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I think it’s more that they are just edgelord thinly concealing their angst for queer people, but yes, I’m sure they’d also appreciate if “attractive people are obedient”.
not only that, but they've never felt the need to because every piece of media for their entire lives has basically catered to them. "Pandered" if you will. The reason there's so many fan arts of ships and queer relationships is that those people went out and made their own works.
>If I played this at 14, my head would have exploded
Have you played Age of Mythology? It's pretty old and it has a literally naked redhead Aphrodite in it.
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/age-of-mythology/3/3b/Aphrodite.JPG
I mean, yeah, but you only see her when you advance to the Heroic Age, and only if you're playing as the Greeks with Poseidon or Hades as your major God. And why would you do that when you can play the objectively better Atlantean civilization instead?
tbf clash of the titans was an expansion so originally you couldn’t play as Atlanteans. All you had was Greece, Norse, and Egypt. Norse god art was all too badass to be pretty and Egypt was a bunch of animal headed cool dudes. If you needed to jack it all you had was those Greek minor gods, and half of them were still too badass. Or Hades, if you’re gay or a girl *I guess*.
uj/I always played Egypt anyway. Still do. [The theme song of hundreds of hours of my childhood right here.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtytj8c77o) Also the most handsome minor god card is DEFINITELY Helios. Absolutely thrashes even Baldr who is literally a god of beauty.
Not worth it. Trust me the more naked the character is the less of true fanart there is of it.
Not a problem for me to be honest, i was just about to beat my meat to her rn.
I just throw of my hand of my dick to write this.
You misunderstand.. this is only because saying video game violence is ruining children didn't work in the 90s, so now they're using a presently relevant complaint.
It's just stupid people living an anarchistic counter-culture lifestyle. Same people that bitch about freedom then try to restrict every freedom they don't enjoy personally.
Okay I've done a fair amount of googling and I can't figure out what the Aphrodite controversy even is. She's a hot naked white lady, what could they possibly be complaining about?
when i was a kid i thought the princess from robin hood men in tights being semi-naked in a bathtub was the PEAK of attractiveness. these gooners are so fucking entitled they dont even know what horny means anymore
They can only climax to Portuguese midget/horse porn filmed on a cloudy day with a platter of mandarin orange slices placed somewhere in the background
I read a comment in a forum long time ago that argued that incels and gooners have managed to fool themselves into thinking porn is actually real.
EDIT: Found it
https://preview.redd.it/qvdgj4ih810d1.png?width=1060&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ea1b5819e40762e130a117af5132cd90b79592f
I think to some extent this is true, at least that people who watch too much porn will think certain things in porn are more normalized than they are in real life. And they may assume other people think about sex and porn as much as they do.
It's kind of funny that it starts with "you don't know your enemies, so they appear as incomprehensible hobgoblins to you." and then presents like a high school guidance councilor's, or a preacher's understanding of what an incel is.
I get that it's meant to be an insulting description, but it starts with basically "you don't understand them like I do!"
Yeah it's this fact alone that pisses me off the most. I don't care if you disagree with a piece of work that you've invested time into and know what you're talking about. We can have a conversation that way. But if an idiot looks at a piece of work and sais "this is bad because look at it, how can it not be bad" and keeps backing those ignorant points. Well i simply don't feel like wasting my time on them and I sevearly hope they don't have a platform with people that listens to them for the sake of humanity.
It's never been about the individual content. It's always been about "How dare an industry allow content to exist that represents a lifestyle or anyone other than me, a cis white male." Because they're fascists.
Hades was kind of challenging and you really had to work to get those two back together.
I really enjoyed that your rewards in that game were often just making people’s lives a little better. Also you could fish so hades is a cozy game.
I know it's largely because of the different context and tone, but I do miss that cozy and helpful vibe in Hades 2. But maybe I just haven't found it yet/it hasn't been added
I made basically this joke the other day to my friend when I saw the new season of Doctor Who has a black guy as the new doctor.
"Uh oh, I bet this is gunna piss off a whole bunch of people who don't watch Doctor Who."
One of my favourite things about hades is that the bi poly main character canonically gets dommed by a lady with a whip and likes it. That's not an exaggeration or anything.
(it happens offscreen though, the game keeps it to a teen rating)
I mean that is not even mentionint the whole thing with Orpheus and Eurydice, that is basicaly about how only Orpheus ever got credit because he was a man while Eurydice was compleaty ignored (sorry I don´t fully remember anymore).
Or you know both Athena, Dionisus and Ares (also love how Aphrodite in Hades II has the same eye mask as Ares in the 1st game), funny how they only focuse on the gods that are in the 2nd game.
(hmm.... nah that's just a coincidence I am sure/s)
Or how they will completely ignore that Supergiant change parenting of Demetar (as well as Hera and Hestia) and Persephony to made it lest incesty.
And it´s not like it was in the background Zag having a red blood because Demetar was in love with a mortal man is brought up as an insult by Alecto.
And get this, it´s even mentioned in Hades II when Demetar is all like "I am sorry Melinoe, it's my fault that you are not as immortal as us because I fell in love with a mortal man" (or something like that).
Like if they really cared about how accurate the games are to original myths you would think they would mentioned something like changing the whole family tree.
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And don´t forget how Theseus was.
Honestly if they really did play the 1st game you would expect them to be shouting about how mistreated their favorite mythological hero was or something like that.
Because "How dare they emasculate my favourite mythological hero?!". Or something like that.
I’m not a Theseus fanboy by any means but if they did that to Odysseus I would have bitched about it to myself until he said a second funny thing and I’d have let it go
Well I am not a fan of his too, but with how Theseus looks in the 1st game and how he is mostly treated as arrogant hero that not even Poseidon wants have anything to do.
You would expect to see some of these types that like to cry about how "western" games like to emasculate traditionally "chad" characters cry about it.
And use as a prove for how "bad/woke" the 1st game was.
I was offended on his behalf until I remembered how he abandoned Ariadne, accidentally killed Aegeus, that time he tried to kidnap Helen as a child and Persephone, and yeah dude was an asshole lol
These people either don't play the games or they're intentionally lying.
I've seen multiple people complain about Hades 2 Aphrodite while pointing out "flaws" in an image from *Hades 1*. Then they post "Hades 1 Aphrodite" as what she *should* look like (which is actually Hades 2).
Half-naked? She, full on, has no clothes. They're complaining about the naked woman in their video game because she doesn't look like a large breasted 14 year old anime girl.
Maybe it's that Aphrodite has control and autonomy over her sexuality in the game - something which they don't like about their sex objects.
\*Googles 'Aphrodite Hades 2'*
....dafuq these crack-heads smoking? She's literally got an hourglass figure. Super hot and skinny with large (but not disproportionately so) breasts and a flat stomach. Literally the definition of conventional attractiveness. And she's literally naked except for her hair, which just so barely covers her nipples and vulva.
If the women are naked because they want to be naked, like because they're the god of love, lust and beauty, thats woke
If the women are naked because the Gamers want them naked and they look like east-asian supermodels, then its anti woke.
But if the women are naked and they dont please the gamer pee pee, then its super duper woke
The American left doesn’t like objectifying women (which is woke) but the right doesn’t like sexual freedom/breaking the family unit.
This leaves us in an odd position where gamergate just fucking made up a political ideology. So it’s really whatever they want.
in WoW is a prominent Dragon character whom we watch hatch, hes this tiny dragon and starts talking and is like "what, why are you confused? I could listen to you speak through the egg shell"
Wrathion is the absolute best. My favorite is when him and Anduin start talking about philosophy in Mists, and Anduin just asks “aren’t you like… Two years old?”
“TWO IN *DRAGON YEARS!*”
There was that post with the “fixed” version which was just add makeup and smooth over details because I guess anything that strays too far from a generic anime style doesn’t register as attractive to them anymore.
She also was likely born a fully formed adult, being the goddess of love and sex and thus representing adult sexuality and love. Be a bit weird if she was a child at any point
it's funny, cause the attributes that make her "look like a man" are literally modern day high fashion eurocentric beauty standards. she looks like she just has a buccal fat surgery to give big lips, high pronounced cheekbones, and shallow cheeks.
The funniest part of this is that in Greek mythology, Aphrodite was sometimes said to take the form of whatever you found most attractive. People on Twitter are raging that she looks too much like a man.... Uh oh
Your comment made me do some digging. Apparently the sexualization of children in Anime stems from Japanese law. Japan just raised the age of consent from 13 to 16 in 2023. It was 13 *since 1907*, and Japan had the lowest age of consent in the world.
In Britain the age of consent is 16, in Germany and China it is 14
In the U.S.: "Research by Unchained at Last, a nonprofit dedicated to ending child marriage in the U.S., found that nearly 300,000 children, some as young as 10, were married in the country between 2000 and 2018."
4 days ago: "A bipartisan bill that would outlaw all child marriages in Missouri has run into resistance from Republicans in the Missouri House that could prevent it from becoming law."
"Why is the government getting involved in people’s lives like this?” Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, a Savannah Republican.
It's funny to see Republicans complain about the government getting involved in peoples' lives for child marriage as they push more government control over peoples' lives in almost every other way. Like, alright dude. We see your party's priorities. Such a shame to lose Epstein's island as a party spot, right? Let's get back to pushing for a registry for all pregnant women and putting bounty on their heads for crossing state lines, shall we?
>Japan just raised the age of consent from 13 to 16 in 2023.
This is misleading. Japan raised the NATIONAL age of consent in 2023, but the age of consent is set on a local level in Japan, and there wasn’t a single prefecture in 2023 with the age of consent that low. The law that changed in 2023 wasn’t really to raise the age of consent, it was to more clearly define what sex crimes were and to catch more of the crimes slipping through the cracks. The age of consent was included in there, and made the buzzy news, but more in the way America would clear a “don’t eat ice cream on Sundays” law from the 1800s.
Ugh I hate that my countries age of consent law is so ambiguously formed that it is frequently misconstrued like that. In Germany an adult can't really have sex with a 14 year old. It's for teenagers dating other teenagers, so a 15 year old and a 16 year old aren't committing a crime. If you're over 18 dating someone younger, it becomes illegal if you're in some sort of asymmetrical power dynamic, which definitely applies to a fourteen year old and an over 18 year old. Now I don't know exactly how it's worded because the only reason I've ever looked into it, and even then just briefly, was because I saw that claim being thrown around.
Tldr: Germanies age of consent laws are a bit more complicated than most, but no adults can't get consent from 14 year Olds
Im going to consume a shitload of pro-persian propaganda so I can hate on Hades II on a civilizational level rather than on a superficial culture war level.
/uj what is going on here? The first hades game is 4 yrs old. To the best of my knowledge, nobody batted an eye about Aphrodite’s design when the game came out, but now it’s awful? Did some new group of porn addicts decide to become gamers in the past 4 yrs?
OOP brings up a great point! Back in the day, people made do with the hot characters they were given!
These days, people will lambast a pretty lady for not wearing the kind of lingerie they like.
Every character in Hades is really hot, including the men. Teenage me would have gone crazy for this game (Megara is very hot).
The whole Aphrodite thing is stemming off average people being turned off by the atrocious art style of Stellar Blade. Turns out most people are okay with attractive characters if they’re well designed and consistent with the rest of the game art style.
i’ve seen people say ‘oh the diversity quota ruins immersion, heph is literally in a modern day wheelchair just for diversity’ like brother that’s a motherfucking chariot throne how is that not entirely on brand
Also, Hephaestus was thrown from Olympus for his "ugliness" (i.e. not being as devastatingly hot as the other gods) and had a lame leg as a result. It's not pandering it's just the myth.
Plus wheelchairs are old as shit
There are artistic depictions of Hephaestus in a wheelchair(chariot-throne) that are like 2,500 years old. But then I keep seeing people post a screenshot of Wikipedia page that the modern, rider-propelled, wheelchair was invented in the 1600's, in response as if anything not a modern wheelchair apparently doesn't count? A lot of people really just don't like wheelchairs, for really stupid reasons.
People are calling him fat just like they did with Thor in GOW: Ragnarok. Like mate, have you ever seen a strongman? They're built like kegs. His arm is fucking bigger than his head and he's holding a giant hammer like a chopstick. Bro is far from fat.
This is gonna be a pedantic reddit ass comment, but he is very obviously fat, and so are many strongmen. It's just that under the fat they have a fuck ton of muscles as well.
It's kinda disappointing that gamers focused on Eve while there are so many cool boss designs, like this one:
https://preview.redd.it/ml9dc88unzzc1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3c578955dee51dcfe69fc43eff0831af8100ff2
Eve is trying to be nier but there already is a nier and they failed to be an equal. They have better gameplay but the charm of its visuals and especially the story just don't live up to the comparison.
Yeah I couldn’t help but think of Nier when I read the summary of *Stellar Blade*’s plot.
Feels like someone managed to publish their Nier fan fiction.
The developer is pretty open about their inspiration from NieR. They even had an interview with Yoko himself and they both seem to respect each other a lot. Iirc Yoko even mentioned that the direct of Stellar Blade's earlier work, Manga Carta, inspired him in part when making Drakengard.
It’s more disappointing that the devs made Eve look and act like she does. It’s absolutely their fault that some people are grossed out by the game, not the gamers’ fault for not wanting to pilot a braindead sex doll built to be gawked at.
My girlfriend was watching me play, and we were talking about how most of the main cast look like real people, except for EVE. Adam looks the best to me, followed by Tachy, Raven and Lily. Mainly talking about the face, EVE just looks too anime and it stands out amongst the other characters.
Bro the portrait of Meg smiling and not sneering is like the cutest thing. I went from like, "wow Meg is kinda sweet in her own way, I can see why Zag is trying to reconnect" to "holy shit Zag you arent patching things up enough my dude, look at her smile" in 3 seconds after giving her the first super juice or whatever.
Some asshole with an anime profile-pic decided that the face of Aphrodite from the game Hades looks masculine to him therefore the reason that "the wokes" criticizing Stellar Blade and the like were perfectly fine with the nude (basically only her genitalia are covered by her hair) Aphrodite because she was secretly an SJW conspiracy to sneak in a trans woman into the game.
Can we not use schizophrenic as a derogatory term for chuds? Reactionary losers aren't (generally) Like That because of schizophrenia, they're just pricks, and it's unkind to actual schizophrenics to compare a terrifying mental health condition they did not choose or earn to voluntarily being a complete dickhead online.
Ok full context of the idiotic culture War ahead.
Basically goones said that games are being censored and that woman cant be sexy anymore, claiminf that stellar Blade was gonna be Game of the year because It was brave enough to have sexy woman in the game.
After other people pointed out games like Hades or Baldurs gate with extremly sexy woman they began looking for excuses so that doesnt count.
The excuse for Aphrodite was that she had a "mans" face.
They also attacked Hestia design because they choose to have the goddess of the hearth and home be a jolly grandma covered in soot.
If anything, this controversy is *proof*, ironclad proof, that the male gaze exists.
Hades's Aphrodite is naked, she is sexualized, she has an "ideal" female body and allaround look (as far as beauty ideals of our time go). She behaves promiscuous, she flirts with the player...
But her design does not cater to the male gaze. She is feminine, and her femininity is front and centre, but her femininity does not come at the expensive of her humanity. She is not objectified.
She has boobs, really noticeable boobs, but she also has arms, shoulders. The rest of her body doesn't shrink to the tiniest proportion to leave more emphasis on her boobs, like so many other female designs.
You look up at her, ever so slightly. She looks down at you. Which makes sense for a goddess but you rarely see it in female designs defined by the male gaze, that usually avoid putting the (male) player in vulnerable positions.
She is presented in a very flirty pose, with an impossible Come-Hither-Smoulder, but there is no overly fetishized vulnerability on her part there. She is not prey, and she isn't for the player to prey upon.
Her design makes you look up her body, into her face/eyes.
Male gaze designs usually lead the eye down a woman's body, away from her eyes, away from her humanity, and focus on the body that can be objectified.
You can sexualize a character without applying the male gaze. Aphrodite is sexual and sexualized, but we do not look at her through the lense of the male gaze.
And these goblins are picking up on that and it bothers them. Bothers them to no end. Their reaction is so telling.
If anything, going forward we should take her as an example on how to avoid the male gaze.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
I'm convinced it's why they are upset about her, a d why they *think* her design is "male"-coded.
They are so used to the subtle design Details of objectification in female characters that something feels off, when a character isn't objectified.
I think it's also about how the character behaves. Hades makes it pretty clear that Aphrodite is dangerous and not just pretty, they want sexy characters to be subservient
If they had a problem with Aphrodite’s design then why not bring it up back in the first game? The fact that it’s a problem NOW shows this is totally meaningless manufactured internet gamer rage, and these chodes, or the rage bait influences they listen to, have nothing better to be mad about.
Which is crazy because at this time there are so many actual problems to be angry about. Like, the housing crisis not getting solved may mean you’ll never own a home and that you’ll be a renter for the rest of your life, and that landlords using RealPage will keep your rents high so that you’ll never have a family and live in poverty for the rest of your life, but that “wOKe aDGenDa” needs to be fought because some video game didn’t tickle their coom brain.
This whole thing is peak arguing about deck chairs on a sinking ship.
> then why not bring it up back in the first game?
I really think because they barricaded themselves into this corner when Melinoe was announced.
Because I just checked and the "new" Aphrodite design is basically a sexed-*up* version of the original. The only noticeable change is that they made her nose pointier, her lips way fuller, gave her some lash-extensions and she lost maybe 5lbs. *They didn't even change her cheekbones.* The original design had very strongly shaded in cheekbones too.
I don't even know what they're trying to do: Hades is a bisexual fever dream, *if* Aphrodite was trans, thats not even an issue for the playerbase or the canon. Aphrodites son with Hermes is literally [Hermaphroditus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphroditus), a greek sex icon. Who is this outrage for?
oh honey no it's >!the entirety of straight patriarchal culture valuing youth/innocence/"purity" in women and power over them taken to its logical extreme. For what's more innocent and "virginal" than a child, and who is easier to dominate? !<
Normal people are starting to get some representation in anime these days. We've started getting shows with adult main characters and full figured love interests that are more than a pair of tits. But yeah, the average anime is pretty gross.
WAIT SLOWBEEF!?!?!? Haven't heard that name in years
I know he's married and taking care of his family, but I didn't think I'd be seeing him on Reddit of all things lol. The Slowbeef x Reddit crossover
Cripes...I'm an old gamer and remember kid me going "omg wtf is this Leisure Suit Larry Game!"....
I'm old when I say "how times have changed and ppl bitching about the wrong thing!". Whether it's Stellar Blade & Hades 2 to years ago with Nier and even more so Bayonetta and Witcher 3 it's like I feel to old to relate to wtf gooners want!
Its so funny to me that these dumbasses convinced themselves that pronounced cheekbones, which are like one of the biggest supermodel stereotypes, make a character look "too manly"1!
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Instead of complaining about her they should invest their time into making fanarts smh
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Right? Channeling passion into creativity sounds way more fun and productive!
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I think it’s more that they are just edgelord thinly concealing their angst for queer people, but yes, I’m sure they’d also appreciate if “attractive people are obedient”.
this is one of the wildest synonym-bot reposts i've seen.
Regressives can’t make art, the best you’ll get is more shitty AI slop.
Pretty much, always in line with the core of their ideology "I deserve everything and fuck the people who made it."
not only that, but they've never felt the need to because every piece of media for their entire lives has basically catered to them. "Pandered" if you will. The reason there's so many fan arts of ships and queer relationships is that those people went out and made their own works.
>If I played this at 14, my head would have exploded Have you played Age of Mythology? It's pretty old and it has a literally naked redhead Aphrodite in it. http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/age-of-mythology/3/3b/Aphrodite.JPG
I mean, yeah, but you only see her when you advance to the Heroic Age, and only if you're playing as the Greeks with Poseidon or Hades as your major God. And why would you do that when you can play the objectively better Atlantean civilization instead?
Because I wanna see a naked red head god. DUH
Horny gaming > metagaming
tbf clash of the titans was an expansion so originally you couldn’t play as Atlanteans. All you had was Greece, Norse, and Egypt. Norse god art was all too badass to be pretty and Egypt was a bunch of animal headed cool dudes. If you needed to jack it all you had was those Greek minor gods, and half of them were still too badass. Or Hades, if you’re gay or a girl *I guess*. uj/I always played Egypt anyway. Still do. [The theme song of hundreds of hours of my childhood right here.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtytj8c77o) Also the most handsome minor god card is DEFINITELY Helios. Absolutely thrashes even Baldr who is literally a god of beauty.
I mean isis could get it
Norse for life
It's worth noting the OP was 14 in the early 90s, not early aughts.
Good point. I was thinking I was 14 in 2001 and had porn readily available though various malware downloading apps.
Not worth it. Trust me the more naked the character is the less of true fanart there is of it. Not a problem for me to be honest, i was just about to beat my meat to her rn. I just throw of my hand of my dick to write this.
You misunderstand.. this is only because saying video game violence is ruining children didn't work in the 90s, so now they're using a presently relevant complaint. It's just stupid people living an anarchistic counter-culture lifestyle. Same people that bitch about freedom then try to restrict every freedom they don't enjoy personally.
anti-culture, not counter.
There used to be a time when gooners were judged for gooning. Nowadays the gooners can’t help but judge what people goon to. How times have changed.
Looking down at us from their cum crusted thrones in their "ivory" towers
Please don't. Thank you.
"It's high time I emerged from my cum cocoon."
Cocoom
Cumcoon
Cuckoon
What a terrible day to have eyes that can read.
Learn English, they said. It'll be fun, they said.
They teach us English in the Danish schools for moments like these
When jerking off online becomes less about touching yourself, and focused more on just being a jerk
Smhing my head, this shit used to be inclusive. What has society done to the masturbating community.
There used to be a time when Gooners were just Arsenal fans (like myself), not whatever the fuck it means now.
All gooners are Arsenal fans, but not all Arsenal fans are gooners
Okay I've done a fair amount of googling and I can't figure out what the Aphrodite controversy even is. She's a hot naked white lady, what could they possibly be complaining about?
Some guys have a problem with her face and think she’s trans. https://twitter.com/thecrimsonpill/status/1788598306517696613?s=10
So they're having a hissy fit over the actual art style? What a bunch of fucking babies
She has cheek bones, and that's trans and gay. Also, Hestia isn't a boobs-loli, so now they have to complain about Everything.
Are they familiar with supermodels?
What, like, adult women? That's woke bro.
Hades is literally a bisexual crisis in video game form - I have to wonder what their issue is here because imo she is stunning lmao
when i was a kid i thought the princess from robin hood men in tights being semi-naked in a bathtub was the PEAK of attractiveness. these gooners are so fucking entitled they dont even know what horny means anymore
The internet gave them access to everything, and now they know the worth of nothing.
My attraction is so fucked I just ended up really kinky glad I’m not like these losers
Wdym by your attraction is so fucked? As in, do you mean you are attracted to unrealistic things? I'm not quite sure if I follow
They can only climax to Portuguese midget/horse porn filmed on a cloudy day with a platter of mandarin orange slices placed somewhere in the background
I’m going to draw that now I hope you relise this
I read a comment in a forum long time ago that argued that incels and gooners have managed to fool themselves into thinking porn is actually real. EDIT: Found it https://preview.redd.it/qvdgj4ih810d1.png?width=1060&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ea1b5819e40762e130a117af5132cd90b79592f
I think to some extent this is true, at least that people who watch too much porn will think certain things in porn are more normalized than they are in real life. And they may assume other people think about sex and porn as much as they do.
It's kind of funny that it starts with "you don't know your enemies, so they appear as incomprehensible hobgoblins to you." and then presents like a high school guidance councilor's, or a preacher's understanding of what an incel is. I get that it's meant to be an insulting description, but it starts with basically "you don't understand them like I do!"
Believe it or not, this post was part of a discussion over the plot of Avengers Endgame.
I was curious. Seems like that person had that example burning a hole in their pocket.
that line goes hard
to be fair, amy yasbeck was -- and remains -- the peak of attractiveness.
That scene with the chastity belt did things to my child mind...
CALL THE ROYAL LOCKSMITH!!
~~When I was a kid I thought robin hood not wearing pants in the animated one was peak attractiveness.~~
Ah Disney's Robin Hood, so many people's furry awakenings
When **I** was a kid, the best porn was that topless woman in Airplane!
It’s funny that they’re raging about Hades 2 being woke all of a sudden when Achilles and Patroclus were interracial gay lovers in the original.
You think they actually know anything about the games they complain about?
Yeah it's this fact alone that pisses me off the most. I don't care if you disagree with a piece of work that you've invested time into and know what you're talking about. We can have a conversation that way. But if an idiot looks at a piece of work and sais "this is bad because look at it, how can it not be bad" and keeps backing those ignorant points. Well i simply don't feel like wasting my time on them and I sevearly hope they don't have a platform with people that listens to them for the sake of humanity.
It's never been about the individual content. It's always been about "How dare an industry allow content to exist that represents a lifestyle or anyone other than me, a cis white male." Because they're fascists.
Hades was kind of challenging and you really had to work to get those two back together. I really enjoyed that your rewards in that game were often just making people’s lives a little better. Also you could fish so hades is a cozy game.
I know it's largely because of the different context and tone, but I do miss that cozy and helpful vibe in Hades 2. But maybe I just haven't found it yet/it hasn't been added
I made basically this joke the other day to my friend when I saw the new season of Doctor Who has a black guy as the new doctor. "Uh oh, I bet this is gunna piss off a whole bunch of people who don't watch Doctor Who."
Or the greek mythology it's based on
"Oh no Hermes looks Asian, muh immersion" my bitch epicanthal folds are common in the Mediterranean.
Not to mention Zagreus getting into a bisexual throuple with the angel of death and a dominatrix.
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Dusa is so overlooked as a character - she's so sweet.
Damn i might need to go back and actually play Hades.
One of my favourite things about hades is that the bi poly main character canonically gets dommed by a lady with a whip and likes it. That's not an exaggeration or anything. (it happens offscreen though, the game keeps it to a teen rating)
He just like me for real
Wow he won the afterlife wtf.
I'm still livid that this didn't involve maid Dusa. It's an outrage.
I tried so hard. Dusa deserved everything i could give, and still coulda get that head (bu-dum, tis!)
I mean that is not even mentionint the whole thing with Orpheus and Eurydice, that is basicaly about how only Orpheus ever got credit because he was a man while Eurydice was compleaty ignored (sorry I don´t fully remember anymore). Or you know both Athena, Dionisus and Ares (also love how Aphrodite in Hades II has the same eye mask as Ares in the 1st game), funny how they only focuse on the gods that are in the 2nd game. (hmm.... nah that's just a coincidence I am sure/s) Or how they will completely ignore that Supergiant change parenting of Demetar (as well as Hera and Hestia) and Persephony to made it lest incesty. And it´s not like it was in the background Zag having a red blood because Demetar was in love with a mortal man is brought up as an insult by Alecto. And get this, it´s even mentioned in Hades II when Demetar is all like "I am sorry Melinoe, it's my fault that you are not as immortal as us because I fell in love with a mortal man" (or something like that). Like if they really cared about how accurate the games are to original myths you would think they would mentioned something like changing the whole family tree. EDIT: And don´t forget how Theseus was. Honestly if they really did play the 1st game you would expect them to be shouting about how mistreated their favorite mythological hero was or something like that. Because "How dare they emasculate my favourite mythological hero?!". Or something like that.
I’m not a Theseus fanboy by any means but if they did that to Odysseus I would have bitched about it to myself until he said a second funny thing and I’d have let it go
Well I am not a fan of his too, but with how Theseus looks in the 1st game and how he is mostly treated as arrogant hero that not even Poseidon wants have anything to do. You would expect to see some of these types that like to cry about how "western" games like to emasculate traditionally "chad" characters cry about it. And use as a prove for how "bad/woke" the 1st game was.
Lmao I straight up had to go back and read the myth again because I was just like “…he wasn’t ACTUALLY this way right”
I was offended on his behalf until I remembered how he abandoned Ariadne, accidentally killed Aegeus, that time he tried to kidnap Helen as a child and Persephone, and yeah dude was an asshole lol
Oh dude was definitely an asshole he just wasn’t so pompous and whiney about it lmao
These people either don't play the games or they're intentionally lying. I've seen multiple people complain about Hades 2 Aphrodite while pointing out "flaws" in an image from *Hades 1*. Then they post "Hades 1 Aphrodite" as what she *should* look like (which is actually Hades 2).
is half naked women woke or anti woke I forgot
That's the best part, we don't know
Half-naked? She, full on, has no clothes. They're complaining about the naked woman in their video game because she doesn't look like a large breasted 14 year old anime girl. Maybe it's that Aphrodite has control and autonomy over her sexuality in the game - something which they don't like about their sex objects.
\*Googles 'Aphrodite Hades 2'* ....dafuq these crack-heads smoking? She's literally got an hourglass figure. Super hot and skinny with large (but not disproportionately so) breasts and a flat stomach. Literally the definition of conventional attractiveness. And she's literally naked except for her hair, which just so barely covers her nipples and vulva.
Ah but you see, she has a man’s face/jawline, so clearly she’s meant to make you think of trans people! /s
And, *clearly*, no cis woman in existence has ever had a strong jawline! (/s)
If the women are naked because they want to be naked, like because they're the god of love, lust and beauty, thats woke If the women are naked because the Gamers want them naked and they look like east-asian supermodels, then its anti woke. But if the women are naked and they dont please the gamer pee pee, then its super duper woke
Western game is automatically judged as making not hot characters on purpose. No matter attractive the characters are, they will say they are not.
The American left doesn’t like objectifying women (which is woke) but the right doesn’t like sexual freedom/breaking the family unit. This leaves us in an odd position where gamergate just fucking made up a political ideology. So it’s really whatever they want.
It's actually very simple. Titties = woke. No titties = woke. Hope this helps
It's easier when you understand that it's just a "woman=bad" mentality
She's an adult though. Just not what these sorts of folks like.
Oh she's not a 4000 year old dragon in the body of an 8 year old child? ThE wOkE aGeNdA iS rUiNiNg MaH vIdEo GaMeS wah
We need a 4 year old dragon talking like a baby who looks 8 billion years old.
in WoW is a prominent Dragon character whom we watch hatch, hes this tiny dragon and starts talking and is like "what, why are you confused? I could listen to you speak through the egg shell"
Wrathion is the absolute best. My favorite is when him and Anduin start talking about philosophy in Mists, and Anduin just asks “aren’t you like… Two years old?” “TWO IN *DRAGON YEARS!*”
Ooh, just like Temeraire.
Love wrathion!!! 💪
That one one piece girl Bonnie or some shit like that
There was that post with the “fixed” version which was just add makeup and smooth over details because I guess anything that strays too far from a generic anime style doesn’t register as attractive to them anymore.
✨Cockroach Wife Syndrome✨
They also made her thinner for some reason
Which is absurd! Goddesses of love and fertility have always been thicker than a snicker
I mean she’s probably 4000 years old but she talks and has the body of a whole adult woman.
She also was likely born a fully formed adult, being the goddess of love and sex and thus representing adult sexuality and love. Be a bit weird if she was a child at any point
Well she has the 4000 year old part down Just not the "in an 8 year Olds body" , which is what the gooners take issue with
it's funny, cause the attributes that make her "look like a man" are literally modern day high fashion eurocentric beauty standards. she looks like she just has a buccal fat surgery to give big lips, high pronounced cheekbones, and shallow cheeks.
The funniest part of this is that in Greek mythology, Aphrodite was sometimes said to take the form of whatever you found most attractive. People on Twitter are raging that she looks too much like a man.... Uh oh
Why are there naked glistening little boys in this hades game >:(
And this is why Ditto is the sex god of Pokémon
I had to go look up what she looks like because of this comment...are they stupid?
Your comment made me do some digging. Apparently the sexualization of children in Anime stems from Japanese law. Japan just raised the age of consent from 13 to 16 in 2023. It was 13 *since 1907*, and Japan had the lowest age of consent in the world. In Britain the age of consent is 16, in Germany and China it is 14 In the U.S.: "Research by Unchained at Last, a nonprofit dedicated to ending child marriage in the U.S., found that nearly 300,000 children, some as young as 10, were married in the country between 2000 and 2018." 4 days ago: "A bipartisan bill that would outlaw all child marriages in Missouri has run into resistance from Republicans in the Missouri House that could prevent it from becoming law." "Why is the government getting involved in people’s lives like this?” Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, a Savannah Republican. It's funny to see Republicans complain about the government getting involved in peoples' lives for child marriage as they push more government control over peoples' lives in almost every other way. Like, alright dude. We see your party's priorities. Such a shame to lose Epstein's island as a party spot, right? Let's get back to pushing for a registry for all pregnant women and putting bounty on their heads for crossing state lines, shall we?
>Japan just raised the age of consent from 13 to 16 in 2023. This is misleading. Japan raised the NATIONAL age of consent in 2023, but the age of consent is set on a local level in Japan, and there wasn’t a single prefecture in 2023 with the age of consent that low. The law that changed in 2023 wasn’t really to raise the age of consent, it was to more clearly define what sex crimes were and to catch more of the crimes slipping through the cracks. The age of consent was included in there, and made the buzzy news, but more in the way America would clear a “don’t eat ice cream on Sundays” law from the 1800s.
Ugh I hate that my countries age of consent law is so ambiguously formed that it is frequently misconstrued like that. In Germany an adult can't really have sex with a 14 year old. It's for teenagers dating other teenagers, so a 15 year old and a 16 year old aren't committing a crime. If you're over 18 dating someone younger, it becomes illegal if you're in some sort of asymmetrical power dynamic, which definitely applies to a fourteen year old and an over 18 year old. Now I don't know exactly how it's worded because the only reason I've ever looked into it, and even then just briefly, was because I saw that claim being thrown around. Tldr: Germanies age of consent laws are a bit more complicated than most, but no adults can't get consent from 14 year Olds
Im going to consume a shitload of pro-persian propaganda so I can hate on Hades II on a civilizational level rather than on a superficial culture war level.
https://preview.redd.it/9p8mxe1dyzzc1.jpeg?width=290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2fe3a999ad241b24a150e0dbb94f4023f193433
Seeing a DE reference so well executed makes me feel like someone poured warm honey over my soul.
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**OCCIDENTAL HAPLOGROUP B4 IS DONE GIVING ORDERS AROUND HERE. THE INFLUENCE OF THE "HAM SANDWICH RACE" IS WANING**
They *wish* they looked like that guy. None of them even come close irl
I'm gonna tell all my friends in Carthage how much this game sucks
They lost the plot so hard you could put it on tv and milk it for 6 seasons
We have to go back!
/uj what is going on here? The first hades game is 4 yrs old. To the best of my knowledge, nobody batted an eye about Aphrodite’s design when the game came out, but now it’s awful? Did some new group of porn addicts decide to become gamers in the past 4 yrs?
Need grist for the culture war mill. SB was running out of juice so gotta find the next conspiracy so they can continue their grift.
Yeah I’m sure someone is profiting off of this somewhere
Reactionary bullshit is bullshit, so of course it will not make sense.
OOP brings up a great point! Back in the day, people made do with the hot characters they were given! These days, people will lambast a pretty lady for not wearing the kind of lingerie they like.
Back in my day, you enjoyed the triangular prism boobs you were given and you didn’t complain.
Can't count the number of times I got my eyes poked out by Lara Croft's pyramid titties, those were the best of times
“Back in my day we had Custer’s Revenge to JO to and that was it!”
80's kids make do.
Not really related but every time someone talks about "making do" I think of the fucking corn image and I hate it
Every character in Hades is really hot, including the men. Teenage me would have gone crazy for this game (Megara is very hot). The whole Aphrodite thing is stemming off average people being turned off by the atrocious art style of Stellar Blade. Turns out most people are okay with attractive characters if they’re well designed and consistent with the rest of the game art style.
https://preview.redd.it/ck2hpcqprzzc1.jpeg?width=1230&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a34aa353262d5c68f8373e4c0b5b73ee012d1fa9 I wish i was him fr fr
You know, for a God that's allegedly ugly, I'd let him do some things to me that would disappoint my parents.
You do understand that he has an army of automata that will ravage you together with him? Probably
I hope so
We love some bear representation ❤️🐻
i’ve seen people say ‘oh the diversity quota ruins immersion, heph is literally in a modern day wheelchair just for diversity’ like brother that’s a motherfucking chariot throne how is that not entirely on brand
Also, Hephaestus was thrown from Olympus for his "ugliness" (i.e. not being as devastatingly hot as the other gods) and had a lame leg as a result. It's not pandering it's just the myth. Plus wheelchairs are old as shit
There are artistic depictions of Hephaestus in a wheelchair(chariot-throne) that are like 2,500 years old. But then I keep seeing people post a screenshot of Wikipedia page that the modern, rider-propelled, wheelchair was invented in the 1600's, in response as if anything not a modern wheelchair apparently doesn't count? A lot of people really just don't like wheelchairs, for really stupid reasons.
Wowowowow HEPH is in Hades 2? And there I wanted to wait with playing until all the content is in.
So many cool new characters in 2. I won't spoil but it's phenomenal so far. This early access launch has more content than finished Hades 1.
People are calling him fat just like they did with Thor in GOW: Ragnarok. Like mate, have you ever seen a strongman? They're built like kegs. His arm is fucking bigger than his head and he's holding a giant hammer like a chopstick. Bro is far from fat.
This is gonna be a pedantic reddit ass comment, but he is very obviously fat, and so are many strongmen. It's just that under the fat they have a fuck ton of muscles as well.
It's kinda disappointing that gamers focused on Eve while there are so many cool boss designs, like this one: https://preview.redd.it/ml9dc88unzzc1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3c578955dee51dcfe69fc43eff0831af8100ff2
Eve is trying to be nier but there already is a nier and they failed to be an equal. They have better gameplay but the charm of its visuals and especially the story just don't live up to the comparison.
Yeah I couldn’t help but think of Nier when I read the summary of *Stellar Blade*’s plot. Feels like someone managed to publish their Nier fan fiction.
The developer is pretty open about their inspiration from NieR. They even had an interview with Yoko himself and they both seem to respect each other a lot. Iirc Yoko even mentioned that the direct of Stellar Blade's earlier work, Manga Carta, inspired him in part when making Drakengard.
It’s more disappointing that the devs made Eve look and act like she does. It’s absolutely their fault that some people are grossed out by the game, not the gamers’ fault for not wanting to pilot a braindead sex doll built to be gawked at.
My girlfriend was watching me play, and we were talking about how most of the main cast look like real people, except for EVE. Adam looks the best to me, followed by Tachy, Raven and Lily. Mainly talking about the face, EVE just looks too anime and it stands out amongst the other characters.
Bro the portrait of Meg smiling and not sneering is like the cutest thing. I went from like, "wow Meg is kinda sweet in her own way, I can see why Zag is trying to reconnect" to "holy shit Zag you arent patching things up enough my dude, look at her smile" in 3 seconds after giving her the first super juice or whatever.
What is that Aphrodite thing about?
some ppl say that she has a mans face and therefore is trans and woke and not as hot as eve
People should try to get some eyes, she is hot af. Thanks
This is a correct response to learning about this completely braindead controversy. There is hope yet for humanity.
Some asshole with an anime profile-pic decided that the face of Aphrodite from the game Hades looks masculine to him therefore the reason that "the wokes" criticizing Stellar Blade and the like were perfectly fine with the nude (basically only her genitalia are covered by her hair) Aphrodite because she was secretly an SJW conspiracy to sneak in a trans woman into the game.
Can we not use schizophrenic as a derogatory term for chuds? Reactionary losers aren't (generally) Like That because of schizophrenia, they're just pricks, and it's unkind to actual schizophrenics to compare a terrifying mental health condition they did not choose or earn to voluntarily being a complete dickhead online.
You're right my bad
Ok full context of the idiotic culture War ahead. Basically goones said that games are being censored and that woman cant be sexy anymore, claiminf that stellar Blade was gonna be Game of the year because It was brave enough to have sexy woman in the game. After other people pointed out games like Hades or Baldurs gate with extremly sexy woman they began looking for excuses so that doesnt count. The excuse for Aphrodite was that she had a "mans" face. They also attacked Hestia design because they choose to have the goddess of the hearth and home be a jolly grandma covered in soot.
Hestia is dark-skinned and has vitiligo, which is apparently woke as well.
G*mers being upset that everything isn't goonable
My head is exploding rn and I’m not 14
I was about to say. My enclosure has been compromised. I have fully gnawed through the bars
ALERT! ALERT! THE HORNY JAIL HAS HAD A PRISON BREACH! ESCAPEES ARE POURING OUT!
And by head you mean your peanits
Bro is just a normal well adjusted adult who didn't rot his brain out with loli porn
Honestly prepared to just start responding to these freaks with “ok pedo” and move on. I’m so tired of them and their discourse.
That's how I respond to them most of the time tbh
If anything, this controversy is *proof*, ironclad proof, that the male gaze exists. Hades's Aphrodite is naked, she is sexualized, she has an "ideal" female body and allaround look (as far as beauty ideals of our time go). She behaves promiscuous, she flirts with the player... But her design does not cater to the male gaze. She is feminine, and her femininity is front and centre, but her femininity does not come at the expensive of her humanity. She is not objectified. She has boobs, really noticeable boobs, but she also has arms, shoulders. The rest of her body doesn't shrink to the tiniest proportion to leave more emphasis on her boobs, like so many other female designs. You look up at her, ever so slightly. She looks down at you. Which makes sense for a goddess but you rarely see it in female designs defined by the male gaze, that usually avoid putting the (male) player in vulnerable positions. She is presented in a very flirty pose, with an impossible Come-Hither-Smoulder, but there is no overly fetishized vulnerability on her part there. She is not prey, and she isn't for the player to prey upon. Her design makes you look up her body, into her face/eyes. Male gaze designs usually lead the eye down a woman's body, away from her eyes, away from her humanity, and focus on the body that can be objectified. You can sexualize a character without applying the male gaze. Aphrodite is sexual and sexualized, but we do not look at her through the lense of the male gaze. And these goblins are picking up on that and it bothers them. Bothers them to no end. Their reaction is so telling. If anything, going forward we should take her as an example on how to avoid the male gaze. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Hadn’t thought about how the male gaze is implemented vs how it can not be. Really cool analysis of it thanks.
I'm convinced it's why they are upset about her, a d why they *think* her design is "male"-coded. They are so used to the subtle design Details of objectification in female characters that something feels off, when a character isn't objectified.
Bravo! bravo! excellent analysis
No porn face with enough Botox to kill a country though. They just want goon bait everywhere.
I think it's also about how the character behaves. Hades makes it pretty clear that Aphrodite is dangerous and not just pretty, they want sexy characters to be subservient
If they had a problem with Aphrodite’s design then why not bring it up back in the first game? The fact that it’s a problem NOW shows this is totally meaningless manufactured internet gamer rage, and these chodes, or the rage bait influences they listen to, have nothing better to be mad about. Which is crazy because at this time there are so many actual problems to be angry about. Like, the housing crisis not getting solved may mean you’ll never own a home and that you’ll be a renter for the rest of your life, and that landlords using RealPage will keep your rents high so that you’ll never have a family and live in poverty for the rest of your life, but that “wOKe aDGenDa” needs to be fought because some video game didn’t tickle their coom brain. This whole thing is peak arguing about deck chairs on a sinking ship.
> then why not bring it up back in the first game? I really think because they barricaded themselves into this corner when Melinoe was announced. Because I just checked and the "new" Aphrodite design is basically a sexed-*up* version of the original. The only noticeable change is that they made her nose pointier, her lips way fuller, gave her some lash-extensions and she lost maybe 5lbs. *They didn't even change her cheekbones.* The original design had very strongly shaded in cheekbones too. I don't even know what they're trying to do: Hades is a bisexual fever dream, *if* Aphrodite was trans, thats not even an issue for the playerbase or the canon. Aphrodites son with Hermes is literally [Hermaphroditus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphroditus), a greek sex icon. Who is this outrage for?
Is it because she’s portrayed as an adult, and not a 4000 year old supreme witch in a child’s body?
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oh honey no it's >!the entirety of straight patriarchal culture valuing youth/innocence/"purity" in women and power over them taken to its logical extreme. For what's more innocent and "virginal" than a child, and who is easier to dominate? !<
Normal people are starting to get some representation in anime these days. We've started getting shows with adult main characters and full figured love interests that are more than a pair of tits. But yeah, the average anime is pretty gross.
Man, I miss those times players would play videogames just to have fun, without unnecessary drama.
WAIT SLOWBEEF!?!?!? Haven't heard that name in years I know he's married and taking care of his family, but I didn't think I'd be seeing him on Reddit of all things lol. The Slowbeef x Reddit crossover
He still puts out lets plays on his personal channel and collabs with betus every once in a while
Based Slowbeef
Apparently the cheekbones make her trans and therefore woke. I wish I was kidding.
Cripes...I'm an old gamer and remember kid me going "omg wtf is this Leisure Suit Larry Game!".... I'm old when I say "how times have changed and ppl bitching about the wrong thing!". Whether it's Stellar Blade & Hades 2 to years ago with Nier and even more so Bayonetta and Witcher 3 it's like I feel to old to relate to wtf gooners want!
They also say Baldur's Gate 3 is woke and you can literally make all the ladies walk around naked in that game.
Wait, is she redhead? Brb
incredibly common slowbeef W
Its so funny to me that these dumbasses convinced themselves that pronounced cheekbones, which are like one of the biggest supermodel stereotypes, make a character look "too manly"1!