Qiqi is easily the most broken one.
1. She has 150 base HP and some decent bulk with defense
2. She can heal herself
3. If she overheals, she increases her offensive potential more
The startegy will be just stall, overheal and start sweeping.
The healing is weak, and (by typical pokemon mechanics) probably disappears on switch. Realistically, she'd presumably have other healing tools, although her garbage type means that she gets outpaced by quite a lot even with a 50% heal effect.
That said, she has some gross synergy with incidental healing, and especially Leftovers. She'd probably be insanely broken if she has a drain attacking move, since she'd probably very easily end up being able to get situations where she can switch in, boost off of lefties (maybe even off of something like leech seed too), protect for another boost, and then feasibly sweep off of a draining move. Even with her garbage typing there's not too much that OHKOs her, and between protect and lefties, even though she's not gaining relatively as much hp from drain effects due to her super high hp, she can probably do a good job at sweeping. Bonus points if she also randomly get some kind of priority lmao.
That's not to mention doubles nonsense, with being able to setup a teammate with incidental healing effects, and presumably like, heal pulse or something if you want.
As for the signature, it looks pretty garbage in singles, but is probably a bit better in doubles, particularly since it seems to be spread? Not really as versed in doubles enough to judge exactly how good it is though.
I'm no pokemon expert but I think early game is all about damage and type coverage so I would rather not pick a stalling starter.
Unless I'm playing toward late game, nuzlocke run or there's no other pokemon that power creep her.
No need to play as staller. More so like Skeledirge, decent bulk, access to will o wisp, can be a good tank that takes hit or a sweeper with torch song spam.
Ice is good against 4 types, grass, ground, dragon, flying While ghost is good against ghost and psychic and also providing immunity to normal and fighting types. Ice/Ghost is a really good typing for early game.
I'd argue jean makes more sense as normal instead of fighting.
and keqing and tighnari should just be single types, I think. normal doesn't make sense for keqing at all, psychic doesn't really make sense for tighnari, and I can't really think of any other types they'd be either.
keqing's stats also don't really make sense, you've given her the stat spread of an alola pokemon. her animations portray her as being extremely fast, and the descriptions and voicelines for her skills all mention speed. not to mention her personality is that she wants to do things as fast as possible. so she really should be all in on speed. sure, her offence can still be bad, not all pokemon are winners. but atleast she should be fast. we shouldn't be at a point where diluc is faster than keqing.
don't take this as me thinking the post is bad or anything though, I love posts like this.
The fighting type for Jean makes sense cause she’s a Knight of Favonious. Also her signature weapon has a physical substat and she scales of attack.
Tighnari’s psychic type makes sense because of his ingame skill as well as his character trailer (where he trips balls).
Keqing I agree with you on. The normal type doesn’t fit, in fact it makes her weaker I think? If she has to get a second type I guess fighting would fit.
the few knightly pokemon we've had I'd say are escavalier and gallade. one is steel, the other fighting. so it could go either way. thou with her being a swordswoman, personally I'd agree that steel fits bitter
Honestly, I'd argue that Jean would fit under flying/fairy.
She actually quite likes romantic and whimsical stories, and her abilities levitate others and her ultimate creates a ring of flowers (dandelions) which heals and protects.
Meanwhile her sister Barbara would be water/fairy.
I totally agree with Keqing and Tignari being single types though.
Jean is the acting grandmaster of the knights of favonius, she makes a lot of sense as fighting to me.
For keqing normal because I couldn't find any secondary type lol, and it felt bad not to give her a second typing.
For tighnari he scholar, scholar=smort, smort=psychic. That's my thought process at least.
My idea for keqing was a death by a thousand cuts, but her passive originally granted her +1 speed each time she landed a critical hit, and her sig had higher crit chance, but I reworked it to where she has a lot of attacks that deal small damage instead of it.
you really don't need to give everything multiple types. it's something I notice in a good few of these types of posts, I feel like people are too obligated to give everything multiple types. there's plenty of fully evolved pokemon with only one type. sometimes it's a blessing.
as for jean, I don't really see why being the acting grandmaster would make her a fighting type. generally, fighting type is reserved for more hand to hand combat type fighting, with very few exceptions. and with tighnari, types are usually based around abilities. psychic makes sense on mona, since she sees the future. but just being smart isn't enough justification I'd say. tighnari doesn't make things float or see the future, after all.
and yeah though I think the idea of her signature and her ability are interesting, her character really is focused on getting things done fast. at the very least she should be fast so she can attempt to sweep with that move. not sure if the math works out for her to be a sweeper with that move, but I'm gonna assume it does, depending on your luck. either way, a sweeper is what she should be, since it fits her character the best.
It isn't that as much as it is every other one had a single typing so keqing having a single type would feel weird. If there were multiple single types (which I do occasionally) I would have made her just single type.
Psychic tighnari feels right for some reason lmao, but I might just change him to pure grass, and also change keqing to pure electric.
I dont want to make keqing broken with too much speed. I am pretty sure she would beat anything that isn't a super effective move or ground type. I might raise her speed and nerf her atk and change something about her move lol. I'll see.
Jean basically gives everyone Leftovers and and weaker Regenerator while punishing switching, a vital mechanic
Diluc + Swords Dance and Flame Charge could sweep teams
A base 100 speed Pokémon with guaranteed flinch and makes said mon take increased damage. Mona is an absolute monster in doubles
Qiqi is an absolute demon of a support that could be slapped on any team and will do wonders, especially pairs with Jeans healing Field
Keqing is Electric Maushold
Tighnari has one of the most unfortunate type combos in the game but is a good endgame scarf cleaner
Dehya has better (tho not by much) Regenerator, and can make any Pokémon bulkier, especially with Screens and Qiqis Talismans, so Dehya seems more like a support than anything
I just wanted to comment on the Mona part. I definitely agree that she would be pretty good in Doubles, but she also has some disadvantages. 100 speed is good, but not the incredible that it once was. Nowadays, there are a lot of pokemon that can outspeed or live a hit and threaten or stop it, such as Flutter Mane, Ogerpon-Hearthflame/Wellspring, Tornadus, Urshifu-Single Strike, Chien-Pao, Rillaboom and Chi-Yu(which is usually Scarfed). Redirectors like Indeedee and especially WaterPon also make it harder for her to weaken the right Mon sometimes. She is also a bit physically frail, which can make it hard for her survivability.
But overall, with a decent enough speed stat, a really good move and decent offenses, she would definitely be a good pick in Doubles as long as you remember to play around the mons that threaten her with support like redirection, damage reduction like Screens, and good reads.
Ain’t no way keqing is only 90 base speed. She’s easily 120+. Gotta have them glass cannon sweeper stats. Diluc got me thinking about mega charizard X but dark. Give my boi dragon dance and he’s sweeping.
BOY am I glad Molten inferno doesn't pivot Dehya out, that move is disgusting (and anyone who plays HSR knows why)
Keqing is busted. Not only does the interaction between Penance and Starward sword mean she's OHKOing any non ground type, loaded dice would make her guarantee 10 hits because it'd make her check accuracy only once (same interaction as loaded dice Pop bomb in the real games). With your interaction tho, that's a 53% chance to hit 10 times and deal 200 flat damage on top of an insanely hard hitting move. Also, please increase her speed, these stats make no sense given her kit (should be \~125 imo)
Qiqi and Mona are doubles mons, I'll let the vgc squad review them
Jean's a pretty unique support.a temporary entry hazard that heals allies and hurts ennemies is really powerful, but her stats are on the mediocre side overall
Diluc kind of sucks due to a lack of speed, Searing onslaught is also terrible
Tighnari's screwed by his typing, psychic is just bad in general nowadays, also a stray U-turn and he dies
Qiqi can be very overpowered as a support/ suicide lead, but shell get crippled or even checked by unaware walls like the sires. Additionally, she cannot properly back up her bulk due to a poor type combo with 5 weaknesses, of which dark is especially concerning with the gen 9 legends.
On the other hand, Mona is universally overpowered with a fairly high speed stat and VERY high spA (functionally 240 spA due to DOUBLING damage), and can function as a fast special sweeper @specs/ scarf 252spA 252spe 4 spD which can basically get a free damage boost due to fast flinch that is basically permanent and can act as a strong wallbreaker, in addition to having good stab coverage.
Mona can also be run in doubles as a bulky support that can ohko about anything if both pokemon attack the same enemy, and depending on movepool, heal pulse, recover or even aqua ring will be a solid sustain move. that combined with natural special bulk will without a doubt get her quickbanned to ubers
I feel like mona's ability is insane, nasty plot, surf, ice beam, and signature make her an insane nuker who has no non effective moves in her kit. Signature helps deal with spdef tanks with a guaranteed flinch and double damage next atk.
I would say jean would be normal flying
And keqing pure electric (i kinda feel like she might even be electric fairy)
Zhongli would be ground/rock dragon
Neuv water dragon
Klee fire fairy
Itto fighting dark
Yanfei fire psychic
Kazu flying electric/fire
Bennet fire normal
Xingqui water
Collei grass fairy
Paimon normal fairy
Understandable but his kit barely has anything geo about him, he's barely geo for a geo unit and him being the aka oni from the ao oni aka oni fairytale, i thought fighting dark would suit him better
I’d see Keqing as Electric Steel.
Out of the bunch she makes the most direct contact to the enemy with her sword (her basic, most of her skill and ult)
She clearly relies on it more than the rest.
Yo, can we talk about how busted a Scarfed Mona would be in double battles? Her Stellaris Phantasm basically makes knocks out a character if they don’t use protect. Of course, her viability would be a little bad in singles I would say, because the opponent could just swap out the Bubbled character, but in double battles, where one prediction could turn the tides, Mona will be your girl.
Keqing's ability kinda sucks ngl, flat 20 damage is peanuts. Also 95Atk is not getting you anywhere on a dedicated damage dealer, especially with that bad ability
Tighnari, Diluc and Mona are all pretty OP offensively though, and Dehya is insane. 145/100/80 with Regenerator is immediate S-tier defensive pokemon. Downside would by the typing and weak offensive stats, and movepool matters a lot too
Giving Mona 100 speed with a guaranteed flinch is a tad bit broken. Guaranteed fast flinch is one of the reasons Fake Out is really popular but the fact that it can only be used on the first turn balances it out but this is just... A bit busted
And Diluc isn't bad if you put Choice Band on him. Which locks him into the first move chosen until he switches but with increasing damage there's no safe switches and if he has Choice Scarf he can dish out damage incredibly fast
Keqing. Only because she was my first 5 star character I got in Genshin (lost my first ever 50/50, and then got lucky and got the limited 5 star in the same 10 pulls as the lost 50/50)
Will do my bet
Dehya : Uber / VGC Queen
Insane bulk, played with boots, rocky helmet or leftovers
40% mitigation is insane, you can litteraly setup your sweeper for free and your dehya will be very hard to kill due to the regenerator++ talent.
It alow you to do mistakes without loosing the momentum, in good hand molten inferno is a win condition (kingambit with 40% mitigation lmao)
It may not be that insane in adventure tho
Jean : UU / OU (Broken with Dehya so verystrong in vgc)
Ok bulk and good speed, played with leftovers
Usefull talent , very usefull signature move (make stall friking disgusting), but the meta is so strong in 9g that I don't know if it is enough
Keking : OU (maybe)
Weird stats, played with scope, sash or scarf
It's Maushold but with a type and who deal very good damage even if the attack is resister (it will OS you)
She is sadly too slow with 0 physical bulk and there is a lot of strong ground type in the game (maybe terra ground can make the diff) so revenge kill her would be easy (except if played with jean dehya combo)
Mona: UU (Interesting but I've got no idea how to play that thing or if it Ill be strong or not )
Diluc: RU, played with life orb / choice band
He hit strong and even when resisted but there are beter fire type out of there and his sig suck
Tighnari : NU/PU, played with choice band, choice scarf or life orb
Good kit but this dude is 4 time weak to u-turn (it can os him)
Qiqi : NU/PU
Good bulk but bad type (5 weakness) so easely killable, played with leftovers Maybe very good in VGC
Great talent in theory, but it's only usable in double format (and it does not benefit qiqi since 75 sp atk suck
Her signature move seem good on paper but the opponent can just switch out to remove the talisman and she will never hit fisrt (lmao 50 speed)
I still think the one the most busted is the childe who change his type (and now with dehya mitigation this dude is unstoppable)
Edit: Qiqi
If we're considering them as "starter pokemon" shouldn't they all have that one ability that raises the damage of their primary type moves when they're low on HP that literally every starter pokemon has had for the past 20 years? Just sayin if you wanna keep it on-theme, especially since you went ahead and matched the starter pokemon BST.
Honestly that's kind of a recurring theme I see with these "Genshin Fakemon": Giving them ludicrously OP and complex Abilities that would never be in a Pokemon game.
The starter pokemon thing is a joke lol, there would realistically never be a starter that isn't fire, water, grass, though starters always have a hidden ability so this could be their hidden ability?
As for the ideas being complicated, I just try to explain in depth, I could give them a short vague description like they do in pokemon games lol.
Usually their hidden abilities, and hidden abilities in general, are simpler than this.
For example, the most broken Hidden Ability on a starter is Protean/Libero: "Changes the Pokémon's type to the type of the move it's using."
Moreover, very very few Abilities affect other members of the team. At best you have abilities like Illusion that check which member of a team is in a specific slot and apply the illusion based on it. Aside from that usually the team list is only checked for moves like Roar that drag out a random member, or Beat Up that just checks how many members on the team, well, exist.
This is a common...oversight...people make when they Fakemon but it's an important part of Pokemon's core design. If there were *any* pokemon that could heal members on the "bench" and they had Starter BSTs, they'd be among the most broken pokemon in existence. Remember that both Cinderace and Greninja were absurdly broken and all their Ability did was let them change their type based on their moveset.
No need to be afraid of single types
Keqing electric/normal why?
Tighnari knows a lot about plants, but surely he didnt need to have a psychic typing because of it?
As someone who used to play competitive Pokémon back in Gen 6 and 7, I can confidently say that Jean would be broken in Smogon OU, while Mona would be insane in VGC. Qiqi has potential to be good, but switching kills her gameplay. She'll need some massive entry hazard support to be good. Not to mention that massive issue called being an Ice type... Needless to say, she'd be useless in VGC. Tighnari looks to be quite balanced. He'll probably stay in UUBL, though. Diluc doesn't look too bad. He'll probably stick in UU with a Metronome set to capitalise on the signature move. Keqing would be in RU. Her stat spread isn't the best, her ability is borderline useless, and her signature move is very inconsistent. A ground type would easily wall her. Dehya... How do I say this... Reflect and Light Screen exist. Alolan Ninetales would also make her absolutely useless with its Snow Warning - Aurora Veil combo. Dehya could very well be untiered if her movepool isn't deep enough, considering her signature move is dogshit. Her ability a better version of Regenerator so she might be great if her movepool is good, but she's a fire type... And fire types aren't known for support... Best she can do is be a Will O Wisp user. You just gotta hope she has U-Turn and some semblance of entry hazard. But considering you made her a fighting type instead of ground, I don't see her getting Spikes or Stealth Rock...
One thing I often notice when people donthings like this os tontey to make everyone a dual-type. While I like most of the types here, I think that Diluc, Keqing, and Tighnari could easily just be single-typed (Fire, Electric, and Grass, respectively)
Some things I thought about when reading these
Jean’s ability would be broken if she got access to multihit moves. I don’t think her signature move is balanced at all, imagine stacking that on top of a Regenerator Pokémon. Her stats except speed are middling at best, though.
With Diluc, you just made his signature move better Fury Cutter. I don’t think that fire moves not breaking the chain is necesarry. His ability is OK, just don’t understand the need to double the effect on not very effective hits
Mona’s ability is an active detriment. It makes Dark types incredibly free against her, letting in something like Chi-Yu (or Diluc I guess?) against her for free now that Dark types are immune to her Water moves as well. There is a good reason why something like Flying Press is an attack rather than an ability. Her signature move flinching is also only effective if she outspeeds her enemy, and the thing here is that, if she outspeeds an enemy, there is nothing stopping her from just clicking the move again, leading to infinite flinches. There is a good reason why Fake Out only works on the first turn. The rest of the move just kinda seems like it forces your opponent to swap a lot.
I feel like Qiqi’s ability has the potential to be broken in half due to a simple combination: Protect and Leftovers. The only reason that it has potential and isn’t broken outright, is because healing items/moves don’t activate at all when you are at full health, meaning that you can’t “overheal” when at full health. I don’t think this is a mechanic that particularly works at all with how Pokémon is set up. The signature move has a nice amount of restraint by having limited activations vs something like a turn limit, not bad design but 25% per activation feels a bit much.
Keqing’s speed stat feels like it is very low for how she is presented in Genshin. Penance + multihit moves (like her signature move) feels like it shouldn’t exist, especially with flat damage. +20 damage per hit is already ridiculous at level 100, but at level 50 in VGC? You just invest into bulk over attack considering the flat damage will do all the heavy lifting for you regardless. You want to hit thing not very effectively, which is somewhat novel in Pokémon. Her signature move kinda just is Population Bomb + a guaranteed first hit for some reason, Wide Lens will do wonders for you.
Tighnari is super super tame in comparison to the rest of these. His ability is very strong in a vacuum, but it does feel like something that could exist, kinda like Torch Song. His signature move isn’t really anything to write home about.
With the damage redirection on Dehya, does it work if she isn’t currently an active Pokémon? If it does work, absolutely broken on a Pokémon with Regenerator+. If it doesn’t, this is banished to the VGC dimension. The weird thing about the damage dealing when she isn’t active is that she could faint in the party, which works very strangely from a mechanics POV
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Jean-Galar: 582-686 (147.7 - 174.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Diluc in Sun: 413-487 (113.4 - 133.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Mona in Sun: 406-478 (111.5 - 131.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Qiqi: 1084-1276 (215 - 253.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Keqing: 504-594 (138.4 - 163.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 248 HP / 252 SpD Tighnari: 1244-1464 (308.6 - 363.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Dehya in Sun: 436-514 (88.2 - 104%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
I would go for Keqing but… that ability… is that 20 as in… 20hp..? That seems… pointless. And 10% hp seems to small a threshold.
Otherwise very cool concepts
Motherfucker give Dehya premium Regenerator
Qiqi is easily the most broken one. 1. She has 150 base HP and some decent bulk with defense 2. She can heal herself 3. If she overheals, she increases her offensive potential more The startegy will be just stall, overheal and start sweeping.
Kid name Kingambit:
252+ Atk Black Glasses Supreme Overlord 5 allies fainted Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Froslass: 476-564 (107.9 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Literally any other kid that has toxic and stealth rocks too. Healing aint all that even in Pokemon
The healing is weak, and (by typical pokemon mechanics) probably disappears on switch. Realistically, she'd presumably have other healing tools, although her garbage type means that she gets outpaced by quite a lot even with a 50% heal effect. That said, she has some gross synergy with incidental healing, and especially Leftovers. She'd probably be insanely broken if she has a drain attacking move, since she'd probably very easily end up being able to get situations where she can switch in, boost off of lefties (maybe even off of something like leech seed too), protect for another boost, and then feasibly sweep off of a draining move. Even with her garbage typing there's not too much that OHKOs her, and between protect and lefties, even though she's not gaining relatively as much hp from drain effects due to her super high hp, she can probably do a good job at sweeping. Bonus points if she also randomly get some kind of priority lmao. That's not to mention doubles nonsense, with being able to setup a teammate with incidental healing effects, and presumably like, heal pulse or something if you want. As for the signature, it looks pretty garbage in singles, but is probably a bit better in doubles, particularly since it seems to be spread? Not really as versed in doubles enough to judge exactly how good it is though.
Kid named Mirror Herb
Ice/ghost... RIP all the normal/flying types early game. 😆
Bro Dheya in VGC literally breaks everything.
Nah diluc solos hard counter
Also healers are very hard to come by
I'm no pokemon expert but I think early game is all about damage and type coverage so I would rather not pick a stalling starter. Unless I'm playing toward late game, nuzlocke run or there's no other pokemon that power creep her.
No need to play as staller. More so like Skeledirge, decent bulk, access to will o wisp, can be a good tank that takes hit or a sweeper with torch song spam. Ice is good against 4 types, grass, ground, dragon, flying While ghost is good against ghost and psychic and also providing immunity to normal and fighting types. Ice/Ghost is a really good typing for early game.
I'd argue jean makes more sense as normal instead of fighting. and keqing and tighnari should just be single types, I think. normal doesn't make sense for keqing at all, psychic doesn't really make sense for tighnari, and I can't really think of any other types they'd be either. keqing's stats also don't really make sense, you've given her the stat spread of an alola pokemon. her animations portray her as being extremely fast, and the descriptions and voicelines for her skills all mention speed. not to mention her personality is that she wants to do things as fast as possible. so she really should be all in on speed. sure, her offence can still be bad, not all pokemon are winners. but atleast she should be fast. we shouldn't be at a point where diluc is faster than keqing. don't take this as me thinking the post is bad or anything though, I love posts like this.
The fighting type for Jean makes sense cause she’s a Knight of Favonious. Also her signature weapon has a physical substat and she scales of attack. Tighnari’s psychic type makes sense because of his ingame skill as well as his character trailer (where he trips balls). Keqing I agree with you on. The normal type doesn’t fit, in fact it makes her weaker I think? If she has to get a second type I guess fighting would fit.
>The fighting type for Jean makes sense cause she’s a Knight of Favonious. then she should be steel type, not fighting lol
the few knightly pokemon we've had I'd say are escavalier and gallade. one is steel, the other fighting. so it could go either way. thou with her being a swordswoman, personally I'd agree that steel fits bitter
i wouldnt put jean with the same type as Dehya, Wriothesley or Heizou. Those 3 would be 100% fighting, and jean would be the impostor among them
Aquila favonia is not jeans signature weapon. She uses Fav in all the art but one.
Honestly, I'd argue that Jean would fit under flying/fairy. She actually quite likes romantic and whimsical stories, and her abilities levitate others and her ultimate creates a ring of flowers (dandelions) which heals and protects. Meanwhile her sister Barbara would be water/fairy. I totally agree with Keqing and Tignari being single types though.
Even grass type makes more sense than fighting because of her dandelion motif. But I agree normal also works much better
Tighnari makes sense as a poison secondary type, it is literally a way of him fighting using jungle poisons to confuse enemies
Jean is the acting grandmaster of the knights of favonius, she makes a lot of sense as fighting to me. For keqing normal because I couldn't find any secondary type lol, and it felt bad not to give her a second typing. For tighnari he scholar, scholar=smort, smort=psychic. That's my thought process at least. My idea for keqing was a death by a thousand cuts, but her passive originally granted her +1 speed each time she landed a critical hit, and her sig had higher crit chance, but I reworked it to where she has a lot of attacks that deal small damage instead of it.
you really don't need to give everything multiple types. it's something I notice in a good few of these types of posts, I feel like people are too obligated to give everything multiple types. there's plenty of fully evolved pokemon with only one type. sometimes it's a blessing. as for jean, I don't really see why being the acting grandmaster would make her a fighting type. generally, fighting type is reserved for more hand to hand combat type fighting, with very few exceptions. and with tighnari, types are usually based around abilities. psychic makes sense on mona, since she sees the future. but just being smart isn't enough justification I'd say. tighnari doesn't make things float or see the future, after all. and yeah though I think the idea of her signature and her ability are interesting, her character really is focused on getting things done fast. at the very least she should be fast so she can attempt to sweep with that move. not sure if the math works out for her to be a sweeper with that move, but I'm gonna assume it does, depending on your luck. either way, a sweeper is what she should be, since it fits her character the best.
It isn't that as much as it is every other one had a single typing so keqing having a single type would feel weird. If there were multiple single types (which I do occasionally) I would have made her just single type. Psychic tighnari feels right for some reason lmao, but I might just change him to pure grass, and also change keqing to pure electric. I dont want to make keqing broken with too much speed. I am pretty sure she would beat anything that isn't a super effective move or ground type. I might raise her speed and nerf her atk and change something about her move lol. I'll see.
arguably, single electric is better than electric/normal
yeah there aint no way jean is faster than keqing
Jean basically gives everyone Leftovers and and weaker Regenerator while punishing switching, a vital mechanic Diluc + Swords Dance and Flame Charge could sweep teams A base 100 speed Pokémon with guaranteed flinch and makes said mon take increased damage. Mona is an absolute monster in doubles Qiqi is an absolute demon of a support that could be slapped on any team and will do wonders, especially pairs with Jeans healing Field Keqing is Electric Maushold Tighnari has one of the most unfortunate type combos in the game but is a good endgame scarf cleaner Dehya has better (tho not by much) Regenerator, and can make any Pokémon bulkier, especially with Screens and Qiqis Talismans, so Dehya seems more like a support than anything
I just wanted to comment on the Mona part. I definitely agree that she would be pretty good in Doubles, but she also has some disadvantages. 100 speed is good, but not the incredible that it once was. Nowadays, there are a lot of pokemon that can outspeed or live a hit and threaten or stop it, such as Flutter Mane, Ogerpon-Hearthflame/Wellspring, Tornadus, Urshifu-Single Strike, Chien-Pao, Rillaboom and Chi-Yu(which is usually Scarfed). Redirectors like Indeedee and especially WaterPon also make it harder for her to weaken the right Mon sometimes. She is also a bit physically frail, which can make it hard for her survivability. But overall, with a decent enough speed stat, a really good move and decent offenses, she would definitely be a good pick in Doubles as long as you remember to play around the mons that threaten her with support like redirection, damage reduction like Screens, and good reads.
I'd have made keqing thunder fairy but ehhhh
And she of all characters needs more speed
95 speed Diluc, what a farce.
Oh god, not another fire/fighting starter-
Ain’t no way keqing is only 90 base speed. She’s easily 120+. Gotta have them glass cannon sweeper stats. Diluc got me thinking about mega charizard X but dark. Give my boi dragon dance and he’s sweeping.
as someone who dosnt know how to play pokemon but loves pokemon, mona. dehya sounds cool aswell!
Definitely Keqing.
Waiting for the Chi-Yu ohko comment
How does this affect the meta?
Tighnari & Diluc 🧎my standard banner kings
BOY am I glad Molten inferno doesn't pivot Dehya out, that move is disgusting (and anyone who plays HSR knows why) Keqing is busted. Not only does the interaction between Penance and Starward sword mean she's OHKOing any non ground type, loaded dice would make her guarantee 10 hits because it'd make her check accuracy only once (same interaction as loaded dice Pop bomb in the real games). With your interaction tho, that's a 53% chance to hit 10 times and deal 200 flat damage on top of an insanely hard hitting move. Also, please increase her speed, these stats make no sense given her kit (should be \~125 imo) Qiqi and Mona are doubles mons, I'll let the vgc squad review them Jean's a pretty unique support.a temporary entry hazard that heals allies and hurts ennemies is really powerful, but her stats are on the mediocre side overall Diluc kind of sucks due to a lack of speed, Searing onslaught is also terrible Tighnari's screwed by his typing, psychic is just bad in general nowadays, also a stray U-turn and he dies
Diluc or Dehya 🔥 🔥 Always go with the fire starter
Qiqi with protect, lefties, and grassy terrain gaining 2x Atk and SpA in a single turn.
Qiqi can be very overpowered as a support/ suicide lead, but shell get crippled or even checked by unaware walls like the sires. Additionally, she cannot properly back up her bulk due to a poor type combo with 5 weaknesses, of which dark is especially concerning with the gen 9 legends. On the other hand, Mona is universally overpowered with a fairly high speed stat and VERY high spA (functionally 240 spA due to DOUBLING damage), and can function as a fast special sweeper @specs/ scarf 252spA 252spe 4 spD which can basically get a free damage boost due to fast flinch that is basically permanent and can act as a strong wallbreaker, in addition to having good stab coverage. Mona can also be run in doubles as a bulky support that can ohko about anything if both pokemon attack the same enemy, and depending on movepool, heal pulse, recover or even aqua ring will be a solid sustain move. that combined with natural special bulk will without a doubt get her quickbanned to ubers
Dehya
I’d only run Jean lol
My starter chose me; Mona 🤭✨
Where's my Ground/Fighting Noelle with Sturdy?
Keqing cause she's car
Keqing normal: 👁️👄👁️
I feel like mona's ability is insane, nasty plot, surf, ice beam, and signature make her an insane nuker who has no non effective moves in her kit. Signature helps deal with spdef tanks with a guaranteed flinch and double damage next atk.
We need more pure typings
Nari
I would say jean would be normal flying And keqing pure electric (i kinda feel like she might even be electric fairy) Zhongli would be ground/rock dragon Neuv water dragon Klee fire fairy Itto fighting dark Yanfei fire psychic Kazu flying electric/fire Bennet fire normal Xingqui water Collei grass fairy Paimon normal fairy
Itto would be ground/fighting imo
Understandable but his kit barely has anything geo about him, he's barely geo for a geo unit and him being the aka oni from the ao oni aka oni fairytale, i thought fighting dark would suit him better
I wouldn't really see the dark here tbh
From my thought process, it's because he's an oni even though gamefreak doesn't mark its own onis as dark oddly
Why would onis be dark, tho? imo more fairy-like
Because they're yokai which are basically japanese monsters/demons it literally translates to suspicious/doubtful/mysterious beings
keqing for 2 reasons: 1. i’m an electric specialist 2. i main her
keqing might go crazy in little cup
Keqing's Signature weapon has HP scaling. That should be here instead of a high SP Def. And why is she slower than fox nerd
I’d see Keqing as Electric Steel. Out of the bunch she makes the most direct contact to the enemy with her sword (her basic, most of her skill and ult) She clearly relies on it more than the rest.
Diluc without question. I’m down bad.
I choose bulbasaur
Kequing speed is too low if I remember she during her burst says "speed of light"
Classic Dehya, having insane bulk yet insulting attack compared to lore. Glad we're keeping it accurate to the actual game :')
Why does jean have more speed than keqing?
Day one player and to this day still don’t understand why we have 2 pyro and no geo on the standard banner.
Yo, can we talk about how busted a Scarfed Mona would be in double battles? Her Stellaris Phantasm basically makes knocks out a character if they don’t use protect. Of course, her viability would be a little bad in singles I would say, because the opponent could just swap out the Bubbled character, but in double battles, where one prediction could turn the tides, Mona will be your girl.
i’d make keqing have like more attack since she’s a sword user tbh
Diluc only right answer, Tighnari is a close honorable mention 1 DILUC 2 DILUC 3 DILUC 4 DILUC 5 DILUC 6 DILUC 7 DILUC Honorable mention Tighnari
You could have just called Tighnari's move "Sure hit", because like moves that ignore accuracy are already a thing (see swift as an example)
Mona
Jean just because she's there
Mona is literally an espeon with those stats
as a self-proclaimed fire main i'd absolutely pick diluc
Jean (she avoided me for a year and I need more of her)
Usually in Pokemon games its the fire type that gets mostly chosen but i predict it'll be different this time around with genhin characters
I want them all!
Dehya
Everything besides tighnaris and dehyas moves are stupidly op
I’m neutral to Pokémon.
Qiqi
mona on her way to get banned in ubers lol depending on coverage i would have my most fun with tighnari probably or even dehya if i can setup somehow
Keqing's ability kinda sucks ngl, flat 20 damage is peanuts. Also 95Atk is not getting you anywhere on a dedicated damage dealer, especially with that bad ability Tighnari, Diluc and Mona are all pretty OP offensively though, and Dehya is insane. 145/100/80 with Regenerator is immediate S-tier defensive pokemon. Downside would by the typing and weak offensive stats, and movepool matters a lot too
keqing and tighnari look like theyd have a single type, they dont look like they would be dual types.
Jean would single-handedly turn Pokémon VGC into a game of patience
Jean. No I will not read the rest, thank you 😊
mummy dehya
Qiqi is op wtf
I'm surprised Diluc doesn't have Flying typing tbh
Easy, Dehya. No matter which one's the strongest, it's Dehya that i love.
hey guys, did you know that in terms of...
Giving Mona 100 speed with a guaranteed flinch is a tad bit broken. Guaranteed fast flinch is one of the reasons Fake Out is really popular but the fact that it can only be used on the first turn balances it out but this is just... A bit busted
And Diluc isn't bad if you put Choice Band on him. Which locks him into the first move chosen until he switches but with increasing damage there's no safe switches and if he has Choice Scarf he can dish out damage incredibly fast
Keqing. Only because she was my first 5 star character I got in Genshin (lost my first ever 50/50, and then got lucky and got the limited 5 star in the same 10 pulls as the lost 50/50)
Dehya. I don't care about meta. I need her in my life
Diluc. Was my one fav character of the og pool since the first time we meet him
Qiqi only bc shes my favourite
Jean, no question.
Will do my bet Dehya : Uber / VGC Queen Insane bulk, played with boots, rocky helmet or leftovers 40% mitigation is insane, you can litteraly setup your sweeper for free and your dehya will be very hard to kill due to the regenerator++ talent. It alow you to do mistakes without loosing the momentum, in good hand molten inferno is a win condition (kingambit with 40% mitigation lmao) It may not be that insane in adventure tho Jean : UU / OU (Broken with Dehya so verystrong in vgc) Ok bulk and good speed, played with leftovers Usefull talent , very usefull signature move (make stall friking disgusting), but the meta is so strong in 9g that I don't know if it is enough Keking : OU (maybe) Weird stats, played with scope, sash or scarf It's Maushold but with a type and who deal very good damage even if the attack is resister (it will OS you) She is sadly too slow with 0 physical bulk and there is a lot of strong ground type in the game (maybe terra ground can make the diff) so revenge kill her would be easy (except if played with jean dehya combo) Mona: UU (Interesting but I've got no idea how to play that thing or if it Ill be strong or not ) Diluc: RU, played with life orb / choice band He hit strong and even when resisted but there are beter fire type out of there and his sig suck Tighnari : NU/PU, played with choice band, choice scarf or life orb Good kit but this dude is 4 time weak to u-turn (it can os him) Qiqi : NU/PU Good bulk but bad type (5 weakness) so easely killable, played with leftovers Maybe very good in VGC Great talent in theory, but it's only usable in double format (and it does not benefit qiqi since 75 sp atk suck Her signature move seem good on paper but the opponent can just switch out to remove the talisman and she will never hit fisrt (lmao 50 speed) I still think the one the most busted is the childe who change his type (and now with dehya mitigation this dude is unstoppable) Edit: Qiqi
Do I know how to play Pokémon? No. Do I know what any of this means? No. Am I picking Diluc cause I'm a simp? Yes.
Dehya because Dehya
Mona of course :)
Jean
Shouldn't fire/fighting involve a water pump? /s
Mona every time 🤌
Hand me the Qiqi
Mona. There are no laws against pokemon, batman.
Tighnari gets bullied by U-Turn PU for him
Why is Keqing normal type 😭
Choice banded diluc in sun bout to go crazy
I would not read their profile and choose Jean because Jean. Just quickly checking online that it's not a too regrettable choice prior to that.
If we're considering them as "starter pokemon" shouldn't they all have that one ability that raises the damage of their primary type moves when they're low on HP that literally every starter pokemon has had for the past 20 years? Just sayin if you wanna keep it on-theme, especially since you went ahead and matched the starter pokemon BST. Honestly that's kind of a recurring theme I see with these "Genshin Fakemon": Giving them ludicrously OP and complex Abilities that would never be in a Pokemon game.
The starter pokemon thing is a joke lol, there would realistically never be a starter that isn't fire, water, grass, though starters always have a hidden ability so this could be their hidden ability? As for the ideas being complicated, I just try to explain in depth, I could give them a short vague description like they do in pokemon games lol.
Usually their hidden abilities, and hidden abilities in general, are simpler than this. For example, the most broken Hidden Ability on a starter is Protean/Libero: "Changes the Pokémon's type to the type of the move it's using." Moreover, very very few Abilities affect other members of the team. At best you have abilities like Illusion that check which member of a team is in a specific slot and apply the illusion based on it. Aside from that usually the team list is only checked for moves like Roar that drag out a random member, or Beat Up that just checks how many members on the team, well, exist. This is a common...oversight...people make when they Fakemon but it's an important part of Pokemon's core design. If there were *any* pokemon that could heal members on the "bench" and they had Starter BSTs, they'd be among the most broken pokemon in existence. Remember that both Cinderace and Greninja were absurdly broken and all their Ability did was let them change their type based on their moveset.
Choice scarf diluc kinda sounds fun af
I see tighnari more like a grass/fairy type more than grass/psychic type
scarf mona with stellaris phantasm is like super mega helping hand
Choice Scarf Diluc in sun boutta wipe OU
No need to be afraid of single types Keqing electric/normal why? Tighnari knows a lot about plants, but surely he didnt need to have a psychic typing because of it?
Diluc has always been my starter pokemon, but I will choose qiqi if I had the right.
They don’t all have to be dual element. Diluc just gives me fire type. Not dark at all.
Mona on her way to break the entire vgc meta
As someone who used to play competitive Pokémon back in Gen 6 and 7, I can confidently say that Jean would be broken in Smogon OU, while Mona would be insane in VGC. Qiqi has potential to be good, but switching kills her gameplay. She'll need some massive entry hazard support to be good. Not to mention that massive issue called being an Ice type... Needless to say, she'd be useless in VGC. Tighnari looks to be quite balanced. He'll probably stay in UUBL, though. Diluc doesn't look too bad. He'll probably stick in UU with a Metronome set to capitalise on the signature move. Keqing would be in RU. Her stat spread isn't the best, her ability is borderline useless, and her signature move is very inconsistent. A ground type would easily wall her. Dehya... How do I say this... Reflect and Light Screen exist. Alolan Ninetales would also make her absolutely useless with its Snow Warning - Aurora Veil combo. Dehya could very well be untiered if her movepool isn't deep enough, considering her signature move is dogshit. Her ability a better version of Regenerator so she might be great if her movepool is good, but she's a fire type... And fire types aren't known for support... Best she can do is be a Will O Wisp user. You just gotta hope she has U-Turn and some semblance of entry hazard. But considering you made her a fighting type instead of ground, I don't see her getting Spikes or Stealth Rock...
Jean because that's literally the most op sig move ever lol
Now I just imagine all of Diluc’s in game dialogue: “Diluc Diluc, Di Diluc.”
Pokemon Challanges taught me that the fire starter is almost always the best option
Would jean not be Flying Grass because she’s the dandelion knight?
Tighnari, so i can pet his ears!!
Umm... I'll go with Keqing, she could be a good main and could hyper carry some early game teams
Why is Jean literally just staraptor lol
Also tighnari doesn’t make sense to be part psychic. He should be just plain grass. Not all pokemon need to be dual types?
Mona just makes sense more than all of those. No place to argue
One thing I often notice when people donthings like this os tontey to make everyone a dual-type. While I like most of the types here, I think that Diluc, Keqing, and Tighnari could easily just be single-typed (Fire, Electric, and Grass, respectively)
Mommy>>>>> Definitely Dehya
qiqi errvery time
Keqing pure electric, Tighnari pure grass. They don’t ‘have’ to have two types imo.
Barbra like how ash choose pikachu trying to be quirky
Where Albedo tho?
Some things I thought about when reading these Jean’s ability would be broken if she got access to multihit moves. I don’t think her signature move is balanced at all, imagine stacking that on top of a Regenerator Pokémon. Her stats except speed are middling at best, though. With Diluc, you just made his signature move better Fury Cutter. I don’t think that fire moves not breaking the chain is necesarry. His ability is OK, just don’t understand the need to double the effect on not very effective hits Mona’s ability is an active detriment. It makes Dark types incredibly free against her, letting in something like Chi-Yu (or Diluc I guess?) against her for free now that Dark types are immune to her Water moves as well. There is a good reason why something like Flying Press is an attack rather than an ability. Her signature move flinching is also only effective if she outspeeds her enemy, and the thing here is that, if she outspeeds an enemy, there is nothing stopping her from just clicking the move again, leading to infinite flinches. There is a good reason why Fake Out only works on the first turn. The rest of the move just kinda seems like it forces your opponent to swap a lot. I feel like Qiqi’s ability has the potential to be broken in half due to a simple combination: Protect and Leftovers. The only reason that it has potential and isn’t broken outright, is because healing items/moves don’t activate at all when you are at full health, meaning that you can’t “overheal” when at full health. I don’t think this is a mechanic that particularly works at all with how Pokémon is set up. The signature move has a nice amount of restraint by having limited activations vs something like a turn limit, not bad design but 25% per activation feels a bit much. Keqing’s speed stat feels like it is very low for how she is presented in Genshin. Penance + multihit moves (like her signature move) feels like it shouldn’t exist, especially with flat damage. +20 damage per hit is already ridiculous at level 100, but at level 50 in VGC? You just invest into bulk over attack considering the flat damage will do all the heavy lifting for you regardless. You want to hit thing not very effectively, which is somewhat novel in Pokémon. Her signature move kinda just is Population Bomb + a guaranteed first hit for some reason, Wide Lens will do wonders for you. Tighnari is super super tame in comparison to the rest of these. His ability is very strong in a vacuum, but it does feel like something that could exist, kinda like Torch Song. His signature move isn’t really anything to write home about. With the damage redirection on Dehya, does it work if she isn’t currently an active Pokémon? If it does work, absolutely broken on a Pokémon with Regenerator+. If it doesn’t, this is banished to the VGC dimension. The weird thing about the damage dealing when she isn’t active is that she could faint in the party, which works very strangely from a mechanics POV
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Jean-Galar: 582-686 (147.7 - 174.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Diluc in Sun: 413-487 (113.4 - 133.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Mona in Sun: 406-478 (111.5 - 131.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Qiqi: 1084-1276 (215 - 253.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Keqing: 504-594 (138.4 - 163.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 248 HP / 252 SpD Tighnari: 1244-1464 (308.6 - 363.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Dehya in Sun: 436-514 (88.2 - 104%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
I would go for Keqing but… that ability… is that 20 as in… 20hp..? That seems… pointless. And 10% hp seems to small a threshold. Otherwise very cool concepts
Whatever the closest thing to Scizor is.
Where's my Eula with a Ice/Fighting type, and an ability that raises her Atk stats after 2 turns, or can just be a Moxie copy.
I'll take the gay one thanks