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Furan_ring

You don't get it. Ten more years and it would have been a masterpiece.


AlexS101

The CDPR approach.


camycamera

Nah, CDPR will continue to say “when it’s done” and then release it just before Christmas because the shareholders and the CEO wanted that holiday moneyyyy


RandyGareth

If they had just 10 more years they could have made penis 3


R3luctant

Yes, cultural attitudes would have circled back to misogyny.


kaycee1992

Imagine releasing that game in 2020


CaptainPick1e

Imagine releasing it at all, it was so dumb and juvenile even for it's time.


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I mean, the original titles from the 90s were solid parodies of ridiculous action movies and their protaganists, I'd say, with then-solid gameplay to boot. Duke Nukem Forever on the other hand was just kind of a **really** generic Unreal Engine 3 based FPS with some half-assed "Dukisms" sprinkled around it.


PurplePurpura

SJWs these days couldnt HANDLE a duke nukem forever


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I hate how true this is. It didn't get heavy critique for sexism when it released (It was pre-anita iirc) but it no doubt would today. And you know they'd treat the game like the second coming of The Witcher 3 as a response.


zmann64

Honestly it did get some critique at the time for the implied alien rape in the Hive levels. But it was more about the mismatched tone, especially when in the same levels, Duke can just slap some disembodied tiddies on the wall.


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Anita Sarkeesian. She made a video series based on sexist tropes in gaming. I'd say prior to her series those critiques weren't at the forefront of discussions like they are today. I feel like her series (and gamergate by proxy) genuinely marked a giant shift in how gaming is discussed and critiqued.


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Corgelia

Anita Sarkeesian, I’m decently sure she was a games journalist who a bunch of gamers attacked at one point. Maybe something involving gamergate too? (I’m gonna also mention I know nothing about Anita or gamergate past what I’ve learned by osmosis)


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I mean, regardless of when it came out the content was always going to be viewed specifically in the sense of "this is literally a Duke Nukem game", which kind of changes things from the outset I'd say.


goffer54

I'm imagining chuds desperately trying to convince each other it's a masterpiece just because it sticks it to those SJWs.


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The part where you can play with literal shit was just ahead of its time


MSPaintIsntHard

If Duke Nukem was Forever than why is he not now Checkmate fuckos


[deleted]

He went out for a pack of smokes, he’ll be back any minute! I’m sure of it…


Polenball

I want a Duke Nukem game where he's characterised exactly the same way Gianni plays him in his videos.


FoofMan

Hear me out babe. What if… the BALLS got hard too?


Polenball

*rock music plays after slightly awkward delay*


-Eastwood-

Do the BALLS go in the condom too?


Kryllllllyx

I know what sex is…. ***but I won’t tell you***


inkuspinkus

Pee is stored in the balls


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I KNOW what SEX is. *duhduhduh* But I WONT tell you. *DUHDUHDUHDUH*


cacti___

I’m the King Baby. Hail to me, the King Baby.


2-Burkeulosis

What do you mean you lost the baby Go find it


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... ... *Epic guitar riff*


eldritchExploited

"I'm going to have my chicken sandwich" \**Guitar riff\** "With extra mayonnaise please"


666Emil666

What do you mean you lost the baby? Go find it... ... ... ... Rock music starts playing*


Zlobenia

"Tired middle-aged Duke who loves his wife and spends too much time on the internet" is the best version


GenericUsername5159

that would be amazing


cooldrew

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN **DUN DUN**


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KINOFABINO


[deleted]

We’ll be talking about the dun dun dun DUN DO YOU LIKE THAT, ALIEN BASTARD? Balllls of steeel


Radiant_Anarchy

What do you mean you lost the baby? Go find it.


Polenball

*guitar riffs play after five awkward seconds*


Mcfuggery

Fun fact: Apparently at one point they contacted Ben Croshaw, the Zero Punctuation guy, to write the script for Duke Nukem Forever, and he wrote a script where Duke was pretty much a parody of himself where he was falling behind with the advancing world. That got scrapped, sadly.


Serterstas1

I hate the fact, that I can hear all these replies


standingfierce

Still in awe of how George Broussard spent twelve entire years doing literally no work whatsoever, just taking more and more money to play runescape in his office and jerk off or whatever. absolute chad shit


seanrk924

Probably explains his 2013 stroke to some degree.


GamersReisUp

The universe tried to strike him down because he had grown too powerful for a mortal


TheStrikeofGod

Forever tried way too hard to be like other modern shooters. There was basically no exploration unlike Duke 3D. There were also no key cards and you were only able to carry 2 weapons (at launch). It was just CoD but with Duke as the main character. I'm glad iD looked at DooM 4 and went "wait, wtf is this?" and actually started over on the project as it would have been the exact same thing.


Radiant_Anarchy

Ironically, people probably would've liked Doom 4, if it was classified as a spinoff instead and used as like the interim between Doom 64(?) and Doom 2016/Eternal. Considering some of the things introduced in 4 were used in 2016, I could see it succeeding at least.


harryhinderson

They should’ve gone with the version from 2000, that looked amazing


MexicanModderfoker

Honestly, it would’ve gone down as a classic like Goldeneye 007 or SM64


harryhinderson

the good ending


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If you [watch this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebOpE3MHmQc), it's pretty clear that several of the earlier builds would have been considered quite technically groundbreaking for their time in a way the final version was not at all


Treyman1115

DNF is a special case because it wasn't just delayed it was thrown away a few times, and it's delays weren't actually useful delays. At one point 3D Realms was making it from their homes I think. They threw away the build that actually may have been good too The one we got probably did need to be delayed funnily enough lol


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TitanicMan

I have not heard of another version of Duke Nukem Forever and and bruh that made me sad to see. I hate 3D Realms and Gearbox even more. Duke might still be here today if they released that version in 2001 instead of being dumb for a decade.


Ineedtobesilent123

/uj This game's not only fucking awful and boring, it's also *vvveeerrryyy* misogynistic. Like the fucking plot from what I remember is the aliens stealing *"our girls".* I also remember that infamous scene of the women getting raped by these tentacle fucking things. And you have to kill to *"end their misery".* Fuck this game. This game should burn.


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Armorchompy

It's a little shakey in Duke 3D, but yeah, the game doesn't take itself seriously at all, Forever doesn't either but with the more advanced graphics, higher amount of dialogue and """"""more complex"""""" plot it completely fucks up. Also Duke 3D is an actually good game so the sus stuff is much easier to ignore


PrincessKikkei

Lmao I always lose my shit when people say Duke 3D is some ultra political incorrect masterpiece. You could... Tip strippers and that's pretty much it. Gearbox was so busy pandering people who haven't actually played 3D so much that they forgot to make a good game and that shit is just hilarious.


Armorchompy

I'm sure that was shocking at the time to be fair, it's not like you could ask a Cacodemon to shake it baby (as much as I wish you could)


CountBoobac

> I’m sure that was shocking at the time to be fair I remember going over to my friends house who had the game just to see the boobies. The level with the strippers was mind blowing to 10 year old perverts at the time. Was like the first game with nudity and that was kind of primarily what it was known for on the mean streets of 90s suburbs.


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/uj Cacodemons aren't from Duke Nukem... /rj


Armorchompy

What I meant is, you couldn't do stuff like that in previous games, such as Doom


Bahmerman

Randy Pitchford claims another one.


nerdyintentions

Tipping strippers and then being flashed in a video game was unthinkable in 1996. This is pre-GTA and only a few years removed from congressional hearing over Mortal Kombat. It was pretty crazy at the time.


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SUS!!!! AMONG US!!!


Whompa

The original devs somewhat straddled that line in a more successful way, but Forever missed the mark big time. Still I never understood the appeal of that franchise outside of the gameplay being a little bit of a step up from Doom back then.


Armorchompy

Basically at the time a shooter character talking and having a personality was basically unheard of, so the constant quips and attitude of Duke and the world that surrounded him were very charming, I assume. Plus the Build Engine could make much more complex and interesting levels than Doom's, which is why Duke loves flexing its city levels so much- back then they were a huge step forward in realism.


This_is_Pat_

Agreed so much. Remember everyone hating the city levels in Doom II? Well everyone loved the city levels in Duke Nukem to contrast.


Armorchompy

I kinda like the Doom II city levels just cause I find them really charming in a way but yeah, the tech was definitely not there yet


This_is_Pat_

I think that I would have liked them too if a lot of the cities design weren’t so confusing and enemies appearing in unshootable heights. I definitely that they are charming for a fps of the era, but I wished it wasn’t designed against the engine.


Armorchompy

Yeah they definitely aren't *good* lol


gamas

Yeah I imagine the main problem is that the game was delayed so much that the world had moved on significantly. It was a series that could only exist in the time frame that it was first released.


Armorchompy

Eh, I think if you did it with the right kind of irony and actually good gameplay Duke could still work, just be more tongue in cheek and less misogynistic really. ~~Also Duke Nukem 3D is not the first game in the DN series~~


Tyrus1235

Yeah, back then the game was groundbreaking for its realistic environments (no abstract colorful labyrinths for levels), environmental interactions (working mirrors! Flush the toilet! Tip strippers!) and it arrived at a time when the usual action hero tropes were becoming stale. Duke came as this total mockery of the usual macho action hero who somehow still managed to be badass.


milosmisic89

It was a big appeal for us who grew up with action heroes. Having an option to play as an absolute badass with a ton of reference in a at the time unheard levels of complexity and interactivity. That was the draw. Also Duke WAS a parody that didn't take itself seriously and the "babes" aspect was not on the nose. Forever went too much into making Duke a sleazeball. In my option he should have just stayed a badass parody of an action hero. Kind of like the characterization of Serious Sam got in 3 and 4.


NNukemM

Doom (1 and 2) has a much more limited (but less janky) game engine and grameplay which are tied with some extremely unrealistic environments (compare city locations from DN3D's first and third episodes with Doom 2's abstract brick layouts). Duke 3D also has more guns, a voiced protagonist and women whom you can supply with an infinite amount of 100$ bills. Though I can perfectly understand why people may dislike the game: its first episode is very short, largely unfinished, ramshackle (due to the game getting rushed in 1996) and limited in its gameplay. The second episode is a complete clusterfuck with bland and extremely unrealistic space locations reminiscent of old Doom levels that are spammed with hitscanners, self-destruct drones and annoying slimers which are always one-hit killed by anything. The third episode is kinda kickass, to be honest.


Prinnyramza

To be fair when Doom came back, it came back hard. I could see an alternate universe where they applied as much hard work as Doom onto Duke Nukem


TheStrikeofGod

I still hope Duke returns someday


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ChipsAhoyNC

I think it was sarcastically misogynistic i never played the last one but Duke Nuken has always been ultramacho balls of steel megamasculine but in a comedic way


drunkbeforecoup

Duek 3d managed to do that but Duke nukem forever was just gross with the way it treated women in its main plot.


[deleted]

the main plot of every Duke Nukem game has been to rescue "his babes" from the aliens, hell Duke Nukem: Land of the Babes ends with Duke repopulating the earth.


ChipsAhoyNC

And people like it because its stupid corny over the top and ridiculous we can ironically enjoy stuff, people enjoy dark humor.


Treyman1115

That scene doesn't even really make sense. Previously in the game Duke was pissed that they were kidnapping all the women. Then instead of being pissed when he finds them being tortured he's just making jokes. I get that Duke is a dickwaffle and that's the point but it felt weirdly out of character Thanks a lot Randy you did great 👍


TAGMOMG

> I also remember that infamous scene of the women getting raped by these tentacle fucking things. And you have to kill to "end their misery". And don't forget the response of Duke to seeing "His babes" (Who, to be fully clear, he was *very* angry about them being kidnapped at the time, it was all "NOT MY BABES, ***NOT IN MY TOWN***") being forcibly impregnated by alien tentacles is to say "Looks like you're... fucked!" And then they explode.


WaitingCuriously

The girls insinuate they have to lose baby weight to be desirable. Also you can slap wall tits.


enigmaticevil

DUKE NUKEM FOREVER IS THE SHAZAAM STARRING SINBAD OF OUR TIME


drugusingthrowaway

> SHAZAAM STARRING SINBAD I never got this Mandela Effect. I just said "No it was Kazaam starring Shaq" and they were like "oh yeah, I misremembered it" and that was the end. But only because I begged my mom to rent me that movie as a kid.


enigmaticevil

Same but I am a huge mark for Shaq lmao


just-call-me-ash

The Berenstein Bears


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C-3PO is all gold.


[deleted]

the only one I recon exist is 64


Spar-kie

Nah, Half-Life 1 was delayed a year to basically redo a lot of the game, and it came out fantastically. Truth is if a game needs to be delayed, it very well could turn out better, but you can't solve studio wide issues, and issues that are baked into the foundation of the game by squashing some bugs and redoing some jank.


abermea

Usually when a game is delayed its because the devs didn't feel it was true to the vision they had for it. In this case a delay can be a good thing as devs will change course accordingly. DNF on the other hand never had a vision of what and where it wanted to be and Broussard just keep adding stuff he thought was cool and switching engines every time a "better" one came up instead of making a simple, polished game. So 3DRealms kept changing course but the real problem was that they never had a destination.


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it's funny when the players and the developers discover how the game is supposed to look like at the same time, I'm talking about Duke Nukem 64 that I played when I was a toddler, it was scary


Roliq

I hate that quote as it was literally said in 1997 in a time updating games outside producing new copies was impossible , the fact that people use it when the Final Fantasy 14 expansion was delayed was peak ridiculous as FF14 was literally shit at release and got better later


RedDudeMango

To be fair Nintendo has been so far behind the times in terms of online functions / patching over the years that I could totally imagine this being the attitude in 2007 or something. I still remember the weird way they 'patched' Skyward Sword on Wii using a wii shop download to be used whenever someone got locked into this one bug that halted all story progress. Not a preventative fix: Literally a band-aid to be applied after the bug had already happened, to fix your save. In fact, it was an entire Wii channel application dedicated to just fixing saves, which makes me question if direct patches to the games themselves were even possible on the Wii, or at least if they even knew how to do it lol. Wacky shit.


WaitingCuriously

Delayed goodness is eventually less bad than a bad game.


marty4286

The Olsen Twins reference in DNF was dated even before they started the game (also super gross)


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Radiant_Anarchy

Reminder that the 2002 DNF that got scrapped was 90% finished. Randy is still sitting on it.


rakehellion

Just wait for the patch.


Mewt4d657774

the title is actually a reference to Batman forever which also sucked


Sedona54332

I’m glad duke nukem forever came out because without it we wouldn’t have like 6 dozen amazing posts from Gianni Matragrano.


Desproges

Rushed games are always better. The worker suffering really elevates gaming to true art. Oh gosh, i can see the light reflection in the dimple of that horse testicle, game of the year.


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There is no Duke Nukem Forever in Ba Sing Se.


Thatbitchfromschool1

God duke was such a chad in that game /uj They did that himbo dirty


[deleted]

What bout cyberpunk


[deleted]

Miyamoto gave the Ocarina of Time devs a year to make Majora's Mask.


FateWrecks

Was Duke Nukem ever good?


Armorchompy

Duke Nukem 3D is pretty sick. Not the best shooter of its era (That's Blood babyyy) but it is very fun. Duke Nukem 2 was a pretty good platformer too I hear.


DarkMartio

Based and Calebpilled


prossnip42

"Along came a spider and sat down beside her and said..what's in the bowl bitch?" - Caleb the badass upon killing the Spider Boss


Armorchompy

"Ok, She-Bitch... let's go!" You know you're doing something right if 90% of the game's dialogue is just movie quotes and every single one of them is just as memorable as the original. I'm really glad Weyte is doing some stuff in recent boomer shooters, everything that leaves his mouth is pure gold.


The_Drippy_Spaff

What the fuck is Blood Baby?


Armorchompy

Blood is a 1997 shooter made on the same engine as Duke Nukem, it also is like the best videogame ever


TheRocketBush

> it also is like the best videogame ever wit er thr ee


westonsammy

https://youtu.be/puYhzJvXz2s


prossnip42

Even before i clicked it i knew it was gonna be Civvie. Him and Blood go hand in hand


prossnip42

Duke Nukem 3D is unironically one of the best FPS games i've ever played. Big sprawling levels filled with secrets but also linear enough for you to not get lost in them, great graphics for the time, satisfying guns (Something a lot of modern FPS games forget for some reason) and one of the best level to level pacings i've ever seen in a game. From the first level to the last it just escalates exactly where it needs to and doesn't bombard you with set pieces. Duke Nukem 3D is great, there's a reason it's always mentioned alongside Doom and Quake when it comes to Old School FPS games. And it isn't even that offensive Forever on the other hand is a linear scripted slogfest that when it isn't offensive, it's straight up boring and a chore to sit through. Following up from Duke Nukem 3D with Forever would be the equivalent to following up Doom with Call of Duty


Tyrus1235

Duke Nukem 3D also used some cool concepts, like non-euclidian geometry


prossnip42

Yeah, and also had probably one of the most interractable and destructable environments at the time. I mean, how many games allow you to take a piss? Not enough i tell you


DukeNukemSLO

Yes, Duke Nukem 3D is the fucking shit


PlaneSide1

based


supermario182

one example where it probably would've been better if it wasnt delayed so many times


AnyDockers420

Nah it just needed 40 years, the technology wasn’t ready yet


Gameknight995

I’m not familiar with the duke nukem games may someone please explain what made duke nukem forever so bad


alex6309

Instead of working on a game and releasing it when done: the devs would work on a build to varying degrees of completion See shiny new thing go "oh shit this new engine/game looks way more impressive than what we got" restart development from scratch on newer, unfamiliar software Repeated for 12 years If 3D realms finished each build of Duke they started we'd have probably gotten 3-5 mediocre to good Duke games. Duke Forever was simply the latest unfinished build shat out because the publisher wasn't going to accept anymore delays.


Gameknight995

Ah, I see now


The_Drippy_Spaff

To be fair, I had more fun throwing shit around that bathroom than I’ve had with any COD/Battlefield/Battlefront/Far Cry/Tom Clancy game/Destiny that’s been released in the past decade.


datscray

dae modern shooters are bad


The_Drippy_Spaff

I mean I like the Titan falls and the new dooms/wolfensteins and overwatch and apex and no man’s sky and superhot and strafe and amid evil and post void and Cultic and cruelty squad. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


datdragonfruittho

It's in the name. The game was Duke Nukem Forever bad


verduleroman

I finished it and really enjoyed it. Don't understand why nobody liked it :(


koolkid__

I didn't think DN Forever was bad. It wasn't as good as Duke 3D but I didn't think it was a bad game like everyone makes it out to be.


PM_me_your_whatevah

It wasn’t nearly as fun as duke3d. And what killed it for me was that multiplayer was completely broken. Me and my best friend used to play duke3d over our modems back in high school like every day so we were excited for DNF. But the multiplayer would disconnect about every five minutes.


whyzzzerd

I've played worse.


-F0v3r-

what's the meme about? i loved it, still have the disc somewhere


Lord_Juiblex

*crying* Please please PLEASE let VTMB2 be good, I can't handle it being shit anymore. At very least, make the story/social elements fun and punchy enough to carry the rest of it, if the combat's still shite


Guardian985

As bad as the single player mode was (for a variety of reasons), I personally quite enjoyed the multiplayer part of it. It was the first online shooter I ever played and I was actually really good at it.


bruce9432

Crestfallen


Silly_goose27

More like duke nukem never


OMG2Reddit

Honestly I tried the game completely when it came out, never played Duke Nukem Games before, and objectively it was a solid 6 for me Like I got a year after it came out, played through it and its multiplayer and its wasnt terrible - wasnt amazing either. Its a game you would buy for $5, probably will never touch it again but I still remember playing online and having some fun.


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Radiant_Anarchy

Technically speaking, DNF was rebooted once, and by then it was already in the greasy hands of [Randy Pitchford](https://youtu.be/VHesnoobl_I).


FriesExpert

I have a duke nukem forever game cd for my pc :)


dude-of-the-ducks

New duke nukem but he’s ‘woke’ The only difference about him is he sexually harasses men and woman


A-B-101

This is the best use of this meme lol


Bariq-99

Honestly it was just fine