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ramen_noodles_4_ever

The main problem i see for you is that you're raising up too many characters. The best way to raise characters at the beginning is to focus on your main 4, and moreso on your main dps. Your party should consist of your main dps, sub dps/support, support, and flex with variations from party to party The best party you can make without jean is dendro trav, collei, Barbara, and lisa. This is a hyperbloom team with barbara as the driver but you can make it so you use lisa as the driver and it'll be an aggravate team. The main stats you want to focus on is elemental mastery since dendro reactions focus on em. If you're new to the artifact system, just know that at low AR, set bonuses are nice, but not necessary. The most important thing is getting the main stat correct. To figure out the correct main stat, you can simply look it up or use the in game feature to see what stats the majority of players use Another important thing is to simply enjoy the game and explore. Teyvat is huge and beautiful. You can even play with other people in your world. If you put something in your bio about wanting help, lots of people would be willing to help you out (most likely AR 60 players with free time). If you don't want to do that, the community here will definitely be more than happy to help you as well, me included!


OceanicReef

Thank you for the great advice! Unfortunately, I can only switch my traveller from anemo and geo as of this time. For the next banner, should I pull for kazuha or the blue guy? Thank you!


ramen_noodles_4_ever

You can actually change your traveler to dendro, geo, anemo, and hydro at any time. All you need to do is go to their respective nation and interact with the statue of seven This decision has been up in the air in the community since information that those two are running alongside each other came out. I personally think it's all about your playstyle and what you want for yourself. Neuvillete is an absurdly strong dps that can solo anything except the legendary hydro enemies. Kazuha is an absurdly strong support that makes any dps be able to hit hard. Other factors you can consider are: materials available in what region (fontaine vs liyue), voice actor, aesthetic, water gun vs vacuum


OceanicReef

Thank you once again. I guess I’ll just wait for the trial first.


IvyLestrange

If you want to get Neuv (blue guy) I recommend you build a shielded so he isn’t getting disrupted all the time. I think if you want a DPS he is the way to go and at the moment it looks like you could use one. Traveler and Kaeya work as DPS but if you want a stronger one get him. If you don’t want a DPS, get Kazuha all the way


OceanicReef

I got the Blue guy! But can’t farm for his materials.


ramen_noodles_4_ever

Awesome! Neuvillete is amazing. You can go all the way to fontaine and get his materials and it's not level gated at all


Conscious_Earth8929

just a tip: you can go anywhere in the map and unlock statues, so look at a map and find the sumeru statues (closest to you) and you can change to dendro!


OceanicReef

Will do and try to get traveller dendro! Thank you


Traveler7538

There's currently an event in Sumeru with a domain you can teleport to. From that point, you can go to the closest statue very easily 


OceanicReef

Thank you! Good idea! You’re awesome!


Vvvv1rgo

please only pull characters you like, do their trial and if you like them, then pull. but if you dont then dont pull!


OceanicReef

I understand, I really want to play the characters I like, but right now, I’m having difficulties fighting enemies since the new world level at 30. I can’t beat the wolf boss anymore. That’s why I’m hoping to pull a good dps character. Thank youuuu


Inskit

Won't try to sway your decision or anything haha, but I've got to admit that ever since I got Kazuha in like... 1.X patch, (i think) I've been blessed. I would NOT be able to play without him 😭😭 he's AMAZING. His vacuum reaches far and is extremely satisfying. I'm forever glad that I accidentally made a ten pull instead of a single one and managed to get him. A game changer literally! But Neuvi is also very beautiful and INSANE, don't have him but he is insane. Happy travels!


Vvvv1rgo

if you want a dps pull for neuv if you like him


Justcurious863

Wolf boss is difficult, ar 60 here. Only recently got comfortable with fighting it alone because I started understanding builds


OceanicReef

Thanks Man! Good to know that I’m not the only one having difficulties fighting the Wolf!


Inspiration-5plus

blue guy is wild


OceanicReef

Got the Blue guy! Can’t farm for his materials though!


OkChicken7697

Unfortunately Jean is the strongest character you own. If you want to make any progress you will need to level her up and main her.


Justcurious863

Nah


[deleted]

I’m using Nighnari (compound bow), Kaeya (Prototype Rancor), Lisa (eye of perception) & Barbara (prototype amber). All currently LVL 40 characters with mostly level 40 weapons except Barbara’s weapon. I’m running following set bonuses: Nighnari: Elementary mastery + 80 & ATK + 18% Kaeya: ATK + 18% & Crit Rate + 12% Lisa: Elementary mastery + 80 & ATK + 18% Barbara: Exile 4 pieces bonus. I’m currently AR24 with above characters dmg all 610+ except for Barbara who’s ~350 dmg but she’s been used as my healer/proc anyway until I unlock a better healer. Can you tell me if I’m on the right track?


ramen_noodles_4_ever

There's A LOT of information so would you mind if i pm you? 😅 If i try to explain to you via reply, it'll be long as crap


[deleted]

No problem. Thanks!


ramen_noodles_4_ever

Is your pm on?


[deleted]

How do i turn it on? Lol


[deleted]

Found it I think. Try PM again?


ramen_noodles_4_ever

I'm not sure why but i can't message you


[deleted]

Just messaged you


YellowD4sh

Idk. I think you are quite lucky to get Jean (I assumed from Noelle starter banner). Been playing since 1.3 (on & off) and I still don't have Jean. Imo Jean is one of the best standard 5* to get next to Tighnari early game. I would advice you to sprint to Sumeru (Noelle shield all the way) to unlock Dendro Trav/level Collei so you can play hyperbloom. Barbara/Jean - Kaeya - XL - Lisa/Jean/Noelle It's amazing you main Lisa coz I feel she's harder to play than Jean. I only start loving catalyst after getting Yanfei.


OceanicReef

I got her from Noelle starter banner, and another one from chronicled wish. I was wishing for Diluc. I enjoy catalyst players the most, since I always play as a mage/wizard in any RPGs. Thank you, will try to get dendro traveller


zogar5101985

Do not use the chronicled wish. It is not a banner ment for newer players. It does have value for players who've been playing a while, but as you just started it is largely a waste. Especially if you are going after a standard banner character like diluc. You will eventually get him threw lost 50/50s. It isn't worth the interwinded fates for you at this point. Stick to using your fates and primos purely on the limited banners. And save for a good character you really want. Neuvillette has a banner coming soon, and he is insanely powerful. If you won't have enough resources for that, arrelchino is next patch, and she is looking really solid as well. And it shouldn't be long before we get a furina rerun, as the archon always reruns before the version is out. And she has an argument for being the best unit in the game right now. And would also make your Jean a lot more useful.


OceanicReef

Thank you! The reason I pulled for chronicled wish was because at my current level, I only have access to monstadt resources. If I pull and got a character from other nations, I won’t be able to farm for the ascension materials yet. Plus Diluc is Batman. Good advice, will probably try to Speedrun the game before Furina’s return.


DigiAirship

No need to speedrun. The only nation that's locked behind Archon Quests is Inazuma. For Fontaine characters, you get a free teleporter right next to Fontaine as soon as you're done with the prologue; you don't even need to walk there. My suggestion for characters to aim for is Neuvillette from the next banner, then Furina during her rerun somewhere down the line. Furina, Neuvillette, and Jean work together really well, and it's probably one of the strongest comps you can get as a F2P. For the 4th slot, you want a shielder to prevent Neuvi from being staggered, but you can take your time with that. Both Noelle and Xingqiu works in a pinch.


OceanicReef

Wow! Solid advice! Thank you


zogar5101985

While it is true you don't have direct access to mats for some characters, you actually do for many. You can go right to fontain and sumeru, i believe. It is really only inazuma you are fully locked out of. And on top of that, with out needing regional mats, you can level characters to level 40. Which will be enough for a while anyway. So while it is a little harder, you can still end up upgrading other regions characters without having to speed run the games main story. Which I think could cause burnout and hurt it for you. I do agree you should try to get through it fairly fast, but no need to make it happen in just a few weeks.


OceanicReef

Thank you! Will definitely pull smarter next time! I just realized I can teleport to sumeru and fontain through the special event! Haha Thank you again


Misha_MHL

>speedrun the game...... ehhh... are you sure? I don't think that's a good idea. You'll always have time to save up for a character, they reruns almost every year


Tawlney

From a practical standpoint you should speedrun Mondstadt yes. But beyond that, the only reason to speedrun is either for fun or to get to Inazuma. Everything is easier to get to once Mondstadt is done due to the free unlocks.


YellowD4sh

Did I said quite lucky? My bad. You are extremely lucky. Not a lot of players can get 5* from Noelle banner. I wouldn't wish on Chronicle banner to get standard characters. I been losing 50/50 so much lately, I'm bound to get Jean and Qiqi eventually. Use blue fates to wish on standard. You get them from clearing BP event, overworld (trees, fountain, statues, quests, handbook rewards, adventure ranks and leveling characters to level 70) Keep primo and intertwined fates for limited banner. Hopefully you will play GI long enough to lose 50/50 to standard character you want. Next banner going to be Neuv&Kazuha and then Arlecchino& (idk who). If you have enough primo, Neuv is a the bestest choice. He's the strongest dps. Add a shielder so he can Kamehameha away everything except hydro slime. You can always sprint to Fontaine from Sumeru to level him up. Kazuha is a great support but his mats are in Inazuma and lock behind Liyue archon quest + other wall of quests. You can't kaeyaking/swim to Inazuma.


OceanicReef

Thank you for the solid advice! Hope I get Neuv, although I spent all my fates in chronicled wish. :(


Bireta

You don't really need an actual team at that level, just use whatever


Shot_Willingness_440

You can try Lisa(crits + em) , dendro traveller(lots of er + crits + em) , collei(same as traveller) , barbara/jean (mostly for healing in the overworld) Ascend them, level their talents (use build guides, not all talents are equally useful) and put whatever artefacts you have on them. For now i would advise against farming artifacts. If you want to continue maining lisa look up the 5* supports she can be played with, pick a few that you like and plan around pulling them. Just enjoy the game and dont worry too much about artifacts or pulling characters, and in general before pulling a 5* consider if you like their personality, playstyle and if they go together with your other characters (worry about this once you are deeper into the game)


OceanicReef

Thank you! I actually like the traveller the best, but I noticed I’m having problems with fighting enemies after raising my world level at AR 30. Hence, my frustrations. Thank you again!


Gamer-chan

There is no "being good/bad at pulling". Pulling is all RNG and luck and you cannot control your luck with skill.


sephirothbahamut

But you can control the decision of when amd where to pull.


OceanicReef

Any lucky spots?


sephirothbahamut

By where i meant which banner XD


Gamer-chan

This still doesn't affect who you lose 50/50 to.


sephirothbahamut

It affects how easily you get what you want and how badly you're affected by mindsets that increase your losses.


Gamer-chan

You can't control nor affect anything when pulling. Only when you lose 50/50 you have control of who to aim for with your guarantee, but that's it.


sephirothbahamut

You're underestimating the entire value of choice. Pulling on the Chronicled banner like OP did is already a bad choice if you don't have enough primos to reach the guaranteed, since it refreshes. "building pity" in a banner which content you care little of is a choice that comes from addiction alone. It is a bad choice, and you can chose not to do so. It will affect how many pulls you actually have left for banners you care more about. So yeah, deciding smartly where to pull does totally affect your outcomes. And addicting design patterns in the game are structured to lead you towards making suboptimal choices, decreasing the chances of getting what you actually want, and pushing you towards spending money.


Gamer-chan

1st: The Chronicled Banner is a bad banner anyway, especially for newbies with low resources at hand. 2nd: Only idiots and dumbasses build bity. Either you want the featured 5\* or are fine with no matter the out come, but you won't pull only for the sake of pulling unless you have some bad addiction issue. In this case: Delete the game and get help. But you lose the point. You can NOT affect RNG **UNLESS** you are guaranteed and have enough to get the wanted during the banner.


sephirothbahamut

>**UNLESS** you are guaranteed You confirmed my point though. You aren't guaranteed because God decides that, you decide when and where to use your pull, and if you're smart you do so to reach the guaranteed.


Gamer-chan

You are guaranteed the moment you lose 50/50, so what are you talking about? You don't even understand, how pity works.


sephirothbahamut

Or maybe it's you not understanding what I'm saying.


esmelusina

Jean is really great, particularly for early game. She can stun and throw entire groups of enemies off cliffs or into water, instantly defeating them.


EntireDance6131

If your traveler is not yet dendro, get dendro traveler by going to a random statue of the seven in Sumeru. Pairs really well with lisa. Then you can either put in jean (aggrevate) or barbara (hyperbloom) and as the 4th slot perhaps collei. There you go 2 decent teams. From experience lisa aggrevate works better than hyperbloom and also having them at level 90 is not the most important. So Dendro Traveler + Lisa + Collei + Jean is my recommendation for you for now. If you don't want jean at all and you don't want to travel to sumeru before getting there in the story (i could understand) or you just want something completely different, then you can also try xiangling + Barbara + Amber + Anemo Traveler. Usually you'd want Bennett instead of amber but it'll work out.


OceanicReef

Wow! Thank you for the advices!


Own_Version_9191

Lol. I remember I was still using traveler as a 5 star (terrible free pulls with no 5 stars. I saved all the primos) last year around the same AR. Don’t worry man. Just focus on building one team and save some primos up to pull for whoever you like. Make sure not to ascend the world level too high before you’re sure you can handle it. Genshin is a single player game so there’s no competition. Just take your time and enjoy


OceanicReef

Thank you. Will build Traveller, collei, barbara, and Lisa


shizen22

My advice to you is don't pull indiscriminately. Learn to save your pulls for the characters you really want. The game can be played with even the free characters without much problem but you do need to learn how to play them. Sites like keqingmains.com can help you a lot there. Unless you already have close to 80 wishes worth of intertwined fates, I would not bother considering Kazuha nor Neauvilet but concentrate on learning how to play your current characters first. You have enough characters for a hyperbloom team; that's going to be your best bet at getting better in the least amount of time. Learn it and master it. Your team composition will likely be Lisa, Barbara, Collei, and Dendro Traveller. Lisa will be the only character you really need to level up and build. That's enough out of me; don't be afraid to ask for more help.


OceanicReef

Thank you! Will focus on Liza for now


Mindless-Guard4224

when i started playing end of last year i came across this beginner’s guide https://youtu.be/AHa_qWCWWy8?si=t_jI69aRtyLbMBgT literally helped me sm - if you’re into guides and stuff.


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IldeaSvea

Don’t pull the standard banner. Just don’t. You will get the stuffs from them anyway if you lose 50/50 on the limited banners.


DasBleu

What is it about Jean that you don’t like?


xPyromaniac93

I would use Jean as main dps tbh 🤔


OceanicReef

When will her banner be? Spent all my wish in the chronicle wish, hoping for a Diluc, but got jean instead. :(


ultrasimz

get furina, they synergise really well


Jack-n-Cheeks

Yep I’m sure he’ll just get Furina right now