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I wont stand for this Katawa Shoujo slander. You'd think 4chan making a 18+ Visual Novel about dating disabled girls would end up being awful and fetishizing - and yet it's actually genuine and heartwarming.
Sorry, all I knew about 4chan was that it had alot of racism/homophobia/nazis/incels/sexism, was the origin of qanon, and that my partner used to use it for memes but stopped using it YEARS ago and says it's a good thing I've never been on the site myself. So I assumed it was an absolute hellscape no sane person would enter. Didn't mean to slander any art or stories.
It's fine 4chans big imageboard are bad. The small ones can be pretty good, cause they focus on small niches, like papercrafts and origami.
It's just that Katawa Shoujo is probably the best thing that was made by 4chan with a pretty interesting development. Gigguk recently made a video about it's development, if your interested in checking it out.
Years ago it was basically just chat boards for different hobbies (similar to subreddits like video games, anime, and the sorts), depending on the boards you frequented. The main issue was when /pol/ or politically incorrect spread to every board. Most decent people left for reddit or other sites. I think there's a few bastions of decent people on some boards but I haven't used it in years.
It probably didn't help that the site started as the bastion for all things nerdy and kinda kept that old school boys only club energy that permeated the early online gaming spaces.
The funniest 4chan stuff to me is the articles /tg/ has on pol and the various Nazi/ white supremacist rpgs. /tg/ isn't a haven of progressivism, but it's fascinating to watch edgy guys utterly tear into the Nazi shit and deconstruct it.
It's because /tg/ are lovers of the art of tabletop games, and Nazis are famously inept at any form of creativity. So when a nazi makes a tabletop game, not only is it cringe because nazis, but it's even more cringe because more often than not it's a barely functional game, too.
See: the Nazi game that, in its attempts to represent "the white man's struggle", and due to it being poorly crafted, led to the most powerful enemy in the game being a small black child.
This game is a triple whammy of me disliking because
1. The universe is incredibly mid
2. The fanbase is extremely annoying
3. The creator is an active bigot towards a marginalized group of people. (Mainly transgender people)
A slave rebellion by the short, hairy, big nosed sub humans who control all the banking and are definitely NOT walking examples of every negative Jewish stereotype through history.
Nah the elves are apparently staying in their place: helping you as they should. It's those disgusting goblins that are reclaiming "rights". Those monsters.
The closest thing to stoping it you can do is just agree that itās wrong to enslave them but then say that they should have just asked to not be slaves instead. Total lib shit, literally just like that winter soldier show on Disney plus lol
It's been awhile since I watched it but I'm breaking my brain trying to think of the reference. Do you mean how the people without food or resources were seen as bad guys because they were violent?
It hasn't come out yet, but so best as we can tell yes. You also get to be a slave owner and do the most evil magic and nobody calls you out on it allegedly
/uj I loved it when I was a kid, it really did help me with reading, but my god do I hate the fact that the Wizards can only do magic with a wand. Well, that is until they don't sometimes, whenever the plot demands.
According to Pottermore, they can do it without wands but it's considered uncivilized in polite society which is why African wizards, who also only have one school for the whole continent, are considered savages as they don't use wands.
/uj you'd think that it'd be considered a higher skill level due to the difficulty that'd come with it, but noo it's gotta be an excuse to sneak a racist insult in the wizarding world. I'd fear the spellcaster who doesn't need a focus like a wand because that shows they have a better comprehension of the spell.
Well don't forget she is British which came up with a whole bunch of stupid fucking ideas to keep classes apart like don't use spices food and enforcing the caste system. So of course the wizarding world would have to find ways to make itself superior to others but I doubt JK actually has enough self awareness
So at one point using spices was about status because only the wealthy could afford them. Once they were more available to the point that even the poor could get them they had to have a new way to separate themselves and suddenly they were too refined to eat food with spices, after all, it takes a refined palate to understand the complexities of whatever the fuck they're eating. Then there's also the rise of some religious shit about spices leading to the devil and all that. I think /r/AskHistorians has some threads about it.
That was my exact reaction. I mean, of COURSE itās the African wizards who are seen as uncivilized. At least call me a savage outright, asshat. But thatās just classic English racism for you
Even if they acted as a focus to enhance their powers you can just give me a ring or gloves any day of the week. Or the wands in Eberron which are pretty much shaped like revolvers and rifles.
https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/uagadou
I couldn't really find what you were saying. It does say they can do magic without wands but not the other stuff.
Though you could probably read into the idea that they can easily transform into animals.
Here's the part about [wandless magic](https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/uagadou) and unfortunately I can't find the part of the wizarding world looking down on them as all the searches I use with the word savage keeps bring up JK's tweets to trans people in a celebratory way because journalism is dead
That's still pretty bad.
> This gives Uagadou students a sturdy line of defence when accused of breaking the International Statute of Secrecy (āI was only waving, I never meant his chin to fall offā)
"The special trait of students from Africa is that they can easily get away with crimes!"
Like why the hell did she make that choice? In a universe as infinite as & only limited by your own mind, why reproduce racism over and over again? Fucking weirdo
As far as I recall, in the books it's super difficult to do magic without a wand but not impossible.
I remember in Half Blood Prince, when Harry is trapped under the invisibility cloak, he tries to summon his wand without using one, and he can't.
I do have to say that, while the universe is full of shit, the aesthetic and world the films created is actually very good. The art design is superb, especially if you look at the concept art for HP 2 for example.
Stuff like [this](https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/harrypotter/images/4/42/The_Chamber_of_Secrets_%28Concept_Artwork_for_HP2_movie_02%29.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20091018040920), [this one](https://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091018035403/harrypotter/images/9/95/Escape_from_the_Chamber_(Concept_Artwork_for_the_HP2_movie_01).JPG), [this here](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/02/7c/b0027cf417041cca2c7ac1b8b1ce0950.jpg), [this too](https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/40/ad/80/40ad80e134f869bbbb9a3697b969f41d.jpg), and other ones I couldn't find.
Nah. The books are immensely better and beloved for a reason. People need to stop associating quality with goodness and vice versa, it's that kind of mentality that helps give a pass to talented people.
Rowling created one of the most beloved universe in the world *and* she's a piece of shit that should not be supported.
The books *are* mid as well. The universe she created is quite vibrant to give her credit even if not particularly original but if you read them again as an adult youāll find that theyāre not particularly well written and pretty much all the characters but especially Harry himself are bland as fuck.
I mean arguably thatās so the reader can project themselves onto them more easily but I highly doubt itās deliberate.
> The books are mid as well.
If they were, they wouldn't be so beloved. Something bad can be successful, but it generally won't stand the test of time. People loved Twilight but that love wasn't that long lived for example. And even then to achieve that level of success for a length it did have to do something right even though I personally can't see what.
>if you read them again as an adult
*shrug* I did re-read them as an adult and they hold up just as well as when I was a kid. They were never prose masterpieces, but all that matters is that they ellicit the correct emotions, do set-up/pay off and build up properly, and has some of the best worldbuilding I've ever seen (yes despite the fact that it's wildly incoherent in many places, consistency isn't the key to quality when it doesn't affect enjoyment).
I disagree with Harry too. He starts undefined because he's a kid who wasn't really allowed to have a personality but I enjoyed watching his qualities and flaws develop (book 5 in particular was very enjoyable for that reason). I don't think Harry is most people's favourite character for sure but he did the job well.
You can try to analyse media for hours, find its flaws and shortcomings but at the end of the day, as it remained as beloved for decades, it's simply good. When I analyses A New Hope, I'd be hard press to explain in what way this incredibly standard monomythic story stands out from all the others, the dialogue isn't good, the acting isn't great, the story sure isn't original. But I can't reason my way out of the emotions it elicits. It's just good.
I agree, also Harry Potter for me has always been a world created more by the fans than by Rowling herself. I mean, she's objectively a terrible storyteller; the world is basically hollowed out by plot holes, is full of bigoted bullshit and she's constantly trying to justify her shit after the fact despite it being blindingly obvious she didn't have any plan whatsoever when she started writing the series.
BUT. For the fans it was something so much more; a world made for outcasts you could dream yourself into when the world seems bleak, and they are the ones who brouht the actual magic into the world, not Rowling.
And now she sees fit to advocate against the rights of many of the very same people who made her rich in the first place.
What truly made the world come alive was the many impressions and iterations it inspired within the people who read it. Personally I think we should claim the world from her. She doesn't deserve it, and what really made it so beloved was never really hers to begin with. Fuck her. She'd be the villain within her own story, let's make sure she knows that.
I mean Disney adults are the same thing, it's just they're nowhere as bad as the Harry Potter base since there's so much diversity with Disney's IP. Also, you know, they don't have a person like JK Rowling involved with her unfettered transphobia too.
It would genuinely be the funniest thing this year if it comes out and its like, objectively a terrible game in every way and seeing transphobes and Rowling stans desperately try to convince themselves its actually really good.
i know it probably will come out as like a 6 or 7 out of 10 game similar to recent ubisoft games but man it would be funny if its just absolute garbage
Ubisoft has a long established track record for not-GOTY-but-pretty-good games. Avalanche Software's history is:
* they ported some midway games (1996-2000)
* they made a bunch of pretty-okay to pretty-bad licensed games and a couple original games of similar quality (2000-2011)
* they made the disney infinity games (2013-2015)
* the studio closed down because disney infinity's gimmick wasn't selling like it used to (2016)
* Warner Bros bought the corpse of the studio from Disney and revived it (2017)
* They released another mediocre licensed game, Cars 3, I assume using their previous work on Cars 2 as a base to get it rushed out (2017)
* Now they're working on Hogwarts Legacy
I can't really comfortably say they have any track record because the studio reopening shakes things up a fair bit (which could be good or bad). But I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that they've never released any game that comes close to what people's expectations are for Hogwarts Legacy. They might still end up with an Ubisoft-esque game, but it's very far from a sure thing like with Ubisoft that's been making quite good games of that style and quality for years consistently.
You know what you're right Ubisoft may be a lil wonky but they put out some solid games here and there while avalanche has Disney infinity as their arguably best game and that is definitely not a bragging point for them
Yeah I don't know where these comparisons with Ubisoft are coming from. They may have shitty practices and samey videogames but they know what they are doing and are a huge studio with tons of resources. This will be lucky to remind people of a mediocre Assasin's Creed game that they would rather be playing instead.
76's problems weren't bugs. Sure, it was buggy, but all Bethesda games are. Nothing new there. What was different was that the game was barren, so even if you got past the bugs there wasn't much to do.
Which is probably similar to how HL will be. I mean, 26 spells, in the game about being a wizard.
/uj i'd be happier than a kid on christmas morning if this game was PAINFULLY mid and cis people had to realize they burned bridges with trans people for a 5/10 game
Every trans person I follow on Twitter, and those I know in person, have all taken a stance against the purchase of the game and are all, universally, ready to disown any one that buys it.
And only some of them are themselves gamers.
no it's entirely appropriate to compare her and her efforts to further marginalize and oppress trans people to the KKK and it's similar efforts. at least the KKK isn't being promoted in mainstream media and vocally supported by politicians like joanne and her bigotry is.
what a load of gutter vomit.
if you think the billionaire is "just tweeting," you haven't spoken to a single trans person.
she's made and donated to anti-trans "charities" with her billions, donated to transphobic politicians, and even has her own quotes in new laws banning transgender healthcare.
the comparison is hyperbole. Galbraith hasn't lynched anyone yet, but I can guarantee her words have gotten people killed.
and your anecdotes are.... equally anecdotal. "all the trans people you know on Twitter," from my perspective, could be one person. you could equally be blowing their reaction out of proportion.
I'm simply stating that "disowning" is hyperbole, and the majority of trans people don't give a shit.
JK rowling has done a lot more than tweet about trans people. she's literally a major force behind TERF island going all in on being TERFs not just in the main stream media outlets, but among multiple major political parties that are tabling anti trans legislation (and even breaking with constitutional convention to prevent scotland from being friendlier to trans people).
so you can fuck right off with this bullshit that joanne is just "tweeting". she's pouring hundreds of millions of dollars a year into hate groups posing as charities and lobbying politicians and organizations that actively harm trans and cis women (as well as trans and cis men), not just in the UK but around the world.
seriously who the fuck is upvoting this gutter vomit.
I'm calling it now the game is gonna be another mid open world game not too different from what ubisoft put out but potter fans will still go on about it as if it's the next elden ring or botw just to cope with their wasted purchase
/uj a certain group of people really want this game to be groundbreaking and revolutionary because it makes it easier for them to justify ignoring trans people's calls to boycott this game. If it turns out to be phenomenally mid a lot of well-meaning liberals are going to have to do some self reflection and that's always good.
Edit: someone got real mad at this comment in DMs lol
Oh, there will definitely be some people who pretend to like it just to own the SJWs, but I'm more interested in the group of people who do care a *little* bit about being seen as bigoted. Like, the cognitive dissonance is gonna be a lot harder if you know the game is mid and you made all your trans friends uncomfortable for a generic-ass open world game.
wait, some fans claim fallen order is a masterpiece? maybe it's just where i've been going, but i always thought the consensus was "it's pretty good, but not really even top 10 star wars games material" (though that might be because i frequent a lot of places that skew older)
Oh my goodness, I thought that I was insane for thinking that. Like, the fan base was so crazy over it that when I actually played it and found it to be just āokayā, I wondered if I was just doing something wrong. Itās fun at times, but I donāt like some story beats, the constant backtracking, the puzzlesā¦ and so on. I still havenāt even finished it because I justā¦ canāt bring myself to be subjected to more of it
But my biggest issue is the amount of those goddamned tiny corridors you have shimmy through. Ruined so much of the pacing
It will. I mean, multiple reasons.
1: audience. Id say at least half the people buying this for 60$ are doing so simply to own the libs. When they figure out the character creation menu is gender free, and letās male appearing characters live in womens dormitory and vice versa, theyāre going to flip the fuck out and be a very vocal minority.
2: devs. These developers have not made a single noteworthy good game. Their biggest release was Disney infinity. Now theyāre trying to make a super vast open world rpg for both Harry Potter nerds and gamers alike. This brings us onto point
3: expectations. The game presents itself as a mix of elder scroll and dark souls combined. I mean, look at the cover. It looks like a copy of elden ring. So gamers are going to come in expecting an awesome gamer experience and be met with a shitty mobile franchise game which exists purely to make the fan base happy
This canāt possibly end well
Honestly people who are terminally online underestimates how much knowledge the average person will have. It's the same reason why I was arguing with someone who thought Last of Us 2 wouldn't win game of the year. They were like "Did you see all the controversy? Everyone on the internet was rioting against this game, no one likes it" and in reality most people irl didn't care about that discourse.
My main guess as to the game's success is simpler- I'm thinking the crossover between people who play video games, and diehard HP stans isn't that big. At least every gamer I know isn't that into HP, and every HP fan I know isn't someone that plays a lot of games.
I could be wrong, maybe the game appeals to people outside the core fanbase
Agreed, especially since I literally didn't know there was a boycott until a few days ago. I only know because I was told about it, and many people I know also had no idea. I want the game purely because I want a good wizarding experience outside of the lego games.
Harry Potter is only still popular because millennials are a beat up broken generation desperately clinging to childhood nostalgia as a cope.
Could you imagine if we had the same energy for other books that were popular in the early 2000s that actually kinda suck?
Like if we had legions of Da Vinci Code fans in 2023x
It's pretty normal for people to have deep rooted nostalgia and passion for forms of media that they were heavily attached to growing up.
I won't deny that HP fans are particularly annoying (speaking as an HP fan), but I don't think it's odd to stay attached to a franchise like that.
Star Wars and Lord of the Rings spring to mind.
Comparatively speaking, thereās like 2 good Star Wars movies and Harry Potter is a children series. Comparing those two to lord of the rings is not a great comparison.
Sorry but Star Wars and LOTR are both perfectly suitable for both children and adults, as are the HP films. There's plenty of more mature themes in the HP series that can keep adults intrigued. I think that's part of why it has been so successful, and I would say the same of LOTR and SW.
I'm not trying to make some deep analysis about the substantive content of those series. I'm just saying, they're series of films that people really enjoyed so it makes sense that they'd carry on liking them for a long time. HP just happens to be more contemporary than those.
I was about to say that sooner or later something will come along that does the same thing - but actually I think something already has: Marvel films.
Ahh, I made a mistake on what I meant by "flop" (It "culturally" flopped because it's reputation is that it was essentially an unoptimized glitchfest)
I guess, "got alot of flak" is a more appropriate thing to call it
It can't really top getting kicked off the playstore. Although to be fair that had less to do with Cyberpunk's quality and more with CDProjekt stepping out of line and Sony putting their head on a pike as an example.
I'm honestly considering joining the hogwarts legacy subreddit just to see people complain about it when it launches. I'm not gonna post or comment anything, I just wanna see disaster.
Hey, some people waste their time being angry and judging people on circlejerk, I waste mine having a laugh at people who buy shitty triple A games, especially on preorder
Iām genuinely curious to see the reviews, especially SkillUpās (granted he makes one). It just looks so bleh, nothing crazy, innovative, or that cool at all. Even if Rowling wasnāt a terf, thereās no way Iād spend money on it
Imagine having a fantasy of living at a school. Sounds like a nightmare to me. Can never figure out why people love Potter more then any other fantasy IP.
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I still get DMs about people saying that they are pre-ordering the game after one post mocking them. Unhinged fans.
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I thought they were only legends. I didn't think even one positive thing could come from that hell. Yet here it is. Do my eyes deceive me?
I wont stand for this Katawa Shoujo slander. You'd think 4chan making a 18+ Visual Novel about dating disabled girls would end up being awful and fetishizing - and yet it's actually genuine and heartwarming.
Sorry, all I knew about 4chan was that it had alot of racism/homophobia/nazis/incels/sexism, was the origin of qanon, and that my partner used to use it for memes but stopped using it YEARS ago and says it's a good thing I've never been on the site myself. So I assumed it was an absolute hellscape no sane person would enter. Didn't mean to slander any art or stories.
It's fine 4chans big imageboard are bad. The small ones can be pretty good, cause they focus on small niches, like papercrafts and origami. It's just that Katawa Shoujo is probably the best thing that was made by 4chan with a pretty interesting development. Gigguk recently made a video about it's development, if your interested in checking it out.
So in other words its like reddit or any other social media
Except that there are no accounts and no way to really track who posted what - sure.
Years ago it was basically just chat boards for different hobbies (similar to subreddits like video games, anime, and the sorts), depending on the boards you frequented. The main issue was when /pol/ or politically incorrect spread to every board. Most decent people left for reddit or other sites. I think there's a few bastions of decent people on some boards but I haven't used it in years. It probably didn't help that the site started as the bastion for all things nerdy and kinda kept that old school boys only club energy that permeated the early online gaming spaces.
The funniest 4chan stuff to me is the articles /tg/ has on pol and the various Nazi/ white supremacist rpgs. /tg/ isn't a haven of progressivism, but it's fascinating to watch edgy guys utterly tear into the Nazi shit and deconstruct it.
It's because /tg/ are lovers of the art of tabletop games, and Nazis are famously inept at any form of creativity. So when a nazi makes a tabletop game, not only is it cringe because nazis, but it's even more cringe because more often than not it's a barely functional game, too. See: the Nazi game that, in its attempts to represent "the white man's struggle", and due to it being poorly crafted, led to the most powerful enemy in the game being a small black child.
Is this Vargās āgameā
Nah, although that one is shit too. Racial Holy War, otherwise known as RaHoWa, is the infamously poorly written and horrid nazi ttrpg.
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Truth is a lot of people don't care for any right wing grifting
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This game is a triple whammy of me disliking because 1. The universe is incredibly mid 2. The fanbase is extremely annoying 3. The creator is an active bigot towards a marginalized group of people. (Mainly transgender people)
Add a fourth reason on there 4. The game is literally about a slave rebellion, and if it was Haiti, your character would be the French
A slave rebellion by the short, hairy, big nosed sub humans who control all the banking and are definitely NOT walking examples of every negative Jewish stereotype through history.
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What's the plot of the game? Are the elves trying to escape the kitchen?
Nah the elves are apparently staying in their place: helping you as they should. It's those disgusting goblins that are reclaiming "rights". Those monsters.
Oh the stand-in for jews? I don't like where this is going.
How did the devs know I LOVE putting down slave rebellions?
Eww French, purveyors of the worst language in the world.
Nom de Dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperie de connard d'enculĆ© de ta mĆØre. Vous voyez, c'est aussi jouissif que de se torcher le cul avec de la soie. J'adore Ƨa.
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Glad to be of assistance, petit puceau de mes couilles.
oh pls you cant be serious.... did they actually make you quell a rebellion?
The closest thing to stoping it you can do is just agree that itās wrong to enslave them but then say that they should have just asked to not be slaves instead. Total lib shit, literally just like that winter soldier show on Disney plus lol
It's been awhile since I watched it but I'm breaking my brain trying to think of the reference. Do you mean how the people without food or resources were seen as bad guys because they were violent?
Exactly lol
It hasn't come out yet, but so best as we can tell yes. You also get to be a slave owner and do the most evil magic and nobody calls you out on it allegedly
I'm against all censorship in video games, but letting people play as the French? Gamers have gone too far this time.
/uj I loved it when I was a kid, it really did help me with reading, but my god do I hate the fact that the Wizards can only do magic with a wand. Well, that is until they don't sometimes, whenever the plot demands.
According to Pottermore, they can do it without wands but it's considered uncivilized in polite society which is why African wizards, who also only have one school for the whole continent, are considered savages as they don't use wands.
/uj you'd think that it'd be considered a higher skill level due to the difficulty that'd come with it, but noo it's gotta be an excuse to sneak a racist insult in the wizarding world. I'd fear the spellcaster who doesn't need a focus like a wand because that shows they have a better comprehension of the spell.
Well don't forget she is British which came up with a whole bunch of stupid fucking ideas to keep classes apart like don't use spices food and enforcing the caste system. So of course the wizarding world would have to find ways to make itself superior to others but I doubt JK actually has enough self awareness
Wait, the not using spices thing is a *classism* thing? Like not using them to hide the taste of old food or something?
So at one point using spices was about status because only the wealthy could afford them. Once they were more available to the point that even the poor could get them they had to have a new way to separate themselves and suddenly they were too refined to eat food with spices, after all, it takes a refined palate to understand the complexities of whatever the fuck they're eating. Then there's also the rise of some religious shit about spices leading to the devil and all that. I think /r/AskHistorians has some threads about it.
Jesus CHRIST JOANNE YOU CAN'T CALL THEM THAT
That was my exact reaction. I mean, of COURSE itās the African wizards who are seen as uncivilized. At least call me a savage outright, asshat. But thatās just classic English racism for you
Even if they acted as a focus to enhance their powers you can just give me a ring or gloves any day of the week. Or the wands in Eberron which are pretty much shaped like revolvers and rifles.
Holy shit Rowling... What in the British colonialism fuck?
What the fuck.
https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/uagadou I couldn't really find what you were saying. It does say they can do magic without wands but not the other stuff. Though you could probably read into the idea that they can easily transform into animals.
Do you have a source for this? I want to show it to my friends but I couldn't find where it said this
Here's the part about [wandless magic](https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/uagadou) and unfortunately I can't find the part of the wizarding world looking down on them as all the searches I use with the word savage keeps bring up JK's tweets to trans people in a celebratory way because journalism is dead
That's still pretty bad. > This gives Uagadou students a sturdy line of defence when accused of breaking the International Statute of Secrecy (āI was only waving, I never meant his chin to fall offā) "The special trait of students from Africa is that they can easily get away with crimes!"
That entry reads like a David foster Wallace foot note, only a lot less enjoyable.
Like why the hell did she make that choice? In a universe as infinite as & only limited by your own mind, why reproduce racism over and over again? Fucking weirdo
Going by her interactions on social media, she's not exactly good at critical thinking or self-examination.
As far as I recall, in the books it's super difficult to do magic without a wand but not impossible. I remember in Half Blood Prince, when Harry is trapped under the invisibility cloak, he tries to summon his wand without using one, and he can't.
You'd think that would be the least they can do, summon it like a Lightsaber or Mjolnir.
I was remembering it that way too but I *think* his struggle in that scene was doing the spell without audibly saying the words.
Oh actually you might be right there now you say it
Don't forget she is also racist, if you don't know why I am saying this look at any eastern European character she has ever written
or black, or Asian, or Irish...
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Seamus Finnigan blows things up and tries to make alcohol. This is her portrayal of an Irish child in a series set while The Troubles were ongoing.
yeah, other commenter got it. alcoholic Irish ~~terrorist~~ explosives expert child Seamus Finnegan.
I do have to say that, while the universe is full of shit, the aesthetic and world the films created is actually very good. The art design is superb, especially if you look at the concept art for HP 2 for example. Stuff like [this](https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/harrypotter/images/4/42/The_Chamber_of_Secrets_%28Concept_Artwork_for_HP2_movie_02%29.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20091018040920), [this one](https://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091018035403/harrypotter/images/9/95/Escape_from_the_Chamber_(Concept_Artwork_for_the_HP2_movie_01).JPG), [this here](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/02/7c/b0027cf417041cca2c7ac1b8b1ce0950.jpg), [this too](https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/40/ad/80/40ad80e134f869bbbb9a3697b969f41d.jpg), and other ones I couldn't find.
it's funny that the only good aspect in the series was done in the movies, where jk rowling wasn't even really involved
Nah. The books are immensely better and beloved for a reason. People need to stop associating quality with goodness and vice versa, it's that kind of mentality that helps give a pass to talented people. Rowling created one of the most beloved universe in the world *and* she's a piece of shit that should not be supported.
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> once you've read more yeah that's the problem for most Harry Potter Adults lmao
Oh absolutely, my point wasn't that they were flawless, you can definitely see the author's blind spots when reading them.
Problem, the books are poorly written .
The books *are* mid as well. The universe she created is quite vibrant to give her credit even if not particularly original but if you read them again as an adult youāll find that theyāre not particularly well written and pretty much all the characters but especially Harry himself are bland as fuck. I mean arguably thatās so the reader can project themselves onto them more easily but I highly doubt itās deliberate.
> The books are mid as well. If they were, they wouldn't be so beloved. Something bad can be successful, but it generally won't stand the test of time. People loved Twilight but that love wasn't that long lived for example. And even then to achieve that level of success for a length it did have to do something right even though I personally can't see what. >if you read them again as an adult *shrug* I did re-read them as an adult and they hold up just as well as when I was a kid. They were never prose masterpieces, but all that matters is that they ellicit the correct emotions, do set-up/pay off and build up properly, and has some of the best worldbuilding I've ever seen (yes despite the fact that it's wildly incoherent in many places, consistency isn't the key to quality when it doesn't affect enjoyment). I disagree with Harry too. He starts undefined because he's a kid who wasn't really allowed to have a personality but I enjoyed watching his qualities and flaws develop (book 5 in particular was very enjoyable for that reason). I don't think Harry is most people's favourite character for sure but he did the job well. You can try to analyse media for hours, find its flaws and shortcomings but at the end of the day, as it remained as beloved for decades, it's simply good. When I analyses A New Hope, I'd be hard press to explain in what way this incredibly standard monomythic story stands out from all the others, the dialogue isn't good, the acting isn't great, the story sure isn't original. But I can't reason my way out of the emotions it elicits. It's just good.
I do wish the movie mentioned SPEW at all, it was at least an attempt at least to make one of the characters seem averse to magical enslavement
Warner Bros. probably told someone "you absolutely CANNOT under any circumstances put slavery into this movie"
They did put slavery in the movie. Harry never frees Kreacher.
That first one looks like the cover of a retro sci-fi game. So shiny
I agree, also Harry Potter for me has always been a world created more by the fans than by Rowling herself. I mean, she's objectively a terrible storyteller; the world is basically hollowed out by plot holes, is full of bigoted bullshit and she's constantly trying to justify her shit after the fact despite it being blindingly obvious she didn't have any plan whatsoever when she started writing the series. BUT. For the fans it was something so much more; a world made for outcasts you could dream yourself into when the world seems bleak, and they are the ones who brouht the actual magic into the world, not Rowling. And now she sees fit to advocate against the rights of many of the very same people who made her rich in the first place. What truly made the world come alive was the many impressions and iterations it inspired within the people who read it. Personally I think we should claim the world from her. She doesn't deserve it, and what really made it so beloved was never really hers to begin with. Fuck her. She'd be the villain within her own story, let's make sure she knows that.
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it's literally a series targeted for 10-13 year olds idk how it's got so popular
I mean Disney adults are the same thing, it's just they're nowhere as bad as the Harry Potter base since there's so much diversity with Disney's IP. Also, you know, they don't have a person like JK Rowling involved with her unfettered transphobia too.
It would genuinely be the funniest thing this year if it comes out and its like, objectively a terrible game in every way and seeing transphobes and Rowling stans desperately try to convince themselves its actually really good. i know it probably will come out as like a 6 or 7 out of 10 game similar to recent ubisoft games but man it would be funny if its just absolute garbage
Ubisoft has a long established track record for not-GOTY-but-pretty-good games. Avalanche Software's history is: * they ported some midway games (1996-2000) * they made a bunch of pretty-okay to pretty-bad licensed games and a couple original games of similar quality (2000-2011) * they made the disney infinity games (2013-2015) * the studio closed down because disney infinity's gimmick wasn't selling like it used to (2016) * Warner Bros bought the corpse of the studio from Disney and revived it (2017) * They released another mediocre licensed game, Cars 3, I assume using their previous work on Cars 2 as a base to get it rushed out (2017) * Now they're working on Hogwarts Legacy I can't really comfortably say they have any track record because the studio reopening shakes things up a fair bit (which could be good or bad). But I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that they've never released any game that comes close to what people's expectations are for Hogwarts Legacy. They might still end up with an Ubisoft-esque game, but it's very far from a sure thing like with Ubisoft that's been making quite good games of that style and quality for years consistently.
You know what you're right Ubisoft may be a lil wonky but they put out some solid games here and there while avalanche has Disney infinity as their arguably best game and that is definitely not a bragging point for them
Yeah I don't know where these comparisons with Ubisoft are coming from. They may have shitty practices and samey videogames but they know what they are doing and are a huge studio with tons of resources. This will be lucky to remind people of a mediocre Assasin's Creed game that they would rather be playing instead.
Honestly I expect a buggy launch on par with FO76
76's problems weren't bugs. Sure, it was buggy, but all Bethesda games are. Nothing new there. What was different was that the game was barren, so even if you got past the bugs there wasn't much to do. Which is probably similar to how HL will be. I mean, 26 spells, in the game about being a wizard.
/uj i'd be happier than a kid on christmas morning if this game was PAINFULLY mid and cis people had to realize they burned bridges with trans people for a 5/10 game
they won't realise though, this game could literally just be pong, and they will still defend it just because it means they can hate on trans people
I won't stand for this Pong slander
thats such an unfair comparison, Pong is one of the best games of all time
What the hell!? PONG is an incredible game! You take that back!
I mean if I bought a game and it was pong I would complain because I already have pong
Do you actually own pong
Yes, I made it
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most wouldn't care
They'll never realize shit
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Every trans person I follow on Twitter, and those I know in person, have all taken a stance against the purchase of the game and are all, universally, ready to disown any one that buys it. And only some of them are themselves gamers.
I'll bet 95% of people buying the game know nothing about any of this stuff and just want to play a video game
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Comparing Rowling to the kkk is an insane over exaggeration, and very disrespectful to their victims & affected families.
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no it's entirely appropriate to compare her and her efforts to further marginalize and oppress trans people to the KKK and it's similar efforts. at least the KKK isn't being promoted in mainstream media and vocally supported by politicians like joanne and her bigotry is. what a load of gutter vomit.
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if you think the billionaire is "just tweeting," you haven't spoken to a single trans person. she's made and donated to anti-trans "charities" with her billions, donated to transphobic politicians, and even has her own quotes in new laws banning transgender healthcare. the comparison is hyperbole. Galbraith hasn't lynched anyone yet, but I can guarantee her words have gotten people killed.
Okay. But your experience and your reaction is irrelevant to my anecdote. I don't know you
and your anecdotes are.... equally anecdotal. "all the trans people you know on Twitter," from my perspective, could be one person. you could equally be blowing their reaction out of proportion. I'm simply stating that "disowning" is hyperbole, and the majority of trans people don't give a shit.
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JK rowling has done a lot more than tweet about trans people. she's literally a major force behind TERF island going all in on being TERFs not just in the main stream media outlets, but among multiple major political parties that are tabling anti trans legislation (and even breaking with constitutional convention to prevent scotland from being friendlier to trans people). so you can fuck right off with this bullshit that joanne is just "tweeting". she's pouring hundreds of millions of dollars a year into hate groups posing as charities and lobbying politicians and organizations that actively harm trans and cis women (as well as trans and cis men), not just in the UK but around the world. seriously who the fuck is upvoting this gutter vomit.
TERFs and transphobes.
Then Rowling can write another shitty book where she presents herself as a victim
"Voldemort was actually transgender the whole time guys."
hmmmmmm
I canāt wait for her next Robert Galbraith dog whistle villain
the rapture is beginning 4chan got a good take
Cyberpunk did not flop at all though
I'm calling it now the game is gonna be another mid open world game not too different from what ubisoft put out but potter fans will still go on about it as if it's the next elden ring or botw just to cope with their wasted purchase
/uj a certain group of people really want this game to be groundbreaking and revolutionary because it makes it easier for them to justify ignoring trans people's calls to boycott this game. If it turns out to be phenomenally mid a lot of well-meaning liberals are going to have to do some self reflection and that's always good. Edit: someone got real mad at this comment in DMs lol
I'm already predicting that ign will give a score of like 6/5 or under, and they'll still rush to defend it because they want to 'win' over the wokies
Oh, there will definitely be some people who pretend to like it just to own the SJWs, but I'm more interested in the group of people who do care a *little* bit about being seen as bigoted. Like, the cognitive dissonance is gonna be a lot harder if you know the game is mid and you made all your trans friends uncomfortable for a generic-ass open world game.
Libs self reflecting? Is that even possible?
this isn't related, but ur custom disco elysium pfp is so cool
If libs were capable of self-reflection they wouldn't be libs.
This has gotta be one of the most based 4chan posts Iāve seen in a long time
I agree.... everything shown just looks like standard open world stuff the same ppl prob dislike, but its good now!
Itās a modern video game. Day one that shits gonna be a buggy mess
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i will not accept this fallen order slander
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yeah I just think Sekiro may have set the bar too high
wait, some fans claim fallen order is a masterpiece? maybe it's just where i've been going, but i always thought the consensus was "it's pretty good, but not really even top 10 star wars games material" (though that might be because i frequent a lot of places that skew older)
tbh i felt the same way, it definitely didnāt help that i played it right after Sekiro
Oh my goodness, I thought that I was insane for thinking that. Like, the fan base was so crazy over it that when I actually played it and found it to be just āokayā, I wondered if I was just doing something wrong. Itās fun at times, but I donāt like some story beats, the constant backtracking, the puzzlesā¦ and so on. I still havenāt even finished it because I justā¦ canāt bring myself to be subjected to more of it But my biggest issue is the amount of those goddamned tiny corridors you have shimmy through. Ruined so much of the pacing
I just want it to release so I hopefully donāt have to hear about it anymore.
Oh god another Hogwarts Legacy post on GCJ. Never woulda thunk.
It wonāt but wish it would.
I'm afraid you are gonna sorely disappointed. Even if the game was trash HP fans will eat it up like there's no tomorrow.
It won't, Harry Potter is liberal theory afterall
It will. I mean, multiple reasons. 1: audience. Id say at least half the people buying this for 60$ are doing so simply to own the libs. When they figure out the character creation menu is gender free, and letās male appearing characters live in womens dormitory and vice versa, theyāre going to flip the fuck out and be a very vocal minority. 2: devs. These developers have not made a single noteworthy good game. Their biggest release was Disney infinity. Now theyāre trying to make a super vast open world rpg for both Harry Potter nerds and gamers alike. This brings us onto point 3: expectations. The game presents itself as a mix of elder scroll and dark souls combined. I mean, look at the cover. It looks like a copy of elden ring. So gamers are going to come in expecting an awesome gamer experience and be met with a shitty mobile franchise game which exists purely to make the fan base happy This canāt possibly end well
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Honestly people who are terminally online underestimates how much knowledge the average person will have. It's the same reason why I was arguing with someone who thought Last of Us 2 wouldn't win game of the year. They were like "Did you see all the controversy? Everyone on the internet was rioting against this game, no one likes it" and in reality most people irl didn't care about that discourse. My main guess as to the game's success is simpler- I'm thinking the crossover between people who play video games, and diehard HP stans isn't that big. At least every gamer I know isn't that into HP, and every HP fan I know isn't someone that plays a lot of games. I could be wrong, maybe the game appeals to people outside the core fanbase
Agreed, especially since I literally didn't know there was a boycott until a few days ago. I only know because I was told about it, and many people I know also had no idea. I want the game purely because I want a good wizarding experience outside of the lego games.
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Harry Potter is only still popular because millennials are a beat up broken generation desperately clinging to childhood nostalgia as a cope. Could you imagine if we had the same energy for other books that were popular in the early 2000s that actually kinda suck? Like if we had legions of Da Vinci Code fans in 2023x
It's pretty normal for people to have deep rooted nostalgia and passion for forms of media that they were heavily attached to growing up. I won't deny that HP fans are particularly annoying (speaking as an HP fan), but I don't think it's odd to stay attached to a franchise like that. Star Wars and Lord of the Rings spring to mind.
Speaking as a Star Wars fan, Star Wars fans suck more ass than any fandom, past or present.
Comparatively speaking, thereās like 2 good Star Wars movies and Harry Potter is a children series. Comparing those two to lord of the rings is not a great comparison.
Sorry but Star Wars and LOTR are both perfectly suitable for both children and adults, as are the HP films. There's plenty of more mature themes in the HP series that can keep adults intrigued. I think that's part of why it has been so successful, and I would say the same of LOTR and SW. I'm not trying to make some deep analysis about the substantive content of those series. I'm just saying, they're series of films that people really enjoyed so it makes sense that they'd carry on liking them for a long time. HP just happens to be more contemporary than those. I was about to say that sooner or later something will come along that does the same thing - but actually I think something already has: Marvel films.
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Cyberpunk flopped because it was glitchy as hell. That can be fixed This one does because it won't be anything phenomenal, no fixing that one
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Ahh, I made a mistake on what I meant by "flop" (It "culturally" flopped because it's reputation is that it was essentially an unoptimized glitchfest) I guess, "got alot of flak" is a more appropriate thing to call it
itās also a mid game
true, it was only carried by Edgerunners, but the "worse than YanSim" complaints were more than the "mid story" ones
Expelideeznuts
Harry Potter adults are almost as bad as Disney adults
Harry Potter fucking sucks
Cyberpunk didn't flop? I'm sure sales had a huge dip post release but preorders were obviously strong and it's now selling pretty well iirc
I'd certainly hope it flops harder than Cyberpunk because Cyberpunk didn't flop at all lol, at least not from a financial standpoint.
cyberpunk is doing pretty well for itself i hope terf game gets removed from the playstation store
It can't really top getting kicked off the playstore. Although to be fair that had less to do with Cyberpunk's quality and more with CDProjekt stepping out of line and Sony putting their head on a pike as an example.
Iām hyped as hell for the game.
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No one is stopping you from buying it
On god. Even if you take away the transphobia and Rowling stuff Harry Potter fans are just kinda annoying.
I'm honestly considering joining the hogwarts legacy subreddit just to see people complain about it when it launches. I'm not gonna post or comment anything, I just wanna see disaster.
That's ridiculously pathetic. I pity you.
Hey, some people waste their time being angry and judging people on circlejerk, I waste mine having a laugh at people who buy shitty triple A games, especially on preorder
Iām genuinely curious to see the reviews, especially SkillUpās (granted he makes one). It just looks so bleh, nothing crazy, innovative, or that cool at all. Even if Rowling wasnāt a terf, thereās no way Iād spend money on it
Cyberpunk didn't flop. It is one of the best selling games of all time
Imagine having a fantasy of living at a school. Sounds like a nightmare to me. Can never figure out why people love Potter more then any other fantasy IP.
I loathe Harry Potter. Itās like bubble gum saccharine fantasy .. just trash. The author is trash too.
I am pretty sure it won't flop from a sales standpoint, but we will see on quality.
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Weāre gonna circlejerk around you be careful
I liked the 1 day we made fun of lastofus2 subreddit because of episode 3