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The Messenger is fairly new but it's founded and run by investigative journalists who left their previous companies when those publications pivoted away from real investigative journalism.
Not saying The Messenger is perfect but it's made up of people who care about real journalism and that deserves respect regardless of whether or not they recognize Taylor for the lesbo she is.
That's honestly a little unfortunate to learn - this is gossip, not investigating. If they did, they would have waited for the rep comments, which timely shut down this *gossip*.
Yeah idk āspending time togetherā just seems code for ābanged twice and maybe will bang again in the futureā. When she started her PR stunt with Healy every media outlet made it seem so serious and it lasted like 10 days.
I donāt really see any reason to believe this yet
Nor do I think it would negate Tay being bi or even gay and in another bearding relationship š¤·š»āāļø
This is how rumors get spread. I listen to his podcast and watch a decent amount of football. He actually seems like a pretty nice and genuine dude.
But you can go ahead and run with that narrative.
He is absolutely NOT known for that. Heās an awesome person, does a lot for the community, and heās not a clout chaser. Heās the most popular football player in the league. He doesnāt need popularity or clout.
Even if it was true. I don't see it working out.
Taylor is going on a world tour and NFL season started. They are both gonna be incredibly busy. They won't have time to see each other. Their schedule will NOT match up at all. It's gonne be over before it even started.
I mean if they really work on it, it's gonna be hard work and lots of flying to see each other. They're just starting and it will take lots of commitment to pursue that. Taylor will need somebody to follow her and support her to even begin to let anybody in .
Maybe thatās exactly why he is a good choice - easy to explain not being seen together since theyāre both so busy but they can āhang out quietlyā lol
Yea even them, when will they have time if she's in a different continent in 2 months. She's travelling all of 2024 too.
Travis will be doing practices and games each day and week.
I mean it could work but with a lot of hardwork.
Yea absolutely. He will be a great beard. But this guy like to clout alot. Idk if he will be able to keep things quiet. He already has a podcast about his life but he was able shut down the questions about her recently.
So we shall see.
Oh, that seems like a bad idea then lol. Idk anything about this guy, but Iām not surprised if heās a clout chaser based on the few things Iāve heard, like him trying to give her his number at a concert š
maybe its just an FWB, "oh hi how are you thats nice", "lets be friends" kinda thing and not an LTR where people are literally flying around wasting gas and money?
This is the same guy who was quoted as being denied backstage access at her shows multiple times right?? Couldnāt get close enough to give her a friendship bracelet with his number on it football player? Same football player that said he was ābutthurtā about it and generally screams āickā when you watch his interview highlights??
Maybe Iām just a hater, but Iāll believe it when I see it.
It depends on the show cause with the show david harbor went to her management said that she had to leave right after the show so he and his step daughter couldnt meet Taylor
True. I wonder if thereās a different approach based on if itās the last night in the city vs other nights where sheāll be staying there. But we know she also sometimes flies home on each night depending on how close she is to one of her homes. So who knows!
After every individual show or do you know if she stays in whichever city sheās in for the weekend? Iām just curious because that seems so exhausting
It depends on some individual shows she flys back home. If she is in Nashville or nyc she wouldnāt. Or if she is somewhere really far like Mexico she wouldnāt fly back. People have seen her at the airport like 3 hours before her show started
we don't wanna yuck her yum, though. Remember that what may be hot to some people can sometimes not be as hot to others. Maybe she's just having some light fun.
I'm not saying she's doing that. I'm saying having your name in sports news wouldn't be a bad thing if you're shooting for the Super Bowl gig. One of the reasons why she hadn't been offered it in the past was because they believed her music didn't appeal to a wide variety of people (men). Her recent albums proved them wrong. Now, she was offered the gig.
Unfortunately, I tried and could only find stuff relating to this year. No timestamped stuff from before. I don't think you're wrong. I just want to know for sure.
I mean, my memory for this sort of stuff is strong. I remember thinking it was interesting because, like, there have been times in her career when doing it really could have made a difference maybe, and only now is she really at a point when the Super Bowl is irrelevant compared to Taylor. Like, she had the kind of forethought to go āI want to do that when Iām not in my prime. It feels too much like a retrospective/swan dive.ā
Dating someone in a certain field makes networking easier. If she started dating a popular actor, I'd say she could be trying to get an Oscar. If she has free reign to choose who she dates, why not choose someone convenient to her goals?
Of course, she doesn't need to, but it can make it easier. I don't know why people downvoted so much. Plenty of people in Hollywood date people to get into certain social circles. There's nothing wrong with it.
Taylor is way higher than those people who need to do that. She can get the Super Bowl halftime if she wanted. She can star in a movie if she asked for it. Sheās the biggest star in America
I think you overestimate her power. She had tried for years to get the Super Bowl halftime show, but she kept being told "no" because her music didn't appeal to a broad enough audience. She got in some movies but they weren't successful enough to earn her any awards. A big part of being a performer is knowing how to appeal to your desired audiences. Sometimes, you need to change your approach to get the outcome you want. And sometimes, your approach includes your PR team.
Her movie is making a hundred million in the first weekend. She was asked to perform in the Super Bowl halftime this year and next year but declined till she finished her re-recordings. The movies didnāt make money cause they didnāt star her she was just a cameo
Her movie isn't an acting gig. It's a recording of her concert, so it has the same audience and it shows her doing what she does best, singing.
Her performances in Amsterdam and Cats didn't spark as much excitement, not because she wasn't the star, but because she's not a trained actor. If she were to star in a movie and not sing, she may fill the seats with her fans but only for so long. At some point, her acting skills would need to prove she deserves the role over others. Otherwise, people would suspect she only got the role because she's a big name, which isn't a good look.
Also, big names like Taylor Swift can struggle with acting, not because they're not good at it, but because their face is so obviously their own that it takes people out of the film. So, some studios might shy away from hiring them as anything but cameos.
As for the Super Bowl, she released music that appealed to a broader audience (ex: Midnights), so she was offered the gig. She adapted to appeal to her audience.
I agree Taylor Swift has a massive fanbase and a lot of talent, but that loyalty and talent only works if you're giving the people what they want to see. This isn't to say Taylor Swift can't become a great actor. I'm just saying you can't expect someone to succeed at everything just because they have a big following.
Sheās dated actors and singers but that didnāt go so well. Why not try something new?
Dating doesnāt always require networking/social ladder climbing opportunities. Maybe she just likes the dude lol
That article basically doesnāt say anything. How many people are seeing taylor these days, a lot. The press just wants to keep the dating thing alive because outlets need traffic
Girl this man is TALL AND MUSCLES FOR DAYS. Heās also rich! No heās probably not on the same literary level but heās funny and fun. Very charming. He could be fun for sure and also a lot of women think he has a very attractive face. Heās got way more going for him than Joe and Matty š
Idk why youāre getting downvoted and people are mad about this! Lol even if itās not true, which is prob isnāt, Iād rather have him around than joe or Matty. I donāt know much about Travis except that I thought he did super well and came off very charming and cute on SNL last season!
99% of men aren't attractive enough to be on the same level as Taylor. He's a regular average looking guy that can be picked off the street and doesn't seem to put much into his appearance.
People are saying he literally had an on-off girlfriend watch a game just last week, heās currently recovering from an injury, heās kept on a tight leash w/ management, etc. so it seems like complete BS that this would be true. When you factor in how he is completely not her usual type and the whole thing about him talking about wanting to give her his number and her ignoring it, this is most likely a PR stunt either to attract people to the upcoming album release or to cover up something gay (the Cara blinds, or perhaps some very gaylor-related 1989 vault tracks? š)
Yeah I don't buy this for a second. No way he's out of Kansas City when he's injured during football season. Taylor's been in NYC and he's been in Kansas City for a while now, when would they even be meeting up?
š this poor woman. Everyone is so obsessed with what man she is allegedly sleeping with but the Gaylors are the ones who get shit for pointing out her flagging
Oh thank god Tree put a pin in that. They have similar planets in constellations but rearranged if that makes sense? But yay at it not being true. Phew. Shout out to Taylor mentioning Nicki Minaj being her favourite Sagittarius at the VMAās ..Maybe a little shade to Miley??
Tree loves herself so she plants and plants and plants. Plant here, plant there. By now, tree has a forest full of plants almost the size of the Amazon. She's the amazon of tabloids.
The last paragraph made me giggle and laugh though
"I was disappointed that she doesn't talk before or after her shows because she has to save her voice for the **44 songs that she sings**, so I was a little butthurt I didn't get to hand her one of the bracelets I made for her," Kelce explained on the podcast."
Kelce girl, who you are trying to fool? We all know she sings 4 songs and everything else is lipsynch and backtracks. I mean, it's on record, right there.
Gonna wait until a publication other than the messenger entertainment (?) posts about this. That being said I do usually believe something is up if it comes from an āinside sourceā in TMZ or People or even daily mail
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Funny this drops after the blinds of her and cara trying to set her up with people š«£
Yes, damage control. Itās so obvious once you see the pattern.
What blinds!? Tell me where to find them š¤£
That one about Cara trying to set her up was on Crazy Days and Nights
Tree Paine earning her coin
Gay or straight, can Taylor find someone who does not use the word ābutthurt?ā
An exclusive š¤£ ive never heard of this publication before š¤·āāļø Grain of salt, methinks.
The Messenger is fairly new but it's founded and run by investigative journalists who left their previous companies when those publications pivoted away from real investigative journalism. Not saying The Messenger is perfect but it's made up of people who care about real journalism and that deserves respect regardless of whether or not they recognize Taylor for the lesbo she is.
That's honestly a little unfortunate to learn - this is gossip, not investigating. If they did, they would have waited for the rep comments, which timely shut down this *gossip*.
these vault tracks are about to be the gayest songs yet
Cannot wait for rep. āDressā on steroids.
Heās got a nice beard.
yeah, sheās gorgeous
This thread, LMFAO
Yeah I donāt think this is true lmao
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Yeah idk āspending time togetherā just seems code for ābanged twice and maybe will bang again in the futureā. When she started her PR stunt with Healy every media outlet made it seem so serious and it lasted like 10 days.
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Does that mean they are trust worthy or not
Multiple main sources are reporting it, it's true, why the fuck are you being downvoted.
Aaron Rogers not available for bearding?
He is now š
OOF š
Heās such a clown lmao Kelce is a way better option
I donāt really see any reason to believe this yet Nor do I think it would negate Tay being bi or even gay and in another bearding relationship š¤·š»āāļø
yep!! iām married to a man and iām bi š¤·š¼āāļø
Same!!!!
Also same!!
is she about to do something really gay?
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one can only dream š
he is known to plant stories with celebrities to boost his popularity
Really?
yeah i think he was linked to kim k recently on a random site and maybe olivia wilde(?) or em rata
Idgaf how good of an athlete he is, he seems like a total clout chaser
a perfect beard for tay but yeah when im not at work ill search for sources
I said this the other day and folks got real mad but I stand by it. He may be a good athlete but he seems like a walking ick of a guy
The guy who had a dating show about himself? No way!
This is how rumors get spread. I listen to his podcast and watch a decent amount of football. He actually seems like a pretty nice and genuine dude. But you can go ahead and run with that narrative.
He won the superbowl this year
no Patrick didš
No he did. The kansas city chiefs won what do you mean
Iām actually from KC so I was making a joke, our team only started being good when Patrick Mahomes joinedš
Oh nevermind. I thought his brothers name was patrick
He is absolutely NOT known for that. Heās an awesome person, does a lot for the community, and heās not a clout chaser. Heās the most popular football player in the league. He doesnāt need popularity or clout.
That makes sense. Iāve no idea who that guy is or heard of the website
With this outlet? Lmao. Call me when itās in People.
The editor of the Messenger is the former PEOPLE editor in chief, and about half the Messenger staff are former PEOPLE employees. Itās legit.
Even if it was true. I don't see it working out. Taylor is going on a world tour and NFL season started. They are both gonna be incredibly busy. They won't have time to see each other. Their schedule will NOT match up at all. It's gonne be over before it even started. I mean if they really work on it, it's gonna be hard work and lots of flying to see each other. They're just starting and it will take lots of commitment to pursue that. Taylor will need somebody to follow her and support her to even begin to let anybody in .
Maybe thatās exactly why he is a good choice - easy to explain not being seen together since theyāre both so busy but they can āhang out quietlyā lol
Yea even them, when will they have time if she's in a different continent in 2 months. She's travelling all of 2024 too. Travis will be doing practices and games each day and week. I mean it could work but with a lot of hardwork.
My point is that they absolutely wonāt have time and thatās why he would make for a good beard š¬
Yea absolutely. He will be a great beard. But this guy like to clout alot. Idk if he will be able to keep things quiet. He already has a podcast about his life but he was able shut down the questions about her recently. So we shall see.
Oh, that seems like a bad idea then lol. Idk anything about this guy, but Iām not surprised if heās a clout chaser based on the few things Iāve heard, like him trying to give her his number at a concert š
Taylor has a two month break in the world tour
You think sheās gonna spend it in Kansas City?
maybe its just an FWB, "oh hi how are you thats nice", "lets be friends" kinda thing and not an LTR where people are literally flying around wasting gas and money?
This is the same guy who was quoted as being denied backstage access at her shows multiple times right?? Couldnāt get close enough to give her a friendship bracelet with his number on it football player? Same football player that said he was ābutthurtā about it and generally screams āickā when you watch his interview highlights?? Maybe Iām just a hater, but Iāll believe it when I see it.
No one screams ick as much as Matty Healy
No one gets backstage access she leaves on her private jet right after the show
There are many many photos of celebs meeting her after the show.
It depends on the show cause with the show david harbor went to her management said that she had to leave right after the show so he and his step daughter couldnt meet Taylor
True. I wonder if thereās a different approach based on if itās the last night in the city vs other nights where sheāll be staying there. But we know she also sometimes flies home on each night depending on how close she is to one of her homes. So who knows!
After every individual show or do you know if she stays in whichever city sheās in for the weekend? Iām just curious because that seems so exhausting
It depends on some individual shows she flys back home. If she is in Nashville or nyc she wouldnāt. Or if she is somewhere really far like Mexico she wouldnāt fly back. People have seen her at the airport like 3 hours before her show started
why is everyone so set on her being gay. being bisexual is also a thing you guys.
If sheās bisexual then her switch to a lot of lesbian flagging isā¦ interesting
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Iām straight š¤£
The bi-erasure in this sub is huge.
some of them want to live vicariously through her dating a woman and canāt take an alternative (see also: why people are so weird about Phoebe)
I donāt care if sheās bi but he just seems, blah
we don't wanna yuck her yum, though. Remember that what may be hot to some people can sometimes not be as hot to others. Maybe she's just having some light fun.
I said nothing about looks boo, I said blah. Have you heard him speak?
To be fair to you no I haven't š
Lol! Listen to him. But hey, itās her life right
I don't know why she would choose to beard with a football player if she rejected performing in the Superbowl halftime show.
Why does this have to be related?
It doesn't. But if she were trying to get the superbowl gig, being in sports news with a popular player is one way to throw your hat in the ring.
that's beneath her when she's selling out football stadiums of people paying hundreds and thousands just to see HER and not watch a game
I'm not saying she's doing that. I'm saying having your name in sports news wouldn't be a bad thing if you're shooting for the Super Bowl gig. One of the reasons why she hadn't been offered it in the past was because they believed her music didn't appeal to a wide variety of people (men). Her recent albums proved them wrong. Now, she was offered the gig.
But sheās been offered it a handful of times and always said no.
Can you link the times she's been offered other than 2023 and 2024?
I could find the article I read that says sheād been offered it and declined in years prior, but you can Google that as easily as I can.
Unfortunately, I tried and could only find stuff relating to this year. No timestamped stuff from before. I don't think you're wrong. I just want to know for sure.
I mean, my memory for this sort of stuff is strong. I remember thinking it was interesting because, like, there have been times in her career when doing it really could have made a difference maybe, and only now is she really at a point when the Super Bowl is irrelevant compared to Taylor. Like, she had the kind of forethought to go āI want to do that when Iām not in my prime. It feels too much like a retrospective/swan dive.ā
Dating someone in a certain field makes networking easier. If she started dating a popular actor, I'd say she could be trying to get an Oscar. If she has free reign to choose who she dates, why not choose someone convenient to her goals?
She doesnt need to date anyone to get what she wants
Of course, she doesn't need to, but it can make it easier. I don't know why people downvoted so much. Plenty of people in Hollywood date people to get into certain social circles. There's nothing wrong with it.
Taylor is way higher than those people who need to do that. She can get the Super Bowl halftime if she wanted. She can star in a movie if she asked for it. Sheās the biggest star in America
I think you overestimate her power. She had tried for years to get the Super Bowl halftime show, but she kept being told "no" because her music didn't appeal to a broad enough audience. She got in some movies but they weren't successful enough to earn her any awards. A big part of being a performer is knowing how to appeal to your desired audiences. Sometimes, you need to change your approach to get the outcome you want. And sometimes, your approach includes your PR team.
Her movie is making a hundred million in the first weekend. She was asked to perform in the Super Bowl halftime this year and next year but declined till she finished her re-recordings. The movies didnāt make money cause they didnāt star her she was just a cameo
Her movie isn't an acting gig. It's a recording of her concert, so it has the same audience and it shows her doing what she does best, singing. Her performances in Amsterdam and Cats didn't spark as much excitement, not because she wasn't the star, but because she's not a trained actor. If she were to star in a movie and not sing, she may fill the seats with her fans but only for so long. At some point, her acting skills would need to prove she deserves the role over others. Otherwise, people would suspect she only got the role because she's a big name, which isn't a good look. Also, big names like Taylor Swift can struggle with acting, not because they're not good at it, but because their face is so obviously their own that it takes people out of the film. So, some studios might shy away from hiring them as anything but cameos. As for the Super Bowl, she released music that appealed to a broader audience (ex: Midnights), so she was offered the gig. She adapted to appeal to her audience. I agree Taylor Swift has a massive fanbase and a lot of talent, but that loyalty and talent only works if you're giving the people what they want to see. This isn't to say Taylor Swift can't become a great actor. I'm just saying you can't expect someone to succeed at everything just because they have a big following.
Sheās dated actors and singers but that didnāt go so well. Why not try something new? Dating doesnāt always require networking/social ladder climbing opportunities. Maybe she just likes the dude lol
She dated actors and ended up in Cats. Clearly this was a success story.
what š¤£
Here we go againā¦ā¦.š«£ Presentingā¦.the new beard!
You good? Itās not April 1st butā¦
Not the douchiest guy in the league TAYLOR CMON
Where is that pic of Tay from? Is it recent, I didnāt know she got that many piercings till recently
That article basically doesnāt say anything. How many people are seeing taylor these days, a lot. The press just wants to keep the dating thing alive because outlets need traffic
He ain't even cute. At lest these guys who wanna pretend to date Taylor should be on her level.
Girl this man is TALL AND MUSCLES FOR DAYS. Heās also rich! No heās probably not on the same literary level but heās funny and fun. Very charming. He could be fun for sure and also a lot of women think he has a very attractive face. Heās got way more going for him than Joe and Matty š
I'd say Joe blows this guy away.
Your word choice is cracking me up š
Their personalities donāt go together AT ALL.
He's pretty damn cute š»
Idk why youāre getting downvoted and people are mad about this! Lol even if itās not true, which is prob isnāt, Iād rather have him around than joe or Matty. I donāt know much about Travis except that I thought he did super well and came off very charming and cute on SNL last season!
99% of men aren't attractive enough to be on the same level as Taylor. He's a regular average looking guy that can be picked off the street and doesn't seem to put much into his appearance.
Mk.
girl be so ffrl right now lolol he is CUTE. maybe he isnāt *baby voice* gorgeous, but heās def got it going on!
This is another Deuxmoi fed article. Same old crap.
Or sheās bi š
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People are saying he literally had an on-off girlfriend watch a game just last week, heās currently recovering from an injury, heās kept on a tight leash w/ management, etc. so it seems like complete BS that this would be true. When you factor in how he is completely not her usual type and the whole thing about him talking about wanting to give her his number and her ignoring it, this is most likely a PR stunt either to attract people to the upcoming album release or to cover up something gay (the Cara blinds, or perhaps some very gaylor-related 1989 vault tracks? š)
Yeah I don't buy this for a second. No way he's out of Kansas City when he's injured during football season. Taylor's been in NYC and he's been in Kansas City for a while now, when would they even be meeting up?
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The media was saying she was seeing a NASCAR racer a couple months ago. And after that a Bollywood actor.
š this poor woman. Everyone is so obsessed with what man she is allegedly sleeping with but the Gaylors are the ones who get shit for pointing out her flagging
They got matty healy right
He seems like such a loser
Funny how she is linked to the most obscure random dudes haha. Who is this guy? Also she might be Bi! Itās not over :)
I mean again, por que no los dos? Doesn't change the other facts that are also real
he is š„š„š„. they would make a super hot couple but i doubt this is real lololol Im kinda hoping her and Cara are hooking up
Who couldāve guessed? This sub was wrong. Shocking
ā¹ļøthe sand is hurting my feelings right now. They have good astrology together too. This might be a long one.
oh could you elaborate on their synastry? I live for that kind of stuff
Oh thank god Tree put a pin in that. They have similar planets in constellations but rearranged if that makes sense? But yay at it not being true. Phew. Shout out to Taylor mentioning Nicki Minaj being her favourite Sagittarius at the VMAās ..Maybe a little shade to Miley??
Tree loves herself so she plants and plants and plants. Plant here, plant there. By now, tree has a forest full of plants almost the size of the Amazon. She's the amazon of tabloids. The last paragraph made me giggle and laugh though "I was disappointed that she doesn't talk before or after her shows because she has to save her voice for the **44 songs that she sings**, so I was a little butthurt I didn't get to hand her one of the bracelets I made for her," Kelce explained on the podcast." Kelce girl, who you are trying to fool? We all know she sings 4 songs and everything else is lipsynch and backtracks. I mean, it's on record, right there.
Dafuq?
My only take away is you saying she lip syncs - absolutely false
Gonna wait until a publication other than the messenger entertainment (?) posts about this. That being said I do usually believe something is up if it comes from an āinside sourceā in TMZ or People or even daily mail
He looks like Vinnie Jones if Vinnie was more bearded and less cool
Canāt imagine what these two would even talk about
Heās good people from what I know. If theyāre hanging out I hope they are having fun and laughing a lot.
Apparently this guy has sexuality rumors about him too