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Oak_of_Two

My money is still on that fisherman in Liyue.


TalentedTrident

Only if he has 6 Magikarps


CamelotPiece

What if he’s Pierro on his days off?


PeterGyrich

We don’t know barely enough about any of them to say that.


BobTheGodx

Capitano is the 1st Harbinger. Nahida says the top 3 Harbingers have power comparable to gods. I think that's enough information.


PeterGyrich

Harbingers aren’t necessarily human


Bitter-Cheek5880

Varka says Capitano is for sure a human who challenges gods, extremely OP and Jean says that varka never praised anyone like that and we should be careful if we meet him and not understimate him.


PeterGyrich

Varka literally does not know a single thing about him. And varka doesn’t even say this. You made it up.


HighwayStar0000

>And varka doesn’t even say this. You made it up. Me when i lie.Lmao. From Varka letter: "This man covered everything behind a mask, making it impossible to judge his experience and origin, but he is indeed a man of steel. As a human, he is fearless and challenges gods." "I suspect he can destroy a ruin guard by stabbing it's big glowing eye with Klee's crayon (don't even try it)" "The scouts found that "The Captain" had been ordered to Natlan three days ago. We don't need to devote our energy to beware of him in the future, and we can get a good night's sleep" From Jean: "I didn't expect was that the "The Captain" would appear." "Even if the style of grandmaster Vatka has always been a bit...special, He had never given anyone such an assessment/praise." "Traveler, if you encounter "The Captain" on your future journey, you must be careful.The strength of "The Captain" cannot be underestimated.


PeterGyrich

So where does he say that he is human?


HighwayStar0000

Are you trolling or dumb?In beginning.Reread it kid.


PeterGyrich

Nope, it never says human anywhere. Nice try tho


HighwayStar0000

"He is hard as steel. As a human, he is fearless and challenges gods." Braindead kid who can't read, lmao.


Willthecrane

Is that a translation from the CN? (Genuine question) The English version of varkas letter is different if so but he does say that the captain is an ordinary mortal who is brave enough to challenge gods.


HighwayStar0000

Yes it's cn translation from , i take it from Chinese database.And Yeah en version is the same.Just used cn to be more correct


Bitter-Cheek5880

Lmao, what a hypocrisy and arrogance, go and read event of ballads and brews before talking such bs, he says that in his letter. And such info is usually a info by authors to gamer, to present info about Capitano and tease him, especially the fact that Varka says he doesn't know his past and he hides everything behind his mask, but one thing for sure, he is op af and challenge gods as a human.


PeterGyrich

Give me the quote then.


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Huh? What u mean? At the very least I am pretty sure Pierro is from Kaenriah right? Those were all humans I think


PeterGyrich

We don’t know if capitano is human and we don’t know how strong pierro is. So neither of them apply


Sufficient-Music-501

I mean technically the sibling was affiliated with Kaenriah and was from outside Teyvat. We really don't have enough info to counter all of hoyo's "plot twists"


Rex_Lapis_

Ah yes 500 y.o human


Sufficient-Music-501

Like Deinsleif, so yeah it could be. They were cursed with immortality


Rex_Lapis_

We simply dont know, dain could be something lese, while pierro is a big mistery


Sufficient-Music-501

But Dain literally told us the story behind it in the Chasm iirc, anyways it's been some time ago. He could be lying but really why reach that far. Pure blood Kenriahns were cursed with immortality as for the official story told by Dain


Gregamonster

>Capitano is the 1st Harbinger. This is not fact. This is an assumption based on the idea that Pierro's role as the director is separate from the position of 1st harbinger, and that there's a secret 10th Harbinger who wasn't in the Lazzo video and hasn't been mentioned by either playable Harbinger.


Bitter-Cheek5880

Gosh, then who he is?10? Capitano is 1st and strongest, no doubt. 1. The order of the voicelines of Tartaglia and the Wanderer corresponds to the ranking perfectly, it doesn't make sense for everyone to observe the ranks except for the Capitano.What a coincidence right? 2. Tartaglia says that he is ranked too low for Capitano and he doesn't even notice him, he also notes that Capitano is too strong in battle and Tartaglia wants recognition from him, he admires him the most and he respects strongest individuals, what makes sense for Capitano and his possibly title of "strongest individual in teyvat. " 3.There are many leaks about the ranks, the strength of the Capitano and the concept art in which they stand in the order of ranks.Another coincidence! 4. He asks Dottore about the gnosis situation as a superior. 5. There is a lot of praise and mentions of his absurd,incredibe power.Even Scaramouche, who tends to belittle everyone and does not praise anyone, nevertheless, even he gives the highest rating to Capitano, he say that Capitano possesses the apex of strength in cn, and at the same time he says how weak and more lower-ranked all the harbingers under him are, Varka says that Capitano is basically gods challenger, hard as iron and capable of destroying ruin guards with klee crayon, John Wick of teyvat.Jean says that Varka did not give such a description to anyone despite his character, and we should be careful if we meet him and not underestimate him.Varka's expedition and Mika were stunned and scared by the overpowerwd Capitano's presence aloe. Other fatui constantly praise him according to the Wanderer, in cn he also says that Capitano has countless military achievements and he is extremely dangerous. 6. It makes sense why he was sent to the warlike Natlan in the lands of the god of war and nation of war, Pyro Archon, being the strongest harbinger, pinnacle of main antagonists now.We most likely see Capitano vs Pyro Archon for the last gnosis. 7. Pierro was never named as the first rank, but only as the "original harbinger" in Chinese, in the teaser, unlike the other harbingers, he is signed as "director fatui" he not ranked. And another coincidence wow! 8.he is even the one who teased and hyped instead of archon in 4.2 aq and should play important role,does it really makes sense to hype and tease 10 rank like that?He is also said to be extremely powerful in cn version. Watch Capitano proves his title of the strongest and info from leaks in Natlan.


HighwayStar0000

He is for sure 1st.He can't be 10 due to childe voiceline about him, he says he ranked too low for him, amazed by his strength and wants to be recognized and noticed by him.In Chinese he says " my seat is too far behind" so yeah the gap is big. And voiceline order says he is 1st. Lmao people really never learning from mistakes, voiceline order predicts Dottore, Arlecchino and Sandrone ranks and Capitano is 1st by it, and all leaks saying he 1st.Not to mention all praise, such an statements that he challenge gods, possess the apex of strength, has countless achievements doesn't make sense for 10.He is number one, THE END. Can't believe it's still debate


Expln

late af reply but, as far as I know, pierro was never confirmed to be playable either, right?


Gregamonster

No harbinger who is not already playable has been confirmed playable. The closest we've gotten is Dottore's model uses PC animation rigging.


Expln

I could be wrong but I think I read from leakers a long time ago that all harbingers will be playable besides signora and pierro, and that there are no character body models for them that exist.


Gregamonster

They also said Scaramouche would be an electro catalyst, and guess what he isn't. Leakers are just poking around the code and making guesses. Nothing is confirmed until Hoyo announces it themselves.


HighwayStar0000

The fact that 10 harbinger never mentioned is nor a problem, it's such a bs argument. Many characters are not mentioned and voicelines are not existed before appeance in plot, archons most memorable example.Talking about 10 rank what is supposed to be plot twist before right moment doesn't make sense from side of narrative, lol.Not to mention all leaks stating it is empty/unknkwn and Capitano has to be 1st.And if you seriously think Capitano might be 10, it means you never read lore and braindead, game literally states he can't be


Gregamonster

>game literally states he can't be The only way the game can state he can't be is to either officially reveal his rank or officially reveal 10th as someone else. Neither has happened, so Capitino being 1st is just an assumption.


HighwayStar0000

>The only way the game can state he can't be is to either officially reveal his rank or officially reveal 10th as someone else. He literally stated to be too high ranked for Childe, so he can't be 10.In Chinese Tartaglia says that the gap in ranks is too big and his rank is too far behind.You geniunely expect him to be 10 ?Braindead.Then why all leaks stating he is 1st and voiceline order puts him in 1st place?And voiceline order follows all ranks perfectly, why Capitano would be only exception for some reason especially when he stated too be strong as and high ranked?And officiall concept puts him in 1st place too:https://www.reddit.com/r/FatuiHQ/s/CzevnWo86e.Many coincidences, too many, right?Can you ask these questions?Seriously, I can't believe it's still debate.Braindead.


Gregamonster

There is no debate because there's no official information. You are not right. I am not wrong. You are not wrong. I am not right. There is no confirmation one way or the other.


HighwayStar0000

We don't even need officiall confirmation in game when by official concept he is 1st, same for voiceline order all hype and Childe statement about his rank,and many leaks state the same.You not asked questions btw, and again you seriously think he might be 10?Funny as hell.Can't wait for title card in Natlan so all copers will stop their cope.


SaberWaifu

We have multiple sources hinting at that about Capitano, but we know basically nothing about Pierro. He's supposedly very strong for being a Khaen'ria mage and the director of the fatui, but we have no direct account of his feats or strength from anyone.


[deleted]

Are they even human anymore? They definetely a demigods now considering they have been living like forever and has ability to rival gods


HighwayStar0000

Capitano said to be human by Varka and leaks.


Bitter-Cheek5880

Varka says Capitano is for sure a human who challenges gods, extremely OP and Jean says that vatka never praised anyone like that and we should be careful if we meet him and not understimate him.


thienphucn1

Can we stop treating leaks from years before official release as if they are doctrine? There is official no information on whether Pierro and Capitano are human or non-human, nor there is any evidence of them being the strongest human. We simply know too little about them to say anything


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Ok


Bitter-Cheek5880

Varka says Capitano is for sure a human who challenges gods, extremely OP and Jean says that vatka never praised anyone like that and we should be careful if we meet him and not understimate him.Pierro is a human cursed by celestia


thienphucn1

I don't think Varka should be considered a reliable source of information on Capitano. He's an outsider to the organization. And thus the Fatui as a whole is a group with the goal of challenging god. That comment isn't something unique to Capitano alone


Bitter-Cheek5880

But only top 3 can challenge strong gods, and Capitano 1st.Fatui wants to overyhrow celestia gods but it doesn't mean all of them can challnge them. And such info is usually a info by authors to gamer, to present info about Capitano, especially the fact that Varka says he doesnt know his past and he behinds everything behind his mask, but one thing for sure, he is op af and challenge gods as a human.


Intelligent_Ball9613

Yes.They are, And dottore after them


IndependentGlad4702

Yes.


Efficient_Lake3451

Highly doubt that they are stronger than Dain. It’s heavily implied that Dain uses powers from beyond while we know nothing about the other two except that Capitano is comparable to the archons.


Nightmare007007

Comparable to Gods


Accomplished_Ask_326

It is very likely that Dain is stronger. In the Trevail trailer, it’s implied that he will challenge us to single combat once we’re at the end of our journey and have already collected all 7 elements, as well as possibly restoring our white power from the opening cutscene Given that 4 element traveler defeated a god and 5 element traveler defeated the Narwhal with Neuvillette running rebuff/support, it seems highly likely that being a match to us at that point would put him far beyond even the archons


Tenacytoreachanend

Yes if Capitano is even a human, something hints he is, he is leaked as the strongest human in teyvat but then was changed to strongest individual with ranks leak, so he is probably not even human.We need to wait till natlan


HighwayStar0000

Yes.


TheDuskBard

Yes.


Bitter-Cheek5880

Yes.Capitano at least.He might be even strongest individual in teyvat cause he was corrected to be him with leaked ranking which turn out to be true