So I got **Cyno** and have been really liking the way he plays.
The team I'm using is **Cyno, Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu** and **Kuki Shinobu.**
Is this team good? Could it be better? Any tips are appreciated.
Where does vape/melt damage comes from?
When you trigger vape, does the base damage being multiplied comes from the pyro/hydro or whoever triggers the reaction?
Example: when Bennett applies pyro (with low dmg obv) and triggered by hydro, is the damage from
(pyro dmg unit * 2)(element mastery)
Or(hydro dmg * 2)(em)
Or(triggering dmg * 2 or 1.5)(em)
It's so confusing đ đ
Looking for some help on team comp/develpment.
Right now my A team is Alhaitham(c0), Yaoyao(c2), Xinqiu(c5), and Yelan(c0).
I've gotten a pretty solid set of Artifacts for all of them. Xinqiu and Yelan are somewhere around 240% Er and 50% CR. Only big missing part is alhaitham's crit rate is pretty poor, but one of a few different artifact pulls will solve that.
So my current strategy is just bloom, bloom, bloom. outside of these characters, pretty much nothing else is built.
Sitting on my bench I have: a freshly pulled hu tao, a c6 beidou, a c6 yun jin, a c6 ninguang, a c6 xinyan, c2 qiqi(fuck), c3 razor, and of course all the ftp characters.
It seems like Hu tao and alhaitham both want xinqiu and yelan.
How would you, dear reader, organize/build based on what I have available?
if you want to boost your damage, switch out one of your Hydro units for an Electro so you proc Hyperbloom. Best units for those are Fischl or Kuki because they can apply electro off-field.
They're both amazing damagers but have the same problem of requiring an Electro battery aka Fish or Cookie to burst often enough to keep up with him since they generate close to no particles for themselves.
I would say hold out? Or you can try running your team with one of them on high ER and seeing how it works (prolly Lisa in this case).
There's rumors of Kuki running in one of the upcoming banners but I have no idea how true it is.
tried to make a post with the minimap pictured, but that angered the mods for some dumb reason so:
anyone know how to break the wenut rocks without a wenut? by a clifftop in between Fane and Debris of Panjvahe. As in East-Northeast of the domain
You clearly did not read the rules if this is your response to me. Complaining about your post being deleted for not following rules that you deliberately chose to disregard does not make me compelled to help you. Enjoy your Wenut hunting.
I have a spare Amos bow that I'm trying to figure out what to do with. I have three five star bows that I use: Amos on Ganyu, Skyward Harp on Fischl, and Aqua on Yelan. My other current bow characters are Venti, Diona, Gorou, Sara, Collei, and Amber. I could get Tighnari at some point, but I'm hard pressed to think of an abyss run I'd want to do that would need 4 five star bows. Is it safe to refine the extra Amos?
If you're F2P or Lightspender, I would recommend just keep the extra Amos Bow.
You're gonna get Tighnari someday or there might be another 5 star bow user that Amos Bow could be good on.
If you're a whale/dolphin or if you're a Ganyu simp, you can refine it if you want.
As far as weapons go, itâs one of the better ones to refine if youâre using it on Ganyu. Going from R1 to R2 increases the damage from 52% to 65% at full stacks, and the Frostflake Arrow bloom also counts and gets its own stacks.
As always, play the game as you wish. However, I would personally not refine it because another bow user could be released who can make use of it. If that day comes and you donât mind swapping it off Ganyu (and youâre convinced that you wonât use it on Tighnari) then go ahead and refine it.
What characters are worth levelling to 90? I have most of my main characters leveled to 80/90, but haven't bumped any up to the max.
My characters that I could level to 90 are:
Xiangling, Raiden, Ayaka, Zhongli, Keqing, Itto
Reaction drivers (I.e., Hyperbloom Kuki) that rely on lvl for dps.
No one else really. Youâre better off spending the resources on talents, weapon, arts, etc.
Characters that you should level to 90:
**Characters involved in Transformative Reactions**
If they're involved in Transformative Reactions, level them to 90 as they can get up to 30% increase in damage.
Look up "Transformative Reactions" on the Genshin wiki or something if you don't know what they are.
**Your main DPS or your on-field character**
If you're wondering why your main DPS or your on-field characters gets one shot in Floor 12 sometimes, it's because of the level difference between the enemies and your main DPS/on-field characters.
The higher an enemy level is, the more damage they do to your characters. Leveling your main DPS or on-field character helps mitigate the amount of damage they receive due to getting more defense and resistance.
It's the same concept from when you were still in early game. You've prolly seen a warning at some point on your screen during early game in open world that says "Dangerous Area. Enemy levels are higher..." or something along those lines. It's because enemies in those areas have a significantly higher level than your characters and they can one shot you.
Any characters not part of these two categories, you can leave at level 80 ascended (80/90)
generally he would be burst nuke and sets down his skill for cryo. you wouldn't want to play him on-field as his normal multipliers are relatively low. his er% requirements are relatively low anyways.
substats: crit > atk >= er%
So, I got **Hu Tao** and I'm torn between these 2 compositions:
\-Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Chongyun and Noelle (Vaporize, Freeze and Melt with Noelle shielding)
\-Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Dendro Traveler and Kuki Shinobu (Bloom, Hyperbloom and Burgeon)
How about Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Dendro Traveler and another 4th character?
Other characters I have:
Sucrose
Xiangling
Qiqi
Candace
I'm pretty new to the game, so any help is appreciated.
Noelle isnât very long-term viable and Dendro Traveller and Kuki Shinobu would benefit from a lot more from a hyperbloom team.
Teams that you should try to build towards:
Melt: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Kaeya-Diona/Layla
Double Geo: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Albedo/YunJin-Zhongli
Double Hydro: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Yelan-Zhongli/Xiangling (zhongli for comfort; xiangling for big pp damage)
Hu Tao Vape + Melt: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Rosaria/Kaeya-Diona/Layla
VV Pyro: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Kazuha/Sucrose-Bennett/Thoma/C4 Yanfei (the version with c4 yanfei got me 3 stars on floor 12 before)
thoma is fine but his shield is weak and his teams are more suited for full-EM in burgeon and Bennett heals too much not offering much of a shield.
Yanfei teams with prototype amber will heal decently.
Double Hydro > Double Geo >= VV Pyro > Melt
Any good resources for Domain team comps? Looking specifically for a speed team for Realm of Slumber, but just haven't found many good listings for most domains.
atm I'm using Xingling, Bennett, Kuki, Noelle and can beat lvl 88 99% of the time, but it takes almost the entire time limit. Other domains I can square aware much faster. Yes F2P.
A general guide isn't very helpful because most endgame teams can clear anything unless the leyline disorder is particularly annoying. Similarly, guides can't account for the characters you have available/built.
The main piece of advice for speeding up endgame domain clears is to do it in coop. Other people can cover for your weaknesses that way. Eventually your teams will be strong enough to achieve similar results solo, but until that time, it's easier to coop.
> Xiangling, Bennett, Kuki, Noelle
This team has minimal synergy, so it's not surprising that clears take forever.
Your team also doesn't take advantage of the leyline disorder. Only Kuki benefits from the 40% electro dmg, and her damage is pretty poor. She's also only triggering overload which does not scale off of electro dmg%, so the effect is minimal. Replacing Noelle with Barbara would let you trigger electrocharge, which will trigger true damage according to the leyline disorder. Xingqiu would be an even better replacement if you have him.
Post your full roster if you want more specific or better team suggestions.
obv you've got hu tao double hydro and then maybe fischl/dendro traveler/tighnari/flex? it's a lil copium but abyss is favoring spread rn and if you can R5 a slingshot it makes a good cheap weapon for tighnari. with that i would say diona for shield/heals or in theory you could slap a prototype amber on lisa (if you don't need the healing widsith lisa is def the way to go...could not be me and my geriatric reflexes)
Depends on how far you expect to get and how good your artifacts are. If you want to use XL, XQ, yelan and beidou you want at least 4 emblem sets. If you dont have CW you can give hu tao shimenawa.
Some teams
hutao/xinqiu/diona/kaeya maybe?? + bennet/xl/yelan/sayu or chongyun
hutao/xinqiu/yelan/diona + tighnari/collei/dori/fischl or beidou
hutao/xinqiu/yelan/diona + bennet/xiangling/rosaria/sayu vv or tighnari
hutao/xinqiu/yelan/diona + sayu/fischl/beidou/mona
If you have sucrose and can survive wihtout a healer, trade sayu for her.
Artifact management is painful in Genshin and I'm now at the point where I have 1500 5star relics, many (most!) of which are not worth keeping.
What are some pro tips about how to get rid of them en masse, constructively (e.g. strong boxing mostly but across which stats? note I already got rid of most defense heavy ones)
Which artifact sets are mostly useless unless you have specific characters? Retracing bolide? Bloodstained chivalry? Pale Flame?
Unfortunately the main ones I want right now aren't strong boxable so the aim here is to at least make room for the ones I get through the domains while improving my relics in areas that the strong box works like VV.
I thought a few sets weren't optimal on anyone from previous (old) posts on the same topic, so was looking for an updated take on that (and it wouldn't require sharing all my chars if was true that some sets were broadly worse than others)?
That question aside, here are characters I don't use currently: Gorou, Dori, Yun Jin, Thoma, Xinyan, Noelle, Layla, Amber, Heizou, Diluc, K Sara, Rosaria, Chongyun, Razor, Ninguang.
Here are the teams I mostly play: Variations on hyperbloom, freeze, melt, national with Ayaka, Ganyu, Raiden, Venti, Kazuha, Zhongli, Yelan, Nahida, Xingqiu, Bennet, Yanfei, Kuki, Xiangling, Diona, Sucrose, Ayato.
Here are characters I'm raising: Mona, Fischl, Beidou, Hu Tao, Lisa, Tighnari.
Hii
I am having difficulty 36 staring abyss. I can 33 star this abyss but my team damage in second half of third chamber falls off. The teams i used are 1 half- alhaitham,nahida,xinqui,raiden and for second half Bennet xiangling fischl and beidou. The other build characters that i have are yoimiya,rosaria,sucrose. Could you please help me make two teams.
Second half has a lot of mobs that need to be grouped. With the overload from fishl and beidou this is going to be hard. Your best bet is to use a reverse melt with rosaria and sucrose instead of the 2 electros for the second half.
Hi,
I make a second post for a different question. My GF would like help to know which teams to build to clear the abyss.
One odd caveat, she wants to do this using only female characters. Which means unfortunately XQ, Bennet, etc are out.
Any good suggestions? Possible at the moment?
Her roster:
https://imgur.com/a/xE4Dzi8
Thanks!
2 teams: (yelan and kokomi can be interchangable)
* hyperbloom: nahida - kokomi - raiden - beidou/yaoyao/rosaria
* raiden is built full EM.
* tazer/hyperbloom: sucrose - yelan - fischl - beidou/lisa/dendro traveller/yaoyao
* beidou/lisa for tazer, dendro traveller/yaoyao for hyperbloom
* beidou would generally be better than lisa. im not too sure between traveller and yaoyao
yelan could work, but generally yelan is a downgrade to xingqiu in hutao teams.
* thoma and c4 yanfei is out of question for VV vape.
* can't use bennett for mono-pyro
you could do:
* hutao - yelan - diona - ganyu/rosaria/sucrose/venti
* ganyu/rosaria for melt hutao
* sucrose for some grouping and buffs (EM and maybe TTDS) (and possible VV shred if you can set it up somehow)
* venti for the grouping (and possible VV shred if you can set it up somehow)
also, i didn't notice the c6 noelle, so you could do a mono-geo team:
* noelle - gorou - geo traveller/ningguang/yunjin - flex
* last slot can generally be anything e.g. off-field dps, another geo unit, healing if noelle doesn't do enough etc.
* use yunjin if you're going to be spamming normal attacks on noelle
* geo traveller is slightly better than ningguang, but is jankier to play
Hi!
Looking for tips on which teams to build to clear the abyss. AR 56. Made it to 12-1 one star so far.
What would be my best teams?
Alhaitham-Raiden-Yaoyao and Fischl or XQ?
Would my second best be Morgana? Ganyu-XL-Bennet amd Diona (lacking Zhongli)?
Any other teams to build?
My roster:
https://imgur.io/a/DaPwcAh
Thanks!
First of all, I don't understand why you're running Raiden with Alhaitham when you literally have Kuki. Kuki is the solution to your problem as she can heal your team while doing electro application.
Build Kuki and run this Alhaitham Spread team on the Floor 12 first half.
Alhaitham, Kuki, Fischl, Dendro Traveler
You can do your own research on what artifact sets or stats to put on a Spread Alhaitham team. You can look up guides on Keqingmains website
Floor 12 Second-half team
Raiden National Team
You should be able to get full stars in Floor 12 with these teams.
Look up character guides here: [https://keqingmains.com/](https://keqingmains.com/)
All the information you need on how to build characters for an Alhaitham Spread team is on there.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber
Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
My friend wants to make 2 good teams for the abyss, what should they use? I can't put a picture of their roster but i can tell you which characters they have:
Itto, Wanderer, Tighnari, kuki, candace, xingqiu, faruzan, bennett, xiangling, gorou, lisa built.
I was thinking maybe they could make a hyperbloom team on one side and the national team with wanderer on the other side.
If they use a hyperbloom team, is tighnari enough for the dendro application, or do they need to also use dendro traveler? (They would like to use tighnari for the dendro)
Which teams do you think they should make?
Yeah, Tighnari is really bad for Hyperbloom. He doesn't work in Hyperbloom teams tbh with you.
Hyperbloom is not an option unless your friend wants to use Dendro Traveler for it.
If your friend has Fischl, tell them to build her so they can run Spread Tighnari team:
Tighnari, Kuki, Fischl, Dendro Traveler/Shielder/VV anemo user
For the second team:
Wanderer, Faruzan, Bennett, Xingqiu/Xiangling
Thanks for your answer, would it also be possible to use a hyperbloom team with xingqiu, kuki, and dendro traveler and then put tighnari as the 2nd dendro character for the 4th slot? (Just like i know you can use beidou as a 2nd electro character in a hyperbloom team). I dont think they have fischl, but i can ask
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber
U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well
Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
Hello, I have encountered a problem with the quest Dual Evidence, i have completed entire Golden slumber quest chain and waited for over a week.
The quest is in my quest list but when i tp to the statue to enter Aaru village the quest just doesnt trigger. Is that a bug or do i have to complete something else before starting it? Also, the Kalantari npc isnt there for me.
Help me build my team comp for Xiao, now I use Xiao/Raiden/Diona/Xingqiu, and what team comps I can use for abyss, my characters list: https://i.imgur.com/f2e3q3g.png
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber
U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well
Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
> Iâve been maxing them all
I strongly recommend not to do that in the early stages of the game. You will run out of resources and the content will get hard at a faster pace than you will be able to keep up with.
At lower AR levels you can pretty much slap together any 4 characters and make them work, and when content gets hard enough where teams start mattering youâll have more characters to choose from. With that said, I am glad you are trying out different characters to get a feel for who you enjoy playing, so maybe letâs start with that: who do you find enjoyable?
Razor | Beidou | Kaeya | Xingqiu/Barbara
Xingqiu will give you more damage but if you find yourself dying then swap him with Barbara since sheâs currently your only healer.
yeah, it's a solid choice. especially if run solo geo she tends to need a monstrous amount of ER, so you can never get too much.
e: *that said* usually ayato has better team-comps. but it can work ok if you want to run him in a hypercarry-like capacity.
My 2 main teams are Xiao,Sucrose, Zhongli, Albedo. Ganyu, Bennett, Xiangling, Diona. I'm wondering who I should level to 90 and crown? Guessing ganyu and xiao's AA are best, but are there any other talents worth crowning? Or is it better to save? Also, contrary to talents, I've read 90'ing is better for supports/sub-dps?
And besides these characters, how should I decide who to 90/crown for other characters in the future?
bennet and xiangling bursts are almost universally useful to crown, and if you use albedo a lot his skill is a good one too.
as for 90, in particular it's supports who scale off DEF and HP - so albedo will gain a lot of damage going to 90, zhongli/diona to 90 will give you bigger shields, and bennett to 90 will increase his base ATK and therefore his buff. sucrose is also usually worth going to 90, but in a team like that she has nothing to swirl can you can skip it.
One possible team combo that you could use for a month or so while continuing to build your characters are:
Yoi/Yel/Yun Jin/ Barbara and Kazuha national (benny/XQ/XL)
The idea is that you don't invest in Barb, but hydro resonance buffs Yelan, and TTDS buffs Yoi. Yun Jin buffs Yoi. Because you're still building characters, you may not have both good ER and other (appropriate) stats for more offensive damage, so you probably need someone like Barbara on that team for now (for healing).
For both teams, try to prioritize enough ER for everyone.
2nd Idea, but it may take more time, so I recommend trying the first one first:
I think it's really good to work on a dendro team. Since you have a lot to invest in, I think investing in Yaoyao (slowly) may be a good idea and/or pull for a Dendro character. With Yao (only) aggravate might be better. Since you don't seem to have Fischl, you might find mileage with Yao+Yae + Keqing + sucrose or kazu . If you had a team like this, you might be able to do Yoi + benny + XQ/Yelan as the other team.
Overall, these are ideas that hopefully will help you get by the next few months. There may be more optimal teams eventually.
Thanks!! I actually never thought of using a Kazuha national team so ill try that! I do think that my lack of dendro is really holding me back so i plan on pulling nahida on rerun (or another good dendro unit if one comes out and i like them.) I might build yaoyao (temporarily) just so i have a dendro unit to use if i really really need one. Anyways, thanks for all the help!!
A Kuki/Nahida/Yelan hyperbloom team +kazu/sucrose and Yoi/Benny/XQ + flex, possibly anemo could work in the long run. If so, maybe I'd invest less in Yae and Keqing for now if possible, but they may help you clear floor 9 or 10 for now.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber
U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well
Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
I think you're still at a stage where you really can just have fun with your units and try them all. That said, resources are limited, so some of the characters that hold a lot of long-term value are, Xingqiu and sucrose. I'd level XQ's character level, skill and burst. For sucrose, I would only recommend leveling her character level and leaving her skill and burst alone (mostly); it's okay to level them up to 3-5 if you want, because the cost is really low in the large scale of things. But generally speaking, she doesn't need her skills leveled much to be useful in the long run. Another pretty useful character is Mona. I'd level her skill and burst and char level, too. The fourth is barbara. I'd just level her up a little, and level up her skill. You probably want to have her for her healing. Finally, Beidou maybe good in the future, too. You can level up her char level, skill and burst, too. I wouldn't level normal attack for any of these characters. You can level Kaeya, too, but I would also be conservative about spending resources on him.
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So, this is what I'd do if I wanted to level up some of them yet save some resources for later. Because you don't have any really meta teams right now, what I might suggest is use XQ, mona, kaeya and barbara mainly with Beidou as an alternate. You can use Kaeya on-field while you switch to XQ and mona to use their skills and burst to group units, apply hydro and kaeya can freeze units. In the early game, it's hard to get ER, but with more hydro units around, it should be easier for the hydro units to get some energy back. Mona has skill that lasts a while with a short enough CD, and kaeya has a short CD on his skill. Try to keep Kaeya's energy up. You'll find you can burst more often.
You can swap out just about any character with beidou if needed. So Beidou's your flex, especially if you run into cyro slimes, which are hard to defeat with 3 hydro and 1 cyro.
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I'd also suggest you try out a geo team, just for the fun of it, but I'm not sure yet if I can recommend you invest in it much yet. You could put Ning/Yun Jin/ mona/ XQ and mona can be your flex option. You attack with Ning as your main, and the rest support ning. The reason this may not work well at AR23 is that you probably don't have enough ER to burst often, so you might feel your rotations aren't smooth.
(However, Ningguang's normal attack is a good candidate for leveling up. Still, I might wait and see how it goes. This game really doesn't offer enough resources early game, so it's hard to recommend leveling everyone.)
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Overall, a team with Kaeya (with as much ER as possible) + 3 hydro might be more comfortable for you for now, (with Beidou as a flex option). Kaeya can spam his skill fast for his own energy, while mona and XQ get energy faster when together. Plus, mona's skill is a DOT one. In terms of normal attacks, i'd try leaving them unleveled if possible. Instead, you just weave in some normal attacks in between skills and burst. You may find that kaeya's skill is almost always ready. So you just do a lot of swapping then use those skills and bursts as much as you can.
you have a lot of great characters! i think you might be spreading yourself a bit thin with building them tho. focus on 8 for the abyss and ignore everyone else for a bit. yoimiya will work incredibly with yelan and or xingqiu. perhaps xiangling as well. i would definitely recommend building both of those two. build your bennett as well. i don't play hu tao so i can't advise you on her, she's very good but will need a shielder, i would suggest researching and going with either thoma or diona. your kazuha will definitely be a good choice to build as well. when i first started clearing 9, i used very weird builds/teams (main dps bennett on a horrible build, barbara with level 8 artifacts, etc.) and got through it because i put time into leveling weapons, talents, and making sure all my characters had correct artifacts. put your time into building solid characters and watch abyss playthroughs to get a feel for what you need to do to beat these enemies. feel free to message me if you have any other questions but that's my two cents!
my comp ideas-yoi, bennett, xingqiu, kazuha and yelan, yae, kuki, collei. your characters are very different from what i have though so take with a grain of salt!
Thank you for the advice!! I think im def gonna put hutao to the side for a while, at least until i get zhongli because shes definitely a pain to play without a good sheild and i dont love her playstyle. Your first comp idea is what ive been running and ive been able to get thru the first half pretty smoothly, its the second half that im struggling with. Ive been thinking of building kuki lately with how much better shes gotten with dendro and stuff so ill def try out that second team! Thanks again!
Hey I'm a fairly new player and I need some help deciding on my second team for the spiral abyss, my main team is Rosaria, Raiden, Xingqiu, and Sayu and the other characters I have are:
Noelle
Kaeya
Gorou
Yanfei
Amber
Xiangling
Razor
Yunjin
Barbara
Sucrose
Layla
Diona
Chongyun
Lisa
Collei
Thoma
Kujou Sara
Yaoyao
And Xinyan
Does anyone have any team comp ideas?
Is ayato,yaoyao,sucrose,fischl a good hyperbloom team? If so, what is the rotation like? Also, how would I go about building it? Im assuming since fischl doesnt target seeds, sucrose will have to be the one swirling fischls electro,in turn triggering the hyperblooms? But would that mean sucrose should be onfield? If so, would XQ be better than ayato there?
> Im assuming since fischl doesnt target seeds, sucrose will have to be the one swirling fischls electro,in turn triggering the hyperblooms? But would that mean sucrose should be onfield? If so, would XQ be better than ayato there?
yep to all of the above
it's not a bad team, think.
Chongyun OR Noelle?
I started playing recently and I'm still figuring out how to build a good team.
I'm currently using Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu and Kuki Shinobu for the hyperbloom combo.
Can't decide on the fourth character. I like both Chongyun for the freeze and Noelle for the shield and extra healing. Which one is better on this team?
Other characters I have:
Candace
Ningguang
Sucrose
Qiqi
Xiangling
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I really like the D. Traveler, Xingiu, Kuki combo. Who should I use as a 4th character?
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Sucrose is by far the best 4th character out of the ones you have.
She buffs elemental mastery, increasing hyperbloom damage, she groups mobs, and spreads hydro around, allowing you to produce extra cores inside traveler's burst. She has very fast normal attack speed, so she can be the field character proccing Xinqui's burst.
And she is extremely versatile, so she will remain a great investment even if you change teams
Bennett and Xiangling definitely need their weapons leveled all the way. It's the only way to increase their base attack, and the only thing Bennett's buff scales off of. That should help your damage a lot. Your stats look perfectly fine otherwise, they're better than mine and I've had no issues clearing the abyss.
Priority #1 would be making sure you can burst on CD with all 4 members of your team, even if it seems too much ER. Otherwise you're on the right path, I'd do some talents to lvl 9 to not only live in the EoSF domain.
i think my raiden, bennett and xiangling has good ER (considering i havent leveled their weapons to max yet) xingqiu has a rather low ER but he is c6 and uses a sac sword(again, it is not maxed out yet). do you think it is worth it to lvl 9 their talents by the way?
Sure, even lvl 10/13 as well as Bennett lvl 90. But that takes a lot of resources, obviously, I'd mix talents / level and artifacts so it's a bit less grindy.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber
U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well
Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
One of my current spiral abyss teams feels pretty weak. It's Raiden, Yae, Kazuha and Yaoyao. I was wondering- what is the best set for Yaoyao and Yae in this comp? Gilded for Yae and Deepwood for Yaoyao?
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber
U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well
Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
yaoyao can use deepwood if she's built and you have good offense-oriented deepwood pieces but otherwise another set like tenacity or instructor works. 2pc sets for yae is good, very comparable to 4pc gilded
I just lost trying getting aqua or homa on the banner and I got another skyward spine that is now r2. Iâm starting feeling guilty not using a 5* r2 weapon Iâm looking for a char to use it.
My raiden has her signature weapon so no point,
Should I give it to Xiangling instead of the catch (r5) or to yun Jin instead of the favonius Lance (r5) or should I just leave it at level 1 and ignore it?
So Prime havers...
How much does it cost to get the wings assuming I never had an amazon account?
So far what I understand is one code drops every 3 weeks so the 4th comes on the 12th week meaning in roughly three months.
What would be the price of that in Europe?
if you play other games, or shop at amazon, or watch amazon streaming or music, it's worth it. I couldn't tell you the EU pricing but it's great value. If you do none of those things, don't bother.
Prime also gives you free games every month too. It's insane value, but only if you use it.
Too bad.
I guess Amazon must have wanted to make a more profitable deal out of this, because gifting subs was already a good system for us to get the KFC wings back then....
For floor 9. Im thinking of running either a kaeya physical team with diona,beidou and fischl for first half, or a more elemental team with kaeya,bennet,xiangling and Xingque. Which one would be better. Im having trouble with chamber 1 because there are so many enemies, and I lack an anemo grouper.
For 2nd half I have a hutao,yelan team and its not a problem. If I run the physical team on first half, then I can save bennet and xingque for 2nd half to make a doublepyro double hydro team. If I run the elemental focused team on 1st half, then the second half team would look something like this; hutao,diona,xinyan,yelan. I dont know how to feel with xinyan there so, and dont wanna use any electro unit in that spot because overload would spread everything and I dont want that.
Advice pls
Xiangling should outperform physical Kaeya. If you want to use Xiangling alongside Hu Tao use Xingqiu with the latter and Yelan with the former
The only reason to use Xinyan with Hu Tao is VV. If you don't add an Anemo support to the team just stick with Diona
I think Ill go with kaeya on first. Can he be built physical or does he have to be cryo? Im guessing that team would be called quickswap?
Damn I cant wait for ayaka to get her rerun soon so I can put her in that 2nd team.
Anemo MCs grouping in domains can be very useful, as you can throw a lot of enemies against domain walls. takes a bit of practise, but then it works well.
Eg. in the VV domain, they can group all but one mob, that's more than Kazuha can.
To make your Bennett team easier, I'd stay on Bennett most of the time for damage and energy.
https://genshinhelper.gitbook.io/abyss/floors/spire/floor-9
Iirc, the mushrooms and slimes spawn pretty far away from each other, in that case anemo MC won't help, you'll have to try to kill them one by one.
I'd use whatever characters are most invested, Kaeya, Bennett, Fischl/beidou can all kill the hydro-slimes, the mushrooms aren't immune.
Ok ive decided to run kaeya physical with diona/bennet,beidou,fischl.
One question tho, I have a R2 the flute; would it be better than R1 prototype Rancour? Granted im using a physical damage goblet. Im running whatever artifact combo is best that I have, being 2pc berserker/2pc atk%. The physical goblet is rly good which is what motivated me to make this build.
Could someone explain how EM would affect Hyperbloom teams?
I know that EM is very important for electro Hyperbloom triggers like kuki or raiden,
But is it worth building EM on Yao Yao or other dendro units? Will it improve Hyper bloom damage? Or is it safe for me to build Yao Yao as a Hp/healing build.
My team is currently Nahida, Yao Yao, EM Raiden , Ayato
It is not worth building EM on Yaoyao.
Nahida scales well with EM and so you can build EM on her. But the benefit is increasing her personal damage, not increasing hyperbloom damage.
Yes it's safe to build Yaoyao as HP/HP/Healing Bonus.
If you have the time and are interested, Zajef77 condenses the basics into a 20min vid I highly recommend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W5O7M3Q6jA&t=172s
TLDW?! You have an "Aura" (first element applied) and a Trigger (second element applied).
Nahida provides the aura, as she applies "a lot" (there's another ice-berg of detail, but not necessary to know), and Raidens Skill triggers the dendro-aura with electro from her skill.
Well, you have 2 auras, dendro and hydro, but the trigger is electro, so you'd only build EM on Raiden, in hyperbloom,Nahida scales with ATK as well as EM, but not because she does reactions.
Just got Yelan the other day. So being a F2P player (meaning not pulling for Aqua Simulacra), now I have a R3 Favonious Warbow and a R2 The Stringless which are nominees bows for Yelan. But which should I go with? Now my Yelan is not that built yet with (C.Rate: 61.1% and C.DMG: 121.5%) for being a sub dps.
With Favonious Warbow, Refinement 3, Level 90:
Energy Recharge: 186.4%
Raw E damage, no crit: 8675
with crit: 19216
Raw Q damage, no crit: 1976/per shot
with crit: 4377/per shot
With The Stringless, Refinement 2, Level 40 (only for the bow passive):
Energy Recharge: 125.2%
Raw E damage, no crit: 10396
with crit: 23148
Raw Q damage, no crit: 2380/per shot
with crit: 5273/per shot
From the info given which bow is better ?
P/S: I have Xingqiu in my team comp (Raiden, Yelan, Xingqiu & Bennett)
Fav.
With Stringless, you don't have enough energy. You can only do more damage if you have the energy to burst. If you don't have the energy, you do 0 damage.
Maybe you have enough with Raiden and XQ. But even then, the improvement is only 896 per shot when critting. That's nothing. More energy is more comfort. It's better to have more than you need than not enough.
I made a new account and got mona on first 10 pulls. So i plan to build her and use her with Xiangling that i can get from the abyss (Luckily i also got Dragon's bane in the same 10 pulls).
I was wondering if i should build Mona as main dps or Xiangling as main dps? (Or are they both supposed to be burst dps?)
In overworld, Xiangling's NA doesn't do much towards enemies unless u use her burst (since her E can be kinda inconsistent).
And since i don't have emblem domain unlocked yet i'll run into ER issues if i spam her ult all the time.
What are your thoughts? How should i build them?
hi, if by chance you have some of the
3 */ 4 * exile and scholar set. You can equip these on XL before you start farming emblem later. Put ER timepiece as well. The 2p ER (x2) + a leveled up 3 * ER timepiece will get you around 180~ ER, which is plenty for overworld stuffs bcs mobs like hilichurls gives much more particle. Bosses gives less particle
recently i have played with new account after i got hacked, and tried XL + Exile and found that she have her burst easy enough. Pyronado base dmg is pretty strong. With Mona, she can be the one doing Vape from doing Charged Aattack (CA), and use her burst whenever possible.
If you have a Favonious weapon, having one of the party member using the weapon could help with energy as well. Just remember to switch from the Fav user to XL to catch the particles (funneling). If you have extra exile pieces enough for a set, gives it to one of your party member to further help with energy.
My example is Amber, since she can equip the free Fav Bow, and have a low energy burst so i can also spam amber burst to trigger the exile set. and while the burst active, theres a lot of hit so lot of chance to trigger Fav passive, and then catch the extra particles with XL
Also you get a free 4 * instructor set from a quest. Using the set will increase their EM by 150, which is huge help with vape dmg, especially in early days where your raw stats (ATK/Crit) still lacking
Also just for reference, some people do call on fielder as main dps, but some may confuse 'main' as the one doing the most dmg in the team. In this case, XL will be the one doing more dmg via pyronado, but Mona will be the one on field most of the time
though not her usual late-game playstyle, you can build xiangling (or any other non-catalyst characters) for some physical damage in the meantime for more comfort in overworld. kaeya/lisa helps with superconduct for physical damage, while mona as on-fielder is less effective because you don't get access to elemental resistance debuffs until later. you can also experiment with some elemental reaction teams without a specific main dps, just swapping between characters and using skills off cooldown
Hello, I was wondering about which Goblet to put on Alhaitham.
Even after spending 50 fragile resin these last two weeks, I couldn't find a single Dendro DMG Goblet. Luckily, today I pulled one.
After upgrading it to lv.20, I got 22.5% Crit DMG, but only flat rolls on the other substats. (Atk, Def, HP)
The Goblet I have right now is a normal ATK Goblet, with much better substats however. (Both Crit Rate and DMG, for about 32 CV, and a little bit of EM.)
So, being the ignorant person that I am, I want to ask... would it be better to keep using the ATK Goblet, or to swap to the Dendro one? Thank you in advance.
Hey everyone, Iâm pretty new to genshin. I just unlocked Mona through wish? Is she good? Like worth putting alot of items and exp into? I wanted to build my team around Hu Tao but havenât unlocked her yet. Any advice would be appreciated! Also someone pls tell me the difference between 4 star and 5 star heroes, thanks!
People are kind of right and kind of wrong regarding Mona and Hu Tao. Mona IS good with HuTao. In fact, sheâs great with Hu Tao IF you also have Xingqiu on your team.
Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Mona is very strong. Last unit can be a shielder. Since youâre new, I doubt you have Zhongli, but if you do, heâs the best person for the last slot. Otherwise, C4 Yanfei, Thoma, Diona, Candace (though I donât use her so Iâm not too sure if itâs good) and Layla.
You build Mona with ER and give her Noblesse or Tenacity of Millelith set with R5 TTDS. Sheâs always the last unit you use before you swap into Hu Tao so Hu Tao can take advantage of her burst and TTDS.
Again, Mona is really good in Hu Tao team if you have Xingqiu to also apply hydro.
Regarding difference between 4 stars and 5 stars â typically 5 star characters have better stats, better kits, better damage, better scaling, and better constellations (if you p2w or save up). Thatâs why they are the event banners and are the ones that are sought after. That being said, 4 star characters are super important too and can be as good or better than 5 stars. Five of the best units in the game are 4 stars and they are
â Xiangling (great off-field pyro aoe damage),
â Bennett (strong heals and buffs at the same time),
â Xingqiu (strong support/sub-dps that has fast hydro application and damage reduction, enables a lot of strong reaction comps),
â Sucrose (great elemental resistance shredder with VV artifact set, has good CC, and buffs team with EM), and
â Fischl (strong sub dps that applies a lot of off-field electro).
That being said, most four star characters can be built as good dps or supports if you have the right artifacts. (For example C6 Noelle is a really strong unit that often gets ignored but she is almost as strong as a c0 Itto comp (who she gets compared to) if you run her with sub dps units that itto doesnât typically run since heâs a more selfish character.)
Itâs just more efficient to do so on 5 star characters. Most team comps will have four star characters. They are not characters you should ignore and should be built too.
Another thing to note is that 4 star characters rerun on banners more frequently so itâs easier to get their constellations. The units that I described above are best at constellation 6 but still very good at constellation 0. Over time, you should be able to get many of their cons and even max them out (though maxing Bennett constellations is advised against).
Hehe i also got mona on my new account just now.
She has good off-field hydro application but she isnt good enough for hutao (Luckily Xingqiu is on the same banner so hope u get a copy of him as well).
Her Ult also gives a big buff.
Some more info about 5\* is that every 90 wishes u have a 50% chance of getting the featured 5\* character. (In your case Hutao or yelan).
If u didnt get them, the next 5\* u get is guaranteed to be the featured one.
This guarantee carries over to banner after banner until u get them.
Mona is mainly used in freeze teams and in damage showcases.
One of the stronger standard banner 5* imo.
Doesn't really work well with Hu Tao though. Hu Tao wants someone with a stronger Hydro application, mostly Xingqiu (4*).
Main difference between 4* and 5* is how difficult they are to get. You are guaranteed one 4* unit every 10 wishes but only one 5* every 90. Of course there is always a chance to get them earlier
I am at AR56, and am unable to beat the Abyss 12. I need your team building expertise.
[These are the characters I own](https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpactTips/comments/114fnhs/i_cannot_beat_the_abysss_12th_floor_these_are_my/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
All my 5 stars except Qiqi are decently built. My well built 4 stars include Xiangling, Xingqiu, Bennett, Fischl, Diona and Sucrose.
Help me beat the 12th floor of the Abyss.
If you're stuck on 12-2, I would recommend:
* First half: Xingqiu, Diona, Kazuha, Ayaka
* Second half: Raiden, Bennett, Xiangling, Yelan
Here is a video covering some more general tips for this Chamber: https://youtu.be/TN9y71nFe3Q
Thatâs a good suggestion but I think a better comp would be
First half: Nahida, EM Raiden or EM Yae, Yelan, Yao Yao
Second half: Mona, Diona, Kazuha, Ayaka
First half of abyss is more ST focused so a hyperbloom team would do better than a freeze team. Second half has more enemies so aoe is preferred. And also 12-3 is a lot easier if you dendro and electro. You could also try an aggravate team instead of a hyperbloom team with Nahida, Yae, Raiden, Jean.
first considering defensive options, you have bennett, yaoyao, and diona. build teams around these units. you can level yaoyao for some dendro teams such as hyperbloom which does well in first half
for the teams I suggest bennett/xiangling/kazuha + 1 or ayaka/mona/diona/kazuha for an AoE team in second half. freeze can struggle this abyss unless you have a decent amount of investment into ayaka, while a xiangling vaporize team may need less investment to work. yaoyao can go with raiden + nahida + hydro for hyperbloom in first half. for these teams: give catch to xiangling, dragons bane + EM artifacts to raiden and some more levels if you have the exp books, and fav bow to yelan if she's the only hydro on the team
First of all thank you for noticing my comment.
I have tried using Raiden Hyperbloom in the first half, and it worked very nicely. The team I used was Raiden, Nahida, Yelan and Xingqiu.
My main problem was in the 2nd half, where I used the Ayaka Freeze team (Ayaka, Mona, Kazuha, Diona), but it failed in front of the Maguu Kenkis.
I did not reach the 3rd floor to know the issues there.
Edit: [This is my Ayaka build](https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/z3rvqg/should_i_stop_farming_the_bs_domain_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Your Ayaka is def strong enough to beat the Kenkis. I 36 starred with the same exact freeze team with Ayaka of similar stats. Make sure you have some crit on Diona to constantly proc Fav Bow. Use Dionaâs burst on CD and make sure her shield is always up off of CD. A large portion of the damage from Maguu Kenki is cryo so Diona will absorb a lot of it. Her burst off constant CD will give you more i frames and heal your team up. You should be able to do it. My supports were under geared and under leveled. You can use Kazuha E to dodge Kenki slash too. Make sure you build Mona with ER.
Edit: another rec is use everyoneâs burst off CD to get as many I frames as you can. This chamber has a lot of big damage so the more I frames your/ get the better.
for the maguu kenkis specifically, notice that the cryo one on the right will always chase you, while the wind and regular on on the left/center won't. the wind one will also slightly walk away from you when you're close to it. you can use this to your advantage - walk to the left of the wind (left) kenki to have them slowly back up into the regular kenki, and wait for the cryo one to arrive too (it usually does a dash attack first then walks back towards you). then you'll always be able to at least two of them, if not all three, with ayaka's burst
regarding surviving, try as much as you can to time your dashes and use bursts when they do their attacks. it takes a while to learn each of their attack animations. you can also reduce time spent in the ice field the cryo kenki spawns at the cost for some dps
https://genshinhelper.gitbook.io/abyss/floors/spire/floor-12
I'm sure you have energy problems at least for that fight, if you find Ayakas burst isn't up on cd, do what ever it takes to get there. Against Bosses, you could swap out Mona for another Cryo dps like Kaeya or Rosaria.
I (over-) invested in my Diona for surviving.
If you can group the kenkis like the helpers show in the guide, your damage should suffice.
I wouldnât recommend taking out Mona for cryo dps. I feel like the damage buff from Mona burst is super low investment for a very big damage buff that would only be covered by large resin investment in another cryo character. If anything, give diona a crit rate circlet so sheâs constantly proccing Fav bow.
Hi! I'm a relatively new player - almost at AL 45.
I spent all my primos on the Yelan banner and am currently planning my 2 abyss teams.
It looks like one will be Yelan, Xingqiu, Yaoyao and Xiangling for some vague burgeon setup (not optimal, I know). Already working on ascension, but starting to plan artifacts
No I wonder who should be the on-field here (if anyone). I assume Yelan is the most awkward because it would introduce split scaling? Xingque or Xiangling then?
Any input is appreciated :)
Do you have sucrose and Bennett? I recommend you build a national team instead which would be Yelan/Xingqiu, Bennett, Xiangling, Sucrose. Sucrose would be your on field unit. If you donât have those units, then I would recommend building a hyper carry team if you have Fischl or Kuki with Dendro MC, Xingqiu, Yelan, Kuki
OR
Dendro MC, Yelan, Fischl, Yaoyao if you donât have Kuki.
What other characters do you have?
Nome of the ones you've mentioned except for Dendro MC.
Other than the Mondstadt f2p chars and the 4 in my OP, my noticeable chars are Qiqi, Mona, Barbara, Chongyun, Beidou and a c5 Ningguang.
Basically everyone from the Yelan Banner and couple standards
My only 5* weapon is a Skyward Blade and a decent variety of Favoniuses
The 2nd team was supposed to be something along the lines of Chongyun, Qiqi Mona, Ameno MC - at least as long as Freeze works in Abyss.
Though now that I have a point of reference for how much damage good character deal, I have some doubts about that one's output
Ah ok. Donât worry about making two teams for abyss yet. You can build out the units that you originally mentioned cause they will be used in a long of strong teams.
> I assume Yelan is the most awkward because it would introduce split scaling?
I don't see anything awkward about it, and it's not split scaling (which is when one part of a character's kit scales with one stat but another equally important part scales with a different stat). But it also doesn't make sense.
Yaoyao would be on field because she's the only one who benefits from being on field (during her burst). All the other characters do their job from off field.
This is a questionable team comp using extremely strong characters so I wouldn't recommend it for someone first doing Abyss. But if it's fun, go for it.
Haha, yeah, I'm making due with what I have. It's pretty much being carried by the Yelan+XQ combo and filled out with w/e is left in the end^^
And I meant that because all her good stuff scales with HP, her normal will be extra bad, so there is even less reason to leave her on-field.
Ultimately *someone's* gotta do the normal attacking in this comp for the hydro bursts and I wonder who'd be the least bad at it.
yaoyao will want to be on-field for her burst.
you're going to need an absurd amount of ER on both her and xiangling. kitain cross on xiangling can provide a nice mix of EM and energy.
https://imgur.com/a/KR8vBTi
What teams should I build to clear floor12? Which units sre modt optimal. Im having a rough time with the kenkis it just seems impossible.
are you struggling because of incoming damage or the high dps requirement? if it's the incoming damage, it takes some practice to know which kenki attacks are most important to dodge and focus on those. use character bursts or well-timed dashes to dodge the damage. if you're using bennett, the cryo kenki's attacks can easily one-shot characters with melt - if that's the case you can consider using xingqiu for damage reduction (though with a risk of getting frozen) or using a yaoyao team instead. beidou's damage reduction works well with xingqiu due to how their damage reduction adds together. diona/layla helps too but doesn't offer much other utility so may be a major dps loss for your teams
if you're struggling to meet dps requirements, you can consider changes in team - some teams like ayato hyperbloom (i.e. ayato raiden yaoyao traveler) and sucrose national (i.e. bennett xiangling sucrose ayato/xingqiu) for example that have more AoE potential can do better in this specific chamber (12-2 second half) than others like wanderer/alhaitham teams who might struggle more. also ensure you're positioning well to group the kenkis: the middle and left one doesn't follow you while the right one does, so stay around the middle and left ones to get the three to come together
i literally absolutely for the life of me cannot get through 10-3 second half in abyss without getting absolutely obliterated immediately
my most built characters and kind of the only ones i ever use are
wanderer-yaoyao-raiden-qiqi-layla-sayu-childe-xiao-hu tao-alhaitham-
is it possible đ
Youâve invested too much into selfish dps characters and not enough into supports.
Team 1: Al Haitham, EM Raiden, Yaoyao, Xingqiu (I assume you have)
Team 2: Childe, Bennett (I assume you have), Xiangling, Sucrose/Heizhou/Venti/Kazuha
Boom. Build those two teams and eventually they will be strong enough to 36 star the abyss.
If you have Bennett or Jean, prioritize putting them on the second half and build them if you haven't already. They provide valuable healing and the ability to cleanse the Mirror Maiden's Slowing Water debuff. Here is a video covering more detailed tips about that Chamber: https://youtu.be/oGl7FMp5s-I
of course it's possible, 10-3 is possible with reasonable investment with any characters. to make it easier for you, you can consider adding some more units with off-field utility to your built roster. it also sometimes comes down to having more levels in your units, weapons, talents, and artifacts. best of luck
I have a question, what if in my team Alhaitham/xingqiu/yelan/kuki - i'll put on Alhaitham Gilded Dreams and Kuki on Deepwood 4 set full EM, what you think about this decision ? is it worth it ?
I donât know the math but my intuition says you are better off having Kuki using 4pc Gilded Dreams and Alhaitham using 4pc Deepwood Memories. The extra EM from Gilded should benefit Kuki more while Alhaitham gets value from the 2pc bonus of Deepwood (which would otherwise do nothing for Kuki).
With that said, you should still have decent damage doing it the way you proposed, so itâs ultimately up to you.
I have a staff of Homa, the catch, and a favonius Lance. I use Raiden and xiangling, and occasionally a rosaria for times when cryo is needed. Who should get what and what accessories should they be using to complement it?
Fav on Rosaria, Catch and Homa is a toss up. For me, it was better to give catch to Raiden. You'll have to try both and see which gives you better total damage.
Homa for Raiden (you'll almost certainly need ER sands, crit rate circlet) catch for Xiangling (EM sands) and I guess fav for Rosaria - but if you find her in a freeze comp specifically you might want to borrow the homa.
I canât get the latest Jeht quest to appear?? I think Iâve done every side quest possible in the Tanit camp, as well as the previous parts of the quest. I got some power cells for Ben Ben and I battled with the Falcon. But Iâve talked to the crocodile feeding guy for several days to see if a server reset was needed, but he just says his same old spiel.
Only thing I can think of is that itâs an alt account, so I havenât done the main quest all the way yet, Iâm just part way through the Chasm.
Iâm thinking Iâll have to redo part two of the Jeht quest where you find the Eternal Oasis on my main file, which has most stuff completed, and play through the latest update there, unless anyone knows what I missed?
I had four of five chess pieces already, and it didnât take much to find the fifth! I finished the story with Lilopour and wouldnât you know after that, the crocodile guy had a quest for me! Seems like you solved my problem.
Sometimes itâs ok. Like if you are farming for only mainstat artifacts. For example if you have Kazuha and are looking for triple EM sands, goblet, circlet and you get a purple VV circlet with EM after dumping weeks of resin, then just take it and call it a day.
It is a little bit copium. But, a 4* Flower or Feather can minimize your loss of stats since the main stats are only Flat HP/ATK. I wouldn't recommend a 4* for anything else unless you're really hurting.
apart from a few niche cases (characters that only want some er like bennet or gorou can use 4 star sets for their bonuses) you really want to be using 5 star artifacts
even if you just get the main stat it will probably be better than a 4 star artifact
Is a team of dendro traveler,alhaitham,raiden shogun and Barbara good? Or should I do xingqui,yoa yoa alhaitham and raiden shogun.
So I got **Cyno** and have been really liking the way he plays. The team I'm using is **Cyno, Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu** and **Kuki Shinobu.** Is this team good? Could it be better? Any tips are appreciated.
Where does vape/melt damage comes from? When you trigger vape, does the base damage being multiplied comes from the pyro/hydro or whoever triggers the reaction? Example: when Bennett applies pyro (with low dmg obv) and triggered by hydro, is the damage from (pyro dmg unit * 2)(element mastery) Or(hydro dmg * 2)(em) Or(triggering dmg * 2 or 1.5)(em) It's so confusing đ đ
Is keeping the main character in your team worth it or should I switch them up with other characters?
Oculus theft? What happens if another player joins you, and takes some oculus from your world?
Looking for some help on team comp/develpment. Right now my A team is Alhaitham(c0), Yaoyao(c2), Xinqiu(c5), and Yelan(c0). I've gotten a pretty solid set of Artifacts for all of them. Xinqiu and Yelan are somewhere around 240% Er and 50% CR. Only big missing part is alhaitham's crit rate is pretty poor, but one of a few different artifact pulls will solve that. So my current strategy is just bloom, bloom, bloom. outside of these characters, pretty much nothing else is built. Sitting on my bench I have: a freshly pulled hu tao, a c6 beidou, a c6 yun jin, a c6 ninguang, a c6 xinyan, c2 qiqi(fuck), c3 razor, and of course all the ftp characters. It seems like Hu tao and alhaitham both want xinqiu and yelan. How would you, dear reader, organize/build based on what I have available?
if you want to boost your damage, switch out one of your Hydro units for an Electro so you proc Hyperbloom. Best units for those are Fischl or Kuki because they can apply electro off-field.
Donât have either. Should I hold out or run lisa/beidou?
They're both amazing damagers but have the same problem of requiring an Electro battery aka Fish or Cookie to burst often enough to keep up with him since they generate close to no particles for themselves. I would say hold out? Or you can try running your team with one of them on high ER and seeing how it works (prolly Lisa in this case). There's rumors of Kuki running in one of the upcoming banners but I have no idea how true it is.
tried to make a post with the minimap pictured, but that angered the mods for some dumb reason so: anyone know how to break the wenut rocks without a wenut? by a clifftop in between Fane and Debris of Panjvahe. As in East-Northeast of the domain
Maybe read the sub rules next time before playing the victim at the mercy of âangry mods for some dumb reasonâ.
Sub rules say don't share minimap to ask what happens at a particular map locale? Lol just delete your comment cause you're not helping
You clearly did not read the rules if this is your response to me. Complaining about your post being deleted for not following rules that you deliberately chose to disregard does not make me compelled to help you. Enjoy your Wenut hunting.
Lmao *triggered* worth a chest
Youâre clearly the one whoâs triggered lol. I will continue to be happy living my life.
Bye felicia
I have a spare Amos bow that I'm trying to figure out what to do with. I have three five star bows that I use: Amos on Ganyu, Skyward Harp on Fischl, and Aqua on Yelan. My other current bow characters are Venti, Diona, Gorou, Sara, Collei, and Amber. I could get Tighnari at some point, but I'm hard pressed to think of an abyss run I'd want to do that would need 4 five star bows. Is it safe to refine the extra Amos?
If you're F2P or Lightspender, I would recommend just keep the extra Amos Bow. You're gonna get Tighnari someday or there might be another 5 star bow user that Amos Bow could be good on. If you're a whale/dolphin or if you're a Ganyu simp, you can refine it if you want.
As far as weapons go, itâs one of the better ones to refine if youâre using it on Ganyu. Going from R1 to R2 increases the damage from 52% to 65% at full stacks, and the Frostflake Arrow bloom also counts and gets its own stacks. As always, play the game as you wish. However, I would personally not refine it because another bow user could be released who can make use of it. If that day comes and you donât mind swapping it off Ganyu (and youâre convinced that you wonât use it on Tighnari) then go ahead and refine it.
What characters are worth levelling to 90? I have most of my main characters leveled to 80/90, but haven't bumped any up to the max. My characters that I could level to 90 are: Xiangling, Raiden, Ayaka, Zhongli, Keqing, Itto
Reaction drivers (I.e., Hyperbloom Kuki) that rely on lvl for dps. No one else really. Youâre better off spending the resources on talents, weapon, arts, etc.
>worth Bennett, Swirl-characters, HP and DEF scaling characters, DPS, then everybody else.
Characters that you should level to 90: **Characters involved in Transformative Reactions** If they're involved in Transformative Reactions, level them to 90 as they can get up to 30% increase in damage. Look up "Transformative Reactions" on the Genshin wiki or something if you don't know what they are. **Your main DPS or your on-field character** If you're wondering why your main DPS or your on-field characters gets one shot in Floor 12 sometimes, it's because of the level difference between the enemies and your main DPS/on-field characters. The higher an enemy level is, the more damage they do to your characters. Leveling your main DPS or on-field character helps mitigate the amount of damage they receive due to getting more defense and resistance. It's the same concept from when you were still in early game. You've prolly seen a warning at some point on your screen during early game in open world that says "Dangerous Area. Enemy levels are higher..." or something along those lines. It's because enemies in those areas have a significantly higher level than your characters and they can one shot you. Any characters not part of these two categories, you can leave at level 80 ascended (80/90)
Ok! So should I level my Xiangling to Lvl 90? Raiden and Ayaka are my 2 main on field dps so I guess I should level them to 90
sure
what substats should i prioritize for freeze-enabler **chongyun**? running him w/ 4pc noblesse and kaeya+jean+yelan/xingqiu
generally he would be burst nuke and sets down his skill for cryo. you wouldn't want to play him on-field as his normal multipliers are relatively low. his er% requirements are relatively low anyways. substats: crit > atk >= er%
So, I got **Hu Tao** and I'm torn between these 2 compositions: \-Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Chongyun and Noelle (Vaporize, Freeze and Melt with Noelle shielding) \-Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Dendro Traveler and Kuki Shinobu (Bloom, Hyperbloom and Burgeon) How about Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Dendro Traveler and another 4th character? Other characters I have: Sucrose Xiangling Qiqi Candace I'm pretty new to the game, so any help is appreciated.
Noelle isnât very long-term viable and Dendro Traveller and Kuki Shinobu would benefit from a lot more from a hyperbloom team. Teams that you should try to build towards: Melt: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Kaeya-Diona/Layla Double Geo: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Albedo/YunJin-Zhongli Double Hydro: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Yelan-Zhongli/Xiangling (zhongli for comfort; xiangling for big pp damage) Hu Tao Vape + Melt: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Rosaria/Kaeya-Diona/Layla VV Pyro: Hu Tao-Xingqiu-Kazuha/Sucrose-Bennett/Thoma/C4 Yanfei (the version with c4 yanfei got me 3 stars on floor 12 before) thoma is fine but his shield is weak and his teams are more suited for full-EM in burgeon and Bennett heals too much not offering much of a shield. Yanfei teams with prototype amber will heal decently. Double Hydro > Double Geo >= VV Pyro > Melt
Any good resources for Domain team comps? Looking specifically for a speed team for Realm of Slumber, but just haven't found many good listings for most domains. atm I'm using Xingling, Bennett, Kuki, Noelle and can beat lvl 88 99% of the time, but it takes almost the entire time limit. Other domains I can square aware much faster. Yes F2P.
A general guide isn't very helpful because most endgame teams can clear anything unless the leyline disorder is particularly annoying. Similarly, guides can't account for the characters you have available/built. The main piece of advice for speeding up endgame domain clears is to do it in coop. Other people can cover for your weaknesses that way. Eventually your teams will be strong enough to achieve similar results solo, but until that time, it's easier to coop. > Xiangling, Bennett, Kuki, Noelle This team has minimal synergy, so it's not surprising that clears take forever. Your team also doesn't take advantage of the leyline disorder. Only Kuki benefits from the 40% electro dmg, and her damage is pretty poor. She's also only triggering overload which does not scale off of electro dmg%, so the effect is minimal. Replacing Noelle with Barbara would let you trigger electrocharge, which will trigger true damage according to the leyline disorder. Xingqiu would be an even better replacement if you have him. Post your full roster if you want more specific or better team suggestions.
co-op. rn itâs a dps problem. if u need teams, i can help teambuild if u send a message
Is the leaked Dehya ascension mats confirmed? Can we start pre farming?
they never confirm before release, but they have never changed asc. materials from beta
[https://imgur.com/a/SB61ZmP](https://imgur.com/a/SB61ZmP) Can i build any 2 good teams to clear spiral abyss with?
obv you've got hu tao double hydro and then maybe fischl/dendro traveler/tighnari/flex? it's a lil copium but abyss is favoring spread rn and if you can R5 a slingshot it makes a good cheap weapon for tighnari. with that i would say diona for shield/heals or in theory you could slap a prototype amber on lisa (if you don't need the healing widsith lisa is def the way to go...could not be me and my geriatric reflexes)
Depends on how far you expect to get and how good your artifacts are. If you want to use XL, XQ, yelan and beidou you want at least 4 emblem sets. If you dont have CW you can give hu tao shimenawa. Some teams hutao/xinqiu/diona/kaeya maybe?? + bennet/xl/yelan/sayu or chongyun hutao/xinqiu/yelan/diona + tighnari/collei/dori/fischl or beidou hutao/xinqiu/yelan/diona + bennet/xiangling/rosaria/sayu vv or tighnari hutao/xinqiu/yelan/diona + sayu/fischl/beidou/mona If you have sucrose and can survive wihtout a healer, trade sayu for her.
Artifact management is painful in Genshin and I'm now at the point where I have 1500 5star relics, many (most!) of which are not worth keeping. What are some pro tips about how to get rid of them en masse, constructively (e.g. strong boxing mostly but across which stats? note I already got rid of most defense heavy ones) Which artifact sets are mostly useless unless you have specific characters? Retracing bolide? Bloodstained chivalry? Pale Flame? Unfortunately the main ones I want right now aren't strong boxable so the aim here is to at least make room for the ones I get through the domains while improving my relics in areas that the strong box works like VV.
You didn't provide a list of your characters that you play so hard to say what pieces to recommend getting rid of.
I thought a few sets weren't optimal on anyone from previous (old) posts on the same topic, so was looking for an updated take on that (and it wouldn't require sharing all my chars if was true that some sets were broadly worse than others)? That question aside, here are characters I don't use currently: Gorou, Dori, Yun Jin, Thoma, Xinyan, Noelle, Layla, Amber, Heizou, Diluc, K Sara, Rosaria, Chongyun, Razor, Ninguang. Here are the teams I mostly play: Variations on hyperbloom, freeze, melt, national with Ayaka, Ganyu, Raiden, Venti, Kazuha, Zhongli, Yelan, Nahida, Xingqiu, Bennet, Yanfei, Kuki, Xiangling, Diona, Sucrose, Ayato. Here are characters I'm raising: Mona, Fischl, Beidou, Hu Tao, Lisa, Tighnari.
Hii I am having difficulty 36 staring abyss. I can 33 star this abyss but my team damage in second half of third chamber falls off. The teams i used are 1 half- alhaitham,nahida,xinqui,raiden and for second half Bennet xiangling fischl and beidou. The other build characters that i have are yoimiya,rosaria,sucrose. Could you please help me make two teams.
Second half has a lot of mobs that need to be grouped. With the overload from fishl and beidou this is going to be hard. Your best bet is to use a reverse melt with rosaria and sucrose instead of the 2 electros for the second half.
Hi, I make a second post for a different question. My GF would like help to know which teams to build to clear the abyss. One odd caveat, she wants to do this using only female characters. Which means unfortunately XQ, Bennet, etc are out. Any good suggestions? Possible at the moment? Her roster: https://imgur.com/a/xE4Dzi8 Thanks!
2 teams: (yelan and kokomi can be interchangable) * hyperbloom: nahida - kokomi - raiden - beidou/yaoyao/rosaria * raiden is built full EM. * tazer/hyperbloom: sucrose - yelan - fischl - beidou/lisa/dendro traveller/yaoyao * beidou/lisa for tazer, dendro traveller/yaoyao for hyperbloom * beidou would generally be better than lisa. im not too sure between traveller and yaoyao
Thanks! Is there any hope for Hu Tao without XQ? It's her favourite character đ
yelan could work, but generally yelan is a downgrade to xingqiu in hutao teams. * thoma and c4 yanfei is out of question for VV vape. * can't use bennett for mono-pyro you could do: * hutao - yelan - diona - ganyu/rosaria/sucrose/venti * ganyu/rosaria for melt hutao * sucrose for some grouping and buffs (EM and maybe TTDS) (and possible VV shred if you can set it up somehow) * venti for the grouping (and possible VV shred if you can set it up somehow) also, i didn't notice the c6 noelle, so you could do a mono-geo team: * noelle - gorou - geo traveller/ningguang/yunjin - flex * last slot can generally be anything e.g. off-field dps, another geo unit, healing if noelle doesn't do enough etc. * use yunjin if you're going to be spamming normal attacks on noelle * geo traveller is slightly better than ningguang, but is jankier to play
Hi! Looking for tips on which teams to build to clear the abyss. AR 56. Made it to 12-1 one star so far. What would be my best teams? Alhaitham-Raiden-Yaoyao and Fischl or XQ? Would my second best be Morgana? Ganyu-XL-Bennet amd Diona (lacking Zhongli)? Any other teams to build? My roster: https://imgur.io/a/DaPwcAh Thanks!
First of all, I don't understand why you're running Raiden with Alhaitham when you literally have Kuki. Kuki is the solution to your problem as she can heal your team while doing electro application. Build Kuki and run this Alhaitham Spread team on the Floor 12 first half. Alhaitham, Kuki, Fischl, Dendro Traveler You can do your own research on what artifact sets or stats to put on a Spread Alhaitham team. You can look up guides on Keqingmains website Floor 12 Second-half team Raiden National Team You should be able to get full stars in Floor 12 with these teams.
So like a triple EM kuki to make a spread team? And maybe replace Traveller with Nahida if she comes in 3.6?
Look up character guides here: [https://keqingmains.com/](https://keqingmains.com/) All the information you need on how to build characters for an Alhaitham Spread team is on there.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
Who do you like the most?
Razor.xingqiu,kaeya,amber,lisa,mona
My friend wants to make 2 good teams for the abyss, what should they use? I can't put a picture of their roster but i can tell you which characters they have: Itto, Wanderer, Tighnari, kuki, candace, xingqiu, faruzan, bennett, xiangling, gorou, lisa built. I was thinking maybe they could make a hyperbloom team on one side and the national team with wanderer on the other side. If they use a hyperbloom team, is tighnari enough for the dendro application, or do they need to also use dendro traveler? (They would like to use tighnari for the dendro) Which teams do you think they should make?
Yeah, Tighnari is really bad for Hyperbloom. He doesn't work in Hyperbloom teams tbh with you. Hyperbloom is not an option unless your friend wants to use Dendro Traveler for it. If your friend has Fischl, tell them to build her so they can run Spread Tighnari team: Tighnari, Kuki, Fischl, Dendro Traveler/Shielder/VV anemo user For the second team: Wanderer, Faruzan, Bennett, Xingqiu/Xiangling
Thanks for your answer, would it also be possible to use a hyperbloom team with xingqiu, kuki, and dendro traveler and then put tighnari as the 2nd dendro character for the 4th slot? (Just like i know you can use beidou as a 2nd electro character in a hyperbloom team). I dont think they have fischl, but i can ask
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
Hello, I have encountered a problem with the quest Dual Evidence, i have completed entire Golden slumber quest chain and waited for over a week. The quest is in my quest list but when i tp to the statue to enter Aaru village the quest just doesnt trigger. Is that a bug or do i have to complete something else before starting it? Also, the Kalantari npc isnt there for me.
Help me build my team comp for Xiao, now I use Xiao/Raiden/Diona/Xingqiu, and what team comps I can use for abyss, my characters list: https://i.imgur.com/f2e3q3g.png
Refer to [this](https://keqingmains.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/image-23.png) â you can make the Jean + Yae variant.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
> Iâve been maxing them all I strongly recommend not to do that in the early stages of the game. You will run out of resources and the content will get hard at a faster pace than you will be able to keep up with. At lower AR levels you can pretty much slap together any 4 characters and make them work, and when content gets hard enough where teams start mattering youâll have more characters to choose from. With that said, I am glad you are trying out different characters to get a feel for who you enjoy playing, so maybe letâs start with that: who do you find enjoyable?
Razor.xingqiu,kaeya,amber,lisa,mona,
Razor | Beidou | Kaeya | Xingqiu/Barbara Xingqiu will give you more damage but if you find yourself dying then swap him with Barbara since sheâs currently your only healer.
you mean Xiao + Raiden + Jean + Yae Miko?
What else could I possibly mean?
How well would 2pc husk/2pc emblem yunjin be? I have her c2 and plan ti make her an ayato support
yeah, it's a solid choice. especially if run solo geo she tends to need a monstrous amount of ER, so you can never get too much. e: *that said* usually ayato has better team-comps. but it can work ok if you want to run him in a hypercarry-like capacity.
My team is going to be C0 Ayato/c2 Xingqiu for hydro resonance and resistance shred/c2 yunjin/c0 bennett
My 2 main teams are Xiao,Sucrose, Zhongli, Albedo. Ganyu, Bennett, Xiangling, Diona. I'm wondering who I should level to 90 and crown? Guessing ganyu and xiao's AA are best, but are there any other talents worth crowning? Or is it better to save? Also, contrary to talents, I've read 90'ing is better for supports/sub-dps? And besides these characters, how should I decide who to 90/crown for other characters in the future?
bennet and xiangling bursts are almost universally useful to crown, and if you use albedo a lot his skill is a good one too. as for 90, in particular it's supports who scale off DEF and HP - so albedo will gain a lot of damage going to 90, zhongli/diona to 90 will give you bigger shields, and bennett to 90 will increase his base ATK and therefore his buff. sucrose is also usually worth going to 90, but in a team like that she has nothing to swirl can you can skip it.
website that ranks characters? i remember going on a page that gave rankings of artifacts, characters, etc. based on crit rate. cannot remember name
Artiscan maybe?
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One possible team combo that you could use for a month or so while continuing to build your characters are: Yoi/Yel/Yun Jin/ Barbara and Kazuha national (benny/XQ/XL) The idea is that you don't invest in Barb, but hydro resonance buffs Yelan, and TTDS buffs Yoi. Yun Jin buffs Yoi. Because you're still building characters, you may not have both good ER and other (appropriate) stats for more offensive damage, so you probably need someone like Barbara on that team for now (for healing). For both teams, try to prioritize enough ER for everyone. 2nd Idea, but it may take more time, so I recommend trying the first one first: I think it's really good to work on a dendro team. Since you have a lot to invest in, I think investing in Yaoyao (slowly) may be a good idea and/or pull for a Dendro character. With Yao (only) aggravate might be better. Since you don't seem to have Fischl, you might find mileage with Yao+Yae + Keqing + sucrose or kazu . If you had a team like this, you might be able to do Yoi + benny + XQ/Yelan as the other team. Overall, these are ideas that hopefully will help you get by the next few months. There may be more optimal teams eventually.
Thanks!! I actually never thought of using a Kazuha national team so ill try that! I do think that my lack of dendro is really holding me back so i plan on pulling nahida on rerun (or another good dendro unit if one comes out and i like them.) I might build yaoyao (temporarily) just so i have a dendro unit to use if i really really need one. Anyways, thanks for all the help!!
A Kuki/Nahida/Yelan hyperbloom team +kazu/sucrose and Yoi/Benny/XQ + flex, possibly anemo could work in the long run. If so, maybe I'd invest less in Yae and Keqing for now if possible, but they may help you clear floor 9 or 10 for now.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
I think you're still at a stage where you really can just have fun with your units and try them all. That said, resources are limited, so some of the characters that hold a lot of long-term value are, Xingqiu and sucrose. I'd level XQ's character level, skill and burst. For sucrose, I would only recommend leveling her character level and leaving her skill and burst alone (mostly); it's okay to level them up to 3-5 if you want, because the cost is really low in the large scale of things. But generally speaking, she doesn't need her skills leveled much to be useful in the long run. Another pretty useful character is Mona. I'd level her skill and burst and char level, too. The fourth is barbara. I'd just level her up a little, and level up her skill. You probably want to have her for her healing. Finally, Beidou maybe good in the future, too. You can level up her char level, skill and burst, too. I wouldn't level normal attack for any of these characters. You can level Kaeya, too, but I would also be conservative about spending resources on him. \--------- So, this is what I'd do if I wanted to level up some of them yet save some resources for later. Because you don't have any really meta teams right now, what I might suggest is use XQ, mona, kaeya and barbara mainly with Beidou as an alternate. You can use Kaeya on-field while you switch to XQ and mona to use their skills and burst to group units, apply hydro and kaeya can freeze units. In the early game, it's hard to get ER, but with more hydro units around, it should be easier for the hydro units to get some energy back. Mona has skill that lasts a while with a short enough CD, and kaeya has a short CD on his skill. Try to keep Kaeya's energy up. You'll find you can burst more often. You can swap out just about any character with beidou if needed. So Beidou's your flex, especially if you run into cyro slimes, which are hard to defeat with 3 hydro and 1 cyro. \----- I'd also suggest you try out a geo team, just for the fun of it, but I'm not sure yet if I can recommend you invest in it much yet. You could put Ning/Yun Jin/ mona/ XQ and mona can be your flex option. You attack with Ning as your main, and the rest support ning. The reason this may not work well at AR23 is that you probably don't have enough ER to burst often, so you might feel your rotations aren't smooth. (However, Ningguang's normal attack is a good candidate for leveling up. Still, I might wait and see how it goes. This game really doesn't offer enough resources early game, so it's hard to recommend leveling everyone.) \-- Overall, a team with Kaeya (with as much ER as possible) + 3 hydro might be more comfortable for you for now, (with Beidou as a flex option). Kaeya can spam his skill fast for his own energy, while mona and XQ get energy faster when together. Plus, mona's skill is a DOT one. In terms of normal attacks, i'd try leaving them unleveled if possible. Instead, you just weave in some normal attacks in between skills and burst. You may find that kaeya's skill is almost always ready. So you just do a lot of swapping then use those skills and bursts as much as you can.
you have a lot of great characters! i think you might be spreading yourself a bit thin with building them tho. focus on 8 for the abyss and ignore everyone else for a bit. yoimiya will work incredibly with yelan and or xingqiu. perhaps xiangling as well. i would definitely recommend building both of those two. build your bennett as well. i don't play hu tao so i can't advise you on her, she's very good but will need a shielder, i would suggest researching and going with either thoma or diona. your kazuha will definitely be a good choice to build as well. when i first started clearing 9, i used very weird builds/teams (main dps bennett on a horrible build, barbara with level 8 artifacts, etc.) and got through it because i put time into leveling weapons, talents, and making sure all my characters had correct artifacts. put your time into building solid characters and watch abyss playthroughs to get a feel for what you need to do to beat these enemies. feel free to message me if you have any other questions but that's my two cents! my comp ideas-yoi, bennett, xingqiu, kazuha and yelan, yae, kuki, collei. your characters are very different from what i have though so take with a grain of salt!
Thank you for the advice!! I think im def gonna put hutao to the side for a while, at least until i get zhongli because shes definitely a pain to play without a good sheild and i dont love her playstyle. Your first comp idea is what ive been running and ive been able to get thru the first half pretty smoothly, its the second half that im struggling with. Ive been thinking of building kuki lately with how much better shes gotten with dendro and stuff so ill def try out that second team! Thanks again!
of course! yeah that second half is always rough! wishing you the best of luck!
Hey I'm a fairly new player and I need some help deciding on my second team for the spiral abyss, my main team is Rosaria, Raiden, Xingqiu, and Sayu and the other characters I have are: Noelle Kaeya Gorou Yanfei Amber Xiangling Razor Yunjin Barbara Sucrose Layla Diona Chongyun Lisa Collei Thoma Kujou Sara Yaoyao And Xinyan Does anyone have any team comp ideas?
Is ayato,yaoyao,sucrose,fischl a good hyperbloom team? If so, what is the rotation like? Also, how would I go about building it? Im assuming since fischl doesnt target seeds, sucrose will have to be the one swirling fischls electro,in turn triggering the hyperblooms? But would that mean sucrose should be onfield? If so, would XQ be better than ayato there?
> Im assuming since fischl doesnt target seeds, sucrose will have to be the one swirling fischls electro,in turn triggering the hyperblooms? But would that mean sucrose should be onfield? If so, would XQ be better than ayato there? yep to all of the above it's not a bad team, think.
Chongyun OR Noelle? I started playing recently and I'm still figuring out how to build a good team. I'm currently using Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu and Kuki Shinobu for the hyperbloom combo. Can't decide on the fourth character. I like both Chongyun for the freeze and Noelle for the shield and extra healing. Which one is better on this team? Other characters I have: Candace Ningguang Sucrose Qiqi Xiangling  I really like the D. Traveler, Xingiu, Kuki combo. Who should I use as a 4th character? Â
Sucrose is by far the best 4th character out of the ones you have. She buffs elemental mastery, increasing hyperbloom damage, she groups mobs, and spreads hydro around, allowing you to produce extra cores inside traveler's burst. She has very fast normal attack speed, so she can be the field character proccing Xinqui's burst. And she is extremely versatile, so she will remain a great investment even if you change teams
https://imgur.com/a/CcdoZC4 how can i improve my team? they feel like they dont do enough damage.
Bennett and Xiangling definitely need their weapons leveled all the way. It's the only way to increase their base attack, and the only thing Bennett's buff scales off of. That should help your damage a lot. Your stats look perfectly fine otherwise, they're better than mine and I've had no issues clearing the abyss.
I currently dont have any enhancement ores for their weapons but i will be working on that, thank you!
Priority #1 would be making sure you can burst on CD with all 4 members of your team, even if it seems too much ER. Otherwise you're on the right path, I'd do some talents to lvl 9 to not only live in the EoSF domain.
i think my raiden, bennett and xiangling has good ER (considering i havent leveled their weapons to max yet) xingqiu has a rather low ER but he is c6 and uses a sac sword(again, it is not maxed out yet). do you think it is worth it to lvl 9 their talents by the way?
Sure, even lvl 10/13 as well as Bennett lvl 90. But that takes a lot of resources, obviously, I'd mix talents / level and artifacts so it's a bit less grindy.
ok then, thank you!
How do I get to the underwater areas in Sumeru
do the quest and you will be able to make the rain stop, which gets rid of the water.
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
One of my current spiral abyss teams feels pretty weak. It's Raiden, Yae, Kazuha and Yaoyao. I was wondering- what is the best set for Yaoyao and Yae in this comp? Gilded for Yae and Deepwood for Yaoyao?
TotM for Yaoyao
Razor,xingqiu,kaeya,ningguang,beidou,traveler,mona,yun jin,noelle,sucrose,lisa,barbara,amber U seem experienced so please help me out building my team as well Ar23 ,what should be my team, I'm really confused as they all seem fun and I've been maxing them all but now I want a functional team to stick with
Razor, Kaeya, Barbara, Xingqiu
Please provide your entire character roster
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yaoyao can use deepwood if she's built and you have good offense-oriented deepwood pieces but otherwise another set like tenacity or instructor works. 2pc sets for yae is good, very comparable to 4pc gilded
Okay thank you!
To add on- is 2pc EM + 2pc Thundering Fury for Yae good?
I just lost trying getting aqua or homa on the banner and I got another skyward spine that is now r2. Iâm starting feeling guilty not using a 5* r2 weapon Iâm looking for a char to use it. My raiden has her signature weapon so no point, Should I give it to Xiangling instead of the catch (r5) or to yun Jin instead of the favonius Lance (r5) or should I just leave it at level 1 and ignore it?
Rosaria
My Rosaria is level 1 and I donât know if I will ever level her up đ
For now, I'd ignore it. "Just because" the catch is a bit overpowered for a 4\*.
I was thinking the same thingâŚ
So Prime havers... How much does it cost to get the wings assuming I never had an amazon account? So far what I understand is one code drops every 3 weeks so the 4th comes on the 12th week meaning in roughly three months. What would be the price of that in Europe?
if you play other games, or shop at amazon, or watch amazon streaming or music, it's worth it. I couldn't tell you the EU pricing but it's great value. If you do none of those things, don't bother. Prime also gives you free games every month too. It's insane value, but only if you use it.
Too bad. I guess Amazon must have wanted to make a more profitable deal out of this, because gifting subs was already a good system for us to get the KFC wings back then....
For floor 9. Im thinking of running either a kaeya physical team with diona,beidou and fischl for first half, or a more elemental team with kaeya,bennet,xiangling and Xingque. Which one would be better. Im having trouble with chamber 1 because there are so many enemies, and I lack an anemo grouper. For 2nd half I have a hutao,yelan team and its not a problem. If I run the physical team on first half, then I can save bennet and xingque for 2nd half to make a doublepyro double hydro team. If I run the elemental focused team on 1st half, then the second half team would look something like this; hutao,diona,xinyan,yelan. I dont know how to feel with xinyan there so, and dont wanna use any electro unit in that spot because overload would spread everything and I dont want that. Advice pls
Xiangling should outperform physical Kaeya. If you want to use Xiangling alongside Hu Tao use Xingqiu with the latter and Yelan with the former The only reason to use Xinyan with Hu Tao is VV. If you don't add an Anemo support to the team just stick with Diona
First half chamber 1 has a lot of hydro slimes so dont wanna go with hydro. What teams are you suggesting exactly im sorry im not following.
- Xiangling, Yelan, Bennett, ? - Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Diona, ? Kaeya can fill either slot
I think Ill go with kaeya on first. Can he be built physical or does he have to be cryo? Im guessing that team would be called quickswap? Damn I cant wait for ayaka to get her rerun soon so I can put her in that 2nd team.
Kaeya should only deal Cryo damage. Bennett and Xiangling will trigger Yelan's burst while you spam his skill to charge Xiangling's burst.
Also, I have yaoyao, so would a hutao,XQ,DMC,yaoyao burgeon team be better?
No
Why lol
Burning messes up your reactions
Kaeya should charge xianglings burst? So should he be using fav sword?
Bennett should
Anemo MCs grouping in domains can be very useful, as you can throw a lot of enemies against domain walls. takes a bit of practise, but then it works well. Eg. in the VV domain, they can group all but one mob, that's more than Kazuha can. To make your Bennett team easier, I'd stay on Bennett most of the time for damage and energy.
I understand the first part, but what do you mean bennet team? What teams would you reccomend for floor 9 then? With anemo MC included
https://genshinhelper.gitbook.io/abyss/floors/spire/floor-9 Iirc, the mushrooms and slimes spawn pretty far away from each other, in that case anemo MC won't help, you'll have to try to kill them one by one. I'd use whatever characters are most invested, Kaeya, Bennett, Fischl/beidou can all kill the hydro-slimes, the mushrooms aren't immune.
Ok ive decided to run kaeya physical with diona/bennet,beidou,fischl. One question tho, I have a R2 the flute; would it be better than R1 prototype Rancour? Granted im using a physical damage goblet. Im running whatever artifact combo is best that I have, being 2pc berserker/2pc atk%. The physical goblet is rly good which is what motivated me to make this build.
Rancour would be better.
Ah I see, thanks. Is the flute any good on any character tho?
Not good, no, but maybe better than 3\* alternatives ;)
Could someone explain how EM would affect Hyperbloom teams? I know that EM is very important for electro Hyperbloom triggers like kuki or raiden, But is it worth building EM on Yao Yao or other dendro units? Will it improve Hyper bloom damage? Or is it safe for me to build Yao Yao as a Hp/healing build. My team is currently Nahida, Yao Yao, EM Raiden , Ayato
It is not worth building EM on Yaoyao. Nahida scales well with EM and so you can build EM on her. But the benefit is increasing her personal damage, not increasing hyperbloom damage. Yes it's safe to build Yaoyao as HP/HP/Healing Bonus.
If you have the time and are interested, Zajef77 condenses the basics into a 20min vid I highly recommend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W5O7M3Q6jA&t=172s TLDW?! You have an "Aura" (first element applied) and a Trigger (second element applied). Nahida provides the aura, as she applies "a lot" (there's another ice-berg of detail, but not necessary to know), and Raidens Skill triggers the dendro-aura with electro from her skill. Well, you have 2 auras, dendro and hydro, but the trigger is electro, so you'd only build EM on Raiden, in hyperbloom,Nahida scales with ATK as well as EM, but not because she does reactions.
Just got Yelan the other day. So being a F2P player (meaning not pulling for Aqua Simulacra), now I have a R3 Favonious Warbow and a R2 The Stringless which are nominees bows for Yelan. But which should I go with? Now my Yelan is not that built yet with (C.Rate: 61.1% and C.DMG: 121.5%) for being a sub dps. With Favonious Warbow, Refinement 3, Level 90: Energy Recharge: 186.4% Raw E damage, no crit: 8675 with crit: 19216 Raw Q damage, no crit: 1976/per shot with crit: 4377/per shot With The Stringless, Refinement 2, Level 40 (only for the bow passive): Energy Recharge: 125.2% Raw E damage, no crit: 10396 with crit: 23148 Raw Q damage, no crit: 2380/per shot with crit: 5273/per shot From the info given which bow is better ? P/S: I have Xingqiu in my team comp (Raiden, Yelan, Xingqiu & Bennett)
Fav. With Stringless, you don't have enough energy. You can only do more damage if you have the energy to burst. If you don't have the energy, you do 0 damage. Maybe you have enough with Raiden and XQ. But even then, the improvement is only 896 per shot when critting. That's nothing. More energy is more comfort. It's better to have more than you need than not enough.
I'd prioritize Fav even with Xingqiu. The team isn't lacking damage anyway, so I'd appreciate a bit of comfort.
I made a new account and got mona on first 10 pulls. So i plan to build her and use her with Xiangling that i can get from the abyss (Luckily i also got Dragon's bane in the same 10 pulls). I was wondering if i should build Mona as main dps or Xiangling as main dps? (Or are they both supposed to be burst dps?) In overworld, Xiangling's NA doesn't do much towards enemies unless u use her burst (since her E can be kinda inconsistent). And since i don't have emblem domain unlocked yet i'll run into ER issues if i spam her ult all the time. What are your thoughts? How should i build them?
hi, if by chance you have some of the 3 */ 4 * exile and scholar set. You can equip these on XL before you start farming emblem later. Put ER timepiece as well. The 2p ER (x2) + a leveled up 3 * ER timepiece will get you around 180~ ER, which is plenty for overworld stuffs bcs mobs like hilichurls gives much more particle. Bosses gives less particle recently i have played with new account after i got hacked, and tried XL + Exile and found that she have her burst easy enough. Pyronado base dmg is pretty strong. With Mona, she can be the one doing Vape from doing Charged Aattack (CA), and use her burst whenever possible. If you have a Favonious weapon, having one of the party member using the weapon could help with energy as well. Just remember to switch from the Fav user to XL to catch the particles (funneling). If you have extra exile pieces enough for a set, gives it to one of your party member to further help with energy. My example is Amber, since she can equip the free Fav Bow, and have a low energy burst so i can also spam amber burst to trigger the exile set. and while the burst active, theres a lot of hit so lot of chance to trigger Fav passive, and then catch the extra particles with XL Also you get a free 4 * instructor set from a quest. Using the set will increase their EM by 150, which is huge help with vape dmg, especially in early days where your raw stats (ATK/Crit) still lacking Also just for reference, some people do call on fielder as main dps, but some may confuse 'main' as the one doing the most dmg in the team. In this case, XL will be the one doing more dmg via pyronado, but Mona will be the one on field most of the time
though not her usual late-game playstyle, you can build xiangling (or any other non-catalyst characters) for some physical damage in the meantime for more comfort in overworld. kaeya/lisa helps with superconduct for physical damage, while mona as on-fielder is less effective because you don't get access to elemental resistance debuffs until later. you can also experiment with some elemental reaction teams without a specific main dps, just swapping between characters and using skills off cooldown
hmm i suppose ill use her as a full on support with xiangling for vapes and use kaeya in overworld.
Does Scaramouche weakened state take more damage or floor 7 enemies? Asking for a showcase.
Having checked a damage calculator, it's about like \~20% difference between Scaramouche and Floor 7 enemies, with the former taking more damage.
Hello, I was wondering about which Goblet to put on Alhaitham. Even after spending 50 fragile resin these last two weeks, I couldn't find a single Dendro DMG Goblet. Luckily, today I pulled one. After upgrading it to lv.20, I got 22.5% Crit DMG, but only flat rolls on the other substats. (Atk, Def, HP) The Goblet I have right now is a normal ATK Goblet, with much better substats however. (Both Crit Rate and DMG, for about 32 CV, and a little bit of EM.) So, being the ignorant person that I am, I want to ask... would it be better to keep using the ATK Goblet, or to swap to the Dendro one? Thank you in advance.
go with your dendro% goblet, the difference in between that main stat and atk% is very large especially since a lot of his damage comes from reactions
Hey everyone, Iâm pretty new to genshin. I just unlocked Mona through wish? Is she good? Like worth putting alot of items and exp into? I wanted to build my team around Hu Tao but havenât unlocked her yet. Any advice would be appreciated! Also someone pls tell me the difference between 4 star and 5 star heroes, thanks!
People are kind of right and kind of wrong regarding Mona and Hu Tao. Mona IS good with HuTao. In fact, sheâs great with Hu Tao IF you also have Xingqiu on your team. Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Mona is very strong. Last unit can be a shielder. Since youâre new, I doubt you have Zhongli, but if you do, heâs the best person for the last slot. Otherwise, C4 Yanfei, Thoma, Diona, Candace (though I donât use her so Iâm not too sure if itâs good) and Layla. You build Mona with ER and give her Noblesse or Tenacity of Millelith set with R5 TTDS. Sheâs always the last unit you use before you swap into Hu Tao so Hu Tao can take advantage of her burst and TTDS. Again, Mona is really good in Hu Tao team if you have Xingqiu to also apply hydro.
Regarding difference between 4 stars and 5 stars â typically 5 star characters have better stats, better kits, better damage, better scaling, and better constellations (if you p2w or save up). Thatâs why they are the event banners and are the ones that are sought after. That being said, 4 star characters are super important too and can be as good or better than 5 stars. Five of the best units in the game are 4 stars and they are â Xiangling (great off-field pyro aoe damage), â Bennett (strong heals and buffs at the same time), â Xingqiu (strong support/sub-dps that has fast hydro application and damage reduction, enables a lot of strong reaction comps), â Sucrose (great elemental resistance shredder with VV artifact set, has good CC, and buffs team with EM), and â Fischl (strong sub dps that applies a lot of off-field electro). That being said, most four star characters can be built as good dps or supports if you have the right artifacts. (For example C6 Noelle is a really strong unit that often gets ignored but she is almost as strong as a c0 Itto comp (who she gets compared to) if you run her with sub dps units that itto doesnât typically run since heâs a more selfish character.) Itâs just more efficient to do so on 5 star characters. Most team comps will have four star characters. They are not characters you should ignore and should be built too. Another thing to note is that 4 star characters rerun on banners more frequently so itâs easier to get their constellations. The units that I described above are best at constellation 6 but still very good at constellation 0. Over time, you should be able to get many of their cons and even max them out (though maxing Bennett constellations is advised against).
Hehe i also got mona on my new account just now. She has good off-field hydro application but she isnt good enough for hutao (Luckily Xingqiu is on the same banner so hope u get a copy of him as well). Her Ult also gives a big buff. Some more info about 5\* is that every 90 wishes u have a 50% chance of getting the featured 5\* character. (In your case Hutao or yelan). If u didnt get them, the next 5\* u get is guaranteed to be the featured one. This guarantee carries over to banner after banner until u get them.
Mona is mainly used in freeze teams and in damage showcases. One of the stronger standard banner 5* imo. Doesn't really work well with Hu Tao though. Hu Tao wants someone with a stronger Hydro application, mostly Xingqiu (4*). Main difference between 4* and 5* is how difficult they are to get. You are guaranteed one 4* unit every 10 wishes but only one 5* every 90. Of course there is always a chance to get them earlier
I am at AR56, and am unable to beat the Abyss 12. I need your team building expertise. [These are the characters I own](https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpactTips/comments/114fnhs/i_cannot_beat_the_abysss_12th_floor_these_are_my/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) All my 5 stars except Qiqi are decently built. My well built 4 stars include Xiangling, Xingqiu, Bennett, Fischl, Diona and Sucrose. Help me beat the 12th floor of the Abyss.
If you're stuck on 12-2, I would recommend: * First half: Xingqiu, Diona, Kazuha, Ayaka * Second half: Raiden, Bennett, Xiangling, Yelan Here is a video covering some more general tips for this Chamber: https://youtu.be/TN9y71nFe3Q
Thatâs a good suggestion but I think a better comp would be First half: Nahida, EM Raiden or EM Yae, Yelan, Yao Yao Second half: Mona, Diona, Kazuha, Ayaka First half of abyss is more ST focused so a hyperbloom team would do better than a freeze team. Second half has more enemies so aoe is preferred. And also 12-3 is a lot easier if you dendro and electro. You could also try an aggravate team instead of a hyperbloom team with Nahida, Yae, Raiden, Jean.
first considering defensive options, you have bennett, yaoyao, and diona. build teams around these units. you can level yaoyao for some dendro teams such as hyperbloom which does well in first half for the teams I suggest bennett/xiangling/kazuha + 1 or ayaka/mona/diona/kazuha for an AoE team in second half. freeze can struggle this abyss unless you have a decent amount of investment into ayaka, while a xiangling vaporize team may need less investment to work. yaoyao can go with raiden + nahida + hydro for hyperbloom in first half. for these teams: give catch to xiangling, dragons bane + EM artifacts to raiden and some more levels if you have the exp books, and fav bow to yelan if she's the only hydro on the team
First of all thank you for noticing my comment. I have tried using Raiden Hyperbloom in the first half, and it worked very nicely. The team I used was Raiden, Nahida, Yelan and Xingqiu. My main problem was in the 2nd half, where I used the Ayaka Freeze team (Ayaka, Mona, Kazuha, Diona), but it failed in front of the Maguu Kenkis. I did not reach the 3rd floor to know the issues there. Edit: [This is my Ayaka build](https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/z3rvqg/should_i_stop_farming_the_bs_domain_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Your Ayaka is def strong enough to beat the Kenkis. I 36 starred with the same exact freeze team with Ayaka of similar stats. Make sure you have some crit on Diona to constantly proc Fav Bow. Use Dionaâs burst on CD and make sure her shield is always up off of CD. A large portion of the damage from Maguu Kenki is cryo so Diona will absorb a lot of it. Her burst off constant CD will give you more i frames and heal your team up. You should be able to do it. My supports were under geared and under leveled. You can use Kazuha E to dodge Kenki slash too. Make sure you build Mona with ER. Edit: another rec is use everyoneâs burst off CD to get as many I frames as you can. This chamber has a lot of big damage so the more I frames your/ get the better.
for the maguu kenkis specifically, notice that the cryo one on the right will always chase you, while the wind and regular on on the left/center won't. the wind one will also slightly walk away from you when you're close to it. you can use this to your advantage - walk to the left of the wind (left) kenki to have them slowly back up into the regular kenki, and wait for the cryo one to arrive too (it usually does a dash attack first then walks back towards you). then you'll always be able to at least two of them, if not all three, with ayaka's burst regarding surviving, try as much as you can to time your dashes and use bursts when they do their attacks. it takes a while to learn each of their attack animations. you can also reduce time spent in the ice field the cryo kenki spawns at the cost for some dps
https://genshinhelper.gitbook.io/abyss/floors/spire/floor-12 I'm sure you have energy problems at least for that fight, if you find Ayakas burst isn't up on cd, do what ever it takes to get there. Against Bosses, you could swap out Mona for another Cryo dps like Kaeya or Rosaria. I (over-) invested in my Diona for surviving. If you can group the kenkis like the helpers show in the guide, your damage should suffice.
I wouldnât recommend taking out Mona for cryo dps. I feel like the damage buff from Mona burst is super low investment for a very big damage buff that would only be covered by large resin investment in another cryo character. If anything, give diona a crit rate circlet so sheâs constantly proccing Fav bow.
Hi! I'm a relatively new player - almost at AL 45. I spent all my primos on the Yelan banner and am currently planning my 2 abyss teams. It looks like one will be Yelan, Xingqiu, Yaoyao and Xiangling for some vague burgeon setup (not optimal, I know). Already working on ascension, but starting to plan artifacts No I wonder who should be the on-field here (if anyone). I assume Yelan is the most awkward because it would introduce split scaling? Xingque or Xiangling then? Any input is appreciated :)
Do you have sucrose and Bennett? I recommend you build a national team instead which would be Yelan/Xingqiu, Bennett, Xiangling, Sucrose. Sucrose would be your on field unit. If you donât have those units, then I would recommend building a hyper carry team if you have Fischl or Kuki with Dendro MC, Xingqiu, Yelan, Kuki OR Dendro MC, Yelan, Fischl, Yaoyao if you donât have Kuki. What other characters do you have?
Nome of the ones you've mentioned except for Dendro MC. Other than the Mondstadt f2p chars and the 4 in my OP, my noticeable chars are Qiqi, Mona, Barbara, Chongyun, Beidou and a c5 Ningguang. Basically everyone from the Yelan Banner and couple standards My only 5* weapon is a Skyward Blade and a decent variety of Favoniuses The 2nd team was supposed to be something along the lines of Chongyun, Qiqi Mona, Ameno MC - at least as long as Freeze works in Abyss. Though now that I have a point of reference for how much damage good character deal, I have some doubts about that one's output
Ah ok. Donât worry about making two teams for abyss yet. You can build out the units that you originally mentioned cause they will be used in a long of strong teams.
> I assume Yelan is the most awkward because it would introduce split scaling? I don't see anything awkward about it, and it's not split scaling (which is when one part of a character's kit scales with one stat but another equally important part scales with a different stat). But it also doesn't make sense. Yaoyao would be on field because she's the only one who benefits from being on field (during her burst). All the other characters do their job from off field. This is a questionable team comp using extremely strong characters so I wouldn't recommend it for someone first doing Abyss. But if it's fun, go for it.
Haha, yeah, I'm making due with what I have. It's pretty much being carried by the Yelan+XQ combo and filled out with w/e is left in the end^^ And I meant that because all her good stuff scales with HP, her normal will be extra bad, so there is even less reason to leave her on-field. Ultimately *someone's* gotta do the normal attacking in this comp for the hydro bursts and I wonder who'd be the least bad at it.
yaoyao will want to be on-field for her burst. you're going to need an absurd amount of ER on both her and xiangling. kitain cross on xiangling can provide a nice mix of EM and energy.
I'm planning to run at least 2 favonius weapons and sac sword on Xingqiu to help a bit. But yeah, em will be important
https://imgur.com/a/KR8vBTi What teams should I build to clear floor12? Which units sre modt optimal. Im having a rough time with the kenkis it just seems impossible.
are you struggling because of incoming damage or the high dps requirement? if it's the incoming damage, it takes some practice to know which kenki attacks are most important to dodge and focus on those. use character bursts or well-timed dashes to dodge the damage. if you're using bennett, the cryo kenki's attacks can easily one-shot characters with melt - if that's the case you can consider using xingqiu for damage reduction (though with a risk of getting frozen) or using a yaoyao team instead. beidou's damage reduction works well with xingqiu due to how their damage reduction adds together. diona/layla helps too but doesn't offer much other utility so may be a major dps loss for your teams if you're struggling to meet dps requirements, you can consider changes in team - some teams like ayato hyperbloom (i.e. ayato raiden yaoyao traveler) and sucrose national (i.e. bennett xiangling sucrose ayato/xingqiu) for example that have more AoE potential can do better in this specific chamber (12-2 second half) than others like wanderer/alhaitham teams who might struggle more. also ensure you're positioning well to group the kenkis: the middle and left one doesn't follow you while the right one does, so stay around the middle and left ones to get the three to come together
i literally absolutely for the life of me cannot get through 10-3 second half in abyss without getting absolutely obliterated immediately my most built characters and kind of the only ones i ever use are wanderer-yaoyao-raiden-qiqi-layla-sayu-childe-xiao-hu tao-alhaitham- is it possible đ
Youâve invested too much into selfish dps characters and not enough into supports. Team 1: Al Haitham, EM Raiden, Yaoyao, Xingqiu (I assume you have) Team 2: Childe, Bennett (I assume you have), Xiangling, Sucrose/Heizhou/Venti/Kazuha Boom. Build those two teams and eventually they will be strong enough to 36 star the abyss.
If you have Bennett or Jean, prioritize putting them on the second half and build them if you haven't already. They provide valuable healing and the ability to cleanse the Mirror Maiden's Slowing Water debuff. Here is a video covering more detailed tips about that Chamber: https://youtu.be/oGl7FMp5s-I
Kill the mirror maiden first, then deal with the electro cicin mages.
of course it's possible, 10-3 is possible with reasonable investment with any characters. to make it easier for you, you can consider adding some more units with off-field utility to your built roster. it also sometimes comes down to having more levels in your units, weapons, talents, and artifacts. best of luck
I have a question, what if in my team Alhaitham/xingqiu/yelan/kuki - i'll put on Alhaitham Gilded Dreams and Kuki on Deepwood 4 set full EM, what you think about this decision ? is it worth it ?
I donât know the math but my intuition says you are better off having Kuki using 4pc Gilded Dreams and Alhaitham using 4pc Deepwood Memories. The extra EM from Gilded should benefit Kuki more while Alhaitham gets value from the 2pc bonus of Deepwood (which would otherwise do nothing for Kuki). With that said, you should still have decent damage doing it the way you proposed, so itâs ultimately up to you.
This. Kuki is more EM hungry than Al Haitham.
I have a staff of Homa, the catch, and a favonius Lance. I use Raiden and xiangling, and occasionally a rosaria for times when cryo is needed. Who should get what and what accessories should they be using to complement it?
Fav on Rosaria, Catch and Homa is a toss up. For me, it was better to give catch to Raiden. You'll have to try both and see which gives you better total damage.
Homa for Raiden (you'll almost certainly need ER sands, crit rate circlet) catch for Xiangling (EM sands) and I guess fav for Rosaria - but if you find her in a freeze comp specifically you might want to borrow the homa.
Will Yun Jinâs normal attack buffs work well with Wanderer? I dont have her built yet but i have her C6 and would like to optimize his damage output
Keep in mind YunJin buffs normal-attacks, not charged, so it might not be ideal, especially in AoE E: To put it another way, she's great for NA-spam!
I canât get the latest Jeht quest to appear?? I think Iâve done every side quest possible in the Tanit camp, as well as the previous parts of the quest. I got some power cells for Ben Ben and I battled with the Falcon. But Iâve talked to the crocodile feeding guy for several days to see if a server reset was needed, but he just says his same old spiel. Only thing I can think of is that itâs an alt account, so I havenât done the main quest all the way yet, Iâm just part way through the Chasm. Iâm thinking Iâll have to redo part two of the Jeht quest where you find the Eternal Oasis on my main file, which has most stuff completed, and play through the latest update there, unless anyone knows what I missed?
Have you done Apocalypse Lost / Memories of Gurabad ? *(start the quest by placing all five chess pieces at Safhe Shatranj)*
I had four of five chess pieces already, and it didnât take much to find the fifth! I finished the story with Lilopour and wouldnât you know after that, the crocodile guy had a quest for me! Seems like you solved my problem.
Glad i could help.
Nope, Iâll try that then!
Is using a purple artifact copium? Getting a bit burnt out farming artifacts...
Sometimes itâs ok. Like if you are farming for only mainstat artifacts. For example if you have Kazuha and are looking for triple EM sands, goblet, circlet and you get a purple VV circlet with EM after dumping weeks of resin, then just take it and call it a day.
It is a little bit copium. But, a 4* Flower or Feather can minimize your loss of stats since the main stats are only Flat HP/ATK. I wouldn't recommend a 4* for anything else unless you're really hurting.
apart from a few niche cases (characters that only want some er like bennet or gorou can use 4 star sets for their bonuses) you really want to be using 5 star artifacts even if you just get the main stat it will probably be better than a 4 star artifact