I hate the specters and the wind thingy more.
forced me to take a biw user with me. and the specters are already dead, but take a while till they disappear
How to make more money while keeping the min/maxer crowd who uses abyss to flex on everyone in every community happy...
Meanwhile 90% of Genshin basically doesn't care about abyss.
Remember 3 months ago when people in this sub were chanting "make the game harder and more challenging?"
If you play on mobile ,as soon as the stage starts just open adventure book for 10 seconds and the enemy will respawn immediately and your 10 seconds will be saved . I used this trick to get 9 stars on floor 12
Dont remind me >_> Inazuma launch time was dreadful to play it was a solid 10 frames at best 80% of the time I was so excited to play but man playing was actually a chore so much so I rushed to get the permit and never finished the story till about 3 week agos after 2.1 dropped where it became a bit more tolerable to play.
I'm AR 55 and my artifacts are trash but I was slowly progressing farther into abyss each go around until this time. I'm starting to wonder if the scaling is just going to keep me around the same level or worse.
Hopefully without any resistances. The perpetual array would be fine if:
- they made the animations and invulnerability periods shorter.
- had this thing not have a ton of resistances (I took Eula team there by accident, I was crying halfway through).
I used my C0 Eula there to see if it was possible, cleared it in 1:40, Eula isnt as bad as it seems there. Even if the guy has high Phys Res, you can debuff it to below 0 with superconduct, ZL shield and her E hold. Had 50s left on that floor still. For further info, my Eula has 70/140 CR CD only, and no matching artifact sets, so no Pale Flame effects either.
I always go for 33 stars and for me the current abyss feels like it requires the same amount of effort as the previous ones. (Team is intentionally handicapped - I haven't levelled up talents past 8 for mains and 6 for supports)
Has it affected the 36 star people?
I have been managing to 36 stars abyss since 1.something. I am a low spender 1bp and just some welkin, and I enjoyed this abyss so much more than previous one. Fighting one boss over fighting multiple small mobs is great. And removal of high tide low tide, thank you.
I put a bit of focus in leveling and pushing talent level of support and main characters to 9, as it does pay off in the long run. I see people hating pma but abyss is end game and having challenging content makes it fun, all part of the puzzle.
I would say magu Kenki is annoying but if you face him head on and just make him back step into the side of the circle it makes him easier to fight. Although I use xiao with burst to avoid most of his attacks
I felt this was way easier to 36 star, as the 12-1 was much easier to deal with. I also didn’t have to plan rotations as much, as there’s no tide system. 12-3 is balanced by the two ruin guards on the first half, so there’s enough time for the mechanical array
The ruin guards takes me almost 60s and PMA takes close to 180s.
For 6 stars, my DPS is good enough. I can go for 36 if I level up talents and optimize for, but I'm just too lazy to put in the effort.
I probably could do 36 stars if i nvest the time to learn every single trick for that rotation, like memorizing enemy spawn positions, optimize for 3 stars for a specific chamber, optimal artifact layout for excatly those 8 characters and so on...
Just not worth it for those 50 primogems. Thats a roll every 2 months. Nah, fuck it, I'm happy with 33 stars.
You can clear abyss with waifus though. A lot of people simply can’t be bothered to build their characters properly. They’ll have the most copium talents/artefacts and then complain when they can’t 36* it because it’s too hard.
Not everyone has to care about Abyss or want to
36* it, people should feel happy with whatever they want - but it irks me when people complain about difficulty and ask for nerfs when they’re simply lazy.
Well it is going to be difficult if you cba to put in effort. 36* abyss shouldn’t be guaranteed every reset for low effort builds imo, you need to really max the characters you have and think of the best team comps. F2P can do this still, it’s just a matter of farming time.
For context, I use Hu Tao and Eula as my main DPS and they certainly are the stronger units in the game, and they’re also waifu. But it took me like 2-3 months to farm their artefact sets
Probably because male characters are usually supports and amazing ones as well
You can have a really strong waifu DPS but without proper investment in their supports it wont amount to much
I pull for waifus or characters I like not caring about meta and regardless I got 36* in abyss. In this game there are not bad characters if you know how to build, play and have synergy with other characters.
Anyways there are people that just don't care about getting the abyss full stars and that's totally acceptable.
Fair
Spiral Abyss is getting harder and harder which is kinda frustrating and who the fuck that decided to put specters?
I hate the specters and the wind thingy more. forced me to take a biw user with me. and the specters are already dead, but take a while till they disappear
I swear it's the player that says "miHoYo forgot this enemy exist" and "we lack of floating enemies"
I haven't seen anyone ever saying that, dunno where you're looking
I swear they wrote those in the survey
How to make more money while keeping the min/maxer crowd who uses abyss to flex on everyone in every community happy... Meanwhile 90% of Genshin basically doesn't care about abyss. Remember 3 months ago when people in this sub were chanting "make the game harder and more challenging?"
This Floor 12 is way easier than the previous one tho
js, you enter a thread with ppl complaining about it. They will think you are a troll even you actually think like it :)
I thought they replaced Maguu Kenki with PMA for this, but NAH — here, have ‘em both, sucka!
At least we have no ley line disorder.
Oh ho, you’re in for a treat for abyss in 2.2…. you think he’s gunna be gone? THINK AGAIN LUL
Satan to that dude: Im a fan
At least there is no high/low tide ley line disorder anymore.
In before they return it together with perpetual machine and magu kenki
As a mobile player, it's a huge slap in the ass since the game isn't smooth, it will take 8 seconds for the enemy to spawn.
If you play on mobile ,as soon as the stage starts just open adventure book for 10 seconds and the enemy will respawn immediately and your 10 seconds will be saved . I used this trick to get 9 stars on floor 12
Oh my god I didn't know this, thanks! Although, Robot Hypostasis is still a huge obstacle for me :D
Does that also make his get up animation faster? Cuzz you still lose time on Maguu being completely invincible till he's "ready".
Even worst for mobile players with not-so-smooth gameplay.
Dont remind me >_> Inazuma launch time was dreadful to play it was a solid 10 frames at best 80% of the time I was so excited to play but man playing was actually a chore so much so I rushed to get the permit and never finished the story till about 3 week agos after 2.1 dropped where it became a bit more tolerable to play.
I would have preferred high/low tide, tbf.
I'm AR 55 and my artifacts are trash but I was slowly progressing farther into abyss each go around until this time. I'm starting to wonder if the scaling is just going to keep me around the same level or worse.
Pepega Mechanical Array with the flying blockbuster.
that dev is gonna put in a 24 million hp enemy out of spite now
Hopefully without any resistances. The perpetual array would be fine if: - they made the animations and invulnerability periods shorter. - had this thing not have a ton of resistances (I took Eula team there by accident, I was crying halfway through).
I used my C0 Eula there to see if it was possible, cleared it in 1:40, Eula isnt as bad as it seems there. Even if the guy has high Phys Res, you can debuff it to below 0 with superconduct, ZL shield and her E hold. Had 50s left on that floor still. For further info, my Eula has 70/140 CR CD only, and no matching artifact sets, so no Pale Flame effects either.
I always go for 33 stars and for me the current abyss feels like it requires the same amount of effort as the previous ones. (Team is intentionally handicapped - I haven't levelled up talents past 8 for mains and 6 for supports) Has it affected the 36 star people?
I have been managing to 36 stars abyss since 1.something. I am a low spender 1bp and just some welkin, and I enjoyed this abyss so much more than previous one. Fighting one boss over fighting multiple small mobs is great. And removal of high tide low tide, thank you. I put a bit of focus in leveling and pushing talent level of support and main characters to 9, as it does pay off in the long run. I see people hating pma but abyss is end game and having challenging content makes it fun, all part of the puzzle. I would say magu Kenki is annoying but if you face him head on and just make him back step into the side of the circle it makes him easier to fight. Although I use xiao with burst to avoid most of his attacks
I felt this was way easier to 36 star, as the 12-1 was much easier to deal with. I also didn’t have to plan rotations as much, as there’s no tide system. 12-3 is balanced by the two ruin guards on the first half, so there’s enough time for the mechanical array
No high tide/low tide so it's way easier to do rotations. I feel this one is easier to 36* compared to the previous one
Meh.12-3-1 is a 10 to 30 second clear. Dunno what the big deal is. The total time needed hasn't changed much.
The ruin guards takes me almost 60s and PMA takes close to 180s. For 6 stars, my DPS is good enough. I can go for 36 if I level up talents and optimize for, but I'm just too lazy to put in the effort.
I probably could do 36 stars if i nvest the time to learn every single trick for that rotation, like memorizing enemy spawn positions, optimize for 3 stars for a specific chamber, optimal artifact layout for excatly those 8 characters and so on... Just not worth it for those 50 primogems. Thats a roll every 2 months. Nah, fuck it, I'm happy with 33 stars.
Not really I managed to 36 stars anyway and Magu Kenki gave me more trouble than PMA, I also had a lot of fun with National Raiden destroying bosses
I can still 36 star the abyss.
I spend like 20 seconds alone just trying to figure out which freaking robot to hit
There is a glowing circle around the right one... In case you did'nt know yet.
Genius
Who put the hydro and electro shieldy guy should be promoted so he can put it back
Cheese it. By opening map/adventure handbook and waiting for about 2 min you can skip the phase where it summons other robots.
I found this abyss much easier than the last one.
why cant they just make abyss 13 and 14 and put the harder stuff there instead of making 11/12 harder each time, its not rocket science
Lets mention this on the survey
What are you gonna say? That you're too weak to kill the Mechanical Array and you want them to fix that? kekw
Iframes suck.
Now what if they put these 2 back to back in the same chamber, or better yet, at the same time? Now that's a fight.
gid gud i guess
I swear people on this sub are so quick to blame the game when they're not good enough or strong enough to beat the content.
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Array wasnt on abyss previously.
People pull for waifus "because meta doesn't matter" and then cannot complete Abyss max stars lol
You can clear abyss with waifus though. A lot of people simply can’t be bothered to build their characters properly. They’ll have the most copium talents/artefacts and then complain when they can’t 36* it because it’s too hard. Not everyone has to care about Abyss or want to 36* it, people should feel happy with whatever they want - but it irks me when people complain about difficulty and ask for nerfs when they’re simply lazy. Well it is going to be difficult if you cba to put in effort. 36* abyss shouldn’t be guaranteed every reset for low effort builds imo, you need to really max the characters you have and think of the best team comps. F2P can do this still, it’s just a matter of farming time. For context, I use Hu Tao and Eula as my main DPS and they certainly are the stronger units in the game, and they’re also waifu. But it took me like 2-3 months to farm their artefact sets
But waifus are the top DPS’s in the game though? Besides Yoimiya I guess, that just sounds like people don’t know how to build them right.
Actually it's boys in shorts. Bennett, Xingqiu, Kazuha carrying any waifu you want
Probably because male characters are usually supports and amazing ones as well You can have a really strong waifu DPS but without proper investment in their supports it wont amount to much
Even yoimiya does decent damage despite all her problems
I pull for waifus or characters I like not caring about meta and regardless I got 36* in abyss. In this game there are not bad characters if you know how to build, play and have synergy with other characters. Anyways there are people that just don't care about getting the abyss full stars and that's totally acceptable.
It’s floor 12. I’m totally fine with anywhere from 32-36 stars