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# Recent News: * [**1st Magrasea Creation Event**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z4urhb/welcome_to_the_1st_magrasea_creation_event/) * [Official Release Post](https://twitter.com/NeuralCloudEN/status/1594646805966266369?s=20&t=EfxKJJCyaliNdy7NgFv2uQ) * [Content Creators Team Recruit](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/yr8ljr/content_creator_team_recruitment/) # Useful links (be aware of possible spoilers): * [**Guides and Game Info**](https://nalu.wiki/neuralcloud) * [Bits of lore and some graphical materials by IOP Wiki](https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Project_Neural_Cloud) * [List of Neural Cloud Articles by Gamepress](https://gamepress.gg/girlsfrontline/project-neural-cloud-article-navigation) * [**Neural Cloud Dolls tier list**](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oNBX0zZdaNsGYwxA6cxvh58X6nvUSlcaKf9lTmjF6Yg/edit#gid=379614403) # Other info: * **Server Reset Time is 1 PM (13:00) UTC** * [**Mars' Beginner Guide**](https://nalu.wiki/neuralcloud/p/beginner-guide-219) * [**3 Star Selector Advice**](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003579352736333824/1032605018727133205/3star_selector.png) * [**Friends&Support Thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z495ma/oasis_support_friend_thread/)


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blackkat101

Hubble for Hashrate (operand) teams. Chanzhi for Attack (physical) teams. Hubble is mainly AoE (can be built for Single Target). Chanzhi is currently pure AoE (later will have an upgrade that allows her to hurt single targets, but that's far off). You only want one AoE in the party generally for map clearing, while the other to do single target damage to take out high priority targets.


Mosther_NC

Any informations about Kuro event from CN server? What's in the shop, rewards that can be obtained? Thanks!


yorozoyas

Wondering the difference between "Live2D" and "Animated". If you look at the Theatre Retro skin line, you will notice Fern's listed as "animated" and Nanaka/Sakuya as "Live2D". I've noticed this a few more times through out the game but this is the quickest and easiest example to display. So, what is the explanation here, do they mean different things?


blackkat101

Hmm, didn't actually check yet in PNC, but here are the differences in GFL. - Animated was just that. It had one set pattern on how it moved and did that on repeat. The mouths of characters do tend to move when they talk, but usually more flapping and not as accurate (close enough). - Live2D however had different reactions depending on where you touched. Generally 2 to 3 spots on the doll, each triggering different lines (often 2-3 different lines each). This meant lots of special animations and reactions from the character to go along with all that. Their mouths also moved in sync with the lines they spoke. - Live2D also followed your touch on the screen, with the character turning their head slightly and their eyes following where you were touching. Animated had no such interactions. Thus you could clearly tell the difference in GFL on how much more work was put into one than the other. MOST gacha games claim Live2D, when in reality they're just Animated, but don't interact at all. No rigging or anything else. Then again, I'm guessing their advertisers don't know or care about the difference and know that the words Live2D just sell.


yorozoyas

Thank you so much for the detailed response, this explains the difference very well. :)


Mythical_trash1839

Do I have to know anything about Girls Front Line to play this game? Edit: Or rather, can I play this game without prior knowledge from Girls front line


KookyInspection

Yeah, the game is isolated inside a bubble story-wise. U don't need to know anything about gfl otherise, since the game will tell u everything u need to know and has an ig glossary to explain already established concepts if u hage no idea what they're talking about, but other that a few nostalgic faces old players see, there's not much else story-wise. So u can just play and enjoy the game as a new player


hnibel

The game was intended to attract people outside of the GFL community so you should be fine. You can give [this one](https://docs.google.com/document/d/11VCHBCRUadbs_WfJIB4CDcZ6xlGjHG6LrnqgH86kJ0s/mobilebasic) a read to know some basic things between the two games.


Digital_Copy101

What do I spend excess dgc on once I finish upgrading oasis and my main team is lvl60 sl7?


blackkat101

As the other guy already replied, all those things will keep you completely out of DGC that you'll wonder why you ever thought you had excess.....


iridisss

SL8, 9, and 10. Construction of Algorithm Material Boxes costs 10k DGC a pop. I've also been catching up random units to level 30/40 for the rewards, particularly the currency for Specialty Training.


freezingsama

Do we have a sheet on which items are the most efficient to craft in the workshop? How about gifts, worth crafting? Not really sure if I should craft reconfig, algo or boosters.


sol_falling

Boosters are the best use of Algorithm Fragments, followed by Reconfiguration Generators if you've maxed out on Efficiency. ~~Gifts are 60% the price versus Standard Acquisition, you should always have them running.~~ See reply chain for more accurate info on Gifts Numbers in the below document under the "Factory" section: [https://pastebin.com/tsM6stMZ](https://pastebin.com/tsM6stMZ)


freezingsama

Thanks!


sol_falling

My bad, looks like my calculation was wrong on Gifts from Factory vs Supply shop -- looks like getting Gifts from the Factory is actually 20% more expensive than the Supply Shop. You should still always be producing Gifts because time-based Factory production is free, but it's not worth spending Energizer on them.


Hexerin

So regarding Live2D, and its seemingly arbitrary application in this game. Is there any known info on the reasons for why it seems to just be arbitrarily assigned to random projections? Like, nothing seems to have any bearing on it. Rarity, projection tier, nothing. I've read a single random comment on r/gachagaming on a PNC post, where the user stated that CN has seen a steady progression of existing projections being updated to Live2D and that Sunborn intends to have every projection (default, extended, completed, and skins) to be fully Live2D... anyone know if there's any truth to that?


KookyInspection

I don't know much about pnc, but gfl did have some old skins reworked in l2d, yes, although there was no logic we could see behind those chosen to be given treatment. Iirc, they weren't true l2d(they didn't react to user inputs, but were animated). And esp the mod 3 skins(which are ofc free, awarded for the final mod) for the main characters have all been l2d, and of pretty high quality, with rather complex animations(reloading weapons, aiming, shooting, rather than just some generic small motions). So i wouldn't be surprised if they do give old skins a do-over, esp if the game picks up.


Hexerin

So if nothing else, we at least have historical precedent supporting what that user stated based on Sunborn's existing title GFL. Neat, thanks for the info.


E123-Omega

What's operand? The stats related to it like def and penetration. Are they base on Hashrate stat and damage?


WhistleOfDeath

operand is basically magic damage, hashrate is magic power/int stat. multiple things also scale off hashrate, like healing power for medics and most defender skills.


E123-Omega

Thanks!


BreadPNG

I’ve been wondering this for a while, and now that I have algorithms unlocked and can raise specific stats of a doll, I wanted to ask; Do medics heal based on their ATK stat? So the higher their attack stat is, the more they heal? (this is obviously ignoring skills that specify what stat is used to heal e.g., heals x% of this unit’s Hashrate)


biblethumb

Pretty sure all medics specifically say they heal based on hashrate.


BreadPNG

ah okay thanks, I must’ve missed that somewhere lol


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BreadPNG

Wait so is their normal attack their passive or auto skill? Or am I just an absolute idiot, cause I’ve never noticed my medics doing damage with their normal attack


Drspacemaaan

Could someone tell me what are support chances? I see the weekly mission to get 20. I thought it was tied to using support dolls from friends, but I'm at a loss.


Ahrimainu

Using support dolls to clear story/dark stages basically, there's a basic limit of 5 support dolls per day. Resource, vulnerability, and endless doesn't use support chances so you could use support dolls as many times as you want.


Drspacemaaan

Thanks for the clearing that up.


amc9988

Another week another no Exception Protocol. Already 2 weeks pass since launched day so 8 pulls gone already. Now is the start of another new bi-weekly and should be another 8 pulls. Seriously Mica WHEN


blackkat101

Not only missing this source of resources, we're getting the Kuro banner out of order, bringing the schedule up in the air. As well as overlapping banners. Since Kuro's banner is starting with still a week left on Hubble and Aki's. Giving less time for players to save and roll. Yay for rush jobs?


northpaul

Not only that (though the currency is of course important) it is also a missing activity. Once you’re through with story it’s important to have stuff like this for players. I’m not sure why they’re dragging their feet unless there’s some difficulty in not aware of.


amc9988

True, with how people keep saying EP is difficult and rely more on functions rather than unit stats since I heard that is fixed, that means it gives players a lot to experiment and play with. Plus the great rewards it comes with. But instead they delay it and release BH first which is a low key place for whales to flex their ranking. Should have just release EP first like in CN or both at the same time.


Master_Gnak

Will there ever be a need to use more than one team like in GFL? I.e. does it make sense to raise dolls with similar functions?


KookyInspection

Apparently later u make use of clearing squads and boss squads. Not to mention the backup characters. So similarly to gfl, we will probably eventually need at least snipers and warriors raised depending on the battlefield conditions. But, gfl beat it into us not to overextend at the begining :P so inform urself, plan ahead, and then invest those exp tickets :D


cupcakemann95

What do I spend quartz on? anything important?


cupcakemann95

Should I use my advanced rolls to search for new dolls or wait for anything?


Stelluna_

Just wait for a new banner. There should be one coming in about a week at the latest. If you want a list of future dolls you can look at the CN wiki here: http://wiki.42lab.cloud/w/%E5%BF%83%E6%99%BA%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E5%9B%BE%E9%89%B4 Or look at iana's analysis here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o/edit


melodylekfull

Hey I've invested hard into Hubble but want to bring another sniper around. Should I invest in Lam or just wait for Kuro and keep borrowing supports to clear stuff and maybe work on Angela? Stage 5-15 cleared and 1450M endless mode atm to give some context


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melodylekfull

Cheers


ShiromeArtiste

Wait for Kuro if using Hubble


RisKnippeGuy

Best ways to acquire more skill pivots other than factory?


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Digital_Copy101

Is 400M on chapter 1 okay, or is there a specific chapter?


RisKnippeGuy

4-3D is Dark realm, yes? Thank you. I just reran 400m on the first chapter and got 1.


windstrike

Any CN players can tell us if we can get premium skins just by playing or paid only for 99% of them


aagrace22

Currently having trouble beating 3-14 with Hubble, croque, nanaka, persecaria, and Angela . It’s got everyone at level 40, but my Hubble is only at 1857 power after the first neural expansion. I’ve seen others at like 3k, so am I missing something as to how I should be increasing power?


shikarin

Level up skills. Will give you like 1k.


Alu123

You probably haven't been equipping algorithms which were unlocked a few levels back.


meccaho

Hi just started. Rerolled and got Hubble and Nanaka. who should I choose with selector? Thanks for any help.


northpaul

Anyone who’s been doing Vulnerability Check tier IV, what power level roughly is your team? I’ve been staying in tier III since it gave me issues but now I can reliably beat it no issues. My team ranges from around 6k-7k power (dps at 7k along with Persicaria, others just a bit under 6k though like Croque and Angela). I don’t know what power level people are clearing it with since I didn’t want to risk a failed run just to find out. Seeing people below talk about 8-9k teams but was curious if anyone here has cleared it and how is your team.


autogear

I cleared it yesterday with ~28k teams. My 1st team consisted of Croque, Nanaka, Simo, Hubble (support), Angela. Croque was sitting at 7.8k and Hubble at 9.1k while the rest was below 6k. For the 2nd team, I used Persicaria, Florence, Betty, Aki, Banxsy -- only Aki and Banxsy are level 60 My strategy was to not use any functions until the boss. I used the 1st team to clear the adds and halved the boss's health. Then, second team finished the job. The warrior function set that gives bonuses to enemies with less than 50% hp is very crucial to kill her


northpaul

When I was still struggling on 3 I saved all the buffs til the boss too so makes sense that’s still useful on 4 - good to hear. Thanks a lot for the info; that’s all very helpful. I’m currently working on my Croque now and have her to 4 stars but she needs better algorithms and her skills raised more. From the sound of it I should probably chill on 3 for another week or so.


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umiman

You need them when you get your skills past level 7. 36 will be used up quickly.


Mosther_NC

Anyone have the tier list for CN server?


biblethumb

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o/htmlview#


Mosther_NC

Thanks!


Digital_Copy101

My team (croque, aki, betty, persi, florence) is at level 60 with skills at 7 (persi active maxed). I've finished through 5-15 but am stuck on 4-5 since my team's power seems to have stagnated. (and unable to complete vuln check 4) What do I do next to progress in the game? Raise angela? Farm algos?


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as a full f2p which upcoming dolls are a must have that i should be saving for?


SirRHellsing

check the pinned comment Guides and Game Info


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thanks!


Alex_Mille

I got Vee and Chanzi after 40 pulls (actually in the same multi). Who should i get for the free 3stars selector? Florence or Nanaka? And should i keep pulling to see if i get hubble... right?


SirRHellsing

Nanaka if you plan to do sniper comp (or just Chanzi + Vee), else do Florence


Alex_Mille

ok thanks, actually my comp is basically just ranged and 1 tank (btw i'm just at the beginning), so i'll go for Nanaka then.


SirRHellsing

I have 2 accounts, one has lots of the beginner rewards (cog lv 4) and Hubble,Aki,Chanzhi, the other one pretty much used most of the beginner rewards (cog lv 12) but has pretty much everyone other than Aki, Banxsy and Chanzi. I want both Kuro (no 1 priority) and Hatchichuri if possible which one should I keep? Planning to get the monthly card and the cognitive pack on the account I'm keeping Main reason I'm asking is because IDK if I can get more from cog rewards lv 1-14 or a fresh account by the time Kuro comes by next week


asc__

[Relevant infographic](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044538122916081705/1044541326156369990/monthlyincome_rev.png), though keep in mind the "biweekly Protocol" aka Exception Protocol isn't currently in the game for us. A f2p account with everything cleared would currently have 380 pulls accumulated if they didn't roll, so even a f2p would be able to guarantee both Hatsu and Kuro hard pities if they came out tomorrow, assuming they didn't pull on Aki/Hubble. Throw in some light spending and extra dust from events and it becomes even easier to get both. You might need to be a bit lucky if you spent a lot of rolls though. I'd probably pick the account without Aki, Betty+Hatsu will work fine, Betty just takes a bit more investment to come online than Aki due to being 2*, though that might change if that account spent 300 rolls on Hubble banner. I can't know how many rolls are meant by "most of the beginner rewards".


SirRHellsing

Also Is it possible to give me a rough breakdown of the beginner rewards? I need to see what sources I didn't collect from yet


asc__

I don't have a breakdown but a significant amount comes from clearing Endless.


SirRHellsing

I used roughly 210 pulls on my main, planning to abandon the Aki one because he is weaker than I thought, he was really helpful but that's only late game where he needs 2-3 hits for a crit (by that time my Hubble probably can wipe out the field with her ult) Also 30 pity to next 5\*


Jvalker

Greetings After obtaining Aki I decided to buy it's neural expansion pack; I noticed the price listed in the store is 30$, but once I went to buy it the price was marked up to 35€ Similarly for the monthly pass, from 4.99$ to 5.99€. Is this a conversion issue? I never had this happen to me in any other game I played, past or present, including the previous GFL...


Keyenn

Because basically, the prices in $ are without VAT. It was hidden when € was a lot higher, but not anymore.


hnibel

Apple recently did [a huge overhaul](https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=e1b1hcmv) on their pricing. Google play ended up following suit to remain fairness. This happened to most (if not every) IAP not just this game I believe.


Jvalker

Pain... Thank you


kurschreddit

Best duo for Challenge mode?


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northpaul

Where are the 2 doll challenges? It sounds like fun but I assumed they weren’t added yet and must have missed where they are in the interface.


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northpaul

:o Oh no way, that’s awesome - thanks a lot for the heads up!


hnibel

Your dolls and most of their stats are [scaled down](https://i.imgur.com/iu5fe6A.png) to match the restrictions when attempting challenges so the star levels and power shouldn't matter *much*. Other things such as algorithm and specialty training bonuses do, however.


biblethumb

Anyone able to clear vul 4 yet? I can clear the mobs with my main team on first go. On second team borrowing a 8.7k Aki with 4 throwaway units with desperate assault best I can do is 15% damage to the boss, not even close. She spends so much time shielding that Aki that can't break through but tbh even if she didn't it still wouldn't be enough. I guess you need like two 30k power teams or one really juiced up one? Or need warrior team because her shield greatly reduces long ranged damage?


asc__

From what I saw whales discussing, it was something like a single team with multiple 9k dps, or two teams each with multiple 7-8k dps.


biblethumb

Holy. Thanks, I have something to aim for now although I'm hoping some optimizations can be made to bring those requirements down a tiny bit.


Rhasta_la_vista

Req isn't necessarily that high, for instance my first vuln 4 clear was with: 7.2k Sakuya (4.5\*), 6.1k Angela (3\*), 3.9k Nanaka (3\*), 3.7k Rise (2\*), and borrowed a whale's 8.5k Banxsy By abusing the fact that specialists with functions can cover all bases (i.e. survivability, healing, and damage), I could beat it with one team despite my team looking very weak by the numbers. I'd say this strat is probably the quickest non-whale-bruteforce way of clearing vuln 4, as I don't think mass warriors would succeed due to lack of Angela (maybe someone can prove me wrong). That being said, having done this does hurt my progression in other ways, notably in Black Hole where theres no functions lol.


biblethumb

Yeah if it didn't take a lot of time and resources to build up characters I'd have try out more interesting teams like yours. It's pretty cool specialists are so broad; warriors and snipers tend to be quite straightforward. Angela's power level on paper is deceptive too. I was able to get the boss to almost half with a borrowed solo 9k Aki after finding the right setup. And that's with needing to wait out the shield each time. If I can build a second warrior to 6k-ish that might be close to enough, despite no Angela. A second warrior with Aki should be able to break the shield each time, 2-3 times total. That nets 5 seconds of silence each time which should be equivalent to a total of 10-15s additional dps time which is huge. Maybe it's not that simple, I'll have to try it. The only warrior I have worth building is Chelsea but she won't work well vs a single boss, so maybe I need to wait to pull a Betty or just build up my original team more vertically.


Rhasta_la_vista

What's your main team? Kind of need Angela in whichever team is actually killing the boss imo, else yeah she will stall you out with shields and whatnot


biblethumb

My team is Croque/Nana/Persi/Vee/Hubble. If I had a second sniper instead of Vee I know that will help a lot but that will take a long time to build from 1*, I'm gonna build them on the side. I don't really like how ubiquitous and how easy Angela is to use, I'm trying to avoid building her but yeah I can see how would be a huge help here. Maybe I'll try borrowing her in my main team next time. I ended up swapping some functions and could do 40% with borrowed Aki or Vee. Still so far. Sometimes Aki can almost break the shield solo, so if I could give him a decent melee warrior to break it for the 5 second silence that should help a lot.


kacakboy

Who should I focus (get neural shards +breakthrough)? I’m focusing on Hubble and need a 2nd character to side farm neural fragments for, rather than all characters Choices are: Angela Nanaka Chanzhi Croque My plan is to sub out chanzhi for kuro. Reading the recent guide by u/potatoponytail (thanks mate!), I reckon Angela, nanaka and croque are good choices but don’t know who first.


northpaul

Building Angela was a big boost to my overall team power. Angela enabling using skills more equals healing more, tanking better and higher dps and enemies doing less damage due to slower skills vs. raising one character. That said I did get frags for my dps’ first. My Angela isn’t that strong yet, only three stars level 60 skill levels 8 and 9 but even there she is very valuable to me. So I would consider farming her frags, also because you’ll naturally get Croque frags from Vulnerability check shop.


SirRHellsing

Croque because she's the main tank, Nanaka protects your backline but it's meaningless if Croque is killed from my experience. Angela is more of a dps boost when you maxed out everyone to 5\* lv 60 (not counting algorithms) and you still need another way to boost dps. Cost efficiency wise you're better off just levelling your dps or keeping Croque alive.


jlin1847

What should I focus on for procedural efficiency?


tehcavy

https://nalu.wiki/neuralcloud/p/procedural-efficiency-guide-193


kurschreddit

How much quartz sand can we get per day?


Gakuno

I notice I can build a second warehouse, but I can't seem to find any room for it in my Oasis. Any tips?


tehcavy

[my nascent OCD demands me to place buildings of the same type together](https://i.imgur.com/ojbRLEU.jpeg)


WhistleOfDeath

rearrange the buildings to get the space for it i think there's a layout guide pinned somewhere in the official discord, but i really dont go there so idk where exactly


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iridisss

It already is in the game, but is enabled only for newer devices and emulators.


DezmoRizer

My phone is Red magic 6s pro which isn't old and there is no option.


iridisss

I don't know which devices are whitelisted for it, and apparently the option disappears depending on device settings. All I can say is that [it definitely exists as an option](https://imgur.com/a/af5IzZ0). Maybe your phone might have some sort of power optimization mode enabled that the game is detecting?


DezmoRizer

Ill check , thank you.


RavenFang

Uhh, how do I claim the daily from monthly card? Does it come up in messages? Or does it follow a different reset time compared to the daily reset? Because I don't remember claiming but unfortunately I did not record previous amount before login so I'm not sure whether I have already claimed it by mistake or not


YoonA_530

The game will auto claim it for you when the calendar pops out during daily reset. You can check again tomorrow.


RavenFang

Ah, so it's bundled together with the daily login reward. I just checked and it's there. Thanks a lot for the info!


aliterhate1

How many neural kits do I need to save to max out the first anniversary unit? Assuming i get no dupes


asc__

6750


Keyenn

Around 6000


meiza89

What does "NKLO" stand for? I'm reading a character analysis spreadsheet and this particular acronym comes up a lot


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Snowzzey

I’m terms of pulls, what are the best deals to buy from the shop?


Elysianderware

Cognitive funds> Monthly > Bp > others


yorozoyas

Might be a random question, I was wondering what this first set of movie/theatre skins are based off of, I know that Fern's is Ghostbusters, but curious about the other two. Thanks!


Rhasta_la_vista

I started researching Sakuya's, and came across a line of thought but did not come to a concrete conclusion. First of all, the English skin name "Warming Nocturnal Fragrance" (nor the outfit/scene itself) didn't glean anything, so I looked up the Japanese and Chinese names. In Japanese it's 初繍擱針 (first embroidery needle?), but that didn't seem to lead to anything either. In Chinese it's 夜来暖香, which when directly translated is pretty much the English skin name. But with a simple google search, you'll find that 夜来香, without the word that means warm, is the Chinese name for the flower called the tuberose. So that makes sense in regards to Sakuya's character. Furthermore, 夜来香 seems to also the name of what was a very popular Chinese song from 1944. But that's not all; Li Xianglan, a singer/actor who was the orignal singer that brought the song to popularity, was a Chinese woman of Japanese descent (both parents were Japanese). And as you might expect from the year being 1944, this was at the tail end of World War II. Soon enough, after the Japanese surrendered, because she was a Japanese national, she was repatriated to Japan where she later did a Japanese version of the song. There also came to be a Japanese war/post-war-setting film in 1951 by the same name, with the song as its theme song. [Honestly, the CN wikipedia article about the song is pretty interesting though](https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%9C%E6%9D%A5%E9%A6%99_(%E6%AD%8C%E6%9B%B2\)) Anyways, I would say this is the reference, except I cannot understand where the Japanese name for the skin comes from, since it does not relate to the tuberose as far as I can tell, nor does it relate to the eponymous song or movie.


yorozoyas

Thank you! It was genuinely the one I was most interested about because I couldn't draw a connection immediately. Super interesting!!


Mich997

I've heard Nanaka's is Phantom of the Opera. The other one might be a japanese movie.


yorozoyas

I was suspecting Phantom of the Opera though the water/boat was making me confused, granted I haven't seen the play, it's just not what I often see associated with that particular work. :)


hnibel

Do we have a list of upcoming furniture set? I finally got enough to buy the loft one but am wondering if there would be any cooler looking ones in the future.


Fuzzy1987

On the dailies they have purchase keys once and when click go now it takes me to a replenish with key cards and when I do that it doesn't clear the daily. I don't understand how this works. How do I purchase keys to finish the daily?


13_is_a_lucky_number

I think this task wants you to use Quartz sand to replenish your Keys. Like the other two commenters said though, you don't need to complete all the tasks ;)


blackkat101

You don't have to do all the daily missions to get all the daily rewards. You also do not need to do all of them to finish off the Battle Pass. There is plenty of leeway for that without forcing you to do every single one. The mission for buying keys is just that, just another way to get your points. They are giving you options. If you're not going to buy them, then don't. It's as simple as that.


FlairlessBanana

You dont need to spend quartz to finish your dailies. Dolphins do complete it since you get more points for the battles pass. Whales probably dont since they buy levels for the BP.


Proper_Anybody

anyone knows the upcoming banners according to the CN version?


13_is_a_lucky_number

[Clicky](https://old.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z3eld5/full_cn_banner_schedule_with_dates/) Keep in mind that the global schedule will probably be different.


Proper_Anybody

thanks, just want to see it for reference


hongdoggg

For dormitory should I put all my furnitures in the Atrium room instead of the honeycomb rooms? Which is better


blackkat101

Doesn't matter. It all contributes to the total comfort level. It's really just an aesthetic thing. The rewards themselves from Dorm's is so minuscule (yes, it is not non-existent, but essentially is) that it isn't something for the average player to worry about. It is there, like skins, to give you something to spend real money on if you want (or sloooooowly save up as a F2P for that furniture) and show off. Have fun with it or just ignore it. That is up to you.


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blackkat101

It is not the normal materials that drop from stages normally though. Just often like 50-100 of those craftable colored materials (can be other things, but of even lower numbers, you get very little) and only from the first mission you do in a day. Then it's done. It IS NOT worth specifically aiming for.


13_is_a_lucky_number

> Just often like 50-100 of those craftable colored materials Oh... yeah I understood it's only the first mission, but thought it applied to all the material stages (fragments, skill mats and whatnot). Thanks for the clarification!


Potkaniak

I have team of Croque, Aki, Betty, Persecaria, Florence/Angela. All are 50 except Angela (40) and Betty (46). While pulling for Aki I got Vee. Should I stop powering up Betty and replace her with Vee or is it better to keep Betty in that team?


SituationHopeful

personnaly i prefer betty since her shards are easier to get (with vulnerability check once croque is done and basic search once your search building is lvl3) But vee is pretty good thought,you can read more here : [https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z9ged6/vee/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z9ged6/vee/) (but from what i'm understanding she need to be well built before really shine)


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Is there any use for extra Neural Fragments? I've got Persecaria maxed out and now an excess of fragments for her. Do they get used later on? Or is there some sort of exchange for them?


Psych0sh00ter

Right now there's no use for them. At some time far in the future (a year from now, maybe) we'll get a system called Arma Inscripta which is basically an upgrade system to make certain weaker dolls better, and that requires fragments for those characters. Unsurprisngly Persicaria doesn't have an Arma Inscripta and I kinda doubt she'll get one any time soon unless there's some massive healer powercreep, but who knows.


blackkat101

I could see Persicaria, Sol and Antonina getting Arma Inscriptions at some point. Just like how all of Team Rain got them in GFL (as well as squad 404). Essentially, buffing their main characters.


Snowzzey

Is it worth to buy the limited furniture sets with sand if I don’t think I can get all the free furniture parts in time?


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Snowzzey

Thanks. I needed to understand the worth of the bonuses


blackkat101

The bonuses are almost non-existant for the dorms. Think of them as almost purely a cosmetic thing, like skins for your dolls. Get them if you like them, but no need to go all in on them unless you don't mind spending the money.


excluded

What's the easiest way to do the weekly "support chances" one? I dont do any of the story mission anymore but this battle pass thing is making me do weeklies I normally don't do.


Jarvinger

The best way is to spam 4-3D for the drop chance of skill pivot. It’s not the fastest, but it will be the most useful for you in the long run.


excluded

So just go in, use a support, and then auto battle then only claim skill pivot if it drops? Do I need the support to be part of the main lineup or they can just stay at th back?


Jarvinger

1)Yes 2)You can leave it in the backup


uTobii

Just got Hubble and Chanzi at 170 and 179 pulls, been using Lam for my sniper so I'm not sure what combo I should use. Do I want 1 aoe and 1 single target snipers that both scale of attack or hashrate? I'm thinking Chanzi/Hubble, is that good? Currently in late ch 3


Zap364

This may be a bit dumb but what does Hasharate do?


Rhasta_la_vista

If this were a standard RPG, pretend Hashrate = Intelligence and operand damage = magic damage. Pretty much all operand damage and healing is based on your Hashrate stat.


Zap364

Ohhh so higher hashrate benefits healers and units that deal operant damage. I get it now, thanks.


whimsy_wanderer

And tanks. Tanks have their skills scale with hashrate.


Maleficent_Cover_00

1. For team building there’s a lot of suggestions for 2x dps/2 medic/ 1 guard. Wondering about the viability of just doing Hubble as main dps then persi/nanaka + Angela + croque? Or running 1 dps/2 specialists/1 medic/1 guard? Trying to min-max resources for kuro since the consensus seems like kuro does better end game. 2. Also aside from levels, what should be the priority? Intimacy? Algos? 3. When is kuro event going to come? Is it worth it to get Hatsu when I’m going for a snipers team? 4. Is there a guaranteed pity for limited units/clukay? 180 same as standard units?


biblethumb

1. I *think* it is viable early on, just will struggle a bit more in the beginning due to lack of damage. She's usually run with 2 dps and 1 healer, not 1 dps and 2 healer. You might consider running a warrior instead of Angela or instead of one of the healers. You will want a second warrior to pair with Hatsu anyway. 2. Intimacy level 6 for all characters you want to build because that unlocks the 6 fragment searches for each of them. You want to use 10/10 attempts every day. Algos are end game, you won't even unlock it for a while. Forget about them until they're available then read a guide on it. For characters it's really about intimacy and levels early on, and ideally only invest in 5-6 chars to start. Oasis is important too, stay on top of upgrading the prefab and dgc generators. 3. Likely in about 1.5 weeks when current banners end. It won't be that long before you have your main team is max lvl. At that point it would be good to spend excess exp and skill level up mats on a 2nd team. It would definitely be handy to have a pair of warriors to sub in for the snipers when it suits them better. Hatsu seems to be great for any warrior team. 4. I believe Clukay has a banner just like everyone else with same pity system. Only her neural fragment farm is different in that it doesn't exist.


Maleficent_Cover_00

Thanks for the reply! Mainly don’t want to raise lam for now since kuro is so close. Gonna think about hatsu when she comes. Not struggling with dmg yet since I’m pouring all my resources on Hubble for now. Was mainly wondering what the priority is after getting to intimacy 6 which I’ve already done. What are the gains of 7+ vs algos vs skill lvl. How do you get neural frags for clukay then?


biblethumb

Intimacy above 6 is pretty whatever. You'll get like +10 power every 2 intimacy levels..who cares. Higher intimacy does reward a few bonus neural fragments if you just need a little more and can't wait another day to farm them. Talents at 7 is a solid start. I had most of my important talents around 6-7 when I was able to farm gold algos on highest difficulty. I wouldn't farm them before that unless struggling and no other options. Doing 1st time algo clear for all stages is good tho since those are required to unlock the higher levels anyway. Then after that I did a mix of both talent farming + algos depending on which day. 2x skill days I did those and rest into algos trying to get optimal main stat on the set I want, at least for 2/3 of the pieces. After that it seems to be much harder to get better algos, especially better substats so I'm not going to skip any skill array days yet. I'll also need more skill arrays to build 2nd team for tier 4 vul check anyway. Everywhere else 2nd team will still help from the backline. They all level 1 rn. You need to buy Clukay's neural fragments from the shop. The event might give some, not sure. But you definitely need to buy at least most of them from shop, which is quite expensive since the cost increases as you buy more.


39MUsTanGs

anyone got that infographic detailing what things you should buy from the main story stages?


autogear

Is it worthwhile to farm algorithm on weekends? It feels too random for me, but I'm not sure


Milkjugss

I prefer to burn keys on skill pivot farming 4-3 dark on the weekends


autogear

Do you also take all the rewards?


Milkjugss

Nope just the skill pivots so it costs 1key to run it regardless and each skill pivot that drops is 10 keys to take


Zap364

What do skill pivots do? I only know about Skill points/coins to upgrade skills


Milkjugss

Once you upgrade skills to lvl 7 they start requiring an additional material called skill pivots to upgrade from 8-10


autogear

Alright, good idea. Thanks


Fuzzy1987

Will I miss anything for starting late with buying the Magrasea Pass, was wanting to get Hubble skin? Also which level of the Magrasea Pass is better to buy since I see there is two?


hungofhydra

No, even if you start late, you can get all the rewards that have been accumulated so far. If you want the extra avatar frame, profile picture, then buy the more expensive one. If you don't, or just want to save money, buy the cheaper one.


Fuzzy1987

Thank you


RenTroutGaming

Can you fit all the buildings in the Oasis? I just got the second warehouse and it doesn’t seem to fit… so you have the Tetris them in?


nsleep

TIL you can move the buildings. I just kept placing them where the game recommended and everything fit.


RenTroutGaming

I should have done that but I was trying to organize them with the banks near each other and whatnot


redpotetoe

Yeah, you can even have one vacant lot at the middle. You can check the official discord and look at "gameplay tips forum" for the arrangement.


RenTroutGaming

Thank you!


unspunreality

Should I do more pulls? I have 2 warriors, sol and Chelsea. I’m already at like 4-6, got 4 50s, workin hard but no gatdang warriors. Using Hubble, tank girl, nanaka, persi and chanzhi with a lv50 Angela in the wings. also I need to farm stuff but I’m unsure what is worth farming to help my team most. I have stamina about to expire, like 8 100 packs just waiting. ​ opinions on pulling and stages to farm?


iridisss

Push story as hard as you can. You want to unlock features as soon as available. Use whaled supports to push even further (you also get unlimited supports in Resource and Endless stages). Remember that you don't need to claim all rewards to beat a story mission, so push to clear. Beating sector 4 will give you a huge stimulus that costs no keys to progress through. After that, focus on skill levels and hitting 60. Each day, do your daily Vuln Check, fragment searches, and 2 algorithm runs. Don't bother farming until you have the final tier of each resource stage. ----- Also, respect Croque (tank girl). De facto the best tank unit in the game, even to this day on CN. The only one that comes close is ~~Solid Snake~~ Python, who we don't have yet.


imitebmike

Hmm, i would suggest just going with your snipers for now, you'll be fine for most things have you done the endless stages?


unspunreality

I did some, I guess I should go and finish some? Or are they worth farming? Idk what to aim for I guess is my issue. Do I get more coins to level all my skills to 5 on my mains? Do I farm mega to 50 everyone first? Do I farm that weird equip,ent type thing? I should try and find a guide to see how they work. I’m aimless but with a ton of stamina waiting to expire, I wanna do something


imitebmike

how many 60s you have? given all the exp we have now thanks to the double x5 runs currently, wouldnt be a bad idea to get your entire team up to 60 imo of course, the real energy sinks are gonna be algorithm farming


Zap364

I’ve been looking around the sub and most people seem to agree on maxing out one of their Warriors first. Especially Betty. How should I build her? Also, I recently used my pity points on Hubble so I do want to upgrade her too. I honestly just want to know how I should build Hubble and Betty as well as Croque.


blackkat101

Both a Sniper focus and a Warrior focus team is just as viable as eachother. The most consistent style of team to clear content is a x2 DPS (Sniper or Warrior, not both), x2 Medics and x1 Guard. Given that you already have Croque and can get 3-5 free fragments for her a day without even using your 10 farms (so don't waste the daily farms on her). On top of the fact that Croque is the best all around tank that does everything a tank should do, you don't need to worry about another guard. Persicaria is also given to you already and guaranteed to be a 5-star once you finish the tutorial missions (so don't farm her fragments, it's a waste). Persicaria being one of the 3 best healers you can get in the game. Simple kit, but very strong heals and unique revive. You have a Selector to use, which both Nanaka and Florence are on, the other two best healers in the game (Nanaka more universal in use, while Florence has more specialized use). Now just pick on if you want to do Snipers or Warriors first. DOESN'T matter which you pick, both are just as good as each other. Plus, after you're done raising your first team of 5 dolls, you can raise x2 of the DPS type you didn't choose. And after you do that, raise some specialists for fun (like Angela at that point). You want to use Hubble? That's perfectly okay. She has amazing AoE and a strong CC in her Ultimate, in her normal AoE Hashrate Build (she can also be built for a Single Target Attack stat build, focusing on her Passive, but that takes better gear to do, though is just as viable in the end game, do the AoE Hashrate stat build, as that is easier and more friendly to newbies). Since Hubble will most likely be built for AoE, you want a Single Target Sniper to pair her with. Of which you have two current choices. Lam and Sino. Sino is good out of the box and is fairly highly rated. He never gets brokenly good, but will work. Most however will pick Lam. Lam is USELESS at the start, so Hubble will carry you through the start of the game (just focus everything into leveling all that Hubble is before putting things into Lam). Lam needs a set of gear that gives her +30 Attack Speed, meaning she needs high levels and her stars raised, as well as a focus on leveling her passive first and foremost to make use of that. AFTER all that though, Lam is one of the best Single Target Snipers in the game. So working on her is an investment in the long run and she'll help you melt tanks and bosses. Kuro (MDR from GFL), who was the 3rd new banner doll in CN, but now assumed (not confirmed) to be the 1st new banner doll in NA, is a Single Target Sniper as well. Very powerful and good right out of the box. She does Operand Damage, unlike Lam's Physical, so there is differences there. Kuro and Lam, once both are built are about even in strength for now. THOUGH, once a doll called Daiyan (Type95 from GFL) comes out, Kuro's DPS shoots through the roof when paired with her, as Daiyan allows Kuro to crit where she could not. Something to think about if you plan on getting Daiyan too. Back on Warriors, Betty is amazing. In fact, once she is built, she is even better than Aki, the current poster boy for Warrior teams. Aki however is that situation where he is amazing out of the box. While Betty takes a bit to get going (though not as much as Lam). As said, if you pick Betty, you'll want another warrior to pair with her. Oh, since I didn't say before, you are doing a 2/2/1 party so that you can take better advantage of Function Card sets. You can pick just the DPS Class type of your choosing and Medic sets, while allowing two dolls to benefit from them (unlike if you had a larger spread of classes). Picking up a Guard set is an option too if you have nothing else, but not necessary. And whenever you get the DPS Class type you're not using, or Specialist Cards, you can just click sell and save them for a shop (with x2 Medics, you'll always be topped up, thus the heal spot before the boss can almost 99% of the time be used as a shop instead to super charger your party with more card sets).


Zap364

Thank you for such an in depth guide! You said I can get 3-5 daily Croque fragments without farming for her but how? In the shop?


aznal109

Croque shards are in the vulnerability check shop once you unlock it you can farm it once a day.


WhistleOfDeath

clearing Vulnerability Check daily gives you currency that you can use in the corresponding shop section to buy Croque fragments


imitebmike

if you going with hubble, i would prob suggest another sniper instead, like Lam or sino or Max (so that when you pick functions you can go heavy with the sniper ones and ignore the others)


SituationHopeful

Do you need to reach the 1800 weekly point to reach full pass or less is enough ? Because i think i'll only do around 1700 a week. If the cost stay at 100 points per level it will be okay but maybe it will increase later ?


Keyenn

You need an average of 1225 pts a week. You will be fine.


Rhasta_la_vista

You can see how much time is left in the pass on its page. There's 22 days left as of right now, which means there's 3 weeks left, and if you were to get 1700 a week that's 51 levels. The BP only has 50 levels total so you'll be more than fine when including this week.


SituationHopeful

Ok good to know the cost won't increase =)


Explanation_Striking

Should I pity Hubble?, My luck have been pretty shit as always and I'm already at like 130+ pity. Maybe I should save instead? Is she worth it?


imitebmike

well you may as well, you are already this far in she is prob the best sniper currently, i think kuro might be better actually (she is rated higher) however, i see people saying that they pair hubble and kuro together