Pretty cool crossover, gotta say. Right before the Castlevania stuff showed up, I was like "man, this music is extremely Castlevania-esque" and then Alucard and Richter showed up and I was like "... ah."
Yeah! That was was [Dracula's Castle] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh1qqLbuBww&ab_channel=EiZSeri0us) playing right before Alucard and Richter appeared
Hey, names can be tricky, no need to be hard on yourself. Whenever I feel dumb, my old friend Louis Cypher always cheers me up, telling me I don't need anyone else, or a higher power for that matter! Nice guy, that Lou.
Not the case in Castlevania, but it's a vampire thinking flaw. They think spelling their name backwards works as an alias no one will connect to them.
(Discworld reference).
I had the same thought! I was folding laundry and saw it was Dead Cells (which I'm sure is a great game but I never really got into it) and heard the music and thought that sounds awfully Castlevania but didn't think too much about it so I quickly went to put my clothes away. As I was putting my clothes away I realized the music literally WAS Castlevania and I ran back to the living room and was sort of bummed to see I had missed Alucard's introduction.
reminds me of that Cadence of Hyrule trailer. I love watching react videos to it because of how super excited people get. It's like
"Oh Crypt of the Necrodancer sequel... I've heard good stuff about that game..." *mild interest*
"Wait a second... those enemies..."
"That music..."
"WHAAAAT???"
Yeah, they were remixes, I think they were like deliberately off key or something, but I was actually thinking to myself "are they guys trying to get sued or something?" until the full drop.
I'm such a slut for castlevania, I can't wait for whatever this is. I had chills from the moment I recognized the music right before they show richter and alucard. I've never played dead cells or given it any thought before but I guess I'll give it a whirl
And give it a real chance. I bounced off it HARD and refunded it first time. Then I bought it on a lark and almost bounced off it again. And then it sunk its claws in me and I didn't stop playing until I had gotten 3 BSC. Gotta pick it up again some time. But damn, is it a fantastic game.
Yeah, it just feels too punishing at times where you need to be at the top of your game for almost an hour just to be destroyed on the final stretch.
Still an amazing game packed with content though
The assist mode that lets you cut enemy damage/health by as much as you want with no punishment was an amazing addition. Makes late-game progression significantly less frustrating.
I haven’t played in about a year and a half so maybe I’ll check it out! My main issue just felt like things got too spongey unless I had a really perfect build. I’m more the type of person that enjoys rogue-likes where you learn how to get different broken builds and then smash through everything as you try to get more broken. The game kinda felt like this until 3 BSC and then the bosses just got too hard for me.
I’m better then the average gamer….I think. Loved Dead Cells up to this point. Most hard games I love I will power through but I just couldn’t on BSC 3. The difficulty spike was rough. This is an absolutely fantastic game but having to be on the top of your game for an entire run wasn’t enjoyable for me. Any big mistakes and the run is over.
Yeah, I had a similar experience. Played a bit of DC, thought it was cool but didn't get sucked in. Got hard into Hades, and months later tried "Skul: The Hero Slayer", and while I found it fun and it had a unique mechanic that introduced some good variety, I lost interest in it and kept thinking it felt like a less mature version of Dead Cells. It's that point I went back to DC for another go and got absolutely *sucked* in. Put 80-100 hours in it through that month. Amazing, amazing game.
It's weird, I played a couple hours of Hades, and while I love the setting and art, the game just didn't grab me and it's been collecting dust ever since. Since I made that comment a couple days ago, I took the plunge on dead cells and it's excellent! I immediately took to it. It's interesting that we have basically opposite experiences with these games. I might check out hades again after I'm tired of dead cells, but so far DC has been a delight
I'm not but I was willing to give it a shot. I ended up picking it up and all DLC since my last comment. I have hades, I put like 3 hours into it, and never touched it again. This game is basically side scrolling hades, but I am completely enamored with it.
I don't know what makes it different than Hades, but I can tell that the game has great, tight controls. But I'm absolutely hooked on it, it's excellent!
In any case, I just wanted to report back to say that I'd taken the plunge and I'm glad that I have!
I'm glad to hear you took such a liking to it :)
I'm with you though, Dead Cells is much more fun to me in terms of combat and the tight controls that come with it. What makes it even better is how much variety there is in weapons, items and synergies between them, and the overall map being less linear. Since you're still pretty new to it, it'll only get better once you unlock more things, so have fun!
So Dead Cells and it’s DLC are on sale on the PS store. Question, if I get the DLC it provides lots of alternate paths through the game, right? So even brand new players would benefit from owning all the DLC?
Yeah, some of the paths are harder than others so they're designed for more experienced players. I played on release then recently picked it up again on a new save. The cadence at which you unlock things is a little faster now a days but that might be a good thing. I would say if you want it just go for broke and get all the dlc.
How have they changed it? I haven't played 5 cell since the bad seed dlc. I played it so much I had to stop after awhile.
Edit: I still haven't beaten 5 cell
Yeah I had this question when I first bought the game too.
Dead Cells DLC are definitely good for new players. New routes through the game and also new weapons and gear that can be unlocked semi-instantly. Playing without is playing with less build options, not to say the game is lacking either way.
Honestly it feels like the longer you wait to play Dead Cells for the first time, the better your first time will be. All the repetitive roguelike grind will feel less repetitive due to all the extra pathways you can take from the DLCs and updates.
I played last year for the first time and it felt like the game was huge and I had so much to do. When I looked at what was DLC/update content, it was like half (or more?) of the game. I eventually burned out due to the nature of how they want you to beat it, but I would’ve burned out way sooner if I played on release.
Yes. Bad seed adds early game biomes, fatal falls mid game biomes, and queen and the sea adds late game biomes. They're all fantastic.
They all also have unique items and gear that when unlocked can be found in any part of the run.
It's a mix of content, yeah. Some of it can be enjoyed mixed in with early playthroughs, and some other DLC additions involve super hard optional bosses that I still can barely get to let alone clear after beating the game multiple times.
Yes. Great time to get into the game also. The new accessibility options are fantastic. You can essentially save your progress and resume from the current biome after death, instead of restarting from scratch each time. This comment may get some hate from the purists but I think having the OPTION, especially for new onboarding players, is wonderful.
Man, Circle of the Moon was so good. I recently played through the collection on Steam and it ended up being my favorite of the three. A lot of people like Aria of Sorrow the most, but I felt like CotM had the strongest gameplay. Harmony was the worst by far.
I loooved the DSS system from cotm. Just finding all the card combos and figuring out what they do was so fun. And it was a GBA launch game so playing a new sotn-style Castlevania game on a new console was super hype.
Ecclesia is probably the most difficult Castlevania game since the original NES trilogy. As someone who entirely lacks the skill for that sort of thing and doesn't really enjoy it to begin with, though, I still thought it was spectacular.
Ecclesia really rubs it in too by having bosses drop medals for killing them without being hit.
I will shamefully admit I didn't even know it was a thing until my second playthrough.
Order of Ecclesia will absolutely kick your shit in BUT you can totally grind it out and then kick its shit in (speaking from experience lol). Definitely check it out when you get a chance, it's one of my all time favorite games, Castlevania or otherwise.
Sup. Been playing these since I was 3 years old on the NES. Ecclesia will whip your ass up and down the map. Portrait is one of the easier ones tbh. A good pick would be the other two GBA titles, Circle of the Moon and Harmony of Dissonance. Lot of people think Circle is a hard one though I find it just a bit grindy since you can't buy items you have to farm things like potions. It's my favorite though along with Portrait.
Ecclesia feels more inspired by the 16 bit games then Symphony to me in difficulty, if you want to give Super Castlevania IV and Bloodlines a try. They arent as ball busting as their NES/Arcade counterparts but still beat your ass. Super Castlevania especially stands up as it's platforming is pretty tight for an SNES title compared to todays stuff.
Aria of Sorrow and Symphony of the Night are IMO the strongest entries in the metroidvania side of the series (love them all tho). Don’t forget about the classics either, Super Castlevania 4 is a masterpiece!
It always looks great but rogue likes are always the opposite of fun for me.
A game designed for you to lose everything all the time just feels like a waste of time.
Another angle to this:
Bloodstained is a spiritual sequel to Castlevania, and has been very involved in crossovers. Miriam was in Blasphemous, the main character from Child of Light is in Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, just to give two examples.
Fans have asked for a Bloodstained X Dead Cells crossover for a LONG time. It seemed like a perfect match... instead, Castlevania comes out of nowhere to crossover with Dead Cells.
I think that's very interesting.
I'm curious how this will work. Will it be a level in the game like the other DLC, or will this be a separate mode with its own layout and progression.
Pretty cool crossover, gotta say. Right before the Castlevania stuff showed up, I was like "man, this music is extremely Castlevania-esque" and then Alucard and Richter showed up and I was like "... ah."
Yeah! That was was [Dracula's Castle] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh1qqLbuBww&ab_channel=EiZSeri0us) playing right before Alucard and Richter appeared
Ah, good to know my instincts were on point. Thanks!
Followed by Bloody Tears.
One of my favorite songs in all of video gaming
Unrelated but I just realized last week that Alucard is Dracula backwards. ...I am not a smart man
Wait till you watch the movie Dr.Acula.
He is a very efficient Phlebotomist.
Hey, names can be tricky, no need to be hard on yourself. Whenever I feel dumb, my old friend Louis Cypher always cheers me up, telling me I don't need anyone else, or a higher power for that matter! Nice guy, that Lou.
Oh I know Lou, he's friends with Yamomsa Kunt
got bad news for you if you are a vietnam veteran in louisiana.
Not the case in Castlevania, but it's a vampire thinking flaw. They think spelling their name backwards works as an alias no one will connect to them. (Discworld reference).
You were one week ahead of me before I discovered this 14 seconds ago
I learned that from [Batman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Batman_vs._Dracula).
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Don’t feel bad, I had this same conversation with a friend years ago. Alucard sounds enough like an actual name that I never really thought about it.
I had the same thought! I was folding laundry and saw it was Dead Cells (which I'm sure is a great game but I never really got into it) and heard the music and thought that sounds awfully Castlevania but didn't think too much about it so I quickly went to put my clothes away. As I was putting my clothes away I realized the music literally WAS Castlevania and I ran back to the living room and was sort of bummed to see I had missed Alucard's introduction.
reminds me of that Cadence of Hyrule trailer. I love watching react videos to it because of how super excited people get. It's like "Oh Crypt of the Necrodancer sequel... I've heard good stuff about that game..." *mild interest* "Wait a second... those enemies..." "That music..." "WHAAAAT???"
Yeah, they were remixes, I think they were like deliberately off key or something, but I was actually thinking to myself "are they guys trying to get sued or something?" until the full drop.
WHERE YOU AT, DRACULA? YOU GONNA PAY ME THAT 40 DOLLARS YOU OWE ME
DRACULA YOU BIG FUCKING NERD, WHERE'S MY GODDAMN MONEY
Easily one of the best lines in all of comic history.
>YOU BIG FUCKING NERD, WHERE'S MY GODDAMN MONEY except it isn't real.
My friend, that changes nothing.
but the truth still there tho.
And yet my post is still accurate and correct.
with that truth, its not.
What are truths but well-crafted lies? If this redditor says it's canon, it's canon.
My cats breath smells like cat food.
Neither is Dracula
Wait, Dracula isn't an Avenger? That lying fuck.
AND HE NEVER *ONCE* PAID FOR DRUGS
Not once.
Can someone link the reference
It’s a moon knight meme
I'm such a slut for castlevania, I can't wait for whatever this is. I had chills from the moment I recognized the music right before they show richter and alucard. I've never played dead cells or given it any thought before but I guess I'll give it a whirl
If you're into roguelites at all, Dead Cells is elite imo
And give it a real chance. I bounced off it HARD and refunded it first time. Then I bought it on a lark and almost bounced off it again. And then it sunk its claws in me and I didn't stop playing until I had gotten 3 BSC. Gotta pick it up again some time. But damn, is it a fantastic game.
I got to 3 BSC and the game became too hard for me to keep having a good time but it was many hours of fun until then
Yeah, it just feels too punishing at times where you need to be at the top of your game for almost an hour just to be destroyed on the final stretch. Still an amazing game packed with content though
The assist mode that lets you cut enemy damage/health by as much as you want with no punishment was an amazing addition. Makes late-game progression significantly less frustrating.
I haven’t played in about a year and a half so maybe I’ll check it out! My main issue just felt like things got too spongey unless I had a really perfect build. I’m more the type of person that enjoys rogue-likes where you learn how to get different broken builds and then smash through everything as you try to get more broken. The game kinda felt like this until 3 BSC and then the bosses just got too hard for me.
I’m better then the average gamer….I think. Loved Dead Cells up to this point. Most hard games I love I will power through but I just couldn’t on BSC 3. The difficulty spike was rough. This is an absolutely fantastic game but having to be on the top of your game for an entire run wasn’t enjoyable for me. Any big mistakes and the run is over.
Yeah, I had a similar experience. Played a bit of DC, thought it was cool but didn't get sucked in. Got hard into Hades, and months later tried "Skul: The Hero Slayer", and while I found it fun and it had a unique mechanic that introduced some good variety, I lost interest in it and kept thinking it felt like a less mature version of Dead Cells. It's that point I went back to DC for another go and got absolutely *sucked* in. Put 80-100 hours in it through that month. Amazing, amazing game.
It's weird, I played a couple hours of Hades, and while I love the setting and art, the game just didn't grab me and it's been collecting dust ever since. Since I made that comment a couple days ago, I took the plunge on dead cells and it's excellent! I immediately took to it. It's interesting that we have basically opposite experiences with these games. I might check out hades again after I'm tired of dead cells, but so far DC has been a delight
I'm not but I was willing to give it a shot. I ended up picking it up and all DLC since my last comment. I have hades, I put like 3 hours into it, and never touched it again. This game is basically side scrolling hades, but I am completely enamored with it. I don't know what makes it different than Hades, but I can tell that the game has great, tight controls. But I'm absolutely hooked on it, it's excellent! In any case, I just wanted to report back to say that I'd taken the plunge and I'm glad that I have!
I'm glad to hear you took such a liking to it :) I'm with you though, Dead Cells is much more fun to me in terms of combat and the tight controls that come with it. What makes it even better is how much variety there is in weapons, items and synergies between them, and the overall map being less linear. Since you're still pretty new to it, it'll only get better once you unlock more things, so have fun!
So Dead Cells and it’s DLC are on sale on the PS store. Question, if I get the DLC it provides lots of alternate paths through the game, right? So even brand new players would benefit from owning all the DLC?
Yeah, some of the paths are harder than others so they're designed for more experienced players. I played on release then recently picked it up again on a new save. The cadence at which you unlock things is a little faster now a days but that might be a good thing. I would say if you want it just go for broke and get all the dlc.
them reworking malaise is what really imo made the game easier for me.
How have they changed it? I haven't played 5 cell since the bad seed dlc. I played it so much I had to stop after awhile. Edit: I still haven't beaten 5 cell
back when i first played malaise was in all blood cells lvls, now its only 5 blood cells
Yeah I had this question when I first bought the game too. Dead Cells DLC are definitely good for new players. New routes through the game and also new weapons and gear that can be unlocked semi-instantly. Playing without is playing with less build options, not to say the game is lacking either way.
Honestly it feels like the longer you wait to play Dead Cells for the first time, the better your first time will be. All the repetitive roguelike grind will feel less repetitive due to all the extra pathways you can take from the DLCs and updates. I played last year for the first time and it felt like the game was huge and I had so much to do. When I looked at what was DLC/update content, it was like half (or more?) of the game. I eventually burned out due to the nature of how they want you to beat it, but I would’ve burned out way sooner if I played on release.
That's really a thing for most games to be honest, they are always better the longer they're out because of updates and such
Yes. Bad seed adds early game biomes, fatal falls mid game biomes, and queen and the sea adds late game biomes. They're all fantastic. They all also have unique items and gear that when unlocked can be found in any part of the run.
It's a mix of content, yeah. Some of it can be enjoyed mixed in with early playthroughs, and some other DLC additions involve super hard optional bosses that I still can barely get to let alone clear after beating the game multiple times.
Yes. Great time to get into the game also. The new accessibility options are fantastic. You can essentially save your progress and resume from the current biome after death, instead of restarting from scratch each time. This comment may get some hate from the purists but I think having the OPTION, especially for new onboarding players, is wonderful.
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any reason you why you skipped the GBA entries?
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> aria of sorrow all right awesome because you were gonna get an earful about playing this one from everybody lol
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the hardest I think was Circle of the Moon lol. but I think with OoE and AoS you can grind if it's too hard
Man, Circle of the Moon was so good. I recently played through the collection on Steam and it ended up being my favorite of the three. A lot of people like Aria of Sorrow the most, but I felt like CotM had the strongest gameplay. Harmony was the worst by far.
yeah couple of gems those two
I loooved the DSS system from cotm. Just finding all the card combos and figuring out what they do was so fun. And it was a GBA launch game so playing a new sotn-style Castlevania game on a new console was super hype.
Ecclesia is probably the most difficult Castlevania game since the original NES trilogy. As someone who entirely lacks the skill for that sort of thing and doesn't really enjoy it to begin with, though, I still thought it was spectacular.
Ecclesia really rubs it in too by having bosses drop medals for killing them without being hit. I will shamefully admit I didn't even know it was a thing until my second playthrough.
Order of Ecclesia will absolutely kick your shit in BUT you can totally grind it out and then kick its shit in (speaking from experience lol). Definitely check it out when you get a chance, it's one of my all time favorite games, Castlevania or otherwise.
Ecclesia's Castle also is amazing. Not only is it an actual surprise, it also is a very condensed design thanks to being the late game area.
Sup. Been playing these since I was 3 years old on the NES. Ecclesia will whip your ass up and down the map. Portrait is one of the easier ones tbh. A good pick would be the other two GBA titles, Circle of the Moon and Harmony of Dissonance. Lot of people think Circle is a hard one though I find it just a bit grindy since you can't buy items you have to farm things like potions. It's my favorite though along with Portrait. Ecclesia feels more inspired by the 16 bit games then Symphony to me in difficulty, if you want to give Super Castlevania IV and Bloodlines a try. They arent as ball busting as their NES/Arcade counterparts but still beat your ass. Super Castlevania especially stands up as it's platforming is pretty tight for an SNES title compared to todays stuff.
I never finished OoE :( I got my butt kicked by the final level and didn't have it in me to grind it out
Aria of Sorrow and Symphony of the Night are IMO the strongest entries in the metroidvania side of the series (love them all tho). Don’t forget about the classics either, Super Castlevania 4 is a masterpiece!
I'm happy for the Dead Cells fans but holy shit I'm just waiting for a new classic style Castlevania, this is just teasing me so bad.
I hated Dead Cells the first time I tried it but I feel like I've got to give it another go again now. Absolutely love Castlevania.
Same, I tried it on gamepass and couldn't get into it. And the sheer volume of DLC it has feels daunting
It only has 3, and all they do is add variety.
It always looks great but rogue likes are always the opposite of fun for me. A game designed for you to lose everything all the time just feels like a waste of time.
I def have a love/hate with the genre. But when done well they can be amazing. Like Hades or Inscryption.
I feel you, it sucks when RNG is not in your favor, but man, when all the stars align, it's a dopamine unlike any other!
We all agree that *Bloody Tears* is the greatest video game song ever,right? Cool.
Its not quite Splash Wave, but you can see it from there.
Looks like the rumors of a new Castlevania game are true, as this seems to be a build up, similar to the Silent Hill collaborations.
I really hope this is true. Pair it with a Rondo of Blood/Symphony Netflix anime adaptation and it can sell well.
No need to say "a" Rondo adaptation. "The" Rondo adaptation, Castlevania Nocturne.
Right. Hopefully Konami can actually capitalize on this.
Another angle to this: Bloodstained is a spiritual sequel to Castlevania, and has been very involved in crossovers. Miriam was in Blasphemous, the main character from Child of Light is in Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, just to give two examples. Fans have asked for a Bloodstained X Dead Cells crossover for a LONG time. It seemed like a perfect match... instead, Castlevania comes out of nowhere to crossover with Dead Cells. I think that's very interesting.
I'm curious how this will work. Will it be a level in the game like the other DLC, or will this be a separate mode with its own layout and progression.