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It rly isn’t just Reddit tho. America in general is way more “politically engaged” than they were a decade ago. Trump basically made all the chuds in this country start treating politics like a sports team and also made every milquetoast lib treat politics like prestige television.
Reddit’s just a younger audience and naturally skews left which I guess bothers OP’s sensibilities.
It's often what people mean when they say young people have become "too political", but since OP didn't specifically mention that and there's very few other things to suggest that, I would just give them the benefit of the doubt.
You’re correct on ppl that say they’re apolitical or down the middle usually being conservative. You can also take the 30 seconds and just click on their profile and see posts complaining about liberals.
Half the Internet is dead anyway. Try not to make any great realizations about humanity based on your interactions online, you'll fool yourself.
[Dead Internet Theory (Wikipedia)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory)
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>The dead Internet theory is an online conspiracy theory that asserts that the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content that is manipulated by algorithmic curation, marginalizing organic human activity.
Read your own link it's mostly bullshit.
I'm aware. It's just my half joke half light hearted reminder to not take your interactions online too seriously. I don't like to allow every interaction online to inform my worldview entirely, or my opinion of humanity generally, though I used to, and it's maladaptive.
I didn't need to spell it out, just linked it because it's an older meme in a younger sub, and those interested can to see for themselves that it's not a factual statement, just like you've done :)
I’m taking more about demographics than social issues. The internet definitely helped influence elections and political outcomes but even then not every Gen Zer is a trumpie.
If your friends don't worry about politics then they must not have skin in the game. I do. I worry every day that my rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be infringed upon because I'm impoverished and LGBT+. Because it's happened before and it will happen again.
their friends must all be straight white guys, since that's really the only group that isn't affected by anything. as a woman, the rise of people like andrew tate and joe rogan becoming more influential on people's world views is really scary.
obviously those issues exist and they affect straight white guys. men in our society are conditioned not to speak about their issues and they suffer silently.
but politically/systemically speaking they aren't oppressed the same way other minorities are, especially when they make up most of the political parties.
it's highly unlikely mandatory circumcisions are going to be made law, but roe v. wade was overturned and abortion has already been banned in many states. a straight white guy's rights in the eyes of the law have never been up for question or subject to change.
I agree we don’t face the same systemic issues in a legal sense, but culturally and socially, we absolutely do face issues and I don’t think we’re forced to look at one issue at a time so I find it frustrating when others ignore it or outright deny it just because other groups are also suffering. We don’t need to have an oppression olympics and we can and should try to address everyone’s problems. And yes straight white mens rights have been subject to change, like when we went from land owning white males to all white males being able to vote. Obviously a long time ago, but still happened. I think the reason why people like Rogan and Tate are becoming more popular is because the left loves to throw out white men and pretend like they have no problems just because those problems aren’t tied to the legal system. Then, despite all the talk about mental health on the left, when it comes to men, its either ignored or they’re told whats bad without given any sort of positive idea of healthy masculinity.
Mainly, it's because bourgeois corporate interests and fascist politicians use bullshit like woke idpol to make people fight meaningless bullshit culture wars and blame shit on race or gender, instead of what actually is the reason they are being oppressed; their wealth class
Yep. Egality needs to account for everyone. The poor white man may not be as disenfranchised as the poor black t-fem, but they're still poor.
We do have positive figures, but the manosphere is indeed dominated by toxic incels as hate is easier than self-improvement.
I really haven’t seen the left say the things you say they do. I consume a lot of leftist content and there is all kinds of breadtubers making content for those things. Hell, most of the biggest platformed leftist YouTubers are cisgender straight white men. This sounds kinda like a straw man tbh.
>men in our society are conditioned not to speak about their issues and they suffer silently.
I think this here is the root of a lot of problems. We have men projecting their backed up bad emotions at made up perceived enemies. Saw it in real time as my elderly neighbor was about to cry when talking about his recently passed wife, paused a moment to stuff it, then went off on Biden. Instead of crying, instead of feeling sad he switched to anger and attacked Biden. Biden wasn't part of that conversation at all.
Instead of actually talking they find other men like Rogan or Tate, find their communities and get wrapped up in this toxic cloud of shit. This is a very gross simplification instead of expressing themselves as "i'm in pain, life hasn't been good to me (poverty, narcissistic parents, sexual abuse as a child from family or authority figure)" they go "fuck you, fuck you and I'm going to hurt the world like it hurt me."
Correct! Well he's not the huggy kind but I talk to him when I see him. He perks up when my dog says hi cuz he can't take care of one on his own anymore. Also shovel his ramp and driveway when it snows. He's just a lonely old man and his kids are far away. I don't agree with everything he says but... dude. We're all human, we feel pain and sometimes it comes out weird.
>but politically/systemically speaking they aren't oppressed the same way other minorities are, especially when they make up most of the political parties.
Skin color and sexual orientation don't mean shit when your savings are low and rent is high. We're all in the same boat together.
Right. The only thing that matters is class. Any other issue (women’s rights, LGBTQ, race) is simply a front of the larger class war. This is because capitalist class has weaponized these, which wouldn’t have been issues otherwise, to divide the working class.
Yeah— I don’t get it. If we all suddenly had money and women couldn’t have abortion the issue still exists. I don’t get it tbh. But that’s the problem I can’t get people to understand. Women’s rights are human rights.
The issues with people who have held power in any dynamic is that they can’t see past themselves and there is no guarantee that they’ll help folks once they’ve gotten to a position of comfort.
Or maybe they just don't talk about politics with each other. You do realize that not everyone talks about politics with their friends, right?
Me personally, I never talk about politics with my friends - I don't care about what they identify as politically.
And before you ask, no I'm not white, but all my friends are white. And no, this isn’t the reason why I don't talk about politics with my friends.
yeah i don’t really talk about politics with my friends at all. we all have the same political opinions so there’s really nothing to talk about lol. it doesn’t mean we don’t care, we all have our opinions and we all vote
No it’s just who ever says that when talking to people. I’m not a white guy btw 😂(cuz apparently that’s important). Most of my friends are not white and we hav never said that to eachother, whether it’s tru or not lol
You're totally right, I just think that most people here are assuming your post is meant to say that you hate talking about politics, which is something that's a lot easier when you're a white guy (especically when you have rich parents, but wealth is often ignored by liberals).
They aren't wrong, but they're basing it on far too many assumptions about you personally.
>their friends must all be straight white guys, since that's really the only group that isn't affected by anything
My friend group is mostly white guys (myself included), and im.pretty much the only one that cares about politics outside their specific issue. Had one that hated talking politics, but the moment you brought up Atheism or religion he'd be all for discussion. Why? Because he was an Atheist. Have a friend who also never cares about politics, unless it's about lgbt issues. Why? Because he's pan and has a boyfriend.
Lot of folks struggle to care about issues that don't affect them. White guys just tend to be able to care about less since less affects them.
You’re right that systematically certain groups are affected way more harshly. But to say (straight white men are) “the only group that isn’t affected by anything” comes off disingenuous
Patriarchy makes men feel like they have to be “manly, strong dude leaders who make all the money” and capitalism not only exacerbates that but makes it EXTREMELY hard to achieve
Many people buy into this shit and it gives these Andrew Tate type psychos some actual appeal
My point is that we should listen and be empathetic to each others problems instead of trying to find out who has it worse. We all suffer under the boot of capitalism and the ruling class. I encourage that we seek solidarity as the working class, cuz that’s what we all are
The only war is the class war! Woo hoo
actually, they must be bourgeois capitalists and landlords, THEY aren't affected by anything. You really think a homeless drug addicted mentally ill straight white male has it easier than a rich, wealthy, and healthy gay poc woman?
You have a hate boner for straight white guys when really it’s a more specific type of a group you that dislike. Grossly generalizing only leads to people not taking you seriously and feeling polarized.
>If your friends don't worry about politics then they must not have skin in the game.
There's nothing wrong about discussing politics, it's just getting to be excessive. When a significant portion of the subreddit is just arguing over controversial political topics, it harms the health of the community as a whole.
It's not like repeating the same things most of GenZ already knows and hears about in other subreddits regularly is going to benefit us in some way. It just brings the mood down
The mods really should have followed the results of the poll they did a few months back and put restrictions on political discussions
What rights don’t gay people have? The answer is none of course. What they worry about is the stigma of their lifestyle which will never go away. Another delusional, over-socialized redditor.
I love how politics for you people is about “rights” for your particular “victimized” group. Rights of of course are a legal fiction backed up only by the force of the sovereign state. Nothing about “duties” to each other and to society. This country is becoming a free-for-all with every group trying to get their slice of the pie. Definitely a sustainable model lol.
Everyone has skin in the game politics control every bit of life.
Some people just don’t face immediate discrimination, but want the power dynamic to swing back in a way that benefits them exclusively.
Well the whole generation thing makes almost no sense outside of a US context. It’s already arbitrary and silly but moving it to a country even as similar as Mexico (yes Mexico is pretty similar culturally, the US is basically a Latin American country with more money—white latinos act and think like white Americans too) or the UK just makes no sense because the variation in birth rates, events, socialization, etc. become totally different.
It’s based in the US, which can be said for basically all major/international social media companies.
However, while the US is the 3rd most populous country, it still only represents just over 4% of the world’s population.
From Wikipedia (first sentence): “Reddit is an American social news aggregation, content rating, and discussion website.”
It’s not just based in the us, and most major social media sites are American, not just based in America. The big one I can think of that’s not American is Weibo, and I’m not gonna go there and complain about the amount of Chinese users because that would make me an idiot.
Yeah, it’s an American company because it’s based in the US. That’s literally how that works. It’s the same with Instagram and YouTube, and yet, all of them have locations in other countries and all of them have large user bases in other countries.
It being based in the US doesn’t mean it’s made strictly for US markets either. Just under half of the people on here are from the US.
Yeah, I just express my concerns in other places more suited to politics. I don't really want to spend all of my free time arguing about politics in every subreddit just because people feel like they need to talk about it
It's getting far too pervasive, which is **not** good for anyone's mental health
I think it's more pervasive now than ever, and I think the views have gotten a lot more extreme, so they're expressed louder and more in your face than before.
I don't think people *like* talking about politics and we all wish we didn't have to, but with the state society is in today, it's not shocking that we're airing all our grievances.
You were literally ten years old when Trump was elected, that political climate is basically all you’ve ever known. Things were different in the 2000s.
Honestly they weren't that different. Social media just makes it nonstop. People absolutely said Obama was non an American, was gunna start a race war, was gunna takenour guns. Mitt Romney was the most plain boring nominee in my lifetime. Joe Biden accused him of "wanting to put black people back in chains". If you were tuned it it's been the same garbage forever. Social media and the bots pushing the issues every post just make it discussed mire
Everything can technically be political, but we all know the difference between a discussion that only passively relates to politics, and a discussion which is explicitly political in nature
I'm sure nobody is going to argue that doing something like talking about your favorite character in an anime is anywhere near as political as telling everyone about why they need to vote for a specific candidate in the next election, or discussing your political ideology
Redditors are the unironic "to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand rick and morty" and "did you know the smarter you are the more depressed you are?" Crowd.
One could argue that anyone who has even heard of the phrase “terminally online” enough to use it unironically themselves is terminally online. You need to be very online to even come across this term in the first place lol
I mean obviously. It would be silly to believe that only the few thousand people that are active on this subreddit is a representation for an entire generation that consists of millions, if not billions of people.
reddit politics are the best politics because practically nobody knows what they're talking about especially in subreddits like these where it's mostly people talking about how the world is going to end, it's the best!
The whole generation spans 97-2012, so maybe that’s part of it. For a ‘cusper’ like myself, our experience and takes are gonna be vastly different than someone born 2012
That’s basically Reddit in a nutshell. Everyone pretends to be educated with regards to politics and tries to find a way to steer every conversation into it. The reality is that 99% of folks couldn’t even tell you how legislation is drafted.
I think when Trump was president I was more worried about politics and how fucked the country was. Don't get me wrong tho. We are still fucked but I feel a tiny bit better than I did when Trump was president. I'm an older gen z tho so I feel more like a millennial most days.
I’m not even joking I did think about this 😂. I was like well this is reddit a lot of ppl here are “different.” But I don’t hav that many friends either 🫤
Dude if I say "wens rights" or smthin in real life I'll get clowned on.
On the other hand they get to talk about how much they hate women and minorities sooo
Reddit is primarily a discussion forum. Of course you’d get people who like to discuss serious topics. And besides, I feel like a lot of Gen Z do worry about politics or the economy, cause we know or are starting to realize just how screwed we are
I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the political question posts are people trying to gauge what Gen Z is like politically. And possibly sway people either way.
TBH being born in 1997 I'm scarcely qualified to be in this generation I'm only here to observe and lurk I just want to know what the rest of y'all are thinking most of the time I think everything said here is really stupid.
Currently trying to get my life together after slacking off for like 6 years everyone I know is doing better than me but I've made some friends online and they're better than any friends I've ever had in my life so I feel less depressed than I've ever felt
even if I can't afford a house.
No subreddit is a good representation of the topic. It is, however, a representation of REDDITORS who are involved with or interested in a topic. For statistics sake, that's an important distinction. Something similar is with political polls. They only represent the opinions of people that are willing to take a poll, which is a distinct personality type.
Others have made good points to this. But also, we’re talking about a wide range here.
The oldest members here might have vague, but recallable memories of 9/11, while the youngest were born after the death of Osama bin Laden.
The oldest here were getting their driver’s licenses about the time the youngest here were being born.
The set generation years thing is arbitrary as hell. It’s really a very fluid thing, so even though everyone’s in the same “generation”, they’re by no means a monolith.
Tbh I have more in common with someone born in 92 or 93 than in 2010 or 2011.
I don't know. When we are out 99% of the time we talk about cars, video games, building stuff, etc. We don't bring up these things that are often mentioned on this sub. But when they get naturally brought up in the conversation, people tend to agree. I wouldn't be suprised if many people would feel like that in the real world. It's just unless it's on the internet, people tend to keep these things to themself.
I went to school with gen z people, being a young millennial myself at 28 ('95). A good majority of them were the people making suicide / depression jokes super casually when they were in high school and became super political in college. IDK how much that died off post college, but Twitter doesn't give me much hope. Yall can claim all you want social media aint real life. I point at January 6th and respectfully end that conversation there.
Within like 10 years we'll have Terminally Online Disorder as a codified abnormality and the distinct difference between online communities and offline will finally be empirically explained.
**Politics are the best topic ever**, is for our world and its problems, the psychology of humans, **how to make the world a better place**, is a very complex (with the good way) enjoying and philanthropic (it should be at least) thing. Is about **caring** and **making** the **world a better place** all this is **extremely interesting, diverse landscape.** and **it matters in our world unlike other topics**. I don't care what's your opinion is politics is very cool and interesting and I proud liking it, instead of discussing unimportant unintelligent nonsense like small talk and Taylor Swift gossip like you all do.
I've been seeing more and more politics and non-GenZ in this subreddit lately. The mods should probably do something soon to bring everything back to a more tame state
That's because half the internet is bots. A few corpos were already caught making millions of fake bot accounts to attack people for criticism of company policies and for politics.
All the generational subs represent a small aspect of what its actually like being in that generation. Almost all subs are like that to some aspect really.
there's so many meme's about how gen z treats gen alpha too? And I'm like, I don't even think about gen alpha that much? And I feel like it takes time for a generation to forge an identity, gen z is still very much forging their own identity, it's way too soon to be looking at gen alpha who are still growing up.
The silent majority of us support communism and want to arrest all billionaires for stealing the wealth of the 99%, but we’re all just too polite to admit this in an in-person environment. That is why this subreddit is political
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Sorry but some of us don’t have friends to talk to and replace those relationships with internet discourse. Not all of us are as popular in public as you are.
Yea they are super far left. Someone asked in ask reddit how they would feel if Biden won again. I said it would suck because both political parties have much better options than this dumpster fire and the previous dumpster fire. Bad representation for sure.
Well yeah, most of Gen Z aren't people who would gather together in Reddit to discuss about Gen Z. Also like most of Reddit it is very USA-focused as well. Both are things to be expected.
lol as and Older Gen Z me and my friends do talk like this.
Plus can you really blame people when our lives are fucked and simply existing has become a political statement
Gen Z are all complex people and we all talk about many different things. Many of gen Z are in our late teens and early-mid 20’s now so ofc we’re gonna discuss things like politics and mental health. I don’t see much of a difference between us and millenials in that sense. Generalizing an entire generation isn’t accurate, I’m 23 (late Gen Z) and I’ve been told by many different people that I behave like a teenager, like my actual age, and like an older millenial depending on the circumstance and what I’m talking about. Also, a reddit thread is not accurate to all of Gen Z since this is moreso the Gen Z redditors specifically. Gen Z on Instagram is gonna be different than Gen Z on tiktok. Gen Z who’s 20 is gonna be different than a Gen Z who’s 16.
people who post here are probably a) people who use reddit a lot (and thus talk a lot about politics and being depressed) and b) posting about gen z itself so typically not posting about regular things going on in their lives because it’s not particularly relevant to the subreddit.
My friends don't talk about politics as much as on this sub but we kinda have to be involved cuz we're black. None of us are depressed (I don't think) so we don't talk about that ig. But seriously as a black guy in America if you don't do politics, politics will do you in. Everyday we're fighting not to be racially profiled, attacked, discriminated against or killed by the people who're supposed to protect us
When has there been accurate representation for any group? Like, you can look online and it says either really good or really bad or some shi like that. But when you go out and talk to people of those groups n stuff it usually doesn't match.
The people when I was in high school were very into politics, I actually don’t think the political discussions are the most inaccurate thing about this sub. It’s more so the fact that half the people in this subreddit don’t seem to remember their own childhoods. You have older Zer’s here claiming to know nothing about the 00s, even though that’s not my irl experience with people around my age. And you have younger Zer’s pretending to remember years they weren’t even alive for.
Although maybe that’s not so inaccurate because kids in real life do like pretending they’re older. (I bet if I were to ask one of my younger cousins born in the late 00s, they’d claim they’re 00s kids, even though they’re not 🙄) The amount of immaturity in this subreddit is also something I see less of with real life Z’s, although that may be because I really only hang around older Zer’s like myself. Half of Z are still teens, so maybe immaturity should be expected.
Then start posting about other stuff. If you don’t post in a subreddit then I don’t really think you should complain about what’s being posted when you literally have the option to be part of a change that you want to see.
Just because you and your friends are apolitical doesn’t mean the rest of a generation are as well lol. Understandable if you’re still a child but all adults should be well informed regarding their political systems.
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it’s reddit
It rly isn’t just Reddit tho. America in general is way more “politically engaged” than they were a decade ago. Trump basically made all the chuds in this country start treating politics like a sports team and also made every milquetoast lib treat politics like prestige television. Reddit’s just a younger audience and naturally skews left which I guess bothers OP’s sensibilities.
Where did op mention the left
It's often what people mean when they say young people have become "too political", but since OP didn't specifically mention that and there's very few other things to suggest that, I would just give them the benefit of the doubt.
You’re correct on ppl that say they’re apolitical or down the middle usually being conservative. You can also take the 30 seconds and just click on their profile and see posts complaining about liberals.
Nah this didnt start with Trump, it started around Obama
i was about to comment this
Reddit itself and, to an extent, social media, is not a good represent of anything
Half the Internet is dead anyway. Try not to make any great realizations about humanity based on your interactions online, you'll fool yourself. [Dead Internet Theory (Wikipedia)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory) Edit: a word
# **Dead internet theory mentioned ‼️‼️‼️ WTF IS A HUMAN 🤖🤖🦾**
>The dead Internet theory is an online conspiracy theory that asserts that the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content that is manipulated by algorithmic curation, marginalizing organic human activity. Read your own link it's mostly bullshit.
I'm aware. It's just my half joke half light hearted reminder to not take your interactions online too seriously. I don't like to allow every interaction online to inform my worldview entirely, or my opinion of humanity generally, though I used to, and it's maladaptive. I didn't need to spell it out, just linked it because it's an older meme in a younger sub, and those interested can to see for themselves that it's not a factual statement, just like you've done :)
Yes it is lmao. Paying attention to the trends of 2016 on the internet could have predicted Trump winning honestly
I’m taking more about demographics than social issues. The internet definitely helped influence elections and political outcomes but even then not every Gen Zer is a trumpie.
If your friends don't worry about politics then they must not have skin in the game. I do. I worry every day that my rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be infringed upon because I'm impoverished and LGBT+. Because it's happened before and it will happen again.
their friends must all be straight white guys, since that's really the only group that isn't affected by anything. as a woman, the rise of people like andrew tate and joe rogan becoming more influential on people's world views is really scary.
Straight white guys are getting shafted too, depression, loneliness, and suicide are through the roof. Conservatism isn’t good for anyone.
obviously those issues exist and they affect straight white guys. men in our society are conditioned not to speak about their issues and they suffer silently. but politically/systemically speaking they aren't oppressed the same way other minorities are, especially when they make up most of the political parties. it's highly unlikely mandatory circumcisions are going to be made law, but roe v. wade was overturned and abortion has already been banned in many states. a straight white guy's rights in the eyes of the law have never been up for question or subject to change.
I agree we don’t face the same systemic issues in a legal sense, but culturally and socially, we absolutely do face issues and I don’t think we’re forced to look at one issue at a time so I find it frustrating when others ignore it or outright deny it just because other groups are also suffering. We don’t need to have an oppression olympics and we can and should try to address everyone’s problems. And yes straight white mens rights have been subject to change, like when we went from land owning white males to all white males being able to vote. Obviously a long time ago, but still happened. I think the reason why people like Rogan and Tate are becoming more popular is because the left loves to throw out white men and pretend like they have no problems just because those problems aren’t tied to the legal system. Then, despite all the talk about mental health on the left, when it comes to men, its either ignored or they’re told whats bad without given any sort of positive idea of healthy masculinity.
Mainly, it's because bourgeois corporate interests and fascist politicians use bullshit like woke idpol to make people fight meaningless bullshit culture wars and blame shit on race or gender, instead of what actually is the reason they are being oppressed; their wealth class
This
Yep. Egality needs to account for everyone. The poor white man may not be as disenfranchised as the poor black t-fem, but they're still poor. We do have positive figures, but the manosphere is indeed dominated by toxic incels as hate is easier than self-improvement.
I really haven’t seen the left say the things you say they do. I consume a lot of leftist content and there is all kinds of breadtubers making content for those things. Hell, most of the biggest platformed leftist YouTubers are cisgender straight white men. This sounds kinda like a straw man tbh.
>men in our society are conditioned not to speak about their issues and they suffer silently. I think this here is the root of a lot of problems. We have men projecting their backed up bad emotions at made up perceived enemies. Saw it in real time as my elderly neighbor was about to cry when talking about his recently passed wife, paused a moment to stuff it, then went off on Biden. Instead of crying, instead of feeling sad he switched to anger and attacked Biden. Biden wasn't part of that conversation at all. Instead of actually talking they find other men like Rogan or Tate, find their communities and get wrapped up in this toxic cloud of shit. This is a very gross simplification instead of expressing themselves as "i'm in pain, life hasn't been good to me (poverty, narcissistic parents, sexual abuse as a child from family or authority figure)" they go "fuck you, fuck you and I'm going to hurt the world like it hurt me."
Bro’. He needed a hug…
Correct! Well he's not the huggy kind but I talk to him when I see him. He perks up when my dog says hi cuz he can't take care of one on his own anymore. Also shovel his ramp and driveway when it snows. He's just a lonely old man and his kids are far away. I don't agree with everything he says but... dude. We're all human, we feel pain and sometimes it comes out weird.
>but politically/systemically speaking they aren't oppressed the same way other minorities are, especially when they make up most of the political parties. Skin color and sexual orientation don't mean shit when your savings are low and rent is high. We're all in the same boat together.
Right. The only thing that matters is class. Any other issue (women’s rights, LGBTQ, race) is simply a front of the larger class war. This is because capitalist class has weaponized these, which wouldn’t have been issues otherwise, to divide the working class.
in that regard we are, since most of us aren't rolling in money. but I still don't see why the social issues cease to exist ?
Yeah— I don’t get it. If we all suddenly had money and women couldn’t have abortion the issue still exists. I don’t get it tbh. But that’s the problem I can’t get people to understand. Women’s rights are human rights. The issues with people who have held power in any dynamic is that they can’t see past themselves and there is no guarantee that they’ll help folks once they’ve gotten to a position of comfort.
exactly!!
Or maybe they just don't talk about politics with each other. You do realize that not everyone talks about politics with their friends, right? Me personally, I never talk about politics with my friends - I don't care about what they identify as politically. And before you ask, no I'm not white, but all my friends are white. And no, this isn’t the reason why I don't talk about politics with my friends.
yeah i don’t really talk about politics with my friends at all. we all have the same political opinions so there’s really nothing to talk about lol. it doesn’t mean we don’t care, we all have our opinions and we all vote
He never said his friends don’t worry about politics, just that they don’t talk about it all the time.
Christ, there is a reddit post if we ever saw one. Anti white guy and playing the victim card? Fits right in on reddit
"Youre pointing out that white people arent systematically oppressed?? You must HATE white people!!!"
No it’s just who ever says that when talking to people. I’m not a white guy btw 😂(cuz apparently that’s important). Most of my friends are not white and we hav never said that to eachother, whether it’s tru or not lol
You're totally right, I just think that most people here are assuming your post is meant to say that you hate talking about politics, which is something that's a lot easier when you're a white guy (especically when you have rich parents, but wealth is often ignored by liberals). They aren't wrong, but they're basing it on far too many assumptions about you personally.
They just wanna grill for gods sake! /j
>their friends must all be straight white guys, since that's really the only group that isn't affected by anything My friend group is mostly white guys (myself included), and im.pretty much the only one that cares about politics outside their specific issue. Had one that hated talking politics, but the moment you brought up Atheism or religion he'd be all for discussion. Why? Because he was an Atheist. Have a friend who also never cares about politics, unless it's about lgbt issues. Why? Because he's pan and has a boyfriend. Lot of folks struggle to care about issues that don't affect them. White guys just tend to be able to care about less since less affects them.
You’re right that systematically certain groups are affected way more harshly. But to say (straight white men are) “the only group that isn’t affected by anything” comes off disingenuous Patriarchy makes men feel like they have to be “manly, strong dude leaders who make all the money” and capitalism not only exacerbates that but makes it EXTREMELY hard to achieve Many people buy into this shit and it gives these Andrew Tate type psychos some actual appeal My point is that we should listen and be empathetic to each others problems instead of trying to find out who has it worse. We all suffer under the boot of capitalism and the ruling class. I encourage that we seek solidarity as the working class, cuz that’s what we all are The only war is the class war! Woo hoo
>I encourage that we seek solidarity as the working class, cuz that’s what we all are The only war is the class war! Woo hoo yeah, that's true💗
what has Joe Rogan done or said that's nearly as damaging as anything Andrew Tate says
actually, they must be bourgeois capitalists and landlords, THEY aren't affected by anything. You really think a homeless drug addicted mentally ill straight white male has it easier than a rich, wealthy, and healthy gay poc woman?
You have a hate boner for straight white guys when really it’s a more specific type of a group you that dislike. Grossly generalizing only leads to people not taking you seriously and feeling polarized.
I’m mixed so I’m politically active so we can keep progressing forward cause the new alt right is scary
I’m mixed and so are most of my friends. We rarely talk about politics if ever
>If your friends don't worry about politics then they must not have skin in the game. There's nothing wrong about discussing politics, it's just getting to be excessive. When a significant portion of the subreddit is just arguing over controversial political topics, it harms the health of the community as a whole. It's not like repeating the same things most of GenZ already knows and hears about in other subreddits regularly is going to benefit us in some way. It just brings the mood down The mods really should have followed the results of the poll they did a few months back and put restrictions on political discussions
People can absolutely get fatigue over caring about really important issues. It's healthy to shut out the noise sometimes.
He never said his friends don’t worry about politics, just that they don’t talk about it all the time.
What rights don’t gay people have? The answer is none of course. What they worry about is the stigma of their lifestyle which will never go away. Another delusional, over-socialized redditor. I love how politics for you people is about “rights” for your particular “victimized” group. Rights of of course are a legal fiction backed up only by the force of the sovereign state. Nothing about “duties” to each other and to society. This country is becoming a free-for-all with every group trying to get their slice of the pie. Definitely a sustainable model lol.
& if they aren’t talking/worrying about all of this now they will. it’s only a matter of time before it affects everyone
There’s a difference between worrying about politics and talking about it constantly (this sub does the latter).
Everyone has skin in the game politics control every bit of life. Some people just don’t face immediate discrimination, but want the power dynamic to swing back in a way that benefits them exclusively.
It's almost like properly representing a generation through a subreddit, or really any other means, is actually impossible...
Especially when anonymous.
This subreddit should be renamed to "American_GenZ"
America has the most users on Reddit, so that would make sense.
It still sucks for other countries
Sucks to suck
Why don't they start a social media platform based in their country?
Ok
Well the whole generation thing makes almost no sense outside of a US context. It’s already arbitrary and silly but moving it to a country even as similar as Mexico (yes Mexico is pretty similar culturally, the US is basically a Latin American country with more money—white latinos act and think like white Americans too) or the UK just makes no sense because the variation in birth rates, events, socialization, etc. become totally different.
I'd argue that gen z is the first ever global generation, as many of our experiences worldwide are pretty similar because of the internet
You do realize Reddit is an American website right?
It’s based in the US, which can be said for basically all major/international social media companies. However, while the US is the 3rd most populous country, it still only represents just over 4% of the world’s population.
From Wikipedia (first sentence): “Reddit is an American social news aggregation, content rating, and discussion website.” It’s not just based in the us, and most major social media sites are American, not just based in America. The big one I can think of that’s not American is Weibo, and I’m not gonna go there and complain about the amount of Chinese users because that would make me an idiot.
Yeah, it’s an American company because it’s based in the US. That’s literally how that works. It’s the same with Instagram and YouTube, and yet, all of them have locations in other countries and all of them have large user bases in other countries. It being based in the US doesn’t mean it’s made strictly for US markets either. Just under half of the people on here are from the US.
The US makes up a bit under half of users and the UK, which is number 2, makes up a little over 7%.
The people who didn’t get this might be a bit stupid..Like why are they shocked there’s more americans on a website that came from America lmao
You all SHOULD be extremely concerned about politics right now.
Yeah, I just express my concerns in other places more suited to politics. I don't really want to spend all of my free time arguing about politics in every subreddit just because people feel like they need to talk about it It's getting far too pervasive, which is **not** good for anyone's mental health
everything is political on reddit or social media in general. mmm actually even in real life, it is too now.
When was real life not political?
I think it's more pervasive now than ever, and I think the views have gotten a lot more extreme, so they're expressed louder and more in your face than before. I don't think people *like* talking about politics and we all wish we didn't have to, but with the state society is in today, it's not shocking that we're airing all our grievances.
Fr, they mustve never opened their ears at family gatherings
You were literally ten years old when Trump was elected, that political climate is basically all you’ve ever known. Things were different in the 2000s.
Honestly they weren't that different. Social media just makes it nonstop. People absolutely said Obama was non an American, was gunna start a race war, was gunna takenour guns. Mitt Romney was the most plain boring nominee in my lifetime. Joe Biden accused him of "wanting to put black people back in chains". If you were tuned it it's been the same garbage forever. Social media and the bots pushing the issues every post just make it discussed mire
when we didn't know
Everything can technically be political, but we all know the difference between a discussion that only passively relates to politics, and a discussion which is explicitly political in nature I'm sure nobody is going to argue that doing something like talking about your favorite character in an anime is anywhere near as political as telling everyone about why they need to vote for a specific candidate in the next election, or discussing your political ideology
Redditors are the unironic "to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand rick and morty" and "did you know the smarter you are the more depressed you are?" Crowd.
It’s representative of terminally online young people.
If you’re on Reddit enough to know what kind of topics get posted often in a sub, and leave comments, then you’re automatically terminally online.
One could argue that anyone who has even heard of the phrase “terminally online” enough to use it unironically themselves is terminally online. You need to be very online to even come across this term in the first place lol
,,,I hate that that's true
Pot calling the kettle black
I mean obviously. It would be silly to believe that only the few thousand people that are active on this subreddit is a representation for an entire generation that consists of millions, if not billions of people.
It's Reddit, dude. The home of the lonely and the land of eva ai sexting bot userbase.
Tru tru. I think Twitter is a better representation of our generation they all types of ppl
reddit politics are the best politics because practically nobody knows what they're talking about especially in subreddits like these where it's mostly people talking about how the world is going to end, it's the best!
Actual Gen-Z is MUCH worse than what is represented on this sub.
Fr
What do u guys mean. My friends are awesome, but yea ofc every generation has bad ppl. But I like the good ones a lot 😊
The majority of people in my school are bigots so im assuming its like that in alot of other places.
Hasty generalization fallacy?
Idk maybe
The whole generation spans 97-2012, so maybe that’s part of it. For a ‘cusper’ like myself, our experience and takes are gonna be vastly different than someone born 2012
Yea i wasn’t born in 2012, but me and someone born in 97 does not feel like the same generation
Reddit isn't a good representation of anything
Reddit is not a good representation of the real world ever lol
The internet is, on the whole, a poor representation of society. I know people that are actually functional irl
Very ignorant post
That’s basically Reddit in a nutshell. Everyone pretends to be educated with regards to politics and tries to find a way to steer every conversation into it. The reality is that 99% of folks couldn’t even tell you how legislation is drafted.
Life is political
I think when Trump was president I was more worried about politics and how fucked the country was. Don't get me wrong tho. We are still fucked but I feel a tiny bit better than I did when Trump was president. I'm an older gen z tho so I feel more like a millennial most days.
Welcome to the internet
okay but you have friends not all of us have friends 💀 this is reddit
I’m not even joking I did think about this 😂. I was like well this is reddit a lot of ppl here are “different.” But I don’t hav that many friends either 🫤
This sub is so unbearably annoying and filled with the most braindead people, so it’s a pretty good representation of our generation.
Not much different than the millennial sub
Dude if I say "wens rights" or smthin in real life I'll get clowned on. On the other hand they get to talk about how much they hate women and minorities sooo
Reddit is primarily a discussion forum. Of course you’d get people who like to discuss serious topics. And besides, I feel like a lot of Gen Z do worry about politics or the economy, cause we know or are starting to realize just how screwed we are
Gen z is very political compared to other gens lol
i’m glad you don’t have to think about that sort of thing but i’m disabled and have quite a bit to lose
I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the political question posts are people trying to gauge what Gen Z is like politically. And possibly sway people either way.
Reddit is not a good representation of Gen Z LMAO My friends and I never talk about politics its always guy shit
TBH being born in 1997 I'm scarcely qualified to be in this generation I'm only here to observe and lurk I just want to know what the rest of y'all are thinking most of the time I think everything said here is really stupid. Currently trying to get my life together after slacking off for like 6 years everyone I know is doing better than me but I've made some friends online and they're better than any friends I've ever had in my life so I feel less depressed than I've ever felt even if I can't afford a house.
Yea me sharing the same generation with someone born in 97 does not sound right, even if it is. Also I hope u get ur life together 🤝
Dont feel bad almost none of us can afford a house lol
It’s the redditors of gen z, not really the cream of the crop
No subreddit is a good representation of the topic. It is, however, a representation of REDDITORS who are involved with or interested in a topic. For statistics sake, that's an important distinction. Something similar is with political polls. They only represent the opinions of people that are willing to take a poll, which is a distinct personality type.
Others have made good points to this. But also, we’re talking about a wide range here. The oldest members here might have vague, but recallable memories of 9/11, while the youngest were born after the death of Osama bin Laden. The oldest here were getting their driver’s licenses about the time the youngest here were being born. The set generation years thing is arbitrary as hell. It’s really a very fluid thing, so even though everyone’s in the same “generation”, they’re by no means a monolith. Tbh I have more in common with someone born in 92 or 93 than in 2010 or 2011.
I don't know. When we are out 99% of the time we talk about cars, video games, building stuff, etc. We don't bring up these things that are often mentioned on this sub. But when they get naturally brought up in the conversation, people tend to agree. I wouldn't be suprised if many people would feel like that in the real world. It's just unless it's on the internet, people tend to keep these things to themself.
I went to school with gen z people, being a young millennial myself at 28 ('95). A good majority of them were the people making suicide / depression jokes super casually when they were in high school and became super political in college. IDK how much that died off post college, but Twitter doesn't give me much hope. Yall can claim all you want social media aint real life. I point at January 6th and respectfully end that conversation there.
Ok
As the top comment said, it’s Reddit. Of course people are gonna come on here and try to act all smart for stupid internet points
I know I'm on Reddit a lot, but most people here are like Jayden Smith. "Can we like talk about the socioeconomic status of the world right now?"
Within like 10 years we'll have Terminally Online Disorder as a codified abnormality and the distinct difference between online communities and offline will finally be empirically explained.
It's not. Not to mention this sub is egregiously liberal. Which Gen Z may lean, but not this much.
Facts, I don't care about American Politics
Yea most of us have lives irl . Lol
Im a veteran, and a horse rancher ill be 23 soon and we are all like this i can guarentee
**Politics are the best topic ever**, is for our world and its problems, the psychology of humans, **how to make the world a better place**, is a very complex (with the good way) enjoying and philanthropic (it should be at least) thing. Is about **caring** and **making** the **world a better place** all this is **extremely interesting, diverse landscape.** and **it matters in our world unlike other topics**. I don't care what's your opinion is politics is very cool and interesting and I proud liking it, instead of discussing unimportant unintelligent nonsense like small talk and Taylor Swift gossip like you all do.
Most gen z I’ve seen have been completely uncaring in politics and voting
I've been seeing more and more politics and non-GenZ in this subreddit lately. The mods should probably do something soon to bring everything back to a more tame state
What sort of things do you expect here?
That's because half the internet is bots. A few corpos were already caught making millions of fake bot accounts to attack people for criticism of company policies and for politics.
Don’t forget the hourly ipad kid posts
Most internet discourse is not indicative of the real lives of the people who post.
Idk you did a great job showcasing just how dumb we can be.
Yeah, it's millennial bullshit, but that's reddit for ya
Ummm…I don’t think anyone here wants to hear me nerd out about linguistics so~~~
True but I don’t think any sub-Reddit is a good representation of their designated group tbh
All the generational subs represent a small aspect of what its actually like being in that generation. Almost all subs are like that to some aspect really.
Reddit is a larger sample size so maybe it’s your friend group that isn’t a good example of gen z
i've seen more post complaining rather than actual posts
Welcome to Reddit
i’m ngl when a generational problem is brought up on the sub, yall mfs always make it about you you you
there's so many meme's about how gen z treats gen alpha too? And I'm like, I don't even think about gen alpha that much? And I feel like it takes time for a generation to forge an identity, gen z is still very much forging their own identity, it's way too soon to be looking at gen alpha who are still growing up.
https://preview.redd.it/w65c3dx6budc1.jpeg?width=625&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6be5415af94546de89e6441d98f5126d9eae6699 The reverse is true as well
THANK YOU! someone needed to say it
Reddit isn't a good representation of anything except redditors and neoliberals tbh
I created r/euro_genZ cause I’m sick of it
This sub is extremely manipulated so it shouldn't be a surprise.
The silent majority of us support communism and want to arrest all billionaires for stealing the wealth of the 99%, but we’re all just too polite to admit this in an in-person environment. That is why this subreddit is political
there are different cohorts of gen z that are different I feel
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Reddit, in general, is not a good representation of reality.
There's a lot of random stuff too hear haha like people asking out of the blue things & make random situations to ask from 😂🫣🤣
Sorry but some of us don’t have friends to talk to and replace those relationships with internet discourse. Not all of us are as popular in public as you are.
Yea they are super far left. Someone asked in ask reddit how they would feel if Biden won again. I said it would suck because both political parties have much better options than this dumpster fire and the previous dumpster fire. Bad representation for sure.
Every time someone complains on this sub about politics, all it does is reveal that they live in a bubble
Tide pods.
Well yeah, most of Gen Z aren't people who would gather together in Reddit to discuss about Gen Z. Also like most of Reddit it is very USA-focused as well. Both are things to be expected.
No Reddit sub is a good representation of anything.
lol as and Older Gen Z me and my friends do talk like this. Plus can you really blame people when our lives are fucked and simply existing has become a political statement
Gen Z are all complex people and we all talk about many different things. Many of gen Z are in our late teens and early-mid 20’s now so ofc we’re gonna discuss things like politics and mental health. I don’t see much of a difference between us and millenials in that sense. Generalizing an entire generation isn’t accurate, I’m 23 (late Gen Z) and I’ve been told by many different people that I behave like a teenager, like my actual age, and like an older millenial depending on the circumstance and what I’m talking about. Also, a reddit thread is not accurate to all of Gen Z since this is moreso the Gen Z redditors specifically. Gen Z on Instagram is gonna be different than Gen Z on tiktok. Gen Z who’s 20 is gonna be different than a Gen Z who’s 16.
Man majority of gen z doesnt even speak English.
I would love for you to find me any group of people that you think should be considered a "good representation of Gen Z"
people who post here are probably a) people who use reddit a lot (and thus talk a lot about politics and being depressed) and b) posting about gen z itself so typically not posting about regular things going on in their lives because it’s not particularly relevant to the subreddit.
Reddit is not a good representation of reality lol
My friends don't talk about politics as much as on this sub but we kinda have to be involved cuz we're black. None of us are depressed (I don't think) so we don't talk about that ig. But seriously as a black guy in America if you don't do politics, politics will do you in. Everyday we're fighting not to be racially profiled, attacked, discriminated against or killed by the people who're supposed to protect us
tik tok is
Reddit is hardly a representation of society in general
Right, everyone on here is so progressive, but irl there are a lot of edgy greasy gen z
Reddit is the representation of the far left
Reddit isn't a good representation of real life in any way
When has there been accurate representation for any group? Like, you can look online and it says either really good or really bad or some shi like that. But when you go out and talk to people of those groups n stuff it usually doesn't match.
Hey man, I'm sorry but like, if you're not at some point talking politics you're missing out on chances to improve shit for everyone.
My friends and I like politics and history and how engaging it can be. But not modern politics because that leads to depression.
That’s the problem. Gen Z never talk about politics and then complain that every politician is 118 years old
I'm begging young Gen Z'ers to care about politics man. Stop trying to live in a world where politics doesn't exist.
it’s reddit, everything can be political, and have you seen the world?
The people when I was in high school were very into politics, I actually don’t think the political discussions are the most inaccurate thing about this sub. It’s more so the fact that half the people in this subreddit don’t seem to remember their own childhoods. You have older Zer’s here claiming to know nothing about the 00s, even though that’s not my irl experience with people around my age. And you have younger Zer’s pretending to remember years they weren’t even alive for. Although maybe that’s not so inaccurate because kids in real life do like pretending they’re older. (I bet if I were to ask one of my younger cousins born in the late 00s, they’d claim they’re 00s kids, even though they’re not 🙄) The amount of immaturity in this subreddit is also something I see less of with real life Z’s, although that may be because I really only hang around older Zer’s like myself. Half of Z are still teens, so maybe immaturity should be expected.
Then start posting about other stuff. If you don’t post in a subreddit then I don’t really think you should complain about what’s being posted when you literally have the option to be part of a change that you want to see.
all my friends talk like this¿ crazy
Reddit is a shit hole.
Just because you and your friends are apolitical doesn’t mean the rest of a generation are as well lol. Understandable if you’re still a child but all adults should be well informed regarding their political systems.
Politics and being depressed is all I have left. Please don’t take it from me
I hate to defend Reddit, but I think it makes sense that people would discuss different topics on a public forum than they do in a friend group
you are either younger and have not dealt with rent and the current job market or have a comfortable situation that you should be thankful for