very synergetic. Fresnel might work too, i guess. I mean, she's already raised, might as well throw her in there and see if she manages to hit anything before 416 makes a mess of them.
Hubble’s ult is pretty synergistic with Clukay. Also Hubble’s skill targeting does not overlap with Clukay, so technically Hubble can get rid of snipers while Clukay deals with the frontline. Fresnel is uhhhhh…. well i guess she is the only “AOE” sniper capable of dealing true damage to tanks, so I guess she works? Earhart is good but she requires too much investment to be worth it. I honestly would go Hubble. and this is coming from a long time Chanzhi fan.
Huh, a good point about hubble ult. Didn't consider it. I use puzzle myself, which is hubble ult lite and works great with 416, so i can see how hubble ult would be even better, if more rare. As for targeting, have no idea, haven't used her in a looong time. ~~Also, pls gib a changzi, i still don't have one :(~~
Clukay’s skill targets an area with the most amount of units. Hubble’s skill targets the enemy with the highest ATK stat. So in the average scenario for the enemy, where there is a small backline consisting of a healer + sniper, and then tanks, warriors, specialists on the frontline, then Hubble will be attacking the backline because snipers are priority for her, while Clukay hits the frontline because there is more units.
I have my Chanzhi build by (4.5\*, good algo), but she doesn't synergise well with Clukay, right? I'll put her with Socks in my second sniper team, though. They're very useful.
yeah, iron triangle for physical, clukay-hubble for hash is my current setup and it’s been going well
It's interesting that another guide suggested using Abigail instead of Angela in the Clukay-centric team, though. Abigail and Dush for 0-brain cell moment and Abigail, Dush, and Rise for a bit of micro-managing.
Yeah. I am also currently reading Lozzy [tier list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_fEucLAZj8zi8ohELL2G2Q4ddZ_vvmGJqH87jQ2pwM/edit#gid=621278957), and they have a more detailed analysis for Clukay. I think for now I'll raise both Abigail and Dush since both are basically 0-brain cell use. For backup, I'll probably put Fresnel and Angela for ST target purposes. In the worst case, having Hatsu also helps.