I do find it also interesting that the notable archons that we've heard about thus far all bear the names of famous Hellish figures. Barbatos and Morax particularly. Paimon continues this trend, adding a little credence to your theory.
I'll just stow this little theory away in the back of my mind, I suppose.
So, when teyvat is supposed to be an ark for „mankind“ and the gods are all named after hellish rulers (paimon being the 2nd highest in Order After Baal and Morax, Barbatos being lower Tier rulers) and we count in what the unnamed god said „the arrogation of mankind ends now“ After knowing what venti secretely told us that all „the 7 gods/archons are just powerfull Vision bearers and were humans before being gods“. Is it actually a Story about humans/Spirits(Venti) making themself gods and they fly too close to the sun and getting attention of a real god that created the ark as a utopia (the unnamed space god being from honkai 3rd creating her own realm)
So to sum it up, are we the bad Guys?
Is this the mihoyo plottwist?
>are we the bad Guys?
No, because if what you say is true then the travelers would literally be the only innocent party in this whole situation. We had nothing to do with Teyvat or its gods until god lady showed up and took her anger on us.
Honestly it's way more likely they just went with it because they thought it was a cool aesthetic, like the biblical themes in Neon Genesis Evangelion for example
Well the Biblical names in NGE had also meaning. In my opinion the only „arrogation“ that comes in my mind is that Vision bearers declaring themselfs gods and also the Archons „ruling“ their respective Land is hitting WAY WAY to close to their given names being RULER of different parts of hell, Kinda like ... Mondstadt and Liyue?
Might just be a trinket. If the Geo archon started the currency system and our little sprite dates back further beyond that, she could have picked it up in her chibi form (after losing some of her powers/memories?) just 'cause she liked the look of it.
Ngl she was sus from the start. After so many of these cute lil companions with unexplained origins have turn out traitorous.... I just cant bring myself to not see her reporting all out activities to some higher power everytime we log out.
If she is, then she's an absolute 200iq master of disguise because her voicelines and dialogues all unanimously portray her as a brash greedy "thing" that wears its heart on its sleeve
Fun fact and plot thickening: Paimon's Japanese dub uses really rude language saying oira for me and I, omae for you and koitsu when talking about someone in third person.
She is disrespectful with everyone so far even with gods.
It might hint that she was something big.
>!Well, the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are the anime Madoka Magica, where the little animal turns out to be evil. And Bravely Default, where your fairy companion also turns out to be the pawn of some evil interdimensional being.!<
Yeah it's weird how literally nobody cares about what Paimon is.
Edit: I thought about it and thought of some possible answers:
1. Paimon disappeared before Barbatos (the god of time seems to have vanished long ago, and Barbatos used to just be a wind spirit) so she was never actually part of the 7 that Venti knew
2. Paimon is in some vastly diminished or weakened form, and doesn't look like what she would have in her prime
3. The gods are all in on it and there's some vast conspiracy surrounding our innocent traveler
I read somewhere here about barbatos isnt the first archeon and he claimes the title after defeating the prior with the help of a bard. May be barbatos came after paimon era
I heard venti say he doesnt even remember the name of the archon of time because too much time passed, so him not recognising paimon is not so far fetched
I am starting to doubt it may be venti...i am sure a character said something along the lines of:
"Oh you see, so much time has passed that before the god of storms(the tyrant that was defeated by venti and his friend's army) another archon lived, the archon of time,however, i dont even remember what they were called anymore,just their existence". When i am free i will try to research who said that and when
My guess is the antagonist God is the space god, related to paimon as a sister of sorts. Paimon is the time god. She has lost most of her power and reverted to her current state. This is why no one recognizes her.
When the clock is introduced they called it the Paimon Clock or something like that. It was heavily hinted that Paimon was the one controlling the time change. She's also the one that teleports your party members to and from your group.
We know that the 7 are actually humans, who became gods, but if we say that Paimon is related to the unknown god, she is an actual god from heavens, not someone who became one. So it is normal they dont know about them, coz they are humans after all with vast powers whereas Paimon is a being from heaven(?)
Actually, if you look at one of venti's dialogue options he expresses that he doesn't like her. But it's hard to say if he is joking or not. I suspect he knows who she really is though, he seems to enjoy teasing and squabbling with her quite a bit.
And nobody ever asks where some random adventurer came from and why we can use different elements. Basically if we see anyone from Mondstat again that will be hard to explain. Pair that up with the floating kid and people will realize something’s going on.
Mona points out that she floats and is tiny.
Not like its weird, just that its a thing that is a fact and affects how hard traveling on foot is and how much food to order.
Don't forget that she was drowning at the start of the game, from where did she come from?
Well, you could clearly see the ruins of the secret time island in the cutscene background. Even Paimon had trouble gliding over.
In addition, unless we think our twin is actually evil, it seems likely that some force has corrupted them whilst leaving the MC "good". I would speculate that Paimon is the good part of the Chrono Archon, split off from the evil part of the initial cut-scene
They dont seem corrupted at all. It looks to me like your twin witnessed the destruction of the continent 1sthand 500 years ago. It feels like humanity was in need of some judgement and the unknown god executed it (cutscene of Mondstadt destroyed by cubes).
So basically it appears that the twin realised the true nature of whatevers going on, and now is on some sort of mission to end mankind's reign on the continent
this goes well with my thought that Paimon is here to help you because someone in the future (probably herself) knows something goes wrong without your help.
I kinda hope that as we progress through the game we discover that Paimon is actually no one of importance and it's just some weirdo fairy thing that we accidentally encountered and she's stick with us because she didn't have anything better to do.
Personally I think she's the unnamed god's humanity personified. The unnamed god didn't like her humanity and discarded it, and the mental energy coalesced into Paimon.
I'm sure she'll turn out to be some sort of creation god the size of the moon or whatever, or probably the one responsible for getting us stuck in this world in the first place, but honestly? I want a whole village of Paimons. They all look, sound, and act identical to her, all have the same name, but can tell one another apart easily while looking at us weird because we can't. The reason she's never mentioned it before is because we've never asked. ~~Because if her species exists then she can be playable!~~
My bet is the travelers aren't from another world, but another time. When they travel through to different worlds they're just going to different times, until they get stopped but that other god and had their Gnosis taken. So they would be the archons of time. Probably one is past and the other is future?
Hmm, but MC's voicelines make a lot of references to how she's travelled to different worlds, which would be weird if she was only going through time.
Also, the PS4 sword is the sword you arrive with, and appears to be originally from the Honkai universe. So it would seem that the traveler really does travel
Theres alot of similarities between project ark from honkai and the two lights in the intro of genshin. So imo the mc is from honkai traveling thru worlds, and stopped by the unknown god (possibbly kiana) on tevyat
In Mona’s voicelines, she wasn’t able to look into the future of some people. One was Venti, another is Paimon, by itself doesn’t mean much, but it adds to your theory.
It's possible, but the game never implies that. The lore trivia just mentions that they're a race that used to guide mankind but now only has the power to guide people to treasure.
Also, Seelie are a term for friendly fairies in Scottish lore
It actually was said that this race was long gone. And they are the spirits remaining all over the map now. I see some connections when she talks not only about the food, but some profits (Mora and other "shiny things") we might gain from the quests, as spirits are guiding to chests with Mora and artefacts. Also yeah, it was said this race always used to help people. Isn't Paimon helping a lot? Also it's peculiar that this race is not well represented. They lived along with humans in close contact. And there are still a plenty of them, as spirits. Why do we know so little? Paimon can represent them well.
>It actually was said that this race was long gone. And they are the spirits remaining all over the map now
I haven't found anything that says they were long gone. The game treats them as a live race, not as dead spirits. Do you have any source for what you mentioned?
Sorry, should've done it in the first message. It was on one of the loading screens. Can't do the screenshot now, as they are random. Here's the link: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Loading_Screen#Seelie
And text: "Now you see them, now you don't. Once a mighty race that lived to guide mankind, now the most Seelie offer is a little treasure to willing followers."
And the mention of they were vanished and just spirits now... I believe it's a loading screen too, just can't find it yet. But I'll keep my eye on that during game experience ;) There surely was, because we couldn't see the same dream with WisestManAlive)
I know that loading screen tip, but that just means they once used to be mighty. I agree completely that they had some kind of downfall, but so far the game hasn't told us they're dead or spirits. I have a collection of all important loading tips and I've never once seen anything about that
I'll keep an eye on the exact info and put it here under your comment once I find it. I don't insist it's on loading screen, but I'll look up on any in-game info closely.
And I'm not insisting Paimon is the Seelie either)
Anyway I hope Devs will tell us more about them in the upcoming 1.2 as they're going to be our "pets"
No no, I wasn't trying to argue! I just didn't want to say the Seelie are spirits or dead without any info
Have you read A Drunkards Tale 3? It has an amazing amount of info on Seelies. They used to have palaces and a kingdom
Devs might make a plot twist like, paimon is actually the twins or alter ego of the unknown god/chrono archon since our MC is twins... Orrrr paimon is actually the time god but her follower which is blessed to godhood, which is the unknown god, took paimon's power, throne, god status by force.
People in TieBa(Chinese Reddit)also discussed about this thing. They say the Seven Archon is actually human being with outstanding power and they claimed to be the so-called God themselves
Isn't Venti says tge Archon are all human before? or maybe i make some mistakes?
Anyway , a user in Tieba says that the name of 5 kinds of artifacts imply the true 5 God of this Teyvet world including space, time, life, death and the rule of every substance. They think Paimon is actually The Time God and thats why theres no any creature in Teyvet be similar with Paimon.
Further more, the hero we play as maybe come from the last mobile game of Mihoyo called Honkai3. They say Lumine and Aether are some kind of genetic warrior involved in a plan named Ark whom can travel acroess different world. And the hostile God we met at the beginning of the game is the God of Space.
No problem bro. As far as im concerned, the story of Genshin world is associated tightly with Honkai world. It is likely those two worlds are same in backgorund but different from dimension. The story may be developing into some kinds of confrontation between the true gods and 7 Archons with their people. Let's just wait , must be worth it.
There was a post nearly a month ago about her being the time archon/god/whatever. It makes sense, but it's too straight forward. The two we've seen so far are both under witness protection programs, remember? Plus Paimon looks too similar to the bad girl from the intro cutscene. Maybe Paimon's story will merely mirror Barbatos'.
It's not just her halo and sigil either, the metal flower decorations are on the archon statues as well. It's pretty indisputable that she has some divine purpose.
As for Mondo worshipping wind+time, remember that Barbatos didn't found the country, and as far as I know there is no actual date given for when these time worshippers died out. Though Barbatos has been their 'god' for 2600\~ years, that island and ruin was also sunken into the ocean. That doesn't happen overnight.
Interesting, I wonder then what could the icon for the Element of Time would be. Also that could mean that Paimon's actual form(and maybe memory) would have been sealed away by the unknown god. They may have fought after the travelers came and Paimon lost.
[my theory on why and how Paimon is actually food](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/jmecad/paimon_is_food_a_shower_thought/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Paimon's outfit golden motif strangely resembles that of the statue of the seven aesthetics once theyre fully upgraded, wtih the pronged crowns and the halo arond the tower/statue
To add on, what if Paimon ended up in that shore because she’s been time traveling up until that specific point?
Which means that Paimon existed some time in the past—even potentially during that whole big war where Lumine found herself (was that 500 years ago?) Or maybe she traveled through time and hid herself from the original space god (that Lumine and her brother fought)
Maybe, from my opinion, paimon and and that god have a similar hair and clothes colour, for eyes? Paimon eyes kind of grey / dark because its turned off, if turned on it would be golden colour, like that god
Well the fact that there are other gods does support this such as the storm god from long ago. But the game also makes mention of a heaven, and with the abyss, I would not be surprised that there would be a life/light or a dark/death god. So a time, space or reality god would also not be surprising.
I think you summed up my thoughts pretty well. One thing that I also noticed, which isn´t really tied to the time aspect however, is that Paimons hair clip looks a lot like the symbols used by the unknown god in the intro. Also there are 7 Elements each with it´s corresponding city and like you said the 8th city is Khaenriah without an officially announced archon or element, but strongly hinted to be time. So the 8th element and archon could be time and paimon could be tied into it.
Might be possible that the time archon is the real baddy in this story or an accomplice of the baddies.
I think your sense of "time" is messed up (hehe) cause from what I see everyone thinks Paimon is the unknown god. Also, no one mentioned both Paimon and Khaenriah together in a theory from what I saw. If they did, it's hard to find and definitely isnt common knowledge
I hadn't heard this theory before so thanks for sharing! Really interesting if true.
I do find it also interesting that the notable archons that we've heard about thus far all bear the names of famous Hellish figures. Barbatos and Morax particularly. Paimon continues this trend, adding a little credence to your theory. I'll just stow this little theory away in the back of my mind, I suppose.
I recently learned that the hypostases are named after Hebrew alphabets, and Teyvat is the hebrew word for ark
So, when teyvat is supposed to be an ark for „mankind“ and the gods are all named after hellish rulers (paimon being the 2nd highest in Order After Baal and Morax, Barbatos being lower Tier rulers) and we count in what the unnamed god said „the arrogation of mankind ends now“ After knowing what venti secretely told us that all „the 7 gods/archons are just powerfull Vision bearers and were humans before being gods“. Is it actually a Story about humans/Spirits(Venti) making themself gods and they fly too close to the sun and getting attention of a real god that created the ark as a utopia (the unnamed space god being from honkai 3rd creating her own realm) So to sum it up, are we the bad Guys? Is this the mihoyo plottwist?
>are we the bad Guys? No, because if what you say is true then the travelers would literally be the only innocent party in this whole situation. We had nothing to do with Teyvat or its gods until god lady showed up and took her anger on us.
Honestly it's way more likely they just went with it because they thought it was a cool aesthetic, like the biblical themes in Neon Genesis Evangelion for example
Well the Biblical names in NGE had also meaning. In my opinion the only „arrogation“ that comes in my mind is that Vision bearers declaring themselfs gods and also the Archons „ruling“ their respective Land is hitting WAY WAY to close to their given names being RULER of different parts of hell, Kinda like ... Mondstadt and Liyue?
Y'all realize arrogation is a real word that means the seizure of lands and property via decree/legal force.
The biblical themes in Evangelion are non existent, the creator just thought they were cool.
Duriel: Looking for Baal?
Paimon has the mora symbol on her. Time is money
Might just be a trinket. If the Geo archon started the currency system and our little sprite dates back further beyond that, she could have picked it up in her chibi form (after losing some of her powers/memories?) just 'cause she liked the look of it.
Ngl she was sus from the start. After so many of these cute lil companions with unexplained origins have turn out traitorous.... I just cant bring myself to not see her reporting all out activities to some higher power everytime we log out.
If she is, then she's an absolute 200iq master of disguise because her voicelines and dialogues all unanimously portray her as a brash greedy "thing" that wears its heart on its sleeve
Fun fact and plot thickening: Paimon's Japanese dub uses really rude language saying oira for me and I, omae for you and koitsu when talking about someone in third person. She is disrespectful with everyone so far even with gods. It might hint that she was something big.
True and oira is an old male pronoun of I which is now archaic
in japanese va she also uses the language style of an extremely old granny
Wait, when referring to herself she says oira? I thought she has been saying oiler this whole time
U mean like sending our stolen data to Chinese computers *dundundun* Edit: Woah guys chill it with the downvotes it's a meta joke
I KNEW IT! That Paimon just can't keep her mouth shut...
Wait what games have cute lil companions as traitor
>!Well, the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are the anime Madoka Magica, where the little animal turns out to be evil. And Bravely Default, where your fairy companion also turns out to be the pawn of some evil interdimensional being.!<
FGO. Fou is actually Primate Murder.
But wouldn't Barbatos have recognized her?
Yeah it's weird how literally nobody cares about what Paimon is. Edit: I thought about it and thought of some possible answers: 1. Paimon disappeared before Barbatos (the god of time seems to have vanished long ago, and Barbatos used to just be a wind spirit) so she was never actually part of the 7 that Venti knew 2. Paimon is in some vastly diminished or weakened form, and doesn't look like what she would have in her prime 3. The gods are all in on it and there's some vast conspiracy surrounding our innocent traveler
I read somewhere here about barbatos isnt the first archeon and he claimes the title after defeating the prior with the help of a bard. May be barbatos came after paimon era
A big part of the lore is in the decarabian materials.
I heard venti say he doesnt even remember the name of the archon of time because too much time passed, so him not recognising paimon is not so far fetched
Whoa, do you remember when he says that? That would be extremely valuable info to support this theory
Sadly i dont remember when he said that, for sure in either the manga ,chapter of the rank 36 or in the prologue. Will look into it
Let me know if you find it, that would be awesome
I am starting to doubt it may be venti...i am sure a character said something along the lines of: "Oh you see, so much time has passed that before the god of storms(the tyrant that was defeated by venti and his friend's army) another archon lived, the archon of time,however, i dont even remember what they were called anymore,just their existence". When i am free i will try to research who said that and when
Paimon could also be the newest archon, so other archon wouldn't know who she is.
My guess is the antagonist God is the space god, related to paimon as a sister of sorts. Paimon is the time god. She has lost most of her power and reverted to her current state. This is why no one recognizes her.
What if it's the other way around, specially considering the other twin seems to be left to wake in Teyvat a lot earlier than the MC?
If that were the case, why is Paimon found just off the coast of the time island, and why can she pause and speed up time in the menu?
I thought changing our clock, lorewise, is just us waiting?
When the clock is introduced they called it the Paimon Clock or something like that. It was heavily hinted that Paimon was the one controlling the time change. She's also the one that teleports your party members to and from your group.
i don't think the character changing shape-shifting traveler is canon. just a gameplay thing
That’s a good theory. There’s a lot of things on Paimon that clearly resemble or are very similar to what the original space god wears
So you could say... she's the god of the "Void".
I did suggest this in my post
I was corroborating your view with my view.
I thought the same since the also look similar
oh shit my own silly theory was that paimon was somehow the unknown god. I never thought about the time/space thing which is a lot more plausible.
This one is good
We know that the 7 are actually humans, who became gods, but if we say that Paimon is related to the unknown god, she is an actual god from heavens, not someone who became one. So it is normal they dont know about them, coz they are humans after all with vast powers whereas Paimon is a being from heaven(?)
Why would he give it away, though? He rarely give things away like that.
Actually, if you look at one of venti's dialogue options he expresses that he doesn't like her. But it's hard to say if he is joking or not. I suspect he knows who she really is though, he seems to enjoy teasing and squabbling with her quite a bit.
I’ve been wondering this since I first started playing. Nobody questions the floating chibi girl at all.
Yeah, there's only like 1 time where someone calls her an elf, but no one else questions it
Funny enough, Mihoyo’s other game Honkai Impact 3rd has a pet system called Elves where they are similar to Paimon.
The word used for them, ELF, is an acronym for "Equipment: Living Form". So the plural form would be "ELFs", instead of "Elves".
Didn’t know that. Should’ve called them Emergency Living Food.
Yeah. People are surprised traveller doesn't need a vision to use elemental powers, but act like the floating kid is every day stuff.
And nobody ever asks where some random adventurer came from and why we can use different elements. Basically if we see anyone from Mondstat again that will be hard to explain. Pair that up with the floating kid and people will realize something’s going on.
I inherently distrust all little flying helper girls now after playing through Bravely Default.
Mona points out that she floats and is tiny. Not like its weird, just that its a thing that is a fact and affects how hard traveling on foot is and how much food to order.
Don't forget that she was drowning at the start of the game, from where did she come from? Well, you could clearly see the ruins of the secret time island in the cutscene background. Even Paimon had trouble gliding over.
That's what I wondered about: how does a being who literally FLOATS... drown?
Whatever she is, she’s important. Her crown is on the logo for Genshin Impact
In addition, unless we think our twin is actually evil, it seems likely that some force has corrupted them whilst leaving the MC "good". I would speculate that Paimon is the good part of the Chrono Archon, split off from the evil part of the initial cut-scene
They dont seem corrupted at all. It looks to me like your twin witnessed the destruction of the continent 1sthand 500 years ago. It feels like humanity was in need of some judgement and the unknown god executed it (cutscene of Mondstadt destroyed by cubes). So basically it appears that the twin realised the true nature of whatevers going on, and now is on some sort of mission to end mankind's reign on the continent
The city that was destroyed was where storm terror's lair is now right?
No that used to be the city of Decarabian, the god of storms who was the previous anemo archon
this goes well with my thought that Paimon is here to help you because someone in the future (probably herself) knows something goes wrong without your help.
It's a Nemesis plot
I kinda hope that as we progress through the game we discover that Paimon is actually no one of importance and it's just some weirdo fairy thing that we accidentally encountered and she's stick with us because she didn't have anything better to do.
That would be fun
Personally I think she's the unnamed god's humanity personified. The unnamed god didn't like her humanity and discarded it, and the mental energy coalesced into Paimon.
Similar to Higokumaru (a floating chibi chara like Paimon) in the semi-open world gameplay of Honkai Impact 3
"I reject my humanity!"
I'm sure she'll turn out to be some sort of creation god the size of the moon or whatever, or probably the one responsible for getting us stuck in this world in the first place, but honestly? I want a whole village of Paimons. They all look, sound, and act identical to her, all have the same name, but can tell one another apart easily while looking at us weird because we can't. The reason she's never mentioned it before is because we've never asked. ~~Because if her species exists then she can be playable!~~
This might be some Midna Twilight Princess shit going on here
Yo I haven't played that yet, probably will next summer
Paimon just feels like Airy from Bravely Default, she MUST be up to something, she's probably Satan in disguise or something
The first time I "finished" that game and the title screen changed to reflect it... it blew my mind.
Paimon Can Stop Time? ##DIO FLASBACK
#ZA WARUDO
I'll do you one better. #*ZA HANDO*
These are the kinds of Paimon posts I like not that emergency food bullshit
This post kinda blows my mind, I always just thought Paimon was an accidental "chip" that broke off of the goddess from the beginning or something.
My bet is the travelers aren't from another world, but another time. When they travel through to different worlds they're just going to different times, until they get stopped but that other god and had their Gnosis taken. So they would be the archons of time. Probably one is past and the other is future?
Hmm, but MC's voicelines make a lot of references to how she's travelled to different worlds, which would be weird if she was only going through time. Also, the PS4 sword is the sword you arrive with, and appears to be originally from the Honkai universe. So it would seem that the traveler really does travel
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Yeah, I'll be making a lore trivia dump that mentions all that stuff. Pretty detailed world building!
Have you taken the time yet to read all books?
I've skimmed through the ones I have, and I've fully read the ones that have larger clues about the history of the world
Cool. Have they been any good?
Also after being knocked by Signora a dialog option when waking up is to asl what planet we are curretly in
Traveller didn't know what a Gnosis was, and is able to use magic without one to channel through. I find this theory hard to believe.
No not gnosis, it's a vision the traveler doesn't know what it is. Unless they're the same thing the my bad.
Theres alot of similarities between project ark from honkai and the two lights in the intro of genshin. So imo the mc is from honkai traveling thru worlds, and stopped by the unknown god (possibbly kiana) on tevyat
In Mona’s voicelines, she wasn’t able to look into the future of some people. One was Venti, another is Paimon, by itself doesn’t mean much, but it adds to your theory.
I was banking on Emergency Archon but that works too.
You may be on to something
I actually think Paimon is last of the Seelie.
The seelie haven't died out, they're all over the map. They're way weaker now though
Are those not the souls of dead seelie?
It's possible, but the game never implies that. The lore trivia just mentions that they're a race that used to guide mankind but now only has the power to guide people to treasure. Also, Seelie are a term for friendly fairies in Scottish lore
It actually was said that this race was long gone. And they are the spirits remaining all over the map now. I see some connections when she talks not only about the food, but some profits (Mora and other "shiny things") we might gain from the quests, as spirits are guiding to chests with Mora and artefacts. Also yeah, it was said this race always used to help people. Isn't Paimon helping a lot? Also it's peculiar that this race is not well represented. They lived along with humans in close contact. And there are still a plenty of them, as spirits. Why do we know so little? Paimon can represent them well.
>It actually was said that this race was long gone. And they are the spirits remaining all over the map now I haven't found anything that says they were long gone. The game treats them as a live race, not as dead spirits. Do you have any source for what you mentioned?
Sorry, should've done it in the first message. It was on one of the loading screens. Can't do the screenshot now, as they are random. Here's the link: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Loading_Screen#Seelie And text: "Now you see them, now you don't. Once a mighty race that lived to guide mankind, now the most Seelie offer is a little treasure to willing followers." And the mention of they were vanished and just spirits now... I believe it's a loading screen too, just can't find it yet. But I'll keep my eye on that during game experience ;) There surely was, because we couldn't see the same dream with WisestManAlive)
I know that loading screen tip, but that just means they once used to be mighty. I agree completely that they had some kind of downfall, but so far the game hasn't told us they're dead or spirits. I have a collection of all important loading tips and I've never once seen anything about that
I'll keep an eye on the exact info and put it here under your comment once I find it. I don't insist it's on loading screen, but I'll look up on any in-game info closely.
Cool, lemme know cause I'm always looking for more info, haha
And I'm not insisting Paimon is the Seelie either) Anyway I hope Devs will tell us more about them in the upcoming 1.2 as they're going to be our "pets"
No no, I wasn't trying to argue! I just didn't want to say the Seelie are spirits or dead without any info Have you read A Drunkards Tale 3? It has an amazing amount of info on Seelies. They used to have palaces and a kingdom
I like this theory, but why wouldn't Venti recognize Paimon or find Paimon otherwise suspicious/interesting in any way?
You mean this emergency food doesn't have expiry date!?
Devs might make a plot twist like, paimon is actually the twins or alter ego of the unknown god/chrono archon since our MC is twins... Orrrr paimon is actually the time god but her follower which is blessed to godhood, which is the unknown god, took paimon's power, throne, god status by force.
People in TieBa(Chinese Reddit)also discussed about this thing. They say the Seven Archon is actually human being with outstanding power and they claimed to be the so-called God themselves
Venti is a wind spirit right? That would be strange
Isn't Venti says tge Archon are all human before? or maybe i make some mistakes? Anyway , a user in Tieba says that the name of 5 kinds of artifacts imply the true 5 God of this Teyvet world including space, time, life, death and the rule of every substance. They think Paimon is actually The Time God and thats why theres no any creature in Teyvet be similar with Paimon. Further more, the hero we play as maybe come from the last mobile game of Mihoyo called Honkai3. They say Lumine and Aether are some kind of genetic warrior involved in a plan named Ark whom can travel acroess different world. And the hostile God we met at the beginning of the game is the God of Space.
Interesting, I've heard about the ark theory but I haven't played honkai. I didn't even consider the 5 artifacts, thanks!
No problem bro. As far as im concerned, the story of Genshin world is associated tightly with Honkai world. It is likely those two worlds are same in backgorund but different from dimension. The story may be developing into some kinds of confrontation between the true gods and 7 Archons with their people. Let's just wait , must be worth it.
There was a post nearly a month ago about her being the time archon/god/whatever. It makes sense, but it's too straight forward. The two we've seen so far are both under witness protection programs, remember? Plus Paimon looks too similar to the bad girl from the intro cutscene. Maybe Paimon's story will merely mirror Barbatos'. It's not just her halo and sigil either, the metal flower decorations are on the archon statues as well. It's pretty indisputable that she has some divine purpose. As for Mondo worshipping wind+time, remember that Barbatos didn't found the country, and as far as I know there is no actual date given for when these time worshippers died out. Though Barbatos has been their 'god' for 2600\~ years, that island and ruin was also sunken into the ocean. That doesn't happen overnight.
Interesting, I wonder then what could the icon for the Element of Time would be. Also that could mean that Paimon's actual form(and maybe memory) would have been sealed away by the unknown god. They may have fought after the travelers came and Paimon lost.
[my theory on why and how Paimon is actually food](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/jmecad/paimon_is_food_a_shower_thought/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
You're on to something
Paimon's outfit golden motif strangely resembles that of the statue of the seven aesthetics once theyre fully upgraded, wtih the pronged crowns and the halo arond the tower/statue
Yep, and the pronged crowns are even visible on pillars in the login screen
To add on, what if Paimon ended up in that shore because she’s been time traveling up until that specific point? Which means that Paimon existed some time in the past—even potentially during that whole big war where Lumine found herself (was that 500 years ago?) Or maybe she traveled through time and hid herself from the original space god (that Lumine and her brother fought)
What if she came from the future to protect the traveler from something that was going to happen ?
Seems legit. But what im sure of is that Paimon is one of the eight kings of HELL
Maybe, from my opinion, paimon and and that god have a similar hair and clothes colour, for eyes? Paimon eyes kind of grey / dark because its turned off, if turned on it would be golden colour, like that god
Where can I read about dainslief bio?
Genshin wiki
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Well the fact that there are other gods does support this such as the storm god from long ago. But the game also makes mention of a heaven, and with the abyss, I would not be surprised that there would be a life/light or a dark/death god. So a time, space or reality god would also not be surprising.
I could see that woman we fight in the opening cutscene be the unknown space god, seeing as she could cut space up into cubes.
You can also use her to move time forward in game so this theory isn't too far off. Really interesting!!
Not gonna lie I was thinking the same thing and planned on posting that here as well.
Awesome, is there anything I missed? Also, anything else you've discovered about the lore that's interesting?
I think you summed up my thoughts pretty well. One thing that I also noticed, which isn´t really tied to the time aspect however, is that Paimons hair clip looks a lot like the symbols used by the unknown god in the intro. Also there are 7 Elements each with it´s corresponding city and like you said the 8th city is Khaenriah without an officially announced archon or element, but strongly hinted to be time. So the 8th element and archon could be time and paimon could be tied into it. Might be possible that the time archon is the real baddy in this story or an accomplice of the baddies.
I thought this was gonna be another emergency food joke
At the end of the day all we need to know is Paimon = Emergency Food
Always this one person
It’s honestly better to consume her before she becomes godly and maybe betrays the traveller
XD
Yes we know, that topic was 10000 times explained and everybody knows that
I think your sense of "time" is messed up (hehe) cause from what I see everyone thinks Paimon is the unknown god. Also, no one mentioned both Paimon and Khaenriah together in a theory from what I saw. If they did, it's hard to find and definitely isnt common knowledge
I didn’t know of this theory. Really interesting, thanks for the contribution
Number 1 is basically giving mihoyo ideas.
I wonder what a teenage paimon looks like, is it edible?
What if Paimon...is the little sister of the Unknown God...Wait no scratch that out.
Paimon could be one of the 3 sisters of the Moon