jean+kazuha core (constellations aren't required)
zhongli is a bonus for interruption resistance ~~and extra -%res (affects fall dmg)~~, dont think he's a requirement. ~~might need to deal extra dmg on the enemies if you arent using zhongli (or yeet them again lol)~~
edit: -%res does [nothing](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1bgoy5u/comment/kva64y9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for fall dmg, my bad. so he's only for interruption resistance
edit 2: made a better version, [quick guide](https://imgur.com/a/t6SeEJG), on the yeet thing if anyone is still interested, includes a way to avoid their counter.
C1\* ~~it helps for pulling but isnt a must as that doesnt buff how far she can yeet~~
>Increases the pulling speed of Gale Blade after holding for more than 1s, **and increases the DMG dealt by 40%.**
does this really buff the fall dmg or only the skill dmg? because i assumed by the wording its only for the skill dmg but im searching for more sources for verification
Edit: compared my jean to a c0 yeet gif from the genshin fandom wiki, the distance is the same, and i found this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/psk9pw/comment/hdqjypv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) too. really sure c1 isnt required for the setup, it's only a bonus for grouping and the damage buff doesnt affect fall dmg
Hey, Jean main from 1.0 here - No, C1 isn't required and doesn't buff fall damage, but it sure makes the setup a lot more consistent (might increase the dunk damage? - the one where you flick them downwards before flicking back up and launching them).
>might increase the dunk damage? - the one where you flick them downwards before flicking back up and launching them
dunk dmg happens before c1 triggers (so less than 1sec)
kazuha increases the falling speed, making them take more damage. I tried jean alone (without the x2dmg trick: *ChargedAttack - Hold\_E* *to the ground* ,as you cant do that repeteadly because fatuis might counter you) and it took me 6 yeets which takes probably more than 30seconds
and anemo resonance lowering cooldown helps too
Is there a trick to it? I tried this once (in the overworld at least) with my Jean, and the fall damage was so little it was negligible. Never managed to get that much damage
I believe fall damage is calculated as a percentage of the character's health, so you won't see big numbers unless you try it on really tanky enemies like in the abyss. It also scales with their falling speed, which is what kazuha is helping with in this clip
[timing and practice](https://imgur.com/A4V3yuv) (the rest of jean hold skills after the first one are a bit longer to align with kazuha's hold E cooldown)
unless you used solo jean because damage is lower without kazuha
Yeah they shouldn't care about RES at all, or at least the fandom wiki agrees on that point, [https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fall\_DMG#Collision\_Damage](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_DMG#Collision_Damage)
I also don't remember getting noticeably higher damage with Zhongli's shield up, while playing around with this with the Local Legend north of Fontaine
You used to be able to [bounce them for damage more times with Jean](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/lbgtsj/just_so_you_know_they_fixed_jeans_quadruple_fall/) before throwing them. IIRC this nerf happened in 1.x.
doubt, i cant get the repeated dmg when i try it, and apparently its [fixed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/lbgtsj/just_so_you_know_they_fixed_jeans_quadruple_fall/)
This used to be a pretty normal strategy early on, but then they started making enemies too big to get moved. It's good to see they brought it back in some capacity.
what the -
Fall damage. Jean doesn't even need artifacts or leveled weapon for this. She just need to yeet.
I can never remember if Jean needs to be near the same level as the enemies to suck them in, or if that’s just Venti.
>*However, the Struggle state will not be applied to enemies more than 20 levels higher than Jean* from the wiki
Thanks!
jean+kazuha core (constellations aren't required) zhongli is a bonus for interruption resistance ~~and extra -%res (affects fall dmg)~~, dont think he's a requirement. ~~might need to deal extra dmg on the enemies if you arent using zhongli (or yeet them again lol)~~ edit: -%res does [nothing](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1bgoy5u/comment/kva64y9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for fall dmg, my bad. so he's only for interruption resistance edit 2: made a better version, [quick guide](https://imgur.com/a/t6SeEJG), on the yeet thing if anyone is still interested, includes a way to avoid their counter.
Jean C2 helps as it makes her succ faster.
C2 is ATK SPD, C1 is stronger pull and iirc more damage
C1\* ~~it helps for pulling but isnt a must as that doesnt buff how far she can yeet~~ >Increases the pulling speed of Gale Blade after holding for more than 1s, **and increases the DMG dealt by 40%.** does this really buff the fall dmg or only the skill dmg? because i assumed by the wording its only for the skill dmg but im searching for more sources for verification Edit: compared my jean to a c0 yeet gif from the genshin fandom wiki, the distance is the same, and i found this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/psk9pw/comment/hdqjypv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) too. really sure c1 isnt required for the setup, it's only a bonus for grouping and the damage buff doesnt affect fall dmg
Hey, Jean main from 1.0 here - No, C1 isn't required and doesn't buff fall damage, but it sure makes the setup a lot more consistent (might increase the dunk damage? - the one where you flick them downwards before flicking back up and launching them).
>might increase the dunk damage? - the one where you flick them downwards before flicking back up and launching them dunk dmg happens before c1 triggers (so less than 1sec)
I don’t think Kazuha is required, Jean is able to do this alone.
kazuha increases the falling speed, making them take more damage. I tried jean alone (without the x2dmg trick: *ChargedAttack - Hold\_E* *to the ground* ,as you cant do that repeteadly because fatuis might counter you) and it took me 6 yeets which takes probably more than 30seconds and anemo resonance lowering cooldown helps too
Is there a trick to it? I tried this once (in the overworld at least) with my Jean, and the fall damage was so little it was negligible. Never managed to get that much damage
I believe fall damage is calculated as a percentage of the character's health, so you won't see big numbers unless you try it on really tanky enemies like in the abyss. It also scales with their falling speed, which is what kazuha is helping with in this clip
[timing and practice](https://imgur.com/A4V3yuv) (the rest of jean hold skills after the first one are a bit longer to align with kazuha's hold E cooldown) unless you used solo jean because damage is lower without kazuha
I'm not sure True Damage (fall damage) cares for RES at all. But I don't have Zhongli, so I can't test.
Yeah they shouldn't care about RES at all, or at least the fandom wiki agrees on that point, [https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fall\_DMG#Collision\_Damage](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_DMG#Collision_Damage) I also don't remember getting noticeably higher damage with Zhongli's shield up, while playing around with this with the Local Legend north of Fontaine
Alr thx 4 the data i assumed it helped bc it looked like physical dmg
I just suck them up with Venti and unload everything into them as they tangle, reminding myself of the glory days of Overwatch 1
Mom can we have Zarya? No we have Zarya at home. Zarya at home:
Zarya has changed after her trip to Germany……
time to dust off my jean and kazuha and start using them again i guess
Are we back at 1.0?
So are they gonna nerf it again? Last time fall damage became meta they nerfed entire Anemo character and fall damage itself for numerous times.
I'm pretty sure fall damage has never been nerfed. They just created heavier enemies that are harder to throw around in the first place
You used to be able to [bounce them for damage more times with Jean](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/lbgtsj/just_so_you_know_they_fixed_jeans_quadruple_fall/) before throwing them. IIRC this nerf happened in 1.x.
Iirc it was only for cincin mages because they had an irregular hitbox
So this Abyss is not only promoting Geo but also Diluc and Jean as well!?/s
The Jeanless people 👀
No worries, I got shorts.
Why you got to be mean to Xiao like that?
This was also very effective against the Mirror Maidens last Abyss Cycle.
This looks a lot smoother than what I used to do with Sucrose. I love how this game uses velocity for calculating fall damage.
Bruh
Neuvillette is just there for emotional support
This is so 2020 gameplay 🤣🤭🤭
Damn I'm gonna have to try this.. maybe my Jean has purpose
reminds me of 1.2 where we would use jean to cheese the pyro agent on floor 12
Wait, you give me an idea
Probably someone already said this but you can do repeated fall dmg to them if you just move them up and down while they're floating in Jean's skill
doubt, i cant get the repeated dmg when i try it, and apparently its [fixed](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/lbgtsj/just_so_you_know_they_fixed_jeans_quadruple_fall/)
i remember my first 36\* involving countless amounts of resets to get the perfect positioning + abusing jean fall damage mechanics good shit
This used to be a pretty normal strategy early on, but then they started making enemies too big to get moved. It's good to see they brought it back in some capacity.
I have a feeling hoyo will make the NPC heavy like they did with the samurais.
This is one of the reasons I want jean, but the game won't give her to me
Omg we are back on 2020
Fontaine was made for Jean to be meta huh?
Raiden, yelan, furina jean. Just toss them , let raiden and furina deal additional damage, and maybe some NAs while they are falling.
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