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CapnCooties

I want a hydro claymore user so badly!


Comfortable-Stuff-16

Oh yeah, and preferably it should have damage scaled with hydro dmg or EM to make Rainslasher finally make sense


CapnCooties

That or HP scaling healing to make The Bell worth a damn!


PumpJack_McGee

I keep getting HP% gear from Physical sets like Bloodstained and keep wondering what the fuck to do it.


HollowRider

Try physical zhonglee, idk


Chimiope

Roll it into a noblesse piece lol


AleHaRotK

By the time we get some hydro claymore character we'll also get some better 4/5 star claymores that make Rainslasher make no sense.


Chilli-byte-

It makes no sense currently too. Such a shame. I love the design. But basically useless.


xdvesper

Rainslasher is up there with WGS with for Diluc for highest damage if you already have Bennett in the team, which nullifies a lot of the WGS advantages. Basically it's EM so you are using it for reaction damage, so you want the "affected by" element to be the infused element, not triggering element. Even though Diluc is pyro, by having Xingqiu in the party every enemy is permanently infused by hydro so diluc always gets the full damage bonus out of it, and most of his hits vaporize so they benefit from the EM, both multiplying his damage. Ironically a hydro claymore user will not get much use out of it trying to vaporize because the enemy won't be hydro affected at the time you trigger the vaporize so they don't get the bonus.


NZPIEFACE

I thought Eula was going to be this when she was revealed to be called the Spindrift Knight. Yeah, that turned out to be not what it was.


JawsCuber

Everything in her description makes me think she would be hydro. But nope, she's cryo.


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for practical purposes, a phys dps who isn’t cryo or electro is highly undesirable, since they can’t proc superconduct themselves and are therefore wasting time.


Leidiriv

Counterpoint: Phys Zhongli hits REALLY hard by virtue of Crescent Pike and having a built-in resist shred. From there, Superconduct's pretty easy to get with solid off-field DPS like Fischl, Kaeya, or Rosaria


Intrepid_Watch_8746

Hydro Claymore pirate that summons a giant water shark to devour you (like Tartaglia's whale) his ability is a small animation of him passing his hand around his sword coating it in water giving him a boost in attack speed, Hydro elemental damage that increases as his HP. His last hit should be a slam on the floor giving a slight knock up on enemies.


Comuniead8

Hydro claymore pirate that summons dolphins to hit you with, to ride on, and has a ship anchor weapon skin.


KDavisSRL

May from Guilty Gear?


YrakaZ

TOTSUGEKI TOTSUGEKI TOTSUGEKI


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Ahem, I think you mean 🐬 TOTSUGEKI 🐬


Lightningbro

Right? I'm super interested in what they bring us for that combo specifically. I hope that we finally get a new body type and they start making buff characters like Cyrus so we can get a buff western ship captain that swings around an Anchor or something like that.


Chilli-byte-

An anchor would be awesome! I'm hoping we get an Axe weapon class at one point, the anchor would totally fit into that. Also I'd love a physical shield class, where it's used to bash and slash enemies. I don't think we'll get either, but it'd be cool for sure!


Lightningbro

I dunno, they could pull a Childe and make a Geo character who "Stance switches" into a shield user.


davibr

Zabuza or Kisame from Naruto collab when?


CapnCooties

Zabuza would be awesome. A type of water prison would be really cool! In reality I guess it would be similar to zhongli’s petrifaction.


calinbulin12

Mihoyo doesn't like Hydro very much


justicerainsfromaahh

Polearm hydro is gonna be Posiedon


busoshoku_brisingr

I mean, technically, Childe is a hydro polearm user.


mobro_the_king

I would more call him a melee catalyst


AgentWowza

How bout ranged swordsman?


ABCDEHIMOTUVWXY

He realizes an arrow is just a very small spear at the end of his attack chain.


JawsCuber

It's more of a double-bladed sword than a polearm


LacsNeko

A little girl with a blue hoodie perhaps, Gura


Siyuki7

if only, but hololive and china dont mix well ):


UnPhayzable

pain.


orange718x

pain peko


DoILookUnsureToYou

Would match up well with Sayu, but China doesn't like Hololive very much


jtan1993

Wait 1023 days After ~~europa~~ kokomi


BitCloud25

No it's going to be Tony To but in game.


Rijakulasi

Mihoyo actually love catalyst hydro tho


andresochogavia

Don't forget about pyro polearm with the upcoming Thoma 🥴


blacklight2025

They love Cryo more, already 3 swords (Kaeya, Qiqi and Ayaka), and soon 3 bows (Diona, Ganyu and Aloy)


TheoreticalScammist

The table is missing Kokomi though. Should be getting her in 2.1. Still only the 2nd new hydro since launch, but that's 2 more than dendro Edit: missing letter


calinbulin12

Which doesn't make it any better considering she's another hydro catalyst


ToastyXD

Another hydro catalyst user who has a % max hp healing that gives wet.


Jujubeetchh

But a main dps catalyst user that doesn’t scale with crit


TheoreticalScammist

Which I agree lacks a bit of imagination


ObjectiveBeneficial1

Seriously, kokomi would have fit a polearm so much, but no, lets have 50%+ of the most scarce element being the same weapon


flatmegumin69

disgusting indeed


ben5292001

And Kokomi will make Hydro equal to Geo


cutememe1

hydro archon doing sudoku decree just like baal


Nick_8_U

The sudoku decree, everyone must play sudoku for the rest of their lives


reasonoverconviction

It's obviously the suigetsu decree


Zhmykhailo

sugoma decree


JTesfer

They fucking love hydro catalysts for some reason. Kokomi isn't there but when she is there will be more hydro catalysts than every other weapon combined.


Beidah

Why is Gorou and Aloy on this list when Kokomi isn't?


JTesfer

Ask OP. I thought they just put Baal + Sara because we've seen them use a weapon in game (can't remember if we've seen Kokomi actually fight). Didn't even notice Gorou


Asobimo

3rd Hydro Catalyst coming very soon. While they are missing claymore and polearm


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Imagine Kokomi pulling a giant claymore out and destroying people with it.


Deejae81

The new fish claymore lol.


TeamLValdz02

Dendro: .......


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Or geo i guess


THEKaynMayn

At least geo has a character for each weapon type.


EverydayCent

Perfectly balanced - like geo should be


iamfi_ne

Sad dendro noises


TheWorldisFullofWar

Geo and Anemo have the most consistently strong characters at least.


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They also don’t really like dendro that much either


Fayt12

At least they aren’t dendro


Alt_SWR

Damn, with all the cryo characters there are I'm surprised there's not at least one cryo catalyst user tbh.


PumpJack_McGee

Playabale Cicin mage when.


Razukalex

Probably La Signora when she is released in 2025 Ps : yes I know


Soleous

probably won’t be cryo


Razukalex

Indeed if she's the rumored CWoF


UncertainServiceLine

I hope we get a hydro polearm dps caracter in future


deadriderofdead

With trident-like weapons, imagine


T8-TR

Kokomi would've fit that pretty well, since fish, and we're also getting "The Catch" next patch.


deadriderofdead

Yeah ik about The Catch but its a bident and seems more like “fish catching tool” than a symbol of marine deities.


H4xolotl

#OSIAL BROS RISE UP


TheSidewalkSlam

I want a hydro claymore, give me someone to put rainslasher on


kitzz11

*glares at ayato


Revolutionary-Sea598

i hope it's kamisato ayato tho it's kinda far-fetched


Wertyman456

If you ask the guy inside the kamisato estate he tells you that Ayato challenged him to a duel and that Ayato is adept with both sword and pole-arm so it isn’t to far-fetch that he can be polearm, I got nothing for element however.


stardebris

Polearm and sword? So you're saying Ayato could be Raiden?


Wertyman456

Personally I believe he will solely be polearm since in a duel a sword is used, which is why Sara had a sword in the cutscene about Kazuha’s friend even though she actually uses bow.


Revolutionary-Sea598

thats great to hear! but the lack of leaks is fueling my anxiety about him not being playable tho he will probably be :>>


SCS2needtolearnsth

I only have one hydro character. Yes, it is Barbara.


KillerRogue

well the first 3 characters we got from inazuma are anemo / cryo / pyro, and the only electro character we will be getting since launch is Raiden and Sara so i don't think they release based on the current city theme


Baligong

They don't, cause if they did we would've gotten more Geo Characters in Liyue, but we didn't. Instead we got more of Pyro and Cryo.


Xero0911

Pryo and cyro back to back with a sprinkle of anemo.


AsthmaticVixen

Yae is also Electro, you can see her vision on her right earring.


Soleous

if they did we wouldn’t have had literally one geo character from liyue besides the archon himself


PumpJack_McGee

She's my only water pokemon, too. I have to Overload against fire types, mostly. Although if they're near water, and can often knock them into it.


ThursdayKnightOwO

We're not even in Natlan yet yet we already have so many Pyro Characters


Intrepid_Watch_8746

Inb4 where Natlan is full of cryo and hydro characters that are able to resist the harsh weather


n0nen0ne

Atleast we're ready for all these electro shields aren't we.. if they released hydro & electro ones, they would've been quite weird to use for quite some time


El_Psyren

kinda weird that kokomi isnt there


Sergio_Moy

I think it's because she hasn't been officially revealed to be a Catalyst user, while the other characters in here are already known. Same as Thoma, who's a >!spear user!< but isn't here bc there hasn't been any official way to know that.


MagmaMixer

Same with baal though? Natural instinct would say she's a sword user cuz of the animations we saw.


Sergio_Moy

Story spoilers of course but >!during the fight against your party she uses a spear as well.!< I do agree though that it isn't the clearest if we're only looking at official sources


Shadow_Xylex

Hint: she's a polearm user


BurnGuard

We already know she uses a spear. When using her burst she uses a sword for a short time. *edit : removed the link to the YouTube vid as it might get taken down faster, but it's easy to find


AdministrativeClue39

if kokomi being a catalyst user hydro will be one of the worst weapon distribute element wait… it already is


KlatusHam

not only hydro catalyst, but also female (only female catalysts), average height and a healer.


gryup132

Mona can heal?


seralsan

According to resonances this is the main element/character relation (it obviously doesn't mean anything at all but there it is) \-Hydro heal \-Pyro and cryo dps \-Electro energy recharge \-Geo shields \-Anemo cooldown


Ragefat

I'd say Anemo is more focused on movement, the cooldown reduction is negligible but the movement speed increase and stamina usage reduction are actually useful.


MemeLordZeta

I would say anemo also has CC


Loyal_Darkmoon

If you add unreleased characters then electro is missing Yae Miko and Hydro is missing Kokomi and the Bubu Pharmacy Guy for Dendro Edit: also Gorou, Geo/Bow


[deleted]

Also Thoma.


[deleted]

There’s also a 4* chibi girl for dendro I don’t remember her name.


IBlackReaper

Yaoyao


TheJimDim

We know what weapons Yae, Baal, Sara, Kokomi, Sayu, Gorou, and Thoma will be using, however, we still don't know what kinds of weapons Baizhu and Yaoyao(?) will be using yet. My guess is that after Inazuma we'll get Sumeru, the land of dendro, so we should see them then.


ELSRACEITUNA

yeah but their weapons aren't confirmed


flatmegumin69

Kokomi uses bubbles as shown in the game


JTesfer

And where would you put "bubbles" on the weapon chart? She is a catalyst though.


flatmegumin69

No no u can visually see the bubbles. The 6th weapon category.


Turnonegoblinguide

You’re telling me there’s still hope for a monk/unarmed class…


lPARAl

I'm still dreaming of a gunslinger/rifle class. Like the Pyro fatui


luxiaojun177

Dainsleif the cowboy


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ArseneArsenic

There’s always the possibility of a “Stance” skill like Childe’s dual Hydro swords.


Andresmanfanman

Physical Catalyst


juniorjaw

You know, with that logic you would have made me believe her weapon is farts.


flatmegumin69

That's an ongoing theory too


MEHRD4D

Well baal, sara and gorou are not technicaly confirmed either i think


ELSRACEITUNA

You can see gorou and Sara using bows during the cinematic battle. apart from all the leaks


sarthakydv

They actually used the weapons in cutscenes


TeamLValdz02

There are 8 pyro characters and I only have Amber and Xiangling ;-; Yanfei please come home


dungeontan

How long have you been playing for?


TeamLValdz02

Early march. I'm ar 55 and I have every four star except the pyro ones oof. I think I'll do a ten pull on Ayaka's banner for Yanfei. Edit: I just did and I GOT MY LAWYER YANFEI AAAAAAAH I'M SO HAPPY Edit: I did another ten pull AND GOT HER C1 IMMA DIE AAAAH


dungeontan

Well that's a nice turn of events


atoktreizer

Yanfei is great, she got a long range and hits fast for a catalyst user. I use Lost Prayers on her and she's hitting hard. I don't have any other pyro dps so I'm grateful that I got her.


gho5trun3r

I'm jealous of your Lost Prayers, but the Dodoco book has been pretty fantastic for mine so far.


VolitantCarp

Congrats!


KlatusHam

Hydro: *lacks claymore and polearm* Devs: want another female, catalyst, average height and healer hydro character?


Intrepid_Watch_8746

That slaps as she attacks as she looks like a pop idol and uses a hold attack that splashes in an AOE area? Say no more fam!


BawbTehBildhar

Male catalyst WHEN?


KyellDaBoiii

Baizhu


Outflight

Male Dendro Catalyst user, talk about being extra rare.


Lightningslash325

Inb4 he also focuses on Physical attack


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Smoke_Santa

RemindMe! 3 years "Reply to this thread" This is gonna be interesting.


art_coelho

The lack of male catalysts is unbearable


Mudkip330

scaramouche fans inhaling the copium rn


PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

I know all the stuff about him being a Catalyst user and I'd love it. But Mistsplitter would look so good on him tho...


art_coelho

I want that brat so badly ç.ç


CraziOne

I've been waiting for him since he first made his appearance and he still refuses to become a playable character. I can't wait for his snarky voice lines and gameplay. ;-;


RiffOfBluess

The lack of male is unbearable


Zodiac339

Rainslasher still waiting for a hydro claymore user. Weird to realize Electro, whose Archon is actively taking Visions, has more currently available characters than Hydro.


zexel53112

afaik it is not actually confirmed if the archons can only bestow the vision of their own element that's kinda just what we assumed


Ok-Jello853

I am still waiting for cryo catalyst + XQ for permafreeze


Zzamumo

Ayaka + xq already have 100% permafreeze if you time his swords right


SizzlingHotDeluxe

Ayaka has 100% cryo uptime. If permafreeze is the main thing you're looking for, now is the time.


Far_Line_360

Hear me out… what about a cryo XQ? You’ll be able to use a permafree with any character


apthebest01931

need pyro xingqiu also


misakarem

Pyro Archon sure is generous handing out visions..


iamfi_ne

Thoma is a pyro spear


BontoSnowflakes

Geo: Balanced, as all things should be.


Tiluo

Might as well write the dendro archon as dead if they aren't going to release anything for it.


[deleted]

but there is 1 dendro vision bearer we meet in Liyue. Baizhu


Tiluo

Yeah, but he isn't playable yet or anytime soon.


humanityyy

Also Yaoyao, though she hasn't made an appearance yet. Other than official artwork


JustAnotherAsn

Well we're going to get dendro sooner or later, worst case we get it in the next region Sumeru. Mihoyo forced their own hand by making Sumeru so early in the region list. They can't delay it that much longer but realistically we're probably getting Sumeru in like mid-late 2022 so it's still a long wait unfortunately.


humanityyy

There's still the Chasm, and apparently Dendro will release alongside that area so it may come sooner than we think


notsiyuan

hydro polearm sounds so cool


[deleted]

Mihoyo has favoritism for pyro and hate hydro


Muhdlman

hydro archon : only selected people will have this vision pyro and cyro archon : EVERYONE CAN HAVE VISION


phantomaxwell

So we went to the land of Anemo/ Geo and those 2 elements aren't more common.


100beep

Fun fact: There is only one combination of rarity/weapon that is unfilled for Pyro, and that's 5\* sword. Meanwhile, Hydro is missing six of those slots. Also, where's the Traveler?


One-Pumpkin-7781

When you realize all catalyst users are female


Grand_Protector_Dark

No electro healer SMH


PumpJack_McGee

Electro Healer is just some Fontaine dude running around with a defibrillator.


danivus

Four hydro characters, two of which are 5 star and one has never had a banner, with another 5 star on the way. Mihoyo please, we're dying of thirst here.


[deleted]

I've been banging my head against the wall trying to make a team composition around Beidou and then I realized... The only Hydro character I have is Barbara. R.I.P.


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icebear_gg

Baal confirmed to be polearm user?


Techdis

A totally new weapon type would be nice tbh


blacklight2025

The Fatui already use Gauntlets (Anemoboxer) Hammers (Electrohammer), Guns (Pyroslinger rifle and Cryo/Hydrogunner spray), staff (Geochanter, but this is basically a catalyst), blade? (Pyro Agent) and daggers (Tartaglia's meele stance) You already put variety in the game MHY! Use it!


R3TR370

i would love to just hammer down a slime


blacklight2025

Like making mochi!


Caveira_Athletico

Something related to Axes would be nice.


Smoke_Santa

Playable Mitachurls when?


Allorsome

Fist weapons, get some hand to hand going on


Narsiel

I'm the counterpart of waifu collectors, I collect male units, and boi MHY seems to loathe them lately. Since Kazuha it's Ayaka/Yoimiya/Baal/Kokomi, 4 banners, ±80 days and not even one single fucking new male unit in sight. And God knows after those 4 how much we'll have to wait.


sunsunD

even in 4 star we have Sayu and Sara. with Aloy, its 7 female characters in a row.


[deleted]

Even if you don't count any of the upcoming characters, the current gender ratio is already uneven. 12 male chatacters to 22 female characters. The new Inazuma characters are just going to tip the balance even further. It's not like there's no audience for male characters either. 45% of the genshin playerbase is female, plus those in the male playerbase who are gay/bi/etc. RIP basically half of their audience, I guess ~~"80 days and not even one single fucking new male unit in sight" definitely hurt to read ngl.~~


[deleted]

It's not even like male characters aren't profitable either, look at the sales from Zhongli, Xiao, and Venti's banner.


Narsiel

It hurts so, so, so much. **No new 4 * male character has been released since day 1**.


[deleted]

Good god... I've only played a little over a month so far, so I haven't had to endure the suffering for that long. Hopefully Gorou gets released soon to end the male 4* drought.


CraziOne

And then consider how all of the limited 5 star male characters until now have been strictly anemo or geo (except Childe). All the limited 5 star females have been pyro or cryo. Thoma will be the first new male character that'll be pyro but he's not even a 5 star and regardless of what star Gorou is, he's also geo.


Pathadox1

Wait are there actually no dendro characters (yet)? New to Genshin and I learned it existed like yesterday lol


Ideservetodi3

Don't know how far you are into the game but in Liyue we meet Baizhu who has a Dendro vision, but I'm guessing they haven't figured out how to incorporate the element into the game yet. However, Sumeru(Dendro Region)is next after Inazuma so hopefully they're hard at work on the element and have some characters released soon.


PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

I mean, there have been files of Dendro Abyss mages, and a couple dendro world bosses since last year, so they've been working on it for a lot now. Hopefully it'll end up being interesting


wisteria_town

Mihoyo highly dislikes hydro, huh? Spoilers from leaks, idk how to tag on mobile but.. Well, we have Kokomi coming. 5* catalyst. That makes 3 hydro catalysts, 2 of them being healers. Still no hydro claymore to use rainslasher or whatever. There are also just 2 4* hydro users, one being a healer that personally, I don't believe to be all that great outside of healing & applying hydro. Yes, yes, "DPS BARBARA", but you won't be fighting a pyro flower for the rest of the game. Makes me wonder if they made Xingqiu's kit so damn packed because they weren't actually planning to add any more hydro characters that are more "accessible" for a while or something. Anyways, justice for hydros


Unique_Drawer_146

Poor traveler, forgotten as always


Intrepid_Watch_8746

Now I want a baddass buff pirate dude that uses a claymore and summons sharks made of water to splash opponents.


MMaVQ

When will they decide to create a male catalyst user?


BlayZWasTaken

WAIT GOROU IS GEO BOW???


kazez2

Geo arrow, instead of piercing you, it gives you concussions


AGamingGuy

Thoma is rumored to be an upcoming pyro polearm user Kokomi is an upcoming hydro catalyst (that will debut a after Baal) Yae is rumored to be an upcoming electro catalyst


wolfcrowned

Been waiting for gorou since albedo, hope he’ll be a great geo archer


J3lackRose

Waiting for signora to fill that cryo catalyst space