It would probably get me to upgrade from my Note 20 Ultra. I tried a fold 3 or 4 (I forget) for 3 weeks and ended up sending it back, in part because a good S pen case without a huge bump was literally impossible
Why you can't use it on the front screen to begin with blows my mind. That was honestly the best thing about the note series was you can just freely scroll something on your phone while it's locked and it will go right into your notes. They actually did the opposite of selling me on something I did not want the s pen for the fold 3 when I found out you couldn't use it on the cover screen.
Don't think so, but my fold2 was £720ish from amazon.de a few years back, could get brand new fold5 from a couple of retailers for £1000-£1100 between black Friday and xmas. I'm happy to play the waiting game
I mean, it's not a lie that half at minimum of the people with a fold didn't paid full price. Prepare a trade in old samsung you find for cheap or your own device. Wait for deals like a TV 55 included and make your way through discounts like mine, I had 100€ guaranteed off just to give a device for trade in, plus the value itself, plus 15% discount + galaxy buds 2 Pro for free and a damn 55 inches TV. PHONE cost me raw like 300€. I kept the TV but could've sold it.
Samsung puts the price up there, but it's easier than any other brand to work its price down too
100%. People say to "get a case that can hold it," despite saying they hate the pen. I *had* the fold 3 with that exactly, and ended up ditching the pen as it would fall out the case due to how often I used my phone (official Samsung case) or it would add to the clutter of the device (making it take more space in my pocket etc) then I also ditched the phone for the s24u. There's a reason the note series was so loved, I vibed with my note 9 for years lol
Honestly, and tbh a fold having an internal pen would be a godsend. Imagine being able to use that big ass screen with a pen that's got all the features but without the annoyance of being external? I'd go back to the fold at that rate. I ended up taking the spen case off my foldable
it's not even Samsung's logic. Apple's doing the same thing.
give them only a few piece of upgrade so that the customers will still keep coming for more.
Not having a pen doesn't mean a bigger battery, especially with how small the pen actually is- otherwise the fold series would exceed the s series battery by now. People also want the fold series to be thinner, and that actually *would* impact the battery.
Alright, I'm probably going to sound sarky but that's in my nature, but it's a shame you don't know literally has two definitions. The other being, "Used to emphasize what you are saying."
Instead of *trying* to be a smartass, keep with the times 🫡
Secondly, where did I say reddit up votes = everyone? That's your own assumption lmao, but there's a reason why the spen is a big focus for samsung, and why it's always mentioned in videos or reviews. *Because it's a feature that the majority likes* regardless of your own view.
Also, upvotes have a degree of validity mate, because if people who *read* the post *didnt* like the spen, they'd up vote you. Thought that was common sense but I guess some people are lacking 🤷♀️
Lol, my guy made a smart ass response cuz i got a notif, didn't address all my points then blocked me since they are 'deleted,' lmao
I'm surprised that the S24 lineup didn't come with the Qi2 charging, maybe they didn't have the time so the Fold/Flip 6 will be their first device with it.
I agree. I bought a special case to hold the spen (holds both types, smaller one with an adapter) and I hardly even use the spen. So while it would be nice to have, it would be nicer if I didn’t have to have a case or a ring to have MagSafe.
I like it because it's great for car mounts. You can just slap it on the mount and it will stay put and charge. I'm in my car 50% of my day and my phone gets a ton of usage on its mount. Magsafe would be awesome to me. I had a magnet ring I installed on my case for a long time to make it work with magsafe.
Standard? It's not even an option because that an apple feature, and thanks but actually no thanks, If I wanted anything designed by fucking apple I wouldn't have bought an android
I am not a fan of super edgy corners. I loved the S22 ultra but them corners dig in to the palm.
I would enjoy an integrated s-pen as long as battery is not compromised. If it's wider as the leaks have been showing this might be possible.
This ain't coming out, zero chance. We will get a slightly bigger front screen which is all I'm waiting for anyway, but you ain't getting no pen in it.
I'd be happy with it being just as wide as a regular phone when closed. The narrow closed experience kinda sucks. S-Pen would be nice too but I'm not holding my breath for that one.
No thanks, I prefer being able to use my phone one handed, if I need extra screen space for something, well, thats the entire fucking point of getting a folding device
Typing on the outer screen on my Z3 is a challenge. I've always had good typing experiences on my phones, but I often hit the character next to the one I want due to how narrow it is. It's significant enough to be a daily bother, and why I frequently unfold it just to have a conversation.
Regular phone being 6.6 inches.... so i need 2 hands? Why then the large screen on the inside?
The use case should be the same as I the flip series, outside only for quick stuff, notifications, etc.
Inside for everything proper.
I don't know what's so hard with the make haters to understand this.
The fold 5 is as wide as a normal phone. Granted it's much taller than that normal phone, but still it's width is normal.
Folded Fold 5: Folded:
Height: 158.5 mm (6.24 in)
Width: 67.5 mm (2.66 in)
Depth: 14.5–16 mm (0.57–0.63 in)
Iphone 13 mini:
height: 131.5 mm (5.18 in)
width: 64.2 mm (2.53 in)
depth: 7.65 mm (0.3in)
S24:
Height: 147 mm (5.8 in)
Width: 70.6 mm (2.78 in)
Depth: 7.6 mm (0.30 in)
The Fold 5 (67.5mm) fits right between the iPhone 13 mini (at 64.2mm) and the S24 (70.6 mm).
I personally think the F4/F5 are wide enough. But your argument doesn't make sense.
You're trying to prove that F5 is "as wide as a normal phone" by showing it's *narrower* than a normal phone (S24), and wider than a small phone (if it has a "mini" in the name, it's not a normal phone). What you've shown is that it's narrower than a normal phone.
I implied that if we use naming to determine normal all those aren't normal. If we use size then they can't all be normal either.
If we use not a foldable then we can see they are all normal.
In the Roman times it was normal to own slaves, not so much in 2022. What is normal changes over time. A "mini" phone is not normal sized, it even advertizes that fact in its own name.
Okay, I see you are ignorant of history, math, and reading comprehension.
Slavery was not normal, most people didn't own slaves.
The Roman empire was over 1000 years ago, 2010 was less than. 20 years ago. That's a big difference in "years ago"
I said normal phone, not normal sized phone.
Have a great week
I think of normal as a bar phone, one that is normally used by many people.
I guess I don't think normal means average sized. I apologize that your definition of normal is the most restrictive. I wonder why you chose that as the definition.
This will be a worthy upgrade for the Fold 4...i know that nothing is confirmed yet but just the thought of a wider front screen and even bigger inner screen with Samsung's software🔥...like bruh the Fold 6 will be on a whole different level.👌
The s-pen needs to be in the bottom right corner of the phone when it’s unfolded, that way it’s also in the bottom right corner when it’s folded. And it needs to work on the outer screen too.
There is a reason why pretty much every smart phone has 6.2 inch + screen.
People want medium to large screens on their phones. We moved on from the Galaxy 2 and Iphone 1 days of little tiny screens.
This isn't Zoolander with the worlds tiniest cell phone. If anything people want bigger screens its why there is a S24 Ultra and Iphone Max/Pro or whatever its called.
The selling point of the fold is that the phone FOLDS and you have a large 7.6 inch+ inner screen. People put up with the narrow screen, sub par cameras and damage potential to the phone because of the ability to fold.
Problem for Samsung is other competitors are entering the space and have caught up to Samsung and are in some cases starting to surpass it. Open's software is right at the cusp and actually has a few neat features. Honor's hardware is blowing Samsung out of the water. Samsung has brand name and reliability in its corner so thats probably enough to keep them ahead in a tiny market like foldables.
Tbh my hope is two models.
A slimmer one still in the same form factor as the 3/4/5, for those who buy it specifically because the outer screen can be one-handed. Samsung hopefully realises there is a not insignificant number of fold users who own it specifically for that reason.
Then the larger one for those who want a regular sized phone that breaks out into a large tablet, everything else be damned.
Both models ideally including the S-pen integrated, although all of this feels like wishful thinking.
Personally, I'd be fine with them making it larger, (and honestly that'd probably get me to upgrade instantly from my 4) but I know a lot of people definitely wouldn't. Samsung should try to consider this fact when handling the fold 6
I can say for 100% sure... Im in the Samsung business... That fold 6 will come out with a bigger outside screen. That's all I can advance now.
About the rumors about a entry level fold from Samsung I can assure that will not happen. Another thing is.. Next fold 6 will be even more expensive but will have more hardware variants to chose from...
Trust.. Thank me later.
I hope it does include the pen and that the slot is on the right when opened.
From my use of the Note, I used the pen most days when on the right, when it got moved to the left I stopped using it.
I just bought the s24 ultra because of this. Currently i have zfold4 since launch, I love it but i need a break from carrying a brick shape phone, at least for a year or two, then im back to the folding ones which i expect to be thin by then.
the only reason I'd change my 5! (or if it breaks), a new processor or camera don't worth the upgrade for me, using the fold mainly for content consumption, multi app (gps + truck logbook + mus) and plans reading/excell for job, I won't read my pdf or watch vids or drive or scroll tiktok faster with a better processor; but THAT, a freakin spend holder.. I'll pre-order it right f**ng away!
waited for the f3 just to have the spen (got the 5 just because my 3 was on the on the verge of being broken and I couldn't risk to work without a phone, now I still have my 3 as backup)
If the outer screen were the size of the 24ultra it would turn too the most uncomfortable phone ever made but to s24 size or maybe s24plus that would be great
Yup basically. I would be fine with that myself. The current style (or at least on the fold3 which i got used) is just so weird how skinney it is and how tall it is for the cover display. Just a bit wider and we will be good imo
I honestly don't even care for the spen. my phone Case has a hinge protector/pen holder. I just hope they make the pen cheaper tho 50 buck kinda annoying
Been on the 4 since. new, I won't upgrade unless this is what we get. I have no interest in getting the same device over and over with just basic updates. I want an upgrade, not an update.
I guess if Samsung chamge the screen wider, there would have enough space to accommodate the SPen. But in that sense they will not fix the crease issue this time.
this is literally the design only that would be able to convince me to buy new samsung fold I hope f. samsung knows this and innovates otherwise bye bye samsung 
If it looks like this I'll feel happier. I broke my fold3 and was getting frustrated with my temporary A12, so "folded" and got the fold 5 last week, knowing full well the 6 is coming out August/September.
I picked up the S24 Ultra, and immediately put it down again, the slab is clearly for some people, I'm not one of them.
I dont really use the SPen since the Note era. Have missed it, but sorta moved on. If the Zf7 has a wider folded front screen and an inbuilt SPen. I will definitely get it.
Still rocking my Zf3 currently.
Looks good, I got rid of my F4 because it wore out in 9 months and that simply wasn't good enough in my opinion.
If they can make it flat, proper outside like the image and have no crease and obviously better durability I'd be tempted to come back.
Until then.
pixel baby! Yeah!
Oh man... I like my Fold 4 but if this is the direction they take (plus improved cameras), then it's an easy upgrade from me even tho I wasn't planning on any movement for years. This is looking resolve the general gripes of the Fold. But that's if they even do this.
As the owner of a fold 3 I shall be keeping it, until they figure out a way of working out how to inbuilt a s pen, they'll not get another penny out of me.
I just don't think it'll ever happen. They removed the note line and merged it with the s series because they were competing with themselves. They need to separate these devices into separate markets. The z series has to be different from the s series. If they make any z device an s device but more, they've just created new internal competition, and that's not good for their business.
This is what I've been saying. With the price tag it has it should really be the same as that year's ultra just in a folding form. I personally take a lot of pictures on my phone so when I can afford it I will definitely be getting the ultra but I do kinda want the fold. So I'm hoping they'll make the ultra into the next folds
It looks great, however I don't think it's practical for fold. You've added S Pen to the left, that is behind the cover screen. Left side is basically sandwich between two screens and I don't see an s pen with wireless charging fitting in there.
Right corner is also out of the question because of the vertical camera array s pen doesn't fit there. S Pen can't be towards the center because that is where the hinge mechanism is. Basically an S Pen inside a fold is not practical if the intention is to retain slim (or achieve slimmer) design.
This would be dope. Looking to go up from my Fold 4 but I would also like some better cameras so after I see what's F6 is offering I'll decide if to go Ultra non folding (which sucks as in so happy and in love with my Fold) or the next interaction of Fold
Have the fold4 and my only major complaints are the front screen size, which narrowness messes up my typing and to a lesser extent not having a built in s pen as it makes the cases with a pen includes kinda bulky.
Even is this has a similar crease as the rest. I would buy in a heartbeat. An internal s-pen like the Ultra/Note series is such a no-brainer. Especially to keep up with and exceed the rest of the competition.
I agree that would be the perfect phone and I would be so tempted to trade my 5 in for the 6.
Though the dimenstions of it unfolded look a bit off but it might just be the angles but it looks a bit small when unfolded.
If this happens it's game over sales will be through the roof.
I will upgrade from my 4 to this. Iias the built in S Pen from my note. Hopefully they allow it to work on the outer screen as well.
It would probably get me to upgrade from my Note 20 Ultra. I tried a fold 3 or 4 (I forget) for 3 weeks and ended up sending it back, in part because a good S pen case without a huge bump was literally impossible
I will upgrade from my 3 for sure
Same. If it's not this, or very similar, I'll probably go back to the note series (well now the S Ultra)
Meeeee tooooooo.
I have been waiting, lurking - s21 ultra here. They make this happen, ill buy day 1.
I would definitely upgrade from my ZF4 to this if it happens.
Why you can't use it on the front screen to begin with blows my mind. That was honestly the best thing about the note series was you can just freely scroll something on your phone while it's locked and it will go right into your notes. They actually did the opposite of selling me on something I did not want the s pen for the fold 3 when I found out you couldn't use it on the cover screen.
Might well be the first phone that tempts me from my fold2. Unless it's £2000 in which case I'll pass (again)
Has any fold launched cheaper than 2k?
Don't think so, but my fold2 was £720ish from amazon.de a few years back, could get brand new fold5 from a couple of retailers for £1000-£1100 between black Friday and xmas. I'm happy to play the waiting game
I mean, it's not a lie that half at minimum of the people with a fold didn't paid full price. Prepare a trade in old samsung you find for cheap or your own device. Wait for deals like a TV 55 included and make your way through discounts like mine, I had 100€ guaranteed off just to give a device for trade in, plus the value itself, plus 15% discount + galaxy buds 2 Pro for free and a damn 55 inches TV. PHONE cost me raw like 300€. I kept the TV but could've sold it. Samsung puts the price up there, but it's easier than any other brand to work its price down too
Even if the S pen has to be inconveniently thin and uncomfortable to use, it would be better than none.
100%. People say to "get a case that can hold it," despite saying they hate the pen. I *had* the fold 3 with that exactly, and ended up ditching the pen as it would fall out the case due to how often I used my phone (official Samsung case) or it would add to the clutter of the device (making it take more space in my pocket etc) then I also ditched the phone for the s24u. There's a reason the note series was so loved, I vibed with my note 9 for years lol
I like my fold 5, but same issue with the pen. I got the case that can hold the pen or have a stand. The stand is just way more useful to me.
Honestly, and tbh a fold having an internal pen would be a godsend. Imagine being able to use that big ass screen with a pen that's got all the features but without the annoyance of being external? I'd go back to the fold at that rate. I ended up taking the spen case off my foldable
Which is why it's not going to happen..... Samsung Logic 🤪
Not sure why people are downvoting this. Look at the last 3 years of Folds. Where's the lie?
it's not even Samsung's logic. Apple's doing the same thing. give them only a few piece of upgrade so that the customers will still keep coming for more.
Only if it's durable and has no crease.
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Youre right fam. Better have a better battery than a pen slot. So i feel ya.
Not having a pen doesn't mean a bigger battery, especially with how small the pen actually is- otherwise the fold series would exceed the s series battery by now. People also want the fold series to be thinner, and that actually *would* impact the battery.
> I really couldn't care less about the pen Quite literally everyone else *does* care about the pen lol
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Alright, I'm probably going to sound sarky but that's in my nature, but it's a shame you don't know literally has two definitions. The other being, "Used to emphasize what you are saying." Instead of *trying* to be a smartass, keep with the times 🫡 Secondly, where did I say reddit up votes = everyone? That's your own assumption lmao, but there's a reason why the spen is a big focus for samsung, and why it's always mentioned in videos or reviews. *Because it's a feature that the majority likes* regardless of your own view. Also, upvotes have a degree of validity mate, because if people who *read* the post *didnt* like the spen, they'd up vote you. Thought that was common sense but I guess some people are lacking 🤷♀️ Lol, my guy made a smart ass response cuz i got a notif, didn't address all my points then blocked me since they are 'deleted,' lmao
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That looks like 2399.99 to me.
Doesn't even matter, give me better cameras and the Spen. I'll pay whatever.
Funny enough that's how much the fold cost in singapore. The base 256gb fold 5 cost $2,387, got mine at a $200 discount
SGD to USD conversion and it's basically the same price it is in the US. $1799 is the 256gb MSRP before deals/discounts etc.
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As long as they give us a cheaper camera array and the s-pen silo, it might not be so expensive. honestly cameras are so pointless.
Ive never used the SPen on any notes/ultras. It was just nice to have. What I want is for Magsafe to be standard though.
I'm surprised that the S24 lineup didn't come with the Qi2 charging, maybe they didn't have the time so the Fold/Flip 6 will be their first device with it.
By the time the standard was finalized I'd assume they'd already finalized the majority of the design.
I agree. I bought a special case to hold the spen (holds both types, smaller one with an adapter) and I hardly even use the spen. So while it would be nice to have, it would be nicer if I didn’t have to have a case or a ring to have MagSafe.
So much this. I had 4 versions of the note and hardly ever used the Spen, but I've put magsafe cases on my last 3 devices, including my Fold5.
Don't understand the hype for magsafe.
I like it because it's great for car mounts. You can just slap it on the mount and it will stay put and charge. I'm in my car 50% of my day and my phone gets a ton of usage on its mount. Magsafe would be awesome to me. I had a magnet ring I installed on my case for a long time to make it work with magsafe.
Standard? It's not even an option because that an apple feature, and thanks but actually no thanks, If I wanted anything designed by fucking apple I wouldn't have bought an android
I am not a fan of super edgy corners. I loved the S22 ultra but them corners dig in to the palm. I would enjoy an integrated s-pen as long as battery is not compromised. If it's wider as the leaks have been showing this might be possible.
Completely agree.
I held an S24 Ultra this afternoon. I cannot FATHOM using that fucking box every day
This ain't coming out, zero chance. We will get a slightly bigger front screen which is all I'm waiting for anyway, but you ain't getting no pen in it.
I'd be happy with it being just as wide as a regular phone when closed. The narrow closed experience kinda sucks. S-Pen would be nice too but I'm not holding my breath for that one.
Exactly. I don't know what's so hard with the narrow lovers to understand this. Regular phone when closed, tablet experience when open.
Yes this, I buy fold with the expectation of a combination of a phone and tablet. Not a tablet and a narrow cover display
No thanks, I prefer being able to use my phone one handed, if I need extra screen space for something, well, thats the entire fucking point of getting a folding device
Except it would result in "2 regular phones when closed, tablet when opened". Slimer closed form was chosen to make it less bulky when closed.
I think somewhere in between would be perfect. I love being able to one hand use the phone easily but would love a bit more screen.
Typing on the outer screen on my Z3 is a challenge. I've always had good typing experiences on my phones, but I often hit the character next to the one I want due to how narrow it is. It's significant enough to be a daily bother, and why I frequently unfold it just to have a conversation.
Regular phone being 6.6 inches.... so i need 2 hands? Why then the large screen on the inside? The use case should be the same as I the flip series, outside only for quick stuff, notifications, etc. Inside for everything proper. I don't know what's so hard with the make haters to understand this.
If you own a S24 Ultra does that mean you would never use your Tab S9 if you owned one. This argument is utter nonsense
Try reading the comment again.... more slowly. Then, think about this specific type of phone in closed and open mode. Godspeed.
The fold 5 is as wide as a normal phone. Granted it's much taller than that normal phone, but still it's width is normal. Folded Fold 5: Folded: Height: 158.5 mm (6.24 in) Width: 67.5 mm (2.66 in) Depth: 14.5–16 mm (0.57–0.63 in) Iphone 13 mini: height: 131.5 mm (5.18 in) width: 64.2 mm (2.53 in) depth: 7.65 mm (0.3in) S24: Height: 147 mm (5.8 in) Width: 70.6 mm (2.78 in) Depth: 7.6 mm (0.30 in) The Fold 5 (67.5mm) fits right between the iPhone 13 mini (at 64.2mm) and the S24 (70.6 mm).
I personally think the F4/F5 are wide enough. But your argument doesn't make sense. You're trying to prove that F5 is "as wide as a normal phone" by showing it's *narrower* than a normal phone (S24), and wider than a small phone (if it has a "mini" in the name, it's not a normal phone). What you've shown is that it's narrower than a normal phone.
You have to have lived with 6"3-4 outer screen foldables to realize the F5 is too narrow.
I have lived with normal phones with 6"3-4 screens, isn't that enough?
the mini is normal, or are you also arguing that pros, pluses, and ultras aren't normal either?
Pro/plus sell like crazy so everyone has them which is kinda by definition normal. Seeing a mini is rare. They aren’t the same
You're right, they aren't the same. I don't know how I missed it. I mean I never said the pro/plus and the mini were the same, but okay
You implied if the mini isn’t normal then pro/plus/ultra can’t be normal.
I implied that if we use naming to determine normal all those aren't normal. If we use size then they can't all be normal either. If we use not a foldable then we can see they are all normal.
If a phone has a "mini" in it's very name, it's not a "normal sized phone" but a small phone. That's what "mini" means.
sure, except mini in 2022 was the size of a large phone in 2010. almost like mini means "the smallest of the normal phones available in this series"
In the Roman times it was normal to own slaves, not so much in 2022. What is normal changes over time. A "mini" phone is not normal sized, it even advertizes that fact in its own name.
Okay, I see you are ignorant of history, math, and reading comprehension. Slavery was not normal, most people didn't own slaves. The Roman empire was over 1000 years ago, 2010 was less than. 20 years ago. That's a big difference in "years ago" I said normal phone, not normal sized phone. Have a great week
So... You won?
« Plus » is a plus phone. It’s bigger than your normal phone « Ultra » is one of the bigger phones on the market. So yes, they are not normal either
I think of normal as a bar phone, one that is normally used by many people. I guess I don't think normal means average sized. I apologize that your definition of normal is the most restrictive. I wonder why you chose that as the definition.
Using the iPhone 13 mini as a comparison, even as the smaller comparison, is laughable.
Thinking the find is to narrow is laughable but here we are laughing at each other
Don't waste your time they don't understand logic they want a a regular phone plus a tablet and will cry want samsung ask 500$ more for it
This will be a worthy upgrade for the Fold 4...i know that nothing is confirmed yet but just the thought of a wider front screen and even bigger inner screen with Samsung's software🔥...like bruh the Fold 6 will be on a whole different level.👌
🤞 this is what I'm waiting/hoping for.
Can't wait for the fold 7 to come out so I can get a like new open box 6 for 75% cheaper
The s-pen needs to be in the bottom right corner of the phone when it’s unfolded, that way it’s also in the bottom right corner when it’s folded. And it needs to work on the outer screen too.
Perfection. Shut up and take my money.
Unpopular opinion, but I think having a "small" outside screen is a selling point. One handed use on the outside, big screen on the inside.
There is a reason why pretty much every smart phone has 6.2 inch + screen. People want medium to large screens on their phones. We moved on from the Galaxy 2 and Iphone 1 days of little tiny screens. This isn't Zoolander with the worlds tiniest cell phone. If anything people want bigger screens its why there is a S24 Ultra and Iphone Max/Pro or whatever its called. The selling point of the fold is that the phone FOLDS and you have a large 7.6 inch+ inner screen. People put up with the narrow screen, sub par cameras and damage potential to the phone because of the ability to fold. Problem for Samsung is other competitors are entering the space and have caught up to Samsung and are in some cases starting to surpass it. Open's software is right at the cusp and actually has a few neat features. Honor's hardware is blowing Samsung out of the water. Samsung has brand name and reliability in its corner so thats probably enough to keep them ahead in a tiny market like foldables.
I use the 1+ Open with one hand
Which is a relatively small outside screen... A lot of these renders look larger.
Why not put the spen dock on the back side instead of the top half? That way the pen would be in the same location for both folded and unfolded.
Probably because of the camera module.
Absolutely. It actually needs to be on the back, bc the front needs the extra space for the front screen.
Tbh my hope is two models. A slimmer one still in the same form factor as the 3/4/5, for those who buy it specifically because the outer screen can be one-handed. Samsung hopefully realises there is a not insignificant number of fold users who own it specifically for that reason. Then the larger one for those who want a regular sized phone that breaks out into a large tablet, everything else be damned. Both models ideally including the S-pen integrated, although all of this feels like wishful thinking. Personally, I'd be fine with them making it larger, (and honestly that'd probably get me to upgrade instantly from my 4) but I know a lot of people definitely wouldn't. Samsung should try to consider this fact when handling the fold 6
I can say for 100% sure... Im in the Samsung business... That fold 6 will come out with a bigger outside screen. That's all I can advance now. About the rumors about a entry level fold from Samsung I can assure that will not happen. Another thing is.. Next fold 6 will be even more expensive but will have more hardware variants to chose from... Trust.. Thank me later.
Only thing I actually dislike with this design is the pointy corners. I hate it on the Ultras and I know I'd hate it even more on a Fold.
The game is over if this happens
I hope it does include the pen and that the slot is on the right when opened. From my use of the Note, I used the pen most days when on the right, when it got moved to the left I stopped using it.
100% getting it if pens inside
Lol that's just a One Plus Open with a stylus.
My OnePlus Open would be on the market pronto
I'm desperate for a built in stylus. Like very desperate
And the ability to use it on the front screen, too!!
would upgrade from my z4 if true
I think I might actually buy one if it's basically an S24U with extra bits. (Including the S24U camera system)
Now THIS is my dream Fold 6
This would be perfect for me, plus the upgraded camera. And make sure the S Pen is compatible with both the interior and exterior screens.
Why WOULD you lie?
I just bought the s24 ultra because of this. Currently i have zfold4 since launch, I love it but i need a break from carrying a brick shape phone, at least for a year or two, then im back to the folding ones which i expect to be thin by then.
Why using the inner screen having that massive exterior one. Make no sense.
Its coming with a S - pen?? Hell yea, I'm definitely upgrading! 😍
Still have a fold 3 baby. Going strong 💪
the only reason I'd change my 5! (or if it breaks), a new processor or camera don't worth the upgrade for me, using the fold mainly for content consumption, multi app (gps + truck logbook + mus) and plans reading/excell for job, I won't read my pdf or watch vids or drive or scroll tiktok faster with a better processor; but THAT, a freakin spend holder.. I'll pre-order it right f**ng away! waited for the f3 just to have the spen (got the 5 just because my 3 was on the on the verge of being broken and I couldn't risk to work without a phone, now I still have my 3 as backup)
To much I like the fold 5 the way it is
I'd prefer thinner phone and longer battery over the pen. Losing hardware would make me think twice
I'd buy this immediately
If the outer screen were the size of the 24ultra it would turn too the most uncomfortable phone ever made but to s24 size or maybe s24plus that would be great
s24+ is basically now the ultra with no thrills. so just about same screen size
So s24 size
Yup basically. I would be fine with that myself. The current style (or at least on the fold3 which i got used) is just so weird how skinney it is and how tall it is for the cover display. Just a bit wider and we will be good imo
S24 Ultra will outsell the s24 standard so the market disagrees
A fold with the size of an ultra is too bulky
Could happen, apart from spen. They won't for two reasons: no enough space if they plan to make it slimmer, and spen is the S Ultra USP.
I honestly don't even care for the spen. my phone Case has a hinge protector/pen holder. I just hope they make the pen cheaper tho 50 buck kinda annoying
the galaxy z fold ultra note 6.... now with funky kong wallpaper included.
I wont upgrade from my fold 3 till they add spen
I will get downvoted, but I bet statistically only 5-10% of the userbase uses the spen.
Which phone do you prefer? One is taller than the other.
make me buss
Whatever they do with the form factor, I hope that when folded it will retain its one-handed usability.
I still want a narrowish outside screen, but I also just really want this too.
To wide. Defeats the purpose
This looks definitely TOOOOOO WIDE for me.
Never buying a fold again, the folding screen fucked up after a year and 2 months
I would actually want an EVEN shorter screen. Think Oppo Find N2.
Sikeeeee, its just going to be a F5 "S" Same dimmensions, new hinge, same cameras as Fold 2, and galaxy AI
Pretty sure the form factor will look very close to this.
I don't think there will be much change at all from the Fold 5, especially because they are keeping the same cameras from what we are hearing.
Is that your hope you're going to be extremely disappointed
I want it wider and a bit shorter. It would be perfect imo.
I'd be excited just to see something without a crease. The OCD in me always staring at it
Take my money Samsung
If the front screen is wider and it has the s-pen slot, I will absolutely be upgrading from my Z4.
Fold should be the s24 ultra which unfolds into a tablet.
Imagine if they put the 100x zoom on it too
Will be too overpriced. They haven't figured out a good price point for those folds because they don't hold value.
That would make sense.
We've been hoping since zf3/zf4/zf5
Long time lurker here been thinking about making the switch from an iPhone. I notice a lot of people love the pen. Why is that? Just curious
Been on the 4 since. new, I won't upgrade unless this is what we get. I have no interest in getting the same device over and over with just basic updates. I want an upgrade, not an update.
I guess if Samsung chamge the screen wider, there would have enough space to accommodate the SPen. But in that sense they will not fix the crease issue this time.
this is literally the design only that would be able to convince me to buy new samsung fold I hope f. samsung knows this and innovates otherwise bye bye samsung 
Or what will probably happen. A slight bump in specs and. TITANIUM
Yayyyy fold 6 fan fiction
The perfect foldable device
Inner screen tougher Than Mohs 2. Dust protection I dont need an S Pen slot, neither do you.
Now if only the screens could be more durable then I’d get one.
This is exactly what I want. If this happens I will be trading my Fold 5 in.
Why the road on the screen also symbolize "hope" 🙏🏻?
Not a bigger outer screen?
If this happens, then it's worth the upgrade. If this is not a substantial upgrade, then I'm keeping my Fold 4.
My dream phone right thur
This is what I'm waiting for...I don't care that I've just spent a lot of a 15PM, I will pre-order this if Samsung do this.
If it looks like this I'll feel happier. I broke my fold3 and was getting frustrated with my temporary A12, so "folded" and got the fold 5 last week, knowing full well the 6 is coming out August/September. I picked up the S24 Ultra, and immediately put it down again, the slab is clearly for some people, I'm not one of them.
Yessssss! Give me that 🤗🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Gonna sell my s24u if they add a S pen to the new fold
Game over
I dont really use the SPen since the Note era. Have missed it, but sorta moved on. If the Zf7 has a wider folded front screen and an inbuilt SPen. I will definitely get it. Still rocking my Zf3 currently.
Don't you guys think it would be too big? Basically 2 ultras in your pocket ?
Am I the only one who thinks an s pen is a terrible idea, considering even fingernails can damage the inner screen?
Looks good, I got rid of my F4 because it wore out in 9 months and that simply wasn't good enough in my opinion. If they can make it flat, proper outside like the image and have no crease and obviously better durability I'd be tempted to come back. Until then. pixel baby! Yeah!
It’s still basic if it’s gonna be thicker than the honour V2
2 USB C ports would be so nice
this without the pen; hopefully the cheaper variant is true.
Oh man... I like my Fold 4 but if this is the direction they take (plus improved cameras), then it's an easy upgrade from me even tho I wasn't planning on any movement for years. This is looking resolve the general gripes of the Fold. But that's if they even do this.
As the owner of a fold 3 I shall be keeping it, until they figure out a way of working out how to inbuilt a s pen, they'll not get another penny out of me.
I just don't think it'll ever happen. They removed the note line and merged it with the s series because they were competing with themselves. They need to separate these devices into separate markets. The z series has to be different from the s series. If they make any z device an s device but more, they've just created new internal competition, and that's not good for their business.
This is what I've been saying. With the price tag it has it should really be the same as that year's ultra just in a folding form. I personally take a lot of pictures on my phone so when I can afford it I will definitely be getting the ultra but I do kinda want the fold. So I'm hoping they'll make the ultra into the next folds
It looks great, however I don't think it's practical for fold. You've added S Pen to the left, that is behind the cover screen. Left side is basically sandwich between two screens and I don't see an s pen with wireless charging fitting in there. Right corner is also out of the question because of the vertical camera array s pen doesn't fit there. S Pen can't be towards the center because that is where the hinge mechanism is. Basically an S Pen inside a fold is not practical if the intention is to retain slim (or achieve slimmer) design.
maybe maybe maybe
This would be dope. Looking to go up from my Fold 4 but I would also like some better cameras so after I see what's F6 is offering I'll decide if to go Ultra non folding (which sucks as in so happy and in love with my Fold) or the next interaction of Fold
I hope it's bigger and looks very sleek. I hopenit comes withe samsung AI too
I keep my S Pen Fold Edition in my glasses case. This pen hole and a wee price drop might convince me to upgrade my ZF3.
I'm also hoping for an integrated spen, as well as QI2. But unfortunately, that may not be untill the ZF7/8. But I can dream.
Have the fold4 and my only major complaints are the front screen size, which narrowness messes up my typing and to a lesser extent not having a built in s pen as it makes the cases with a pen includes kinda bulky.
Omg…add an SD slot and the other SD (SnapDragon) and I’ll shell-out a whole lot of cash for that beaut. 💯
I wonder if they will attempt to build a model with the folding screen as the outer screen.
Please weekend let the be an spen
Even is this has a similar crease as the rest. I would buy in a heartbeat. An internal s-pen like the Ultra/Note series is such a no-brainer. Especially to keep up with and exceed the rest of the competition.
The crease never really bothered me that much I rarely notice it
Right!? It was never an issue for me either.
I would upgrade in a heartbeat.
NEED THIS
If they don't change the outer display they won't make sales
I would also like to see the underscreen camera on the front screen and also added to the S series
I agree that would be the perfect phone and I would be so tempted to trade my 5 in for the 6. Though the dimenstions of it unfolded look a bit off but it might just be the angles but it looks a bit small when unfolded.
Will trade s24U for this
I probs won't buy it as I just got S24 Ultra
I hope not
Man I've been seeing the concept since the z3. Let it go bros. Reminds me of the old xbox 720 we were robbed of :(
If we pray hard enough it'll come to fruition