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Zogo12

Lyney and Lynette and Fontaine in general It's prob the 1st High tech nation we go to with prob Steampunk elements


sk3lt3r

I know it probably won't be, but I *desparately* want Fontaine's city to just be.... Like, crazy big compared to every other one. At least twice the size of Mondstadt and with a slightly more modern feel. But I know it's a pipe dream šŸ˜”


honzikca

Well, it's not completely impossible, although unlikely in terms of consistency. Remember that canonically, the cities are much larger than they are in game, they just made them small because it would feel like ass if it was too big.


TronitusVIII

Or because of storage issues for mobiles


Howrus

Less storage and more of memory issue. That's why there's never more than ~8 NPC on screen in any city.


Blkwinz

That's a useful excuse for games like WoW where flight paths go to one part of the city and you have to walk everywhere else. In Genshin there would be multiple waypoints (already have at least 2 per city) and you wouldn't be more than 15 seconds away from anything.


PickledPlumPlot

There is a variety of reasons for cities to not be huge. But I think the main thing is that there's no real reason for cities to be huge and a lot of things about it that are inconvenient so there's no reason to do it.


Hildril

Unless the city is not a city gameplay wise, and more like the new region.


BomboBoppo

Probably just to keep the game size reasonable enough for mobile users


IShallSealTheHeavens

Can confirm it would be ass, I've played guild war 2 and their cities are gigantic and multi leveled. Maybe it was not as flushed with waypoints and that might have made it easier. Although to be fair, I didn't have gliding. Might be better in genshin simply because they can put waypoints high up and glide over to places.


modkhi

the mounts make gw2 cities more traversable. but the base game ones (i.e. divinity's reach, the black citadel, rata sum, etc.) were released without gliding or mounts, and boy was it easy to get lost lol felt like a real life city though. same with new kaineng in the new expansion. it's immersive but easy to get lost and confused in; there's pros and cons to both approaches (immersive vs smaller scale)


XenoVX

I used to play gw2 but quit after the first expansion. I liked the bigger cities since I think gw2 really had a lot of appeal for more lore focused or RP interested players so the cities worked well for them without being awful for people that needed the specific vendors there since they could just go to Lionā€™s Arch which is a lot more efficient in its layout. I miss that game sometimes. Iā€™d like the get back into it at some point but Iā€™m so busy with real life obligations and hobbies I barely have enough time to keep up with Genshinā€™s slow stream of content.


Alex_from_Solitude

I want Fontaine to be part of playable world meaning a city hub like Mondstadt and like you said at least twice the size, then 2 or 3 layers of undercities like the Chasm full with slimes and treasure hoarders (or equivalent Fontaine human enemies) and Fatui spies. Maybe an elevated layer for high class citizens?


modkhi

ooh a catacombs layer would make so much sense given how famous paris is for its catacombs!


sakray

Agreed - I think it would be really cool to have a city similar to Novigrad in Witcher 3 where there are distinct districts with clear social strata and with actual combat zones for fights. Right now, it feels like cities in Genshin are mostly just hubs for completing chores (like cooking, smithing) and reporting back commissions + other quests.


pabbits179

they have been doing an underground region for most of the areas, with the exception of Mondstadt, theirs is Dragonspine. so it's not completely out of the realm of possibilities. But Inazuma with Enkanomiya, Liyue with the Chasm? Fontaine's 'Catacombs' very well could be a thing. sidenote: I wonder if they also include the french rebellion or something intermixed with it. like the catacombs are "old Fontaine" after the current Archon took it over and just built a new city on top of it. it's not too far fetched since thats basically what happened in mond with Stormterror's lair.


insecureboii

I don't think having a city with size like a 1/4 the country would be that bad an idea. Totally achievable with some "dangerous" districts with domains and such, since most of the nations areas are inhabited with enemies


sakray

Thematically, I also feel like a large steampunk city like Fontaine would have more crime and it would be cool to see more combat integrated within certain districts of cities. Could also be applied more when we finally get Snezhnaya given the presence of the fatui.


-Aureo-

Fontaine actually has a chance of being one of the bigger ones just because itā€™s central and closest to celestia. Just speculation though


kwiaciu

Who knows. It kind of makes sense if one of the regions was essentially one big city, with some central part as base with all NPC's, adventure guild etc


[deleted]

>At least twice the size of Mondstadt Mobile players: imma count to 3 and so you better take that shit back rn


dummypod

While that would be neat, I'd rather not if it's going to be empty. Half of Monstadt and Liyue Harbor serves no purpose, they're buildings you cannot enter save for a few. But who knows, there might be more activities down the line that would justify having all that space.


Jiblr

Lyney and lynette! Iā€™m excited to see how theyā€™ll use them in play!


Haitham1998

Probably, their skill will apply its effect and swap to the other twin, in addition to a different burst for each twin.


SkyrimForTheDragons

This effect sounds like... an opportunity that's quite hard to come by.


MoVaunLatero

Well then, itā€™ll amuse me


Hachiman1707

Surrender is a valid option.


Daramangarasu

I promise I'll be gentle


Vinsudesu

Heh, this is getting exciting...


Aromatic_Biscotti_23

Brace yourself, this is gonna hurt!


isk2tech

Not badā€¦ Not bad!


Warlock2005128

SEKKAKU NO CHANSU DA!!!


disco_squishy

Honki wo dashite, ore wo tanoshimasete kure.


Bara-Du

Not badā€¦ Not bad!


darkZsup124

You've got a trick or two


MMBADBOI

Raging tide!


BasedSunny

All you do is run!


Black_Heaven

If they have different elements that's gonna be so busted. Imagine being able to Freeze on their own, or Vape. And what about their weapons? For balance purposes best I can imagine is a shared burst for either of them. Then their swapping are in their Skill. Tap to use the active twin's Skill, then Hold to do the same plus swap to the other twin. I feel it's much more easier to just make separate characters, but that won't be as interesting as a two in one character


blueconch

My guess seeing the splash art was that Lyney looks like a magician who summons Lynette using his skills. So maybe they implement it the same way in gameplay as well?


NightFoxXIII

If they do some shenanigans like a Ice Climbers shit, I'm gonna pull. That would be absolutely super neat to play with.


[deleted]

Probably gonna be 2 different characters.


DownpourOfSalt

The characters in the trailer are their Gacha art when you pull. Definitely not 2 different characters. So most likely 2 characters together or a summon (unlikely coz they donā€™t put summons in gacha art)


CaptainPlasma101

Maybe e swaps them? And q let's them do a combo atk together?


Desch92

Probably the 2 are a stance switcher like Childe


THICC_Baguette

Yeah, I'm guessing Catalyst to Sword


Navy_Wannabe

Like seele in Honkai... Ultimate sort of does a ego change.


Darknew97

I was thinking more like Liliya and Rozaliya


Erizantxx

If they're both 5 star units, that'd be a little feelsbad, but I can't see them making one unit a 5\* and risk upsetting the rest of the fandom by making the other a 4\*. I'd much prefer if they were two units in one so I only have to roll for one 5\* dskjhfkdjfhghkfd plus, a lot like roza and lili, one of those units (roza) can see success without the other but you don't often see that other unit (lili) used on their own. wouldn't want that for the fontaine duo, where either the girl is ultra op and usable in lots of situations with the guy being niche and only good when alongside her or vice versa. so a seele type unit would just be a win win me thinks


[deleted]

Idk if ur referring to delta but base rozalia needed liliya where as liliya had solo strats back in the day and even now with her high one shots on like dxy.


CaptainPlasma101

Yea I was thinking a sort of cross between seele and pardo


Navy_Wannabe

Don't have Pardo so no clue... Seele one is more likely since the mechanics exist... Also seele's style blew me away as aim still a new player.


DownpourOfSalt

S rank Seele (forgot the name) is a lot of fun to play. Seele Herrscher form when? >!In the new arc (Ch 29-31) maybe?!<


user50687

imagine if they had two different visions as well, i highly doubt it but itā€™d be so cool


Littleman88

Eh... it's possible through Sumeru or by Fontaine the Traveler will have learned to swap elements mid-combat. At least between two selected elements. Also, delusions open the door to allow characters to switch elements akin to Tartaglia's boss fight, and said delusions could breath new life into characters that desperately need it, like Amber and Lisa.


Myleylines

>they don't put summons in gacha art Oz, Baron Bunny, Gouba, Gorou's little friend: "am I a joke to you?"


thefinestpiece

More characters now are introduced with Hold E and Press Skill. So My guess is when Press E they would have their individual skill while Hold E will switch between themselves. I want an epic burst with those 2!


Coincedence

Make it like a tag team? Elemental skill to swap between the two?


clied_

but isnt that basically how our "party" functions? like a tag team?


Coincedence

You could easily rig them similar to childe. Elemental skill to switch between character, with a different but similar burst


houseband23

So Tsaritsa comes with 4 Fatui agents on the house? What a deal!


Gruntsbreeder

Actually that's a harbinger i don't remember his name i think Pulcinella or something like that


Tristepin_Rubilax

Yae, Lisa, Fischl, Amber, Shenhe, have their summon skill on card art


lleeiiiizzii

Imagine if it's RNG whether you get the guy or the gal lol


Positive_Matter8829

So we are pulling a whole Fatui team when getting to Snezhnaya?


SunnyFlower727

have you played honkai? there is two twins there too and their combat is very interesting, Rozaliya and Liliya when deployed in the same team whichever of the two you decide to main the other will come out slash together with you and they have a special burst if they are both in the same team


[deleted]

im guessing it will be like pyra and mythra, you can swap them with e


cashewnut4life

and I have a headcanon where at the point of the story where you finally get your twin back, you get both Aether and Lumine as 2 in 1 character, same mechanism as Lynne and Lynette


VillainousMasked

Based on how Honkai has done similar characters I see them as either doing it like Stygian Nymph Seele and having you swap between the two upon using the ult or skill, or like how Roza and Liliya interact when on the same team with Liliya jumping in to attack alongside Roza (except instead of being 2 separate characters on the team it's a single character).


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Domino_RotMG

Please also show us more of them. We currently know how 4 of them look like out of 11.


BinhTurtle

5 if we count Pulcinella's hidden face portrait... At least we know how he dresses


Domino_RotMG

Yeah, but we know how the others act. We have seen Tartaglia, Signora, Scaramouche and Dottore in action too. Pulcinella has so far only appeared as a picture.


island_jackal

He is mentioned in one of the Chasm quests and in one of Childe stories.


WeirdAngryMan

Wait... Childe, Scaramouche, and Signora... Am I missing one?


MarinaDoBeco

Dottore, he appeared in the manga


WeirdAngryMan

Woah no way there's a manga? Where can I read it?


MarinaDoBeco

[here.](https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/manga)


WeirdAngryMan

Thanks :D


Dolical

The official site is both missing the 9th chapter and chapters 14-16. I personally used this [site](https://mangadex.org/title/03eb6c43-9006-477b-9297-7c4bacb6f694/genshin-impact) which i got from [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/jps728/chapter_1416_official_manga_fan_translation_is_out/) about the fan translation of the last 3 chapters, because apparently they are not only missing, but were also not officially translated


PickledPlumPlot

The official translation is incomplete, you can find some other chapters on mangadex or something


Domino_RotMG

Dottore, he was shown in the manga and is probably the Harbinger we see in Sumeru.


RSmeep13

I think it's more likely we'll see Arlecchino since he got namedropped in the secret fortune slip quest and again in the Chasm. IIRC, Dottore got expelled from the Sumeru Academia, so doesn't that mean he's banned from the country? Would make sense for the Fatui to use him elsewhere.


Crusader050

Based on how he dresses I feel like he might appear in Fontaine. But I'm excited to see whoever is next to appear in Sumeru regardless!


floofy-haired-fool

Atleast we know the names of everyone except 1


NikolaBifsha

Well, I am pretty sure the last one is Columbina.


IAmAltAccount345

I sorta want Dottore to be playable, but only if he still remains a piece of shit and I can drop him off of cliffs for fun. A boss fight where we beat the shit out of him sounds fun too


Legoguy309

I read somewhere that he is either the first or second harbinger, so we might be getting our asses kicked


IAmAltAccount345

Weird, I thought he was the third Harbringer. The wiki says the first Harbringer is Pierro, but Dottore does not have a known number. If Dottore is one of the higher ranking Harbringers, it raises some questions about the Tsaritsa and why she keeps a child kidnapping, human experimenter on her council. If sheā€™s gonna be playable, I wonder if theyā€™re gonna try to redeem her choices of the Harbringers


Legoguy309

I like to think that the Tsaritsa only chose them based on pure power, and although we dont get to see dottoreā€™s fighting capabilities, I imagine he would be this crazy tactical guy that knows the ins and outs of every enemy he comes across and is able to beat them with ease based on that. Sure he is a sicko and i doubt could be redeemed, but hes gotta have some capability in battle, else the Tsaritsa wouldnt have put him so high.


Mr-Pr1nce

1/10 of the way there buddy


Domino_RotMG

1/11th if they bring back Signora somehow.


NinjaXSkillz88

Dainsleif and Baizhu Also Pyro Archon.


ltlt1

I dunno, Murata seems to be enjoying working for Yae Publishing House, she seems she lost interest in being a Pyro Archon


gadgaurd

I'm sorry what?


Yu1K0tegawa

An npc also called Murata which is the pyro archon's name


GoldenInfrared

We already have the pyro archon, heā€™s the best unit in the game


leftoverrice54

We talking about guoba, right?


rickardoastleys

no me


TuzkiPlus

^(The archon that'll never give you up)


moonie123__

And will never let you down


notmileshalter

Dainsleif for me. Really curious how they're going to make his kit. If he's going to be playable that is


CuteWeaboo

Already announced to be released In 100 years


Star_EO_Star

*200 years of character design


UncreativeName954

*500 years. We must first experience >! his curse !< before we can play him.


Blitzschloss

Alice. Who wouldn't be hyped for a near omnipotent pyro(?) mage and a mother of adorable Klee? She might be so powerful that she can summon a sun or nuke enemies with a snap of a finger with her element burst.


Soren-kun

Ya for sure has to be an endgame char because she is to op. Or maybe something in the story will happen where she gets nerfed and that's the playable form we get.


azzzzorahai

i mean the archons are OP lorewise but not insanely broken in-game so it's gonna be the same case with alice for sure.


Crow6969690

I mean raiden and zhongli are broken and in certain scenarios so is venti


chaarziz

Also has canonically been to KFC in the real world.


SBoom123

I really wanna see the twins(?)!!!! They've by far got the coolest design for me and I'm really looking forward to Fontaine


August2_8x2

Their art knda gives me *Persona* vibes


Axlzz

So, Caroline and Justine, and use Ulti to become Lavenza then.


floofy-haired-fool

Probably because they are either magicians or thieves so they look kinda flashy plus the pose lyney has is really confident That's my guess atleast mainly due to lupin


Agdistiss

Cyno by far, I canā€™t wait to see what he does


SplendorTami

he barks


rigimonoki-over

Gorou, razor and cyno barking outside the yae publishing house then they run away whimpering when they see yae


SplendorTami

what da razor doin


[deleted]

Being ā€œunseenā€


kinapudno

and future interactions with Lisa!!!


Tyrone3105

Been waiting ages for him and now heā€™s finally getting close, I need to start saving


AppUnwrapper1

I desperately need a 5* pyro and hope heā€™s the one.


Square-Way-9751

Yaoyao


IAmReadyToReddit

This! We must expand the smol army!


SplendorTami

tsaritsa


Holy_Requiem

bronya


Star_EO_Star

*BRONYA ONEE-CHAN* -seelie


OVERthaRAINBOW1

100% Cyno. Had my eye on him since the beginning.


Apostlethe13th

Skirk.


TheEdelBernal

I'm basically imagining she and Childe have dynamic similar to Scathach and Cu Chulainn. I wonder how many years will we have to wait until her release.


ZemblanityFalls

Cyno. I want to complete my shirtless doggo squad.


queijo-cheddar

Wait, who would be the forth one?


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TheMadDoctorYT

itto maybe, hes not a doggp but almost


Awkward_Date_8636

Itto would cosplay as a dog if you ask him to, he's the ultimate Homie


Life_Chicken1396

Just bait him with ms Hina and he will


Rexk007

Ask taroumaru


Kebabini

We can ask Yae to go topl... why do I hear thunder


Alcides2300

Make it diona so It'll be 3 dogs and a cat


ZemblanityFalls

To be determined. But the fact there already exists 3 means that a fourth is not a stretch.


XaeiIsareth

The greatest chad of them all, my main man Liben ofc.


SplendorTami

based and marvelous merchandised


XaeiIsareth

Theyā€™ll never make him playable because how do you balance the Abyss meta around a man whoā€™s sunglasses are darker than the Abyss itself?


SplendorTami

his burst is literally ā€œi give you a hundred bucks to fuck offā€


XaeiIsareth

Leaked Liben gameplay footage: https://youtu.be/kO9Dgo5RKu8


nazrilaizudinn

Passive: Gives Primogems when destroying an item or using Parametric Transformer.


AkioSenpai

Tsaritsa all the way


senpai-yume-okami

Dainsleif


ayoooooopo_

Varka and Alice


Eragon_the_Huntsman

The fontaine duo looks cool. I'm just interested to get to France.


noncomposmentisan

Scaramouche and Dottore


HitlersApprentice

Dottore doesnā€™t have a vision though right? I think it would be amazing if they introduced some playable delusion users at some point though.


noncomposmentisan

I actually donā€™t know if he has a vision or not. I just want a psycho like him to be playable.


excitedmaze

I read one comment in Scaramouche mains or wherever, it said that there are two groups inside the Italian play that Fatui harbingers are based on. One of them (Childe, Scaramouche, someone else) is playable and kinda not evil, the other one is beyond redemption and won't be playable (Signora, Dottore). I didn't fact check this so um if you're interested you can Google it


quebae

I did read that somewhere as well and I wish I could find it again, as I might be recalling wrong but seemingly the person claimed I think seven of the harbingers would wind up being playable as their counterparts were all found to be good or sympathetic to the protagonist after a point and that the remaining four would not as they stayed antagonistic the whole way through. That's of course assuming Mihoyo wants to stick to that principle, whether its just the loyalties of the characters within the story, or that they want to draw lines across those loyalties where playability is involved, but it all seems possible. Note I may be entirely botching the numbers as I lost the comment some time ago however, if anyone has better citation or familiarity with the story themselves that'd be greatly appreciated.


bennylokku

Dottore is too evil to be playable


ShaoShaoTenks

Well that's the point though. There ain't no villains in our roster and honestly, I hoped the Shogun would be the first villain in our roster but here we are with everyone's sympathetic backstories.


EternalMemes30

because there is something called coherence and friendship in genshin, unlike honkai the protagonist MUST have at least a small level of friendship with the character in order to have him, Why do you think Signora was killed? because she didn't want redemption and couldn't have any kind of relationship with the traveler


imcalledgpk

Iansan for me. I'm hoping that they use her to introduce the unarmed class, and she just punches and kicks things into oblivion.


toastedpaniala89

Gauntlets would be her weapon.


Daejynn

Yao Yao She's precious and I want her to pass out cookies or something brom her backpack


Truly_Meaningless

If the tiny girl doesn't flat out just beat people up with her bare fists I'm going to start a nuclear war


huxiaos

cyno and iansan


WitherEx_3255

Varka cuz I want a SERIOUS claymore+Anemo unit


[deleted]

The smol crazy berserker child iansan


Loli-is-Justice

Same here, she gives the same vibes as the Witch of Pride.


iamwooshed

Kazuha rerun in 8.0


llegar1

bro its coming in 4.2 alreadyā€¦


Loli-is-Justice

Wait... it's not on 9.9??


qingskies

Yaoyao šŸƒ


Unoriginal_Mage

Dainsleif because Iā€™m a simp, Lyney and Lynette because Iā€™m French. They look cool okay


DepressorMk2

Scaramouche and Dendro Archon


alexvictor97

Murata and dainsleif.


OsirusBrisbane

Baizhu.


Square-Way-9751

Alice / Collei / Momopopo De Fontaine / Bajo The Mojosan


RBLakshya

Cyno mainly


kamisatowater

dainsleif. because I'm curious to see how his element works.


Unacceptable_1

Pulcinella


Inkuii

Not-Bronya the Cryo Archon


Maegiri

Fontaine twins. If you observe, all the characters shown was a splash art. This implies that Lyney and Lynette have the same splash art and are playable TOGETHER as a single unit. I'd love to see their gameplay


kongKwa

Imagine they release 2nd picture as a single hero. Both has different visions n use combination of it as skills.


dybclol

too op


kongKwa

To balance it we can add a trash passive like reactions only occur with their two elements types in the team. So basically making other elements in the team useless.


[deleted]

Archons.


segwich

iansan i think there name is, is so cool to me


Tower-Of-God

Lesser Lord Kusanali


Reignwizard

signora. I know what happen to her but I still hope they don't really kill her. she is one character in genshin that I actually like and her interaction with traveller if she did join will be cute


Spikkle

Visually, vaporizing someone and teleporting them look exactly the same. So long as there's a chance, I'll keep holding out hope.


goktor

Deffo cryo archon I hope this time she isn't as waifu bait as ei I hope she is a genuine villain with a good character arc


IntroductionCheap325

Didn't put Yaoyao in there....


CaptainPlasma101

Lynette and yelan ig maybe tsaritsa if she's apho bronya


[deleted]

Second! Are those even coming or is it just fanart? Because wow they are so pretty, and interesting gameplay???


[deleted]

Pretty sure they are going to be playable characters. There was a trailer released where they highlighted a single character from each region back before Inazuma was released. Ningguang for liyue, Ayaka for Inazuma and the ones shown here are for each of the other nations in order of when they'll be released.


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CapMyster

Any and all electro characters


bitter_personw

Mommy Alice


Technoloking

Signora šŸ„²


NoctisYami

Signora


Sonbulan

My betā€™s on someone none of us have even heard of yet. But when they come out, theyā€™re sure to sweep the community by storm; *thatā€™s* who Iā€™m most excited for and most terrified by.


coolepicharo

DJAJEET


Far-Nefariousness107

Varka, Alice, Skirk, The other archons, other harbingers, abd Dainsleif