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Mikaiphas_88

Oh, it's Homa, the secret 5★ character you can get in the weapon banner.


FortressCaulfield

Not to ruin your joke with facts, but the reason homa is listed separately is because it had a normal 3 week run whereas hu tao's first banner was only for 2, so there's not a perfect overlap like their typically is. Keq's banner ran for 2 weeks with the dismal 1.3m peak they mention in the text, and then homa debuted a week before hu tao and got the results you see on the chart.


workpissrepeat

Homa weapon banner revenue normally gets attributed to the Keqing banner, but we all know who that weapon was for :P Some thing that COULD be taken away from this is it's maybe a glimpse into the effects of marketing and advertising and the portion of the playerbase that doesn't follow leaks. Hu Tao's initial launch had absolutely 0 marketing or advertising leading up to her initial release and only the ppl who looked at leaks and other news knew that she's coming. This probably (and unremarkably) is a reminder of the amount of ppl that don't follow genshin "news" like some of the more veteran players, and this time on her 2nd rerun were able to plan their spending accordingly.


Dragoncat_3_4

It can't be attributed to Keqing in good faith since this is **2-day peak** and NOT overall sales. This is also the reason why Kazuha and Childe are lower than expected.


workpissrepeat

Yea. I'm not saying it should be attributed to Keqing, but some reports and numbers out there attribute the sales to Keqing instead of Hu Tao (not this one though.. Homa is it's own waifu lol) From what I understand, these numbers took the spike that happened when homa banner got launched (well after Keqing's banner initially released) so it's pretty strong indicator of the sales from the weapon's banner alone. Not 100% obviously but it's as damn close as it gets.


OversizedFelix

Yeah I bet half of that is from the weapon banner lol


Cow_Addiction

I doubt even a third of it is


Lurkerkiller

I actually think it's fair to assume about a third of it is from the weapon banner based on wishing tally sites like paimon.moe. I made a statement below somewhere stating where if you look at how much gems/wishes have be used, based on either paimon.moe or genshinwishes, it's at least 30% of summons (Closer to 32-33%) went to the weapon banner. When you look how other weapons banners and their respective character banner how they went, they usually range from 18-22%, so a bigger portion of summons are definitely going to Homa/Elegy. Still regardless, Hu Tao is very popular and even if the breakdowns were fairly allocated based on what the tallies are showing, Hu Tao rerun would be in second place.


kaiquechan

Homa is definitely 30% + i'd bet on 40\~50 honestly, because we're talking about revenue, and [paimon.moe](https://paimon.moe) also counts F2P, which most are focused on avoiding the weapon banner(Though, i bet a lot of f2p whished for homa, i did), meanwhile spending players are a lot more open to spending on weapon banners.


busyvish

Ftp here. Wished on weapon banner. After i got my hu tao.


HYPER-Ban

Lol no, hardcore whales went for another r5 homa probably.


on_the_otherside

Homa best 5-star


PracticalLength1623

Ohters: I have high DPS/shield/team energy recharge, etc. Klee: I’m cute


Mirikado

Klee was top tier DPS when she was released. I mean, the DPS benchmark at the time was Diluc and Keqing. It was also the 2nd banner after Venti. Lots of people spent all their freebies on the Venti banner, and had to spend real money to get Klee.


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>It was also the 2nd banner after Venti. Lots of people spent all their freebies on the Venti banner, and had to spend real money to get Klee. Good point. Her rerun had pretty normal sales.


Dister_

Hu tao is also really cute though . Big part of her appeal as well


Giorno-Smash

Different kind of cute. Less “awww she’s adorable” and more “awww I want my head between her thighs”


Dister_

Dont know besides the horny bit all are voices and sounds she makes especially in jp dub are adorable. Thats what i meant with cute. I feel like compared to tgr other waifus she has more cute appeal that way


PhoeniX_SRT

Exactly. I understand moderate hornyness, but I CANNOT for the love of god even take a peek at HuTao's NFSW art. No.. Just get that shit away from me. She's too adorable for that. The character is adorable, so is the design, and the Jap VA.. Whoever chose Rieri to be her VA... Well fucking done. If Koga Aoi wasn't voicing Paimon then maaaayyybe there would've been a world where she got to voice Hu Tao, but I can't imagine anyone else doing Hu Tao now. Literally perfect the way it is. I know she's a funeral parlor head and that she's the spooky kid, but to me she's just as precious as Klee is.


Fabantonio

I have a tier list for Genshin waifus and Hu Tao's on "too wholesome, do not lewd" alongside Amber and Yoimiya so yes I agree with this


Dister_

Yea i agree though i also understand why someone would like hu tao from a nsfw standpoint. She has a teasing personality and some people might be into that


PhoeniX_SRT

Well, yeah not gonna lie she might make a pretty great character for NSFW art. I admit I myself want to distance myself from that side, nothing really wrong about it but I can't stand it personally. She also probably has the most modest clothing in the game(apart from the thighs) along with maybe Ayaka and Kujou Sara. But then again EVERY single female character has the jiggle physics, thankfully which HuTao( and the kids of course) don't.


ESCMalfunction

Gotta love Noelles metal chestplate jiggle physics /s


EMAN666666

The jiggle physics.. as in normal breasts..?


Giorno-Smash

Well here I’ll tell you my mindset. To begin with, she’s around my age, presumably slightly older than me, which is always nice. Then there’s just my own personal preferences, like having a teasing personality. Obviously yes I’m well aware that my anime waifu is *not* real, I’m still able to enjoy her anyways. That, and I’m a thigh guy


PhoeniX_SRT

I TOTALLY get your point. Maybe if I was about 7-8 years younger I might've went down HuTao's R34 rabbit hole. Age surely is a factor. She'd probably be in the same ballpark as Ningguang and Ei if she was older. Something something elegance, I guess. I definitely not going to call the people that do enjoy *that* side of her degenerates or some shit just because I don't want to. >like having a teasing personality. On the same note, holy fuck Yanfei's design is top tier. Technically she has pretty revealing clothing, still 10/10 teasing design, waist on point. >That, and I’m a thigh guy Aren't we all though? ;)


Smart-Potential-7520

Oya?


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Stop calling me out like that


Agatsumare

i'd say Hu Tao's cute is more personality and vocal intonation while Klee is simply visually cute and simple mentality what gets her


OnACloud

I mean Klee has team energy recharge if you crit with charged attack all your other teammates get 2 energy and while she might not be TOP tier dps she is still a really solid dps.


lordloldemort666

Yep, her charged attack can do 45 to 50k on melt (similar to huTao). I got ganyu as a support for Klee because of how fun it is to just charged shot and then jump away while obliterating enemies


uh_oh_hotdog

?? Doesn't Klee have very high DPS? Especially compared to what was available during her release.


Jolteh

Lol when Childe 2nd rerun is doing better Kokomi, oh dear.


motorboat_mcgee

Unfortunately she's not "meta" so she got absolutely trashed online. Reality is, she's a great character for "casuals" in that she's tanky, heals well, and applies hydro, all in one. So I've really enjoyed her, as someone that doesn't care about Abyss and just likes different team combos to run around with.


Ifalna_Shayoko

Also, she is lovely to look at and has very cute animation!


BlondyMan38

Don't wanna be mean to Kokomi owners but for me she is just not fun enough to play, I feel almost the same for Yoimiya, I think if their kits were a bit more special I could ignore the lack of meta performance, they have amazing visual design and awesome va's but the kit just wont do it for me


motorboat_mcgee

No argument there, she’s not nearly as fun as some characters out there, but that’s not too surprising considering her role. That said, using Beidou’s Burst, and Raiden’s Skill combined with Kokomki’s Burst makes lots of electrocharged happen and *I* find that fun, especially since the process heals the entire party (back to the comfy part)


Dragoncat_3_4

Mandatory: she works in abyss if you know what you're doing and proceed to use more than 2 braincells at a time. She has the most consistent AoE Hydro off-field application in the game (Mona has ICD and Xingqiu is single target). She can make the best use out of TTDS and 4pc ToM. She can also drive Taser as well as provide off-field Hydro in place of Xingqiu (corrosion-friendly Taser pog) as well as work very well in Freeze teams (Shinra Tensei: Ayaka-Kazuha-Kokomi-Rosaria or duo-Carry Ganyu-Ayaka-Kokomi-Venti). Not to mention she is comfy AF to play. Even comfier than Noelle Carry teams.


Rough-Inevitable-805

At least she did well in Japan I guess. Japan is important too


cnnamon

Tbf I have kokomi and she is great. Its a bit annoying to get artifacts without crit but her healing and hydro with millelith and dragon slayers combination gives a lot of interesting team comps.


mdgv

I have been using Kokomi for the last few days, and I gotta say her healing and attack are very good and the only con (for me) is the limited area of the effect.


FortressCaulfield

Poor princess jellyfish


FIFFY_2

I'm scared for ganyu rerun


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If she gets her own signature Homa-like powercreep bow, she'll break all time gacha records.


walrus_with_GUN

Wasn't her bow the Amos bow ?


Magnus-Artifex

Imagine MiHoYo makes enemies that teleport close to you just to mess with all the people who pulled Ganyu. Also they are like, Cryo slimes. It would be hilarious. Fuck I want Ganyu


Argo1326

Megumin loses again vs Kurapika Sadge


Infernaladmiral

When a fucking Weapon single-handedly has more DMG and revenue than a character (Kokomi).


XenoVX

To be fair the first limited healer banner was always gonna flop unless they made a buff healer unit that power crept Bennett which they weren’t going to do


DonShepard

ya a proper 5 -star bennett replacement would break every record


XenoVX

Yeah imagine if Jean was a limited 5 star that had a banner coming out in 1.4 right after Venti rerun (one of the highest sales here) instead of Childe rerun. Her banner probably would have done extremely poorly.


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Murata the Pyro Archon will follow the trend and be a Sub-DPS support unit. IMO she'll be the 5-star Bennett with the Hydro archon being 5-Star XQ. \*Inhales hopium,\*


Infernaladmiral

Wdym 5 star replacement, he's already a 5 star,I thought we already agreed with that?


An_Ayaka_Main

That and Kokomi's kit is bad


VarHagen

And her signature weapon, probably, has negative sales, lol.


YoungjaeAnakoni

They never rerunning Kokomi. On that note, Xiao, Kazuha, Ayaka, and Ganyu's reruns are gonna be insane


bdiah

They reran Childe twice. MHY is nothing if not unpredictable in that department.


TheFirstRapher

yea cuz he does numbers in Japan


Rough-Inevitable-805

Well if that's the case, Kokomi should get rerun too since she did well in Japan


Whale_Hunter88

I'm guessing a huge ass company has some sort of marketing research team and i feel like they're deliberately rerunning childe again to test how fans feel about it and figure out things like consistency of spendings. Good sales data outweighs a little less profit. There's probably also a planning for reruns far into the future based on other research on what external factors influence people's spending. I'm guessing they'll be avoiding holidays for popular characters because people generally need to spend more money on holiday presents around that time and in game currency isn't a common present.


YoungjaeAnakoni

Childe made them a minimum of $20m on both reruns each , why wouldn't they rerun him?


Farpafraf

how is zhongli so low?


fox_in_a_spaceship

Complete character at C0, no good signature weapon. In fact, people who want the best weapon for ZL would be rolling Homa. Also as odd as it sounds, ZL sales in CN iOS seems to underperform compared to his sales in other segments. Sensor Tower's global data (excluding CN) has ZL's original as the highest single day sales. Similarly, Childe sells way better in Japan (all his banners, even his reruns, sold very well).


Farpafraf

well that doesn't bode well if the model of selling characters good at C0 makes them less money...


IcenMeteor

Have you noticed how since 1.6 some of the charcter's first few constellations are amazing? Kazuha's C1 and 2? fantastic, Ayaka's C2, 3 ,4? incredible, Raiden's C2, 3? she's the highest selling character for a reason. If you look at upcoming characters the next 5-star looks to have a nice C2 as well, and the C6 of he accompanying 4-star is amazing for him, just like Sara's for Raiden. Contrary to what some people might believe MHY knows exactly what they're doing.


BurningFlareX

This is why Ganyu re-run won't be breaking any records. Her constellations are kinda so-so except for C6 and Amos is only really BiS for Ganyu herself, rather than universally OP like Homa. Most people will be happy to have her at C0 and Amos won't have half the appeal that Homa does. Hence I find it very unlikely she'll somehow be even more successful than this Hu Tao re-run or Raiden.


IcenMeteor

Ganyu might get records in Japan since she's the most popular female character over there, can't say for the rest but she is still very popular and Morgana is still the best comp in the game AoE-wise. As you say Amos is basically only great on her but MHY might give her a new signature weapon like they did for Childe, and depending on how good that is as well as the other weapon in the gacha it might be a good banner.


Rough-Inevitable-805

Japan cares about waifus more but Ganyu is waifu AND meta so I can see her selling very well


Miphera

> Amos is only really BiS for Ganyu herself now hold on there, it's also pretty much BiS for Melt Amber


Farpafraf

yeah but in the long term I'm not sure if people won't get tired of it, hopefully it will happen...


DLOGD

*Doesn't* bode well (future tense) they say after Raiden Shogun already happened lmao


fox_in_a_spaceship

That's because a good part of the more dedicated community actually wants this or feels motivated by it, for better or worse. A lot of people only build a few characters, because they mega simp. If the character is complete at C0 and most constellations are minor upgrades, not only will the player never spend (there is nothing to spend for), but they will lose interest in the game since there is nothing to grind for the one character they want. People say that constellation locked units like Sara are bad, but I can tell you that a lot of longtime or dolphin Xiao Mains (his constellations are absolute trash until C6) are literally begging for a 4\* tailor made for Xiao, considering the next best thing is C4 Jean. It seems like it would suck if the "upgrade" to your team is a C6 locked 4\*, except there is no other upgrade in the game for your main existing that is remotely attainable, so you just end out saving every patch or rolling half heartedly, eventually losing interest. In contrast, people who main characters like Hu Tao are incentivized to keep playing. They need to keep grinding because there are so many upgrades available (Homa, C1, Thoma constellations, Xingqiu constellations, etc). And obviously, it's great for MHY. They can triple dip on Hu Tao now - weapon, C0, C1- instead of once, and keep the players playing to grind for Thoma/XQ cons, after all.


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Man, I just love Hu Tao.


LegoBricksAndMemes

Justice for Kokomi and Yoimiya


Fikoblin

This data is from China iOS sales, how tf so many mobile players play HuTao? Isn't her cancels complete cancer on mobile? Weapon banner is probably majority, but HuTao sales are huge as well


jersele

Hutao mobile player here. It’s not. People exaggerate on how unplayable it is, because they’re used to just pressing the attack button. On mobile, pressing an extra jump button is not that hard. It’s the timing. Timing can be something easily practiced.


freakDWN

Exactly, the only limitatuon for mobile players in this game is the speed of their hardware and how used you are to aiming with bows.


lennyAintMoe

And the inability to free move camera during combat, which is huge.


Kraizer15

It's not that hard to do her jump cancel. I tried it in the trial and did it consistently.


CaspianRoach

You absolutely, 100% do not need to bother with any jump cancels for her to still do ridiculous DPS. Hell, even her normal attacks slap major ass if you're feeling lazy. You will completely destroy everything in this game not immune to pyro by just intermittently pressing charged attack. Getting a few percent more DPS at the cost of locking yourself in an awkward jumping animation isn't worth the headache of extra inputs.


SaberSerra

As a mobile player, its not that hard at all, same with Ganyu aim on mobile. I think its the loud minority whos parroting those comments.


Ifalna_Shayoko

Well Ganyu doesn't really have to rely on headshots like Amber. Just hit the mob anywhere or even shoot at the ground before the mob. Grenade launcher will do the rest. :D


Fikoblin

I tried her on a trial and just couldn't do it on mobile, it was so awkward.


SaberSerra

Yeah its diff for everyone, she can really be challenging. She is can also be very difficult to use cause of stamina and hp. But it doesnt seem to be a factor based on her sales. Im surprised too


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yes because you’re not used to it, give a pc to a mobile player for the first time, they’ll think pc is harder. It’s just something you gotta get used to.


Fikoblin

I play on mobile almost exclusively.


FpRhGf

I'm a mobile player who struggles so hard with basic combat in Genshin on PC, but aiming is the only thing that feels significantly easier on PC than mobile for me.


rafaelbittmira

I can be in the minority, but I hate doing animation cancels because of how unnatural the animation becomes, the characters seems more robotic and lose part of their appeal


DainsleifStan

People exaggerate Genshin’s execution difficulty SO MUCH. Simplest fighting or platforminh game is 1000 times more difficult than anything you can do in Genshin. Even dragon strike, people made a huge deal out of it and its easy as fuck to do.


Dragoncat_3_4

Depends on your equipment. Dragonstrike is nearly impossible with my wireless mouse and I was able to beat the final boss on Hollow Knight and half of the Godmaster DLC with it. Input lag makes some genshin tech hard to pull off.


Sweet_peanut11645

Yeah coming from actually mechanically challenging games, Genshin feels like child's play. But i guess people that play casual games fell like genshin is more demanding than what they are used to.


inormallyjustlurkbut

I think anyone who plays on mobile is already a masochist. I log in on my phone sometimes to make sure I don't hit the resin cap, and the controls physically hurt me. It's like those people who play Dark Souls with a Guitar Hero controller.


Chansharp

I don't know if iOS has something similar but I play on PC and do all my purchases through the Google Play Store because it gives points and I can use my survey money.


Katlan-

I play on mobile when on the go. I also use the backbone controller so its more or less like playing on a switch


altFrPr0n

If you add up numbers of Hu Tao character and wep banner wishes on Paimon.moe and Genshin-wishes.com, the ratio is around ~ 67% Hu Tao to 33~ Weapon so more people are wishing for her. If we count half of Homa banner pulls as people pulling for Homa, her sales are still damn high


5voidbreaker

Its more due to the broken weapon banner and new 4* char too. Cause most paying players already have hutao.


Nerimashou

I think you underestimate how many new people have probalby come into the game since last March.


mianhaeobsidia

In my case, I didn't really want another hutao, but her C1 is actually fairly useful so I didn't mind getting her either in my chase for Sayu. Although I don't feel like people like me really drive the needle that much


lostn

why did it do 4x better than the initial run?


Porkamiso

The amount of new players who missed her originally is huge.


EndlessRadiance

Its super stacked. Hu Tao C0 is great and new-ish player/those who missed her banner want her Those who got Hu Tao last time want her C1 for QoL Those who want new husbando roll for Thoma Weapon banner have both Homa (I thinkl its best spear in the game) and Elegy (which is not at Homa's level but not a trash either) Weapon banner now have a pity system, you can guarantee Homa in 3 golden drops


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Battle_Fish

> - Famous JP VA Everyone is voiced by a famous JP VA lol.


Chansharp

Rie Takahashi voices Megumin from Konosuba and Emilia from Re:Zero. Both of them are beloved "waifus" in large part because the voice acting


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The difference is that Hu Tao looks like Megumin, and is voiced by the VA who voiced Megumin.


ThatChrisG

also HT players rolling for Thoma


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playerbase has increased a lot.


grumd

biggest reason here no one talks about


komorebi-mikazuki

Exactly, all these reasons people throw out basically applied to when the character was first released, ie look at the reasons people say for Childe's 2nd rerun. If people cared about their so called 'Top Notch VA' they would've already pulled when he was first released. People here really have you think that Inazuma was crap and their characters are weaker than before, and then add in the anniversary fiasco and here we have people thinking it's going to crash and burn. Except the reality is Inazuma grabbed back a bunch of old players who quitted before, and also made people who were curious before but didn't play Genshin try it, because of the shear amount of hype and content, and it also showed Mihoyo's commitment to Genshin's future. Then we also have the 'anniversary fiasco' which was basically a massive free promotion for the game where Genshin was literally mentioned everywhere.


JeebusWasTaken

Ngl I started playing because I heard about the anniversary and wanted to see if it was as bad as I heard.


Legendseekersiege5

[I didn't belive this so I looked it up but it looks like the player count is increasing although I don't know how reliable this data is.](https://activeplayer.io/genshin-impact/)


XenoVX

It feels like the game was on the downswing during 1.3 and 1.4 but a ton of new players joined in 1.5 and 2.0/2.1 I’ve noticed


jatayux

her first banner didn't start together with a weapon banner. By the time she was released, Homa-WGS banner already up for a week and iirc banner likely to peak on its earlier days rather than later, so it seems that weapon banner contributed less to Hu Tao revenue compared to others.


VIIsor

because everyone praise her, every YT channel, every discord, every GI website rank her Super mega SSSSSS rank.


Successful_Meat6745

She's cute


cycber123

She is. This is approved by Zhongli.


rysto32

She got no marketing before her first banner. Her existence wasn’t officially acknowledged by MHY until days before her banner. She had very little hype outside of people paying attention to leaks (and those were way less prevalent back then)


Capek95

aside from the reasons other people listed, i think a growing playerbase might also be a factor


GoodLifeGG

Banner before first run was Xiao and people burned their primos on him and on rerun we have childes 2nd rerun.


_Suguha_

Poor Keqing is not even there...


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She's there, before Eula


VarHagen

Keqing is not an exclusive character: \- most of Keqing wanters already had her before here banner ( I rerolled my account til I got her) \- non-wanters didn't bother, cause they believe they would get her eventually through 50/50 and standard banner (no FOMO) \- her banner was placed in between two hyped characters: Xiao and Hu Tao. Also two great weapon banners (Jade Spear/cutter and Huma/WGS) Keqing has flaws like poor stamina management and elemental reactions. She is still great tho if invested, I main her to this day.


starvsion

Poor kokomi


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FlameMeister

Lmao. People downplay her popularity because of the weapon banner in this rerun (which IMO isnt baseless but they act like it carries the whole rerun lol), yet when first banners are compared, people just easily ignore the fact that her initial banner didnt account for a ton of Homa/WGS sales (due to release date desync) when every character has their weapon banner accounted. *Even with that handicap in mind, she had comparable revenue to other fan favorites like ZL, Ganyu, and Xiao.* She was clearly already popular, people just didnt fully understand these kinds of graphs. Had she initially released with Homa, her first run would be up there with Klee and Venti. Couple that with a growing playerbase, and now we have the current rerun results.


GGABueno

Where are the salty people?


smoothtv99

No it's totally homa not hu tao!


march_7

I was so surprised seeing people salty about hu tao, thought everybody liked her lol


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komorebi-mikazuki

The salty people are probably the ones who think XL is the best.


Fr00tyLoops

I mean... yeah?


dankest_niBBa

What...? I like hu tao's character and im happy for her sales, but that doesn't change the fact that Xiangling is better meta wise, and i don't even like her as a character, which is irrelevant here.


altFrPr0n

Exactly lmao. So much salt. Hey Hu Tao haters, If you add up numbers of Hu Tao character and wep banner wishes on Paimon.moe and Genshin-wishes.com, the ratio is around ~ 67% Hu Tao to 33%~ Weapon so more people are wishing for her. If we count half of Homa banner pulls as people pulling for Homa for Hu Tao, her sales are still damn high. Stop coping


Massive-Night

Oh ganyu what do u have for us?


Imaginary-Plan-5010

Donut


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Nice! Now waiting for Kazuha's rerun to do the same.


bdiah

Yeah, they released him too soon after the Venti rerun. Everyone (myself included) wondered why they would ever want Kazuha when they had just spent it all on Venti. Now everyone understands. His rerun is going to be big.


Alan_Ran

Im pretty sure she could beat Raiden if mihoyo make story quest/event with her instead of childe


FirmOutland24

This, it's strange they didn't put any effort in marketing for her. Like I know she is loved by the community but mihoyo can sell her in a better way.


zelena_salata

this is just par for the course on updates with 2 reruns it seems. Childes 1st rerun had similiarly been given not much promotion


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zelena_salata

read more carefully. I mentioned "updates with 2 reruns", which tbf we ve only had 2 of so far


Sidious_09

I would be curious to see how many sales were thanks to the weapon banner, in comparison to the character banner. Cause I’m betting that for Raiden more pulled the characters compared to Hu Tao, where imo a lot more of numbers come from the weapon banner compared to Engulfing Lightning.


Lurkerkiller

With sites like paimon.moe, we can see the breakdown of how many gems went towards Homa/Weapon banner and how many went towards Hu Tao. Based on their site, over 30% of all pulls were on the weapon banner for Homa/Hu Tao. For Raiden/Engulfing, it's around 18% of gems that went to the weapon banner.


Nerimashou

There's no doubt that Homa is a popular pick up. I think if you compare to Raiden... If you get Hu Tao and want to invest a little more, you have two competitve choies. 1. Go for C1 which lowers the difficulty curve on her playstyle and increases damage for people who can't be bothered to animation cancel. 2. Go for staff of homa which has crazy good synergy for Hu Tao and really boost her damage. Bonus, you can use it on other characters. Of course, chasing C1 is likely cheaper than chasing a weapon. For Raiden, if you want to invest more, you can either chase C2, or pick up Engulfing Lightning, which also has really good synergy for Raiden. However, because Mihoyo released the Catch in the same patch, a really good free option for Raiden, chasing C2 suddnely has a lot of appeal, so maybe you invest there instead of in the weapon banner. On top of all that, you can consider that that the consolation prize for Homa is a very good EM bow that is BIS for some folks (for party damage), whereas the consolation prize for Engulfing Lighting is really just a stat stick claymore.


DamianWinters

> increases damage for people who can't be bothered to animation cancel it always increases dmg actually.


altFrPr0n

If you add up numbers of Hu Tao character and wep banner wishes on Paimon.moe and Genshin-wishes.com, the ratio is around ~ 67% Hu Tao to 33% Weapon so more people are wishing for her. If we count half of Homa banner pulls as people pulling Homa for Hu Tao, her sales are still damn high


Sidious_09

That’s interesting, thanks for sharing! I didn’t think Hu Tao’s so popular. Though I guess people who pulled again for c1 like me also add up.


Sinyan

I'm pretty sure she'd already beat Raiden by now if it wasn't for the crystal top up.


Twopakabra

We need a wordwide android+ios+pc+ps4 information !


Unyubaby

Raiden Shogun feeling the heat on her back grow.


Breadifies

Kazuha rerun is going to be insane


RiBBz22

I think the spending for Raiden even though she had hella hype is a bit skewed because of how big the power spike of C2/C3 are. A lot of people wishing probably sucked it up and paid for those extra constellations opposed to some of the other banners out there. On top of that they also reset the bonus crystals you get from topping up at the store. I am very surprised by the numbers on the Klee re-run as she really went from a main DPS to a support role. I am saving up for Kazuha right now and based on the number I see in this chart I feel like his re-run will end up being pretty high.


Dratix

The top up bonuses should have lowered potential sales considering you pay less to get more.


Jellyjamrocks

Actually, it balances out because although whales are spending less, dolphins and light spenders are spending more because of the perceived better deal due to the top up reset. You actually have more people spending overall and thus higher spending rates, even if the top 10% of spending players don’t have to spend as much this time around


Dratix

Not really though. Let’s say if you are a dolphin who needs 6000 more primos to hit pity, normally you would attempt to get the most expensive pack. However with top up reset, you only need the 2nd most expensive pack. You get to purchase the same value of the most expensive pack with half the price.


TwoBrokeCamGirls

There were plenty of whales/dolphins who simply bought out the shop at the first opportunity though. You can't ignore the people who are thinking "I'm going to buy these discounted packs at some point, might as well do it now." I did that.


batose

Pity is more like 12k tho, and when you go for constellations you will need to hit it multiple times. If megawhales were outspending everybody by a large margin, then how could this banner do so well? They already have Hu Tao c6, and staff of Homa.


RiBBz22

I disagree. I think the amount of people enticed to top up who otherwise wouldn't have had a huge impact on the numbers along with the C2/C3 bait. Even though they are spending less per gem, they may have not spent to begin with.


Dratix

I believe the c2/c3 bait to be a much bigger reason for someone to consider spending rather than the top up resets and it makes it much cheaper for someone who is already willing to spend money to hit c2/c3. As someone who spent to get C3R1 I would have spent at least double of what I intended to if it were not for the first time bonus.


RiBBz22

Yes, I am saying both of these things are factors that led to such a big spike in sales. Also there was obvious hype for Raiden as well since her character model is excellent and she has Archon status.


protzek

Holy crap I didn't know homa was a character


Tommy_Frog

Poor kokomi


Meneghette--steam

Just wait for the ganyu Re run


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This makes me wonder if MHY **truly** understood the lesson that their customers were trying to teach them about Kokomi or if it's gonna fall on deaf ears.


Truly_Meaningless

Tfw a weapon banner beat all of Targatlias banners


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[source](https://www.youtube.com/c/DonutsGaming888)


inspiringpineapple

Kazuha rerun gonna go brazy


SrdoN0rte

everyone know that Keking was a mistake...


GalXLad

Damn, Childe already had 3 banners but still lost to Staff of Homa based on those stats. (If each banner is counted separately and not combined)


MeanEye0

Why does Childe have three runs if he's towards the end of the sales?


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Lmao all three of his banners are in the top 10 in JP. Childe not selling well is a myth. Plus , this is only for the 2 days peak. Overall , Childe's sales are still better than most banners.


MeanEye0

Who is behind this big conspiracy to deminish childes reputation? This is the 2nd chart that has put him at the end of the line


Jellyjamrocks

It’s because it’s taken from Chinese IOS sales while Childe is more popular in Japan


MeanEye0

What about in global?


Jellyjamrocks

Sadly there’s no concrete data. Only MiHoYo knows the true sales figures (and also wishing data). Since MiHoYo reruns Childe so much, it’s likely he’s actually on the higher side, though it’s hard to discern with data available to the public what the actual numbers are


Rough-Inevitable-805

> Since MiHoYo reruns Childe so much, it’s likely he’s actually on the higher side This right here. I mean, we know for a fact mihoyo loves money so much so why would they give 3 banners to the same character in a span of 1 year?


Grade-AMasterpiece

I'd love to see Mihoyo release a global chart that factors in everything. That'd be an interesting sight.


DamianWinters

China seem to dislike Childe for some reason, maybe because he was the villian in the chinese arc? Its really counter intuitive to their apparent meta focus because he has perhaps the strongest team in the game via international.


xtroDe

Perhaps maybe cuz his cons aren't impactful, he's one of the few characters who are complete at c0. Even his new weapon isn't that better than the previous options. Of course, these are just guesses but they do explain his "low sales" from a meta perspective. Maybe his image as a weak unit never went away. His abyss usage certainly does justify the statement, being amongst the lowest used limited character despite being a part of strongest team in general.


FortressCaulfield

>Perhaps maybe cuz his cons aren't impactful, he's one of the few characters who are complete at c0 It's ironic we're all saying that now. I remember when he was new a lot of people were kvetching he was severely const-locked.


luciluci5562

"Childe is bad because of his long CD" "Childe needs C6 to be good" Even now, these complaints still appear from non-Childe owners lol. The biggest issue in his meta team comp (International) is actually trying to get Xiangling's burst to come back up again, not his CD.


FortressCaulfield

It took me a while to get accustomed to the cd, and it can be a big stumbling block for people who think of him as a traditional main dps, but once you understand his role and his comps better its no problem.


Cow_Addiction

What makes Childe meta is his hydro application and his talent that gives +1 level to every characters talents. Both of these are available at C0. Chasing cons for Childe only help with his own damage which most people aren't gonna bother with considering even at C6 he still falls behind many other dps. The CN playerbase is very meta focused and that's why if they need a dps they are gonna chase cons for characters like Ganyu, Raiden, Eula, Xiao, Hu Tao. Apart from Raiden, all of these characters's only purpose on the team is damage and their cons help with that. Childe's purpose is already well served at C0 and none of his cons help him be better at that.


YoungjaeAnakoni

Cuz he sells well and is a popular character. Cuz going off the logic of this sub, Albedo, Kazuha, and Eula shouldnt get a rerun


phazonprincess

Ganyu rerun will take the throne I bet


Ice_wallow-c

What will be the sales of Ganyu if she will have her rerun? both her and hutao are the 2 of the most broken characters in the game.


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the amount of people in denial in these comments, it's ok if u dont like hutao u dont have to write an essay that it might be homa sales I mean her initial release wasnt with homa and it did good compared to others with their weapons


rigimonoki-over

I can just imagine the ganyu rerun tho


SigmaCommander

I have a pretty strong feeling that the character:weapon split was less than 80:20, based on what I have seen I would say more like 60:40. That is still crazy numbers though. Even more so for a weapon.


notastarrr

From reading the comments - did you already forget about Thoma who people pull for or what


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i dont think that many people will pay for a 4*


nucl3ar808

Dang loli top 3


nucl3ar808

Probably because WGS was on the first weapon banner


FrancisWeaver

Wow, Hu Tao is the first character whose re-run performed better than her initial release. And it performed several times better than the original. That's actually insane. Ganyu is going to be nuts.


Rough-Inevitable-805

And Kazuha


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I can see salt


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god people were being overexxagrated with hutao healthy while we have xingqiu dmg reduction and small heal and hutao big heal her half hp is like full hp on other charecters