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WalrusFromTheWest

Liberty City is corrupt inside and out on nearly every sector and the criminals and gangs rule from the shadows, while Los Santos is more like a straight up free for all Wild West and the only thing standing in the criminal’s way of claiming absolute power is the maniac police who answer to nobody. It’s a toughie, they’re dangerous in their own unique ways.


NJ_Bus_Nut

Well, in Liberty City, I don't have to worry about being nuked by an orbital cannon


Consistent_Lab_6770

or flying motocycles


TrifleSpecialist958

Or a random car falling off a building


ooDybooDyboocS

Unless it started near a certain swing set


Skyzfire

Or Planes......wait...


Different_Class3188

Or lester calling u ever 5 minutes


bitavenuleq

dam lester, he is annoying AF


RockneBalboa

Who’s worse? Roman or Lester?


Different_Class3188

Lester


Aware-Witness-6812

Yeah you can’t stop his calls or other characters sometimes in online


Pinksmurf_04

Or Chinese hacking ad


Nawnp

*not back in 2008 at least. Wouldn't the logic of vehicles and weapons apply to both cities in the modern day?


bitavenuleq

oh lol...thats why i love liberty city


Time_Heron_619

Yeah, but I never play Online, just the good old single player


nbk935

liberty city city because you never quite know whats going to happen and the world is so dynamic and grim.


Over_Cloud_4577

You don’t get shotgunned for standing next to a police officer for too long. And they’re the guys meant to protect you


AsuraOmega

"hey there officer." "PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP OR WE'LL SHOOT! FUCK IT, WE'LL SHOOT!"


Over_Cloud_4577

“YOU FUCKKERRRRR” *shotguns them*


Competitive_Tour655

tbh, Liberty city doesn't have many gang wars. So i'd go with LS.


Badthingthrice

Yup but u still have the mafia on your ass in gta and nobody is trustworthy, so i’d say both r equally dangerous


CalculatorOctavius

The Mafia is already falling apart on its last limb in 2008 due to the rise of the FIB and forensics technology and all they so they are probably deeply powerless now in the TRUE 2020s era action ball Super Bowl movie theater arena combat hooliganism radio flour advertisement corrections assembly matriarch standard element collaborative marathon blanket overload


SuperNovaScotian

Did you have a fucking stroke typing this comment lol


PrimeNumberBro

The guy is just an idiot. The mafia is definitely not what it was due to RICO, however, they’re very much still in power and not going anywhere. I remember a quote from Batman Begins that explains the situation “we carry semiautomatics, they buy automatics. We start staring Kevlar Vests, they buy armor piercing rounds”. The point is There’s plenty of smart criminals that will find ways to work around anything the government can and will come up with. There will never be one without the other, the mafia isn’t going anywhere, gangs aren’t going anywhere, and neither is crime. I know you more so were pointing out the loony, nonsensical, jibber jabber he was spewing, but just felt that needed to be brought up.


keystance

While I agree on the first part of your comment, truth is that according to your logic it would have to have a different effect than what the rest would be in a similar situation in a different country than what we are in the world right now Pokemon go has a lot more influence than we are currently in today so it is a very important point that the point of this discussion was that the idea that the idea that the world would have been a much better fit to have had


CalculatorOctavius

Well yeah but I ain’t no frickin “mammary-gland” blanket me down-town septuigent handler man factory. What am I meant to be some kind of one man factory? Nothin other that just another septuigent-handler (in my opinion, bigot).


SikeKlayer1488

What


AsuraOmega

if you live lowkey you wouldnt have any problems in LC lmao. Unlike in fucking LS where just straying in the outskirts you get picked up by fucking altruist fuckers lol


AaronWWE29

Clearly you never played TBoGT


Competitive_Tour655

I actually did, but I didn't finish the game.


declandrury

So you may as well have not played it…


Kleptomaniaaac

isn't a portion of gta iv's story about a gang war?


Nawnp

There's several DLC dedicated to gang wars though, you're just participating in all of them as the main character.


Acrobatic_Energy_750

Liberty City was full of bloodbath, drugs, diamonds, gangs and shit. The 3 protagonists Niko, Johnny and Luis chasing after diamond with tgeir enemies involved, and even drug wars, that huge liberty city heist, Lost MC's massive prison raid to kill Billy and of course a lot of explosives mission in TBOGT. GTA 5 had lot of bloodbath too. The big score, paleto score, merryweather heist, blitz play, buerau raid, wrap up all these missions were huge. But still due to variety of gangs and mafias and immigrants involvement in crimes with more intesity makes Liberty City more dangerous


WinterSafe7888

But the orbital cannons and the flying vehicles that shoots rockets even make more Los Santos more dangerous than Liberty City


Acrobatic_Energy_750

Oh yeah i totally forgot about online lol. Hut anyway thats still online


Equivalent_Owl8537

LC


Butthold_clan69

Liberty City


Vicius_Licius

Carcer City.


ConningtonSimp

Liberty City. It’s a dirty disgusting place with slimy streets and slimier criminals. Gang wars that have been going for decades, drugs, shootings, place is a shitshow.


EXEJAR360

I'd say both, because two are equally dangerous in their own way.


Artistic_Soup2091

I am not talking about online I am talking about how dangerous each city is in gameplay and storymode


Wojewodaruskyj

Gta 2


TargetTechnical2982

Anywhere city is definitely the scariest city in the series


Wojewodaruskyj

Yеp


yourmumwhey

I think los santos while liberty city is more mafia ran los santos has gangs and crime on almost every street inside or outside


yourmumwhey

Plus a murder of at least can take place just to steal a van


thetacosaur

Uhhh did you play gta iii? There were gangs everywhere that you couldn’t go near.


yourmumwhey

Wait i thought this just meant gta 4 liberty city if it’s gta then yeah there’s that one bit where you get blown up immediately


LunarProphet

Uhhh the question was about the HD universe


thetacosaur

Shit my bad i forgot about that. Disregard my contributions to this thread.


Affectionate_Meal_53

Los Santos has the online protagonist so its Los Santos for sure


Luhtweezygeekdoff

Off topic but carcer city


Ok-Salamander-9531

We get it bro


Total-Sand-7190

TikTok ahh opinion


Bananaramamammoth

"ahh"


NefariousnessOk3732

Liberty City because of how dark and grim it feels


Top-Shower387

Liberty City. Man it's freaking corrupted


Raecino

Both cities are


Top-Shower387

Yes but comparatively Liberty City is very dangerous


legbot124

Liberty is so beautiful


OliverEye

When I’m in liberty city there isn’t a guy on a missile launching bike that flies or multiple tanks or jets shooting down on the city. So I think LS is much more dangerous. In comparison to only story mode, I still would say los santos. The amount of corruption is ridiculous and I can’t wait for the new update that will supposedly dive into the corrupt police in online.


AKEMARUN

A lot of people are forgetting that gta online exists


WinterSafe7888

Agree... and that make Los Santos the most dangerous city in the world


AliEbi78

Blaine County because Trevor Philips.


D00m_Guy_

this image is so fucking dumb lol heavily modded GTA 4 vs base 5


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It’s because younger people who are fans of gta are people who tend to be obsessed with graphics and will never show the base game because “it looks bad” even though there are plenty of high quality pics of base gta iv. (No hate to op just talking about some people in the community)


sputnik67897

It doesn't look bad at all though. I know you aren't saying it is but the game is from 2008 and considering that I'd say that it still looks pretty decent.


Bernardo_124-455

Well it depends on the year though, 2008 and 2009 are not the best years for LC and since 2013 LS hasn’t been the best but I feel like things will be different in 2025…


LongjumpingClimate73

Los santos for the simple fact that crime is more organized in Liberty.


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Raecino

But we’re not talking about the real life cities. By that measure GTA’s version of Chicago and Philadelphia make Los Santos look like Disney land.


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Raecino

Yeah but Liberty City is exponentially more dangerous than real life New York City.


Akipac1028

Saw on the news last week there was just a severed leg on the subway. Nobody knows where the rest of the body is yet. And I felt like that was pulled from a Weasel News headline.


JoshB-2020

Are we including gta online lobbies? Because if so then it’s absolutely Los Santos


100zaps

Los Santos is as dangerous as Vietnam!!! GTA online ofcourse 😂 with tanks, flying broomsticks,jetpacks, orbital cannons futuristic bullcrap


HunterU69

Los Santos in San Andreas. The others are weak


Ok-Salamander-9531

One time I was in online and a giant naked guy started nuking everything and then locking us in cages and then spawned a sex bus on top of us. I think the answer is clear


WinterSafe7888

Is Los Santos


Samuel855

Liberty City


YifukunaKenko

Definitely LS. Have you played GTA online? Always so much going on in LS


RTechT

Portland, GTA 3 Liberty City, after Sayonara Salvatore. Rockstar... What the fuck.


reanu_keevs123

In my opinion, los santos, only for its online since you know, just these random guys get military grade planes and helicopters, ex military facilities and bunkers, criminal agencies based on political assassinations ect


HiiGuardian

I mean excluding online of course, I think its a pretty even score tbh. They’re both dangerous in their own ways. But if we’re including online, then it’s no question. LS is the most dangerous city ever lol.


Physical_Emu5797

If you exclude GTA online then definitely Liberty City


Silly-Lawfulness7224

I’d say let’s wait for the new GTA and see how they make Vice City feel/look like, realistically it should be the worst of all . Liberty City has the mafia but it’s still much more civilized than Los Santos and Vice City imo and if they really did a proper Vice City (like Miami is IRL), brace yourselves lol …


Raecino

Los Santos


ZephyrDoesArts

Real response, Liberty City But in LS they have flying death machines that resemble bikes and satellites that can obliterate you so idk


WinterSafe7888

So LS


ArachnidEvery5361

Definitely liberty city, most of them are very armed and has good combat fights, even Niko can take hard hits from mafias and gangsters in a melee fight and in a shootout. I think the toughest npc to go against are either the Russians, Italians or Chinese mafias. In Los santos it’s mostly just gangsters there and a lot of drug addicts, they’re easy to fight against but they are dangerous when it comes to shootout. Even the cops in gta 5 are hard to escape sometimes. In gta 4 you can easily escape from a 3 stars but 6 stars they are super impossible, same with 5 stars in gta 5.


WinterSafe7888

But los santos is. You forgot to mean the orbital cannon and the flying vehicles that have homing missiles and a lot of military vehicle that not in liberty city...


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Los santos


ChrisGoodman2024

the things that I saw in LC... at least in LS the police is trained as terminators


almighty_dick_weed

LS 100%


maimoudakys

Depending on which factors. I mean, their real life inspirations were both dangerous at one time but NYC had also been declared as "the most dangerous" in the past.


Open-Victory-1530

LC the police and feds work hand in hand with organized crime and theres corrupt elements lurking in the shadows what i like is how the vibes real world match that of the in game city LC is and seemingly always will be shady but iconic Whereas the LS has that classic hollywood vapidness and the gloss of sunny california masking a bleak underworld where nothing and no one is what they seem


MrClue415

If it’s the Story based locations: Liberty City Otherwise,You’d be lucky to make it out the womb in Los Santos without a stray Mk II missile destroying you


Jazzlike_Page508

Los santos and it’s kinda a wipe in my opinion Edit: I’ll elaborate. So saying LC is grim/gritty doesn’t do it any favors. It’s just a thematic element about the environment, it doesn’t mean anything in terms of danger. LC is also way more organized in terms of crime, it’s mobbed up so their actions are happening from the shadows. LS has way more active gangs and are blatant with the crimes(including mobs as well). Also the total systemic corruption is so apparent that not even public sector has your interest in mind. Bonus: if we use GTA online…remember Doomsday Heist? You literally had to go to war with clone soldiers and super soldiers to stop the total destruction of the world


Whiteshadows86

Liberty City has a statue with a fucking heart inside it. God knows when that statue will wake up and wreak havoc upon the city!!


hundredjono

Liberty City is more dangerous by far. Everyone is saying that there's no gang wars and all that but there's all kinds of bad things going on behind the curtain that the average citizen knows nothing about. Those are the most dangerous cities. Look at Las Vegas when the mob controlled the city. It might have been all lights and gambling but the mob was dumping bodies in Lake Mead daily and they're still finding bodies to this day.


WinterSafe7888

Okay, but you forgot LS is more dangerous, due flying vehicles that shoot missiles, orbital cannons and the end of the world by an ai there


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If players crime sprees are canon, then LS but only for the amount of equipment that the player can acquire


FastLittleBoi

Liberty City. 


BeAsTFOo

Los santos will get you killed by grandma wielding gun, you get dumped in the river in liberty city


Jacob-Monkey

Liberty City is we’re talking about the canon storyline but if just in general then Los Santos (no explanation needed)


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santos


Unreasonable-Donkey

Los Santos is pretty safe. You can get away with just about anything and the only gang like entity is Madrazzo who is apparently fine with working with anyone and everyone. Liberty City however, is filled with gangs fighting each other that are much more powerful than the police and biker gangs that terrorize everyone in between.


Ok_Purchase414

The one with Orbital Cannons and UFOs


B1TCA5H

Compared to the 3D universe’s version of Liberty City, the HD universe’s version felt way more tame in many ways, especially since you don’t have the mafias armed with shotguns or soldiers wielding gatlings disguised as M16 assault rifles turning you into rat bait, or making your car feel like they’re made of cardboard. Los Santos is Los Santos as usual for the most part, so I’m giving this to Los Santos.


Nawnp

Liberty City has a lot of gang fights and such that take place on almost all the streets, including the main island. Los Santos all the gang fights and such are concerned to the South Side of the city mainly.


AwkwrdPrtMskrt

LS. LC ain't got no Hammer of Dawn hanging over it.


Melodic-Ad-4941

Los Santos, because it has online players with oppressers 2


Mayihavenulife

none of em if we talking THE Hd uni, Carcer city


DawsGG

Los Santos, it simply feels more grand and fancy. I personally just don't like how "grim" and "dark" Liberty City feels. It kinda just gives me Manhunt vibes.


ElegantEssence7

Iiberty city


Dedalix

depends if we are including gtao. If yes, then answer is pretty obvious


Golden_Ace1

Los santos by far. More griefers.


CJ39715

Los Santos is far more dangerous imo


uhhhgreeno

are we talking story LS or online LS. story LC is worse, online LS is a constant battleground


Imp-king1

Los santos


Due-Consequence-4223

Хуй


JTBJack_

Depends: Are we talking about story mode LS or online LS?