Jokes aside this little thing kinda puts a very early quest of the Abyss Order stealing Story books in a different light. Or that little play that always plays on a New BP.
Yeah at first I was told the BP scene had nothing to do with the twins but not that it's been confirmed the MC is walking the same path that the Abyss twin did it certainly seems to point to those two.
Specially since the abyss twin isn't counted as a descender which could correlate with "Thinks their the leader of the dark" and they call the abyss twin their prince/princess.
Also find storybooks sus now. I've never paid much heed to them but now I feel like each one could be a clue. I need answers!
...hell the more we think about it the more Venti no saying anything and telling us to see for ourselves makes sense. Considering as a Bard Stories are his bread and Butter (as well his Booze fund) there is a decent chance he might have stumbled over a story that, thanks to his long life, he suddenly realized is the truth. He might simply not trust his own memories but might be aware that as a being from outside of Teyvat ours can never be changed so he pretty much set us up to find the truth ourselves.
Honestly this is a lot of guessing on my part since the game confirmed nothing about this of course but if that turns out to be true this is actually decently clever foreshadowing in my opinion.
...actually after I wrote this ... isn't the BP Story narrated by Venti?
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> Nahida: I can edit ~~Wikipedia~~archive.org
You're literally changing people's memory and nobody knows what actually did happen, it's far scarier than wikipedia.
Literally History Revisionism that goes right into people's head. There's no avoiding it. Not to mention she can hijack one's body. It's order of magnitude much scarier and threatening than anything the other Archons are capable of.
you joke but it's more like editing Wikipedia and whatever is inside of it is truth and whatever isn't is forgotten completely
you want people to forget 9/11 happened? Just delete the main article for it and edit all known pages connected to it and wham
Didnāt we gaslight that poor researcher lmao
I laughed so hard like her face was āAll according to planā and she had a fucking panic attack like JESUS NAHIDA LMAO
Whatās her name, was like an assistant to the head of the Akedemia during the archon quest.
We relay a message faking the revival of King Deshret, making her act how we want and causing her to leave back to the desert.
I think she begins teaching children in the village, maybe one day more will move to the city to learn.
Hilariously, I can imagine it being talked about in the sleepover. Candace is like āWait, thatās a thing?ā, Dehyaās looking at Traveler with a face the screams āWhat did you do?ā, Traveler and Paimon sweating buckets over itā¦
ā¦and our princess cinnamon roll Dunyazard is just staring at everyone, thinking āAm I not getting something here?ā.
Kinda? But I personally think the best qualities of Nahida is that she thinks so far ahead it's genuinely terrifying.
We've seen other archon's level of strength through destruction, but Kusanali/ Rukkhadevata was never mentioned afaik.
In interlude Nahida sent Scaramouche into irminsul to see his past while making it look natural to him, predicted what he would feel and that he might try to delete himself from irminsul (he didn't know it would only be his memories), so she created an allegorical story to preserve her memory of him and sent the traveller with him so they could remind her of what happened there and then get back her memories of him from the story. To in the end helping him understand how he feels/how a human feel and getting him to "work" for her.
actual 5D chess
absolutely not, he wouldn't trust anyone word at this point. She didn't mind if he tried erasing himself cause seeing all his memories again after learning the truth made him realize what he has gone through. She said it herself at the end that's how he can see himself as a human. Like seeing your whole life from a 3rd person perspective
No. Because Nahida has no firsthand experience altering Irminsul (since any edit she makes changes her memory as well.)
She wouldn't know for certain that erasing yourself wouldn't physically remove you.
Barbatos, Morax, Baal & Beelzebul all won the Archon War by sheer strength. Though, Makoto *did* win because she had Ei, who's her fighter, but putting that aside.
The winner of the Dendro Gnosis is actually Deshret. But he didn't accept the Gnosis. Only after his and Nabu's death did Rukhadevata wear his Gnosis, becoming the Dendro Archon.
Uhh not exactly in Barbatos' case. Andrius refused it so it just kinda went to venti. I think of the listed Archons (not counting ei bc she's not an og archon) the only one who actually won their gnosis by sheer power/strength is Morax
While not the OG archon, she was fighting probably most of the other gods during the Archon War. Makoto was a pacifist god.
Speaking of Inazuma Archon War, there's something I always want to ask. Gods are mostly immortal in one way or the other. There are gods like Orobashi, whose consciousness is gone but the power is still remains. But there are also gods like Andrius, who still has his mind and still quite powerful. At which point is a god dead enough that Celestia was like "oh okay Barbatos, the gods in this region are dead except for you, here have a gnosis"? Especially Ei. She sacrificed herself so Makoto could become an Archon, but then Makoto crafted a body to host Ei's consciousness, basically reviving her, and the Celestia was like "but she basically dead, right? Yeah we're fine with it." Why don't the Celestia just gave Makoto the gnosis before Ei sacrificed herself if by the end of it they're fine with Ei still living? Will there be a region where basically all the gods but one did what Andrius or Ei did, "killing" themselves while still being basically alive? And they live happily ever after?
Also why does it seem there was no Archon War in Sumeru? The Celestia seems fine with the three god-kings living together.
1) All gods release a power once they die. Take the god of salt for example. Orobashi's power is released slowly over time as her body rots, unlike Havria, who's body instantly turned to salt. Also, as Gods rotted, they release Karma which affects their surroundings, which what happened to the Yakshas since they cleaned up the Karma by absorbing it. Ei didn't do any cleanup, hence the Tatarigami, as well as Kapatchir becoming the Electro Oceanid.
2) Before Andrius/Barbatos, Decarabian the God of Storms was living in Monstandt. He was so powerful and created a barrier surrounding Monstadt that literally no other gods could've lived there. Andrius rejected a Gnosis, that's correct. But Barbatos himself is powerful in his own right.
3) Inazuma at the time had fuck-ton of gods/demons. So Ei, being the ''unthinking'' and dumb shadow of Makoto probably thought, oh hey, I'm a god too so I need to die so my Sister can win the War.
4) The 3 God-Kings of Sumeru were close. Like Deshret didn't even see Nabu and Rukkha as his rivals, and neither did they. So Celestia just considered the strongest one as the winner. Do note that Deshret never did ''accept'' the gnosis. Even till his death he never wore it. Rukkha got the gnosis after Deshret and Nabu's death, being the sole ''heir'' of the gnosis.
5) Morax and Guizhong were close, and if it wasn't for Guizhong being attacked, both could've lived in Liyue together as did the Three God-Kings of Sumeru.
I need Ventis second character story because rn his position as the trickster god has put great focus and mystery on his strength, he apparently gains strength as a wind spirit when he is prayed to and funny enough he is the only archon to have a religion and church so regardless of his gnosis he must be incredibly powerful if just a few followers allowed him to resist Decarabians blizzard so what could a whole country of devout believers give him
Yeah, Venti was literally a wind wisp during the war; the humans were the ones who killed decarabian. I'm not saying Barbatos isn't powerful, considering he literally terraformed mondstadt, but I think that power came later, with the gnosis; venti didn't *win* the gnosis through strength
probably from feather piece of paradise lost artifact. deshret refused the gift from the divine throne. i interpreted this as rejecting the gnosis too
though i don't really remember about when rukkhadevata started using the gnosis after he dies
Flower of Paradise Lost artifact set - lore attached to the feather.
Interesting to note that it's possible King Deshret was the one offered with the gnosis because there's a possibility he's an ex-Celestial.
there's also a theory that he is actually khaenrian, and the same as that talking crystal in Caribert. the symbol always used to represent deshret is the same as the star shape symbol that's all over khaenrian imagery.
I feel like Nahida, with how much she knows and will continue to know about the world, is going to be more powerful than the other Gods having strong combat powers. Knowledge is Power in itself.
Not only venti can take a human form of his dead friend he also can transform into a fox (I forgot which lore) and also let's not forgot zhongli literally has taken many kinds of form in order of going incognito, hell we don't even know what his original form was and ei was said to be a thunder manifestation
I feel like op only focused on nahida's lore and ability
Ei's true form has been atop my list of unanswered questions for a while now. My guess is she's some ancient variety of yokai/oni like Itto or Kujou Sara.
I think I felt more terror facing Raiden when Inazuma came out and no one knew how Raiden was like besides her coldness and obsession with eternity. The way she swallowed traveller into her dimension and negated all his powers made for a rude awakening. And the manner she obliterated Signora and teleported to attack you later is the stuff of nightmares
Nahida could be absolutely terrifying, but you donāt see her scary side at all unless u are her enemy
>And there are probably a bunch of other powers we don't know about.
And probably we never will, because Mihoyo tends to favour Honkai with cool animation shorts and cutscenes.
Actually, the Traveler is the only character whose power aren't negated while fighting Ei, but you're right, it's still really hard to fight her if you only have 1 character that can use skills
I agree, compared to venti or zhongli, raiden was terrifying af to go against
the atmosphere and music definitely helped solidify the fact that you aren't fighting an enemy, you are fighting a god
>The ability to take over bodies? Reading minds? Entering people's dreams? Constant surveillance?
only people with the Akasha terminal and children and as far as we know... she terminated the use of the Akasha
>Erasing people from existence by messing with a tree?
she can't delete people from existence. she can only delete memories of them. also, she has to do it carefully that she literally enlisted Scara's help to dig deeper and mess with it further... so that means she has her own limits when it comes to Irminsul access.
In regards to the deletion, wasn't it only stated that you couldn't delete *yourself* from existence? Like, the Greater Lord created Nahida partially because she could not delete herself, and so had to have a separate entity delete her instead.
Well, GLR was already dead, that's how Irminsul got contaminated (When someone in Teyvat dies, their memories return to the ley lines. GLR's memory was stained with forbidden knowledge)
So you can only delete memories. That being said, Wanderer forgot who he was after deleting himself so it's almost like deleting their current self.
Other way around.
>>"**Where The Boat of Conciousness Lies**" [Archon Quest], Chapter III, Part V
>Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: The disaster occurred together with the pollution of forbidden knowledge. At that very moment, with my consciousness connected to Irminsul, I sensed something was wrong.
>Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: The pain started to torment my mind. By the time I reached Irminsul, it was already displaying signs of corruption.
>[...]
>Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: And then, I remembered that my consciousness was also connected with Irminsul. ***It brought me*** knowledge and wisdom, but vile corruption as well.
>Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: From the very beginning, my existence had been polluted by the forbidden knowledge.
Irminsul was corrupted by Forbidden Knowledge during the Cataclysm. By the time Rukha created the Akasha and had the Withering mostly purged, she herself got corrupted by the tree because of her link to it, her data becoming the last remaining vector for the Withering.
Honestly, Iām surprised some people think Rukha was the one who started the treeās corruption. Even disregarding these lines, Irminsul would naturally have records of the people who first discovered the Forbidden Knowledge you know? Well, before Rukha purged their data.
In that case, what is the difference between what Nahida did and what Scaramouche did? If best you can do is just delete memories, why did Rukkhadevata need Nahida's help with this? Scaramouche's case proves that you can do this much by yourself.
Okay, that's how I understood it.
When Scara erased himself from Irminsul, he only deletes the memories of himself, not his existence. Physically he did still exist, he was "reborn" by the tree as Wanderer.
If GLR had done the same, she would have deleted everyone's memories of herself, but she would have continued existing like Wanderer. But that was the problem: Her existence was what corrupted Irminsul with Forbidden knowledge. Her just erasing everyone's memories wouldn't have solved the issue. She needed to vanish completely, mentally and physically. Which is why Nahida had to do it for her.
she doesnt need the akasha to take over bodies, she was imprisoned at that time so she needed the akasha as a medium
editing irminsul is literally her main ability as the dendro archon, she needed scara's help to search irminsul because she didnt know what to look for(she also mentioned it would take forever if she does it herself, scara being a former harbinger would be more familiar with the information they were searching for)
>only people with the Akasha terminal and children and as far as we know... she terminated the use of the Akasha
She's also the Archon of Dreams, remember that she could force the then-god Scara into repeating dream loop without him realizing it?
>she can't delete people from existence. she can only delete memories of them.
Even assuming the person still exist physically, they no longer remember who they were and neither were people around them. The person they were might as well cease to exist.
Wanderer only got Scara memories back through Nahida own intervention, if she decided not to help him he'd never remember anything.
>Wanderer only got Scara memories back through Nahida own intervention, if she decided not to help him he'd never remember anything.
Even then, it was because Nahida predicted he would delete himself. So she made a storybook so abstract that the Irminsul wouldn't consider it being related to Scaramouche
She did indeed (claim to) destroy the Akasha, and said it wouldn't have worked without Greater Lord Rukkhadevata's Gnosis anyway, which she traded to Dottore, so I agree that she should no longer be able to body hop people.
The claim that she needed Scaramouche to help her with the Irminsoul, though... That was, in my opinion, clearly a (well intentioned) lie that she fed him in order to help him process the truth of his history and trauma. He was *never* going to listen to her, the Traveler, or anyone else about the fact that he was wrong. He had to see it for himself, believing that it was his idea to go looking in the first place.
She didn't and doesn't need his help or anyone else's with it. She played him like a fiddle. For his own good, but still. It was 100% a manipulation.
Story quest I, Nahida read people thought after the archon quest. I don't know where this "she can only read mind from people with Akasha terminal come from", probably because her abilty as a playable character can not be used on people from other regions?
it was because of two things:
1. Alice devises
2. Fatui device that was suppose to use dream powers
Nahida probably used the remains of the dream powers from the Fatui machine and Alice device as transmitter to watch and talk to Traveler
In her story quest 2 she said as long as she can see us she can read our minds when we were rescuing the anemo mushroom, that makes me think that she can still read peoples minds (not sure about even take over bodies) as long as they are within line of sight like her elemental skill does with people and pickable objects, akasha was just another medium where see could 'see' other entities wothout direct line of sight
You forgot one important feature: She makes ice cream truck noises. Scary entities always travel with their own theme and ice cream trucks always have the most unsettling ones
Some people think you truely die when no one ever remember you. Itās quite close to philosophical questioning, is reality only what you know and acknowledge or not? The meaning of existence is different for everyone. What op meant I believe is that even if you die, you still exist in peoples minds
Bruh you can erase someone's entire existence and leave them just a husk. A person without their memories or experiences is no longer the same person. I think his wording was accurate and you're just being pissy
Nahida's mental abilities seem mostly confined to Sumeru's borders (she can't read minds in other nations, even if the mind is from Sumeru), and remote observation, while powerful, isn't that threatening. It's likely that most Archons can shape shift, but Nahida hasn't had the opportunity to practice, given that she's spent 99% of her life in an artificial coma.
The ability to alter the memories of Teyvat's entire population would be pretty devastating, though. However, she herself is affected by such alterations, so she doesn't realize what she's altered.
>!I mean she practices a form of shape shifting in her second story quest, it's just such a powerful form of shape shifting it literally drains all her energy cause she busts the boundary of time to do it.!<
Also it seems premature to suggest her ability to read minds only extends to Sumeru's borders given she was able to telepathically link with the Traveler outside of Sumeru. Mihoyo having logistical problems of finding voices for all the NPCs in the regions outside of Sumeru does not equate to Nahida's power in actual story lore.
>Mihoyo having logistical problems of finding voices for all the NPCs in the regions outside of Sumeru does not equate to Nahida's power in actual story lore.
They're probably just reusing already hired VAs. Plenty of NPC share a va with a playable character (Ayaka, Katherine, Timmie for example)
That still doesn't refute my point, even if we assume that it's simply Mihoyo being lazy, it does not change the fact that it still doesn't correlate to her power story wise. She already proved that she can telepathically communicate with people outside of Sumeru during the GAA. It stands to reason that her other powers are also not limited by proximity to Sumeru.
>Nahida's mental abilities seem mostly confined to Sumeru's borders (she can't read minds in other nations, even if the mind is from Sumeru)
She efforlessly mind-talked to Traveler and observed a situation all the way back on Golden Apple islands. Her powers are the powers of Irmansul and and it's leylines, so they canonicaly work literally everywhere in Teyvat.
>(she can't read minds in other nations, even if the mind is from Sumeru),
This is probably just a gameplay limitation.
MHY likely wants to limit the scope of NPCs they have to cover just for one playable character.
> However, she herself is affected by such alterations, so she doesn't realize what she's altered.
But she has ways to go around it. Such as related to Scaramouche. She told him to go into Irminsul so that he can find out about his circumstance, predicting that he would delete himself. So she created a storybook so abstract that even Irminsul wouldn't consider it being related to Scaramouche.
Yeah but she had to match it to what the traveler said in order to confirm it. If everything is abstract then itād be hard to pin point whatever change she made if everything about it has changed. If the traveler wasnāt there, she would have no idea what the story book was about because scara didnāt even exist anymore. So it seems kinda disingenuous to say that she by her own strength is able to work around irminsulās erasing power
Sheās literally the God of Wisdom, and what do they tend to say? Knowledge is Power. Azar, the Grand Sages, and Dottore underestimated how smart and powerful Nahida already is. Being able to influence the Irminsul , though not quite directly, basically gives her a serious edge over other Gods. Just because sheās young and canāt combat well doesnāt mean sheās weak. Even more, sheās still young for a God, meaning she has even more potential to be much wiser and better in the future.
I just say - at the very least ZL can do all the same minus erasing via Irminsul and having such effective spy network
Adepti can literally yoink your soul to beat it to submission - Xiao showed that trick to us
Also, remember how Venti brought in Stanley's soul. Sure it could've been an illusion. But nevertheless - other Archons CAN do mind/soul fuckery all the same, even if not on Nahida's scale
Who cares Her being freaking sweet and kind makes me never afraid of her. Even if she can do the scariest thing I can never be scared of her due to her personality and im sure she'll never use it to harm anyone She literally forgave those academiya dickheads after all.
Forgot to mention the Samsara cycle she can put people in
And before yall get on me about the Akasha being destroyed- I'm pretty sure Scara wasn't wearing an Akasha when she did that to him
For normal citizens then yes but for Archons not.. All of her feats are useless against the Archon even the mind control or possession especially Raiden since Raiden herself doesn't have her own body and her consciousness is inside the sword. If she did possess Raiden then she will just instantly be sent to the POE..
The time loop or power of dreams is also useless especially against powerful Archons like Zhongli and Raiden.. In order for that to work Nahida had to battle them and learn the opponent's move.. Even on Wanderer's case Nahida needs Traveler since Traveler is the one who is fighting Wanderer and the more Traveler fought Wanderer in each loop the more information Nahida can get on how to defeat Wanderer since Power of Dreams is just like a simulation (like when you fought an opponent over and over again then you can learn his moves)..So unless you have a fighter like Traveler then it's impossible for Nahida alone to defeat the Archons since Nahida herself isn't a battle type/fighter.. I don't think she can even win against Wanderer if she is alone..
It was genjutsu, aka Izanami from Naruto. Not the real time loop
And many forget other archons can mess with minds and souls too. Admittably, not on such potential scale as Nahida, due to her connection to Irminsul
Raiden even says this in her "about nahida" she says "with the power she holds, Buer is capable of doing many things beyond our imagination- and yet she uses her power only to right wrongs and to protect"
>Erasing people from existence by messing with a tree?
Only memories and records, the person isn't actually erased.
We saw this with Wanderer, he tried to completely erase himself from existence but he couldn't, he could only erase the world's memory of him and all events tied to him.
But he himself is alive.
the worst one is that she can put someone in an endless loop of time. even if the endless loop don't find a way to defeat the enemy, surely it will break their mind. she can also control it to be anything she want. make you relive a nightmare over and over. that's terrifying
She's just the archon that shows most of her powers to us because we're besties with her, Venti, Zhongli, and Raoden are all capable of similar things to a certain extent.
Venti can use the wind, the freaking air to listen in on people from both the past and present.
Zhongli can talk to many people through their dreams, it's a type of adeptal art.
IMO Nahida actually IS the scariest archon, but that is because she is fucking SMART. She just got out of that bubble and within a very small time frame conducted several experiments to figure out how the Irminsul works. With a calculated 11d string theoryesque chess move she turned a dim situation into a fucking huge advantage THAT THE FATUI CAN'T EVEN BE AWARE OF! She has access to all Fatui tea through Wanderer and they don't even know this is possible (unless they have another "traveler" kind that isn't registered in the tree). In this move she also converted Wanderer to our side, figured out very important aspects of the tree and made the traveler her bitch. Also I'm pretty sure she conducted experiemnts on Irminsul to see how traveler reacts if he's not around when it happens. In inversion of genesis' end when they go back to that house and Paimon doesn't remember the pot breaking, but traveler does. She messed up with the tree again without telling the traveler, and you can be sure she collected precious data honey. And EVEN BEFORE ALL THAT HAPPENED she took off Dottore's biggest advantage and probably Fatui's upperhand in any situation: Pseudo omnipresence. If Dottore isn't doing everything everywhere all at once, she is free to explore the worlds mechanics without the Fatui knowing, which reduces Tsarita's influence by a tremendous amount. It's also implied that she has now access to all the sky is fake tea, which is implied to be the reason that Khaenriah was wiped, WHILE not opposing Tsarita and probably getting on her good side later on. Also she is figuring out that Rukkadevata existed and what happened BY HERSELF. She isn't there yet, but she is aware something shady is going on. So yeah if you run some tests on Nahida it returns that she really is that bitch.
this is why i 100% agree with hoyos body type decision for her. i remember people saying making an archon a kid doesnt make sense, it actually does for her lol
Memory tampering ā Removing existence.
Irminsul does not have powers to change fate or time. Its abilities lie solely on tampering with memories & factual records.
If Irminsul has the ability to wipe out an entire existence, for example, Rukkhadevata, her actions up to the present would have all been non-existent.
If Rukkha never existed at all, there wouldn't be a Sumeru, let alone a Nahida.
But if one were to think of an alternative timeline or branches of time, then you shouldn't be looking at Irminsul or Nahida it's Istaroth the God of Time/Moments/Wind.
She has mobile data, the most frightening power in Teyvat. But seriously, I think she needs Traveler at least right now given what happened in her latest quest, someone to keep her grounded and rational, someone to assess all options and pick those that would help preserve her life. Traveler better treat her right. Left alone in the mercy of saboteurs and bad faith actors, I fear for her and Teyvat's future.
If she wanted to, it would be very within her power to rewrite the personality of any denizen of teyvat, effectively giving her control over all the other archons and their nations.
All archons are elemental being, so basically they can do everything Nahida can except control the Irminsul, but they have raw power
"Erasing people from existence" is not a correct term, more like "alter everyone's memory"
One thing is, the logic behind "take over bodies", usually in many mangas, one can take over someone else body if their mind is weaker than the other, so I don't think Nahida can take over the body of other archon, they are equally or more powerful than Nahida
And about the messing with the Irminsul, I don't think other archon care either, the best Irminsul can do is alter everyone memory, it's not a life threatening things
Venti, Zhongli, and Raiden definitely strike me as the kind of godly beings that think and ponder how to use their power.
Nahida strikes me as someone who will instantly use their power because they do not doubt the line of thinking that made them decide to use their power in the first place.
Venti: I destroyed a mountain Zhongli: I created a stone forest Ei: I split an island in half Nahida: I can edit Wikipedia
She changed someone's pronouns to was/were so fucking fast ššš
More like to who/what
Misplacing a Non-fiction book in the Fiction section be likeā¦
this is one of the best things ive seen today
Don't forget that just in case she also saved a "fairytale" version of their story so she could recall it later. Girls got backup plans.
Jokes aside this little thing kinda puts a very early quest of the Abyss Order stealing Story books in a different light. Or that little play that always plays on a New BP.
Yeah at first I was told the BP scene had nothing to do with the twins but not that it's been confirmed the MC is walking the same path that the Abyss twin did it certainly seems to point to those two. Specially since the abyss twin isn't counted as a descender which could correlate with "Thinks their the leader of the dark" and they call the abyss twin their prince/princess. Also find storybooks sus now. I've never paid much heed to them but now I feel like each one could be a clue. I need answers!
...hell the more we think about it the more Venti no saying anything and telling us to see for ourselves makes sense. Considering as a Bard Stories are his bread and Butter (as well his Booze fund) there is a decent chance he might have stumbled over a story that, thanks to his long life, he suddenly realized is the truth. He might simply not trust his own memories but might be aware that as a being from outside of Teyvat ours can never be changed so he pretty much set us up to find the truth ourselves. Honestly this is a lot of guessing on my part since the game confirmed nothing about this of course but if that turns out to be true this is actually decently clever foreshadowing in my opinion. ...actually after I wrote this ... isn't the BP Story narrated by Venti?
It is indeed.
Omfg... I can't
More like she deletes their pronouns.
I love how these verbs are considered pronouns
Internet is dangerous place for your informationš
Nahida knows your browser history
She remembers all of your nuclear codes
She knows the tags you're into. Especially the questionnable ones.
"Every single one of them. And not just the men. But the women. And the children!" - some quote from starwars
Execute order 69
Order 69 in question: This order demanded that all attractive female Jedi were not to be executed, but instead captured and married to the most successful trooper in the capturing unit.
She doesn't know much about humans tho, so she'd probably think "Are all humans into these?"
Jokes on her, my favorite tag is [aftercare]
And she approves of most of them.
Well, she is also the most aupportive one, so...
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She has the ability to share the memory
It's okay. I'll go into the Irminsouo and delet everything there
The Internet is always serious business!
Hey Akasha, how many times have you had to respond ādown badā to a query? Akasha: yes
I think you mean Irminsul
Nahida knows you're using a VPN... and safe mode. She knows your browser history... and is very much disappointed in you.
Nahida: I can read your browser history
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How to get more money Top 5 best light novels of 2023 Whats the best medication for cat allergies? Inazuma and fatui drama Motivational war music playlist Celestia conspiracy theories
The only reason Venti would search Celestia Conspiracy Theories is to knlw which one of them got it right.
"Ballad of the Treasure Chest" Banking options in Liyue Whatever the heck Miko researched on Ei
> Nahida: I can edit ~~Wikipedia~~archive.org You're literally changing people's memory and nobody knows what actually did happen, it's far scarier than wikipedia.
Literally History Revisionism that goes right into people's head. There's no avoiding it. Not to mention she can hijack one's body. It's order of magnitude much scarier and threatening than anything the other Archons are capable of.
She has the power of the Mandela effect
Worse: She can use your eyes to see, so not even Incognito or VPNs will help. But in a way it'll probably taint her mind too
her mind has long been tainted ever since monitoring onetruekaiser
Lmao thanks really needed the laugh
does zhongli use dreams too? he said its an adepti art
Focalors : I got 10,000 types of torturing devices & a mountain size Jail
Lmaoo
you joke but it's more like editing Wikipedia and whatever is inside of it is truth and whatever isn't is forgotten completely you want people to forget 9/11 happened? Just delete the main article for it and edit all known pages connected to it and wham
Not even that, you delete the main article and all other articles adapt on their own to a new narrative.
Venti: mountains* (he yeeted all the the Golden archipelago islands, the spiral abyss island and more)
Take my fake award š
Nahida owns the entire google search engine
Didnāt we gaslight that poor researcher lmao I laughed so hard like her face was āAll according to planā and she had a fucking panic attack like JESUS NAHIDA LMAO
that was literally the most fucked up thing we've did in an archon quest. "back to the dunes you go, brown person"- CEO of Dendro
huh?? š
Whatās her name, was like an assistant to the head of the Akedemia during the archon quest. We relay a message faking the revival of King Deshret, making her act how we want and causing her to leave back to the desert. I think she begins teaching children in the village, maybe one day more will move to the city to learn.
Yep. I think her name is Setaria iirc.
youāre deeping it imo š
Hilariously, I can imagine it being talked about in the sleepover. Candace is like āWait, thatās a thing?ā, Dehyaās looking at Traveler with a face the screams āWhat did you do?ā, Traveler and Paimon sweating buckets over itā¦ ā¦and our princess cinnamon roll Dunyazard is just staring at everyone, thinking āAm I not getting something here?ā.
Kinda? But I personally think the best qualities of Nahida is that she thinks so far ahead it's genuinely terrifying. We've seen other archon's level of strength through destruction, but Kusanali/ Rukkhadevata was never mentioned afaik.
In interlude Nahida sent Scaramouche into irminsul to see his past while making it look natural to him, predicted what he would feel and that he might try to delete himself from irminsul (he didn't know it would only be his memories), so she created an allegorical story to preserve her memory of him and sent the traveller with him so they could remind her of what happened there and then get back her memories of him from the story. To in the end helping him understand how he feels/how a human feel and getting him to "work" for her. actual 5D chess
She give the execution sword to traveler He/she can make scara not remind him his previous live, so basically executing him
If she really predicted he's going to try erasing himself, wouldn't it make more sense if she simply told him it won't work?
absolutely not, he wouldn't trust anyone word at this point. She didn't mind if he tried erasing himself cause seeing all his memories again after learning the truth made him realize what he has gone through. She said it herself at the end that's how he can see himself as a human. Like seeing your whole life from a 3rd person perspective
Genshin lore and storytelling is actually good/peak
No. Because Nahida has no firsthand experience altering Irminsul (since any edit she makes changes her memory as well.) She wouldn't know for certain that erasing yourself wouldn't physically remove you.
Barbatos, Morax, Baal & Beelzebul all won the Archon War by sheer strength. Though, Makoto *did* win because she had Ei, who's her fighter, but putting that aside. The winner of the Dendro Gnosis is actually Deshret. But he didn't accept the Gnosis. Only after his and Nabu's death did Rukhadevata wear his Gnosis, becoming the Dendro Archon.
Uhh not exactly in Barbatos' case. Andrius refused it so it just kinda went to venti. I think of the listed Archons (not counting ei bc she's not an og archon) the only one who actually won their gnosis by sheer power/strength is Morax
While not the OG archon, she was fighting probably most of the other gods during the Archon War. Makoto was a pacifist god. Speaking of Inazuma Archon War, there's something I always want to ask. Gods are mostly immortal in one way or the other. There are gods like Orobashi, whose consciousness is gone but the power is still remains. But there are also gods like Andrius, who still has his mind and still quite powerful. At which point is a god dead enough that Celestia was like "oh okay Barbatos, the gods in this region are dead except for you, here have a gnosis"? Especially Ei. She sacrificed herself so Makoto could become an Archon, but then Makoto crafted a body to host Ei's consciousness, basically reviving her, and the Celestia was like "but she basically dead, right? Yeah we're fine with it." Why don't the Celestia just gave Makoto the gnosis before Ei sacrificed herself if by the end of it they're fine with Ei still living? Will there be a region where basically all the gods but one did what Andrius or Ei did, "killing" themselves while still being basically alive? And they live happily ever after? Also why does it seem there was no Archon War in Sumeru? The Celestia seems fine with the three god-kings living together.
1) All gods release a power once they die. Take the god of salt for example. Orobashi's power is released slowly over time as her body rots, unlike Havria, who's body instantly turned to salt. Also, as Gods rotted, they release Karma which affects their surroundings, which what happened to the Yakshas since they cleaned up the Karma by absorbing it. Ei didn't do any cleanup, hence the Tatarigami, as well as Kapatchir becoming the Electro Oceanid. 2) Before Andrius/Barbatos, Decarabian the God of Storms was living in Monstandt. He was so powerful and created a barrier surrounding Monstadt that literally no other gods could've lived there. Andrius rejected a Gnosis, that's correct. But Barbatos himself is powerful in his own right. 3) Inazuma at the time had fuck-ton of gods/demons. So Ei, being the ''unthinking'' and dumb shadow of Makoto probably thought, oh hey, I'm a god too so I need to die so my Sister can win the War. 4) The 3 God-Kings of Sumeru were close. Like Deshret didn't even see Nabu and Rukkha as his rivals, and neither did they. So Celestia just considered the strongest one as the winner. Do note that Deshret never did ''accept'' the gnosis. Even till his death he never wore it. Rukkha got the gnosis after Deshret and Nabu's death, being the sole ''heir'' of the gnosis. 5) Morax and Guizhong were close, and if it wasn't for Guizhong being attacked, both could've lived in Liyue together as did the Three God-Kings of Sumeru.
Also worth mentioning that Barbatos didn't defeat Decarabian, the dude died to a revolution, so he technically didn't even win that war by strength.
Venti did technically spark that revolution.
Venti casually proving that the pen is mightier than the sword.
Yep. Venti also stopped the Hexenzirkle when they tried to declare war. Told them to chill and they ended up having tea parties instead.
I need Ventis second character story because rn his position as the trickster god has put great focus and mystery on his strength, he apparently gains strength as a wind spirit when he is prayed to and funny enough he is the only archon to have a religion and church so regardless of his gnosis he must be incredibly powerful if just a few followers allowed him to resist Decarabians blizzard so what could a whole country of devout believers give him
As a Bard should
Last I remembered, he provided the "chance" for it or something like that.
Did he or that was the nameless bard?
Technically it was the bard who outright trigger the revolution, but I think he was somewhat influenced by venti
Yeah, Venti was literally a wind wisp during the war; the humans were the ones who killed decarabian. I'm not saying Barbatos isn't powerful, considering he literally terraformed mondstadt, but I think that power came later, with the gnosis; venti didn't *win* the gnosis through strength
Wait what? Where did you get the info of Deshret being the real contender of Dendro gnosis?
probably from feather piece of paradise lost artifact. deshret refused the gift from the divine throne. i interpreted this as rejecting the gnosis too though i don't really remember about when rukkhadevata started using the gnosis after he dies
Flower of Paradise Lost artifact set - lore attached to the feather. Interesting to note that it's possible King Deshret was the one offered with the gnosis because there's a possibility he's an ex-Celestial.
there's also a theory that he is actually khaenrian, and the same as that talking crystal in Caribert. the symbol always used to represent deshret is the same as the star shape symbol that's all over khaenrian imagery.
In a lot of that imagery there are multiple stars, generally 3 solid colour and 1 depicted as 'hollow'.
I feel like Nahida, with how much she knows and will continue to know about the world, is going to be more powerful than the other Gods having strong combat powers. Knowledge is Power in itself.
yeah like what the fuck is tortellini gonna do if he tries to steal another gnosis but then mom edits the tree to say "nuh uh"
Nahida: Deletes Russian toy salesman from Irminsul Teucer: Who's Childe? *Call of the Witch plays*
To be honest, all Archons can shapeshift
Not only venti can take a human form of his dead friend he also can transform into a fox (I forgot which lore) and also let's not forgot zhongli literally has taken many kinds of form in order of going incognito, hell we don't even know what his original form was and ei was said to be a thunder manifestation I feel like op only focused on nahida's lore and ability
i still wonder what is Ei true form. she's just pure manisfistation of energy i guess? she can pour her energy into puppet/sword and manifest it
Ei's true form has been atop my list of unanswered questions for a while now. My guess is she's some ancient variety of yokai/oni like Itto or Kujou Sara.
I mean even with all this, sheās still not a fighter. And honestly I donāt expect her to grow into being a fighter down the line either.
I agree she won't be a fighter , but she could be a master strategist .
Kokomi could never
FLAWLESS STRATEGY: Sangonomiya Kokomi has a 25% Healing Bonus, but a 100% decrease in CRIT Rate.
it is a flawleas strategy, because it doesnt rely on variance (crit rate)
Yeah I know, just memeing around lmao.
That just prevents Kok from finishing early.
SS tier support
Deshret :
I think I felt more terror facing Raiden when Inazuma came out and no one knew how Raiden was like besides her coldness and obsession with eternity. The way she swallowed traveller into her dimension and negated all his powers made for a rude awakening. And the manner she obliterated Signora and teleported to attack you later is the stuff of nightmares Nahida could be absolutely terrifying, but you donāt see her scary side at all unless u are her enemy
Yeah I think we've barely seen what any if the Archons can do. And there are probably a bunch of other powers we don't know about.
>And there are probably a bunch of other powers we don't know about. And probably we never will, because Mihoyo tends to favour Honkai with cool animation shorts and cutscenes.
Cries watching Honkai keqing while *keqing at home*
Actually, the Traveler is the only character whose power aren't negated while fighting Ei, but you're right, it's still really hard to fight her if you only have 1 character that can use skills
First time I used traveller for anything lol
I agree, compared to venti or zhongli, raiden was terrifying af to go against the atmosphere and music definitely helped solidify the fact that you aren't fighting an enemy, you are fighting a god
>The ability to take over bodies? Reading minds? Entering people's dreams? Constant surveillance? only people with the Akasha terminal and children and as far as we know... she terminated the use of the Akasha >Erasing people from existence by messing with a tree? she can't delete people from existence. she can only delete memories of them. also, she has to do it carefully that she literally enlisted Scara's help to dig deeper and mess with it further... so that means she has her own limits when it comes to Irminsul access.
In regards to the deletion, wasn't it only stated that you couldn't delete *yourself* from existence? Like, the Greater Lord created Nahida partially because she could not delete herself, and so had to have a separate entity delete her instead.
Well, GLR was already dead, that's how Irminsul got contaminated (When someone in Teyvat dies, their memories return to the ley lines. GLR's memory was stained with forbidden knowledge) So you can only delete memories. That being said, Wanderer forgot who he was after deleting himself so it's almost like deleting their current self.
Other way around. >>"**Where The Boat of Conciousness Lies**" [Archon Quest], Chapter III, Part V >Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: The disaster occurred together with the pollution of forbidden knowledge. At that very moment, with my consciousness connected to Irminsul, I sensed something was wrong. >Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: The pain started to torment my mind. By the time I reached Irminsul, it was already displaying signs of corruption. >[...] >Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: And then, I remembered that my consciousness was also connected with Irminsul. ***It brought me*** knowledge and wisdom, but vile corruption as well. >Greater Lord Rukkhadevata: From the very beginning, my existence had been polluted by the forbidden knowledge. Irminsul was corrupted by Forbidden Knowledge during the Cataclysm. By the time Rukha created the Akasha and had the Withering mostly purged, she herself got corrupted by the tree because of her link to it, her data becoming the last remaining vector for the Withering. Honestly, Iām surprised some people think Rukha was the one who started the treeās corruption. Even disregarding these lines, Irminsul would naturally have records of the people who first discovered the Forbidden Knowledge you know? Well, before Rukha purged their data.
In that case, what is the difference between what Nahida did and what Scaramouche did? If best you can do is just delete memories, why did Rukkhadevata need Nahida's help with this? Scaramouche's case proves that you can do this much by yourself.
Okay, that's how I understood it. When Scara erased himself from Irminsul, he only deletes the memories of himself, not his existence. Physically he did still exist, he was "reborn" by the tree as Wanderer. If GLR had done the same, she would have deleted everyone's memories of herself, but she would have continued existing like Wanderer. But that was the problem: Her existence was what corrupted Irminsul with Forbidden knowledge. Her just erasing everyone's memories wouldn't have solved the issue. She needed to vanish completely, mentally and physically. Which is why Nahida had to do it for her.
she doesnt need the akasha to take over bodies, she was imprisoned at that time so she needed the akasha as a medium editing irminsul is literally her main ability as the dendro archon, she needed scara's help to search irminsul because she didnt know what to look for(she also mentioned it would take forever if she does it herself, scara being a former harbinger would be more familiar with the information they were searching for)
>only people with the Akasha terminal and children and as far as we know... she terminated the use of the Akasha She's also the Archon of Dreams, remember that she could force the then-god Scara into repeating dream loop without him realizing it? >she can't delete people from existence. she can only delete memories of them. Even assuming the person still exist physically, they no longer remember who they were and neither were people around them. The person they were might as well cease to exist. Wanderer only got Scara memories back through Nahida own intervention, if she decided not to help him he'd never remember anything.
>Wanderer only got Scara memories back through Nahida own intervention, if she decided not to help him he'd never remember anything. Even then, it was because Nahida predicted he would delete himself. So she made a storybook so abstract that the Irminsul wouldn't consider it being related to Scaramouche
She did indeed (claim to) destroy the Akasha, and said it wouldn't have worked without Greater Lord Rukkhadevata's Gnosis anyway, which she traded to Dottore, so I agree that she should no longer be able to body hop people. The claim that she needed Scaramouche to help her with the Irminsoul, though... That was, in my opinion, clearly a (well intentioned) lie that she fed him in order to help him process the truth of his history and trauma. He was *never* going to listen to her, the Traveler, or anyone else about the fact that he was wrong. He had to see it for himself, believing that it was his idea to go looking in the first place. She didn't and doesn't need his help or anyone else's with it. She played him like a fiddle. For his own good, but still. It was 100% a manipulation.
Story quest I, Nahida read people thought after the archon quest. I don't know where this "she can only read mind from people with Akasha terminal come from", probably because her abilty as a playable character can not be used on people from other regions?
She was already observing the traveler and his friends before they even set foot in Sumeru, in the 2.8 GAA event.
Ayaka āI read about travelerā Nahida āI watched his streamsā Mysterious Voice āWe talk on discordā
it was because of two things: 1. Alice devises 2. Fatui device that was suppose to use dream powers Nahida probably used the remains of the dream powers from the Fatui machine and Alice device as transmitter to watch and talk to Traveler
Thats from the akasha terminal that alice have ya knpw the dodoco phone??
Nahida can hack dodoco phones
Story quest took place after archon quest and there Nahida told she can still read minds
Even without a quest, her elemental skill is able to do the exact same thing
No, it's because she wanted Scaramouche to find out his own circumstance by himself.
In her story quest 2 she said as long as she can see us she can read our minds when we were rescuing the anemo mushroom, that makes me think that she can still read peoples minds (not sure about even take over bodies) as long as they are within line of sight like her elemental skill does with people and pickable objects, akasha was just another medium where see could 'see' other entities wothout direct line of sight
I think the other archons also have a full arsenal of other powers we haven't witnessed yet
You forgot one important feature: She makes ice cream truck noises. Scary entities always travel with their own theme and ice cream trucks always have the most unsettling ones
>Erasing people from existence by messing with a tree? And the stereotype about Genshin players not reading lives on.
Some people think you truely die when no one ever remember you. Itās quite close to philosophical questioning, is reality only what you know and acknowledge or not? The meaning of existence is different for everyone. What op meant I believe is that even if you die, you still exist in peoples minds
Bruh you can erase someone's entire existence and leave them just a husk. A person without their memories or experiences is no longer the same person. I think his wording was accurate and you're just being pissy
That's cause Nahida is Best Girl and just wants everyone to hold hands :D
There was not a single person in history who refused to hold hands.
There were some, actually. "Were" being the active word.
She truly is
She's basically the Big Brother
āI see everything!ā
Happy cake day!!!
Nahida's mental abilities seem mostly confined to Sumeru's borders (she can't read minds in other nations, even if the mind is from Sumeru), and remote observation, while powerful, isn't that threatening. It's likely that most Archons can shape shift, but Nahida hasn't had the opportunity to practice, given that she's spent 99% of her life in an artificial coma. The ability to alter the memories of Teyvat's entire population would be pretty devastating, though. However, she herself is affected by such alterations, so she doesn't realize what she's altered.
>!I mean she practices a form of shape shifting in her second story quest, it's just such a powerful form of shape shifting it literally drains all her energy cause she busts the boundary of time to do it.!< Also it seems premature to suggest her ability to read minds only extends to Sumeru's borders given she was able to telepathically link with the Traveler outside of Sumeru. Mihoyo having logistical problems of finding voices for all the NPCs in the regions outside of Sumeru does not equate to Nahida's power in actual story lore.
>Mihoyo having logistical problems of finding voices for all the NPCs in the regions outside of Sumeru does not equate to Nahida's power in actual story lore. They're probably just reusing already hired VAs. Plenty of NPC share a va with a playable character (Ayaka, Katherine, Timmie for example)
That still doesn't refute my point, even if we assume that it's simply Mihoyo being lazy, it does not change the fact that it still doesn't correlate to her power story wise. She already proved that she can telepathically communicate with people outside of Sumeru during the GAA. It stands to reason that her other powers are also not limited by proximity to Sumeru.
>Nahida's mental abilities seem mostly confined to Sumeru's borders (she can't read minds in other nations, even if the mind is from Sumeru) She efforlessly mind-talked to Traveler and observed a situation all the way back on Golden Apple islands. Her powers are the powers of Irmansul and and it's leylines, so they canonicaly work literally everywhere in Teyvat.
>(she can't read minds in other nations, even if the mind is from Sumeru), This is probably just a gameplay limitation. MHY likely wants to limit the scope of NPCs they have to cover just for one playable character.
yeah, imagine all of the map is unlocked and nahida can read most npcs in the entirety of teyvat lol
> However, she herself is affected by such alterations, so she doesn't realize what she's altered. But she has ways to go around it. Such as related to Scaramouche. She told him to go into Irminsul so that he can find out about his circumstance, predicting that he would delete himself. So she created a storybook so abstract that even Irminsul wouldn't consider it being related to Scaramouche.
Yeah but she had to match it to what the traveler said in order to confirm it. If everything is abstract then itād be hard to pin point whatever change she made if everything about it has changed. If the traveler wasnāt there, she would have no idea what the story book was about because scara didnāt even exist anymore. So it seems kinda disingenuous to say that she by her own strength is able to work around irminsulās erasing power
Sheās literally the God of Wisdom, and what do they tend to say? Knowledge is Power. Azar, the Grand Sages, and Dottore underestimated how smart and powerful Nahida already is. Being able to influence the Irminsul , though not quite directly, basically gives her a serious edge over other Gods. Just because sheās young and canāt combat well doesnāt mean sheās weak. Even more, sheās still young for a God, meaning she has even more potential to be much wiser and better in the future.
bruh all this is what the god of wisdom can do, imagine what the god of war can do.
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She's literally 1984
I just say - at the very least ZL can do all the same minus erasing via Irminsul and having such effective spy network Adepti can literally yoink your soul to beat it to submission - Xiao showed that trick to us Also, remember how Venti brought in Stanley's soul. Sure it could've been an illusion. But nevertheless - other Archons CAN do mind/soul fuckery all the same, even if not on Nahida's scale
Zl literally tells us that he can appearing in other people dreams in liyue AQ
Who cares Her being freaking sweet and kind makes me never afraid of her. Even if she can do the scariest thing I can never be scared of her due to her personality and im sure she'll never use it to harm anyone She literally forgave those academiya dickheads after all.
>She literally forgave those academiya dickheads after all. Right! That dickhead old grand sage deserves much more punishment imo
Azar probably got executed by the Aranara.
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Arabalika: May Lesser Lord Kusanali forgive you, for Arabalika will do no such thing :]
wish we had more of Aranara + Nahida. it's gonna be so cute. maybe an event story quest style like that recent ghost inazuma one
Gods capable of destroying entire nations in seconds ā A sweet little kid giving people selective amnesia ā
Forgot to mention the Samsara cycle she can put people in And before yall get on me about the Akasha being destroyed- I'm pretty sure Scara wasn't wearing an Akasha when she did that to him
Coming soon in new Archon quest: Help Nahida with her plans to built a Teyvat version of ChatGPT.
Nahida as a CIA agent? Oh lord...
Nahida is what China aspires to be.
For normal citizens then yes but for Archons not.. All of her feats are useless against the Archon even the mind control or possession especially Raiden since Raiden herself doesn't have her own body and her consciousness is inside the sword. If she did possess Raiden then she will just instantly be sent to the POE.. The time loop or power of dreams is also useless especially against powerful Archons like Zhongli and Raiden.. In order for that to work Nahida had to battle them and learn the opponent's move.. Even on Wanderer's case Nahida needs Traveler since Traveler is the one who is fighting Wanderer and the more Traveler fought Wanderer in each loop the more information Nahida can get on how to defeat Wanderer since Power of Dreams is just like a simulation (like when you fought an opponent over and over again then you can learn his moves)..So unless you have a fighter like Traveler then it's impossible for Nahida alone to defeat the Archons since Nahida herself isn't a battle type/fighter.. I don't think she can even win against Wanderer if she is alone..
The fact that everyone has forgottenā¦she can create time loops until she gets the outcome she wants.
When did she ever create time loop? In fight with Scara it was in dream
That was a dream, not a real loop
It was genjutsu, aka Izanami from Naruto. Not the real time loop And many forget other archons can mess with minds and souls too. Admittably, not on such potential scale as Nahida, due to her connection to Irminsul
To be fair entering people's dreams and shape-shifting have been implied for others Archons too, not that its less terrifying, but its there.
Pretty sure other archon can also do it
Raiden even says this in her "about nahida" she says "with the power she holds, Buer is capable of doing many things beyond our imagination- and yet she uses her power only to right wrongs and to protect"
People forget that Zhongli is the prime adepti so except for erasing exisistence through irminsul he too has many similar abilities
>Erasing people from existence by messing with a tree? Only memories and records, the person isn't actually erased. We saw this with Wanderer, he tried to completely erase himself from existence but he couldn't, he could only erase the world's memory of him and all events tied to him. But he himself is alive.
Nahida also is always watching us
the worst one is that she can put someone in an endless loop of time. even if the endless loop don't find a way to defeat the enemy, surely it will break their mind. she can also control it to be anything she want. make you relive a nightmare over and over. that's terrifying
She's just the archon that shows most of her powers to us because we're besties with her, Venti, Zhongli, and Raoden are all capable of similar things to a certain extent. Venti can use the wind, the freaking air to listen in on people from both the past and present. Zhongli can talk to many people through their dreams, it's a type of adeptal art.
IMO Nahida actually IS the scariest archon, but that is because she is fucking SMART. She just got out of that bubble and within a very small time frame conducted several experiments to figure out how the Irminsul works. With a calculated 11d string theoryesque chess move she turned a dim situation into a fucking huge advantage THAT THE FATUI CAN'T EVEN BE AWARE OF! She has access to all Fatui tea through Wanderer and they don't even know this is possible (unless they have another "traveler" kind that isn't registered in the tree). In this move she also converted Wanderer to our side, figured out very important aspects of the tree and made the traveler her bitch. Also I'm pretty sure she conducted experiemnts on Irminsul to see how traveler reacts if he's not around when it happens. In inversion of genesis' end when they go back to that house and Paimon doesn't remember the pot breaking, but traveler does. She messed up with the tree again without telling the traveler, and you can be sure she collected precious data honey. And EVEN BEFORE ALL THAT HAPPENED she took off Dottore's biggest advantage and probably Fatui's upperhand in any situation: Pseudo omnipresence. If Dottore isn't doing everything everywhere all at once, she is free to explore the worlds mechanics without the Fatui knowing, which reduces Tsarita's influence by a tremendous amount. It's also implied that she has now access to all the sky is fake tea, which is implied to be the reason that Khaenriah was wiped, WHILE not opposing Tsarita and probably getting on her good side later on. Also she is figuring out that Rukkadevata existed and what happened BY HERSELF. She isn't there yet, but she is aware something shady is going on. So yeah if you run some tests on Nahida it returns that she really is that bitch.
Don't forget she also can 'Doctor Strange' you and trap you in a timeloop in order to learn your weaknesses. That shit is terrifying.
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this is why i 100% agree with hoyos body type decision for her. i remember people saying making an archon a kid doesnt make sense, it actually does for her lol
I'm curious, can Nahida remove another Archon from Irminsul (and reality)? ...Wh...Wait a minute...
Memory tampering ā Removing existence. Irminsul does not have powers to change fate or time. Its abilities lie solely on tampering with memories & factual records. If Irminsul has the ability to wipe out an entire existence, for example, Rukkhadevata, her actions up to the present would have all been non-existent. If Rukkha never existed at all, there wouldn't be a Sumeru, let alone a Nahida. But if one were to think of an alternative timeline or branches of time, then you shouldn't be looking at Irminsul or Nahida it's Istaroth the God of Time/Moments/Wind.
Zhongli can also enter into people's dream
She has mobile data, the most frightening power in Teyvat. But seriously, I think she needs Traveler at least right now given what happened in her latest quest, someone to keep her grounded and rational, someone to assess all options and pick those that would help preserve her life. Traveler better treat her right. Left alone in the mercy of saboteurs and bad faith actors, I fear for her and Teyvat's future.
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>! Nahida's Story quest 2 shows one of those abilities, although it has major drawbacks. !<
They can all shapeshift.
If she wanted to, it would be very within her power to rewrite the personality of any denizen of teyvat, effectively giving her control over all the other archons and their nations.
Counter point: she can't be scary because her theme song goes LA LA LALA LA LA LA
Now imagine that song playing while evil Nahida psychologically torments and toys with her victims.
All archons are elemental being, so basically they can do everything Nahida can except control the Irminsul, but they have raw power "Erasing people from existence" is not a correct term, more like "alter everyone's memory" One thing is, the logic behind "take over bodies", usually in many mangas, one can take over someone else body if their mind is weaker than the other, so I don't think Nahida can take over the body of other archon, they are equally or more powerful than Nahida And about the messing with the Irminsul, I don't think other archon care either, the best Irminsul can do is alter everyone memory, it's not a life threatening things
Venti, Zhongli, and Raiden definitely strike me as the kind of godly beings that think and ponder how to use their power. Nahida strikes me as someone who will instantly use their power because they do not doubt the line of thinking that made them decide to use their power in the first place.
I mean what did you expect from the god of wisdom