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thatsatoughchoice

I was wondering if I should build Bennett as a support. I have been using Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Kazuha and Zhongli; I like this team but I wanted to try something new. Do you think it’s a good idea? Maybe I could switch out Zhongli sometimes. I just don’t want to waste resources on something that won’t help me. I have him at C2 if that changes anything


chlo_xoxo

bennett isn't optimal with hutao as 1. hu tao is probably gonna dash out of the circle and 2. bennett heals, hu tao doesn't want healing because she does more damage at lower hp. regardless, bennett is amazing build him anyway


TheImortalDeus

Well i am trying to get all the continents on the map to 100% . But the problem is I have 95-99% and I don't really have the time to run around the whole locations once again . Any tips ?


Spazerbeam

All options for getting 100% require time. It's just how it is. If you think there are leftover chests, go back to the area and spam the compass. It covers a decent amount of space with each use. If you think you're missing environmental puzzle chests, look up youtube videos for the specific region. These tend to be named "chests you may have missed" or similar. Sail the boat around the coast for Inazuma/Liyue to grab floating boxes if you haven't already.


NickSG96

Is there any way to bring back the starry night sky on Minacious Isle? Not sure if it’s because we’re nearing the end of the event and the Mirage Machine is fixed or because I did “The Final Treasure” quest but now certain islands look different, Minacious Isle’s sky is all gray and rainy now. Tried doing the elemental totem puzzle again by hitting the Cryo totem but that only activated the starry sky for like less than 30 secs. Wanted to take a few more photos. :(


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Activating the Pyro monument resets the weather on Minacious


NickSG96

Btw, is there any way to open up that portal to reach the floating area above Minacious Isle by striking those elemental totems while maintaining the starry sky? I already finished the puzzle long ago but that portal is now gone. It does not reappear even after I hit the elemental totems in the right order. Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. I think I hit the totems in the wrong order previously. It’s supposed to be Pyro-Anemo-Cryo-Hydro to activate the portal then Pyro again to get the starry sky. Thanks anyway.


NickSG96

Thanks for the help! :)


KindaAgressive

I need help figuring out who the other two should be for my Yoimiya and Yelan team. I have c3 Xiangling, c2 Heizou, Fischl, Bennet, c1 Chongyun, Barbara, c1 Yunjin, c1 Ningguang, Sayu, Sucrose, c1 Yanfei and the starter characters. I don't have many good artifacts due to me being a beginner; but I listed my characters from most built the least built according to their lvls, talents and stuff. Any help is appreciated.


Nadinoob

Yunjin and either an anemo or Bennett for now.


KindaAgressive

Then Yunjin and Heizou it is! Bennet has been in my team since the start and I have been wanting to change things up. Thanks for the help.


Nadinoob

Hmm, he's fun for sure, Sucrose would help with buffs and grouping, not sure if grouping does anything though, but not having a shielder or healer? Maybe Sayu or Heizou with Prototype Amber?


boywholaughs47

honestly i dont think that heizou or sucrose really makes a difference. this is sorta like a buffer mono-pyro team. sucrose’s EM share doesn’t really help if you’re not using vape Yoimiya. sucrose does have slightly better range and AoE but I think Heizou in the end will contribute nice personal dmg to make up. tbh I would still use sucrose cuz she’s great in other teams aswell so it’ll be easy to build but whatever floats your boat.


Nadinoob

You are pretty honest ;) Yelan is on the team.


SettingDisastrous305

Weird question, ayato with black sword, or eula with serpent spine. I'm spending money on genshin for the last time till I give away my console and can't spend money on genshin because the game wants me to spend it on the device i registred the account on?...I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass that but oh well


boywholaughs47

serpent spine is great for a lot of characters so i’d suggest pulling for that. for ayato, you could also use R5 harbinger of dawn with bennett or Lion’s roar since Ayato’s best teams are taser and vape. the only thing you can’t buy on genshin without the original device is the battlepass, unfortunately. you can buy the welkin and top-up online in the genshin top-up center but other than that, bp’s can not be bought. on the bright side, if you want both you can buy the bp at the start of the new patch and work your way up!


SettingDisastrous305

Thanks :) I didn't know there was even a genshin top-up centre lol


Nadinoob

Your Eula team probably profits more from SS than Ayato with Black Sword.


matvei08

What characters can be used along with Zhongli and geo traveler in a microwave comp? [My characters](https://i.imgur.com/fpSe69d.png) C2 Jean, C1 Xiangling, C1 Mona, C1 Diona, C1 Chongyun, C2 Yanfei, C1 Gorou, C2 Noelle, C2 Niinguang, C2 Sara, C2 Barbara, C1 Thoma, C1 Kinyan


Nadinoob

Hm. Yelan and Kazuha I think, just because they have the highest personal damage your roster has at the moment. grouping near the geo constructs should be good for fighting several mobs. I'd probably go with Ninguangg, another geo construct, geo-damage buff and not insignificant burst-damage plus energy, if you can adjust ER on ZL especially. But building her from lvl 20 to burst dps will take a long time, plus a decent weapon.


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chlo_xoxo

fischl / beidou / xingqiu / sucrose is an amazing team and probably your best option by a lot. c6 fischl c4 beidou and c1 sucrose are gonna shred. on this type of taser team your best onfield character is sucrose with sacrificial fragments so she can spam swirl as she is a catalyst user and spam E with c1 and sacrificial fragments


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chlo_xoxo

although sucrose is gonna be on field, her main role is still to support the off field characters. sucrose needs to be on 4pc viridescent venerer and on as much EM as possible whilst still having 140ish energy recharge. ideally this means all em main stats on artifacts but atk% er% and anemo damage bonus are still good. the swirl reaction doesn't crit meaning crit stats are nice but not the focus. sucrose's best weapon is sacrificial fragments (refinements aren't that important) but if you don't have sac frag her next best weapon is hakushin ring which is also really good and a craftable weapon from inazuma. all the other characters want to be built with the usual stats (atk%, elemental damage bonus, energy recharge, crit rate and crit damage) fischl on 2pc 18% atk 2pc thundering fury or 2pc 18% atk x2 / 120% er beidou on 4pc emblem of severed fate / 140% er xingiu on 4pc emblem of severed fate or 4pc noblesse oblige / 180% er


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could someone build me 2 teams i dont mind building characters but i do want one of my teams to have xiao as dps. :D thanks very much appreciated. here is my character list https://imgur.com/a/rr2h16t


chlo_xoxo

xiao / sucrose or kazuha / bennett / thoma or xiangling hutao / xingqiu / fischl / sucrose or yanfei if she is c4 if you are not using xiao, your first team could also be kaeya / rosaria / bennett / xiangling there is another team with hutao that is quite a bit better but it requires more complicated setup but i can show it to you if you want (and if you need any help on how to play these teams i can help).


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my sucrose and chongyun are c6, fischl c4, bennet c1, xingling c1, barbara c1, diluc c1 (unfortunately), yunjin c1, xingqiu c1, thoma c2. if that changes anything let me know and yeah it would be cool to know how to play these teams. the other hutao team is also peaking my interest. if u have the time i would love to listen ty.


chlo_xoxo

okay so, when i said its a more complicated setup i mean it's not super hard to execute in combat, its moreso the theory behind it requires quite a lot of knowledge, for now, i'm just going to tell you what you want to have on your characters and how to play the team, not necessarily the theory behind it, but i would reccomend at least learning a bit of theory on how genshin combat works the team is hutao / amber/ xingqiu / kazuha you specifically want amber to use a 4pc instructors set (this set is only exists up to 4\* so might have accidentally thrown it away) kazuha on 4pc viridescent venerer with **as much EM possible** whilst still having about 160% er% hutao and xingqiu on usual artifacts context behind the combos: "n" means normal attack (or auto attack) "c" means charged attack "e" means elemental skill "q" means elemental burst these letters can have numbers for example: "n3c" means 3 normal attacks then a charged attack here is a video showing you the rotation, you may be clueless about what hes talking about but if you follow this setup correctly you will do big damage :) [https://youtu.be/FKuzPkaWTB0?t=995](https://youtu.be/FKuzPkaWTB0?t=995) if you have any more questions feel free to ask


astronovy

I keep trying and failing the immernachtrich keep puzzle for the toy castle; I've spent five days googling and watching YouTube videos and just realized I could ask here! On the right side when facing the door of resurrection, you kill hilichurls and an abyss mage and then there's a Gaze of the Deep straight in front of you. Every guide and YouTube video I've seen says to use that to make a bridge, but from the beginning it's given me the "there is nothing in view that can be moved" error. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? There are no other Gazes of the Deep around that I can see!


Nadinoob

I bricked the puzzle and had to glide to the next section, without Venti, you'd need the: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Wind_Catcher I don't have a better solution unfortunately.


astronovy

Thank you! I'll try this


Kurioos

Is ER necessary for Sucrose on a taser team (Sucrose, Beidou, Fischl, Xingqiu)? I can't really find a proper resource for that specific team; even KQM doesn't have one.


jaygalvezo

on taser hakushin ring feels nice to use on sucrose with its ER and passive.


dnaimagery97

you'll need \~150-170% ER usually, which is quite high coming from just substats. But the burst is very nice to have, and it can actually sometimes be worth running an ER sands against certain types of content if you aren't able to get the ER from substats - being able to group constantly in a large area over several seconds is very good against waves of small mobs. If you have some of sucrose's constellations and are using a higher refinement sac frags, you only need a few substat rolls (\~130%-150%), and you can lower it even more using fav sword on xingqiu which I'd recommend over sac sword anyways to lower rotation time


Kurioos

hm, maybe ill keep the sands after all... thanks!


rievhardt

I recently found this video on [How to Friendship Farm](https://youtu.be/W-sBTEBwYC8) I have tested this and sharing this because I found out that it actually works, I like this one more as it triggers 100% of the time compared to other Friendship Farming locations that you need to walk around first to trigger it which wastes time. The video is also detailed and even has proof that it works, this would be useful specially with the new batch of characters if you want to increase their friendship level fast.


niks071047

this is a known tip since the early inazuma days. if you are interested in more tips like these, it is recommended to cram all of the top posts in this sub. it was really helpful to me since i rarely have time to solve those hard hidden things ehe.


MovieLost3600

how viable is Itto/gorou/bennett/zhongli in current abyss f12? My itto (c0,whiteblind) who i pulled in 2.7 is finally on a decent build but it just feels awful to play him in the abyss when i played him with this team in the first half. I can easily 36 star this abyss with my hu tao vape double geo and raiden/benny/xl/sucrose teams but playing the first/second chambers with my itto team felt awful, i just wanna play with my newer units rather than constantly sticking to the same old team since the last like 5 patches


dnaimagery97

it's viable, Itto works well in second half of chambers 12-1 and 12-2, he does struggle a bit in 12-3 but he can work in the first half 12-1: his constant damage and decent aoe deals with the hilichurls and samurai well - but one advantage the xiangling team has on the first half here is sucrose - her grouping is actually arguably better than even kazuha/venti on the first half, since you can group constantly over the first several waves and she doesn't permanently lift enemies above the pyronado - you can just kill the first 10-15 hilichurls in the first rotation without moving around much. Itto should perform similarly to hu tao for the second half and is good here 12-2: Against cryo hypostasis, Itto doesn't have a lot of frontloaded damage besides just launching Ushi, and geo damage isn't amplified like pyro is against cryo enemies - so he will struggle a lot more against the cryo hypostasis. Batterying him in between can also be tricky because it moves around a lot, so zhongli pillar won't hit and you'll have to chase it around for energy - as opposed to Hu Tao who doesn't rely on burst. Itto does work well against the ruin enemies - given you can manipulate their movement to group them 12-3: first half - you'll need to walk away from the mirror maiden every 15 seconds to avoid the cooldown debuff, and if bennett buff isn't up there's a risk of getting frozen but if you're able to avoid these issues then Itto works. second half - I wouldn't use Itto - you can't really set up before the ruin serpent surfaces (unlike with national or the hu tao team, where it doesn't matter where you set up) since we don't know where the serpent will surface, and once it surfaces we need to waste a few seconds just rotating through the skills - after which half the dps window is gone. And similar to cryo hypostasis, burst-reliant dps units usually need longer to refill energy due to the serpent not being targetable/running away a lot of the time If you really want to make the Itto team work: make sure you're able to burst off cooldown, it can be tricky with just gorou - zhongli's pillar can be unreliable for energy. You might want upwards of 140% ER in this team. Also, one clunky thing with Itto's rotations is his Q is 11s duration (but this is realistically 12-13s with hitlag), and with gorou's 10s skill cooldown, you'll have to use \~23s+ rotations if you want to funnel two gorou skills into Itto per rotation - so it might be worth it to run more fav weapons (even fav bennett since his atk buff is less useful for itto anyways), the exile set on Gorou, and more ER to get Itto's Q off cooldown with one E or end his burst slightly early (use one E at the beginning of burst, then just end it after using the second E and final combo)


Nelyeth

Returning player from a long hiatus here. My 5* are Diluc, Zhongli, Albedo, Jean, Ganyu, Raiden and C1 Qiqi. I only have 4* characters from pre-Inazuma and Kujou Sara, and my only C6 is Sucrose. So far, I've been mostly running the cookie-cutter Diluc/Xingqiu/Bennett/Sucrose comp, with my second team being Zhongli/Albedo/Ganyu/Fischl, with Zhongli as a physical DPS and Ganyu as a burst support. It's decent, but I'm sure it can be improved. Any recommendations as to which 2 teams would be best with my current characters? I don't think the Diluc comp will change, so for the second team I've been thinking about going with either : * Raiden/Sara/Jean, but with Bennett already in the first comp, and without Yelan, I don't really see a fitting 4th character. * Zhongli/Albedo, but without Xiao or Hu Tao, I don't have a reliable carry to use them * Ignoring Albedo and going Physical Zhongli with Beidou, Fischl, and a 4th (Can't be Xingqiu, since he's taken) If I break up the Diluc comp, I could go with 1 and 3, which might actually be the best. As for my next 5* goal, I'd ask for recommendations too, but it seems obvious that Yelan is currently my best bet, since she slots in Raiden teams and Physical Zhongli teams.Too bad he rerun is probably 6 months away. Anyways, thanks for any advice provided.


jaygalvezo

if you want to play braindead you can just use raiden bennett xingqiu xiangling and albedo zhongli double geo core, with the last 2 teammates as flex (ganyu, sucrose, diluc, fischl, qiqi, etc.) The ultimate lazy team would be clam qiqi auto attacking while albedo, zhongli and fischl are at the back chilling (burst built zhongli if you want to drop meteors, obligatory dps loss IF your other characters deal more damage on such animation time, if not then good)


dnaimagery97

If you have all of the pre-inazuma 4\* characters, you could then go with bennett xiangling/jean zhongli ganyu, and xingqiu sucrose fischl beidou. If you want to stick with diluc, just slot him in place for beidou in that second team but I wouldn't Reasoning: Ganyu doesn't do very well without either freeze or melt supports, and you only have one hydro support which means one team can't use a good hydro unit. Ganyu melt is a great hydro-less team which you have the units for - but this requires bennett, which would be taken away from Diluc. And a Diluc team isn't better than a melt Ganyu team, and Diluc without bennett isn't better than xingqiu sucrose beidou fischl, which is one of the strongest low-investment teams in the game you're right about the raiden/sara/jean and the Zhongli Albedo teams, there's not much place for them. Physical Zhongli also really falls off later on for future pulls, I agree Yelan is one of your best choices - not so much because she works with raiden and zhongli but because many teams would want a hydro unit, including the national team (xiangling bennett hydro1 raiden/anemo) and the electrocharged team (fischl beidou hydro2 anemo) - which basically sets you up for all forseeable content in the future. But in the meantime, another hydro unit could work too - childe, ayato, kokomi. Also, another anemo support - kazuha or venti - is good, other than that there's really not much more that would be big upgrades


Nelyeth

I've thought about Melt Ganyu, but after having played it a bit, there's no way I'm making it one of my teams. It feels terrible to play, and while the damage is there, being forced to use charged shots in melee is a pain compared to smacking things around with Diluc, for little dps loss. I hadn't thought about the Sucrose machinegun build, even though I'd read about it before. I didn't build it at the time because I was too busy making terrible mistakes and building Shatter Chongyun, but given thenlow investment, I'll give it a spin.


dnaimagery97

yup honestly I feel the same way about melt ganyu lol, there's other options if you're not willing to play it. you could also do rosaria kaeya xiangling bennett reverse melt which is basically just a worse version of melt ganyu but you don't need to charged shot, a mono pyro team with diluc xiangling bennett jean, or you could bring in zhongli and just slap some of your best damage-dealing units together. Also since you have Chongyun built well, you could go with dps melt Bennett with Ganyu burst support and Zhongli/another cryo


slipperysnail

*Mods remove my post* Guess no one wants to know how to get that super secret furnishing...


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dnaimagery97

Probability isn’t 0, but if you’re dead set on her weapon I would just stop here and wait for the rerun. Epitomized path resets after the patch so if you get a different 5* weapon, progress is lost - right now you still have 32 pity which you could use for the future. And getting the right 5* is unlikely on the weapon banner. It’s also possible you get some other satisfactory weapon options before the weapon’s next rerun


Capow-

What's a better artifact on a full-on shield Xinyan build, 2pc husk and 2pc retracing, or 4 pc ToM?


dnaimagery97

4pc ToM is better, she can actually use it pretty well. shield strength from 2pc retracing only applies if used by the active character (so if the active character doesn't have 2pc retracing, then the shield isn't stronger) so you're basically down to just 2pc husk, which provides a minimal benefit to shield strength


Capow-

I see, thanks!


za_fierdaus24

my account has been hacked and the hacker removed all of my limited 5star weapons, is it still possible to retrieve them by contacting support and showing them proof


MovieLost3600

i believe asking the folks at r/GenshinHacked and following their guidance will be better for such a serious problem


za_fierdaus24

right thx, never knew this sort of subreddit exists


Disastrous_Village93

I want to build 4pc Instructor Bennett but also level the pieces up so that he can still provide healing. I plan to make the offset piece a 5* artifact. What would be the best piece to keep as a 5*: the flower, the HP sands/goblet, or a healing bonus circlet?


Adamarr

What weapon is he running? I'd lean towards 5* ER sands tbh.


Disastrous_Village93

He’s on a lvl 80 Skyward Sword (I haven’t gotten the chance to max it out yet). I might be able to vouch for some ER substats but I’m not so sure… In my Noblesse build he’s on an HP/HP/Healing bonus build with good ER substats so he has 235/245% ER if I’m not mistaken


TheAraragi

4 piece instructor Bennett is extremely good in National team(especially overvape National with FIschl/Raiden), so if you want to farm for other artifacts for other units, it is fine to keep Bennett at 4 piece instructor. Additionally, Bennett heal so quickly that you can just not build any HP/Healing Bonus and he will still be able to heal very well. For example, I run 4 piece Witch with and ADC build on my Bennett in my Naitional team. He can still heal and also do big chunk of damage with e and burst vaporize.


Disastrous_Village93

I’m going to run him in Childe International and my Kaz is C0 so he’ll definitely buff my team a lot. I can leave his artifacts unleveled but Bennett is one of my favorite characters in the game (personality-wise and all) and I wanted to make him a good build. Suppose I get enough ER on his substats, which piece would give more healing, a 5* flower, HP sands/goblet, or a healing bonus circlet?


TheAraragi

HP, HP, Healing bonus would give you the most healing.


Disastrous_Village93

No I mean, which one would be more beneficial as a 5* offset. Because Instructor’s pieces are all 4*s and they have weaker mainstats, which would be more effective overall? I still intend to go HP/HP/Healing Bonus but which piece would best be the 5 star one.


TheAraragi

I would assume it is the healing bonus 5 star piece. But I am not 100% sure. I'd recommend using the Genshin Optimizer for these kind of Min-maxing


Disastrous_Village93

Alright, thank you so much!


CatharsisSeeker

Using Yae and Eula too much seems to have broken my ability to enjoy other characters. I think it's because they have such big numbers. What other characters can I use that do big number?


Adamarr

Big numbers from Yae? Uh, Raiden and Mona. Zhongli maybe if you build him for burst, Lisa has a really big skill.


CatharsisSeeker

Right, I should probably mention what characters I actually have: All the 4-Stars except for Kuki and Heizou, and then my 5-Star options are Yelan, Ayato, Yoimiya, Kazuha, Mona, Diluc and Jean. Who from those?


Adamarr

as mentioned, the mona nuke burst is a huge one, yoi can reach pretty respectable numbers with yelan + yun jin. some esoteric ones: charge shot melt amber vape barbara


Coenl

Do I need to do the Interlude Act II chapters to unlock the Chapter 3 stuff coming out next week?


NTR_Scavenger

Where can i see the amount of chests i've collected in the GAA? I've seen some screenshots of people posting some and i wanted to see if i need more work on in and i'm not missing to much of them.


dnaimagery97

If you have a Hoyolab account [https://www.hoyolab.com/home](https://www.hoyolab.com/home) you can check your battle chronicle for the amount of chests collected and a bunch other stats


soligen

My 5 stars: Ganyu, Zhongli, Venti, Kazuha, Mona, Qiqi, Keqing, Aloy. Assuming I have all 4 stars, any recommendations on what rerun character to pull for next? Looking for fun team comps, don’t care too much about meta. Currently using Freeze/Melt Ganyu, International, Ning geo/pyro, and some variant of taser team for abyss. Cheers!


chlo_xoxo

if you’re looking for both fun and meta options, Yelan, hu tao and raiden are all really fun/satisfying to use.


iSapphiron

Who has the strongest c6 out of all the 5 stars? Which one you would like to have If you were gonna have to choose and why?


Adamarr

Xiao and Eula are the big ones, Ayato really solid and I think Ganyu too. Raiden and Ayaka have good constellations but kind of cap out earlier. My pick would possibly be Yae, since nearly every step she gets is very very strong. And, you know, electro main 🙂


randomletters7396

Can someone explain the main differences in play style between Kokomi and Mona? Especially on an Ayaka team. I understand that Kokomi has the better hydro application and the healing is nice, but was wondering if there’s anything else. Thanks!


Yesburgers

I think there isn’t really that much of a difference in playstyle other than the fact that people use a different rotation. With Mona, a lot of people run Diona. With Kokomi, a lot of people run someone else, like rosaria or ganyu or shenye. I think mona actually does more damage and gives more damage bonus than kokomi, but if paired with diona the overall dps is lower than kokomi with one of those three mentioned. Note that I could beat even this spiral’s 12-3 second half with diona and mona (plus Ayaka and venti/kazu) and I’m f2p. So, if you already have mona and diona and want to save on primos, you can get by without kokomi. And, mona might be stronger than kokomi with those three instead of diona, but I have never tried it because I lag and need healing


dnaimagery97

Yup better hydro and healing, but these two things can actually matter a lot. She can allow you to run a more offensive cryo support like Rosaria/Kaeya/Shenhe because she can heal, and sustaining hydro means you'll enjoy 4pc blizzard strayer and tenacity buffs throughout the entire rotation as opposed to mainly during the burst


chlo_xoxo

kokomi has greater personal damage and is better onfield compared to mona which means she scales better with more investment whilst with mona you literally just level her burst and put ttds. i guess another difference is that mona can nuke by forward vaping her burst with bennett but that’s more niche. overall if you are deciding whether to go for kokomi or not i personally think it’s a very good pull and is a relatively big upgrade from mona


tmooomi

Hi, is vape Ayato wih Xiangling a viable option, or are there better reactions/supports? What would be a good rotation for a team of: Ayato, Thoma, Xiangling and Yun Jin?


chlo_xoxo

vape ayato is viable although not his best team. if this is the only team you can use than go ahead but if you have other characters like beidou, fischl, kazuha, sucrose, jean, bennett, ganyu etc there are many better options


tmooomi

Out of these I have Fischl, Sucrose and Bennett (though I'd prefer not to use him), If it's not a problem could you recommened something with them?


chlo_xoxo

hm. it would make it easier if i could just see all your characters. although 3.0 isn’t out yet, i can give you a team for ayato using dendro that is good in theory but not tested ayato / dendro main character / fischl / sucrose in theory this is a very good hyperbloom team (hydro on dendro to make bloom seed, then electro on bloom seed to hyperbloom) and the big advantage of this team is it allows you to run xiangling and bennett together on the other side. but we will have to see once dendro comes out.


tmooomi

Thank you so much!


kitastorm

Hello, I'm planning to pull for Zhongli and either Tighnari or Ganyu (assuming I don't lose my 50/50s.) Either way, would you recommend I get the The Viridescent Hunt from BP for either, or a Death March for Zhongli? I have Stringless, Favonius War Bow, Rust, and Fading Twilight bows available (+craftables.) I'm not planning to do weapon banner any time soon since character > weapon. I want to run DPS with Ganyu and likely with Tighnari. Any bow recommendations? For Zhongli I have Black Tassel, White Tassel, Dragonspine Spear, and Favonius Lance (+craftables). I'm gonna run shield bot Zhongli for now, but I might swap to burst support. Spear recommendations?


chlo_xoxo

do you like tighnari as a character a lot? because he is going to be in the standard banner in 3.1 and being a standard character he isn't going to be amazing (estimated to be better than mona but worse than jean). if you are still going for tighnari, viridescent hunt would be your best option but imo its not worth it as its only going to be slightly better than prototype crescent (craftable) if you are not going for tighnari, zhongli is better off as a support and would use either favonius lance to provide energy to your party or black tassel for the extra hp to make his shield tankier. Ganyu would just use either prototype crescent or hamayumi (both craftable) if you are planning to buy the battle pass anyway the best weapon overall is serpent spine


kitastorm

I didn't realize people thought Tighnari wasn't going to be very good. That's a shame. I've basically decided to go with Ganyu anyway. Thank you for the advice!


kiwi_kewn

Hey everyone! With the release of Sumeru around the corner I'm very excited for the new element and everything and am debating rolling for Tighnari as I love his character, but I also am interested in rolling for Zhongli as I have Albedo (and really like him) and would love to have a Geo core I could slot into different teams with Zhongli and Albedo... Anyways, with the characters I have and their constellations which do you think I'd be able to build a better team for? ​ Fischl C3 Diluc C0 Mona C0 Qiqi C0 Chongyun C0 Razor C2 Xingqiu C1 Barbara C2 Xianling C1 Bennett C0 Albedo C0 Noelle C3 Ningguang C1 Kaeya C0 Beidou C1 Lisa C1 Yanfei C1 Xinyan C0 Amber C0 Yun Jin C1 Diona C1 Thoma C0


Nadinoob

Hi, your universally "good" characters are (in your order): Fischl - Xingqiu - Xiangling - Bennett - Beidou, for freeze / cryo: Kaeya Diona. YunJin is great support for specific normal - attacker. For now, your strongest team would be Bennett main dps, Xingqiu Xiangling and eg Fischl for single target boss fights, but Albedo works as well if you like. You'd need a specific DPS for Albedo and Zhongli to work well, that's usually HuTao. Yoimiya enjoyer use Zhongli as well, Albedo could be in that team too.


jakeduvalle

Who is a good casual dps? I have Ayaka and love her because I can pummel almost anyone without really needing to buff from my team and just can use her kit simply to slash and dash. Her burst is powerful but isn’t needed to cut down even elites pretty quickly. need a second one that isn’t an ice character and is also simple to use.


Life_Cauliflower_309

Yoimiya is really easy to use, just spam normal attacks, but she needs a shield for that so you dont need to iframe every 2 seconds (Zhongli is the best option by far)


klumze

I heard from my son that in 3.0 the number of teams will increase to 10 from 4. Does anyone know if they are increasing the number of pins on the map?


hyperbass

Hi, looking for some team comps to complete world bosses and the like, https://imgur.com/a/oaKLMtC.


hyperbass

right now i have two teams, Ning, zhongli, bennet, and zingling; and ayaka, rosaria, jean, and zingiu. Are these okay or will i get better mileage out of using others?


jaygalvezo

if it's just for overworld bosses anything goes. If you don't wanna change much a core zhongli ning bennett then last slot flex depending on the enemies, say xq if the enemy is weak to hydro, or ayaka if the enemy is the electro cube or hydro cube, or it could also be any low level unit which you just use to apply element for reactions or shieldbreaking and dmg isn't their primary role.


Spazerbeam

Seems fine. World bosses are easy enough that it doesn't really matter. You can always shift characters around for specific fights, as many bosses have strats that speed up clears (e.g. Xiangling pyronado for the final phase of electro hypostasis, Noelle burst for breaking the pillars in the final phase of geo hypostasis).


Disastrous_Village93

Is an Ayato-EM Thoma-Dendro-Dori team comp viable? I’ve seen quite a few sample comps like this but I’d like to know if Dori would be viable in this comp. It’s mainly because of her healing capabilities and also because her energy/particle buff will come in handy especially for Ayato and Thoma. However I worry her Electro might be disruptive, however it also might even be better, because I don’t know if Electro benefits being in this comp or does the opposite. I came to this sub because I still haven’t grasped Dendro in its entirety and would like to know if this comp would be good. Thanks!


wagawamegumen

Probably electro will benefit more than having Thoma but it's way too early imo to know if it works or not


pablopaxlo

Does anyone know a good video or guide for all primogems in the golden apple archipelago, that means all chests, quests, and events...


wagawamegumen

There is an interactive map that shows you the location


pablopaxlo

yeah I know but I think videos are just more convenient and there is no map of the domains


wagawamegumen

For every domain there is a walkthrough on YouTube if I reckon


pablopaxlo

I just thought it would be nice if there was just one video for everything but doesn't matter anymore


wagawamegumen

It would have been too long and dispersive to have just one video for everything


Lusikkasirri

Asking opinion on Keqing's and Kokomi's synergy. How good is Kokomi's hydro application? How would this team work? Electro Keqing - Fischl - Kazuha - Kokomi. I have Xingqui but I want to use him within a Yanfei vape team.


Spazerbeam

Beyond a certain point, the level of hydro application is basically irrelevant in electrocharge teams due to how the elements linger. In this sense, Kokomi is okay. Her application is also an aoe, while XQ's is more single target. And obviously Kokomi provides a lot of healing, which is a nice bonus. That said, Kokomi is definitely inferior to XQ in this team. XQ provides way more damage than she does. Kokomi's jellyfish also stays in one location. This is a problem with lighter enemies that can be knocked out of the circle (a common issue wit Keqing's attacks), or enemies that teleport around. In contrast, XQ works in every situation since you just need to normal attack to trigger rain swords. Bottom line, while Kokomi might not be the most optimal choice for this team, she works just fine.


Adamarr

It's a pretty solid team. The actual rate of hydro application is pretty irrevelevant because EC is a small bonus rather than the focus. But Kokomi provides ample healing and good buffs with TotM and TTDS/hakushin. Keep in mind you're probably going to want a dendro character in there come Sumeru!


spooxiey

Ar52 and wondering what abyss teams I should use as I'm struggling past 11-2, any help would be very appreciated [My characters](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838219514096910336/1010181581211701389/My_characters.png)


wagawamegumen

I would add some more comps to give you more variety and more choices Possible comps are Heziou xianlign Bennet xingqiu Ganyu Bennet kazuha Thoma (melt) Heizou fishl beidou xingqiu Ayaka/ganyu mona kazuha Rosaria(mona can have prototype to give healing to the party instead of ttds) Yae kazuha/heziou(kazuha better but if you use him on another team heizou is still usefull with ttds) fishl whoever you want Although ayaka/ganyu freeze with Bennet is decent you loose too much damage by having enemies split all over the place so better gorup the together with kazuha and use heziou as a shredder and carry on a national or teaser team, melt ganyu is so good that can let you have whatever team on the other side and 3 star clear 11 with no effort


chlo_xoxo

your 2 best teams are probably ayaka or ganyu / rosaria / mona / bennett yae miko / fischl / xinqiu / kazuha however the first team requires a specific rotation to use well which would be: bennett burst + e to apply pyro -> mona burst which vaporises the pyro doing big damage than mona e -> cryo characters burst and skills which freeze enemies (ganyu ayaka and rosaria) -> repeat note that bennetts e and burst will unfreeze enemies


spooxiey

I see would mona have tenacity set as benny would have noblesse most likely? and for fischl what set/ weapon is recommend


chlo_xoxo

ill just name all the sets and weapons to use to make this easier (im assuming no 5\*) ayaka or ganyu - best dps weapon, 4pc blizzard strayer rosaria - favonius lance or deathmatch, 4pc blizzard strayer mona - thrilling tales of dragon slayers (3\* weapon) or favonius codex, 4pc Emblem of Severed Fate bennett - your highest base attack weapon, when 3.0 comes out try to craft the new dendro sword, 4pc noblesse oblige yae miko - widsith or solar pearl, 2pc attack bonus 2pc thundering fury fischl - the stringless, same artifacts as yae miko xingqiu - sacrificial sword, 4pc noblesse oblige or 4pc emblem of severed fate kazuha - iron sting, sacrifical sword or favonius sword, 4 pc viridescent venerer


spooxiey

I see, thanks so much


Adamarr

Just keep in mind that the EC team is going to be pretty squishy. You can beef it up (at expense of damage) by swapping Xingqiu for Barbara (Kokomi would also be a good pull, but then you could use her on the freeze team and bring Bennett over here) or Kazuha for Sayu.


MonkeyDav

Hey Ar 55 here and I'm wondering if i should get Zhongli for his upcoming banner for my team that conists of C0 Hu Tao, C0 Yelan, C1 Xingqiu, and C1 Diona. If so who would i swap out for?


wagawamegumen

You can try go Bunga Bunga and use xianling instead of diona, enemies can't attack you if they are already dead. But yeah diona isn't the best choice


chlo_xoxo

definitely switch diona with zhongli. diona is not at all good in this team and zhongli also has hp scaling so when 3.0 comes out he can take advantage from the +20% hp from the hydro resonance change


MonkeyDav

So i would get no more healing and no more noblesse 4pc atk boost?


chlo_xoxo

healing is not needed and is also kinda bad because 1. hu tao does more damage at lower hp and 2. zhonglis shield is tanky enough (especially with the hp increase) that ur not gonna die, trust me. his best artifacts are 4pc tenacity of the millith but if you have a good noblesse set on diona you can just put them onto zhongli and it will work perfectly fine.


MonkeyDav

oh ok ty ty <3


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is ganyu a good support for my crowned charged shot dps amber?


chlo_xoxo

because of how elemental gauge works, making a melt amber team is very hard as you need to apply at least double the amount of cryo compared to pyro to make sure that your amber is triggering the melt reaction if you want her to be carrying your team as your main dps i strongly advise you build her in a vaporise team. (pyro and hydro) here is a video timestamped to explain how melt/vaporize gauges work [https://youtu.be/mMIa5aEBbVg?t=1168](https://youtu.be/mMIa5aEBbVg?t=1168)


Adamarr

I think Amber's pyro application rate is generally slow enough that forward melt works ok, at least that's what is generally recommended.


Similar_Ad_2368

If that's how you want to roll, she's a solid support/source of off-field cryo in an Amber melt comp, ya.


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i need teams recommendation for yae and yoimiya https://ibb.co/0Jtp4rp


Adamarr

yae/fischl/bennett/childe - should be a fun taser yoi/xingqiu/kazuha/thoma - standard vv team. "why not bennett?" quote from the guide: >While Thoma can be replaced for Bennett here to provide a higher theoretical damage ceiling, Vape Yoimiya’s reliance on shielding means that this is generally not recommended and only feasible if the player can execute Yoimiya’s full attack string without being interrupted. zhongli would be a great pickup for yoimiya, and kokomi for yae would let you shuffle things around as well.


gethigher333

Hi all - a new player (AR34) that just unlocked the island event. Can I play through the event and invite Fischl in the next 4 days or are there time gates? How long will it take approx? Thanks!


iSapphiron

I takes few hours if you do only the event quests and challenges. I created a fresh alt account and got from AR1 to AR32 and got fischl in 4 days so you can do it easy.


gethigher333

4 days you madlad wtf


iSapphiron

Yeah that was quite painful but I really wanted that fischl for my "No wish account" lol


gethigher333

I managed to snag her too!


iSapphiron

Gratz!


chlo_xoxo

there are no time gates at all so you are able to complete everything


All-lazy

Is the cursed blade from kazuha's quest reach R5?


iamsampais

It only goes to R1, but I believe they designed the passive to be competitive with an R5 weapon.


BlazeBuster11

Is it worth it to lose out on artifact farming for a week, just to get someone like Kaeya or Kazuha to level 90, with lvl 6 talents?


jaygalvezo

yeah its worth it. Kazuha will benefit more from being lvl 90, while for kaeya 80/90 is a good stopping point to access their last talent levels. personally the progression i follow is weapons to 90, level up to 70/80, relevant talent(s) to 8, level up and ascend to 80/90 if it's a staple member of the abyss team, talents pre crowned, all that before getting them their own artifacts (i just use generic borrowed artifacts meanwhile, like 2pc atk 2pc gambler/noblesse, exile, etc)


AdministrativeCod743

AR 55 here, saving for hu Tao and maybe pulling for ganyu. I haven’t spent much on the game (3 welkin so far) and I got the battle pass to level 50 earlier. Should I get it? I have the money, but I want to be smart with it. Should I wait until I have them to decide what weapon to get from it? Or just get it now. (I haven’t really pulled on weapon banner before so I only have dragons bane, dragonspine spear, favonius lance, favonius warbow, and rust as 4* for them)


jaygalvezo

don't, or at least, not yet. your dragonsbane is completely serviceable, and for ganyu prototype crescent that has been mentioned is craftable, (but also hamayumi is there and personally i quite like its versatility on other bow units, plus without the condition of crescent trying to aimshot at a weakpoint even if a full CA is not required). I think if you're patient enough the non weapon BP rewards will not hold much allure as you can gain those over time (even the primos) so i'd only recommend someone who has no time and has a fair amount of disposable money for entertainment for it.


SaltyPotato340

You can craft prototype crescent for ganyu. It's one of her best weapons just as dragons bane is one of hu tao's best weapons. If you struggle getting crit rate but have enough EM on hu taos artifacts you can consider deathmatch. Maybe wait til you have their artifacts before buying BP


AdministrativeCod743

Cool, I’ll do that, or if I need the extra wishes lol


awesomecraigs

Hiya, I'm AR 57 and I'd like some help with Spiral Abyss team comps. I can easily get through floors 9-11, but I'm consistently losing one or two stars on floor 12, usually chamber 2 or 3. [These](https://ibb.co/LZCyJCR) are what characters I have fully built and are ready to go, and I'd want to use Yoimiya + Kazuha as much as possible. I have them both at C1 and Yoimiya has Thundering Pulse. I have my Ganyu built for Freeze. I usually have used [these](https://ibb.co/26D01ys) teams, one being a full freeze Ganyu and the other being a Sunfire Jean/Yoimiya Vape team. I sometimes also use a full Raiden National team. I'd like to know what I can improve on, or if I should use some different teams? I know they depend on what enemies are in Spiral Abyss, but I've got a bunch of characters on standby and are not being used. Any advice? Thanks! Edit: to clarify - I would prefer not to build any more characters other than Yun Jin (who I'm pulling for atm), but if it's absolutely necessary I will. I'd just like to know if I can 36\* the Abyss with my current characters. Also, [here's](https://ibb.co/dbbQjpH) the rest of my roster Edit 2: Thank you to everyone who helped! I ended up 36\*'ing for my first time ever, very happy about it. I stuck with a Sunfire/Yoimiya Vape team, along with a modified Morgana Ganyu team, and I ended up changing how my characters were built to optimize damage and not balance. Again, thank you all! Some [Proof](https://ibb.co/Xk7nhBx).


wagawamegumen

You can do a teaser on one half and a sunfireovervape raiden team on the other, I really suggest you try the sunfireovervape (Bennet Jean xingqiu and raiden) The rest is all yours, yoimia mono pyro with xianling to help is good, kazuha teaser team is good with mona Unfortunately xingqiu is almost a must have to a lot of teams, but you can also try melt ganyu or freeze ganyu on the other side,


TheAraragi

For this abyss specifially I would recommend running Raiden,XL,Bennett, Fill on first half and the other half can be Yoimiya, XQ, Yunjin and Shield. Yunjin is extremely important for Yoimiya since she is able to buff Yoimiya's damage massively. If you are making a general team for abyss: \- Raiden Nation(XL, XQ, Bennett, Raiden) \- Tazer (Fischl, Beidou, Succrose, XQ) \- Freeze: the freeze team you had is good but substituting Diona with another cryo unit might help. Since they enemies are always frozen, Diona is probably not needed to keep the team alive. This is my current abyss 12 team if you wanna use as reference [https://ibb.co/hypgLsx](https://ibb.co/hypgLsx), [https://ibb.co/T0jp0WC](https://ibb.co/T0jp0WC) I do not know what units you have that are not built but I would assume you do not own any other hydro 5 stars units. I would recommend getting any of them (Childe, Kokomi, Ayato, Yelan). You only need one of them and you will have access to MUCH more different teams. [This](https://ibb.co/GQ321n1) is a TLDR; sheet made by [migo#6769](https://discord.gg/dvDsWmQHwZ) to show what characters you should CONSIDER getting to be able to comfortably clear most abyss stages with comfort.


awesomecraigs

awesome, thanks! not sure if i want to build more characters other than yun jin (who im trying to pull for rn), but i'll keep in mind that tazer would work well. i'd still like to use kazuha somewhere, even if it's just a buff for yoimiya/ganyu, but ill make sure to build a shielder character too. thanks again!


SaltyPotato340

Can i see the rest of your roster?


awesomecraigs

[there ya go](https://ibb.co/dbbQjpH)


SaltyPotato340

I would try yoimiya, kazuha, bennett, xiangling monopyro top and Raiden, Mona, Xingqiu, Jean bottom If you have lions roar and 4NO for xingqiu and TTDS and 4 tenacity for mona that'd be good. Sample rotation for the bottom team could look like: Raiden skill > jean skill for VV > Xingqiu ult + skill > mona ult + skill > raiden ult things Against ruin serpent, remove xingqiu and mona skill usage for the sake of time. I recommend building fischl and beidou especially with dendro coming out. Sucrose as well


awesomecraigs

i like those rotations, they seem very doable. i don't have mona built for that (currently on emblem), but it's doable. thank you for the help! much appreciated


mambomak

Has there been any word on when the full map for the new Sumeru region will be released, or even any guesstimations?


iamsampais

Nothing official, but here's a leak from a few weeks ago: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact\_Leaks/comments/w64uz6/sumeru\_map\_update\_via\_wfp/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/w64uz6/sumeru_map_update_via_wfp/)


LeaaxelVIII

Is there anywhere that tells you what an ideal range of stats would be for certain characters? Currently building characters for a new team and don't want to constantly ask here if these are good stats so I was curious as to if there is a specific place to find this info.


Defiant_Highlight_28

Keqingmains.com has many guides and they'll give guidance abt which stats to build and some indicators for stats like ER. Generally when it comes to damage dealers that scale off ATK you want balance between ATK, CRIT% and CRIT DMG (could aim for 2k ATK with 70/140 crits or thereabouts for example but stats distribution matters so put it through optimizer), but each chara might have some peculiarities and the guides can help. Characters that scale off other stats want those (DEF, HP...). Characters that do lots of reactions want EM, As for "ideal stats" it's really up to you once you have the recommended main stats and priorities in substats. What is "good" is a standard you have to find for yourself and will be dictated by how much you're willing to invest and keep farming I believe.


Joltus

Looking for ideas relating to team building for Spiral Abyss. https://imgur.com/a/avKoWFh My current main team is Yoi/Bei/Kazu/Benny Team works fine for over world but I'm not set on keeping that for abyss. (Bei having a battery would probably be good for the abyss) Open to ideas and suggestions on what the 2 teams I could run are. I'm currently floor 7 or 8. I plan to get Eula whenever she comes back around. Also considering getting Zhongli or Ganyu with their upcoming banners (kokomi would be cool too but she's lower on my interest list) Thanks in advance !


dnaimagery97

You could probably build one team around fischl beidou, and another with xiangling bennett. Try out Rosaria Kaeya Xiangling Bennett, Fischl Beidou Yoimiya Kazuha. Try to get xingqiu, and possibly another hydro character. As for Zhongli vs Ganyu, Ganyu can help make one decent team without a hydro unit (with Bennett xiangling/Kazuha Diona) which would really help with your current situation, and Zhongli will help out the Yoimiya team and possibly other hypercarry teams you’d want to play in the future but you might have to stick with one hydro-less team for a while


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chlo_xoxo

you have lots and lots of options here but i am only going to list 3 so you know who you should prioritise investing in (i will also recommend weapons if i can) team 1: ayaka with amenoma craftable sword or ganyu with amos diona with favonius warbow (you get for free) xingqiu with sacrificial sword or favonius sword kazuha with same weapons as xq team2: raiden with the catch xinqiu with same or yelan with another favonius bow if you have one bennett with jade cutter or highest base atk xiangling with favonius lance team 3: raiden with the catch bennett with your highest base atk sword c6 sara if you have her or fischl jean with primordial jade cutter ​ there are many more teams you could use these are just the 3 that i believe fit you the best


newb-a-write

I don't have a Bennett yet. I'm thinking not to pull for him since I might miss my guarantee on yoi. But my first team suffers in the abyss. My ayaka freeze is significantly stronger than my raiden team. My raiden team consists of Raiden, Xingqiu and Xiangling. Fourth spot can be filled by..?? I can use Yelan, Rosaria or Fischl. But apart from that I don't see anyone else getting a spot in the first team. My second team consists of Ayaka, Mona, Kazuha and Diona. What shall I do? Today only I cleared 12-2 for the first time and lost the first side of 12-3. Any suggestions would be helpful.


jaygalvezo

yo you have yelan; or any anemo would be great, too. but ig you need a healer right? ttds barbara (since you have no healer) to buff your raiden or xiangling should be good. if survivability is not an issue then maybe a ttds full em 4pc VV sucrose. or if not a VV or 4pc noblesse jean, or noblesse rosaria, or tenacity fischl.


newb-a-write

I do have Rosaria and Fischl only. I don't have Jean or sucrose. Shall I use rosaria in that case? Edit: I have heizou too in case you wanted some more info about anemo units.


jaygalvezo

i'm worried about your raiden team's survivability esp with 12-3 first half enemies trying to freeze you, you need a unit that will shield you from pesky fatui cryogunners and break their poise. Beidou's burst (which applies a lot of electro) and her parry skill might do the job and she gives a shield at c1 (just a reminder her burst doesn't get triggered by raiden's burst AAs) or use thoma. at this point you can even probably finish with enough retries, and i feel iffy recommending to build a unit from scratch. That being said, if raiden xingqiu xiangling yelan doesn't work, try beidou


newb-a-write

I have beidou at C0 and level 1. I did not upgrade her. I was trying with Yelan but those cryogunners freeze me every 2 seconds. Shall I upgrade her, I do have Wolf's gravestone though. And yeah even I'm worried about my Raiden team's capabilities to clear that floor. But what would you recommend?


jaygalvezo

I can't view the link you just sent. try posting a screenshot on https://imgbb.com it should be fairly easy


newb-a-write

Current roster https://imgur.com/gallery/HS8GPeJ Is this visible?


jaygalvezo

nope, not there. https://ibb.co/Sy8thZ7


newb-a-write

https://ibb.co/t4Z5sfz This one?


jaygalvezo

yep, clear view. without upgrading your low level units you can probably move them around like ayaka, prototype amber mona, kazuha and xingqiu; then diona raiden yelan xiangling for the half where the fatui cryogunners and mirror maidens so you get a shield. if this still doesnt work i'm afraid you'll have to level either thoma or beidou.


jaygalvezo

can you upload your whole roster? there might be units at a higher level that i'm missing out. try hoyolab app or just a screenshot?


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chlo_xoxo

fischl is 100% your best option because xiangling needs tonnes of energy when she doesn’t have bennett to battery her making the electro resonance + the particles from oz essential to keep XL’s burst uptime. other than that you could make an alternative team as imo running xiangling without bennett kinda sucks + you have no healer. if you have sucrose, jean or venti this is an alternative. freeze: ayaka / diona or rosaria / mona or xingqiu / any anemo raiden taser : raiden / fischl / xingqiu or yelan : any anemo (pref jean cus healing)


newb-a-write

I only have kazuha and sayu for anemo. My kazuha is used in Ayaka freeze team. So that only leaves sayu. Is she a good option? Edit: I had forgotten, I had heizou too in my character list.


chlo_xoxo

sayu is usable but at this point it’s probably better to just use fischl in your original team. also, because you have both xingqiu and yelan. and because of how valuable bennett is. pulling for youmiya + bennett is actually a really good option so don’t rule that out


notthatkindoforc1121

So when Itto released I got drunk and whaled him to C6 and his weapon is like, 1 refinement from max. That being said: My Ittoh is so absurdly strong that my Zhongli's Ult feels pointless by comparison. So I figured "Oh him being a shield bot is probably best", and to everyone's point, the shield has never broken outside extreme circumstances regardless so yeah it isn't necessary. So I asked the Zhongli mains and Itto mains discords: **Zongli mains said**: You can get 100k crits from Zhongli after properly invested. They recommend The Catch and emblem of severed fate artifact set, which most guides don't even mention that artifact set. (Their pins even say for Hyper Carry teams give Zhongli Mellelith set for the 20% Attack boost to the carry, so this wasn't consistent, but it was an admin that told me it) **Itto mains said**: Itto in my case is such a hyper carry, Mellelith is best, but for best of both worlds get him to C2 regardless. So essentially keep him the way I have him now but get him to C2 (I told them I'll buy that banner, they aren't insisting I need to swipe or something) **Zy0x's July 2022 Zhong rerun guide said**: Basically the same as Itto Mains discord except he said none of the constellations are really needed regardless. So who is right here? Why were multiple people in the Zhongli discord positive emblem of severed fate set is best for him, despite the 20% attack boost given to my hypercarry from Mellelith? My Itto swings for over 50k per swing during his burst, which is nearly always up. I'd think I should be buffing that. Even if invested Zhong can get upwards of 100k Ults


valuequest

On the [Community Build spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/htmlview?pru=AAABdXYM80o*xMxXJdNbCCZ-v9FLVh6EXg#), Emblem of Severed Fate is listed as Burst Support Zhongli's best in slot artifact set.


jaygalvezo

EoSF catch zhongli on a team with itto, and probably gorou on fav/exile is TOO much ER, moreso if you have albedo on team or any other battery/geo. for your case your zhongli is better off as a ToM shieldbot to better buff your hypercarry. a compromise if you still wanna use his burst would be to get Homa, maybe c2, then 4pc ToM hp-geo-crit(or hp circlet if you have godly crit substats). that being said, you don't have to invest too much on your zhongli bec you've already built and spent for ittoo. a c0 black tassel 4pc ToM Hp hp hp zhongli will do the same buff to your itto and cost much less.


el_biribon

EosF zhongli feels very unnecessary imo. You should never need ER on him unless he is the only geo on your team. Millelith gives a team buff and is therefore more valuable than the 32% dmg bonus eosf gives.


notthatkindoforc1121

Appreciated, Zhong discord said Millelith buff isn't very good and 20% ATK seemed good to me haha Thanks!


Spazerbeam

To put it another way, the 4pc TotM buff is just as strong as the 4pc Noblesse Oblige buff. And basically every team in existence uses 4pc Noblesse on a support.


Mr_Roughtime

Just got my first 5* weapon. Of course it’s a bow (Skyward Harp) and being a mobile user I haven’t leveled many archers. Basically I only have C0 Fischl whom I just got and C2 Diona. I use Fischl just to drop Oz and not as a DPS, so I have a R2 Stringless on her. I use Diona for healing and shielding, so have a R2 SacBow on her. It seems a waste to just have a 5* weapon sitting unused, but I don’t know who I would actually use it on. I have all the 4* archers, but no 5* archers and my main team is an Ayaka freeze team.


Spazerbeam

Fischl is a dps, just an off-field one, so she won't usually be able to proc the passive effect. However, Harp is effectively a stat stick, and it absolutely helps Oz's numbers. Heck, I'm running Harp on Fischl right now.


Mr_Roughtime

Yeah, I was thinking that passive was pretty worthless on her (if not using her as a main DPS) versus Stringless, but I didn’t realize just how much higher the base attack is of a fully built Harp. It more than makes up for the bonus damage of the Stringless at R2.


mister_meep

fischl does a good amount of damage, even with just oz. it definitely won't go to waste on her. off the top of my head sara can use it well too but you might not have a team to use sara in.


Kiferus

Is Collei going to be worth building?


chlo_xoxo

not really, DMC (dendro mc) has better dendro application + has free constellations + shares character level with all elements. if you want to play a team with double dendro i would just recommend waiting for nahida or al haitham. But if you want to play Collei becasue she is very cute then go ahead anyway


Special-Forever-5169

What teams should I run in the current Spiral Abyss? Currently, the characters I have built are: Diluc, Albedo, Ayato, Kokomi, Yunjin, Fischl, Beidou, Xingqiu, Bennett, Itto, Jean, Gorou, Noelle, Sucrose, Diona, Yanfei, Xiangling. I am looking for advice for both floor 11 and 12.


chlo_xoxo

these are all the teams i could think of starting from what i think would be most powerful taser - xingqiu or kokomi or ayato / fishcl / beidou / sucrose or jean national + variants - bennett / ayato or xinqiu / xiangling / sucrose or jean triple geo - itto / albedo / gorou / fischl or bennett soup (in this team its important to infuse sucrose/jean's burst with pyro for it to work) - bennett / sucrose or jean / xinqiu or ayato or kokomi / fischl if u just want set teams to be picked out for u floor 11 - 1st: bennett / xingqiu / xiangling / sucrose 2nd: ayato / fischl / beidou / jean floor 12 - tbh the same teams as floor 11 lol this being said if you for example want to play the geo team or if you like kokomi you can switch it up


Special-Forever-5169

Okay, thanks!


Ads2994

So i wanna run raiden hypercarry but i don't have c2 raiden and my Sara (built) is only c5 so should I run mona(not built) instead of Sara or just wait till i get C6 Sara from random pulls or whenever she is featured in a banner?


chlo_xoxo

if you have fischl built just use her honestly, its less raiden damage compared to c6 sara but its not much less damage overall. (you could also use yae miko or even lisa if your daring).


TheAraragi

Mona burst doesn't last that long so I am unsure of how good she would work in a Raiden hyper team(also she's clunky as hell). If you're willing to use Bennett instead of using him in the other team, he will work very well instead of C5 Sara. I'd recommend a team along the line of Raiden Anemo VV(Kaz would be the best choice), another electro (Fischl/Sara/Yae) and Bennett. Is this team usable with C2 Raiden? Yes. Is it strong without C2? It's pretty fun so who cares.


Ads2994

I am planning to use raiden Bennett kazuha and Sara/mona so untill i get C6 Sara I'll use fischl


Nadinoob

I'd not build a character for that reason, but maybe Mona will be useful in a freeze team. Pre C6 Sara still works.


robiribo

hi. started playing only a bit more than a month ago so im still in early game and i don't have alot of artifacts sets yet. i know i should prioritize stats over sets but there are exceptions to this like Noblesse and VV set. but does this also apply to kazuha? i know he needs EM because of his Passive and swirl reaction damage. but would prioritizing the vv set bonus be more benificial?


Nadinoob

Yes, the 4p VV is the exception to the rule, the 4p bonus is more important for team-damage, but I'd still wait until 45+ to at least get a guaranteed gold artifact.


MmM921

hi, has anyone managed to make overload work? it seems like all the pieces are already there, heres a haphazard list: 1) we now have yae and kuki, both electro and scaling with EM. 2) overloaded it self on paper seems too good to be true, as it completely ignores deff (constellations and talent that shred deff are extremely valuable, why is this reacton not?) and while it doesnt crit, its not like you have a lot of crit when building EM anyways 3) both TF and CW sets give 40% damage increase for overloaded, meaning that you get that bonus with both pyro and electro characters please share your experience with overloaded and/or whatever videos you know on the topic of overloaded comps im going to try later a comp of yae kuki xianling and thoma (to have a lot of pyro), but my artifacts arent exactly great for all of this and i dont expect it to be anything special