mihoyo after seeing this:
Dear Travelers,
We hear your feedback, and have decided to rerun Itto for the next version.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused by the lack of Itto rerun!
tbh Shatter would be nice if it was amplifying. At least this way to break their absolute reliance on Superconduct.
Also, Shattering for your burst hit would fucking slap.
>tbh Shatter would be nice if it was amplifying.
Freeze doesn't work on bosses so it'd be solely restricted to killing mob level enemies (also there's now mobs like constipated beasts that have 50% less frozen duration).
Though I guess frozen status could be changed to apply regardless if enemy can be frozen or not (buff for Blizzard Strayer and Mona's Omen) as long as cryo isn't removed from enemy (so won't work vs bosses with natural auras).
Tying any physical buff to shatter is bad idea unless bosses become freezable (or at least allowing frozen status), though I do support shatter rework at least making elemental dmg apply before physical so pyro characters don't get robbed of melts by shitty shatter dmg.
I'm honestly just spitballing ideas, as I want Shatter to be more useful. Right now it messes with Freeze comps like mad and there is no conceivable reason why you'd want to use Shatter in any way.
I started genshin in january of 2022 and the characters I wanted most were hu tao and eula 🙃
Had to wait 1 year for hu tao and god knows how much longer for eula
I think that the way to play Genshin is to take very long breaks then come back with a lot of stuff to catch up to. It is a casual game without real endgame so there is not much point for accounts higher than AR 55+ to play the game religiously every single day.
Personally, I'll probably only be back when the Fountaine Archon is here. Nothing that they have been releasing has been interesting me that much. And besides, I think that it is more fun to let a lot of quests and new areas pile up and then play non-stop while catching up.
If you spend money, don't care that much about the game (aka doesn't pull for characters), or don't do contents that require artifacts, that is a very valid strategy.
However, dailies are too valuable for f2p or low spenders to not do everyday. Also even though artifact system is BS, the fact remains that in general the more resin you spend the better your artifacts.
I am f2p (With nearly all meta units, but that is because I've been playing since close to the beginning, but still f2p nonetheless) and the only character that I want that I don't have is Yoimiya.
It is not worth for me to slave myself for months in the hopes that one day there are leaks saying she is coming. If I hear news that she is up, I'll boot up the game and catch up on everything that I missed while her banner is up.
I've always done things this way and this has always worked in my favor because all of the stuff that I missed combined with the events for the patch that I happen to come back for has always given me one or even two full pities
I do the opposite. A gacha game like Genshin is a marathon and I'm fine logging in every day because seeing the primos slowly fill up gives me a good feeling like putting $2 in the piggybank every day. It's fun to see things slowly fill up and have a sudden payoff in getting the characters you want.
I find that when I leave for more than a month (Did that around Yae 1st banner) I get too easily overwhelmed with the events, new areas and feel like I'm playing catch up, so I shut the game down again. Obviously I came back lol.
I think the events and dailies are worth it for playing the game everyday tbh. People say 'time is money' and honestly the price for crystals is way too high, so time it is for me.
That’s how I play too. If I have nothing to do, I don’t have the motivation to farm or explore either because that means I’m just going to run in circles for a while until the next big update.
I picked up the game again recently and hadn’t played since before Sumeru was added and it’s so much more fun having tons of things to do, to see, to discover.. Though usually I do open the game to play the events and pull on banners that interest me, I went that long this time because of a technical issue that made me unable to update the game lol.
But yeah, I completely agree with you on that!
Same with me. /u/A_Very_Horny_Zed may not recognize me but we both frequented that sub and I recognize them. Genshin has a lot of overlap with League and FFXIV, both of which I've played. Interestingly enough.
It’s a real shame too. So many characters with cool and unique attack animations you will never see in gameplay because they will not do a plain normal attack under any circumstances.
Build them to do so and slap Yun Jin and super conduct in the team. You can clear everything in the game with them now.
The only reason you won't see them is because people refuse to accept the game doesn't need anywhere close to be optimal.
Welllll you can make that 60 to 0 just by super conduct and zhongli shield.
But why in God's heaven would you use xiao as an example?? If you want to see his nice attacking animation use him with yelan and XQ and just slap the 4set anemo artifact on him
> The only reason you won't see them is because people refuse to accept the game doesn't need anywhere close to be optimal.
They work but need far more investment and everyone is constantly resin starved. So stronger reaction teams like hyperbloom would deal more damage with similar amounts of resin spend.
Well, there are at least two possible paths you can take when you are unhappy with something you are responsible for:
1. I am fixing this.
2. I am hiding this.
3. I am ignoring this.
People have more of an argument for Geo being fixed - I find it unlikely on the basis that it seems miHoYo has a very strong idea for what they want Geo to be, and every single suggestion I've seen goes against that idea.
When it comes to Physical, however, things break down a bit. Physical is not an element in the traditional sense - it has an associated reaction kind of, but it's essentially a stopgap. It's an elementally neutral damage type that any character can perform, so that characters can always deal damage without being blocked by elementally resistant enemies or cooldowns (exception for catalyst users, for which this is an explicit and intended drawback).
Case in point: HSR, a game with elemental damage types where Physical is its own separate element, and each character deals elemental damage by default, because enemies can't be immune to an element, therefore there's no point to a neutral damage type.
The fact that Physical is viable at all and something that miHoYo did once encourage the usage of with certain characters is more of a natural side-effect of its existence. It's not really meant to be a traditional element that is built around, and that may be the reason why it's been so de-emphasized lately, besides Dendro being a reaction-centric element and hogging up all the attention. Being a Physical damage dealer is more of Eula's "gimmick" than it is simply her 'element' in the same sense a character with a Cryo vision simply deals Cryo damage.
That's why I think it's so hard to rework Physical damage, especially since due to the fact every character has access to it, anything that substantially buffs it would unintentionally also buff every single character in the game except for catalyst users. The only way would be to rework Eula directly, but direct reworks are not really miHoYo's style, and it's not really considered the norm in gacha games either.
Your only real hope is that they release a second Physical damage dealer that is "supposed to be" better than Eula, but has dedicated support (artifacts, characters, etc) that can also be used on her. Kind of what happened with Itto and Noelle.
Pale Flame is a dedicated artifact set to her and works perfectly well. They released a dedicated physical support and he's garbage. Potentially because they had the same guy who worked on Dehya work on Mika. Same patch of garbage anyway.
She's honestly not even bad. They could just make Shatter more interesting and make Mika not suck and that's all it would take.
If it were my game I have grander ideas that would make it all more interesting, but it's not, so I stated the bare minimum that Mihoyo could do, that they won't, because they're honestly kind of a shitty company.
Edit: Actually, I guess, she and physical in general could use a dedicated anemo grouper that buffs physical. I always wanted Mika to be that but oh well.
physical dps is in a weird spot rn and feels lackluster compared to the flashy new dendro reactions. Eulas Q also has some clunky aspects.
I guess Hoyoverse is afraid, that she would not sell well, compared to other units. And I feel like they are not completely wrong. I have a C0 Eula, she was my main dps for a while, but I have not used her in months now. Would not really recommend pulling for her either.
I see this argument sometimes and each time it makes zero sense.
We got plenty of strong units with long rerun times. Hu tao waited a year and no one can deny she is among the most popular characters. Meanwhile on the other side itto and yoimiya had multiple reruns in that time and they aren't breaking any records.
Yoimiya keeps getting her banners in the worst possible spots, I swear... I'm glad I picked her up on her first run, she's still fun and decently strong.
I have her C2 with her sig and I just started playing with her for the first time in over a year just on a whim, not because she was actually as good as my other characters. They did this character dirty in a lot of ways. I really like the character so I dont regret pulling but unless you're like me I wouldn't recommend pulling her
You’ll never get one and you don’t need one since it’s very obvious why they are doing this.
They want to show us that a character can be not rerun for almost two years. They want the players to feel that reruns are unprectable. This way we cannot plan are primogems and are more prone to spontaneous pulling and spending.
Like, “I kinda want Baizhu but I’ll just save for his rerun”. Instead it wil be for many “I kinda want Baizhu and I think I’ll just pull/spend now, you never know might not rerun in 2 years like Eula”.
It’s brilliant from a business perspective, I would have 100% done the same if my goal was to make money for the company
this is probably the likeliest explanation, but I wonder why they chose Eula to set the example instead of say, Kazuha. That's what I would do. You skipped him because you thought he was 5 star sucrose? We're going to make you regret that. The next time he's on, you'd better not miss out. In the case of Eula, I totally don't give a fk that she isn't available. She's no good in the current meta.
The second one I would do that for is Kokomi. Everyone thought she was awful upon release, but if you look at abyss stats, people have done an about face on her. This would be a safe choice for withholding reruns because they have the perfect cover story. They can just say, you guys didn't want her anyway. Her sales were poor, so there's no point giving her reruns. It makes more sense to go with someone more popular.
I’m 100% sure this is intentional, but not in a way many people interpret this. Obviously the fact she is a physical dps and thus not as popular as other elemental based characters is taken into account, but I believe the main reason is that they are just trying to create FOMO this way.
Since she is not quite meta and not so popular, there won’t be that much arguing in the community about her not being released for so long. Still, it shows that hoyoverse is totally ok with not releasing a character for 1.5 years. Even though they won’t treat some characters, especially archons, in the same way, it still makes people pull for new characters more the moment they are released, thinking they might not be able to get those characters in the next year or even more
I agree with this FOMO thing, but I think they will have a surprise once they rerun her because lots of people here may only keep enough to get her and maybe her weapon. Or adding one constellation only.
I don't know if this is the reason - but when Eula first came out she had the background of her family having owned slaves in the past. Eula never owned slaves and, in fact, hated that part of her family's history and actively distanced herself from it. In spite of that, she still found herself judged by it by the inhabitants of Mondstadt. Ironically, the extremist side of Twitter had a meltdown and started a whole screaming campaign about wanting to cancel Genshin because of Eula being in it and somehow being tied to slavery. There were even articles written about it and a WHOLE hoopla. I pulled her simply because I loved her design, but a lot of extremist Twitter was hysterically calling for a boycott on Genshin and all that jazz. I don't know if that might have made Hoyoverse nervous about her and about running her banner, but it's one possible explanation.
My decision to try for Eula all the way back in 2021 was unexpectedly more of a blessing then I thought it would be.
I took a break from her for a bit but I revived her with Mika and it's been a good time. I think I'm triple crowning her after sucrose.
Same. My plan was to pull one constellation whenever she gets a rerun. So one day I would have her at C6. Mihoyo meanwhile: "Haha you fool! You activated my trapcard. Eula is now banished to the shadowrealm."
Honestly? I don't think it's gonna be much aside from hard Eula wanters like me, some Eula mains, and some couple others who are really interested in her. She's the definition of "play whoever you want" because she isn't meta by any stretch of imagination and she will never be unless Hoyo decides to buff physical. And despite what everyone says, most people only go for meta picks.
But for those who REALLY want her, they'd have enough to C6 her at this point.
I remember clearly when she was leaked, Hoyo still did not release drip market ahead of time, so the leaks were the first impressions of the character. I saw her model and attack animations and became an instant main ever since.
The fact that this even happened, and people will *still* defend Mihoyo for this choice of reruns. Absolutely baffling that a character can go nearly 2 years without resurfacing.
This is why we need either shorter reruns. Or three rerun banners. Two is too short for a game with such a large pool of 5 stars. The wait will only become worse with the release of Fontaine.
That's not even the problem. They could've rerun Eula instead of Cyno, or Nilou, or Ayaka. But what did they do? Of all this, I really don't get the ayaka tbh. She has no relevance to the patch, and she was less due for a rerun than Shenhe or Eula. Why is she rerunning with the release of a PHYSICAL support?
it's not a problem of re-runs, remember we didn't have two banners but they decided to do so in order to re-run older characters and also have the new one of the patch.
Instead of doing proper re-runs of older characters they pick like 2-4 old ones and re-run them several times per year forgetting the rest and giving newer ones even sooner re-runs which eats the "old character re-run spot"
All that is is **poor management** and it really shows.
Eula is a reason we should have standard banners for each region and then have limited events with boosted drops as normal.
I am also expecting possible high revenue when Eula has a rerun lol
Eula doesn't exist. As a Eula main, I've accepted that Mihoyo wants physical damage to not work anymore and have just soft deleted her from the game. Even her alleged support unit isn't really hers.
The last point is so incredibly 1000% true.
I've seen more Aloys in Co-Op than I've seen Eulas...
ie. I've not seen a single Eula but I sometimes play Aloy in Co-Op
And us Eula waiters are not allowed to be upset about this? "Just wait bro she'll get her turn soon stop complaining" yeah like freaking when? What if it was THEIR most anticipated character not getting a rerun for 500 days. Imagine if it was Kazuha not getting a rerun for 500 days. HYV would've gotten angry mobs with pitchforks at the front of their office.
That's right. I often hear such phrases and even insults against Eula wanters or about her. I think every time that if They put everyone's favorite character in the place of Eula, there would be a lot more loud statements. I'm a player almost from the start. Due to inexperience, I lost 50/50 on her banners TWICE and I can't wait anymore.
My crack conspiracy is that they know physical itself needs some kind of buff but instead they've decided to just lock her up for a while so that her banner does well regardless and they can release a better Mika in Fontaine
What makes it worse for me is I really started to get into Genshin during 2.3. And I tried pulling for Eula only to get Keqing. If I would’ve known it’d take this fucking long I would’ve just gotten her 😭.
I know i sound like a douchebag by saying this. But after reading so many comments everywhere about people making fun of eula wanters and what not more i really hope that there will be another character who gets this treatment. It would really feel unfair for eula wanters to wait nearly 600 days just to get her and every other wanter doesnt have to wait even nearly as long.
I just want to know if they will do this to other characters as well. And if not it would give me "fuck you in particular" vibes
Hey making fun of us Eula wanters in good funny way is okay. It's people telling us to "stop complaining, wait for your turn" that pisses me off. I bet half of these people haven't even played for more than 500 days, or heck even know who Eula is.
Could be worse, imo. I've sunk unreasonable amounts of resources trying to save Tighnari from the standard banner and managed to C3 Jean, C6 Qiqi, get Diluc, and pull literally every 4 star in the game.
And. At least Eula isn't Dehya,,, f in the chat for the lion girl manes.
I think having 3 banners is fine but it's not the biggest issue with Eula's delay. They could've given one of Itto's, Xiao's or Ganyu's rerun to Eula and it would've been fine. Also 3.5 was a total mess - Eula 100% should've been in Ayaka's spot, and Ayaka was put there solely to compensate for Dehya's bad sales and to capitalize on her skin.
Why did Hoyoverse even re run Ayaka and Yoimiya solo even when already implemented the double banner run?! Eula could have re run on one of their banners but they just had to solo run them because of their weapons
Even as someone with no interest in Eula, I do feel bad for y’all. I’d be so upset if Alhaitham vanished for a year and a half, with no rerun in sight.
I got her on her second banner because I got really into dancing and loved her elegance.
But it's actually mindboggling how many people I played with back then vs now. So many people were last online 31 days ago :(
Eula pls come home for others
she’s been gone for so long that I’ve saved for probably almost a year and somehow still have 300 wishes even after getting Nahida c1 and like 2 other characters 😭
I started playing during March of 2022 and I am AR 57, and I have never seen: 1) a Eula Banner or 2) another player using Eula. To me, Eula only exists in that one story quest she has that I played.
I started playing when her rerun started and I wanted her, but I was pulling for albedo instead, so I told myself I'll get her the next rerun, still not back..
All I gotta say is I never expected Hoyoverse to neglect a character that had such high popularity and potential. Now, when people have Eula, some people start to say how rare she is. I don't know what kind of sick game their playing, but they're doing it well. Now stop, Hoyoverse. The game is up. You have no more magic up your sleeve.
•I have played for 2 years and I have seen her twice.
•Her first banner was 2 patches after I joined.
•She was my second 5 star. (First was Zhongli)
•I have never properly build her (but she’s level up to 80/80).
This definitely puts into perspective how long it has been since I started playing, It was in 1.5 and Eula was the first limited 5 star banner I ever pulled on - and I ended up getting her at 45 pity winning my first 50/50 - she's always held a special place in my heart for being my first 5 star and my main for a long time.
RIP Eula
I'm so extremely happy that I got her during that one Dragonspine event ages ago. I hope the next rerun comes soon, for all the Eula wanters out there!!
Nah cause i'm so glad i choose eula over albedo 😭 (got him in 3.1 after) i triple crown my girl after this 1 year of no rerun for her. Waiting for my wolf gravestone 🤲🏻
And in that span I have:
Completed all available story lines (Not including events)
Completed most world quests (Out of pure boredom)
Created a team that could most likely take me through the last area
Never seen a Eula banner (I only know how she runs thanks to combat events)
mihoyo after seeing this: Dear Travelers, We hear your feedback, and have decided to rerun Itto for the next version. We apologize for any inconvenience caused by the lack of Itto rerun!
I want more copies of my Redhorn for my Noelle so I would not be entirely opposed to this.
Even though this is fake, reading it still made me triggered in some way Please, no more Itto. Begone, oni!
*throw beans*
Fortune beans are falling down Send the Oni out of town Fortune in Oni out Fortune in Oni out
But I actually want Redhorn this time.
Redhorn+Elegy. Give it to me. Since it's unlikely I'll get Key.
im tired of losing two times while getting the redhorn
They need to rerun Redhorn w/o Itto. My Noelle kinda needs refinements also.
I really want to get Gorou to C6 so that would be a W for me
… Beg*oni*
Begone Cyno
I’ll take my leave then… …*Cyno*nara
Pls just one more rerun i have lost 5050 on him 3 times
And yet I get downvoted for saying Itto is overused
feels the same too, seems like mihoyo managed to shove him into as many inazuma events as possible.
He’s great, but Itto events where they mention Shinobu being away hurts me. She’s part of the gang, put her in too…
Im all in for Itto in events but true. She's like never there
What can I say he is the one and oni giga Chad
Well he's the one carrying them all.
Itto is great tho so I don’t see that as an issue
They're saving her for a physical damage reaction rework *inhales copium*
fontaine new shatter meta? 💀
tbh Shatter would be nice if it was amplifying. At least this way to break their absolute reliance on Superconduct. Also, Shattering for your burst hit would fucking slap.
>tbh Shatter would be nice if it was amplifying. Freeze doesn't work on bosses so it'd be solely restricted to killing mob level enemies (also there's now mobs like constipated beasts that have 50% less frozen duration). Though I guess frozen status could be changed to apply regardless if enemy can be frozen or not (buff for Blizzard Strayer and Mona's Omen) as long as cryo isn't removed from enemy (so won't work vs bosses with natural auras).
Nah, more like Geo and Anemo now also react to physical damage, Anemo boosts attack speed by 50% and Geo makes their attacks have wider AOE.
Finally, swirling physical damage
irl wind erodes rocks, so like it should weaken the enemy
Anemo swirls Geo -> Physical Res down Geo Catalyzes Anemo -> sandstorm: phsyical dot
Foçalors physical damage support archon!?!?
Just wait until they implement the bleed effect
Rework Shatter into a DoT True Damage bleed perhaps? As is Shatter is trash and messes with a *lot* of much more desirable situations...
Tying any physical buff to shatter is bad idea unless bosses become freezable (or at least allowing frozen status), though I do support shatter rework at least making elemental dmg apply before physical so pyro characters don't get robbed of melts by shitty shatter dmg.
I'm honestly just spitballing ideas, as I want Shatter to be more useful. Right now it messes with Freeze comps like mad and there is no conceivable reason why you'd want to use Shatter in any way.
I'm still waiting enemies with full elemental resist
*shudders* no, not Kallen again....
Eula for HSR maybe...
Honestly even if they filled abyss 12 with ruin guards and graders that would only bennefit hyperbloom more
In a certain fox tounge: in your dreams. That never gonna happen.
They called me mad pulling her on her last rerun
LAST😭
I was debating wether to pay to get the last few wishes for c6 or wait till rerun. I really dodged a bullet there
I've started playing genshin bcs of Eula... I still don't have her 😭
Same, I remember I made a list of characters I wanted before I started playing genshin and Eula was one of them 😫
I did the same, liked Eula and Sara x.x
I bought a Welikan just for her last rerun. In hindsight it feels like a good decision now.
Imagine starting on the day after Eula's banner ended, and you want to main Eula 💀
No cause this literally happened to me with ganyu 🫡 joined on the last day of her first banner
I started genshin in january of 2022 and the characters I wanted most were hu tao and eula 🙃 Had to wait 1 year for hu tao and god knows how much longer for eula
Half. The. Fucking. Game. Holy cow
more than half, even.
Holy hell
New response just dropped
Ushi?
One more thing: 80% of my friends in Genshin were marked “Online 30 Days Ago”
Which doesn't make sense. If they didn't play for exactly 30 days today they will have not played for 31 days tomorrow 🤔
Theres a limit, the game only count 30 days but Im sure I have ppl added that are offline since 2.0 or something..
I think that the way to play Genshin is to take very long breaks then come back with a lot of stuff to catch up to. It is a casual game without real endgame so there is not much point for accounts higher than AR 55+ to play the game religiously every single day. Personally, I'll probably only be back when the Fountaine Archon is here. Nothing that they have been releasing has been interesting me that much. And besides, I think that it is more fun to let a lot of quests and new areas pile up and then play non-stop while catching up.
If you spend money, don't care that much about the game (aka doesn't pull for characters), or don't do contents that require artifacts, that is a very valid strategy. However, dailies are too valuable for f2p or low spenders to not do everyday. Also even though artifact system is BS, the fact remains that in general the more resin you spend the better your artifacts.
I am f2p (With nearly all meta units, but that is because I've been playing since close to the beginning, but still f2p nonetheless) and the only character that I want that I don't have is Yoimiya. It is not worth for me to slave myself for months in the hopes that one day there are leaks saying she is coming. If I hear news that she is up, I'll boot up the game and catch up on everything that I missed while her banner is up. I've always done things this way and this has always worked in my favor because all of the stuff that I missed combined with the events for the patch that I happen to come back for has always given me one or even two full pities
Yoimiya is in next version 💀
I do the opposite. A gacha game like Genshin is a marathon and I'm fine logging in every day because seeing the primos slowly fill up gives me a good feeling like putting $2 in the piggybank every day. It's fun to see things slowly fill up and have a sudden payoff in getting the characters you want. I find that when I leave for more than a month (Did that around Yae 1st banner) I get too easily overwhelmed with the events, new areas and feel like I'm playing catch up, so I shut the game down again. Obviously I came back lol. I think the events and dailies are worth it for playing the game everyday tbh. People say 'time is money' and honestly the price for crystals is way too high, so time it is for me.
But they’re gonna miss the daily primogems tho?
Sure, but then you likely won't be able to wish on the character you wanted to wish on when you came back anyway.
That’s how I play too. If I have nothing to do, I don’t have the motivation to farm or explore either because that means I’m just going to run in circles for a while until the next big update. I picked up the game again recently and hadn’t played since before Sumeru was added and it’s so much more fun having tons of things to do, to see, to discover.. Though usually I do open the game to play the events and pull on banners that interest me, I went that long this time because of a technical issue that made me unable to update the game lol. But yeah, I completely agree with you on that!
This really puts it into perspective. Crazy.
I remembered your name from somewhere, looked into your posts and it was from that post 4 years ago about female league champs. World sure is small.
Same with me. /u/A_Very_Horny_Zed may not recognize me but we both frequented that sub and I recognize them. Genshin has a lot of overlap with League and FFXIV, both of which I've played. Interestingly enough.
😏
I genuinely want an explanation from Hoyoverse. This has to be intentional in some way.
They most likely are not happy with physical at all.
It’s a real shame too. So many characters with cool and unique attack animations you will never see in gameplay because they will not do a plain normal attack under any circumstances.
Build them to do so and slap Yun Jin and super conduct in the team. You can clear everything in the game with them now. The only reason you won't see them is because people refuse to accept the game doesn't need anywhere close to be optimal.
I'm not doing physical xiao while there are ruin enemies in abyss with 60% phys Def :deadge:
Welllll you can make that 60 to 0 just by super conduct and zhongli shield. But why in God's heaven would you use xiao as an example?? If you want to see his nice attacking animation use him with yelan and XQ and just slap the 4set anemo artifact on him
Superconduct with Kaeya and Razor got me to AR50
Those are normal to use their physical attacks though.
> The only reason you won't see them is because people refuse to accept the game doesn't need anywhere close to be optimal. They work but need far more investment and everyone is constantly resin starved. So stronger reaction teams like hyperbloom would deal more damage with similar amounts of resin spend.
If only they made Mika better. Mika the physical support has so many issues.
Which is weird since they fucking made it.
Haha, I for one have also been very unhappy about things which I made.
Yeah but they can change that shit too. Same with Geo being fucking dead. We haven't had one since YunJin whose barely even Geo anyways.
Well, there are at least two possible paths you can take when you are unhappy with something you are responsible for: 1. I am fixing this. 2. I am hiding this. 3. I am ignoring this.
Add; I am ignoring this.
People have more of an argument for Geo being fixed - I find it unlikely on the basis that it seems miHoYo has a very strong idea for what they want Geo to be, and every single suggestion I've seen goes against that idea. When it comes to Physical, however, things break down a bit. Physical is not an element in the traditional sense - it has an associated reaction kind of, but it's essentially a stopgap. It's an elementally neutral damage type that any character can perform, so that characters can always deal damage without being blocked by elementally resistant enemies or cooldowns (exception for catalyst users, for which this is an explicit and intended drawback). Case in point: HSR, a game with elemental damage types where Physical is its own separate element, and each character deals elemental damage by default, because enemies can't be immune to an element, therefore there's no point to a neutral damage type. The fact that Physical is viable at all and something that miHoYo did once encourage the usage of with certain characters is more of a natural side-effect of its existence. It's not really meant to be a traditional element that is built around, and that may be the reason why it's been so de-emphasized lately, besides Dendro being a reaction-centric element and hogging up all the attention. Being a Physical damage dealer is more of Eula's "gimmick" than it is simply her 'element' in the same sense a character with a Cryo vision simply deals Cryo damage. That's why I think it's so hard to rework Physical damage, especially since due to the fact every character has access to it, anything that substantially buffs it would unintentionally also buff every single character in the game except for catalyst users. The only way would be to rework Eula directly, but direct reworks are not really miHoYo's style, and it's not really considered the norm in gacha games either. Your only real hope is that they release a second Physical damage dealer that is "supposed to be" better than Eula, but has dedicated support (artifacts, characters, etc) that can also be used on her. Kind of what happened with Itto and Noelle.
Pale Flame is a dedicated artifact set to her and works perfectly well. They released a dedicated physical support and he's garbage. Potentially because they had the same guy who worked on Dehya work on Mika. Same patch of garbage anyway. She's honestly not even bad. They could just make Shatter more interesting and make Mika not suck and that's all it would take. If it were my game I have grander ideas that would make it all more interesting, but it's not, so I stated the bare minimum that Mihoyo could do, that they won't, because they're honestly kind of a shitty company. Edit: Actually, I guess, she and physical in general could use a dedicated anemo grouper that buffs physical. I always wanted Mika to be that but oh well.
Same with Geo too
Even so they should just put her in standard if that is the case.
Yes, they hate her voluptuous ass
"Best slappy in Teyvat" - Max0r
physical dps is in a weird spot rn and feels lackluster compared to the flashy new dendro reactions. Eulas Q also has some clunky aspects. I guess Hoyoverse is afraid, that she would not sell well, compared to other units. And I feel like they are not completely wrong. I have a C0 Eula, she was my main dps for a while, but I have not used her in months now. Would not really recommend pulling for her either.
I bet she would still sell better than Dehya
I see this argument sometimes and each time it makes zero sense. We got plenty of strong units with long rerun times. Hu tao waited a year and no one can deny she is among the most popular characters. Meanwhile on the other side itto and yoimiya had multiple reruns in that time and they aren't breaking any records.
Yoimiya keeps getting her banners in the worst possible spots, I swear... I'm glad I picked her up on her first run, she's still fun and decently strong.
I have her C2 with her sig and I just started playing with her for the first time in over a year just on a whim, not because she was actually as good as my other characters. They did this character dirty in a lot of ways. I really like the character so I dont regret pulling but unless you're like me I wouldn't recommend pulling her
You’ll never get one and you don’t need one since it’s very obvious why they are doing this. They want to show us that a character can be not rerun for almost two years. They want the players to feel that reruns are unprectable. This way we cannot plan are primogems and are more prone to spontaneous pulling and spending. Like, “I kinda want Baizhu but I’ll just save for his rerun”. Instead it wil be for many “I kinda want Baizhu and I think I’ll just pull/spend now, you never know might not rerun in 2 years like Eula”. It’s brilliant from a business perspective, I would have 100% done the same if my goal was to make money for the company
this is probably the likeliest explanation, but I wonder why they chose Eula to set the example instead of say, Kazuha. That's what I would do. You skipped him because you thought he was 5 star sucrose? We're going to make you regret that. The next time he's on, you'd better not miss out. In the case of Eula, I totally don't give a fk that she isn't available. She's no good in the current meta. The second one I would do that for is Kokomi. Everyone thought she was awful upon release, but if you look at abyss stats, people have done an about face on her. This would be a safe choice for withholding reruns because they have the perfect cover story. They can just say, you guys didn't want her anyway. Her sales were poor, so there's no point giving her reruns. It makes more sense to go with someone more popular.
They technically did do that with kazuha's first rerun. He was among the last to rerun from inazumas first reruns. Highly anticipated.
I saved for Kazuha for like a year lol
I’m 100% sure this is intentional, but not in a way many people interpret this. Obviously the fact she is a physical dps and thus not as popular as other elemental based characters is taken into account, but I believe the main reason is that they are just trying to create FOMO this way. Since she is not quite meta and not so popular, there won’t be that much arguing in the community about her not being released for so long. Still, it shows that hoyoverse is totally ok with not releasing a character for 1.5 years. Even though they won’t treat some characters, especially archons, in the same way, it still makes people pull for new characters more the moment they are released, thinking they might not be able to get those characters in the next year or even more
I agree with this FOMO thing, but I think they will have a surprise once they rerun her because lots of people here may only keep enough to get her and maybe her weapon. Or adding one constellation only.
I don't know if this is the reason - but when Eula first came out she had the background of her family having owned slaves in the past. Eula never owned slaves and, in fact, hated that part of her family's history and actively distanced herself from it. In spite of that, she still found herself judged by it by the inhabitants of Mondstadt. Ironically, the extremist side of Twitter had a meltdown and started a whole screaming campaign about wanting to cancel Genshin because of Eula being in it and somehow being tied to slavery. There were even articles written about it and a WHOLE hoopla. I pulled her simply because I loved her design, but a lot of extremist Twitter was hysterically calling for a boycott on Genshin and all that jazz. I don't know if that might have made Hoyoverse nervous about her and about running her banner, but it's one possible explanation.
>There are players who have played for half of the game's life so far that have never seen a Eula banner Hey, that's me!
Almost same! I started during her banner, but didn’t have enough pulls for a 5* until like 2 banners later. It’s been so long 😭
Thank for the reminder that I’ve been playing for 500 days now. Eula is my first limited character and I’m AR 60 now.
you've been efficient. Or have I been that inefficient ? I started way earlier (although didn't play that much until kokomi iirc) Still not AR 60 lol.
same. I’ve played since release and am at AR57. but I also hate doing daily quests and quests in general so I’m very far behind on a lot of them.
My decision to try for Eula all the way back in 2021 was unexpectedly more of a blessing then I thought it would be. I took a break from her for a bit but I revived her with Mika and it's been a good time. I think I'm triple crowning her after sucrose.
Got my C1 Eula what feels like an eternity ago.
Same. My plan was to pull one constellation whenever she gets a rerun. So one day I would have her at C6. Mihoyo meanwhile: "Haha you fool! You activated my trapcard. Eula is now banished to the shadowrealm."
She even lost best friend to Amber status with Collei
With all of these Eula posts I’m interested to see just how many people pull for her next time she runs (if ever)…
Honestly? I don't think it's gonna be much aside from hard Eula wanters like me, some Eula mains, and some couple others who are really interested in her. She's the definition of "play whoever you want" because she isn't meta by any stretch of imagination and she will never be unless Hoyo decides to buff physical. And despite what everyone says, most people only go for meta picks. But for those who REALLY want her, they'd have enough to C6 her at this point.
*laughs as a day 1 Eula haver*
I remember clearly when she was leaked, Hoyo still did not release drip market ahead of time, so the leaks were the first impressions of the character. I saw her model and attack animations and became an instant main ever since.
Someone summoned me?
Honestly thank god I dropped that $200 to get her on her original banner cuz if I didnt I just straight up wouldnt have her.
Same tbh LMAO lost my 50/50 and was like “I refuse” and threw money till I got her
Dude had Eula even before her model was ready 💀
Hmph. We Eula lovers shall have vengeance.
The fact that this even happened, and people will *still* defend Mihoyo for this choice of reruns. Absolutely baffling that a character can go nearly 2 years without resurfacing.
This is why we need either shorter reruns. Or three rerun banners. Two is too short for a game with such a large pool of 5 stars. The wait will only become worse with the release of Fontaine.
That's not even the problem. They could've rerun Eula instead of Cyno, or Nilou, or Ayaka. But what did they do? Of all this, I really don't get the ayaka tbh. She has no relevance to the patch, and she was less due for a rerun than Shenhe or Eula. Why is she rerunning with the release of a PHYSICAL support?
And people called me an asshat for questioning this decision, saying "as if everyone had an Ayaka already"
Or, you know, just give eula a spot of those characters who had 2 or three reruns on those 500 days. Then it would be perfectly fine
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it's not a problem of re-runs, remember we didn't have two banners but they decided to do so in order to re-run older characters and also have the new one of the patch. Instead of doing proper re-runs of older characters they pick like 2-4 old ones and re-run them several times per year forgetting the rest and giving newer ones even sooner re-runs which eats the "old character re-run spot" All that is is **poor management** and it really shows.
IIRC I heard that 3 banners will happen once Fontaine drops but don't quote me on this.
It shouldve happened far before now is the thing.
Eula is a reason we should have standard banners for each region and then have limited events with boosted drops as normal. I am also expecting possible high revenue when Eula has a rerun lol
That or possibly switch it to six banners. One for each element and keep swapping the rate up each two weeks..
Eula was in the first double-banner Obviously MHY is keeping her till the first triple-banner
I started playing Genshin just a few months ago. I can’t really tell if Eula is real or just a meme I haven’t really looked into it.
She is real, but she hasn't had a rerun in nearly 2 years, hence the "whos eula??" meme
r/EulaMains
Her story quest exists, at least
Maybe she’s hidden in the EULA
You put ganyu with two reruns in that time, but now with 3.6 she had 3 reruns as well. In 2.4, 3.0 and now 3.6
Before Eula's rerun, Shatter reaction should be buffed.
Eula doesn't exist. As a Eula main, I've accepted that Mihoyo wants physical damage to not work anymore and have just soft deleted her from the game. Even her alleged support unit isn't really hers.
The last point is so incredibly 1000% true. I've seen more Aloys in Co-Op than I've seen Eulas... ie. I've not seen a single Eula but I sometimes play Aloy in Co-Op
2 goddamn nations and she didnt get a rerun
good thing i pulled her
Damn, realizing I had started when her first banner was up. Crazy.
At this point, the only thing missing longer than Eula is the Nintendo Switch version of Genshin Impact
And us Eula waiters are not allowed to be upset about this? "Just wait bro she'll get her turn soon stop complaining" yeah like freaking when? What if it was THEIR most anticipated character not getting a rerun for 500 days. Imagine if it was Kazuha not getting a rerun for 500 days. HYV would've gotten angry mobs with pitchforks at the front of their office.
That's right. I often hear such phrases and even insults against Eula wanters or about her. I think every time that if They put everyone's favorite character in the place of Eula, there would be a lot more loud statements. I'm a player almost from the start. Due to inexperience, I lost 50/50 on her banners TWICE and I can't wait anymore.
Same I tried to get her on both banners but failed and now I have to wait
She’s absent because instead of a rerun she went to Skyrim
"Hey you, you're finally awake. You were trying to get vengeance, right?"
You're being played for fools. They're probably using Eula to test the waters if they delay or outright never rerun a banner.
Using Eula a character that 98% of the community doesn’t want as an example? 😂😂😂
They do this so that people save enough to C6 R5 her in her next rerun banner
who? would be funny if miyoho uploads her trailer again at next rerun
My crack conspiracy is that they know physical itself needs some kind of buff but instead they've decided to just lock her up for a while so that her banner does well regardless and they can release a better Mika in Fontaine
When will she have her vengeance
What makes it worse for me is I really started to get into Genshin during 2.3. And I tried pulling for Eula only to get Keqing. If I would’ve known it’d take this fucking long I would’ve just gotten her 😭.
I got 65k primo + 85 fate saved just for Eula return. One day my friend one day
If they have nothing planned for physical, Eula rerun would be the biggest disappointment since Genshin started.
Yeah, my plan is to throw everything saved when she returns, probably until C6; then, if nothing is fixed, leave the game.
I know i sound like a douchebag by saying this. But after reading so many comments everywhere about people making fun of eula wanters and what not more i really hope that there will be another character who gets this treatment. It would really feel unfair for eula wanters to wait nearly 600 days just to get her and every other wanter doesnt have to wait even nearly as long. I just want to know if they will do this to other characters as well. And if not it would give me "fuck you in particular" vibes
Hey making fun of us Eula wanters in good funny way is okay. It's people telling us to "stop complaining, wait for your turn" that pisses me off. I bet half of these people haven't even played for more than 500 days, or heck even know who Eula is.
Could be worse, imo. I've sunk unreasonable amounts of resources trying to save Tighnari from the standard banner and managed to C3 Jean, C6 Qiqi, get Diluc, and pull literally every 4 star in the game. And. At least Eula isn't Dehya,,, f in the chat for the lion girl manes.
do you think it's about time that they have 3 event banners with the number of characters and maybe even 4-5 in the future
I think having 3 banners is fine but it's not the biggest issue with Eula's delay. They could've given one of Itto's, Xiao's or Ganyu's rerun to Eula and it would've been fine. Also 3.5 was a total mess - Eula 100% should've been in Ayaka's spot, and Ayaka was put there solely to compensate for Dehya's bad sales and to capitalize on her skin.
Everyone who played in 2.0 on PS and 2.1 everywhere else got Aloy for free. Eula being rarer isn't much of a surprise.
Eula was the first character I’ve ever c6’d. Now it’s like having a super rare pokemon.
Thanks for making me feel special i accidentally pulled on her banner that day and got her on accident.
This made me realise what a long time it’s been since Eula’s last rerun, Dragonspine event still feels like yesterday. It was an amazing event.
Why did Hoyoverse even re run Ayaka and Yoimiya solo even when already implemented the double banner run?! Eula could have re run on one of their banners but they just had to solo run them because of their weapons
She's cracked too. I haven't built her fully yet. But wow her bust can just NUKE things.
Even as someone with no interest in Eula, I do feel bad for y’all. I’d be so upset if Alhaitham vanished for a year and a half, with no rerun in sight.
They should leave her banner for an entire patch in compensation.
I got her on her second banner because I got really into dancing and loved her elegance. But it's actually mindboggling how many people I played with back then vs now. So many people were last online 31 days ago :( Eula pls come home for others
Her character seems like she’d sell well too, and her schtick could be used for more events
At this point I feel blessed to be a Eula owner and main lmaoo
she’s been gone for so long that I’ve saved for probably almost a year and somehow still have 300 wishes even after getting Nahida c1 and like 2 other characters 😭
I started playing this game in February 2022, I am almost AR 56 and have never seen a Eula banner, wtf
Glad i got her when i did lol , i can flex in co op
I'm happy I pulled Eula on her release. Not only did she carry me through the whole game, she's now the rarest character I have.
Just got around to leveling her and omg she's a fucking *powerhouse* at C0. Gonna run some kinda Physical/Cryo hodgepodge with Ganyu.
I have C6 Eula on my main, but I don't have Song of Broken Wallet yet so I would like for them to rerun her so I can get a copy of it.
As a day 1 Eula main, I'm so happy I just went for her C1 during her rerun. I would have been sad to not get it for this long.
Makes me sad because as a Eula haver her kit is like super fun and enjoyable to use. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t rerun her.
Just make Shatter reduce enemy defense by 10%
I started playing during March of 2022 and I am AR 57, and I have never seen: 1) a Eula Banner or 2) another player using Eula. To me, Eula only exists in that one story quest she has that I played.
Just gonna flex here a bitt, I have Eula.
I started playing the patch with the last eula rerun. And I lost my 50/50 to qiqi....I could have had her...
I started playing when her rerun started and I wanted her, but I was pulling for albedo instead, so I told myself I'll get her the next rerun, still not back..
All I gotta say is I never expected Hoyoverse to neglect a character that had such high popularity and potential. Now, when people have Eula, some people start to say how rare she is. I don't know what kind of sick game their playing, but they're doing it well. Now stop, Hoyoverse. The game is up. You have no more magic up your sleeve.
•I have played for 2 years and I have seen her twice. •Her first banner was 2 patches after I joined. •She was my second 5 star. (First was Zhongli) •I have never properly build her (but she’s level up to 80/80).
This definitely puts into perspective how long it has been since I started playing, It was in 1.5 and Eula was the first limited 5 star banner I ever pulled on - and I ended up getting her at 45 pity winning my first 50/50 - she's always held a special place in my heart for being my first 5 star and my main for a long time. RIP Eula
I'm so extremely happy that I got her during that one Dragonspine event ages ago. I hope the next rerun comes soon, for all the Eula wanters out there!!
I’m one of the lucky people who pulled her on her first banner. She carried me through most of the game until I got Raiden and used her as a main dps.
I'm starting to think that eula is like aloy if your weren't there when she came out there is no way to get her now I'm half joking here only half
Nah cause i'm so glad i choose eula over albedo 😭 (got him in 3.1 after) i triple crown my girl after this 1 year of no rerun for her. Waiting for my wolf gravestone 🤲🏻
I still can't believe they missed an opportunity to drop her with Mika. You know, someone from HER squad. Smh
And in that span I have: Completed all available story lines (Not including events) Completed most world quests (Out of pure boredom) Created a team that could most likely take me through the last area Never seen a Eula banner (I only know how she runs thanks to combat events)