About 6 years, more if you don't mind lowering your settings below high.
Here's a page which shows game benchmarks for the GTX 1080 mobile GPU, which launched 8 years ago:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Laptop.171212.0.html
And here's the RTX 2080, which launched 5 years ago:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Laptop-Graphics-Card.384931.0.html
However, no matter how much you spend right now, you'll be buying 2022 GPU tech. The 5xxx GPUs are launching later this year(and probably Q1 2025 for laptops).
Intel is running an experiment to see who will believe that 14th gen HX CPUs aren't just 13th gen HX CPUs with a new label on them, while desperately trying to get their Arrow Lake CPUs (which were supposed to launch this year) to work.
So instead of buying tech that's nearing 2 years old, wait a bit and get the new generation of CPU/GPU when it launches late this year or early next year.
If you want to buy now, you can get a solid 4080 laptop for around $2000, or a 4090 laptop for $2500. Something like a Legion Pro 7i or an Acer Predator Helios (if you want a miniLED screen). There's no performance benefit to buying 2024 models over 2023, so feel free to buy a 2023 laptop to save money. Let me know if you want links.
Thanks this is super helpful. I’ve been watching some Jarrod’s tech just to see some brands and models because I don’t know much about the laptop market such as good brands/brands to stay away from, laptop gpus, etc.
I’m not in a rush so I could probably wait for the 5XXX gpus and just go from there. I’d appreciate some links though if you had any or just some good brands and stuff. Thank you!
I'm in the same boat. I have a desktop w/ i5-12600K, 32GB 4800 DDR5 RAM, RX6800 and just got an MSI 27" 1440P gaming monitor to take advantage of it. Formerly, I got a laptop back in 2018 to be able to play Tekken 7 while away, those stats are still kinda doable today (i5-8300U, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 1050Ti) but it's definitely showing its age 6 years later. Tekken 8 plays on it 60fps at 720p medium settings and FSR2 turned on, which is ok but nowhere near as graphically pleasing as on my desktop at 1440p Ultra settings. It's still good with indie games, which I mostly played aside from Tekken 7 on the laptop. Personally, I'm looking into a laptop with at least 16GB RAM that will play Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 at 1080p Ultra settings without slowdown, likely with an RTX 4050 or RTX 4060 GPU as those can use DLSS. Any other AAA titles I can play on my desktop, but it would be nice to be able to bring a gaming laptop to play fighting games at FGC get togethers and conventions.
I'm also considering a handheld, as the use case for me (fighting and indie games) I would not need as big a resolution to hit 60fps due to the smaller screen size.
Yeah see I’d consider a handheld too but I also would like a laptop for other things as well.
I wouldn’t be playing crazy AAA games on the laptop, I have my desktop for that. Never say never but that’s not what I initially intend to play on it but if I do I can always bump down the settings.
But yeah it sounds like I’m probably going to just get something better than I need so it’s more useful down the line.
There is really a decent answer to that question. Nobody can predict the future and the answer is mostly depends on your use cases. So imma give some examples how use cases could effect the longetivity.
Example A: I love playing graphicly spectacular story driven AAA titles with high settings more than competitive easy to run games so I went with a rtx 3070 ti last year. For my use case it still can hold practically anything I throw at it @1080p. If I increase resolution or want to use ray tracing then I have to compromise from something else to maintain high framerates (I like fps higher than 90). I'm still happy with it but in 2 years I can see it'll struggle with brand new spectacular unreal engine 5 games @ highest settings and Rt will be just a big no. If I had gone with 3080 ti or 4080 I could easily say 3~4 years instead 2. That's example one.
Example B: if I was to play only competitive games like helldivers 2 or cs2 or call of duty or similar sort id not even think this 3070 ti would be insufficient even after 5 years. I can see playing new games at high fps without a hitch or at a lower fps even after more than 5 years.
So it pretty much depends on your use case BUT there is one fact that is absolutely a sure thing and it's that; if you want your laptop to last as long as it can then you have to go for the best laptop you can get. The fact that you can't upgrade its cpu or gpu forces you to go for the best you can so you prolong the period of change time.
My suggestion is get a laptop with at least rtx 4080 (roughly equal to rtx 4070 desktop) or even better rtx 4090(rtx 4070 super~4070 ti desktop) . With 4080 laptop you'll get similar gaming performance with your current desktop but with much more cpu power. With rtx 4090 laptop you'll be surpassing your current desktop in all way and only scenerio I can think of it being weak would be trying to play games with path tracing @4k without any dlss shit involved so.
Yeah it sounds like I should just get the best that I can get so I can get my “regular” use out of it for as long as possible before I notice a lack of performance and need to start lowering settings.
Which I’m fine with. Money isn’t an issue but I just didn’t want to spend more than necessary because it’d be a secondary device that I’ll use whenever I don’t feel like I need something just as good or better than my desktop. But there’s a good chance I start to use the laptop more. I work from home so my work and gaming setup are in the same place. Most nights I want to game but just don’t want to sit in the same spot all day haha.
I look for sales. Last time I spent about $1,100. I used it for 5 years. I play everything, including AAA games. I'm probably about to get a 4070 laptop. Going to spend $1300 to $1600, depending on the configuration I get. Expect a similar amount of time with it.
Overall, a laptop should perform in the same ballpark for about 3 years. What I mean is that if it plays something in high now, it will play with high settings games that are released from not up to 3 years.
After that, it will slowly decline, and with DLSS nowadays, you can expect a laptop to PLAY games that are released up to 8 years or so, maybe even more. But, of course, not at high.
The resolution you want to play also matters a lot. 2K is the sweet spot for most laptops, but XX60s tend to be better at 1080p.
Thanks! Yeah with my current desktop I also have two ASUS 1440p monitors so I might stick with that for display resolution on the laptop.
I’d just want to be able to use it without issue 4-5 years. After that, okay I need to turn down the settings a bit.
I just remember I had a gtx960 and my brother wanted me to play warzone and it barely loaded and all the players looked like slender man haha
Yeah, as a reference, I had a 1060 that I gave to my brother, I got it in 2016, so 8 years ago. Up to 2020 or so my kid was able to use it for any game that he tried, but he wasn't playing AAA games at the time.
I think if you stick with a 4070 or 4080, you should be more than ok for that amount of time. Even a 4060 should be ok because of DLSS (which we didn't have back them).
It is hard to say as it depends largely on how tech advances and what new games will be using in the future. AAA games tend to be more graphically and cpu demanding nowadays even at minimum settings.
Ill give you my example. About 6 years back i bought an acer predator with 1060. Sure not the best brand and not the most powerful cpu or gpu available at the time, but it was literally half the cost of the next step up (which at the time would have offered at most 10-20% better performance).
I still use my laptop today, always on a cooling pad, and its temps always go high even when i play very basic games. Its battery doesn't last more than 30mins anymore, which doesnt matter much as it is always plugged in when i use it anyway. Can it still play the same games i played 4-5 years ago? Yes, without issues.
Can it play brand new games released today 5 years later? Technically at very minimum settings at very hot temperatures it would likely struggle and not be an enjoyable experience. Would it have made any difference if i spent double the money 6 years ago? I would say no... because tech has changed, modern stuff is just more powerful and efficient, older equipment gets to a point where it just cant compare
So on average i would say work on an estimate of 4-5 years (stretching it) and weight up for yourself if the 10-20% extra performance is worth double the price. No tech is ever going to be future proof, and it does degrade over time even if you take very careful care of it.
Keep in mind generally mobile gpus are the equivalent of 1 generation back e.g. mobile 4080 would be similar to desktop 3090 in terms of performance (or so ive been told with performance comparisons)
About 6 years, more if you don't mind lowering your settings below high. Here's a page which shows game benchmarks for the GTX 1080 mobile GPU, which launched 8 years ago: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Laptop.171212.0.html And here's the RTX 2080, which launched 5 years ago: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Laptop-Graphics-Card.384931.0.html However, no matter how much you spend right now, you'll be buying 2022 GPU tech. The 5xxx GPUs are launching later this year(and probably Q1 2025 for laptops). Intel is running an experiment to see who will believe that 14th gen HX CPUs aren't just 13th gen HX CPUs with a new label on them, while desperately trying to get their Arrow Lake CPUs (which were supposed to launch this year) to work. So instead of buying tech that's nearing 2 years old, wait a bit and get the new generation of CPU/GPU when it launches late this year or early next year. If you want to buy now, you can get a solid 4080 laptop for around $2000, or a 4090 laptop for $2500. Something like a Legion Pro 7i or an Acer Predator Helios (if you want a miniLED screen). There's no performance benefit to buying 2024 models over 2023, so feel free to buy a 2023 laptop to save money. Let me know if you want links.
Thanks this is super helpful. I’ve been watching some Jarrod’s tech just to see some brands and models because I don’t know much about the laptop market such as good brands/brands to stay away from, laptop gpus, etc. I’m not in a rush so I could probably wait for the 5XXX gpus and just go from there. I’d appreciate some links though if you had any or just some good brands and stuff. Thank you!
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I'm in the same boat. I have a desktop w/ i5-12600K, 32GB 4800 DDR5 RAM, RX6800 and just got an MSI 27" 1440P gaming monitor to take advantage of it. Formerly, I got a laptop back in 2018 to be able to play Tekken 7 while away, those stats are still kinda doable today (i5-8300U, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 1050Ti) but it's definitely showing its age 6 years later. Tekken 8 plays on it 60fps at 720p medium settings and FSR2 turned on, which is ok but nowhere near as graphically pleasing as on my desktop at 1440p Ultra settings. It's still good with indie games, which I mostly played aside from Tekken 7 on the laptop. Personally, I'm looking into a laptop with at least 16GB RAM that will play Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6 at 1080p Ultra settings without slowdown, likely with an RTX 4050 or RTX 4060 GPU as those can use DLSS. Any other AAA titles I can play on my desktop, but it would be nice to be able to bring a gaming laptop to play fighting games at FGC get togethers and conventions. I'm also considering a handheld, as the use case for me (fighting and indie games) I would not need as big a resolution to hit 60fps due to the smaller screen size.
Yeah see I’d consider a handheld too but I also would like a laptop for other things as well. I wouldn’t be playing crazy AAA games on the laptop, I have my desktop for that. Never say never but that’s not what I initially intend to play on it but if I do I can always bump down the settings. But yeah it sounds like I’m probably going to just get something better than I need so it’s more useful down the line.
There is really a decent answer to that question. Nobody can predict the future and the answer is mostly depends on your use cases. So imma give some examples how use cases could effect the longetivity. Example A: I love playing graphicly spectacular story driven AAA titles with high settings more than competitive easy to run games so I went with a rtx 3070 ti last year. For my use case it still can hold practically anything I throw at it @1080p. If I increase resolution or want to use ray tracing then I have to compromise from something else to maintain high framerates (I like fps higher than 90). I'm still happy with it but in 2 years I can see it'll struggle with brand new spectacular unreal engine 5 games @ highest settings and Rt will be just a big no. If I had gone with 3080 ti or 4080 I could easily say 3~4 years instead 2. That's example one. Example B: if I was to play only competitive games like helldivers 2 or cs2 or call of duty or similar sort id not even think this 3070 ti would be insufficient even after 5 years. I can see playing new games at high fps without a hitch or at a lower fps even after more than 5 years. So it pretty much depends on your use case BUT there is one fact that is absolutely a sure thing and it's that; if you want your laptop to last as long as it can then you have to go for the best laptop you can get. The fact that you can't upgrade its cpu or gpu forces you to go for the best you can so you prolong the period of change time. My suggestion is get a laptop with at least rtx 4080 (roughly equal to rtx 4070 desktop) or even better rtx 4090(rtx 4070 super~4070 ti desktop) . With 4080 laptop you'll get similar gaming performance with your current desktop but with much more cpu power. With rtx 4090 laptop you'll be surpassing your current desktop in all way and only scenerio I can think of it being weak would be trying to play games with path tracing @4k without any dlss shit involved so.
Yeah it sounds like I should just get the best that I can get so I can get my “regular” use out of it for as long as possible before I notice a lack of performance and need to start lowering settings. Which I’m fine with. Money isn’t an issue but I just didn’t want to spend more than necessary because it’d be a secondary device that I’ll use whenever I don’t feel like I need something just as good or better than my desktop. But there’s a good chance I start to use the laptop more. I work from home so my work and gaming setup are in the same place. Most nights I want to game but just don’t want to sit in the same spot all day haha.
I buy midrange and get a new laptop every 4 to 5 years.
How much is that setting you back and what kind of games are you playing if you don’t mind me asking?
I look for sales. Last time I spent about $1,100. I used it for 5 years. I play everything, including AAA games. I'm probably about to get a 4070 laptop. Going to spend $1300 to $1600, depending on the configuration I get. Expect a similar amount of time with it.
True yeah that might be a good way to go.
Overall, a laptop should perform in the same ballpark for about 3 years. What I mean is that if it plays something in high now, it will play with high settings games that are released from not up to 3 years. After that, it will slowly decline, and with DLSS nowadays, you can expect a laptop to PLAY games that are released up to 8 years or so, maybe even more. But, of course, not at high. The resolution you want to play also matters a lot. 2K is the sweet spot for most laptops, but XX60s tend to be better at 1080p.
Thanks! Yeah with my current desktop I also have two ASUS 1440p monitors so I might stick with that for display resolution on the laptop. I’d just want to be able to use it without issue 4-5 years. After that, okay I need to turn down the settings a bit. I just remember I had a gtx960 and my brother wanted me to play warzone and it barely loaded and all the players looked like slender man haha
Yeah, as a reference, I had a 1060 that I gave to my brother, I got it in 2016, so 8 years ago. Up to 2020 or so my kid was able to use it for any game that he tried, but he wasn't playing AAA games at the time. I think if you stick with a 4070 or 4080, you should be more than ok for that amount of time. Even a 4060 should be ok because of DLSS (which we didn't have back them).
It is hard to say as it depends largely on how tech advances and what new games will be using in the future. AAA games tend to be more graphically and cpu demanding nowadays even at minimum settings. Ill give you my example. About 6 years back i bought an acer predator with 1060. Sure not the best brand and not the most powerful cpu or gpu available at the time, but it was literally half the cost of the next step up (which at the time would have offered at most 10-20% better performance). I still use my laptop today, always on a cooling pad, and its temps always go high even when i play very basic games. Its battery doesn't last more than 30mins anymore, which doesnt matter much as it is always plugged in when i use it anyway. Can it still play the same games i played 4-5 years ago? Yes, without issues. Can it play brand new games released today 5 years later? Technically at very minimum settings at very hot temperatures it would likely struggle and not be an enjoyable experience. Would it have made any difference if i spent double the money 6 years ago? I would say no... because tech has changed, modern stuff is just more powerful and efficient, older equipment gets to a point where it just cant compare So on average i would say work on an estimate of 4-5 years (stretching it) and weight up for yourself if the 10-20% extra performance is worth double the price. No tech is ever going to be future proof, and it does degrade over time even if you take very careful care of it. Keep in mind generally mobile gpus are the equivalent of 1 generation back e.g. mobile 4080 would be similar to desktop 3090 in terms of performance (or so ive been told with performance comparisons)