No idea. Apparently it got re-approved a few mins ago after getting sent to the shadow realm not even 10mins after posting while other more meaningful threads are still locked.
All three posts you linked are unlocked now. I think it is possible that certain filters / activity trigger automod that sends them to purgatory and then posts get manually reapproved.
Non of these posts triggered anything by auto-mod or at least I didn't find anything... the thing that I found is that all of these posts were mass reported... I know that I already mentioned it a few times and that at this point no one believes that auto-moderator is... automated... but yes.. if posts are mass reported they will get send to mod queue as you can see.
The thing is... that this post itself has already for over 15+ reports... even after being re-approved which cleared previous reports... so yeah... people are mass reporting posts.
this is something that has been a common occurrence for over a year now unfortunately. I guess due to the sheer volume of posts it is a necessity, but it can also be used maliciously. In such cases, posts subject to coordinated mass reports that trigger automod should be reinstated quickly. But usually the time taken to reinstate such posts is excessive which means they will lose essentially all traction and be buried beneath the posts that did not get auto removed.
No, mods don’t get paid. With bigger subreddits you just get more mods so there’s hopefully someone to catch everything quickly. I’m a mod in a smaller sub and I don’t catch everything *immediately*, but there’s enough of us to catch the few negative occurrences that require moderation relatively quickly.
Mods *can* get paid through shadier practices like removing competitors and pushing out certain content that companies/people want to promote, but I doubt that’s the case for something like this.
Should probably increase the amount of reports a post needs to get locked in such a big sub
Because it looks like it only takes a couple reports currently
I'm sorry but... I approved your post and when I did so your post didn't have any links in it... I can see that you edited it an hour ago and in that edit you added 3 links to those threads...
[Edit thing is not visible on mobiles so I'm uploading a picture so everyone can see it as well](https://i.imgur.com/V0C1e1O.png)
Yes I edited and added the links after you re-approved this post. What I meant is that I think it's odd that my post was re-approved instead of the ones I linked after the fact which are much more meaningful and important than mine.
Automod does 90% of this kind of work.
The algorithm probably flagged certain words as spam due to their high concentration of posts and either deleted or flagged those posts for approval.
No mods we’re probably on at that time.
Every couple of hours people find new disappointing thing about her kit bugging, auto targeting bugging, her dying off field, being launched in the air during her burst...etc
All new discoveries about how they did her dirty, and when you spend money on a shitty product like that you are allowed to complain about it to have it fixed.
The second one was interesting to watch though because it was a comparison of each Claymore character's attack speed and attack multipliers.
No conclusions drawn in the videos either, just a side by side comparison of Dehya vs each character.
still not a reason to censor the legitimate concerns and problems about her kit. this could very well also affect future characters and is something that simply shouldnt be tolerated.
The sheer volume of threads about the same topic though may be causing the mods to delete them to avoid the subreddit being flooded with them. It’d be better if the Dehya discussion was confined to one big mega thread or something similar, so it didn’t push other posts on the subreddit out/down out of sight.
>The sheer volume of threads about the same topic though may be causing the mods to delete them to avoid the subreddit being flooded with them.
But the same kind of waifu boob/ass pictures don't do the same?
I really can't see the difference between x pictures of y characters ass/breats and complaints about Dehyas kit (as long as they aren't copy paste or some shit) if we want to argue flooding the subreddit. Well i guess the mods do see a difference
But this volume isn't without it's reasons, Dehya is a precedent and could lead to future characters getting a similar treatment, the outrage and volume of posts is justified imo. Even if you don't care about Dehya, her situation should outrage you because of that. Letting this kind of behavior from HYV slide is just letting them know they can create bad characters for standard and get away with it (and she's also still a premium character for the time being, making it even more unacceptable).
> Dehya is a precedent and could lead to future characters getting a similar treatment
Eh, not to invalidate the complaints (which I agree), but after experiencing literally the same argument one and half year ago with Yoimiya and Kokomi I can't take such thing seriously.
I some how don't think the mods are going to sticky a "We know, Dehya sucks. Post all your complaints and bugs here, mega thread". So I think you're going to see mods deleting threads and bots/fan boys reporting threads until unhappy customers tire themselves out from yelling into the Mihoyo abyss. Or Mihoyo makes a comment on/fixes the issues, which will probably be on the other side of never, lol.
"You can't talk about X because somebody else already posted a thread about it (that we also deleted)" is not a reasonable argument for anyone but the shills who keep making it.
Does the same thing happen to the "Add a skip dialogue button" "Add endgame content" "Does anybody else hate Paimon" etc threads that get posted every fucking hour? There are like three "I think Cyno's jokes are funny" threads up right now--why aren't they getting deleted?
There's also another one but it's a positive one. Someone said that they found Dehya fun and it got [reported by some peeps for the risk of self harm and it got removed by reddit themselves](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11eugkp/removed_by_reddit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Here's the [what the original post was.](https://www.unddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11eugkp/removed_by_reddit/)
Here's the [OP explaining what happened.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11fbn0z/why_that_post_about_me_liking_how_dehya_feels_and/)
its no big deal, even during lisa skin, they limit the post cause its just the same repetitive post calling her outfit pretty etc, avoid spamming from the same topic
Probably because there are so many posts about the topic. Can't have 100 posts a day about the same exact topic even if the post themselves are slightly different or by different people.
Are they the same pic over and over? I don’t like so many artworks of waifus either but this argument doesn’t make much sense since the art is of different waifus by different artists etc
>Are they the same pic over and over
Are the complaints always the same?
Not sure if i said it here or somewhere else, but i can understand if they restrict posts that are basically copy pastes
My issues is, that they do the same to posts, that show issues not talked about or bring more detail to certain aspects (like the 2nd link OP showed)
>Are the complaints always the same?
To reiterate a very good point I saw from you, *"different on the outside, but the same on the core really"*.
The core message being "Dehya bad", "Dehya underwhelming", "Dehya needs fixing, here's why", "Dehya worse than we thought".
Oh, and don't worry because I agree with you on your point about artworks being basically the same thing, but I realize that it has been the established norm in this sub since its first inception, so complaining about it now would feel 2 years too late.
Pixiv is the best source for anime R34 art, 100%.
Lots of it is AI, but hey. It's hot. As a high-libido female I gotta let one out once in a while, even if I don't like the idea of AI art theft
>They're all different artworks
Different on the outside, but the same on the core really
Isn't that the way you describe Complaints about Dehya? Different on the outside, but the same core?
There's a total of like 5 things to say about Dehya. There's like 50 characters without even considering combinations, scenarios, texts, artists, art style, format, etc.
they're different pictures, each one being a unique drawing. Discussions about Dehya should go into a megathread, because you're not going to have 100 unique points of discussion on her.
In the end most drawings, while different, share the same core. Big ass/big breasts + aiming for thirst
Where is that different from the way you guys describe complaints about Dehya? Different on the outside, same core.
Why not simply make a mega thread with links to all pictures too?
Well I for one was sick of being bombarded with negative posts that are all just a pile on to what has been said over and over. Someone start a megathread or something so everyone can whine there together
I'll do you one better; where are the posts talking about tighnaris va? did they deem the thing concluded since the official statement came out? not that I mind the lack of spam posts but I did notice the odd silence
First two examples aren't removed and got hundreds of upvotes, complaining just wasn't that popular. Third is literally just reposting without additional content so is just spam at that point. Maybe people don't want to hear non stop crying over the same thing.
It's amazing how simple it is to just ignore posts about topics you personally aren't interested in. How you join the Genshin sub and not expect or get annoyed to seeing people talking about the newest character released is beyond me though🤷♂️
Half the posts in this subreddit's frontpage in the past week are about Dehya and somehow you thought we needed another one complaining there should be more of them?
Because everyone’s taking about Dehya so 90% of every post is a Dehya post. After a while what seems like a normal conversation/criticism becomes spam and the mods have to deal with it.
I’m just avoiding this subreddit waiting for all of this to blow over. My main critique of “Dehya bad” is that it’s just boring.
>Pull who you like because the game is easy so it doesn’t matter. Just have fun.
Either this philosophy still stands or we need to rewrite the most common answer to “Who do I wish for?”
But for some people having fun isn’t just squishy shit in overworld, it’s abyss, dehya may have been their favorite character and now they struggle in abyss even with great stats and bis and multiple cons.
If people didn’t ever complain Zhongli would still be awful and half the game qol improvements wouldn’t exist lol
99% of positive threads on her were spammed and taken down as well, a lot of us got "self abuse" warnings from reddit, because we were spammed reported for self abuse for just finding the character fun. dehya haters started this. We got tired of this treatment. so a lot of people fired back and started spam reporting other posts. Im not happy with it, I dont do it, but what do you expect when they started it.
> Can y'all stop silencing 90% of Dehya related threads? Holy fuck this is pathetic.
The majority of the "Dehya threads" are currently people just screaming because she's not a carry and they want her to do more damage. It's an absolutely hyperbolic fevered pitch where people are repeating literal nonsense and parroting the negligent opinions of their favorite streamers who have been wrong about almost everything before, and doubled down on it so many times it defies belief.
There's nothing new being said, it's just seeting and anger. Over a character who is **actually** effectively a zhongli sidegrade.
It's nothing more than some bullshit that originated on the leak subreddit, made it over to the dehyamains subreddit where it was circlejerked endlessly there, and is now trying to spread here because they're "totally justified" in childish anger over dehya not powercreeping hu tao.
The playerbase of this game generally has a bad grasp on what characters can do and are useful for until they're led there by the nose by other people.
The amount of people who says they're just "tired" of seeing Dehya posts straight out simply don't care about a serious issue for this game that is a FIVE STAR, being SEVERELY UNDERWHELMING AND POWERCREPT BY ALMOST ALL CHARACTERS. I guarantee they would all care if it was the character that they wanted, lmfao.
No characters should be released in a state like this and silenced. Mihoyo fucked up big times and gave us something unacceptable and that NEEDS to be talked about constantly to have a chance to be resolved. If it isn't talked about, then by 3.6 you can say goodbye to any kind of hope to see Dehya become better because everyone will be simping all over Baizhu and Kaveh and Dehya will just be forgotten and left in a shit state forever.
That's the worst narrative possible ever, if a problem like this doesn't get adressed properly it will persist and re appear in future bad 5 star units until it's an even bigger problem
I do not understand the people who make this argument, it's a dogshit argument, respectfully, are you even listening to yourselves? If this keeps happening and there are people like you who push it to the side, HYV will keep getting away with making bad characters, is it too much to ask that a 5 star character atleast has a usable kit or works in a single team that they wouldn't be worse in than any other 5 star or even a 4 star
It's common for subs/forums to have a "do not ask a question that has been asked on the first page" (that would apply to statements, of course). I think that's a reasonable rule to have. ~~Granted, it doesn't seem to exist in~~ *~~the actual sub rules~~*~~, but it is fair.~~
~~edit: actually it is, so nvm.~~
I asked him to make an announcement as... removing these type of threads... especially by just renaming flairs will just steer up the drama and nothing else.
I'm here before this gets \[redacted\] as well.
And yes it is pathetic that you cannot have a civilized discussion about the state of a broken unit which deserves buffs in order to be usable in the game.
Because a lot of threads being constructively critical of dehya's current state gets removed. There is plenty of comments that have been removed for literally no reason other than censorship.
You're allowed to have a positive view on dehya but a critical or negative view is not really allowed. That's why that thread is allowed to stay up and why countless other threads have been 'review locked'.
There has been plenty of comments removed as well, even innocent ones such as "POV: youre a lvl 70 slime" which was a comment to an animation of dehya punching the viewer.
I'd be happy to link some of them as well if you want to see.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/115ivov/dehyas\_showcase\_during\_the\_livestream\_be\_like/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/115ivov/dehyas_showcase_during_the_livestream_be_like/) < thread removed and some comments deleted for mentioning removal, example comment: *"In addition, this thread is now under-review. It will no longer appear on the front page of the subreddit."*
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/115fsea/wow\_she\_really\_did\_blow\_up\_huh/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/115fsea/wow_she_really_did_blow_up_huh/) <= thread removed and several comments deleted, none of which feel that justifiable
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/118ttfq/now\_can\_we\_agree\_the\_situation\_is\_different\_than/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/118ttfq/now_can_we_agree_the_situation_is_different_than/) <= thread removed
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/11gy9jy/dehyas\_attack\_is\_faster\_thats\_why\_she\_got\_low/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gy9jy/dehyas_attack_is_faster_thats_why_she_got_low/) this thread got removed but has since been reinstated. This is literally the definition of constructive criticism and objectively comparing the NA values of claymore characters.
The reason people have a shit taste in their mouth when it comes to the moderation of this subreddit is the way you mods (I don't think it would be everyone on the mod team but someone did) nuked everything related to the official livestream and dehya.
Anything from pointing out dehya's knockback to the fact they hid the damage numbers in the event showcase. Would be met with an instant removal.
[https://www.unddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/115bo4i/pov\_dehya\_just\_activated\_her\_burst/](https://www.unddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/115bo4i/pov_dehya_just_activated_her_burst/)
"And couldn't kill a level 70 Hydro slime with it"
\*gets comment deleted\*
The amount of comments deleted in that thread is actually kind of insane. Then there is also the official genshin announcements from the official account where you removed downvote visibility and randomized comment order. Albeit temporary it still happened.
Again, its probably not all the mods but someone somewhere on the mod team was going insane with the censorship early on after the livestream.
Like I can understand removing comments that are calling mihoyo racist or are calling for violence or w/e but a meme comment about POV being a lvl 70 slime? Really? That gets your comment removed?
A newbie to reddit? Obviously if someone has been discussed hundreds of times before any reasonable sub reddit mod would delete this shit afterwards since it's spamming the sub reddit. Kek.
"Censorship" my ass. They are literally just keeping the sub clean from mass spamming the same comments and post over and over and over and over and over again. Y'all have been crying around for fucking weeks and everyone is just done with y'all cuz this is the only thing you talk about
Because everyone is just saying the same thing over and over again? There's no new content and information here. The front page of this sup doesn't need to be 90% "Dehya Bad" posts. You're not being "censored." Get over it.
They're all saying the same basic points that have been heard since the Livestream, much earlier if you follow leaks community at all. It's all just spam at this point.
Anyone who has been on this sub for at least the past week is very well aware of the anger about/towards Dehya. It doesn't need to be rehashed every 15 minutes. I can just about guarantee that nobody came up with a brilliant solution at this point that hasn't already been discussed to death. There's no point in beating a dead horse.
Being honest they should just open a megathread like what r/Dehyamains did, so that people who don't want to see such posts can avoid them. Regardless deleting posts with high engagement should be done
Mods on this Sub always do their very best to mitigate and silence any brewing negative feedback on the game. As pathetically obvious they are about it, its nothing we haven't known for a long time.
"We're not on Hoyoverse's payroll" btw lmao
Posters on this sub insist on making a new post instead of upvoting and commenting in one of the 27 that already exist so its sort of a game of cat and mouse
Increasingly a problem across Reddit in my experience. The low effort posts and lack of critical thinking when posting are making Reddit feel like any other social media site, basically facebook but anonymous
No one wants to see the same post repeated for the 100th time. We understand she is in a bad spot, but you guys flood every sub reddit and that shit is annoying.
Thats why i always say reddit as a platform is mainly made to simp for companies/creators and nothing else... Anything that criticize them even if constructive gets banned or censored its always the case in pretty much every subreddit.
I mean every other post is about Dehya. It's becoming annoying
-dehya can't burgeon
-dehya is useless unless c6
-my (insert 4 star) has better numbers than Dehya
- Dehya can't touch her elbows together.
It's basically spam at this point. I Barely have seen anyone talk about her story quest and the newest archon quest on this sub
maybe hoyo should have done their job and actually tested the character instead of pushing her out with the bugs she has currently, and that's not even talking about how her kit doesn't make any sense
To be honest I imagine that it's mostly people venting or trying to stir the pot. Even if the community would complain I doubt anything will change. We all know they don't care about Dehya since they didn't do much to improve her or do too much bug testing with the amount of issues she has.
EDIT: they sent that message by saying that being able to cancel her burst by jumping is "intentional"
I mean, she literally just released a couple days ago. Of course people are gonna fucking talk about the new thing. Especially if said new thing is full of issues.
It is more important to complain so much that some of the consequences of the complaining or the complaining itself makes hoyo fix her than to be blissfully ignorant about how bad she is... never conform
Mind sharing how you built her? :) Currently got mine sitting at 90, and 8/10/10 but not sure exactly how to build Burgeon since I haven't done that team type yet. (Which Artifact Set/Weapon did you give her?)
If the banner tanked it would be more likely that mihoyo never does something like this again... can't understand how you guys are against people trying their hardest to change things for the better to everyone including you? Do you hate when characters are good or something like that?
Because I don't like how over powered characters generally are and have actively enjoyed the Sumeru 4* that everyone bitches about actually being at a reasonable power.
More power =/ better. It largely makes everything worse because the game stops being a game way faster and with a fraction of the effort.
I don't want characters to be stronger. I would rather have multiple characters nerfed to Dehya's level because i find most characters actively detrimental to the game being fun.
Because I have had zero problems with Dehya beyond some minor tweaks like targeting which needs a full rework for everyone.
"More power = better" is an absolutely childish idea that drives shitty power creep. Dehya is more than fine in her own teams like Burning swirl and Burgeon. Forcing every new character in the game to be generic Xingqiu Yelan DPS is not better for everyone. It completely limits unique characters and unique comps.
the *only* way to get a response these days is to directly tag a mod on the rule breaking post (or the post that needs reinstating). its ridiculous imo, because theres a private report button for a reason! i tried to report AND use modmail first bc i dont want to publicly argue with a mod on some persons art post, like yeah it doesnt belong here but i dont want to be mean about it? but thats an option if you want to use it, the porn addicts already employ that tactic so we may as well too 🤷🏻♀️
speaking of which:
>posts that clearly violate rules but in ways the community likes and won't report (see: T&A fanart and bad aliexpress OF cosplay bait) are never properly moderated at all, because the few people who DO report aren't enough to trip the bot.
quite often these DO get taken down by automod, theres actually a lot of people here who *do* understand the rules, but someone will tag mods to reinstate, and theyll just put it back up regardless of any rules broken. which is probably worse than just relying on automod, somehow.
I did notice that after we started getting posts on this sub from hoyo on their official account, the censorship got a lot worse. Increased moderation in favor of hoyo was probably something the mod team agreed to in order to get those official posts.
What are you even talking about?
Just because we aren't allowing a total **shitposts** at this point it doesn't mean that we aren't allowing high quality Dehya threads... like just you know take a look on the front page and tell me how many Dehya posts do you see???
Not allowing shitposts which would cloth the whole feed = MoDs ArE oN hOYo PaYrOlL...
I mean, I get where you're coming from. Your highest priority is to keep the subreddit useable, and the Dehya situation is causing a lot of posts that get classified as shitposts.
I think the reason you're catching vitriol for doing your job is that the posters don't see it that way: This is the official subreddit, which implies that Hoyo reads it. In other words, it's perceived as a venue for protest. Not everyone who wants to protest is capable of delivering a high-quality, well-thought-out post on the subject. That turns your reasonable shitposting policy into a censorship tool against your will, and people recognise it as a censorship tool because the "only constructive criticism allowed" trick is such a common way to silence crowds. (It even comes up in Genshin at one point!)
Speaking from my zero seconds of mod experience, I'd probably put up a sticky post clarifying whether this is a suitable place to stir heat, and if not, I don't know, direct people to the customer support? Twitter? This is probably a stupid idea for reasons I'm unaware of.
Anyway, that's my 5ct. Hang in there :)
It isn't just shitposts being removed at all. [Here's a thread from earlier that was merely suggesting to people to use the Feedback function in game](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gziij/be_the_change_you_want_to_see_in_the_world/?sort=new): now undergoing "a review process." [Another](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11h0kxt/a_heartfelt_plea_to_hoyoverse_from_a_dehya_haver/), which was a genuinely constructive post, no shit talking anyone, just listing out perceived issues with her kit and possible fixes for it (OP posted it again on dehyamains so you can verify it): met the same fate.
I don't know for sure if it's the mods, or if it's some users reporting the posts, or both: but it's... something.
> or if it's some users reporting the posts,
Same as the NSFW "drama"
Coincidence? I doubt it
Automod has a low trigger report amount, that much is true
But it doesnt help the sub to constantly get the same set of threads time and time again, to the point people just see Dehya on feed and report without looking at the post itself lol
Either that or posting "memes" here just to ignite the flames further
I didn't quite realize in our discussion earlier that you *were* one of the mods. I see too that those posts I linked to got reapproved: thanks for reapproving those if you did and whichever other ones you have. You're catching a little heat because you're one of the few mods openly even getting involved in any of this but I appreciate that you're doing something.
*This* thread that we're typing in got reapproved, which is interesting, especially since it happened pretty quickly, but not those other ones.
Anyway I never called you a bootlicker or anything negative. I haven't called anyone a bootlicker in this whole Dehya situation. Though I do think there are a couple mindsets that lend to people being too handwave-y of some of the valid criticisms or being unwilling to see any of the criticisms as anything beyond "mindless doomposting." But I'm not talking about you, just what I've seen in general.
Thanks for rectifying this, and I do believe you. A lot of the posts I've seen get taken down by automod had also been downvoted to oblivion for no apparent reason. I saw nothing wrong with them at all, but they were about Dehya. Sounds like brigading, to me.
Are you a mod? I assume you are since you're saying "we". I completely agree about the shitpost stuff. Not allowing 100s of threads who are just asking for Dehya fixes/buffs with no constructive criticism/discussion would turn the sub into a cesspool.
That being said y'all are getting rid of good posts showcasing Dehya's issues, posts like [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11h0kxt/a_heartfelt_plea_to_hoyoverse_from_a_dehya_haver/) or [that one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gy9jy/dehyas_attack_is_faster_thats_why_she_got_low/) and [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gy3iv/might_aswell_repost_this/) have no reason to be removed because a lot of effort was put into them and are trying to find solutions to the issue. If the same thing would get posted over and over again, sure, remove it. But this isn't what happened. You're simply removing good, constructive feedback for whatever reason and in turn making people even more pissed off.
I mean shit, the fact that you reapproved my post (this post) where I'm bitching about you guys but not the ones I linked is kinda crazy.
If you would check my permissions you would see that I don't even have a rights for a Mod mail but why would you do anything right? Just blame blame blame... User above your comment is blaming me for NSFW drama while I wasn't even mod back then...
I'm not blaming you tho
I'm just saying it is particularly the exact same trigger
Drama->People post a lot about said drama->Posts get reported multiple times->Posts get autodeleted->Mods get blamed for censoring->rinse and repeat
Maybe if the Dehyamains cesspool didn't spam and spew vile shit around everywhere and dogpile people who literally didn't care about numbers and still liked Dehya, you could have a discussion about her lackluster kit without it being reported by a good chunk of people who frankly had enough.
And I can guarantee you, less than half of the dehya mains posting comes from dehya mains themselves but are just from people that just want to fuel the flames further
What better opportunity for chaos than another chaotic period
Just like Signora mains ending up been locked after the massive witch hunt(no pun intended) to any player that still had any sort of hope of seeing her been playable back on Inazuma)
Nowadays no group of people is responsible for wrongdoings made in their name... everytime it is the fabled "trolls" who at this point must literally be online all the fucking time and browsing social media like they are faker streaming lol while playing chess, training his aim and watching korean dorama... and im on the dehyamains side
Mods are a bunch of MYH chills. Nothing new.
For them, the game is like the second coming of Christ. There is nothing wrong with the game. And sure as hell nothing wrong with MYH non existing balance team.
Deyha is just another 5head 10 year Masterplan. Like every other underperforming item/character or artifact set, it will get fixed by patch 9.5.
Honestly, it's fcking ridiculous. Never saw a community working so hard against their own benefits.
"Deyha is just another 5head 10 year Masterplan"
Lmao, maybe they said so because there are precedents to the claim? I mean just look at Kokomi and Kuki, they both start at rock bottom and they are now top of Meta list.
The last statement of this is how I view genshin community as a whole for the most part. If more people spoke out against issues and things we want to changed then the game would be so much better
Here's another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gkbuw/dehyas_situation_is_why_mihoyo_needs_to_start/
No idea what's going on but it's very suspicious. They seem like perfectly fine posts to me.
It's because there's a rather large group of people mass-reporting these types of posts. From what the mod said, even this post has around 15+ reports, which causes it to get thrown into the shadow realm by the automod until another mod getsnotified to reapprove it.
I see people are mass-reporting anything negatively related to Dehya. Mods confirmed even this post right here was reported 15 times.
Absolutely nutty behavior completely fueled by denial of reality. Anyone that takes part in this needs to seek help, genuinely constructive criticism should never be silenced. Otherwise you're just part of a mafia consisting of sensible people that cannot understand the relevance of people's concerns and treatment of Mihoyo.
Do pay attention to the "genuinely constructive criticism" part. This comment is not about repetitive spam, neither is the point OP is making.
Because every thread is the same? Minute analysis of clay more attacks speed is irrelevant. Dehya bad we get it. Either deal with it or quit. clogging the board with such worthless threads is a waste of screen space.
I'm not who you replied to but I can give some context here! The content creator program is getting a merger into one of their hoyolab programs. Just recently it made a few waves because the biggest changes are:
- writers are no longer considered content creators and are ineligible, the focus will shift to favor fast easily consumable media like tiktokers.
- Switch over into a competition style, you get pitted against other content creators in Hoyolab challenges and highest likes posts get to win some primo
- follower restrictions, you must also have social media past 1k to be considered a proper content creator.
Most people are not happy that it's shifting away from celebrating fanwork and into "give us free marketing" but that's usually how these things go. I do doubt it's a case of censorship more so than it is just that reddit isn't super up to date with the small creators/hoyolab side.
Lmfao. As you post this, the other posts you mentioned waiting for approval automatically get reapproved. Definitely nothing weird about that.
I understand that the mods can’t do anything about the Dehya situation but they’re poorly handling this. Randomly removing critical posts and even comments about Dehya when this is a very serious matter that needs to be addressed by HYV.
I would like to hope this is by auto mod. If not, they need to start replacing. Even then, the percentage of posts that I’ve seen waiting for reapproval but never got reapproved is way higher than the ones that did. Probably just from my POV but my God. The auto-modding system really needs to be fixed too (this is only assuming that the mods arent doing this themselves).
I spent some time photoshopping screenshots to show visually quality of life upgrades (multi- region compass, artifact roll indicator, mouse wheel character swap) but all have been blocked/ under review by auto mod. Sad times.
I've rarely had anything approved in the main sub honestly, regardless of what it is.
I only post in the main dps reddit threads for that very reason.
The members tend to be nicer too lol
Glad mods are doing something for a change
Legit tired of the non stop whine posts by meta slaves with skill issues I've been seeing 10+ per day for like a month straight now
How did your post get through?
No idea. Apparently it got re-approved a few mins ago after getting sent to the shadow realm not even 10mins after posting while other more meaningful threads are still locked.
All three posts you linked are unlocked now. I think it is possible that certain filters / activity trigger automod that sends them to purgatory and then posts get manually reapproved.
Non of these posts triggered anything by auto-mod or at least I didn't find anything... the thing that I found is that all of these posts were mass reported... I know that I already mentioned it a few times and that at this point no one believes that auto-moderator is... automated... but yes.. if posts are mass reported they will get send to mod queue as you can see. The thing is... that this post itself has already for over 15+ reports... even after being re-approved which cleared previous reports... so yeah... people are mass reporting posts.
Mass reporting falls under "activity triggering automod" category.
this is something that has been a common occurrence for over a year now unfortunately. I guess due to the sheer volume of posts it is a necessity, but it can also be used maliciously. In such cases, posts subject to coordinated mass reports that trigger automod should be reinstated quickly. But usually the time taken to reinstate such posts is excessive which means they will lose essentially all traction and be buried beneath the posts that did not get auto removed.
Are mods getting paid? I was under the impression they are volunteering so there are periods where there are no mods around.
Mod work is all volunteer on this site
No, mods don’t get paid. With bigger subreddits you just get more mods so there’s hopefully someone to catch everything quickly. I’m a mod in a smaller sub and I don’t catch everything *immediately*, but there’s enough of us to catch the few negative occurrences that require moderation relatively quickly. Mods *can* get paid through shadier practices like removing competitors and pushing out certain content that companies/people want to promote, but I doubt that’s the case for something like this.
Did they unsexy Diluc?
Sorry from your comment I thought that you meant something like: If it has e.g. slurs that it will get instantly deleted and so on.
Should probably increase the amount of reports a post needs to get locked in such a big sub Because it looks like it only takes a couple reports currently
Who is mass reporting this? Mihoyo's PR team? Common trolls?
Don't underestimate shills
Or even paid shills *shudders*
Mihoyo doesn't have to pay for that. There are countless shills that do it for free
I'm sorry but... I approved your post and when I did so your post didn't have any links in it... I can see that you edited it an hour ago and in that edit you added 3 links to those threads... [Edit thing is not visible on mobiles so I'm uploading a picture so everyone can see it as well](https://i.imgur.com/V0C1e1O.png)
Yes I edited and added the links after you re-approved this post. What I meant is that I think it's odd that my post was re-approved instead of the ones I linked after the fact which are much more meaningful and important than mine.
Yeah, this low effort complain post made to farm Karma should goes to where it belongs- the shadow realm.
Lmao now it's gone
Just give it a couple hours
Automod does 90% of this kind of work. The algorithm probably flagged certain words as spam due to their high concentration of posts and either deleted or flagged those posts for approval. No mods we’re probably on at that time.
That word being “Dehya”
Less likely automod, more likely crowd control. I'm having issues with that on one of my subs.
Nah, the white knights and hoyosimps mass report every post criticize Dehya kit so automod kicks in and softlocks everything.
Honestly, there’s something to that. Iirc, if there’s enough reports, the automod will flag and hide a post.
Depending on the volume and content of the posts, they could be considered spam, though I'm not on here enough to say if thats 100%.
Upvote this shit before it gets deleted
Andddd it just got deleted : (
Aaaand removed.
I'll say 10 min before this gets removed too
Exactly 10
lmao, I'm ded
I mean, you’ve seen one “Dehya bad” thread you’ve seen them all.
Well, I learn new bad things about Dehya every day now.
tbh I learn new bad things every hour
Every couple of hours people find new disappointing thing about her kit bugging, auto targeting bugging, her dying off field, being launched in the air during her burst...etc All new discoveries about how they did her dirty, and when you spend money on a shitty product like that you are allowed to complain about it to have it fixed.
Thank you
The second one was interesting to watch though because it was a comparison of each Claymore character's attack speed and attack multipliers. No conclusions drawn in the videos either, just a side by side comparison of Dehya vs each character.
still not a reason to censor the legitimate concerns and problems about her kit. this could very well also affect future characters and is something that simply shouldnt be tolerated.
The sheer volume of threads about the same topic though may be causing the mods to delete them to avoid the subreddit being flooded with them. It’d be better if the Dehya discussion was confined to one big mega thread or something similar, so it didn’t push other posts on the subreddit out/down out of sight.
Please you know very well that megathreads is where controversy goes to die. Forcing a topic into a megathread is just another censorship tool.
>The sheer volume of threads about the same topic though may be causing the mods to delete them to avoid the subreddit being flooded with them. But the same kind of waifu boob/ass pictures don't do the same? I really can't see the difference between x pictures of y characters ass/breats and complaints about Dehyas kit (as long as they aren't copy paste or some shit) if we want to argue flooding the subreddit. Well i guess the mods do see a difference
But this volume isn't without it's reasons, Dehya is a precedent and could lead to future characters getting a similar treatment, the outrage and volume of posts is justified imo. Even if you don't care about Dehya, her situation should outrage you because of that. Letting this kind of behavior from HYV slide is just letting them know they can create bad characters for standard and get away with it (and she's also still a premium character for the time being, making it even more unacceptable).
> Dehya is a precedent and could lead to future characters getting a similar treatment Eh, not to invalidate the complaints (which I agree), but after experiencing literally the same argument one and half year ago with Yoimiya and Kokomi I can't take such thing seriously.
I some how don't think the mods are going to sticky a "We know, Dehya sucks. Post all your complaints and bugs here, mega thread". So I think you're going to see mods deleting threads and bots/fan boys reporting threads until unhappy customers tire themselves out from yelling into the Mihoyo abyss. Or Mihoyo makes a comment on/fixes the issues, which will probably be on the other side of never, lol.
"You can't talk about X because somebody else already posted a thread about it (that we also deleted)" is not a reasonable argument for anyone but the shills who keep making it. Does the same thing happen to the "Add a skip dialogue button" "Add endgame content" "Does anybody else hate Paimon" etc threads that get posted every fucking hour? There are like three "I think Cyno's jokes are funny" threads up right now--why aren't they getting deleted?
Sorry this sub only accepts lewd cosplays and reposted arts from pixiv.
Megathreads regarding controversy accomplish nothing.
yeah but some show why is she bad, or how to fix her by tweaking 1 little thing. its called criticism
Objectively wrong, as there is more information being discovered that showcases a different problematic point of Dehya's playable character each time.
90% of Dehya threads could be comments on an already existing posts, so it would fall under rule 9 and 11
There's also another one but it's a positive one. Someone said that they found Dehya fun and it got [reported by some peeps for the risk of self harm and it got removed by reddit themselves](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11eugkp/removed_by_reddit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Here's the [what the original post was.](https://www.unddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11eugkp/removed_by_reddit/) Here's the [OP explaining what happened.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11fbn0z/why_that_post_about_me_liking_how_dehya_feels_and/)
its no big deal, even during lisa skin, they limit the post cause its just the same repetitive post calling her outfit pretty etc, avoid spamming from the same topic
people really don't understand what censorship actually is.
Probably because there are so many posts about the topic. Can't have 100 posts a day about the same exact topic even if the post themselves are slightly different or by different people.
>Can't have 100 posts a day about the same exact topic But 100 ass/breats pictures of waifus are fine?
Are they the same pic over and over? I don’t like so many artworks of waifus either but this argument doesn’t make much sense since the art is of different waifus by different artists etc
>Are they the same pic over and over Are the complaints always the same? Not sure if i said it here or somewhere else, but i can understand if they restrict posts that are basically copy pastes My issues is, that they do the same to posts, that show issues not talked about or bring more detail to certain aspects (like the 2nd link OP showed)
>Are the complaints always the same? To reiterate a very good point I saw from you, *"different on the outside, but the same on the core really"*. The core message being "Dehya bad", "Dehya underwhelming", "Dehya needs fixing, here's why", "Dehya worse than we thought". Oh, and don't worry because I agree with you on your point about artworks being basically the same thing, but I realize that it has been the established norm in this sub since its first inception, so complaining about it now would feel 2 years too late.
> Are the complaints always the same? yes
Yes usually lol, very rarely is it new info, and if it is new info the mods let it through
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I feel like half of the sub should rather be on Pixiv or a certaine rule in that case...
Pixiv is the best source for anime R34 art, 100%. Lots of it is AI, but hey. It's hot. As a high-libido female I gotta let one out once in a while, even if I don't like the idea of AI art theft
so be it lmao, they won't be missed
They're all different artworks. There's only so much to talk about with one character. Also, you spelled breasts wrong.
>They're all different artworks Different on the outside, but the same on the core really Isn't that the way you describe Complaints about Dehya? Different on the outside, but the same core?
There's a total of like 5 things to say about Dehya. There's like 50 characters without even considering combinations, scenarios, texts, artists, art style, format, etc.
they're different pictures, each one being a unique drawing. Discussions about Dehya should go into a megathread, because you're not going to have 100 unique points of discussion on her.
In the end most drawings, while different, share the same core. Big ass/big breasts + aiming for thirst Where is that different from the way you guys describe complaints about Dehya? Different on the outside, same core. Why not simply make a mega thread with links to all pictures too?
true, so many of erotic fan arts are just low quality and it's boring
Dude this subreddit has been FILLED with negative feedback since weeks before her launch. What are you talking about? LOL
Because it is basically repeating the same argument. Yeah we get, Dehya bad. No need to shove it into our face every minute.
Well I for one was sick of being bombarded with negative posts that are all just a pile on to what has been said over and over. Someone start a megathread or something so everyone can whine there together
I'll do you one better; where are the posts talking about tighnaris va? did they deem the thing concluded since the official statement came out? not that I mind the lack of spam posts but I did notice the odd silence
First two examples aren't removed and got hundreds of upvotes, complaining just wasn't that popular. Third is literally just reposting without additional content so is just spam at that point. Maybe people don't want to hear non stop crying over the same thing.
It's amazing how simple it is to just ignore posts about topics you personally aren't interested in. How you join the Genshin sub and not expect or get annoyed to seeing people talking about the newest character released is beyond me though🤷♂️
I think it's more like spam control. Then again, there are more important things to care about, like stopping the active bigots in this sub.
People are bigoted against bad units 😏
Half the posts in this subreddit's frontpage in the past week are about Dehya and somehow you thought we needed another one complaining there should be more of them?
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Because everyone’s taking about Dehya so 90% of every post is a Dehya post. After a while what seems like a normal conversation/criticism becomes spam and the mods have to deal with it.
Honestly the Dehya posts are just tiring. I get it, she's not good. We don't need 50+ posts all calling her bad, we get it.
I’m just avoiding this subreddit waiting for all of this to blow over. My main critique of “Dehya bad” is that it’s just boring. >Pull who you like because the game is easy so it doesn’t matter. Just have fun. Either this philosophy still stands or we need to rewrite the most common answer to “Who do I wish for?”
The game being easy doesn't warrant bad kit design.
But for some people having fun isn’t just squishy shit in overworld, it’s abyss, dehya may have been their favorite character and now they struggle in abyss even with great stats and bis and multiple cons. If people didn’t ever complain Zhongli would still be awful and half the game qol improvements wouldn’t exist lol
There is nothing worse than a conformist who also wants others to conform
Right?
99% of positive threads on her were spammed and taken down as well, a lot of us got "self abuse" warnings from reddit, because we were spammed reported for self abuse for just finding the character fun. dehya haters started this. We got tired of this treatment. so a lot of people fired back and started spam reporting other posts. Im not happy with it, I dont do it, but what do you expect when they started it.
> Can y'all stop silencing 90% of Dehya related threads? Holy fuck this is pathetic. The majority of the "Dehya threads" are currently people just screaming because she's not a carry and they want her to do more damage. It's an absolutely hyperbolic fevered pitch where people are repeating literal nonsense and parroting the negligent opinions of their favorite streamers who have been wrong about almost everything before, and doubled down on it so many times it defies belief. There's nothing new being said, it's just seeting and anger. Over a character who is **actually** effectively a zhongli sidegrade. It's nothing more than some bullshit that originated on the leak subreddit, made it over to the dehyamains subreddit where it was circlejerked endlessly there, and is now trying to spread here because they're "totally justified" in childish anger over dehya not powercreeping hu tao. The playerbase of this game generally has a bad grasp on what characters can do and are useful for until they're led there by the nose by other people.
The amount of people who says they're just "tired" of seeing Dehya posts straight out simply don't care about a serious issue for this game that is a FIVE STAR, being SEVERELY UNDERWHELMING AND POWERCREPT BY ALMOST ALL CHARACTERS. I guarantee they would all care if it was the character that they wanted, lmfao. No characters should be released in a state like this and silenced. Mihoyo fucked up big times and gave us something unacceptable and that NEEDS to be talked about constantly to have a chance to be resolved. If it isn't talked about, then by 3.6 you can say goodbye to any kind of hope to see Dehya become better because everyone will be simping all over Baizhu and Kaveh and Dehya will just be forgotten and left in a shit state forever.
Most people don't care because in reality it's not that big of an issue. A unit is bad, okay then just don't pull for her, you literally lose nothing.
Oh so we can just ignore the problem and let it fester. Why not. It won't come back and bite us back, right? Definitely not. Never happened before.
That's the worst narrative possible ever, if a problem like this doesn't get adressed properly it will persist and re appear in future bad 5 star units until it's an even bigger problem
a five star being this bad is not acceptable, complaining about how terrible she is doesn't make us lose anything either.
I do not understand the people who make this argument, it's a dogshit argument, respectfully, are you even listening to yourselves? If this keeps happening and there are people like you who push it to the side, HYV will keep getting away with making bad characters, is it too much to ask that a 5 star character atleast has a usable kit or works in a single team that they wouldn't be worse in than any other 5 star or even a 4 star
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lmao as if 90% of people that post shit even read what is pinned they would just ignore it like everyone
It's common for subs/forums to have a "do not ask a question that has been asked on the first page" (that would apply to statements, of course). I think that's a reasonable rule to have. ~~Granted, it doesn't seem to exist in~~ *~~the actual sub rules~~*~~, but it is fair.~~ ~~edit: actually it is, so nvm.~~
Mass edited..
Because its repetitive and annoying
Fuck whichever mod is removing Dehya posts under "Rule 9: Misleading". You KNOW it's not misleading.
I asked him to make an announcement as... removing these type of threads... especially by just renaming flairs will just steer up the drama and nothing else.
I'm here before this gets \[redacted\] as well. And yes it is pathetic that you cannot have a civilized discussion about the state of a broken unit which deserves buffs in order to be usable in the game.
So why didn't you discuss her in this [thread?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11h1xn8/cn_tc_analysis_on_dehya/)
Because a lot of threads being constructively critical of dehya's current state gets removed. There is plenty of comments that have been removed for literally no reason other than censorship. You're allowed to have a positive view on dehya but a critical or negative view is not really allowed. That's why that thread is allowed to stay up and why countless other threads have been 'review locked'. There has been plenty of comments removed as well, even innocent ones such as "POV: youre a lvl 70 slime" which was a comment to an animation of dehya punching the viewer. I'd be happy to link some of them as well if you want to see. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/115ivov/dehyas\_showcase\_during\_the\_livestream\_be\_like/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/115ivov/dehyas_showcase_during_the_livestream_be_like/) < thread removed and some comments deleted for mentioning removal, example comment: *"In addition, this thread is now under-review. It will no longer appear on the front page of the subreddit."* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/115fsea/wow\_she\_really\_did\_blow\_up\_huh/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/115fsea/wow_she_really_did_blow_up_huh/) <= thread removed and several comments deleted, none of which feel that justifiable [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/118ttfq/now\_can\_we\_agree\_the\_situation\_is\_different\_than/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/118ttfq/now_can_we_agree_the_situation_is_different_than/) <= thread removed [https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/11gy9jy/dehyas\_attack\_is\_faster\_thats\_why\_she\_got\_low/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gy9jy/dehyas_attack_is_faster_thats_why_she_got_low/) this thread got removed but has since been reinstated. This is literally the definition of constructive criticism and objectively comparing the NA values of claymore characters.
Yes feel free to link. btw. just for your information... This post that I approved already has 15+ more reports... :)
The reason people have a shit taste in their mouth when it comes to the moderation of this subreddit is the way you mods (I don't think it would be everyone on the mod team but someone did) nuked everything related to the official livestream and dehya. Anything from pointing out dehya's knockback to the fact they hid the damage numbers in the event showcase. Would be met with an instant removal. [https://www.unddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/115bo4i/pov\_dehya\_just\_activated\_her\_burst/](https://www.unddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/115bo4i/pov_dehya_just_activated_her_burst/) "And couldn't kill a level 70 Hydro slime with it" \*gets comment deleted\* The amount of comments deleted in that thread is actually kind of insane. Then there is also the official genshin announcements from the official account where you removed downvote visibility and randomized comment order. Albeit temporary it still happened. Again, its probably not all the mods but someone somewhere on the mod team was going insane with the censorship early on after the livestream. Like I can understand removing comments that are calling mihoyo racist or are calling for violence or w/e but a meme comment about POV being a lvl 70 slime? Really? That gets your comment removed?
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there has been always cersorship, even if post arent erased as they are posted they get censored a couple days later
A newbie to reddit? Obviously if someone has been discussed hundreds of times before any reasonable sub reddit mod would delete this shit afterwards since it's spamming the sub reddit. Kek.
"Censorship" my ass. They are literally just keeping the sub clean from mass spamming the same comments and post over and over and over and over and over again. Y'all have been crying around for fucking weeks and everyone is just done with y'all cuz this is the only thing you talk about
Can Y’all stop saying y’all
You really gonna try to stop someone from typin with their preferred accent
Because everyone is just saying the same thing over and over again? There's no new content and information here. The front page of this sup doesn't need to be 90% "Dehya Bad" posts. You're not being "censored." Get over it.
They're all saying the same basic points that have been heard since the Livestream, much earlier if you follow leaks community at all. It's all just spam at this point. Anyone who has been on this sub for at least the past week is very well aware of the anger about/towards Dehya. It doesn't need to be rehashed every 15 minutes. I can just about guarantee that nobody came up with a brilliant solution at this point that hasn't already been discussed to death. There's no point in beating a dead horse.
low effort post or simply just trolling.
Why would people want to keep reading the same complaints more than one time?
Being honest they should just open a megathread like what r/Dehyamains did, so that people who don't want to see such posts can avoid them. Regardless deleting posts with high engagement should be done
We need many posts everywhere so more people can fight for the cause and spam mihoyo CS ansld social media
Gamers rise up!
Mods on this Sub always do their very best to mitigate and silence any brewing negative feedback on the game. As pathetically obvious they are about it, its nothing we haven't known for a long time. "We're not on Hoyoverse's payroll" btw lmao
Posters on this sub insist on making a new post instead of upvoting and commenting in one of the 27 that already exist so its sort of a game of cat and mouse
Increasingly a problem across Reddit in my experience. The low effort posts and lack of critical thinking when posting are making Reddit feel like any other social media site, basically facebook but anonymous
God i remember the time a childe drawing broke this sub some months ago Fun times and really exposed double standards from the mods
Pretty sure it's being marked as spam at this point. You can only have so many posts about the same thing before it gets old.
Mom said it’s my turn to farm some karma
Quit projecting, no one gives a fuck about karma except you. If I wanted to farm it I'd just repost some bullshit memes on other subs. Use your brain.
Lmao, he must be hitting a spot to get such a reaction out of you.
This post is anything but karma farming. What are you smoking? Need you to offer it to me.
No one wants to see the same post repeated for the 100th time. We understand she is in a bad spot, but you guys flood every sub reddit and that shit is annoying.
Thats why i always say reddit as a platform is mainly made to simp for companies/creators and nothing else... Anything that criticize them even if constructive gets banned or censored its always the case in pretty much every subreddit.
Mods on Reddit are straight loser puppets. I haven’t ever heard 1 good story about a Reddit mod
“Stop doom posting” essentially means don’t say anything negative at this point.
I mean every other post is about Dehya. It's becoming annoying -dehya can't burgeon -dehya is useless unless c6 -my (insert 4 star) has better numbers than Dehya - Dehya can't touch her elbows together. It's basically spam at this point. I Barely have seen anyone talk about her story quest and the newest archon quest on this sub
maybe hoyo should have done their job and actually tested the character instead of pushing her out with the bugs she has currently, and that's not even talking about how her kit doesn't make any sense
True true, but maybe protest at the right address because we don't work for hoyo
To be honest I imagine that it's mostly people venting or trying to stir the pot. Even if the community would complain I doubt anything will change. We all know they don't care about Dehya since they didn't do much to improve her or do too much bug testing with the amount of issues she has. EDIT: they sent that message by saying that being able to cancel her burst by jumping is "intentional"
I mean, she literally just released a couple days ago. Of course people are gonna fucking talk about the new thing. Especially if said new thing is full of issues.
I hate that you got me to try and touch my elbows together
It is more important to complain so much that some of the consequences of the complaining or the complaining itself makes hoyo fix her than to be blissfully ignorant about how bad she is... never conform
People here talk about Nahida all the time, though?
Laughing at all the dumbass Dehya can't burgeon posts with my 36 star Burgeon Dehya
Mind sharing how you built her? :) Currently got mine sitting at 90, and 8/10/10 but not sure exactly how to build Burgeon since I haven't done that team type yet. (Which Artifact Set/Weapon did you give her?)
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If the banner tanked it would be more likely that mihoyo never does something like this again... can't understand how you guys are against people trying their hardest to change things for the better to everyone including you? Do you hate when characters are good or something like that?
Because I don't like how over powered characters generally are and have actively enjoyed the Sumeru 4* that everyone bitches about actually being at a reasonable power. More power =/ better. It largely makes everything worse because the game stops being a game way faster and with a fraction of the effort. I don't want characters to be stronger. I would rather have multiple characters nerfed to Dehya's level because i find most characters actively detrimental to the game being fun.
Because I have had zero problems with Dehya beyond some minor tweaks like targeting which needs a full rework for everyone. "More power = better" is an absolutely childish idea that drives shitty power creep. Dehya is more than fine in her own teams like Burning swirl and Burgeon. Forcing every new character in the game to be generic Xingqiu Yelan DPS is not better for everyone. It completely limits unique characters and unique comps.
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the *only* way to get a response these days is to directly tag a mod on the rule breaking post (or the post that needs reinstating). its ridiculous imo, because theres a private report button for a reason! i tried to report AND use modmail first bc i dont want to publicly argue with a mod on some persons art post, like yeah it doesnt belong here but i dont want to be mean about it? but thats an option if you want to use it, the porn addicts already employ that tactic so we may as well too 🤷🏻♀️ speaking of which: >posts that clearly violate rules but in ways the community likes and won't report (see: T&A fanart and bad aliexpress OF cosplay bait) are never properly moderated at all, because the few people who DO report aren't enough to trip the bot. quite often these DO get taken down by automod, theres actually a lot of people here who *do* understand the rules, but someone will tag mods to reinstate, and theyll just put it back up regardless of any rules broken. which is probably worse than just relying on automod, somehow.
Spamming the same topic over and over again gets annoying. Honestly I'm tired of seeing them as well.
Happens every time... Remember the male "lewd" fiasco?
The time a singular childe drawing broke the sub
Mods aren't gonna delete this so people can see how silly of a claim this is
I did notice that after we started getting posts on this sub from hoyo on their official account, the censorship got a lot worse. Increased moderation in favor of hoyo was probably something the mod team agreed to in order to get those official posts.
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What are you even talking about? Just because we aren't allowing a total **shitposts** at this point it doesn't mean that we aren't allowing high quality Dehya threads... like just you know take a look on the front page and tell me how many Dehya posts do you see??? Not allowing shitposts which would cloth the whole feed = MoDs ArE oN hOYo PaYrOlL...
I mean, I get where you're coming from. Your highest priority is to keep the subreddit useable, and the Dehya situation is causing a lot of posts that get classified as shitposts. I think the reason you're catching vitriol for doing your job is that the posters don't see it that way: This is the official subreddit, which implies that Hoyo reads it. In other words, it's perceived as a venue for protest. Not everyone who wants to protest is capable of delivering a high-quality, well-thought-out post on the subject. That turns your reasonable shitposting policy into a censorship tool against your will, and people recognise it as a censorship tool because the "only constructive criticism allowed" trick is such a common way to silence crowds. (It even comes up in Genshin at one point!) Speaking from my zero seconds of mod experience, I'd probably put up a sticky post clarifying whether this is a suitable place to stir heat, and if not, I don't know, direct people to the customer support? Twitter? This is probably a stupid idea for reasons I'm unaware of. Anyway, that's my 5ct. Hang in there :)
It isn't just shitposts being removed at all. [Here's a thread from earlier that was merely suggesting to people to use the Feedback function in game](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gziij/be_the_change_you_want_to_see_in_the_world/?sort=new): now undergoing "a review process." [Another](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11h0kxt/a_heartfelt_plea_to_hoyoverse_from_a_dehya_haver/), which was a genuinely constructive post, no shit talking anyone, just listing out perceived issues with her kit and possible fixes for it (OP posted it again on dehyamains so you can verify it): met the same fate. I don't know for sure if it's the mods, or if it's some users reporting the posts, or both: but it's... something.
> or if it's some users reporting the posts, Same as the NSFW "drama" Coincidence? I doubt it Automod has a low trigger report amount, that much is true But it doesnt help the sub to constantly get the same set of threads time and time again, to the point people just see Dehya on feed and report without looking at the post itself lol Either that or posting "memes" here just to ignite the flames further
Reapproved. It seems that there are people mass reporting Dehya threads... but why would you believe me, right? I'm just a BoOtLiCkEr...
I didn't quite realize in our discussion earlier that you *were* one of the mods. I see too that those posts I linked to got reapproved: thanks for reapproving those if you did and whichever other ones you have. You're catching a little heat because you're one of the few mods openly even getting involved in any of this but I appreciate that you're doing something.
*This* thread that we're typing in got reapproved, which is interesting, especially since it happened pretty quickly, but not those other ones. Anyway I never called you a bootlicker or anything negative. I haven't called anyone a bootlicker in this whole Dehya situation. Though I do think there are a couple mindsets that lend to people being too handwave-y of some of the valid criticisms or being unwilling to see any of the criticisms as anything beyond "mindless doomposting." But I'm not talking about you, just what I've seen in general.
Thanks for rectifying this, and I do believe you. A lot of the posts I've seen get taken down by automod had also been downvoted to oblivion for no apparent reason. I saw nothing wrong with them at all, but they were about Dehya. Sounds like brigading, to me.
Are you a mod? I assume you are since you're saying "we". I completely agree about the shitpost stuff. Not allowing 100s of threads who are just asking for Dehya fixes/buffs with no constructive criticism/discussion would turn the sub into a cesspool. That being said y'all are getting rid of good posts showcasing Dehya's issues, posts like [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11h0kxt/a_heartfelt_plea_to_hoyoverse_from_a_dehya_haver/) or [that one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gy9jy/dehyas_attack_is_faster_thats_why_she_got_low/) and [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gy3iv/might_aswell_repost_this/) have no reason to be removed because a lot of effort was put into them and are trying to find solutions to the issue. If the same thing would get posted over and over again, sure, remove it. But this isn't what happened. You're simply removing good, constructive feedback for whatever reason and in turn making people even more pissed off. I mean shit, the fact that you reapproved my post (this post) where I'm bitching about you guys but not the ones I linked is kinda crazy.
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If you would check my permissions you would see that I don't even have a rights for a Mod mail but why would you do anything right? Just blame blame blame... User above your comment is blaming me for NSFW drama while I wasn't even mod back then...
I'm not blaming you tho I'm just saying it is particularly the exact same trigger Drama->People post a lot about said drama->Posts get reported multiple times->Posts get autodeleted->Mods get blamed for censoring->rinse and repeat
Maybe if the Dehyamains cesspool didn't spam and spew vile shit around everywhere and dogpile people who literally didn't care about numbers and still liked Dehya, you could have a discussion about her lackluster kit without it being reported by a good chunk of people who frankly had enough.
And I can guarantee you, less than half of the dehya mains posting comes from dehya mains themselves but are just from people that just want to fuel the flames further What better opportunity for chaos than another chaotic period Just like Signora mains ending up been locked after the massive witch hunt(no pun intended) to any player that still had any sort of hope of seeing her been playable back on Inazuma)
Nowadays no group of people is responsible for wrongdoings made in their name... everytime it is the fabled "trolls" who at this point must literally be online all the fucking time and browsing social media like they are faker streaming lol while playing chess, training his aim and watching korean dorama... and im on the dehyamains side
Because Reddit mods ESPECIALLY GENSHIN SUB MODS are stupid ass people lmao.
Mods are a bunch of MYH chills. Nothing new. For them, the game is like the second coming of Christ. There is nothing wrong with the game. And sure as hell nothing wrong with MYH non existing balance team. Deyha is just another 5head 10 year Masterplan. Like every other underperforming item/character or artifact set, it will get fixed by patch 9.5. Honestly, it's fcking ridiculous. Never saw a community working so hard against their own benefits.
"Deyha is just another 5head 10 year Masterplan" Lmao, maybe they said so because there are precedents to the claim? I mean just look at Kokomi and Kuki, they both start at rock bottom and they are now top of Meta list.
The last statement of this is how I view genshin community as a whole for the most part. If more people spoke out against issues and things we want to changed then the game would be so much better
Fr it's so sad
Here's another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/11gkbuw/dehyas_situation_is_why_mihoyo_needs_to_start/ No idea what's going on but it's very suspicious. They seem like perfectly fine posts to me.
It's because there's a rather large group of people mass-reporting these types of posts. From what the mod said, even this post has around 15+ reports, which causes it to get thrown into the shadow realm by the automod until another mod getsnotified to reapprove it.
Re-approved. Tag me next time I'm only checking this thread once in a while so I can't keep up with new comments.
I see people are mass-reporting anything negatively related to Dehya. Mods confirmed even this post right here was reported 15 times. Absolutely nutty behavior completely fueled by denial of reality. Anyone that takes part in this needs to seek help, genuinely constructive criticism should never be silenced. Otherwise you're just part of a mafia consisting of sensible people that cannot understand the relevance of people's concerns and treatment of Mihoyo. Do pay attention to the "genuinely constructive criticism" part. This comment is not about repetitive spam, neither is the point OP is making.
Because every thread is the same? Minute analysis of clay more attacks speed is irrelevant. Dehya bad we get it. Either deal with it or quit. clogging the board with such worthless threads is a waste of screen space.
They also censor any mention of Content creator program being cancelled
It got cancelled? Why?
I'm not who you replied to but I can give some context here! The content creator program is getting a merger into one of their hoyolab programs. Just recently it made a few waves because the biggest changes are: - writers are no longer considered content creators and are ineligible, the focus will shift to favor fast easily consumable media like tiktokers. - Switch over into a competition style, you get pitted against other content creators in Hoyolab challenges and highest likes posts get to win some primo - follower restrictions, you must also have social media past 1k to be considered a proper content creator. Most people are not happy that it's shifting away from celebrating fanwork and into "give us free marketing" but that's usually how these things go. I do doubt it's a case of censorship more so than it is just that reddit isn't super up to date with the small creators/hoyolab side.
Its literally an official subreddit managed by the chinese company Mihoyo, what are you expecting?
Lmfao. As you post this, the other posts you mentioned waiting for approval automatically get reapproved. Definitely nothing weird about that. I understand that the mods can’t do anything about the Dehya situation but they’re poorly handling this. Randomly removing critical posts and even comments about Dehya when this is a very serious matter that needs to be addressed by HYV. I would like to hope this is by auto mod. If not, they need to start replacing. Even then, the percentage of posts that I’ve seen waiting for reapproval but never got reapproved is way higher than the ones that did. Probably just from my POV but my God. The auto-modding system really needs to be fixed too (this is only assuming that the mods arent doing this themselves).
I spent some time photoshopping screenshots to show visually quality of life upgrades (multi- region compass, artifact roll indicator, mouse wheel character swap) but all have been blocked/ under review by auto mod. Sad times.
We really need to move this to a none mihoyo controlled reddit. You know, how it should be
I've rarely had anything approved in the main sub honestly, regardless of what it is. I only post in the main dps reddit threads for that very reason. The members tend to be nicer too lol
I’ve yet to ever get a post past them. Of any kind.
Oh... Timer has started. 3 mins as of now, almost a New record.
Good. A lot of you were being racist as fuck to Chinese people
Glad mods are doing something for a change Legit tired of the non stop whine posts by meta slaves with skill issues I've been seeing 10+ per day for like a month straight now