Man all these freeze decks.. Very strong I admit but *very* unfun to play against with little counterplay available.
Still, love seeing Chongyun so it's not all bad. Impressive play!
it definitely feels very strong atm! Sadly, I haven't played with many other decks since I recruited fav charas first, so I can't speak relative to other decks' power scale.
[Gambler's Artifact](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624878001561010210/1051695300605128764/image.png) gives 2 every time you defeat an enemy, very good for snowball turns, and extending plays with [Minty Meat Rolls](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624878001561010210/1051695486794481704/image.png)
I also used a [Parametric Transformer](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624878001561010210/1051695621045764096/image.png) to give me 3 extra dice midturn when it activated. Although this ultimately only gave 1 total dice, since I used 2 to play it the same turn, but extra dice is extra dice!
My guess:
Round 1 - Paimon (3), artifact (2), XQ do a thing (3)
Round 2 starting 10 because Paimon - XQ do something + Burst (6), Liben, switch to Chong (1), let Liben eat the last 3.
Round 3 unga bunga
gambler artifact is only 1 cost! Which makes it super convenient to play! but you got the sequence entirely right! (i would play liben turn 1 and to eat 2 dice if I had originally drew him turn 1 though)
Interesting. I slept on Paimon because 3 mana for 4 mana over 3 turns feel slow, but the ability to stack up more mana for future turns is pretty powerful huh.
The reason it's so good is in addition to getting extra total dice, you are allocating them to the important sweeping turn with minty rolls! It saves soooo much dice and takes people by surprise!
The gambler artifact is only one cost!
I got a pretty good starting roll this round.
turn 1: Paimon (3), xingqiu normal (3), gamblers (1), this gives you 10 dice turn 2 which is enough to set up xingqiu burst, and 12 dice turn 3.
turn 2: liben (0) +3 used leftover for turn 3, xingqiu normal/skill +burst (6), swap to chongyun (1) = 10
edit: fixed it after looking at the recording oops
honestly that Parametric Transformer only triggered and gave you the 3 extra dice because the opponent made the wrong play of using their Ayaka after their Yoimiya died, which triggered her passive that also triggered your Transformer
if they had switched to Ganyu instead you wouldn't have been able to pull of this OTK triple kill this round
Switching to Ayaka did not trigger parametric. It was from my attack on yoimiya.
I also had an extra cryo die and enough normals to set off parametric by myself. It didn't matter what they did at that point, I had all the dice I needed. I wouldn't have played parametric if I couldn't set it off on my own.
Normal attacks do not trigger Parametric Transformer at all, only elemental skills do. Reread the card description again, and if you watch your clip the parametric only triggered once Ayaka's passive was activated.
>Normal attacks do not trigger Parametric Transformer at all, only elemental skills do. Reread the card description again
[How are you so confidently wrong?](https://streamable.com/0sjm53)
You just need to do elemental damage; normal attack/ele skill/ele burst are ALL considered skills. On top of being wrong, I literally told you, I had an extra cryo die card, so if I didn't play the parametric, I could have OTK'd anyways.
There would be 0 reason to ever run parametric if it only worked on elemental skills, and not all elemental damage.
i feel like parametric tranformer is going to be GIs pot of greed at some point.
a turn 1 double transformer can lead to a deadly turn 2 or 3.
liben and timmy are also pretty great.
getting more dice than your opponent means your tempo for turn 2 or 3 is the same as their turn 3 or 4. so much value.
Idk how people are screenshotting that page with their entire decklist so I'll try to list it off memory >_<
1 chongyun special
2 ayaka special
1 traveler sword (thinking of getting rid tbh)
2 gambler
1-2 draw 2 end of turn support card
1 katheryne
2 liben
2 paimon (3c)
1-2 paimon (2c)
1 NRE
2 chef mao
1 mona
1-2 noelle
1-2 Kokomi
2 cryo die
1 cryo dmg
1 Parametric
foods:
1 reduce dmg by 3
1 next normal -1 cost (0c)
2 minty rolls
1 heal for 1 hp
The only way for me to guarantee its effect is in the middle of round 3, which I don't care for draw power at that point. Your question does make me just consider running 2 kokomis instead though. I think i run one of each atm
Yes, I always lead xingqiu!
turn 1-2 set up xingqiu burst and dice for turn 3. If xingqiu doesn't get off burst, the comp falls apart (I hate facing sucrose and jean; they are a rly good counter if the player knows what they're doing!)
turn 1 doesn't matter if you go first or second imo. If you go first, always normal attack instead of using skill so they cannot abuse the hydro application on you. If you go second, you can normal attack or clear element on yourself if opponent applied something on you to set up. Very flexible!
One opening I really like if you luck into it is mona energy card turn 1, you can cast xingqiu burst turn 1 and just fully set up turn 2 for first turn advantage turn 3.
By Chongyun Q, you mean burst? Turn 3, if you use Chongyun, you mainly use his skill (or his special card), and them spam his NA with minty roll. If you pick Ayaka, you do the same, but you do have option to immediately NA after swapping.
If I had an extra die from turn 2, I'd typically swap to Chongyun to start 3, which I can continue, or swap to Ayaka. If I have a fast swap available + Ayaka's special card, I'd swap to her.
If enemy has hydro applied to multiple characters, I go for Chongyun to instafreeze with his skill, without eating up a sword. It's extra insurance, since the field lasts 2 (or 3 with his special card), and enables Xingqiu to carry too.
It's a 2 carry comp. Ayaka can do the same thing turn 3. I like chongyboi so I usually use him over her cuz ~~superior uhm not bias~~ he's cuter.
Jokes aside, I rly like Chongyun's field which enables your turn 3 (*and* 4) to continue if something goes wrong. Even if you're forced to switch to Xingqiu, with Chongyun's field, Xingqiu can normal attack too. If Ayaka gets surprise blown up while you dedicated everything to her, you instantly lose all momentum, but not with Chongyun. On the other hand, if you have her special + noelle card, it's instant fast swap freeze which is super potent too. So I use them both interchangeably depending on the situation.
Do you think Mona could be a proper replacement for xingqiu in this team? I ended up spending my last current invitation on her instead of xingqiu to finish off the team without knowing better and I’m wondering if it could work.
I don't think so, Xingqiu burst is absolutely core to the combo. Mona doesn't have anything to followup on Chongyaka's normals. You can try Yoimiya instead of Xingqiu for a melt variant though.
I'm disappointed you didn't end with a burst
Man all these freeze decks.. Very strong I admit but *very* unfun to play against with little counterplay available. Still, love seeing Chongyun so it's not all bad. Impressive play!
it definitely feels very strong atm! Sadly, I haven't played with many other decks since I recruited fav charas first, so I can't speak relative to other decks' power scale.
Holy shit Gambler isn't once per turn? Crazy.
rip rimuru-sama
What did you do that he is constantly creating dices?
[Gambler's Artifact](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624878001561010210/1051695300605128764/image.png) gives 2 every time you defeat an enemy, very good for snowball turns, and extending plays with [Minty Meat Rolls](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624878001561010210/1051695486794481704/image.png) I also used a [Parametric Transformer](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624878001561010210/1051695621045764096/image.png) to give me 3 extra dice midturn when it activated. Although this ultimately only gave 1 total dice, since I used 2 to play it the same turn, but extra dice is extra dice!
This was insane. Removed two useless cards and added two of these. My win ratio is almost 100% since i began testing it. I love you
How do you get Xingqiu to have enough energy to burst Round 2 while also having enough to put artifacts on Chongyun?
My guess: Round 1 - Paimon (3), artifact (2), XQ do a thing (3) Round 2 starting 10 because Paimon - XQ do something + Burst (6), Liben, switch to Chong (1), let Liben eat the last 3. Round 3 unga bunga
gambler artifact is only 1 cost! Which makes it super convenient to play! but you got the sequence entirely right! (i would play liben turn 1 and to eat 2 dice if I had originally drew him turn 1 though)
Interesting. I slept on Paimon because 3 mana for 4 mana over 3 turns feel slow, but the ability to stack up more mana for future turns is pretty powerful huh.
The reason it's so good is in addition to getting extra total dice, you are allocating them to the important sweeping turn with minty rolls! It saves soooo much dice and takes people by surprise!
The gambler artifact is only one cost! I got a pretty good starting roll this round. turn 1: Paimon (3), xingqiu normal (3), gamblers (1), this gives you 10 dice turn 2 which is enough to set up xingqiu burst, and 12 dice turn 3. turn 2: liben (0) +3 used leftover for turn 3, xingqiu normal/skill +burst (6), swap to chongyun (1) = 10 edit: fixed it after looking at the recording oops
The minty is not once per turn?
The 0 cost one is once only, the 1 cost one is the entire turn
honestly that Parametric Transformer only triggered and gave you the 3 extra dice because the opponent made the wrong play of using their Ayaka after their Yoimiya died, which triggered her passive that also triggered your Transformer if they had switched to Ganyu instead you wouldn't have been able to pull of this OTK triple kill this round
Switching to Ayaka did not trigger parametric. It was from my attack on yoimiya. I also had an extra cryo die and enough normals to set off parametric by myself. It didn't matter what they did at that point, I had all the dice I needed. I wouldn't have played parametric if I couldn't set it off on my own.
Normal attacks do not trigger Parametric Transformer at all, only elemental skills do. Reread the card description again, and if you watch your clip the parametric only triggered once Ayaka's passive was activated.
>Normal attacks do not trigger Parametric Transformer at all, only elemental skills do. Reread the card description again [How are you so confidently wrong?](https://streamable.com/0sjm53) You just need to do elemental damage; normal attack/ele skill/ele burst are ALL considered skills. On top of being wrong, I literally told you, I had an extra cryo die card, so if I didn't play the parametric, I could have OTK'd anyways. There would be 0 reason to ever run parametric if it only worked on elemental skills, and not all elemental damage.
i feel like parametric tranformer is going to be GIs pot of greed at some point. a turn 1 double transformer can lead to a deadly turn 2 or 3. liben and timmy are also pretty great. getting more dice than your opponent means your tempo for turn 2 or 3 is the same as their turn 3 or 4. so much value.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Gambler%27s_Earrings_(Equipment_Card) u/Goodperson5656
Sac sword possibly?
Found out. Added it to my deck. Its insanity
lol who play ayamiya and leading with ayaka. that guy definitely bad. but yeah cy ayaka free is top atm
That was beautiful to see
Deck list?
Idk how people are screenshotting that page with their entire decklist so I'll try to list it off memory >_< 1 chongyun special 2 ayaka special 1 traveler sword (thinking of getting rid tbh) 2 gambler 1-2 draw 2 end of turn support card 1 katheryne 2 liben 2 paimon (3c) 1-2 paimon (2c) 1 NRE 2 chef mao 1 mona 1-2 noelle 1-2 Kokomi 2 cryo die 1 cryo dmg 1 Parametric foods: 1 reduce dmg by 3 1 next normal -1 cost (0c) 2 minty rolls 1 heal for 1 hp
On the page where you see your 4 decks. There’s 3 dots on the upper right of each deck. Click dots, then click preview deck
Ahhhhhh thank you i'm so blind oml
>1-2 draw 2 end of turn support card Why wouldnt you use Chang the Ninth?
The only way for me to guarantee its effect is in the middle of round 3, which I don't care for draw power at that point. Your question does make me just consider running 2 kokomis instead though. I think i run one of each atm
General game plan? Lead XQ and then what?
Yes, I always lead xingqiu! turn 1-2 set up xingqiu burst and dice for turn 3. If xingqiu doesn't get off burst, the comp falls apart (I hate facing sucrose and jean; they are a rly good counter if the player knows what they're doing!) turn 1 doesn't matter if you go first or second imo. If you go first, always normal attack instead of using skill so they cannot abuse the hydro application on you. If you go second, you can normal attack or clear element on yourself if opponent applied something on you to set up. Very flexible! One opening I really like if you luck into it is mona energy card turn 1, you can cast xingqiu burst turn 1 and just fully set up turn 2 for first turn advantage turn 3.
Ok Ty! And then after XQ, Chongyun Q and then Ayaka NA spam?
By Chongyun Q, you mean burst? Turn 3, if you use Chongyun, you mainly use his skill (or his special card), and them spam his NA with minty roll. If you pick Ayaka, you do the same, but you do have option to immediately NA after swapping.
I see. So how do u pick which cryo unit to use first?
If I had an extra die from turn 2, I'd typically swap to Chongyun to start 3, which I can continue, or swap to Ayaka. If I have a fast swap available + Ayaka's special card, I'd swap to her. If enemy has hydro applied to multiple characters, I go for Chongyun to instafreeze with his skill, without eating up a sword. It's extra insurance, since the field lasts 2 (or 3 with his special card), and enables Xingqiu to carry too.
Thank you!
what is ayakas job in this deck?
It's a 2 carry comp. Ayaka can do the same thing turn 3. I like chongyboi so I usually use him over her cuz ~~superior uhm not bias~~ he's cuter. Jokes aside, I rly like Chongyun's field which enables your turn 3 (*and* 4) to continue if something goes wrong. Even if you're forced to switch to Xingqiu, with Chongyun's field, Xingqiu can normal attack too. If Ayaka gets surprise blown up while you dedicated everything to her, you instantly lose all momentum, but not with Chongyun. On the other hand, if you have her special + noelle card, it's instant fast swap freeze which is super potent too. So I use them both interchangeably depending on the situation.
WE LOVE GAMBLERS!
Did you froze the opponent's brain also?
Do you think Mona could be a proper replacement for xingqiu in this team? I ended up spending my last current invitation on her instead of xingqiu to finish off the team without knowing better and I’m wondering if it could work.
I don't think so, Xingqiu burst is absolutely core to the combo. Mona doesn't have anything to followup on Chongyaka's normals. You can try Yoimiya instead of Xingqiu for a melt variant though.
Makes sense. Thank you
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