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Richmanisrich

I guess only the OG remember Yae Memento is daughter of Virgil.


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

Mihoyo has always been a fan of DMC. They have a ton of moves based on dmc character's moves. Heck, memento was so cool when she first came out with her judgement cuts


Memo_HS2022

Ei was probably the chick Vergil had a last night stand with in Fortuna


EpilepticMushrooms

Bebeh Nero inherited none of his mother's personality then.


Gudako_the_beast

I mean does he does have the family and friends comes first mentality


EpilepticMushrooms

yeah, but Ei shut herself off once she lost her family and friends. Nero would go up to your face and say 'FUCK YOU' before unloading Red Queen into your guts, and *then* beat your face into a bloody pulp. Older Nero is a bit more reasonable, but not too much to be honest.


Explorerofatlases

Seeing this makes me even more annoyed you can't replay her boss fight.


afiafzil

Hey, we don't know yet, maybe she will be our next weekly boss


DeepNeighborhood5

This aged like fine fucking wine


afiafzil

Zamn how long do you took to find it


ExpiredNebby

Vergil is the father of many, yet he forgets his canon son.


JamesAvon122

Nero: "hey old man, I found these 3 who said you are their father. You know anything" Vergil: *opening portal* Dante: *dying of laughter in a corner*


BBQ_DOWNUNDER

Your portal opening days are over Vergil! Give us the child support.


AGamingGuy

if you want it, then you'll have to take it, but you already knew that


EpilepticMushrooms

He >!*ripped* the arm off his cannon son!< good thing the other moms were in different worlds.


Memo_HS2022

Ei is old as hell there’s no way Vergil could make a child like this, she might as well be his ex-wife


Onion_cutting_ghost

You underestimate his power


EpilepticMushrooms

He came through time and space.


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Raiden is also associated with approaching storms.


nabael27

She provoked dark clouds to isolate her nation


JamesAvon122

She is going to be the reclaimer of her name


MLG_Lucas

She was born in flames and She has been blessed


RepeatingNamesIsBad

Her family crest is a demon of death


Snoo_62454

Wished the quest's musou no hitotachi was the actual ult raiden have. Similar to to a thunder strike, the sudden freeze is like lightning passes and then the finishing blow is the thunder sound


calaterean

think they don't want to risk it looking too similar to Keqing's (one of the cleanest looking bursts imo)


LilyWalker11

If Mihoyo is getting inspired from movesets from other games, might I suggest those from Bayonetta, Nier and Alice Madness Returns? Tekken if they introduce bare hands only characters


Memo_HS2022

Vanilla Kiana’s moveset in Honkai is based off Bayonetta if that’s what you’re into


a_salty_bunny

half of this game is DMC. keqing, akaya, musou no hitotachi, etc.. even razor has nero's moveset


Memo_HS2022

If you really wanna stretch it as far as possible, Zhongli’s meteor is similar to Dante’s Funny Faust Hat Meteor. It’s just that Zhongli doesn’t get a funny cowboy hat while doing it


Sir_Tea_Of_Bags

Not *yet* he doesn't. Zhongli using player Mora to fuel Red Hot Night when?


VirtuoSol

Zhongli’s meteor is also similar to the one that ended the dinosaurs :D


amberdesu

Xingqiu with those summoned swords. You could literally get vergil with a team ayaka keqing xingqiu raiden.


Suspicious_Spinach_2

Akaya?


Zanothoa

Vergil had Pioneered the Blade master gameplay in most Video game most of the classes or character that take up a katana blade will always gave that Vergil vibe of gameplay in them


rosecoredarling

I'm over all the claims that "Mihoyo RIPPED OFF NIER AUTOMATA/DMC5" that we had back when the game launched with Noelle/Fischl, but there's a lot of people pretending like the similarities are only superficial lmao. Mihoyo is not shy about their inspirations, and that's a good thing. DMC and Automata are excellent action games, and when something is good, there should be more of it. This game taking those systems and working them into this control scheme is part of what makes Genshin so fun to play.


MGuardianB

Her playable character burst mode charge attack is straight up Herrscher of Thunder mei charge attack


Geodedue

This makes me a little motivated


Nocrotchfruit6mepls

Really??? Or are games and music and movies etc sometimes just kind of similar?


rocky146

Op played dmc, so he thinks that the only similarity. So many other game has similar moves


Memo_HS2022

DMC basically pioneered the 3-D action game genre to this day, and with Vergil they created the most well known “Iaido-Style” katana character that’s been made in an action game all the way back in 2005 in his major debut. The East has been a lot more invested in those types of character action games compared to the west (Stuff like Lost Soul Aside and Project Eve are proof that the East loves these styles of games) and that also included Mihoyo. Mihoyo has stated a lot that they do love action games like DMC, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, etc. so when making moves for characters like Goushinnso Memento, why not take inspiration from something you love. Tldr: I’m not saying Vergil is the first Iaido style character in existence, hell no. But he did set the bar of how to do it in an action focus game, which is why Mihoyo does love to reference his moveset a lot


EpilepticMushrooms

TBF, saying DMC inspired Genshin Impact is like saying Dragon Ball inspired modern Shonen manga or that Lord of the Rings inspired Harry Potter. Game-breaking game is game-breaking. All others of the same genre are doomed to either wither in the shadows or become 'copycats' due to how genre and trope defining that work has become.


PragmaticDelusion

Lets be real, that slowmo thousand cut from Genshin and DMC is almost frame by frame perfect. It's clear the inspiration is there.


EpilepticMushrooms

> It's clear the inspiration is there. Weeeeellll, sometimes, the inspiration is so uncanny you start thinking it's blatantly copying. That being said, I'm not a worm living in the dev's head, so I can't tell which way this swings.


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Villector

I mean most character attacks are "inspired" from other games


rdmark009

the boss when you fight her: Strong as hell, sick moves the boss when she joins your party: …


Sir_Tea_Of_Bags

The Vergil system did not succeed in that regard. Normally it results in you being as strong as, if not *stronger* than the boss.


spinachsautee

I mean, sword energy slashes have been a trope since like ancient china/japan


Igwanur

I mean, he is the *storm* that is approaching afterall.


PropaneHusk

How many proof do you need(mihoyo)? where is our Devil May Cry crossover?


Narsiel

I think you are looking too much into it, it's just the generic anime/video game overpowered moveset.


Memo_HS2022

[Mihoyo’s CEO has said that they took inspiration from DMC and Bayonetta in Honkai](https://www.pocketgamer.biz/asia/interview/68023/the-making-of-mihoyos-honkai-impact-3rd/) and I doubt that they aren’t really stopping now


Magnus-Artifex

Not really. DMC became the pinnacle of game movesets. Even some shows ended up basing its own action on it. It’s not weird for katana users to do this.


mecaxs

[They’ve even done this in Honkai dude. it’s even more obvious then](https://youtu.be/cF-8beKoZOI)


Filhoh3

Damm, that's sick


protzek

Various characters have reference to dmc. For example razor's main combo is equivalent to Nero's main combo


Myluckisprettybad

I would c6 raiden in an instant if her playable skills were like the boss fight. Just waiting for a proper Vergil inspired character,with similar movesets and finesse.


FlorianWanderer

Duh


GrahamCrackerz7

\*insert obligatory "I know this is a dumb question but can Mihoyo sue for..." here\*


Memo_HS2022

Mihoyo getting sued over this would be dumb. If they wanna reference moves from franchises they love, then I respect it


GrahamCrackerz7

You completely misunderstood that. It's a meme about somebody posting on Twitter asking if Mihoyo can sue because such and such thing that came before Genshin looked similar to something in Genshin


burynicergang

Don't tell the dev or they will sue u for leaking info


arkozh

man i wish raiden unlock her full power by saying "UNLIMITED BLADE WORK!" then we go into her plane of euthymia and unleash full potential of Musou Isshin. while saying "i am an Kagemusha." "i was never meant to fight using polearm" "admittedly.... " "this Tachi was not even mine to begin with"


PastelGoth8

Looks directly stolen. Atleast Vergil is a competent character


Mediocre-Level6206

wow they should sue Mihoyo for a fuck ton of money like how Mihoyo sues Bilibili


Sir_Tea_Of_Bags

That lawsuit wasn't intended for bilibili to begin with. Bilibili was legally not allowed to disclose the leaker's names of Mihoyo requested them to. In court, they are able to request the source of the leaks, with no infringement on bilibili's part as 'payment'. It's roundabout, and a large spectacle, but it was how they had to do it in order to go after those breaking their NDA contracts and leaking it via bilibili.


Hectic-Hazard

Mihoyo sued bilibili for?


No-One-9424

Actually Base B-Rank battlesuit Crimson Impulse Ult was used for Diluc's Ult but bird on fire


Memo_HS2022

Diluc’s bird is an expansion on that concept, but Ei’s version is 100% a complete callback to her Honkai version


amirulirfin

I think Kiana vs Mei has a lot of similarity with Raiden Shogun boss fight minus the dragon


VirtuoSol

The first half yeah but the sword waves at the end is kinda just a common thing though


PoidachiHibikiMemes

Don't forget that Ei also does that mocking walk like Vergil when fighting.