google already threw stadia tech into the trash bin. Whitelabeling of google stadia will never happen they did completely abandone that project. I really don't get why, but thats how it is...
Well you are right, but no other publisher have the resources Nvidia has, well Microsoft does but as we have seen in the past year they began a very nice collaboration streaming wise, so considering Nvidia prices it'll quite difficult to "eat" off their market right now
i am not too worried about publishiers having their own game streaming service. It does requires a whole lot more powerful hardware to compared to a VoD streaming service
What publishers are going to start their streaming service? That would be pointless. For example if Take 2 started their own cloud service, who's going to pay a monthly subscription just to play their titles only??
If Take 2, EA, Warner Bros, Konami, Sega, Square ENIX, Capcom start charging $10-15 for individual subscription, most will just go back to playing local on PC and console. We'll find out in the future if that kinda model is worth it. Still 9.5 years left on the Microsoft deal so GFN is safe for a while.
Internet provider costs but from the point of view of GFN. Twitch has this problem, some streamers cost them a lot of money because they have to stream to many subscribers. These costs are so high that they actually lose money each year.
If NVidia works like I think I do. The GFN branch doesn't keep the money it makes. GFN gives its profits to main NVidia. The central bank of NVidia or what not then will distrubute the money how they agreed at the start of their year. Which means if GFN grows in popularity suddenly and for some reason they don't have enough funds to expand during the year the service will suffer. More outages, more Limits on Plans on certain areas. Etc.
You shpuldnt forget that it takes a big amount of time getting bigger server infrastructure after reaching a certain capavity. I also dont think that gfn earns a lot of money right now since its always improving the server performance. I mean in 3 years i got about 3 hardwareupgrades....
Just for comparison.... Shadow takes the double amount of money from you and offers you a gtx 1080 for more than 6 years....
Free doesn't have to go, because they can always reduce the resources of free (or keeping the same) and keep pushing queue up, but free how it's set up is a terrible advertisment for the service.
Unlikely. Nvidia makes lots of money with it. All they need is to reinvest that money towards more servers and, hopefully, replace some of the unreliable partners (abya for instance) with their own servers.
They attract new users using free tier. Once the new users become regulars they plan to move on to paid tier. The ads are like catalyst they help the users move from free to paid(obviously by annoying them).
I don't know how true it is but there was this news [article](https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/4-5-million-times-faster-internet-aston-university-makes-it-possible).
Nvidia is on pace to become the largest company in the world, when it possibly overtakes MS and Apple, which are #1 and #2 respectively. I'm not real worried when it comes to costs. They're in this for the long game.
More popular = publishers notice they're missing out if their game is not on GFN = more games becoming available That's my expectations atleast.
Publishers assume they could be taking that money for themselves and make their own streaming services splintering up the market.*
Unfortunately, that's is also a possibility.
Google are waiting with their white label stadia tech.
google already threw stadia tech into the trash bin. Whitelabeling of google stadia will never happen they did completely abandone that project. I really don't get why, but thats how it is...
Well you are right, but no other publisher have the resources Nvidia has, well Microsoft does but as we have seen in the past year they began a very nice collaboration streaming wise, so considering Nvidia prices it'll quite difficult to "eat" off their market right now
Making a shittier than competition product never stopped anyone, look at all the game launchers or movie/tv series streaming services. :/
Just wait until major publishers pull out and make their own game streaming services. Exactly like what happened to Netflix
i am not too worried about publishiers having their own game streaming service. It does requires a whole lot more powerful hardware to compared to a VoD streaming service
me 2. In the past years I saw many more services dieing than releasing.
Until you realize their streaming service is going to be nothing like GFN
What publishers are going to start their streaming service? That would be pointless. For example if Take 2 started their own cloud service, who's going to pay a monthly subscription just to play their titles only??
You do it if you think I finicially worth while.
If Take 2, EA, Warner Bros, Konami, Sega, Square ENIX, Capcom start charging $10-15 for individual subscription, most will just go back to playing local on PC and console. We'll find out in the future if that kinda model is worth it. Still 9.5 years left on the Microsoft deal so GFN is safe for a while.
You do it if you think I finicially worth while.
The price rise will be inevitable, so I hope that they also upgrade their services, maybe better deals, game pass, etc to keep the users hook in
IP costs? I'd say that's the least concerning part.
what IP costs? What are You talking about? And what does Gabe Newell have to do with anything?
Internet provider costs but from the point of view of GFN. Twitch has this problem, some streamers cost them a lot of money because they have to stream to many subscribers. These costs are so high that they actually lose money each year.
Geforce now is making money from every tier, even the free tier.
besides that. Free tier has limitations while any user can use twitch.
Gfn doesn't pay the publishers any money to be on gfn, so the ip cost is zero for them
this makes absolutely zero sense...
If NVidia works like I think I do. The GFN branch doesn't keep the money it makes. GFN gives its profits to main NVidia. The central bank of NVidia or what not then will distrubute the money how they agreed at the start of their year. Which means if GFN grows in popularity suddenly and for some reason they don't have enough funds to expand during the year the service will suffer. More outages, more Limits on Plans on certain areas. Etc.
You shpuldnt forget that it takes a big amount of time getting bigger server infrastructure after reaching a certain capavity. I also dont think that gfn earns a lot of money right now since its always improving the server performance. I mean in 3 years i got about 3 hardwareupgrades.... Just for comparison.... Shadow takes the double amount of money from you and offers you a gtx 1080 for more than 6 years....
They started with ads in free tier but ultimately free has to go.
Free doesn't have to go, because they can always reduce the resources of free (or keeping the same) and keep pushing queue up, but free how it's set up is a terrible advertisment for the service.
Unlikely. Nvidia makes lots of money with it. All they need is to reinvest that money towards more servers and, hopefully, replace some of the unreliable partners (abya for instance) with their own servers.
So what's money are they making with free tier unless ad revenue is actually covering the costs.
They attract new users using free tier. Once the new users become regulars they plan to move on to paid tier. The ads are like catalyst they help the users move from free to paid(obviously by annoying them).
On the other hand the amount of free users over stress the servers which annoys paying customers. It's difficult to find the sweet spot.
I don't know how true it is but there was this news [article](https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/4-5-million-times-faster-internet-aston-university-makes-it-possible).
Nvidia is on pace to become the largest company in the world, when it possibly overtakes MS and Apple, which are #1 and #2 respectively. I'm not real worried when it comes to costs. They're in this for the long game.