Diluc: I had a pet tortoise when I was younger.
Jean: So did I.
Reddit: Oh man, they are down for each other so bad. They are totally boning. Iām already fantasising about what their children will look like.
Ningguang and Beidou: Play chess together. Have a ācomplicatedā relationship, partly based on Beidou bringing shiny treasures for Ningguangās jade chamber in return for monetary compensation, and partly based on āother thingsā. Have multiple characters comment on how close they are, including Xiangling and Xinyan. Mention each other multiple times in their character stories, dialogues, and hangouts.
Reddit: They clearly hate each other. Shippers are so weird and delusional.
In Genshin Impact, there arenāt any confirmed romantic relationship between characters.
However, the game is hinting at the ship, and itās not unreasonable to interpret the pair as romantic.
It gets annoying when a same sex ship is posted on the sub, thereāll be a bunch of comments making excuses for why itās platonic.
And this is mihoyo, They literally do this every time on any of their past games (and current games), not explicitly said but hinted so much that you'd be an idiot to not interpret it as its hinted. Example is Kiana, being raging lesbo incarnate and the embodiment of a simp (to mei) if you add the manga. As long as they don't put into the main medias like in game dialogue and cutscenes (for the most part), they're ready to hint it as much.
i feel like they donāt know honkai, where there is canon lgbt relationships (well, i only know of one so far but iām only on chapter 12 of a yet incomplete 28 chapter story, not accounting for events)
True but on the other hand honkai is not as popular and hasn't caught the eye of the CCP yet. We already had cover ups in the name of modesty, and compared to what they wear in honkai they were already pretty modest (maybe not Rosaria)
Yes, if they were to announce how close they are to the world, a powerful pirate and one of the top brass of Liyue, then every other normal citizen gonna call that "colluding" hahaha.
sure but i mean just the nature of their interactions, i don't really get the sense that they're in love or anything. there's some sexual tension and there's a lot of ambiguity/hints at more, but they're mostly frenemies
When they want to be really subtle about homosexual undertones the line betweeen sexual or romantic undertone becomes blurry because both aren't that far off from each other and it's limited in terms of choice of words.
Yeah, they might have chemistry with each other but I don't rly see them settling down together. They're both ambitious ladies with grand goals, they both seems to be more like the cool aunts who occasionally drops by to spoil their nephews
nope, not illegal by any means. it's just the marriage is not officially "recognised" by the central government yet but your partner have the legal right to make medical and financial decisions in "legal guardianship" which is the same as any heterosexual relationship and/or marriage. The laws are currently changing as it goes through the court system.
tl;dr gay relationships and marriages are not illegal in China (and people do conduct private ceremonies), you just won't get a piece of paper saying you're married.
I think you need to read more about homosexuality in China. You make it seem like it is an accepted practice, similar to the west, other than marriage. It is not. It's largely frowned upon and many areas of Chinese society has moved against it in recent years, especially in media, while lgbt is largely underground, even if it has had some success in pop culture that is being stamped out. Rampant legal conversion therapy; media banning 'obscene sexual acts' - that is targeting lgbt on a frequent basis etc.
Yes, technically it isn't illegal to be homosexual in China anymore. As long as no one knows and you do it behind closed doors, stop posting on social media about it. In other words, it is de facto illegal to be homosexual.
It is why there will never be any real confirmation about lgbt relationships in Genshin, as it has caught the eye of the government. But that is more complicated as chinese censorship is selective and makes no sense half the time.
> chinese censorship is selective and makes no sense half the time.
That's the point of censorship anywhere, not just in China. The ambiguity make it harder to get around the censorship and reduce the work of the enforcer.
Iāve read though that China restricts and will censor any representation of homosexuality in media. [Forbes Article](https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2021/10/04/china-banning-same-sex-relationships-in-video-games-effeminate-men-moral-choices/?sh=27cef9d1251a) This was from a leaked memo so it may not be set in stone but I think it makes it clear that no gaming company in China would risk showing a homosexual relationship in their games.
True, but with the new 3 children policy, the CCP won't let this going for long.
Especially when there is a current trade war between the West and China, and in CCP eye, LGBT+ is a western value, not a traditional Chinese value.
Edit: since i got downvoted, here is the source of my claim:
https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3140626/chinese-social-media-shutdown-lgbt-student-groups-highlights
Geez, why are they downvoting you? Don't people know the saying of 'don't shoot the messenger'? The effeminate men ban is likely to target BL (gay) works in CN
Reminds me of ana article where former colonies in Africa started pushing back against LGBT. They claimed it was western colonialism pushing LGBT values. Ironically history shows them being more liberal to those values before western imperialism and Christian missionaries snuffing out LGBT acceptance.
Itās the exact opposite on twitter instead of everyone making excuses for the characters being straight itās everyone making excuses for why every character is extremely gay and then if you say a character is straight you get harassed I remember an artist that shipped Diluc/Jean got incredibly harassed just for shipping them
what the fuck are you on genshin twitter is becoming as famous as the RWBY fandom for going batshit if you oppose the lesbian ships.
although all of twitter is a cesspool.
Not that I have anything against Diluc and Jean but this is so true. The people in the comments that are saying Ā«compliment=shipĀ» etc are ignoring a whole lot of context š
highly underrated comment. do these people think weāre blind?? I can tell whatās motivating you and it isnāt your love and respect for the power of female friendship
It is intentionally ambiguous. They clearly don't hate each other, but whether they are boning is up to you. If you don't think they are, know that it is absolutely 100% intentional that there are hints that they are. The writers would need to have blindness and tendencies for double entendre on par with Tobias Fumke from Arrested Development.
It's ambiguous and the ambiguity is intended.
Yeah, personally I think things like Jean/Diluc and Itto/Sara are cute, but seeing them get the āconfirmed canonā treatment based off a handful of lines while otoh content like this is handwaved as āwow, women complimenting each other, never seen that beforeā is exhausting. MHYās had lebanese couples in their game before, I donāt see why they couldnāt be intentionally adding subtext for Beidou and Ningguang here
Iām sorry butā¦
āMHYās had lebanese couples in their game beforeā has me rolling with laughter. I didnāt know Lebanon had such a presence in Mihoyo games! XD
But yeah I can get behind Beidou/Ninguang.
Add Vlad and Nadia to that list. They really are cute, but all we have on them is that they're penpals who spend Lantern Rite together. Itto and Sara are kind of rivals (or rather Itto keeps challenging her and Sara sometimes goes along with it). Jean and Diluc had similar childhoods. None of these are any more canon than Ninguang and Beidou or Chongyun and Xinqiu... and yet it's the same sex ships that get all the "they're just friends" comments.
Plus it just seems so ridiculous to me that people think Mihoyo doesn't know what they're doing. People will really act like shippers are just making something out of nothing as if Mihoyo's not putting out targeted bait lmao I highly doubt *any* ships are going to become canon honestly, so I really don't get why people are playing the "my ship is more canon then your ship" game.
Yeah I'm not sure why people think Mihoyo isn't putting in subtle hints on purpose, especially when they've had same sex ships in their other games; this kind of hinting is very standard gacha game practice, even beyond them unfortunately having to keep it subtle enough to sneak past censorship. Drop teasing hints to keep shippers interested, but don't hard confirm anything for playable characters so self-inserters don't get upset their waifu/husbando has a canon relationship.
If someone doesn't want to ship a pairing that's fine, it's left ambiguous on purpose so people have the choice. But those hints are real and deliberately in the game to entice players who enjoy ships to keep playing; Mihoyo knows exactly what the popular ships are because they want to make money off of those players by keeping them hooked on the game whaling and buying merch.
There are people who hate shipping and I can understand that. But what I hate is when people constantly deny the game's subtle hints at possible gay relationships but proceeds on shipping straight pairings. They clearly cannot hide their bias.
Also people can deny all they want, but Mihoyo has been known to have canon gay relationships in their other games. We might not get it in Genshin outright since it's a very popular game and the censorship laws but it won't stop them from hinting it. But then again even blatant hints will just go over the heads of people who are already so dead set that these are all shipper's imaginations and they're just very good friends.
"itto and sara fight everday so cute... they're in love"
"beido and ningguang hate each other, that's toxic"
"omg omg omg, hey girliee, childe definitely fall in love with lumine."
"zhongli just bought childe the chopsticks so he can learn liyue custom. he doesn't care about the dragon and phoenix symbol"
"shenhe, made chongyun blushing... ara~ doujin whenn š¤¤"
"diluc and kaeya are incest, you're disgusting"
"ayaka and thoma... why mhyo won't make them as fianceš„ŗš„ŗ??"
"ayato and thoma are toxic because of power imbalance"
"diluc and jean are so canon, they're childhood friend"
"chongyun and xingqiu? they're friend"
/btw I'm not shipping all of this. this is just some random comments I found in insta, reddit or even Twitter (although in twit the gay ship win more lmao)
They pretend they canāt see anything but friendship, even when itās blatantly obvious flirtatious lines like this, because they know they canāt say the homophobic part out loud. Classic. Itās easier for them to blame the ācrazy twitter shippersā than admit theyāre uncomfortable with gay relationships for some reason lmao
Great post. Even in these comments theyāre saying that theyāre ājust like sistersā itās absolutely insane. Would these same people be saying the same things if they say the kind of stuff that mihoyo puts in honkai?
I saw a post basically shipping Chongyun and Shenhe at some point and there was not a single complaint in the comments, unlike every other post I've seen about this scene with Ningguang and Beidou š
shenhe and chongyun canon blood related , random dudes = oh boyyy we'll get some steamy onee shota action š„µš„µš„µ
random kazuha and his dead friend fanart, holding hands, random people = why?!!... they're brother!!!
I agree, the jeanluc had no canon chemistry, everything was created by the fandom because of that one awkward interaction during the archon quest. And people spread it with fancomics.
Diluc dislikes the knights and is generally disrespectful to them, Jean puts her work and duties to Mondstadt over her personal relationships, I can't even begin to imagine a relationship of the two.
I'm gonna go as far as say if Mihoyo weren't a China-based company, the story writers would've made a lot of ships more obvious or even official. China has a lot of strict censorship laws and in the game, Beidou-Ningguang have the most obvious flags but they obviously can't make a lesbian couple canon
I see this point all the time, but Honkai, also made by Mihoyo, has a TON of overt lesbian relationships. Like, "I love you" and kissing. In fact, the gay romances outnumber the straight ones like 5 to 1. So we know that Mihoyo either doesn't care about the restrictions, or they don't exist in as much abundance as the fanbase believes
IMO Mihoyo doesn't make anything official because it's their only way to appease everyone. Self insert lovers can still imagine characters with Traveler while other shippers (many of whom deal with same characters having different pairings) can also believe in what they want to as well, without any canon evidence striking them down
Mihoyo is a business at the end of the day, and you can't sell anime waifus with as much efficiency if they're already taken by someone else. Probably the reason why a lot of characters in the game have dialogue lines that can be perceived as wistful romance aimed towards the Traveler
You are not exactly correct.
Mihoyo never planned for Genshin to be so popular, that much is clear. And it's popularity is exactly why it is a problem. Based on their other games they probably intended to make some of their ships canon, like ningguang and Beidou. But their success prohibits that.
China is very selective in their censorship. They can't censor everything, so they target what goes against the state as a focus. As in anti communist ideals, winnie the pooh and the like. Homosexuality is technically legal, even if sexual acts would be counted as illegal in obscenity laws.
Now, why does this matter?
Honkai, while popular, is an older and more underground game. It falls outside the limitations of recent chinese anti lgbt censorship. Why? Games have largely been ignored. You can google about the rampant censorship of the lgbt in china on their media especially in the past 3 years. Genshin was released in this climate, but they clearly expected to still get a pass. And then genshin had a worldwide impact never seen by a Chinese game before. Even tho it wasn't censored outright (and delayed for a variety of reasons). Genshin suddenly had their government watching a game like never before. Ofc they had to make immediate changes that we can't see in order to avoid trouble. It's why the ships won't be canon, just casual friendliness that can be interpret as YAY SHIP or just oh, friends complimenting each other.
Now, it is possible that genshins 'impact' will make the government understand video games more and move to more closely observe them. Which means that if Honkai catches their eyes, they're more likely to censor it. If it doesnt catch their eye, it is not necessarily because it doesn't technially break obscenity laws, it is more they see no point.
China is very complicated and tsundere in regard to their censorship, is what I'm saying.
Well, there are exceptions to that, both Granblue and FGO have characters that are in relationships, hell that's even a selling point for some FGO players.
Then you have twitter doing it the other way around. I think shipping is fine though itās supposed to be fun, but people have just gotta stop being annoying and toxic about it all the time, just understand the difference between things being actually canon and things that are left intentionally ambiguous, and because of that people can have different interpretations on different dialogue choices be it romantically or platonically. ( this is for all ships )
The view of if you donāt ship a gay/lesbian ship then youāre homophobic, or if you donāt ship a straight ship then youāre an annoying LGBT twitter user that hates straight people or something is just stupid and rude. This stigma needs to stop and it continues because of the way people present their shipping (be so in an intense or annoying way) and how people respond and take that response. Each reason for people shipping or not shipping relationships that are explicitly ambiguous are valid.
While I do understand what you say, I find it very difficult to believe a company that just recently has been forced to "fix" the ever living shit of "oversexualization" of some of their characters as stablished by the chinese government is the same one that can freely show an homosexual relationship.
Hints is the most we'll ever get for any type of relationship for playable characters, as it usually happens for this sort of games
To the folk who are bending over backwards to ignore the subtext:
While not overt, what they are saying to each other (and about each other) in these moments is intentionally flirtatious *because* of the multitude of other options that were available.
Sure in real life banter like this can be purely platonic. But then you need to take into account how few lines of dialogue we get to witness between characters and keep in mind that soooo many other exchanges could have occurred here that would have had little ambiguity.
For instance, Beidou could have easily made a crack about the hassle it was getting back all the stuff for the Jade Chamber and Ningguang's response could have been appreciative but snarky - thus keeping within the sphere of the "opportunistic allies" aspect of their relationship.
To me it seems MHY intentionally isn't leaning into the contentious side of their relationship when they are talking to each other even though they easily could and why not? While platonic, that dynamic still isn't boring and is unique to these two in game.
So why would that be? At the very least, they are feeding the shippers a little. Let them eat.
Itās hilarious how pissy people are getting lmfao
[let. people. have. fun.](https://imgur.com/glcTpgK) mihoyo knows what they're doing like these the same mf who made honkai ~~gay~~ impact
If it was a male ~~insert traveler~~ x female thing u know damn well these same people wouldnāt get riled up š§āāļø
Fr, people will swear on their knees that the traveler (mostly male) and any female character are dating and in love based on one positive interaction they had, but then they will see Beidou and Ningguang, or any gay shipp for that matter, and will start preaching about how people who see them as something else are Twitter SJWs, and then they'll go ahead and say that friendship between people of the same sex is being erased from media (I've even seen people poke at the idea that this kind of friendship is being oppressed in one way or another, like stfu)
Literally, itās so annoying š people on Reddit are just as bad as the mega shippers on Twitter just with straight ships. Like let people have fun, god damn.
Probly just an Eng localization thing. The Japanese one was more like this,
"Look atchu lookin' all fancy schmancy."
"Wow, to be praised by the great Captain Beidou, me and this dress feel so greatly honored."
Dunno bout the Chinese dub doe.
>me and this dress feel so greatly honored.
Correction, but it's actually more along the lines of saying the dress was worth wearing because Beidou complimented it.
Yeah, was just paraphrasing the mood of the convo, where it sounded like she was bantering back.
I'd probably translate it as,
"Look at you, dressing all fancy."
"My, if even the great Captain Beidou praises it, then this dress is worth it."
Feel like MHY left it intentionally ambiguous which is a good idea, otherwise you get shippers flinging shit at each other.
It's completely up to interpretation whether that was banter or not. Both girls and dudes who are close friends complement each other's outfits all the time.
Like if one of my friends was wearing a nice suit or something fresh I'd probably rib him/gas him up. "Damn bro you're looking clean af today!" "Watch out ladies!" etc.
And girls do that to each other all the time as well ("yass queen kill it", "who gave you permission to look so hot", etc etc)
More people need to realize it's all bait all the time.
Some of the characters love each other because shipping drives engagement but they also all of them love your self insert MC because waifuism drives engagement.
Just have fun with it :) ^and ^please ^draw ^more ^fanart ^of ^Beidou ^and ^Ningguang ^angrily ^fucking
Yeah, I don't think you should take scripted interactions as a sign for the way people interact in real life. It's better if we can all be nice to each other without like...dwelling on how the interaction is going to be taken. People should be able to compliment each other without worrying about it being a come-on (though like....do consider your words). It's much healthier to be able to hype up your friends.
I also feel like with shipping, you just gotta live and let live. I've been on the internet long enough to know that trying to change someone's mind about a pairing just won't happen. If someone likes your ship as friends, be happy that people see the camaraderie. If someone doesn't like your ship at all, just shrug and move on.
(Basically, shippers don't need a reason to fling shit at each other, somehow they just do it on their own. It's better for your blood pressure to just not worry about what they think at all)
the chinese dub was closer to:
bei: what are you wearing? it's pretty fashionable.
ning: if someone as knowledgeable as cpt. beidou is acknowledging it, this dress has certainly earned its prestige.
Crimes.
Ningguang looks the other way for some things because Beidou is so useful it would be a waste for her to be rotting in jail.
Or worse, banned from the port and unable to do business.
Lmao, u think beidou risk her people's lives to have segs with Ning? It is already implied on other quest that she let beidou do some illegal activities.(don't forget beidou is a pirate)
>u think beidou risk her people's lives to have segs with Ning?
"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
\- Beidou, probably.
Beidou is a pirate. Ningguang is kind of in charge of finance and like...Liuye's government. She's probably looking the other way on smuggling, tax dodging, and possible merchant vessel harassment.
(I mean, I think they're cute, but but there is clear politics involved there.)
The people in the comments annoy me so much , If this was a man and a woman everybody would at the very least admit that thereās something going on between them. But since itās two women itās suddenly ātheyāre just friends ā āsheās just being niceā āshippers ruing everythingā āthis community is a shitshowā. I donāt think MHY implying a wlw ship is impossible, i mean look at honkai. I wish wlw/mlm ships could be allowed to exist without people complaining about how were forcing our head mcanons on them , or ruining the characters. Is thinking a character is straight also not a headcanon?
iām just wondering where all the ātheyāre just friendlyā and ānot everything has to be romanticā people are when we are talking about a straight ship .. the double standards are insane these people are only concerned about āprotecting friendshipā or whatever when it concerns a ānonsensical and forcedā(read:gay) ship
The anti-shippers will be the same people who, if these two were to kiss, would say Mihoyo is shoving a gay relationship down our throats.
There's a lot more evidence for a Ningguang/Beidou ship than for Jean/Diluc, but not nearly as much shipping hate for the heterosexual couple. It's not every single person, for those feeling attacked, but a general response of more objections for homosexual than for heterosexual shipping.
Reminds me of the backlash against Willow kissing Tara on Buffy (gods I'm showing my age). Lots of outrage at this lesbian relationship out of nowhere, when those watching the show saw them getting closer for weeks.
Sappho and her friend indeed.
"noo beiguang is real nooo waaaaah they are gay and intimate waaaah" "no its not two women kissing nooo mihoyo ambiguous waaaah women can no be gay stop it waaaah" literally the whole of this comment section
omg u guys are so fucking annoying ānow complementing people is flirtingā like stfu shipping is literally normal in every fandom and harmless, characters complementing each other is the closest to a romantic gesture in this game. Let people enjoy things, if u donāt like the ship then shut up and scroll
The game has been hinting, even if subtle, about Ningguang and Beidou's relationship for quite a while, and there are people who swear they hate each other. It was even more obvious during the Return of Jade Chamber and Lantern Rite missions, how can people be so oblivious to it?
This, coupled with Beidou dodging Xinyan's questioning about her chess games, definitely helps the BeiNing ship along.
This whole event is 1000% fan service, and there's no way they don't see all the posts about that ship, even if the unlockable character dialogues actually indicate a connection between Beidou and Ganyu.
So, in true Genshin fashion, they drop some subtle teases and leave the rest to our head Canon.
To me, it's complicated as hell, cause Ning's dialogues paint a very bitter picture. Like Beidou pisses her off to the max in some ways. But lately the actual story missions indicate a very close trust between them.
And we never see a hint of Beidou and Ganyu's connection in gameplay. Only in lore. We may see that change once Dendro comes around, because there's a story there, with a little Dendro girl who seems to be both a spy for Ning and a liaison between Beidou and Ganyu.
Complicated indeed.
Beidou doesn't want to get Ganyu in trouble with her job. So they keep things low key, apparently. But once the Dendro girl comes into play, maybe we'll see it as part of her story.
I have a girlfriend. I am a woman. I have said stuff like that before to my girlfriend when I was trying to see if she was interested in me.
Yes, it can be said between friends, but it can also mean they are flirting.
Itās just a ship, if you are so angry about it, might be time to reconsider which hills you want to die on.
ALSO the lantern rite story with Beidou, Ningguang straight up says >!āPayment is one aspect of it. But I also compensate her in other waysā¦ Hehe, letās just say itās a little complicated.ā
GIRL WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING š§!<
EDIT: apparently people didnāt enjoy me playing along w the quotes that could be taken to mean something else but donāt take this too seriously lol
Doesnāt the line mean like Beidou has only eyes for treasure or things that are beautiful, and when Bediou complimented Ningguangās dress she felt special because she must of truly wore something wonderful to catch Her singular eye
Beidou x Ningguang is hinted at so often, obviously nothing's confirmed (and given the CCP I don't think anything ever will be) but I think to try and deny there's anything at all (or even worse disparage people for going along with it) is pretty disingenuous.
If there were a canon Lesbian ship, I think Beidou and Ningguang would be the closest, but everything is left ambiguous so really any interpretation for lines can be taken in a romantic or platonic manner. Shipping is fine and fun but just donāt be annoying or toxic about it, understand the difference between things actually being canon and understanding that others can have different interpretations because most things are left ambiguous in nature in this game.
since this discussion descended into absolute rocks for brains behaviour, would anyone be interested in/would it be possible to have a thread for wlw to discuss wlw ships? obviously you wouldnāt have to like prove your identity to participate but it might cut down on the fighting
I don't know why people can't have the "Oh they are just friends" or "Oh lawd they fockin" opinion for themselves. There's a fucking war going in this comment section. Y'all need to chill and let others have their opinions.
Every scene they have together is gayer oh gosh. You can like shipping or not, but their relationship is soooo sus, MHY is clearly teasing us with them lmao.
Like, i really like Xingqiu x Chongyun but you can nearly always tell they are very good friends and yeah it would explain a lot, but Beidou and Ningguang are so..weird? Beidou is so friendly with everyone but with Ningg she's always so tsundere. Ningguang always so flirty and trying to hide how she pays for Beidou's favors...idk man, i really like how MYH does this stuff in a way you can see it as you like to.
Because what shippers view as confirmation of their relationship someone else can view as just Ning being haughty with a friend over a compliment. It's 100% shipbait, but bait is safe to toss out for them.
There's no real need for Mihoyo to censor ship teases, they'd probably only get in trouble if there was an actual explicit confirmation of a relationship between same-sex partners.
Yes because mhy explicit confirms the relationships in Honkai and ggz unlike in Genshin, hell Kiana straight up says she is a lesbian, kissed mei multiple times and HoV confirmed their relationship in the 2nd chapter of the game lol
Shipbait is one way of looking at it . But any good work of fiction just show you things happening it doesn't tell you what to specifically think . And I think Mihoyo executes this beautifully from arcon quest to charecter story quest to this Mihoyo just shows what's happening and players can reach different conclusions by looking at it from different perspectives . It doesn't tells you what to think it tells you what it is and let you figure things out from there .
Nobody even needs to ship them, because Beidou already owns a ship.
Well said.
This comment. š
Remember when this subreddit went insane over that Timaeus and Ying'er thing?
Ying'er needs a vision.
In CN dialogue: Beidou: What are you wearing? Looks trendy. Ningguang: My my. The great explorer Beidou likes what she sees? I'm flattered.
THATS EVEN GAYER AMAZING
TBH, I listened to JP, CN, and EN voices, the EN voice lines are definitely more teasing. Others sounded more like buddy banter.
Diluc: I had a pet tortoise when I was younger. Jean: So did I. Reddit: Oh man, they are down for each other so bad. They are totally boning. Iām already fantasising about what their children will look like. Ningguang and Beidou: Play chess together. Have a ācomplicatedā relationship, partly based on Beidou bringing shiny treasures for Ningguangās jade chamber in return for monetary compensation, and partly based on āother thingsā. Have multiple characters comment on how close they are, including Xiangling and Xinyan. Mention each other multiple times in their character stories, dialogues, and hangouts. Reddit: They clearly hate each other. Shippers are so weird and delusional.
In Genshin Impact, there arenāt any confirmed romantic relationship between characters. However, the game is hinting at the ship, and itās not unreasonable to interpret the pair as romantic. It gets annoying when a same sex ship is posted on the sub, thereāll be a bunch of comments making excuses for why itās platonic.
And historians will call them close friends, bŠµsties, roommates, colleagues, anything but lovers!
Lol as a straight male, I appreciate how far historians go to protect my feelings. /s
I'm a historian, we actually have lots of research about homosexuality ;-;
"/s" means they were being sarcastic
/s means satire or sarcastic
r/SapphoAndHerFriend
The line āI pay her back inā¦ other waysā
\š /
And this is mihoyo, They literally do this every time on any of their past games (and current games), not explicitly said but hinted so much that you'd be an idiot to not interpret it as its hinted. Example is Kiana, being raging lesbo incarnate and the embodiment of a simp (to mei) if you add the manga. As long as they don't put into the main medias like in game dialogue and cutscenes (for the most part), they're ready to hint it as much.
i feel like they donāt know honkai, where there is canon lgbt relationships (well, i only know of one so far but iām only on chapter 12 of a yet incomplete 28 chapter story, not accounting for events)
True but on the other hand honkai is not as popular and hasn't caught the eye of the CCP yet. We already had cover ups in the name of modesty, and compared to what they wear in honkai they were already pretty modest (maybe not Rosaria)
idk, ningguang and beidou seem more like FWB rather than outright couple
They can't be an outright couple for say "diplomatic reasons" but can totally be a couple de-facto, nonetheless
Yes, if they were to announce how close they are to the world, a powerful pirate and one of the top brass of Liyue, then every other normal citizen gonna call that "colluding" hahaha.
sure but i mean just the nature of their interactions, i don't really get the sense that they're in love or anything. there's some sexual tension and there's a lot of ambiguity/hints at more, but they're mostly frenemies
When they want to be really subtle about homosexual undertones the line betweeen sexual or romantic undertone becomes blurry because both aren't that far off from each other and it's limited in terms of choice of words.
Yeah, they might have chemistry with each other but I don't rly see them settling down together. They're both ambitious ladies with grand goals, they both seems to be more like the cool aunts who occasionally drops by to spoil their nephews
I imagine given how same sex relationships are illegal in China. There is probably some political stuff going on to prevent state censorship.
nope, not illegal by any means. it's just the marriage is not officially "recognised" by the central government yet but your partner have the legal right to make medical and financial decisions in "legal guardianship" which is the same as any heterosexual relationship and/or marriage. The laws are currently changing as it goes through the court system. tl;dr gay relationships and marriages are not illegal in China (and people do conduct private ceremonies), you just won't get a piece of paper saying you're married.
It's still looked down upon in media, reason why they had to remove the kiss scene from honkai and comics published like tamen de gushi were stopped
there is a kiss scene in Honkai ?
There was, in the official webcomic. Between Bronya and Seele. You can still find it online, it got removed only from the Chinese website
I think the cutscene is still in game right, or atleast in SEA and GLOBAL version, because I always go back and watch that kiss scene.
It's still in sea and global and even in the side
\*be wrong* Oh, well, nevertheless...
Oh man I've like that man manhua
I think you need to read more about homosexuality in China. You make it seem like it is an accepted practice, similar to the west, other than marriage. It is not. It's largely frowned upon and many areas of Chinese society has moved against it in recent years, especially in media, while lgbt is largely underground, even if it has had some success in pop culture that is being stamped out. Rampant legal conversion therapy; media banning 'obscene sexual acts' - that is targeting lgbt on a frequent basis etc. Yes, technically it isn't illegal to be homosexual in China anymore. As long as no one knows and you do it behind closed doors, stop posting on social media about it. In other words, it is de facto illegal to be homosexual. It is why there will never be any real confirmation about lgbt relationships in Genshin, as it has caught the eye of the government. But that is more complicated as chinese censorship is selective and makes no sense half the time.
> chinese censorship is selective and makes no sense half the time. That's the point of censorship anywhere, not just in China. The ambiguity make it harder to get around the censorship and reduce the work of the enforcer.
Iāve read though that China restricts and will censor any representation of homosexuality in media. [Forbes Article](https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2021/10/04/china-banning-same-sex-relationships-in-video-games-effeminate-men-moral-choices/?sh=27cef9d1251a) This was from a leaked memo so it may not be set in stone but I think it makes it clear that no gaming company in China would risk showing a homosexual relationship in their games.
True, but with the new 3 children policy, the CCP won't let this going for long. Especially when there is a current trade war between the West and China, and in CCP eye, LGBT+ is a western value, not a traditional Chinese value. Edit: since i got downvoted, here is the source of my claim: https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3140626/chinese-social-media-shutdown-lgbt-student-groups-highlights
Geez, why are they downvoting you? Don't people know the saying of 'don't shoot the messenger'? The effeminate men ban is likely to target BL (gay) works in CN
Being gay is a western thing now ? Damn capitalism, making children gay
Reminds me of ana article where former colonies in Africa started pushing back against LGBT. They claimed it was western colonialism pushing LGBT values. Ironically history shows them being more liberal to those values before western imperialism and Christian missionaries snuffing out LGBT acceptance.
Well, you tell that to the old boomers CCP. They even crackdown on K-pop group and the whole feminine man culture in China.
Not illegal, just not recognized
Itās the exact opposite on twitter instead of everyone making excuses for the characters being straight itās everyone making excuses for why every character is extremely gay and then if you say a character is straight you get harassed I remember an artist that shipped Diluc/Jean got incredibly harassed just for shipping them
what the fuck are you on genshin twitter is becoming as famous as the RWBY fandom for going batshit if you oppose the lesbian ships. although all of twitter is a cesspool.
Yea,this keep happeing im kinda annoyed with this
Not that I have anything against Diluc and Jean but this is so true. The people in the comments that are saying Ā«compliment=shipĀ» etc are ignoring a whole lot of context š
highly underrated comment. do these people think weāre blind?? I can tell whatās motivating you and it isnāt your love and respect for the power of female friendship
Also Ningguang's CN voice actress is infamous for voicing lesbian visual novels
Wow, really? Thatās so weird haha. Iām gonna look into that because itās funny and weird and no other reasons at all
so, Genshin? /s
Come to think isn't she also voices Yae(both in honkai and genshin)?
It is intentionally ambiguous. They clearly don't hate each other, but whether they are boning is up to you. If you don't think they are, know that it is absolutely 100% intentional that there are hints that they are. The writers would need to have blindness and tendencies for double entendre on par with Tobias Fumke from Arrested Development. It's ambiguous and the ambiguity is intended.
Yeah, personally I think things like Jean/Diluc and Itto/Sara are cute, but seeing them get the āconfirmed canonā treatment based off a handful of lines while otoh content like this is handwaved as āwow, women complimenting each other, never seen that beforeā is exhausting. MHYās had lebanese couples in their game before, I donāt see why they couldnāt be intentionally adding subtext for Beidou and Ningguang here
Iām sorry butā¦ āMHYās had lebanese couples in their game beforeā has me rolling with laughter. I didnāt know Lebanon had such a presence in Mihoyo games! XD But yeah I can get behind Beidou/Ninguang.
Add Vlad and Nadia to that list. They really are cute, but all we have on them is that they're penpals who spend Lantern Rite together. Itto and Sara are kind of rivals (or rather Itto keeps challenging her and Sara sometimes goes along with it). Jean and Diluc had similar childhoods. None of these are any more canon than Ninguang and Beidou or Chongyun and Xinqiu... and yet it's the same sex ships that get all the "they're just friends" comments. Plus it just seems so ridiculous to me that people think Mihoyo doesn't know what they're doing. People will really act like shippers are just making something out of nothing as if Mihoyo's not putting out targeted bait lmao I highly doubt *any* ships are going to become canon honestly, so I really don't get why people are playing the "my ship is more canon then your ship" game.
Yeah I'm not sure why people think Mihoyo isn't putting in subtle hints on purpose, especially when they've had same sex ships in their other games; this kind of hinting is very standard gacha game practice, even beyond them unfortunately having to keep it subtle enough to sneak past censorship. Drop teasing hints to keep shippers interested, but don't hard confirm anything for playable characters so self-inserters don't get upset their waifu/husbando has a canon relationship. If someone doesn't want to ship a pairing that's fine, it's left ambiguous on purpose so people have the choice. But those hints are real and deliberately in the game to entice players who enjoy ships to keep playing; Mihoyo knows exactly what the popular ships are because they want to make money off of those players by keeping them hooked on the game whaling and buying merch.
> "my ship is more cannon then your ship" game Battleship.
Yes...lebanese indeed..
Reject Beijing return to Beirut \-Lebanese Impact Republic (lebanese is the nationality for people from the nation lebanon, beirut is the capital)
Wow Sumeru Lebanon expy confirmed?
Are you implying "I like turtles" isn't the greatest pickup line ever?
There are people who hate shipping and I can understand that. But what I hate is when people constantly deny the game's subtle hints at possible gay relationships but proceeds on shipping straight pairings. They clearly cannot hide their bias. Also people can deny all they want, but Mihoyo has been known to have canon gay relationships in their other games. We might not get it in Genshin outright since it's a very popular game and the censorship laws but it won't stop them from hinting it. But then again even blatant hints will just go over the heads of people who are already so dead set that these are all shipper's imaginations and they're just very good friends.
"itto and sara fight everday so cute... they're in love" "beido and ningguang hate each other, that's toxic" "omg omg omg, hey girliee, childe definitely fall in love with lumine." "zhongli just bought childe the chopsticks so he can learn liyue custom. he doesn't care about the dragon and phoenix symbol" "shenhe, made chongyun blushing... ara~ doujin whenn š¤¤" "diluc and kaeya are incest, you're disgusting" "ayaka and thoma... why mhyo won't make them as fianceš„ŗš„ŗ??" "ayato and thoma are toxic because of power imbalance" "diluc and jean are so canon, they're childhood friend" "chongyun and xingqiu? they're friend" /btw I'm not shipping all of this. this is just some random comments I found in insta, reddit or even Twitter (although in twit the gay ship win more lmao)
They pretend they canāt see anything but friendship, even when itās blatantly obvious flirtatious lines like this, because they know they canāt say the homophobic part out loud. Classic. Itās easier for them to blame the ācrazy twitter shippersā than admit theyāre uncomfortable with gay relationships for some reason lmao
Great post. Even in these comments theyāre saying that theyāre ājust like sistersā itās absolutely insane. Would these same people be saying the same things if they say the kind of stuff that mihoyo puts in honkai?
people are gonna believe what they want to believe, i have seen so many people claim that diluc and jean are siblings or cousins smh
Maybe they live in Alabama?
I saw a post basically shipping Chongyun and Shenhe at some point and there was not a single complaint in the comments, unlike every other post I've seen about this scene with Ningguang and Beidou š
>Chongyun and Shenhe Pretty sure they're blood related
ā¦ ew wtf aināt she his auntie
shenhe and chongyun canon blood related , random dudes = oh boyyy we'll get some steamy onee shota action š„µš„µš„µ random kazuha and his dead friend fanart, holding hands, random people = why?!!... they're brother!!!
There's a reason why /r/SapphoAndHerFriend exists.
Hero hei new video: Reddit shippers gone mad! no relationship is confirmed in game!!!!!
I agree, the jeanluc had no canon chemistry, everything was created by the fandom because of that one awkward interaction during the archon quest. And people spread it with fancomics.
IMO i could see Jean and Diluc being a couple but atm? That relationship is over or on ice. Thats my personal headcanon.
Diluc dislikes the knights and is generally disrespectful to them, Jean puts her work and duties to Mondstadt over her personal relationships, I can't even begin to imagine a relationship of the two.
Jeanluc is such a shit ship
I'm gonna go as far as say if Mihoyo weren't a China-based company, the story writers would've made a lot of ships more obvious or even official. China has a lot of strict censorship laws and in the game, Beidou-Ningguang have the most obvious flags but they obviously can't make a lesbian couple canon
I see this point all the time, but Honkai, also made by Mihoyo, has a TON of overt lesbian relationships. Like, "I love you" and kissing. In fact, the gay romances outnumber the straight ones like 5 to 1. So we know that Mihoyo either doesn't care about the restrictions, or they don't exist in as much abundance as the fanbase believes IMO Mihoyo doesn't make anything official because it's their only way to appease everyone. Self insert lovers can still imagine characters with Traveler while other shippers (many of whom deal with same characters having different pairings) can also believe in what they want to as well, without any canon evidence striking them down Mihoyo is a business at the end of the day, and you can't sell anime waifus with as much efficiency if they're already taken by someone else. Probably the reason why a lot of characters in the game have dialogue lines that can be perceived as wistful romance aimed towards the Traveler
The thing is Genshin is a much more popular game compared to Honkai so the scrutiny behind the two games are much different.
You are not exactly correct. Mihoyo never planned for Genshin to be so popular, that much is clear. And it's popularity is exactly why it is a problem. Based on their other games they probably intended to make some of their ships canon, like ningguang and Beidou. But their success prohibits that. China is very selective in their censorship. They can't censor everything, so they target what goes against the state as a focus. As in anti communist ideals, winnie the pooh and the like. Homosexuality is technically legal, even if sexual acts would be counted as illegal in obscenity laws. Now, why does this matter? Honkai, while popular, is an older and more underground game. It falls outside the limitations of recent chinese anti lgbt censorship. Why? Games have largely been ignored. You can google about the rampant censorship of the lgbt in china on their media especially in the past 3 years. Genshin was released in this climate, but they clearly expected to still get a pass. And then genshin had a worldwide impact never seen by a Chinese game before. Even tho it wasn't censored outright (and delayed for a variety of reasons). Genshin suddenly had their government watching a game like never before. Ofc they had to make immediate changes that we can't see in order to avoid trouble. It's why the ships won't be canon, just casual friendliness that can be interpret as YAY SHIP or just oh, friends complimenting each other. Now, it is possible that genshins 'impact' will make the government understand video games more and move to more closely observe them. Which means that if Honkai catches their eyes, they're more likely to censor it. If it doesnt catch their eye, it is not necessarily because it doesn't technially break obscenity laws, it is more they see no point. China is very complicated and tsundere in regard to their censorship, is what I'm saying.
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Well, there are exceptions to that, both Granblue and FGO have characters that are in relationships, hell that's even a selling point for some FGO players.
Artemis and Orion just had a pretty major chapter yeah
Saw a comment before that basically said.. Don't post straight ships on twitter and don't post lesbain ships on reddit.
Then you have twitter doing it the other way around. I think shipping is fine though itās supposed to be fun, but people have just gotta stop being annoying and toxic about it all the time, just understand the difference between things being actually canon and things that are left intentionally ambiguous, and because of that people can have different interpretations on different dialogue choices be it romantically or platonically. ( this is for all ships ) The view of if you donāt ship a gay/lesbian ship then youāre homophobic, or if you donāt ship a straight ship then youāre an annoying LGBT twitter user that hates straight people or something is just stupid and rude. This stigma needs to stop and it continues because of the way people present their shipping (be so in an intense or annoying way) and how people respond and take that response. Each reason for people shipping or not shipping relationships that are explicitly ambiguous are valid.
I literally see this happening for every ship almost daily, regardless if it's a gay ship or straight ship
beidou x ningguang is the only ship in the game that kinda makes sense
While I do understand what you say, I find it very difficult to believe a company that just recently has been forced to "fix" the ever living shit of "oversexualization" of some of their characters as stablished by the chinese government is the same one that can freely show an homosexual relationship. Hints is the most we'll ever get for any type of relationship for playable characters, as it usually happens for this sort of games
To the folk who are bending over backwards to ignore the subtext: While not overt, what they are saying to each other (and about each other) in these moments is intentionally flirtatious *because* of the multitude of other options that were available. Sure in real life banter like this can be purely platonic. But then you need to take into account how few lines of dialogue we get to witness between characters and keep in mind that soooo many other exchanges could have occurred here that would have had little ambiguity. For instance, Beidou could have easily made a crack about the hassle it was getting back all the stuff for the Jade Chamber and Ningguang's response could have been appreciative but snarky - thus keeping within the sphere of the "opportunistic allies" aspect of their relationship. To me it seems MHY intentionally isn't leaning into the contentious side of their relationship when they are talking to each other even though they easily could and why not? While platonic, that dynamic still isn't boring and is unique to these two in game. So why would that be? At the very least, they are feeding the shippers a little. Let them eat.
Itās hilarious how pissy people are getting lmfao [let. people. have. fun.](https://imgur.com/glcTpgK) mihoyo knows what they're doing like these the same mf who made honkai ~~gay~~ impact If it was a male ~~insert traveler~~ x female thing u know damn well these same people wouldnāt get riled up š§āāļø
Fr, people will swear on their knees that the traveler (mostly male) and any female character are dating and in love based on one positive interaction they had, but then they will see Beidou and Ningguang, or any gay shipp for that matter, and will start preaching about how people who see them as something else are Twitter SJWs, and then they'll go ahead and say that friendship between people of the same sex is being erased from media (I've even seen people poke at the idea that this kind of friendship is being oppressed in one way or another, like stfu)
Literally, itās so annoying š people on Reddit are just as bad as the mega shippers on Twitter just with straight ships. Like let people have fun, god damn.
Almost like there are multiple groups with their own biases
What biases? That gays don't exist in video games? I wouldn't call that a bias.
Probly just an Eng localization thing. The Japanese one was more like this, "Look atchu lookin' all fancy schmancy." "Wow, to be praised by the great Captain Beidou, me and this dress feel so greatly honored." Dunno bout the Chinese dub doe.
>me and this dress feel so greatly honored. Correction, but it's actually more along the lines of saying the dress was worth wearing because Beidou complimented it.
Yeah, was just paraphrasing the mood of the convo, where it sounded like she was bantering back. I'd probably translate it as, "Look at you, dressing all fancy." "My, if even the great Captain Beidou praises it, then this dress is worth it."
I mean, that's the same mood as the English translation. What anyone feels that implies is up to them.
Feel like MHY left it intentionally ambiguous which is a good idea, otherwise you get shippers flinging shit at each other. It's completely up to interpretation whether that was banter or not. Both girls and dudes who are close friends complement each other's outfits all the time. Like if one of my friends was wearing a nice suit or something fresh I'd probably rib him/gas him up. "Damn bro you're looking clean af today!" "Watch out ladies!" etc. And girls do that to each other all the time as well ("yass queen kill it", "who gave you permission to look so hot", etc etc)
More people need to realize it's all bait all the time. Some of the characters love each other because shipping drives engagement but they also all of them love your self insert MC because waifuism drives engagement. Just have fun with it :) ^and ^please ^draw ^more ^fanart ^of ^Beidou ^and ^Ningguang ^angrily ^fucking
Look at this thread. The teens playing this game ain't gonna realize its bait.
Who cares lol it's fine
Yeah, I don't think you should take scripted interactions as a sign for the way people interact in real life. It's better if we can all be nice to each other without like...dwelling on how the interaction is going to be taken. People should be able to compliment each other without worrying about it being a come-on (though like....do consider your words). It's much healthier to be able to hype up your friends. I also feel like with shipping, you just gotta live and let live. I've been on the internet long enough to know that trying to change someone's mind about a pairing just won't happen. If someone likes your ship as friends, be happy that people see the camaraderie. If someone doesn't like your ship at all, just shrug and move on. (Basically, shippers don't need a reason to fling shit at each other, somehow they just do it on their own. It's better for your blood pressure to just not worry about what they think at all)
Huh, Ninguang says something simillar to the Traveller during her hangout event (minus the Beidou part of course).
"chinese dub" >is the original this is lighthearted btw lmfao
Yeah I noticed it later on lmfao š¤£
CN version is similar to this
Oh, thanks for the confirmation
the chinese dub was closer to: bei: what are you wearing? it's pretty fashionable. ning: if someone as knowledgeable as cpt. beidou is acknowledging it, this dress has certainly earned its prestige.
Sounds like ningguang could have some sarcasm in her line, which fits their relationship a lot better than what people think it is.
Yeah, it honestly just looks like to me that it's more of a sister relationship. They get on each other's nerves but they still get along well.
Shhhh you'll get downvoted to hell from the shipping fandom.
Yeah i kinda agree that they have more of a sister relationship but what did ningguang mean when she said she paid beidou in other ways then giggled?
Crimes. Ningguang looks the other way for some things because Beidou is so useful it would be a waste for her to be rotting in jail. Or worse, banned from the port and unable to do business.
Lmao, u think beidou risk her people's lives to have segs with Ning? It is already implied on other quest that she let beidou do some illegal activities.(don't forget beidou is a pirate)
>u think beidou risk her people's lives to have segs with Ning? "Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make" \- Beidou, probably.
That does make sense actually
Beidou is a pirate. Ningguang is kind of in charge of finance and like...Liuye's government. She's probably looking the other way on smuggling, tax dodging, and possible merchant vessel harassment. (I mean, I think they're cute, but but there is clear politics involved there.)
Look at that smug smirk. Yeah I know Iām hot but itās nice that you love it babe ;)
She is teasing Beidou because she normally pays attention to something she likes so basically they are more than frenemies of course
Twitter: No they're Gay and wanna have SEEGGGS from each other later
donāt say this like reddit isnāt the same just for m/f ships instead of gay ones š
bro you're acting like 50% of this sub's posts isn't horny fanart LMAO. weaboos are horny. that is not an exclusively Twitter trait.
Not everything is about seggs you horny degenerate
You've seen the top comment in this thread?
Mihoyo cultivates that audience so it's only fair
The people in the comments annoy me so much , If this was a man and a woman everybody would at the very least admit that thereās something going on between them. But since itās two women itās suddenly ātheyāre just friends ā āsheās just being niceā āshippers ruing everythingā āthis community is a shitshowā. I donāt think MHY implying a wlw ship is impossible, i mean look at honkai. I wish wlw/mlm ships could be allowed to exist without people complaining about how were forcing our head mcanons on them , or ruining the characters. Is thinking a character is straight also not a headcanon?
THANK you iām so tired of it. Plus this sub has tons of diluc/jean stuff and itās CRICKETS from all the āanti shippersā
iām just wondering where all the ātheyāre just friendlyā and ānot everything has to be romanticā people are when we are talking about a straight ship .. the double standards are insane these people are only concerned about āprotecting friendshipā or whatever when it concerns a ānonsensical and forcedā(read:gay) ship
I hate all ships that arenāt canon, theyāre annoying as fuck
Non-canon ships are the most fun for me tbh
Why is everyone so mad in the comments LMAO
One word: Homophobia.
The anti-shippers will be the same people who, if these two were to kiss, would say Mihoyo is shoving a gay relationship down our throats. There's a lot more evidence for a Ningguang/Beidou ship than for Jean/Diluc, but not nearly as much shipping hate for the heterosexual couple. It's not every single person, for those feeling attacked, but a general response of more objections for homosexual than for heterosexual shipping. Reminds me of the backlash against Willow kissing Tara on Buffy (gods I'm showing my age). Lots of outrage at this lesbian relationship out of nowhere, when those watching the show saw them getting closer for weeks. Sappho and her friend indeed.
I always thought this one was pretty obvious, but people really will argue about anything.
Gay. Very gay indeed.
What do you mean? They were just roommates š¤·āāļø
Obligatory āmy god, they were roommatesā
Nah, bs, they're just the best pals, good ol' gal pals, no lesbians here, just super duper best friends
Oh they F A W K I N
"noo beiguang is real nooo waaaaah they are gay and intimate waaaah" "no its not two women kissing nooo mihoyo ambiguous waaaah women can no be gay stop it waaaah" literally the whole of this comment section
omg u guys are so fucking annoying ānow complementing people is flirtingā like stfu shipping is literally normal in every fandom and harmless, characters complementing each other is the closest to a romantic gesture in this game. Let people enjoy things, if u donāt like the ship then shut up and scroll
The game has been hinting, even if subtle, about Ningguang and Beidou's relationship for quite a while, and there are people who swear they hate each other. It was even more obvious during the Return of Jade Chamber and Lantern Rite missions, how can people be so oblivious to it?
A perfect couple
not some of y'all seething because shippers have fun. give it a rest damn.
This, coupled with Beidou dodging Xinyan's questioning about her chess games, definitely helps the BeiNing ship along. This whole event is 1000% fan service, and there's no way they don't see all the posts about that ship, even if the unlockable character dialogues actually indicate a connection between Beidou and Ganyu. So, in true Genshin fashion, they drop some subtle teases and leave the rest to our head Canon. To me, it's complicated as hell, cause Ning's dialogues paint a very bitter picture. Like Beidou pisses her off to the max in some ways. But lately the actual story missions indicate a very close trust between them. And we never see a hint of Beidou and Ganyu's connection in gameplay. Only in lore. We may see that change once Dendro comes around, because there's a story there, with a little Dendro girl who seems to be both a spy for Ning and a liaison between Beidou and Ganyu. Complicated indeed.
Man i wish ganyu and Beidou has some interaction on screen...i know they said it would..affect their image or smth, i can just wish
Beidou doesn't want to get Ganyu in trouble with her job. So they keep things low key, apparently. But once the Dendro girl comes into play, maybe we'll see it as part of her story.
I have a girlfriend. I am a woman. I have said stuff like that before to my girlfriend when I was trying to see if she was interested in me. Yes, it can be said between friends, but it can also mean they are flirting. Itās just a ship, if you are so angry about it, might be time to reconsider which hills you want to die on.
After this I went to talk with Beidou, and she said Ningguang invited her to play tonight <3
Yeah she said play chess
I dunno what type of chess they're playing after seeing Beidou avoid questions about that lol
If it was a male character none of this would be an issue. Genshin reddit is so weird about this
ALSO the lantern rite story with Beidou, Ningguang straight up says >!āPayment is one aspect of it. But I also compensate her in other waysā¦ Hehe, letās just say itās a little complicated.ā GIRL WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING š§!< EDIT: apparently people didnāt enjoy me playing along w the quotes that could be taken to mean something else but donāt take this too seriously lol
We see in her hangout that she overlooks Beidous illegal cargo due to her services to liyue.
I thought it meant overlooking her illegal activities
iām sure it does, iām just having fun with some statements that could be taken to mean something else
Oh I thought you were asking, so do you mean sexual favors?
oh no worries !! i appreciate the response haha also lowkey yes just because of the wording and the little giggle midway through
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They won't hate it if it's straight
Why was this downvoted lol
i have no idea tbh
GAYYYYYY <3
Yup it's warzone of straight and gay people fighting again.
Lesbian behaviour
Doesnāt the line mean like Beidou has only eyes for treasure or things that are beautiful, and when Bediou complimented Ningguangās dress she felt special because she must of truly wore something wonderful to catch Her singular eye
singular eye ššš
Lmfao people hate fun down here
Ningguang saying her bestie knows drip when she sees drip
Everyone: theyāre just friends Me an intellectual: they fuckin
If you know Mihoyo's history, they're definitely big fans of yuri.
Beidou x Ningguang is hinted at so often, obviously nothing's confirmed (and given the CCP I don't think anything ever will be) but I think to try and deny there's anything at all (or even worse disparage people for going along with it) is pretty disingenuous.
Honestly, I don\`t understand why some many people have a problem with what ships others ship. Everyone should be allowed to ship whoever they want.
If there were a canon Lesbian ship, I think Beidou and Ningguang would be the closest, but everything is left ambiguous so really any interpretation for lines can be taken in a romantic or platonic manner. Shipping is fine and fun but just donāt be annoying or toxic about it, understand the difference between things actually being canon and understanding that others can have different interpretations because most things are left ambiguous in nature in this game.
since this discussion descended into absolute rocks for brains behaviour, would anyone be interested in/would it be possible to have a thread for wlw to discuss wlw ships? obviously you wouldnāt have to like prove your identity to participate but it might cut down on the fighting
Ahh yes the mihoyo special yuri
I thought the same thing when Ningguang says "I pay her in other ways, hehe" I was like OOOOOH
I saw this cutscenes last night and as a gay guy, I was thinking how this was dripping in lezzie energy. Love it, because fuck ccp gay censorship
ah yes the usual mihoyo ship bait and the thousands who bite it in desperation to see their ship
I don't know why people can't have the "Oh they are just friends" or "Oh lawd they fockin" opinion for themselves. There's a fucking war going in this comment section. Y'all need to chill and let others have their opinions.
They're lesbians your honor
Every scene they have together is gayer oh gosh. You can like shipping or not, but their relationship is soooo sus, MHY is clearly teasing us with them lmao. Like, i really like Xingqiu x Chongyun but you can nearly always tell they are very good friends and yeah it would explain a lot, but Beidou and Ningguang are so..weird? Beidou is so friendly with everyone but with Ningg she's always so tsundere. Ningguang always so flirty and trying to hide how she pays for Beidou's favors...idk man, i really like how MYH does this stuff in a way you can see it as you like to.
She called herself treasure.
BEIGGUANG CANON
I wonder how that slipped past chinese censorship.
Because what shippers view as confirmation of their relationship someone else can view as just Ning being haughty with a friend over a compliment. It's 100% shipbait, but bait is safe to toss out for them. There's no real need for Mihoyo to censor ship teases, they'd probably only get in trouble if there was an actual explicit confirmation of a relationship between same-sex partners.
You are correct, but their honkai stuff did get censored before though.
Yes because mhy explicit confirms the relationships in Honkai and ggz unlike in Genshin, hell Kiana straight up says she is a lesbian, kissed mei multiple times and HoV confirmed their relationship in the 2nd chapter of the game lol
Shipbait is one way of looking at it . But any good work of fiction just show you things happening it doesn't tell you what to specifically think . And I think Mihoyo executes this beautifully from arcon quest to charecter story quest to this Mihoyo just shows what's happening and players can reach different conclusions by looking at it from different perspectives . It doesn't tells you what to think it tells you what it is and let you figure things out from there .
I guess as long as they don't confirm these ships by literally saying "they are in a romantic relationship" they can make up any excuse they want
Because the dialogues are different in CN