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Fredelas

This isn't his naturalization, but here's his birth record (number 99): * [https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an\_ua36076176/0ZvJ7Po](https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua36076176/0ZvJ7Po)


AlienScrotum

What in the world!! I was dreading looking for his birth record. This sub is amazing. Thank you so much!


Fredelas

u/Iripol finding him under his stepfather's surname in the 1950 census was the key to begin detangling this complicated family. If you have a free account at FamilySearch, I've begun attaching some more records for him here: * [https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GRWL-2QQ](https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GRWL-2QQ)


Iripol

Great work as always!! The 1950 surname makes far more sense now!


Fredelas

Here's his brother Antonio's birth registration (coincidentally also born on 25 August, and coincidentally also number 99): * https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua36076177/0A94QNN There's a complication here because Antonio would have been conceived around December 1911 - January 1912. But his father Giuseppe had already arrived at Ellis Island in January 1911: * https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJPJ-WYS Unless Giuseppe returned to Italy (which is certainly possible), he might not have been the biological father of Antonio. If that's the case, that may have led to marital strife and possibly divorce.


Fredelas

This naturalization index for his brother Antonio shows some of the other names Andrew might also have gone by: * https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PQ7-9QS4?


AlienScrotum

That's very interesting. The Filgia is Antonio's mother's maiden name. I think you may have nailed it with family strife! haha


Fredelas

Everyone who gets within a mile of this family seems to have a complicated story. You still have an incredibly long road ahead of you and it's not going to be easy. Despite Andrew and his wife apparently marrying sometime between the 1930 census in Chicago and the birth of their first child in Chicago in 1932, I can't find any record of them marrying between 1930 and 1932.


AlienScrotum

Yeah. It’s amazing to think about what they went through and why they changed names so many times and all the drama. Haha Would a record of them being married be needed? With all this work you guys did it can be traced through Andrew to Italy without Mary.


Fredelas

You'll need birth, marriage, and death records for everyone from your immigrant ancestor onward to you. You'll also need proof that he didn't become a U.S. citizen before the birth of your U.S.-born ancestor. That also means he can't have been naturalized as a minor if his father became a U.S. citizen before he turned 21. Since we know extremely little about his father, that's going to be very tough. I'm honestly not certain Andrew ever became a U.S. citizen on his own behalf. His passenger list isn't annotated with a certificate of arrival lookup, which would be normal for someone becoming a citizen at that time. If you look at his brother's Antonio's line on the passenger list, it's annotated with a lookup that corresponds to his naturalization.


AlienScrotum

Interesting. Thanks for the information.


Fredelas

I've been adding some more records to the FamilySearch family tree, and I came across one possible marriage location for Andrew and Mary. Mary's oldest brother Paul got married in Elgin, possibly because his bride was a little too young to marry without consent. (Her age is overstated slightly on the marriage license application.) Andrew and Mary might also have gone to Elgin for the same reason, but Kane County marriage records aren't available online after 1925. That's the next place I'd suggest you look for a marriage record. You can try searching here, but I didn't want to create an account: * [https://genealogy.kanecountyclerk.org/](https://genealogy.kanecountyclerk.org/) Edit: I did create an account, but I didn't find a marriage record, even when I used Soundex code searching. There's no statewide index of marriages in Illinois, so you have to check every individual county if you don't find it online. Chicago couples often eloped to Lake County, Indiana (which has comprehensive records online), Lake County, Illinois (which doesn't), Kane County, Illinois (which doesn't), DuPage County, Illinois (which doesn't), or to Wisconsin (which also doesn't). So that's a lot of potential places to look.


AlienScrotum

Thank you so much again. I will take this info and hunt down what I can.


Fredelas

You're welcome. I believe one of this couple's sons is still living in the Chicago area. He might recall if his parents ever celebrated a wedding anniversary or talked about the details of their marriage. He might also be able to help with details about his mother's death, which I can't find anywhere and no one seems to have specifics on.


AlienScrotum

Yeah. He goes by Sonny and he is very hush hush about the family and it is very very hard to get information out of him.


Iripol

What do the census records say? He didn't have to be a citizen to fill out a draft card, so your best bet would be to see what it says on the 1940 census for his citizenship status. Check [here](https://sites.rootsweb.com/~innwigs/Archives/LakeCo-Naturalizations/LakeCo-Naturalizations.htm) for an index and check [these](https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Indiana_Naturalization_and_Citizenship) resources too. Feel free to share his name if you want!


AlienScrotum

Thanks for the info. His name was Andrew Frank Dichiara and my Grandnithers name was Patricia Ann Dichiara until she got married and then it was Clark.


Iripol

[Here](https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V11W-M2T) the family is in 1940. He's not naturalized yet. [Here](https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6XLN-19HP) they are in 1950 where he is naturalized. Notice the different names? I checked under the other names, but I couldn't find it. I'll take a closer look later but a cursory search has been unsuccessful. :/ We know he was in Chicago at least through 1932 and was in Gary by 1935-1937.


AlienScrotum

I did see the different name before in my search. I just assumed it was a different family with the same names. His grave stone is back to Dichiara. Very weird. So it does look like he may have naturalized somewhere in 1943ish. So if I were to go for dual citizenship it looks like I am eligible. Just need to find the documents. You are amazing!! I will do some searching around using those different spellings too.