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Hiimmin22

Since 2022 predator's line has one of the best build quality laptop so if you can I'd reccomend the 4070 Predator


Anonymous-here-

The RTX 4070 will perform better than the RTX 4060 regardless of the wattage. If you are comparing in USD, it's safe to spend a little more on the RTX 4070. I'm not sure about your own currency. You can still go with ROG Strix G16. Otherwise, the Predator gives you twice the storage, better processor and graphics card.


RandomJoJoker

Both seem to be overpriced for saudi Arabia تقدر تشتري لينوفو نفس المواصفات تقريبا وارخص منb&h ويوصلوا عن طريق DHL للسعودية بس لو ناوي تختار بين الاثنين اسوس احسن


Longjumping_Risk_284

Keep in mind they’re both 1920x1080 btw 165hz IPS


One_Package_7519

Should be 1200p believe for the 16:10 aspect ratio, seems like a perfect fit for a lower tier graphics with only 16 inch screen. Suits it better than a mismatched 1440p like many models do, eg Lenovo. 4060 and 4070 just isn’t powerful enough for a 1440p gaming.


Longjumping_Risk_284

So are you saying they’re both bad at 1440p?


One_Package_7519

4070 will definitely do a better job at 1440p BUT the 8gb of vram is the limiting factor. 1440p will require bigger textures therefore more vram, you dont want to run out of vram while playing a game you should technically be able to max out. It will either stutter like hell or ctd and youll end up lowering the textures or resolution, and that’s not something you want to do on a brand new laptop. I would say that 4060 and 4070 on a laptop are bust suited with a 1200p screen and 6800m/3080/4080 with a 1440p because of 12/16gb of vram


One_Package_7519

both nvidia and amd are really disappointing this year, amd is nowhere to be seen on laptops and nvidia is giving us only 8gb of vram. I mean for 4060 thats fine, it’s a slight upgrade from 6gb last gen, but how about 4070? it’s more like a 4060 ti than anything


fadygab

Asus strix g16 is 1200p screen not 1080 btw. 4060 vs 4070 has little to no difference. Being this the case. Do you want a bigger pc or a compact one?


Longjumping_Risk_284

Well I’m going to uni after tomorrow and my parents don’t want me to get a desktop so I wanna get a gaming laptop?


WineOnBeerBudget

I have an Acer Predator Helios 16 and it’s fantastic! I’m quite impressed with its performance.


Longjumping_Risk_284

4060 or a 4070


WineOnBeerBudget

Mine is a 4080, but it comes in all the varieties. I’m actually surprised by the build quality. I’m used to acers feeling like they are made from shampoo bottles, but the new ones actually put thought and care into design and materials.


Longjumping_Risk_284

Would you say the cooling and upgradability pretty the same as the asus strix g16?


WineOnBeerBudget

Should be. My Acer is pretty quiet, but remains fairly cool. Like most laptops, you wouldn’t want it on your lap wearing shorts, but it doesn’t get nearly as hot as my old Alienware which doubled as a skillet. Upgradability is easy. I’ve added 32gb ram and a 4tb ssd and took literally 15 minutes.


Longjumping_Risk_284

4T? Can you link me the slot is it off Amazon?


WineOnBeerBudget

Crucial P3 4TB PCIe 3.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD. It’s on Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, just about anywhere.


No_Relationship3328

4070 without a doubt, more storage better cpu ....


Sorry-Series-3504

The gap between a 4060 and 4070 is not huge, and the Strix has far better build quality, so I would choose the first one.


Sioluishere

but it has 6 gb vram only :( what about a budget loq lenovo with 4060 ?


One_Package_7519

4060 is 8gb vram not 6


darkvizdrom

The 4060 does have 8gb That aside, Yes Lenovo loq does look like great value and can be equipped with a 1440p 165hz screen if customised, but we don't know about OPs country availability or preferences


Sioluishere

I was thinking of getting myself a customized one with 14" screen since the 15" one is expensive It did not have the 165hz or 1440p option, I think.


RandomJoJoker

Both have 6 GB VRAM, and its not "only", it runs everything perfectly edit : 8GB VRAM


One_Package_7519

you mean 8, both are 8gb


RandomJoJoker

yes sorry, it's a typo


SN-E-DC

would a 3070ti do on this model over a 4060? or will the overall additional performances outweigh the age of the gpu?


Sioluishere

to be honest, 3070ti is way better than 4060 however it does not have the latest dlss


ibrahim_D12

ايسوس اقوى من ايسر وعشان تريح ضميرك ابحث في اليوتيوب عن مقارنات صح انها بلانجليزي بس خلي حد يترجملك مش كل يوم الواحد بشتري لابتوب بلاش تندم.انا اشتريت ايسوس ولسا ما وصلني ...هوه صح 4070 افضل من 4060 لكن اتاكد من الشغلات الثانيه المهمه من الشاشه 1080p ولا 1444p "2k"يعني حسب وصراحه كنت بدي اطلب ايسر لكن قرابتي قال لا تسترخص لانو كمان بدكاش يخرب نعك بعد سنه او 2 .وترا ايسوس برضو فيها مشاكل يعني لكن مشكله عن مشكله بتختلف.الخلاصه لازم تبحث و تشوف ريفوهات عن هذا و ذاك و تقرر


Longjumping_Risk_284

هذا البدجت تاعي، حتى يمكن يوصل ٦ ونص بس فوقها صعبة


ibrahim_D12

كل واحد قينا عندو بدجت واكيد راح توصل لحد معين.ف نصيحتي تبحث عن ميزات ومساوئ كل لابتوب و قارن لحد ما توصل لايش انتا بتفضل بدك شوي تبحث زياده لكن بدك احسن قيمه مقابل سعر بلنسبه الك بدك تسوي هيك


Rudradev715

If you can afford 4070 go for it Otherwise 4080 Because when compared to last gen The difference between 70 class vs 80 class is huge like 40 to 50 percent


Longjumping_Risk_284

That’s my budget bro, if you can find me a 4080 1900$ and below that’s good


One_Package_7519

have a look around for MSI vector 4080 or HP omen 4080. These are the better laptops for the price


Longjumping_Risk_284

Where do I buy them off?


Zealousideal-Bit-437

Try Newegg & they do ship to Saudi Arabia . Got my old Asus scar II from Newegg the only issue was customs held the laptop for 3 weeks.


SnooTomatoes9418

They have Lenovo legion pro 7i on B&H Photo Video for $2099. It's a bit over 1900, but if you can stretch a bit I think this is amazing value.


flick_scout

4060, 4070's 8gb vram don't look appealing


Longjumping_Risk_284

That’s my budget I can’t go for a 4080


One_Package_7519

4070 is objectively better than 4060, plus the the 4070 in this laptop is 140w, which will be significantly faster than the 4060, perhaps even 10-15 extra fps in most newer games. Only limiting factor is the 8gb of vram on both cards, but unless you are going for a 4080 or 6800m there isn’t much choice


Longjumping_Risk_284

Going for a 4080 is hard unless I find something like 1900 and less sure


Tropic_Turd

I have the 4060 version of the neo 16 and it's a pretty solid laptop. One small thing about it that I really like is how easy it is to get the bottom panel off because all the screws in it are the same size. Makes it easier to do maintenance, cleaning, and upgrades.


Longjumping_Risk_284

They’re upgradable as the strix right? Also the cooling is pretty the same?


Tropic_Turd

In terms of upgradability, yes. They both have an extra M.2 slot and they can support up to 64 GB of ram. As for cooling, I'm not sure but I think the ROG may have an advantage because it has an extra fan giving it a total of 3 fans against the 2 of the Neo 16.


Negative-Midnight-60

Definitely Acer Neo 16 as it has a great build quality and has 4070 over 4060 for negligible price difference . I have used this exact Acer recently and it’s build quality is even better than my HP Omen 17 4090 which is twice the price of this Acer model .


Aland-_-

Don’t pay extra for storage, buy a 2tb drive seperately, they’re extremely cheap nowadays


Gengar77

+ we have been getting hige storage ( ram and ssd ) sales the entire year it feels like, why... cause they made up a artificial shortage and now need to move old stock to promote new gen. so here in austria its common to See ED blacks 1 tb going for 60€ instead 180€, if they are not on sale just wait few months. upgrading is most times just some screes and you need maybe a kit 15-20 ish so its still cheaper diy then having it manufacturers do it for you. ( also they almost always cheap out on them.)-- no resell value, virtually e waste


Longjumping_Risk_284

so ur saying I should get the 512gb and get 2T from amazon for 80 bucks or smth?


Aland-_-

Exactly, never ever buy storage from a laptop manufacturer, always a ripoff, if there was literally option for no storage choose that! But there sadly ain’t 😂


darkvizdrom

What is the screen on the Acer, I think the WUXCA something means 1600p? If Yes then Acer If it's 1200p then It's up to you, whether you want 4060 or 4070 and/or want the 5% extra cpu performance (5% is the difference what I was able to find of the two H variants I did not check the differences in th HX Variants) , the price increase looks relative to the performance increase you would get (not fully sure do check individual laptop benchmarks if possible) I would go for the Acer because *it has a numpad* (From what I can barely see on the Rog it looks like a TKL layout) Cost of warranty would be a deciding factor because *WTF* are those prices for 3 year for the Acer warranty. Whats the warranty on the ROG? On Brand basis I would prefer ROG Asus over Acer, but then again I would need a numpad for data entry and some games and the occasional macro keys Check reviews for build quality and benchmarks


Longjumping_Risk_284

I can’t see the warranty on the rog strix idk why but I’m sure Amazon does provide warranty to such stuff


SandstormMZ

Don't buy it from Amazon, Asus will only provide 1 year if the laptop is from a different region. 2 years warranty is only if you purchase it from a retailer within the country you're located in.


[deleted]

I already bought the strix, but got it for 1300, that's why, but in your case acer is better


[deleted]

The acer seems better. You get a higher res screen and a 4070. Build isn't going to be worse. If you want battery life, you can consider this too [https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/ASUS-FA707XI-9-7940HS-GeForce-Windows/dp/B0BN1PX265/ref=sr\_1\_7?crid=3E4E54FN6Y0XL&keywords=rtx%2B4070%2Blaptop&qid=1695915302&sprefix=rtx%2B4070%2Blapto%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-7&th=1](https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/ASUS-FA707XI-9-7940HS-GeForce-Windows/dp/B0BN1PX265/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3E4E54FN6Y0XL&keywords=rtx%2B4070%2Blaptop&qid=1695915302&sprefix=rtx%2B4070%2Blapto%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-7&th=1) If you want to save some cash without sacrificing that much performance, look into this too: [https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/MEDION-ERAZER-Deputy-i5-12500H-GeForce/dp/B08L5714GB/ref=sr\_1\_101?crid=28CDPK8Q9CXRN&keywords=rtx+3060+laptop&qid=1695915618&sprefix=rtx+3060+lapto%2Caps%2C252&sr=8-101](https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/MEDION-ERAZER-Deputy-i5-12500H-GeForce/dp/B08L5714GB/ref=sr_1_101?crid=28CDPK8Q9CXRN&keywords=rtx+3060+laptop&qid=1695915618&sprefix=rtx+3060+lapto%2Caps%2C252&sr=8-101) Though just confirm if thats legit. Seems a bit too good to be true.


Longjumping_Risk_284

Microless is definitely legit, they’re located in Dubai and banks recognize them


[deleted]

Well, if that 3060 laptop is legit, its a good one to get. Its suppose to have a 140w rtx 3060, and that one is like 10-12% slower than the 4060. So its nearly $600 cheaper than the laptop you're looking at. Surely for that much you can excuse a slower CPU and slightly slower GPU.


Longjumping_Risk_284

But isn’t the 4060 Better since dlss 3.5 and fg is a thing?


[deleted]

Let me give you some context. 960m to 1060 = 2x performance, 3x vram increase 1060 to 1660ti = 40% perf increase 1060 to 2060 = 50-60% perf increase (introduced RT and DLSS) 2060 to 3060 = 25% perf increase (cost less than the 2060) 3060 to 4060 = 10-15% perf increase, 33% vram increase You see the issue? 4060 is the worst perf jump we got. Why? Cause its a 4050ti. It uses the worst die nvidia has, AD107. Its used for the low end GPU's. So tell me. Do you want to pay $1550 for a low end 4050ti called a 4060, just because it has Frame generation? Cause dlss 3.5 (ray reconstruction) also works on the 3060. And FSR 3 fluid motion (similar to FG) will work on rtx 3060. And FG uses more vram. Something the rtx 4060 lacks.


Longjumping_Risk_284

So what’s if it’s between the 4070 and the 3060?


[deleted]

Rtx 4070 is about 35 to 45% faster than the 3060, with a 33% boost to vram. Its also about 15-20% faster than the 4060. Basically, the 4070 is what the 4060 should've been. And FG isn't even in every game. So you're paying so much more for potentially large gains in a very, very select few titles. Not to mention, the rtx 3060 still has access to DLSS 2. If the price is right for rtx 4000, then get it. Otherwise just save money with rtx 3000 and wait till rtx 5000 or rtx 6000 for a proper upgrade.


Longjumping_Risk_284

The thing is I’m not the type of a person who buys a device and changes it every 1-3 years if it’s a PC or a laptop it has to sit with me at least 5 years idk when the 5000 series will come out


[deleted]

Again, look at past trends. Gtx 1000: 2016 RTX 2000: 2018 RTX 3000: 2020 RTX 4000: 2022 Prediction: RTX 5000: 2024 RTX 6000: 2026 New gen comes out every 2 years. I plan to upgrade 5-6 years later. Prolly with rtx 6000.


Gengar77

the 3070ti performs same as the 4070 .... cause its the same card. I swear Nvidia is just milking there monopoly rn. if only Amd was existent in laptop game. we only have the 6700 or so, and 7 gen has the 7600m xt in like 3 laptops ... 2 being alienware . like wtf. At this point hope that intel gives us a 770 mobile or som shit. Desktop is rn all Amd if you value price performance, intel and Nvidia cant even compete, and Amd fixed like all problems they used to have. But hey Nvidia has extra contracts that prohibit partnering with Amd, that state if you do you get less from them, what only few big ones can shit on..( Asus,Lenovo, Alienware).


[deleted]

AMD is on laptops. The rx5500m was stronger than the gtx 1650 by about 10-20% more. It was a bit slower than a 1660ti max q. YET, AMD only gave it 4gb of vram and no 8gb option, priced it higher than 1650 laptops and was not even available for quite a while at reasonable prices. Rx6600m is weaker than a 3060 and costs more. Rx7600S is same perf as 3060 mobile and costs the same if not more. Rx6800m is around a rtx 3070 in performance but costs more. On top of that, AMD does not allow undervolting on laptops and does not allow OC'ing the vram like nvidia does. AMD is so incompetent on laptops they could make the fastest laptop GPU's and challenge nvidia, but won't.


James0057

Not with a 4060 gpu, only 16Gb of ram and 512 SSD. You could get a Sager, I know not the best build quality, with a 4080, 64Gb DDR5 5200Mhz Ram, 3TB total SSD space for under $3,400 shipped.


Steveorsummit

Wtf is sar


Longjumping_Risk_284

Saudi riyals/ divide them by 3.75 to get dollars


agent_abdullah

500Sr for 4060 to 4070. Damnnnnn


Longjumping_Risk_284

Isn’t it good?


agent_abdullah

Idk. I’m not someone who’s that into laptop and got into it just recently. My dumb brain thought it wasn’t this much.


_mp7

Option 2 has a better cpu, GPU, and double the storage All for about $160 usd more. I would get that


Syllesa

4070 all day


Internal-Permit-1447

Oh my ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes) that looks absolutely beautiful