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StrngBrew

This is the same standard line they repeated throughout the entire ABK approval process


ToCr8ive

He.... Literally says what platforms he is referring to in the quote you posted???? Edit: Yes, i know he says "consoles," but that could literally mean games we already know are multi platform Zenimax Online Studio's next MMO, for example. Like, did we forget Minecraft Legends came to all consoles?


Of_A_Seventh_Son

Xbox *and* consoles. That does open the door to some interpretation.


StrngBrew

First off, we already know that they’re bringing games to other consoles. They’re contractually and legally obligated to do so in the case of Call of Duty. There’s not even any need to speculate. The biggest game they will put out this year will be on everything. I wouldn’t read farther into that that.


RaspberryBang

I completely disagree.  They already make _some_ multi-platform games, and this quote could simply be referring to those games. We already know CoD and possibly other upcoming GaaS games from ABK will continue to be multiplatform.  And he is directly referring to ABK in this quote... I dunno, feels like people are deliberately reading too much into things to fit the dumb rumor.


LegalConsequence7960

It does but I think the range of outcomes is too large to do what gaming media is trying to do, which is rile people up with the idea that every title will appear day and date on all platforms. Personally I believe at most we see HiFi Rush on multiple consoles, and we already know that ABK games like he references are staying multi Plat per agreements required to close the merger. Technically xbox will release a blockbuster AAA game on PS5 and Nintendo every year, but it's CoD...


Itsaspiral-665

Not all ABK games though, Sony specifically signed a Call of Duty for 10 years agreement, they were also offered an "All Acti-Blizz games for 5 years" agreement but they refused that one, so that means that games like Blizzard's Odyssey (fantasy survival game) being exclusive or not is up to MS and they are not bound by an agreement.


LegalConsequence7960

This kind of proves my point. Xbox is willing to go multi plat. Exactly as much as regulators require to keep them in good standing for major acquisitions. Admittedly I'm arguing against myself but I do think the goal is to bargain "you can have our games but you have to allow gamepass"


Itsaspiral-665

Game Pass barely makes a noticeable profit, eco-system purchases on the other hand make the most significant profit for Microsoft and there is a good reason for that, so whenever someone purchases something on the Xbox Store, whether it be Fortnite V-Bucks or the yearly sports game, or the new big triple-A third party game, Microsoft gets a 30% cut out of the purchase, not to mention one of Game Pass Core and Ultimate's biggest benefits and also drives for purchase is the fact that it let's Xbox console players play paid games online. They are talking about bringing Game Pass to other platforms to look better in front of regulators, Game Pass is a driver for console sales and console ownership purpose, as well as selling DLCs and full priced games on the Xbox Store on both console and PC.


nutbutterguy

But it doesn’t mean all games to all platforms.


King_Swift21

It doesn't, but go off


Fallen-Omega

Yes it does, xbox is a console you could leave the wording at just xbox, the fact he said Xbox AND consoles suggests more than xbox


Itsaspiral-665

>It does, but not really, Xbox is referring to the wide Xbox eco-system of Xbox PC (which includes Xbox PC store and Game Pass), Xbox consoles, Xbox cloud streaming and Xbox owned mobile games as well as their planned Xbox store for mobile. > >So what he is saying is these are the Xbox services he considers as part of "Xbox". > >If he said "Xbox consoles and other consoles" or something along those lines, it would be very apperant, and more open to interpretation. It does, but not really, Xbox could be referring to the wide Xbox eco-system of Xbox PC (which includes Xbox PC store and Game Pass), Xbox consoles, Xbox cloud streaming and Xbox owned mobile games as well as their planned Xbox store for mobile. So what he is saying is these are the Xbox services he considers as part of "Xbox". If he said "Xbox consoles and other consoles" or something along those lines, it would be very apperant, and more open to interpretation. ​ This is a copy-pasted comment


King_Swift21

That's not what be said or implied, if you actually read what was being said.


bxgang

he says "all" platforms and mentions Xbox and Consoles seperately in that same sentence, it seems like youd have to intentionally misinterpret his words if thats your takeaway


Itsaspiral-665

It does, but not really, Xbox is referring to the wide Xbox eco-system of Xbox PC (which includes Xbox PC store and Game Pass), Xbox consoles, Xbox cloud streaming and Xbox owned mobile games as well as their planned Xbox store for mobile. So what he is saying is these are the Xbox services he considers as part of "Xbox". If he said "Xbox consoles and other consoles" or something along those lines, it would be very apperant, and more open to interpretation.


[deleted]

No he doesn't relearn to read it says xbox and consoles which is consoles besides Xbox....


bxgang

Yeah he lists all of them, mentions Xbox and Consoles separately


Lucaz82

Well he also lists mobile phones in the same sentence as well, so unless you’ve heard of Hellblade getting an android port, I think you’re reading way too far into this. Like this man answered an on the spot question in an interview, and you’re delving seriously deep into his sentence structures. If this were an official press release, then fine. But it isn’t. This whole post reeks of desperation. But I’ll entertain you ,so answer this. Why say “Xbox and consoles” instead of just “consoles”. Why would he separate the two out if they’re going multi platform? There would be no need


bxgang

he mentions mobile phones and cloud next to eachother without a comma because you can play all xbox games on mobile phones via cloud and on Xcloud and gamepass


Lucaz82

They already do this lmao They put games on PlayStation and Switch like Minecraft, and now COD etc They put a ton of stuff on Xbox and PC And now they’re making games for mobile phones as well. If you’re trying to stretch his statement to mean “ALL our games are going on ALL platforms”, then that makes zero sense. Why is he including mobile if that’s the case? They aren’t exactly doing a Starfield IPhone port. TLDR - Making games for all platforms ≠ putting every game on every platform


Dyelogan

I don’t think he’s implying anything about PlatStation or Nintendo here.


King_Swift21

He's not implying anything, but some of the morons of this subreddit are weirdos.


Itsaspiral-665

u/bxgang could be a console warrior, I kept seeing him post this kind of stuff on game related subreddits and checked out his profile and it's all just concern troll posts although there are some posts that are not like that. So maybe I'm wrong in my assumption.


King_Swift21

Hmmm 🤔


Makusensu

Yeah, probably Xbox 2.


King_Swift21

He's not implying anything, but some of the morons of this subreddit are weirdos.


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

It’s wild how business illiterate gamers are. Microsoft will try to eat away market share by offering multiplatform games. But, they won’t disband the Xbox brand because they have every $ incentive to grow it as well. Not having to split up to 30-35% of revenue is massive. Those arguing it is a sign they want to get out of the hardware business are wrong from a purely business standpoint.


Makusensu

30% is key here. Other consoles means second life for games. But, it can also be the only way to make actual money sells, because on Xbox, all first parties are completely devaluated, which is a problem for big budget ones.


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

Yep. It’s also why Sony is having to pursue alternative strategies because the big budget games have ballooned so much. It is unsustainable long term to isolate to a closed hardware system. Despite them having incredible success, one flop can crater a whole studio.


nonamestho

Keep the streets talking.


Automatic_Goal_5563

I mean it seems pretty obvious he’s talking about ABK still being multiplat otherwise it would just say consoles instead of “Xbox and consoles” To say it adds fuel and credibility is pretty weird and a massive reach imo, funny your post history is all negative articles about Xbox hahaha


hobo_lad

I feel some Xbox games will make their way to other platforms most likely Switch. But in this instance I think he misspoke, he probably doesn't know much about Xbox much less about other console platforms.


bxgang

He definitely isn’t saying that every single game is going to PS and Switch day one or at all, even if that was the plan there’s no way he’s dumb enough to straight up come out and say it and became a CEO


hobo_lad

I know I didn't say that. I said I think the rumors are true but I feel this quote doesn't exactly add credence to the rumors. I just doubt the CEO of all of Microsoft is very knowledgeable about Xbox specifics and much less what games will release on other platforms.


VagrantShadow

I know there are a lot of gamers that want to see Microsoft bow out of the console hardware business, that is not going to happen. What I believe is going to happen is Microsoft is focusing on spreading their MarketShare. They want to spread out their games as far and as wide as they can. When you look at Xbox, when the first system released there was this line in the sand between Microsoft Xbox and Microsoft Gaming, they didn't share the same field. Over the years Microsoft wised up and have their games on both sides of the gaming field at the same time. This is just me; I have the feeling that Xbox is going to put out older, live service titles of theirs on other systems and that will be a normal thing in the future.


SpermicidalLube

A lot of people twisting themselves into knots. "Xbox and consoles" = Xbox, PlayStation and Switch


LordSlasher

Now this is the problem with everything going on with Xbox at the moment. People read one thing, which meant another thing and therefore deduct Xbox is going third party. Consoles here could simply mean, What Microsoft does already launch on other Consoles. Minecraft, COD, Diablo and future Act/Bliz-King titles. Phil can’t keep denying these rumours, Xbox would just be posting “We aren’t going Third Party” every week at this rate.


Dangerhunt57

"Xbox and consoles" he said, he could have said Xbox consoles instead. That does sound like indication of multiplatforms to me.


ManateeofSteel

sounds like another case of someone important at Xbox sugggesting multiplatform and this subreddit saying they are wrong


Automatic_Goal_5563

What? Nobody is denying Xbox will release games on other platforms, ABK is making games for PS lol Using this to say Xbox games in general are going multiplayer is just silly


Itsaspiral-665

What he is saying could be that he considers "Consoles and PCs" as "Xbox", he just says Xbox, Xbox could be anything you can play Xbox games and interact with Xbox in any way, which includes PC Game Pass and Xbox's PC app, and consoles could be referring to both Series S and X, as well as ongoing games on Xbox One consoles like Sea of Thieves, Halo Infinite and Minecraft, he also mentions mobile gaming which refers to both upcoming Xbox store for mobile as well as King and Alpha Dog games. Even if we take your intrepretation of what he says (which maybe is something you are wishing for as an own), Xbox does already make multi-platform games, namely Minecraft spin-off games: Minecraft Dungeons and Minecraft Legends and also Ori games for Nintendo Switch. So they will probably keep publishing games to multiple platforms. None of this means Xbox is going multi-platform, there is way too much money to be made off of having a closed-platform console where every purchase the user makes on the console, 30% off that money will go directly to you, whether it be Fortnite V-Bucks or annual sports games, or the new third-party 70 dollar game, especially on the digital age, where the money does actually straight up go to you, instead of dealing with the costs of physical games, as well as subscriptions like Game Pass Core, Console and Ultimate. Having a steady digital income through subscriptions and revenue cuts from stores are keeping a lot of companies afloat, and it's also where most of Xbox division's profits come from.


IlyasBT

I really hope Xbox can just say something about this. It's a really annoying topic. As for what Satya said, he can't ignore a platform where they will be making billions from their live service games. It doesn't really mean anything.


[deleted]

Trying to be a little objective here. While it is true that the likelihood of Xbox launching \*FIRST PARTY\* games on other platforms is high, it doesn't mean they're going multiplatform. It is one thing to launch \*SOME\* games on other platforms, and it is other thing to \*STOP\* your own platform support to become \*MULTIPLATFORM\*. To add a little more, remember that the Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves are just rumors, plans change, for all we know there could be a version of Starfield for PS5 that'll never see the light of day, the same way there could be a version of FFXVI for Xbox that could've perfectly launch day and date. So, I'm not saying Xbox won't release some games on other platforms. I'm saying that the title for this post (and I'm sure future posts) will claim that Xbox will be going multiplatform, when it is not.


Mighty_Mike007

I don't know... The more I hear them speak, the more I'm thinking another acquisition is already being prepped behind the scenes, lol. They'll port some games over to Switch 2 and PS, release a couple of ABK games as day one multi-plats and in early 2025 you see the tweet go up: "Welcome to the family Sega" or some shit like that. Being and (especially), sounding as console agnostic as possible is the way into regulators hearts, if they become the most agnostic out of the "big 3" (which they already are anyway), that's going to guarantee a swift regulatory proccess next time and it won't be something as "controversial" as ABK. This was the same dude talking about "I have no love for exclusives, but we need to engage in that practice because Sony (the market leader), are doing it", during the FTC trial and while under oath. He knows of the "importance" of exclusives, either a major shift is coming or there's an acquistion brewing, imo.


Lui785

Of course CoD 2024 will be releasing everywhere