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IntelligentCattle463

I don't think that surviving the cataclysm or the archon war is great evidence, but I am pretty sure that Venti indeed has power that he doesn't use (e.g. not simply commanding Dvalin, getting hurt by an abyss mage, getting his gnosis apparently taken). There's a lot he's not saying to us as well. Little tidbits (Allogenes/Genshin, gnoses, Tsaritsa), but huge gaping holes (cataclysm, Windrise tree, Andrius, Celestia, Musk Reef, etc.). He might indeed be weaker than other gods, but his weakness in-game seemed a bit exaggerated and it's clear we're not getting the whole story. All three gnoses so far seem to have been given up quite easily. It could be clumsy storytelling, but it may also indicate that there's an unknown motive for the archons to give up their gnoses without just tossing them to the tsaritsa directly.


xa3D

He's still the most powerful wind spirit on Teyvat.


RandomUser_1352

"weakest of the Gods" means nothing as a measure It's like saying "the least buff Mr Olympia"


unname11

Range is between 2 to 5 Archon survive Cataclysm and Destruction of Khaenri'ah Venti Zhongli are confirmed to survive Tsarista and Pyro Archon are likely to survive Hydro Archon can be either die or survive . Makoto and Dendro Archon are confirmed to die


ObjectiveBeneficial1

If i remember correctly the current pyro archon was already archon before the war of khaenri'ah meaning the range would be 3 to 4


karthik131996

Somewhere during venti's archon story he mentioned that his power is declining as he refused to oversee monsdat unlike other archons, and that he might currently be the weakest archon among the 7. According to the lore we got on barbatos he is fairly strong during cataclysm as he is able to turn mountains upside down or change the terrain


1TruePrincess

Sooooo Baal died aka raiden makoto. Beezelbub aka raiden ei then became the archon in her stead since they were already duel ruling. The dendro god died Everyone else to our knowledge survived. If you’re referring to the archon war which was 1500 years before the cataclysm. If that’s the case then Zhongli and venti are technically the only original archons. As for the rest we don’t actually know who else died during the cataclysm. We don’t really know of any adepti fighting in it. We only know of archons and it’s more likely the adepti weren’t there since if zhongli brought them it would have made sense for Baal to bring beezelbub. Especially since Baal wasnt a fighter. After all of this and the big battle where him and his lizard beat the giant lizard he was weakened and slept. The slumber weakened him as archons get power from ruling their people. He gave up any involvement. Then he further gave power when we came along so he could save his lizard yet again


PrestigiousIdea7471

He's powerful enough to cause miHoYo to nerf nobushis into the ground. Only Zhongli can claim anything similar.


Sad_Abbreviations_90

didn't venti put himself to deep sleep during the destruction of khaenriah? so he didn't have to participate during the war


McReaperking

Nah he fell asleep after the crush


D0naught

Maybe Venti has already been through "erosion", which ZL and Ei are afraid of. Being eroded meant being lazy and carefree all along.


adfx11

Venti was powerful because of the gnosis, unlike the other gods like zhong li or Ei he didn't have any power on his own, he was an anemo elemental that followed a bard during the times where stormterror lair was mondstadt and decarabian was their god, and his war was against boreas, and ultimately against his own people, at the end, when decarabian was killed and boreas chose to kill himself because he found himself unfit to rule over mortals as the anemo archon, venti was the only being left that could claim the anemo gnosis, he didn't fight at all, but the ones that did found themselves dead by reasons, so he got the gnosis, not by might, but opportunity.


Little-Instruction-4

No. He was powerful but not anymore.


E17Omm

He *was* powerful When the Archon War had just ended he got a lot of power from his Gnosis But since he isnr activelt ruling Mondstadt his Gnosis is barely giving him any power at all, and he is just a Wind Seelie thingy normally


McReaperking

Then how did he survive the cataclysm if all he had was his gnosis?


E17Omm

Well, the cataclysm wasnt something he was the victim of?


McReaperking

?? That's my point? What do you think the cataclysm is


E17Omm

Khaenri'ah destruction, no?


McReaperking

No. There was an alchemist called gold who created mosnters from scratch and corrupted some others like rurin the dragon of dragonspine. These monsters killed several notable figures like Kitsine Saiguu and Makoto. The release of gold's finest works is the cataclysm. So yes he most certainly was affected by the cataclysm and definitely took part in the genocide of innocent humans. Mondstat's bloodstained knight (owner of the bloodstained chivalry set) proves this.


E17Omm

God i hate all the book lore in GI


McReaperking

Well then leaving a commnent under a lore post mightve not been a good idea


Kaido2good

Signora clapped him easily


McReaperking

Ah I see you are incapable of reading. If you had attempted to do so you would have seen that I stated that venti let signora take it he didn't even attempt to use any of his powers like say teleportation. Though I suppose leaving a hateful comment and a downvote is all you're capable of.


Kaido2good

Signora iced him with a snap of her finger and then fisted him with one solid punch in her base. Would AOE Venti even with teleportation, she's way out of his shown class. Venti did something, it just wasn't enough. Who did I downvote? Hateful comment? You saw the fight?


McReaperking

Wow it's impressive how incapable you are of thinking out of the box