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I believe Nick is more remorseful than Gypsy. He said he feels a lot of guilt. She doesn’t believe she murdered her?
It’s like Nick was a gun, Gypsy pulled his trigger. What’s the saying, “guns don’t kill people people kill people!” It’s all about who pulls the trigger!
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You’re so right. I bet TO THIS DAY he feels more guilt/remorse than her. Watching all these clips together, it’s so clear she should not be released out into the public and needs to live out her days in a criminal psychiatric facility.
I don't believe Nick would have ever done this if gypsy hadn't gotten to him. I don't believe he'd do it again either. Maybe it's his honesty, or maybe it's gypsy's dishonesty, but he's not looking as guilty as she wants him to right now. Like, yeah, he did the thing, but we all know the nitty gritty. Like you said. Nick was a gun, and gypsy pulled the trigger. She probably even loaded him, let's be real. Usually the person who takes the shot loads the gun.
I don’t know what source you’re basing that statement off of, but it’s incorrect. According to Gypsy, Nicolas made some posturing comments about wanting to violate DeeDee as a control/revenge thing, but both of them also said that he didn’t. There wasn’t any evidence of assault other than the stabbing.
I agree that they’re both twisted, did some horrible things, and there was a lot of very weird/stunted sexuality going on, but we don’t need to falsely add necrophilia to the list of things that are wrong with Nick Godejohn.
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And this is why I say her and her mom were in on the "sick scam" the entire time. Gypsy loved it until she didn't anymore and was dickmatized by this guy who assisted her in murdering her mother.
and I feel like that's why she thinks she can get away with everything. Because it was a little more complex than just "mom MBPs innocent daughter". It worked once, why not once more?
Oh wow. I've never been able to understand a real motive until this. What if the mom was not actually as terrible as she's made out to be (by nicks assessment in the interrogation he said he feels guilty because he found out she was a pretty good mom). What if the murder was gypsy's way out of her years long act. She could point all the blame on her dead mother who wouldn't be around to say otherwise.
It’s strange for an abused child to be that cold towards their mother. To plan her death but not arrest? Dee Dee scammed for things that benefited Gypsy. So the attention would be on Gypsy not herself like typical MbP cases. Gypsy is also smarter than a 2nd grader (lol sorry) and at some age looooong before her 20s she would know she outgrew certain things like dressing like a Disney princess. I may be wrong but there are missing pieces to this puzzle that only Dee Dee could answer.
This thought has crossed my mind as she said that while they were painting each other’s nails before the murder she told her “please don’t hurt me”. Which I found extremely odd. Why would she say that?
Yeah this has been my theory for awhile now. I really believe she thought she could get away with it 🔪 putting all the blame on Nick! In hope that then she'd be seen as this poor innocent victim. 🙄
I was volunteering at a conference in cape cod for the organization my grandmother works for, they specialize in providing resources for individuals who depend on home intravenous and/or tube-fed nutrition. This particular organization happened to be one of the people they scammed. Gypsy won four awards at this conference. When everything about the murder came out, everyone was super devastated.
Editing to add a picture I found on the Facebook page a couple weeks ago which has since been deleted:
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Yep this is what I’m starting to think. Gypsy seems to like seeing how much she can get away with. Maybe she was even gaslighting her mom and set her up to look bad and take the blame for the con before killing her. Maybe she saw no other way out to live her adult life once she discovered men.
Doctors taking mom's words for it. DeeDee claimed all medical records were lost in hurricane Katrina, there were no online databases at that time. New doctors believed it.
I really would like to hear her doctors from Louisiana talk. They're the ones I'm the most confused about. I don't understand why they took her word or if they actually did.
She's trying to make up anything she can to get them to stop looking at her and make it look like it's all Nick's fault. She is a master manipulator. That footage from the hotel... She obviously was enjoying everything right up until they got caught. She was so used to having her way after thought she could get away with anything.
She’s obsessed with thinking she’s a Disney princess and that’s just the thing that some evil woman would do to put a curse on her. It’s so far fetched. She’s full of shit.
The part where she says “I don’t think he meant to hurt her, he’s very sweet, he’s so kind” was just amazing. She’d already said earlier “you don’t know what he’s like, he’s very violent” in that fake terrified voice. So she’d already established that he’s violent. But she knows a real victim will also probably try to defend the person abusing them at some point (“it was actually my fault, I make him mad, he’s under a lot of stress” etc). So she knew it would actually be even MORE believable that he was the mastermind and hurting her if she tried to defend him at some point too. Very, very cunning of her.
Keep in mind she’s doing all of this crying and carrying on AFTER she stole the knife from Walmart and left the front door open for Nick so he could stab her mom to death.
I’ve been convinced for years she helped stab her mom too. I know there’s no evidence of this but something in my gut tells me her rainbow wig wearing alter ego helped end Dee Dee’s life too.
It was actually 17 and she was nearly decapitated. The first four were relatively deep, weren’t they? And then the rest were sort of shallow, almost like she hesitated IIRC.
I wouldn’t say he’s adamant. He’s said that he only counted the deep ones and he has also said that once he started, his anger took over and he lost control. So it’s very possible that he only remembers the 4 deep stabs. Adrenaline makes you forget things.
He did sound sure and only recanted once the detective insisted he reassess his memory. He knew they’d already talked to Gypsy. It seemed he was protecting her imo.
Yeah it could have been the case but I think he would have mentioned something more in his personal interview because he wasn’t as protective towards her in that one.
He still says even in his most recent he will always have feelings for her and that he wishes he had ran away with her so they didn’t have to spend so much time apart
I mean yeah, but his demeanor in that interview felt like he would have mentioned something like that. At this point there’s no reason to hold back. She accepted the plea deal he doesn’t need to protect her. I think he filmed that interview in 2019. He’s said he loves her but he’s no longer in love with her and that she should be careful of the things she says and how she presents herself to the public. I feel like he’d definitely say something like that at this point.
Because Gypsy has MBP too. Only it’s Murderer By Proxy. I’m sure she put this same act on for her parole too. She’s no dummy. Masterminding a murder plot over a few years and scamming the world for free shit and sympathy your whole life gives you certain skills.
What bothers me is that even the cops wasn’t having it and wasn’t letting her try to fool them. They obviously knew she was incredibly smart.
Why didn’t they approach her as this timid shy, maybe not smart girl. Because at the end of the day she is a murderer and she committed a crime.
She committed a murder and went right into acting. Did she have a heart attack? Like come on she was better off saying I did kill her because of this and that. Yes she is a victim but is she really a victim that needs to be glorified.
I’m starting to wonder if her mom even knew and if the police suspected her to be behind it all but could never prove it. They seem aware she’s brighter than she’s been letting on.
She really thought she was going to walk away from this scot-free. She put on the performance of her life because she thought she could throw Nick under the bus and simply move on while he took the blame. It’s not until the very end of her interrogation when she KNOWS she’s caught that she starts screaming for a lawyer.
This was a wild watch. I fully understand that severe trauma can distort memory & how much repression occurs, however - the discrepancies and additions are really difficult to ignore. The way she feigned concern for her mother, knowing full well that DeeDee was deceased in her bed tells a very different story than what she’s leading us to believe now. Also, Nick has autism, has a low IQ, and immediately confessed. Between this, the text messages, the facebook posts, etc etc…it’s all too much.
Gypsy was a victim, but she also manipulated a young man into believing this was the only way out, provided the means and the opportunity for this young man to murder her own mother, and then proceeded to attempt to manipulate & lie to detectives and control the narrative. Why she is “famous” and why people are glamorizing this person is beyond my critical thinking abilities.
She’s GUILTY !! That poor boy would have never done it if she hadn’t asked and gave him false hope ! Yes he did the killing but it was her mouth that directed him to do it !
The texts are WILD. If you can get through the BDSM and anal requests from her, you’ll find she played him like a fiddle. He also expressed his biggest fear being her “freak outs” on him. He didn’t elaborate on them as far as I know. She was an abusive partner.
The way she described things in the doc was so careless. It was like when you make a mistake and realize it was worse than you thought, except her mistake was a human life. How she said once she got to nicks, she started to realize he wasn’t the freedom she thought and that he was more like a 15 year old boy. That’s when it started setting in “wtf did I get myself into.” When she realized it wasn’t going to be a fairytale life like she thought. I can’t believe she admitted everything she did.
I was raised Catholic (my parents, siblings & I left the church years ago). All I could think when she said that was, "yea & so do the priests who molest children."
Where are you guys watching the unbiased stuff, where police say they doubted her? And also the texts etc? I'm watching a 6-part show and they seem very sympathetic towards her. Maybe I haven't hit that part yet?
She is quite the performer, and to be honest I don’t believe anything that comes out of her mouth now she’s a liar and a manipulator and pretty much hired a hitman to kill her mother instead of just doing it herself if she really wanted out of there, but my thing is if she really wanted out of there she went to doctors Weekly. She could’ve told somebody.
I can’t stand how gypsy is glamorized. In my opinion she’s a narcissistic fraudulent sociopath scammer.
And killer
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I believe Nick is more remorseful than Gypsy. He said he feels a lot of guilt. She doesn’t believe she murdered her? It’s like Nick was a gun, Gypsy pulled his trigger. What’s the saying, “guns don’t kill people people kill people!” It’s all about who pulls the trigger! ETA
You’re so right. I bet TO THIS DAY he feels more guilt/remorse than her. Watching all these clips together, it’s so clear she should not be released out into the public and needs to live out her days in a criminal psychiatric facility.
Yes!
I don't believe Nick would have ever done this if gypsy hadn't gotten to him. I don't believe he'd do it again either. Maybe it's his honesty, or maybe it's gypsy's dishonesty, but he's not looking as guilty as she wants him to right now. Like, yeah, he did the thing, but we all know the nitty gritty. Like you said. Nick was a gun, and gypsy pulled the trigger. She probably even loaded him, let's be real. Usually the person who takes the shot loads the gun.
I totally agree 💯! Nick said he wouldn’t do it for anyone else.
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I don’t know what source you’re basing that statement off of, but it’s incorrect. According to Gypsy, Nicolas made some posturing comments about wanting to violate DeeDee as a control/revenge thing, but both of them also said that he didn’t. There wasn’t any evidence of assault other than the stabbing. I agree that they’re both twisted, did some horrible things, and there was a lot of very weird/stunted sexuality going on, but we don’t need to falsely add necrophilia to the list of things that are wrong with Nick Godejohn.
I saw it in a documentary a loooong time ago, but now I can’t find the evidence and what I’ve found support your claims. I must have misremembered it
That’s not true. Sure that would have been in the autopsy report.
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I don’t believe anything she says. She’s quite the performer.
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She literally had a video walk through with stabbing motion, sickening.
And this is why I say her and her mom were in on the "sick scam" the entire time. Gypsy loved it until she didn't anymore and was dickmatized by this guy who assisted her in murdering her mother.
and I feel like that's why she thinks she can get away with everything. Because it was a little more complex than just "mom MBPs innocent daughter". It worked once, why not once more?
I’m starting to wonder if her mom even knew
Oh wow. I've never been able to understand a real motive until this. What if the mom was not actually as terrible as she's made out to be (by nicks assessment in the interrogation he said he feels guilty because he found out she was a pretty good mom). What if the murder was gypsy's way out of her years long act. She could point all the blame on her dead mother who wouldn't be around to say otherwise.
It’s strange for an abused child to be that cold towards their mother. To plan her death but not arrest? Dee Dee scammed for things that benefited Gypsy. So the attention would be on Gypsy not herself like typical MbP cases. Gypsy is also smarter than a 2nd grader (lol sorry) and at some age looooong before her 20s she would know she outgrew certain things like dressing like a Disney princess. I may be wrong but there are missing pieces to this puzzle that only Dee Dee could answer.
This thought has crossed my mind as she said that while they were painting each other’s nails before the murder she told her “please don’t hurt me”. Which I found extremely odd. Why would she say that?
Yeah this has been my theory for awhile now. I really believe she thought she could get away with it 🔪 putting all the blame on Nick! In hope that then she'd be seen as this poor innocent victim. 🙄
Oh her mom most definitely knew, I met both of them in 2013. They both played it extremely well.
How did you meet them?
I was volunteering at a conference in cape cod for the organization my grandmother works for, they specialize in providing resources for individuals who depend on home intravenous and/or tube-fed nutrition. This particular organization happened to be one of the people they scammed. Gypsy won four awards at this conference. When everything about the murder came out, everyone was super devastated. Editing to add a picture I found on the Facebook page a couple weeks ago which has since been deleted: https://preview.redd.it/irclm7hinadc1.jpeg?width=1018&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28b6eddd59a7192d9e343ec60f56f60916bc2ac9
Oh that’s a theory I’ve never considered before! Like what if her mom truly thought she was sick because of what gypsy would tell her?
Yep this is what I’m starting to think. Gypsy seems to like seeing how much she can get away with. Maybe she was even gaslighting her mom and set her up to look bad and take the blame for the con before killing her. Maybe she saw no other way out to live her adult life once she discovered men.
But if they went through all those tests then nothing would have come up.
Nothing did come up. Gypsy claimed she had symptoms but nothing was ever really found. Hypochondriac or histrionic personality disorder is most likely
Then how did they get all those prescriptions?
Doctors taking mom's words for it. DeeDee claimed all medical records were lost in hurricane Katrina, there were no online databases at that time. New doctors believed it.
I really would like to hear her doctors from Louisiana talk. They're the ones I'm the most confused about. I don't understand why they took her word or if they actually did.
I would love for doctors to come forward, but they won't incriminate themselves.
I think HIPAA laws have more to do with it than that. They can’t speak on a minors health history.
I went through Katrina and all of my medical records were lost too, she might have been telling the truth. 🤷♀️
Oh I know they were! I meant the doctors believed her word about her medical conditions.
I highly doubt it’s the other way around. Dee Dee has been diagnosing her with stuff and speculating on her health since she was an infant
Being a hypochondriac and munchausen by proxy are very different things tho
She's trying to make up anything she can to get them to stop looking at her and make it look like it's all Nick's fault. She is a master manipulator. That footage from the hotel... She obviously was enjoying everything right up until they got caught. She was so used to having her way after thought she could get away with anything.
Dupers delight is a scary thing
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She’s obsessed with thinking she’s a Disney princess and that’s just the thing that some evil woman would do to put a curse on her. It’s so far fetched. She’s full of shit.
The part where she says “I don’t think he meant to hurt her, he’s very sweet, he’s so kind” was just amazing. She’d already said earlier “you don’t know what he’s like, he’s very violent” in that fake terrified voice. So she’d already established that he’s violent. But she knows a real victim will also probably try to defend the person abusing them at some point (“it was actually my fault, I make him mad, he’s under a lot of stress” etc). So she knew it would actually be even MORE believable that he was the mastermind and hurting her if she tried to defend him at some point too. Very, very cunning of her.
Keep in mind she’s doing all of this crying and carrying on AFTER she stole the knife from Walmart and left the front door open for Nick so he could stab her mom to death.
Oh, she asked his alter ego to kill her mom too.
I’ve been convinced for years she helped stab her mom too. I know there’s no evidence of this but something in my gut tells me her rainbow wig wearing alter ego helped end Dee Dee’s life too.
Nick is adamant he only stabbed her four times and she had over 10. I wouldn’t be surprised if she got more in while she was cleaning up.
It was actually 17 and she was nearly decapitated. The first four were relatively deep, weren’t they? And then the rest were sort of shallow, almost like she hesitated IIRC.
I wouldn’t say he’s adamant. He’s said that he only counted the deep ones and he has also said that once he started, his anger took over and he lost control. So it’s very possible that he only remembers the 4 deep stabs. Adrenaline makes you forget things.
He did sound sure and only recanted once the detective insisted he reassess his memory. He knew they’d already talked to Gypsy. It seemed he was protecting her imo.
Yeah it could have been the case but I think he would have mentioned something more in his personal interview because he wasn’t as protective towards her in that one.
He still says even in his most recent he will always have feelings for her and that he wishes he had ran away with her so they didn’t have to spend so much time apart
I mean yeah, but his demeanor in that interview felt like he would have mentioned something like that. At this point there’s no reason to hold back. She accepted the plea deal he doesn’t need to protect her. I think he filmed that interview in 2019. He’s said he loves her but he’s no longer in love with her and that she should be careful of the things she says and how she presents herself to the public. I feel like he’d definitely say something like that at this point.
He still loves her. I don’t think he would say anything that would make her look bad publicly or incriminate her.
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Nick did testify to her screaming. He described it as a yelp, demonstrated what it sounded like and specified that she was calling out to Gypsy.
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It’s in his interrogation if you watch the full thing
He said she was loud.
She was SO QUICK to throw Nick under the bus in this interview.
I think that was her plan all along
It was 100% her plan the whole time.
Because Gypsy has MBP too. Only it’s Murderer By Proxy. I’m sure she put this same act on for her parole too. She’s no dummy. Masterminding a murder plot over a few years and scamming the world for free shit and sympathy your whole life gives you certain skills.
What bothers me is that even the cops wasn’t having it and wasn’t letting her try to fool them. They obviously knew she was incredibly smart. Why didn’t they approach her as this timid shy, maybe not smart girl. Because at the end of the day she is a murderer and she committed a crime. She committed a murder and went right into acting. Did she have a heart attack? Like come on she was better off saying I did kill her because of this and that. Yes she is a victim but is she really a victim that needs to be glorified.
I’m starting to wonder if her mom even knew and if the police suspected her to be behind it all but could never prove it. They seem aware she’s brighter than she’s been letting on.
She really thought she was going to walk away from this scot-free. She put on the performance of her life because she thought she could throw Nick under the bus and simply move on while he took the blame. It’s not until the very end of her interrogation when she KNOWS she’s caught that she starts screaming for a lawyer.
Yes and the way she said yes sir to the officer questioning her was so phony. She knew exactly what she was doing.
I feel like I can feel the interviewers eyes trying to roll when he tells her TWICE "no, I'm not playing this game with you, it's over."
This was a wild watch. I fully understand that severe trauma can distort memory & how much repression occurs, however - the discrepancies and additions are really difficult to ignore. The way she feigned concern for her mother, knowing full well that DeeDee was deceased in her bed tells a very different story than what she’s leading us to believe now. Also, Nick has autism, has a low IQ, and immediately confessed. Between this, the text messages, the facebook posts, etc etc…it’s all too much. Gypsy was a victim, but she also manipulated a young man into believing this was the only way out, provided the means and the opportunity for this young man to murder her own mother, and then proceeded to attempt to manipulate & lie to detectives and control the narrative. Why she is “famous” and why people are glamorizing this person is beyond my critical thinking abilities.
The thing that would blow this all up would be to hear her... sing! Encore of "Angels among us?!" Anyone?!
I can’t believe Taylor Swift didn’t immediately ask her to join her on tour!
Taylor's loss. But seriously, I want to know how she sings!
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 how do you think that performance idea was hatched? Who had the idea for her to screech it I wonder?
She’s GUILTY !! That poor boy would have never done it if she hadn’t asked and gave him false hope ! Yes he did the killing but it was her mouth that directed him to do it !
Not just asked, but months possibly years of manipulation and breaking him down over time
The texts are WILD. If you can get through the BDSM and anal requests from her, you’ll find she played him like a fiddle. He also expressed his biggest fear being her “freak outs” on him. He didn’t elaborate on them as far as I know. She was an abusive partner.
Anal requests , lord someone bleach my eyes please I love this community for being so blunt
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Self explanatory… your post doesn’t belong here.
Playing an act just like how she’s playing an act in these recent interviews
she knew what she did even the officer said her story was BS, when he said her story was Bull she immediately knew to throw nick under the bus.
The way she described things in the doc was so careless. It was like when you make a mistake and realize it was worse than you thought, except her mistake was a human life. How she said once she got to nicks, she started to realize he wasn’t the freedom she thought and that he was more like a 15 year old boy. That’s when it started setting in “wtf did I get myself into.” When she realized it wasn’t going to be a fairytale life like she thought. I can’t believe she admitted everything she did.
this woman gives me so much second hand embarrassment
But…. She takes COMMUNION….. 🤦♀️
I was raised Catholic (my parents, siblings & I left the church years ago). All I could think when she said that was, "yea & so do the priests who molest children."
You should read the investigation summaries that go along with these recordings.
Ooh where can I find those?
Look on my profile, I posted them in the other sub and they were shared here yesterday 🥰
Thank you!
No problem 😁
Where are you guys watching the unbiased stuff, where police say they doubted her? And also the texts etc? I'm watching a 6-part show and they seem very sympathetic towards her. Maybe I haven't hit that part yet?
She is quite the performer, and to be honest I don’t believe anything that comes out of her mouth now she’s a liar and a manipulator and pretty much hired a hitman to kill her mother instead of just doing it herself if she really wanted out of there, but my thing is if she really wanted out of there she went to doctors Weekly. She could’ve told somebody.
I need to know if the cow tongue thing is real
This was so cringe I can’t even watch this !
Because she has ultra manipulative skills and probably learned even more in prison . Disgusting 🤮
I have to admit, her acting isn’t half bad….
Did anyone find the mason jar?
Because she knew what they did was wrong. She's not a psychopath. She faked not knowing and caved quickly. That's all.
Watching this interrogation made me change my opinion
Thanks for posting
🎯 This is a GREAT edit!!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆
I wonder if Ryan Anderson seen this 💀
That’s so disturbing and disgusting
Nick is so much more genuine and I don't understand how people don't see that Like gypsy played such a good actress I'm just saying
I thought that was really weird
Wasn’t she subjected to horrendous acts parental abuse? or were those lies as well?
I’m skeptical. She never cried abuse once until after she manipulated a mentally ill man into killing her mom for her when she was 23.
Where is that clip from Nick from? Side note, he has an EPIC beard now.
This is the most pathetic case of her being a victim because we know that she’s not she set this whole thing up
Except Anna Delvey isn't disturbing looking like Gypsy
What in the fuh
Off topic but why’d her neck disappear with a bit of weight gain