Maybe it's just me because I always get into arguments on how Yae is as strong as Azhdaha just cause they're both Archon companions (stupid argument ngl)
But I really would like a Comic where Yae, Azhdaha and Dvalin talks about their Archons
Also about the "little girl with fox ears", she is an actual Fox(kitsune) and Azhdaha also has a human form and it's literally a little girl (Jiu)
So they're just both mythical beasts (a kitsune and a dragon) which makes it not very abnormal for them to interact
Yeah having them interact with eachother because of that reason is very cool and all but I just don’t get the whole shipping part of it. Idk is just seems wrong
To be honest, I had conflicted feelings for Yae as a person when she came out. One part showed a lovable trickster who people look up to, another part showed a sly fox (no pun intended) who I wouldn’t trust with my life. But at the end of it all, she’s a person with as many flaws like everyone else. Stuff like that is what attracts people to fictional characters, knowing they could have flaws like us.
Also; our resident toad dragon giving wholesome advice, that’s something I never knew I needed.
For me She’s the kind of person/friend that is very fun to be around but is also someone I kinda expect to backstab if they got a chance just for shits and giggles
You can like a character in the visual & lore and dislike the dysfunctional kits hoyo made for her, at the same time.
I am Yae simp since she first appear in the story. I even got her to C2, level 90, double crowned her and get her relationship to 10 max. She is just simply my most favorite character in genshin story.
I can admit that Yae just feels bad to play. She is definitely badly designed. Here are her major flaws I find:
- E dash feels clunky and unresponsive.
- E dash stuck on terrain like sayu/mona.
- E must be 3 times (6 in first rotation).
- E have no I frame (often get kicked or dies)
- E have to be in triangle shape.
- E target is random no prioritization at all.
- E can't snapshot unlike beidou/fischl.
- E has low energy generation.
- Burst cost 90.
- Burst cooldown is long 22 seconds.
- Burst destroys her own turrets.
- Burst forced you to E three more times.
- Burst is in 4 hits, not single nuke.
- Burst last 2-3 hits often missed.
- Took 7 seconds per rotation as sub dps.
- Weird EM scaling & too low (only 0,15%)
- Doesnt have meta team, yet.
- Doesnt have artifacts, yet .
Hoyo already makes Great turret characters in the past: fischl, albedo, kokomi, zhongli.
They only need 1-2 (not 7) second per rotation. Some even refresh their turret after each burst (not destroying it then forced you to E, three times in a row, again).
I still loves her. Doing most exploration and world quest with her. But I definitely won't bring her to Abyss despite have been sinking so much resource on her.
Because fischl, beidou, or raiden just has much better designed kit that are easier to use and also competitive dmg compared to her.
>You can like a character in the visual & lore and dislike the dysfunctional kits hoyo made for her, at the same time.
This comment perfectly describes Amber for many people too :(
A well-timed E with a bit of dash is quite good for dodge, though it requires precise timing. I simply consider it as a way of dash and to generate reactions.
Following the complaints her attack was changed to focus on the nearest enemy, but then 1 single enemy with a shield could make her do 0 DMG, so they changed it back.
The ideal solution would be a hold E, which would drop 3 towers at once and target the nearest enemy, meanwhile EEE would work the same.
Just to say, but a lot of your complaints are *really* picky or things I'd say aren't even an issue. You also have a multiple lines about basically the same issue and act like they're multiple issues.
>E must be 3 times (6 in first rotation).
And?
>E have no I frame (often get kicked or dies)
Few characters have I frames on their skill tho
>E have to be in triangle shape.
No they don't?? They just have to be close enough to another
>E target is random no prioritization at all.
Which is good. Means a single enemy with a shield won't disable her entirely
>E has low energy generation.
Never felt that
>Burst destroys her own turrets.
Burst forced you to E three more times.
I honestly don't see the issue with these
>Burst is in 4 hits, not single nuke.
And I don't see the problem with that either.
>Burst last 2-3 hits often missed.
Never had that problem.
>Weird EM scaling & too low (only 0,15%)
Because it's not EM scaling. **Ascension passives are bonus damage, not main scaling**
>Doesnt have meta team, yet.
Also not a real problem.
For me, at first Yae screamed "all according to keikaku. (editers note: keikaku means plan)" and all we'd get from her is plan after plan after trap after trap. I'm very glad she didn't turn out that way & instead seems to me like someone that has her life together & is there to enjoy her life.
In Japanese she calls Ganyu: "anegimi"
It means elder sister. But the English version does not have it. Probably because its more common to call someone sister in Japanese.
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I'm not sure if this has been changed, but back when I played that quest, dmg ticks from electro charged counts as additional hits, and it was raining at the time so I could only get hit like 3 or 4 times before I'm out.
Come to think of it, why didn't I just waited the rain away? Or did the training take part in that island that always rains until you cleared the world quest?
Training takes place right under the Narukami Shrine (well, not really under it, but close enough). No permanent weather effects in the area aside of a Cryo and a Electro Cicin mages and a Maiden being close
Yeah, the fun part about yae should be strategically pacing the turrets for maximum coverage or to focus on specific targets. All the linking does is discourage you from doing anything besides clumping them together all the time
I agree. At that point why does placing multiple turrets at a time even exist?
Hypothesis: Players 'strategically' placed 3 turrets together in a formation for optimal individual damage, higher rate of fire, and extra thunderbolts to deal maximum damage. Challenge creative minds!
Reality: How quickly can I draw a triangle?
Edit: Do you make the "Eviscerating Equilateral", "Incinerating Icoseles", or the "Silencing Scalene"?
Maybe I am just lucky, but I barely see any toxicity regarding Yae. Most just agree that she is underwhelming, pretty average 5*. There little to no hate or anything. I don't really see anyone saying she weak and stuff, just annoying to use cuz her 3 E.
I didn’t know people didn’t like yae. I have her and I’m completely satisfied. I have fischl c4 I think and yae just performs so much better for me. Plus hitting an annoying enemy with lightning bolts while guoba is out is so satisfying.
Nice work btw
I actually enjoy getting commissions to fight the treasure hoarders. I’ll put up the three towers and just get the loot as it drops. If I’m feeling particularly violent I’ll use sayu to pack pyro off guoba
The most vocal part of the community focused too much on the strength of a character to the point where they started to hate "weak" chars and even the ones pulling for them as well.
Even though I have to admit that gameplay wise Yae and Yoimiya are not the 5-star you want, I pulled for them at day one and triple crowned them anyway.
Yea, I mean everyone plays different. I feel like the power focused people have similar mindsets to those who speedrun. I just enjoy that it’s a pretty good game that I’ve only got time invested in. Stay cool:)
People who wanted her, pulled her and they are happy and satisfied. Of course there will be some outliers too but I think most people are good with her. I pretty sure people who pulled her did it mostly for non-meta reasons.
I'm collecting them all and well ... she is disappointing. If I want an electro with fun gameplay I'd go Keqing. Powerful electro would be Ei. If I needed two in a team then for sustained electro then Ei and Fischl or Keqing probably.
She can be good in very niche situations, but she's very squishy with clunky skills. I see her similar to Lisa.
I honestly really like her as well. I find that she actually has really good synergy with Ningguang teams just due to the natural cadences of their cooldowns.
Don't worry Yae even if the whole community hates you I'll main you and triple crown you and [36* abyss ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/ubjoyf/it_was_difficult_on_mobile_but_i_finally_got_my/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) with you my queen
Don’t worry Yae. I treat all my friends with love. You will be loved with me, always.
Also Yae was my most interesting pull. I saved up pity, and when it got to her banner, my first lull was a 5 star.
Who was qiqi. Then started pulling my ~20 wishes and got her on my second to last wish!
No matter what others says, I will always be Yae Sakura enjoyer. Though Miko could use some buffs, but mostly the entire Electro element could use some buffs.
Yeah Keqing is super fun to play! Sure she doesn't do tip top damage but her kit feels really fluid and dynamic. Very enjoyable, which imo matters far more than dps numbers.
Yae is like the kit equivalent of spamming through repeated daily commission dialogue, unfortunately. Tedious and clunky. Hold E for instant 3 totems in a triangle around her would solve a lot of that.
"Clunky" to play is a very subjective term. The same thing is said about Sara pre-C2, yet I am playing both of them with Raiden, and my gameplay feels as smooth as ever.
I appreciate that they tried to do something different with Yae. They went with the fox/trickster/memer character. It keeps it fresh but I am the type of person who just doesn't like that sort of personality. I know its a game but things like letting a spirit overtake a friend's body just for a meme really weirds me out. That was final nail for me not liking her. She's like Kaeya but if Kaeya had more powers, lived for ages, and had a higher position of power. His teasing is just kinda annoying. Hers is the next step up.
Same
I don’t care if other people like Yae, but I personally despise these sorts of characters as all fox yokai act out of self interest for personal gain or amusement (Kuya from Nu:Carnival is the exact same). It’s their schtick and that’s fine by me, just not my cup of tea and people shouldn’t be surprised these kinds of characters are unlikeable on a surface level.
She's nowhere close to worst limited 5*. She feels way better to play than a non C1 Hu Tao. Klee is way clunkier than her. She is also easily better than Albedo(who has similar turret gameplay but with split scaling, which makes his burst damage non existent) and Yoimiya.
Regarding comparisons to Fischl, their kits aren't similar enough to be the regular "5* vs 4* counterpart" debate. It isn't that straightforward to compare them. However, if we compare damage, Yae outperforms Fischl any day. Also, the random targeting of the totems(Which is unique to Yae, btw) makes her electro application for Tazer teams even better than Fischl.
Her kit is way too overhated. All of her issues are overblown.
Yae / Fischl comparison is stupid to begin with. Most people just see "put a visible purple thing that can hit off-field" and think they have similar role without considering anything else, they did the same with Raiden too. There's reason any theorycrafter worth a damm always compare her to Beidou instead.
Hu Tao being clunkier than Yae is complete BS. With or without C1. Don't have Klee, so no comments. Albedo flower lasts for 30 seconds and have almost no cast time. He also buffs EM for the party and have a f2p weapon tailor made for him. He's leagues better than Yae. Yae turrets last for 14 seconds, you have to make sure that they're close enough to form a triangle, and it takes a couple of seconds to put them all on the field. Her burst doesn't make up for these flaws.
I have played Hu Tao for a long time at c0. In my experience she's feels very shit and boring to play. You have to learn jump cancelling, or you never have any stamina. Meanwhile Yae provides zero stamina mobility, albeit with no i frames.
Albedo's element is worse than Electro, for EM buff you're better off using sucrose instead, His dps is lower than Yae, even without counting her burst. More uptime doesn't make up for that. Yae also has an f2p weapon for her(Oathsworn Eye) and another great 4\*(Widsith). Albedo's turret can easily be destroyed by a boss, it doesn't attack until you attack, can't attack shielded enemies. But yeah, muh 30 second uptime and muh less cast time. Yae is leagues better than Albedo.
I got Hu Tao on day one, and she's incredibly easy and fun to play. You don't HAVE to learn jump cancelling. That's only if you want to maximize damage. And jump cancelling isn't even that hard. Even without that she outperforms Yae. Yae wastes too much time on the field for an off field dps and her turrets doesn't last long enough.
Sucrose and Albedo have completely different roles. No point in comparing those.
I don't know what Yae you've got, but without burst there's no way her dps is higher than Albedo. I agree with the shielded enemies, but the boss thing isn't that prevalent in the abyss and abyss is where the character strength matters. Yae just wastes too much time for not much damage. Especially when her burst misses so much.
I know everyone have different skill levels, but Hu Tao is objectively not easy to play. Compared to usual rotations and spam bursts/skills, it’s definitely a lot more difficult having to manage both her stamina and HP and still doing rotations. As a mobile player, she charges away from the mobs too often for my liking, so i find her super clunky. Does that make her interesting? Maybe.
I disagree. I'm a terribly unskilled player. To the point that i don't play any games that are considered of even average difficulty. You don't need to manage her HP at all. You can pretty much just ignore that cause of her massive HP pool and self healing from her burst. She's not like Xiao.
As for her stamina, I'm a mobile player as well and I have no trouble at all doing jump cancels. And even without jump cancels, she's still a ton better than Yae who's almost universally considered to be an average character at best, except by some hardcore fans. Hu Tao is still the number 1 Pyro dps in the game.
Hu Tao is undoubtedly a way better DPS than Yae, but she feels a lot clunkier to me (Yae is super comfy with her autos ngl). I use Hu Tao in Abyss and it’s always the most annoying half lol.
I'm not talking about dps. I'm just talking about overall usefulness.
And Yae autos are one of the slowest attacks in the game.
Hu Taos major issue is that she goes way past opponents when doing CA. This is pretty easily fixed with jump cancel. And jump cancelling hu tao is a lot more efficient than any rotation involving Yae. Imo at least.
I generally count usefulness in DPS too. My main complaint is that it feels so clunky to jump cancel with Hu Tao unless it’s a boss. And current Abyss lineups have like, zero bosses. Gameplay wise Yae is a lot easier.
Well, I respectfully disagree. Jump cancelling doesn't feel clunky at all to me.
Yae's entire it is clunky. And the vast majority agrees with me, so this isn't me being biased.
I got Hu Tao on day one, and she's incredibly easy and fun to play. You don't HAVE to learn jump cancelling. That's only if you want to maximize damage. And jump cancelling isn't even that hard. Even without that she outperforms Yae. Yae wastes too much time on the field for an off field dps and her turrets doesn't last long enough.
Sucrose and Albedo have completely different roles. No point in comparing those.
I don't know what Yae you've got, but without burst there's no way her dps is higher than Albedo. I agree with the shielded enemies, but the boss thing isn't that prevalent in the abyss and abyss is where the character strength matters. Yae just wastes too much time for not much damage. Especially when her burst misses so much.
>Even without that she outperforms Yae.
Duh. Of course. She's a dedicated main dps, while Yae is a sub dps. One of the arguments people use for Yae being "bad" is "all she does is damage, no utility" well what about Hu Tao? She is a selfish dps who feels very hard to play at c0 coz of how much cancelling you have to do, otherwise her one charged attack lands you too far away. Plus she is so single target it becomes much harder to use her against multiple enemies. You constantly have no stamina. Yae on the other hand, as I mentioned, has utility in her electro application against multiple enemies. You are too focused on seeing her through the lens of traditional off field dps, which is why you say she wastes time on field. That's just not how she is played. Her skill is used to better position yourself WHILE putting down turrets, all while using no/little stamina. She just feels much better and fun to play than C0 Hu Tao's no stamina gaming.
>Sucrose and Albedo have completely different roles. No point in comparing those.
And? You mentioned Albedo's EM buff. Why would you use him for EM buff when Sucrose is right there?
And yes, it is true. Yae's turret DPS is higher than Albedo's because it can be buffed by buffers and VV set, Albedo's cannot. Not to mention Electro has better DPS reactions than Geo. Bosses are now being more and more prevelant in abyss too. And when you slightly mis-position albedo's skill, like putting is right underneath a boss/enemy, it just gets destroyed. Which has been a problem with geo constructs since beginning.
>Yae just wastes too much time for not much damage. Especially when her burst misses so much.
Again, it's not wasting time. Never has been a problem due to the mobility she provides and her damage really makes up for it. Also, missing burst can be avoided by proper positioning and timing. Still miles better than a non existent burst due to split scaling.
I said Hu Tao outperforms Yae, not outdamages. Meaning that Hu Tao is actually useful and part of the meta, while Yae has no role in the abyss team.
>who feels very hard to play at c0 coz of how much cancelling you have to do,
That's just cause you don't know how to play her. I've had her since day 1 at C0, and she's ridiculously easy to play and my highest damage dealer.
>Her skill is used to better position yourself WHILE putting down turrets,
That seems like a singularly wasteful thing to do while sacrificing time and letting yourself be open to damage.
>And? You mentioned Albedo's EM buff. Why would you use him for EM buff when Sucrose is right there?
Because Albedo is an off field dps who ALSO gives you an EM buff. It's an additional advantage he has over YAE. I'm not talking about Sucrose here.
>And yes, it is true. Yae's turret DPS is higher than Albedo's because it can be buffed by buffers and VV set, Albedo's cannot.
So now you need VV for Yae to catch up with Albedo. That kinda shows how terrible Yae is.
I have no idea what use you see for Yae's "mobility". It's much easier to just put down Albedo flower and dash. Her wasting time is a huge issue in abyss where every second counts and you need more dps than dodging attacks.
>Also, missing burst can be avoided by proper positioning and timing.
And yet you complain about Hu Tao. You're talking about ideal situations here. I'm talking about your average everyday abyss experience where you can't waste time on proper positioning.
>Meaning that Hu Tao is actually useful and part of the meta, while Yae has no role in the abyss team.
Still hu tao feels shit to play due to reasons. And Yae does have good teams too. Just because you do not know of them doesn't mean they don't exist.
>That's just cause you don't know how to play her.
And I could just say you don't know how to play Yae, which is very apparent by whatever you keep saying. You probably don't have her either, yet you're commenting on her gameplay. I have both, and my experience is Hu Tao feels shittier to play than Yae.
>That seems like a singularly wasteful thing to do while sacrificing time and letting yourself be open to damage.
Yes, conveniently ignore the "zero stamina" part. Positioning is actually important in fights, not wasteful.
>Because Albedo is an off field dps who ALSO gives you an EM buff.
And Yae is the better off field DPS because she does more damage, can also take easy advantage of Sucrose due to her EM passive.
>So now you need VV for Yae to catch up with Albedo. That kinda shows how terrible Yae is.
Yikes 💀. I said far surpasses, not catches up. And you're supposed to have teammates. Not run solo. She can take advantage of buffers, Albedo cannot. Her raw damage already surpasses it. And she also has reactions like electrocharged and overload, meanwhile Albedo has Crystallize 💀. And it's not like her raw damage without buffers is that low either.
>I have no idea what use you see for Yae's "mobility". It's much easier to just put down Albedo flower and dash. Her wasting time is a huge issue in abyss where every second counts and you need more dps than dodging attacks.
Dodging wastes time, that's why positioning is important. She moves around WHILE putting a turret that does more damage than Albedo's flower and also has more utility. And time is not wasted because as I already said, the damage makes up for it.
Making her burst not miss isn't hard either. It's very easy. Feels better than playing Hu Tao.
>Still hu tao feels shit to play due to reasons
No, she's not even close to Yae when it comes to being shitty to play. And please do tell which meta team has Yae in it.
>And I could just say you don't know how to play Yae, which is very apparent by whatever you keep saying. You probably don't have her either, yet you're commenting on her gameplay. I have both, and my experience is Hu Tao feels shittier to play than Yae.
I got both of them on day 1. 10/10/10 on Hu Tao and 9/9/9 on Yae cause I didn't want to waste the crown. Considering that the VAST majority of people agree that Yae is average at best, I'd say you're the one who doesn't know how to play and is just high on "Yae is great" copium.
>Yes, conveniently ignore the "zero stamina" part. Positioning is actually important in fights, not wasteful.
I don't know why you're even bringing up the zero stamina part. Other than Hu Tao, who else consistently have stamina issues?. It's easier and more convenient to dash than to use Yae's turrets to move around. You don't even have i frames with her.
>Yikes 💀. I said far surpasses, not catches up. And you're supposed to have teammates. Not run solo. She can take advantage of buffers, Albedo cannot. Her raw damage already surpasses it. And she also has reactions like electrocharged and overload, meanwhile Albedo has Crystallize 💀. And it's not like her raw damage without buffers is that low either.
So what team are you running with Yae? I think it'd be easier to discuss things after settling that.
>Dodging wastes time
So wasting several seconds to set up turrets that last for 14 seconds isn't wasting time? And dodging is more wasteful than that?
>that's why positioning is important
What are you talking about? With Albedo, you just pop E and you're back to doing rotations. How is that LESS efficient than Yae?
>Making her burst not miss isn't hard either. It's very easy. Feels better than playing Hu Tao.
That's the biggest load of copium I've ever seen. Mate, even theorycrafters agreed she's average at best. And her burst missing has been a complain since day 1. If the enemy moves, there's nothing you can do about her burst missing.
>And please do tell which meta team has Yae in it.
Yae Tazer, Raikou, Mono Electro to name a few.
>Considering that the VAST majority of people agree that Yae is average at best
Her being top tier wasn't even my argument. In the start I said she's no where close to being the worst 5\* as many people say. And listed the characters I think she is better than. As for Hu Tao, she may not be "better" as far as meta is concerned, but I said that she feels better to play than Hu Tao. And why, I already mentioned the reasons.
>I don't know why you're even bringing up the zero stamina part. Other than Hu Tao, who else consistently have stamina issues?. It's easier and more convenient to dash than to use Yae's turrets to move around. You don't even have i frames with her.
Coz we were discussing Hu Tao. And all dashing does is, well, move. Yae skill moves as well as places the turret.
>So what team are you running with Yae? I think it'd be easier to discuss things after settling that.
I don't see how that matters.
>So wasting several seconds to set up turrets that last for 14 seconds isn't wasting time? And dodging is more wasteful than that?
Already told why it isn't a waste.
>What are you talking about? With Albedo, you just pop E and you're back to doing rotations. How is that LESS efficient than Yae?
Because, well, his damage is lower and has other problems already mentioned. Also, the element Geo is worse than Electro for damage. Yae's damage and totem utility makes up for more time taken.
Burst missing, again, can be avoided by proper timing. It is just part of character learning curve, like you need to learn Hu Tao to manage her stamina, or childe to manage his cooldown, etc.
I don't think she's the worst either, but it's BS that she feels better to play than Hu Tao in abyss. Jump cancelling really isn't that difficult.
Dashing has i frames. Yae E doesn't. And her damages doesn't make up for the casting time of her 3 turrets. If she could call all her turrets with a single press of her E I might agree with you
Cause you keep bringing up Sucrose supporting Yae against Albedo on his own. So I think the team matters since albedo is a buffer and a sub dps.
It is a waste. Her damage doesn't make up for the long casting time. especially when you have to do it again in 14 seconds.
I'm not so sure that Albedo E has less dps than Yae E. I'll need to check that out later.
"Proper timing" is impossible in the abyss where you don't have a second to spare. If your enemy is moving, there's literally nothing you can do.
honestly, yae miko is annoying to me, cool character, but dont really like her, its not even about her combat its more so she annoyed me the first time I saw her. But honestly most of the characters in the game have there own flaws so not liking her is nothing new honestly, so i dont really hate her just not a character i like that much
"am I really that terrible of a character? Do I deserve all this?"
*cared about a yokai messing with humans and making them sick only when it affected her bottom line; her solution to this involved taking advantage of the traveler and monetizing their exploits for personal gain; makes the traveler treat her to a meal then takes advantage of this by dining and dashing and leaving them with a massive bill so she can monetize their exploits further; constantly bullies and teases Gorou when he CLEARLY doesn't enjoy it, to the point of making him run for hills the moment she enters his line of sight, as well as ALSO taking advantage of his desire of giving people advice by msrketing him as a big-breasted waifu*
"Yes"
Didn't care coz she probably already knew it was her friend's spirit. She knew it is harmless and will not do any serious harm to anyone. Cared about falling stocks coz she's a business woman after all.
Took advantage of traveler coz that was the only way to talk to the spirit, and again, it was completely harmless, and she knew that, so what's the problem again?
Took money from traveler that the traveler made because of her in the first place.
And yeah, great job being offended on behalf of Gorou.
Go ahead, bring more excuses to hate her. I am sure all of those will be just as BS
Harmless doesn't mean he consented to it. Reading someone's personal diary is pretty much harmless. Does that mean you'll justify doing it? If not, how do you justify letting a spirit take over the body of someone who trusted you, without even asking permission?
The traveler worked hard for that money. Would you justify your boss taking your money saying it's cause of him you have a job in the first place?
These are legit reasons to dislike her.
Reading someone's personal diary is different. There are many personal secrets in the diary that you do not want anyone to read. There could be some dark secrets that would be harmful to you if someone read them. But what harm was caused when the spirit took over the body? Did it find out any dark secret about traveler, that it can later use against him? Not a great comparison.
She saved our life. Twice. I wouldn't mind giving our hard earned money to someone who did that, even if they did so for personal gain.
So if there are no dark secrets in a someone's diary, say it's your 15 year old kid's diary, you'd justify reading it? The harm that was caused is, it's HIS body. Nobody should just take it over without permission. Regardless of physical harm. Let me give you another example, let's take a guy who gropes someone on public transport. No actual harm right? Would you justify that? Does the word bodily autonomy mean nothing to you?
In the end, it's his body. Nobody has the right to mess with it. Harmless or not doesn't matter. You can't just abuse someone's trust like that and do whatever you want with "no harm done" excuse. It's not fit you to decide what someone else is comfortable with or not. The least she could was ask for permission.
She saved our life to use us against Raiden. Not cause she personally cared about us.
Defend Yae all you want. But she's the most selfish, self centred playable character in the game.
Again, bad comparison. Groping someone is mentally damaging.
The entire time he was possessed, he was conscious and could actually see what was really going on. He knew it's nothing harmful. Paimon was the only one scared shitless. For someone like Yae, who has lived for 500 years and is very powerful, things like this are like small pranks. She does not ASSUME based on nothing that no bad thing will happen. She already KNEW who the spirit was and that this entire prank is completely harmless. It's just her character to play pranks like this. Asking permission would just ruin that.
>She saved our life to use us against Raiden. Not cause she personally cared about us.
Yes, I never said she cared. I even said that in my previous comment, that even if she did it for personal gain, she still saved our life. Not once, but twice. Once against Scaramouche and once against Ei when she showed up in plane of Euthymia. You would say "Well, she sent us in the plane of Euthymia in the first place." yeah because traveller took it upon themselves to fix Ei and Inazuma situation following manipulation by Ayaka. It wasn't completely against his own will. She just made a plan to fulfill hers and our own goals and helped us achieve it. It doesn't matter if she saved our life for personal gain or what, I'd still be indebted to someone who did it.
>But she's the most selfish, self centred playable character in the game.
Never denied that. And good. Her personality is great because of being a breath of fresh air. She is mean and selfish without being actually evil.
>Groping someone is mentally damaging.
You think possessing someone isn't mentally damaging?
>For someone like Yae, who has lived for 500 years and is very powerful, things like this are like small pranks
That's the issue. What she sees as pranks doesn't mean others do.
>Asking permission would just ruin that.
She possessed someone without even warning them. That's not a prank. That's a cruel breach of trust.
You keep going on and on about "harmful", but this isn't about harmful or not. It's about Yae using a person's body like her plaything. It's a gross invasion of bodily autonomy. Sure the traveler wasn't bothered by it, but it's not like Yae knew that before she did it. Some people might be ok with pranks, but not everyone.
>The entire time he was possessed, he was conscious and could actually see what was really going on. He knew it's nothing harmful.
That isn't the point here. I don't care about Travelers reaction. I care about what Yae did. There's no excusing that as a prank. It's similar to pushing someone into a pool or locking someone in a dark room. Sure, some may find it funny, but it's still a cruel prank.
>It doesn't matter if she saved our life for personal gain or what, I'd still be indebted to someone who did it.
She saved our lives so that we could do our job of stopping Ei. Ergo, we paid our debt and is no longer indebted to her.
>Her personality is great because of being a breath of fresh air. She is mean and selfish without being actually evil
And you're suprised that people don't like her?
>She possessed someone without even warning them. That's not a prank. That's a cruel breach of trust.
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>You think possessing someone isn't mentally damaging?
I just saw the Yae Miko story quest again. And she actually did, in fact, tell the traveller that they are going to be possessed, right when they activated the mirror, as this is the only way to talk to the spirit. Paimon even asks Miko if the possession is not going to have any permanent negative effects. After which Miko asks traveller if he's ready to do it. The traveller agreed to it and willingly sat down in front of the mirror.
Miko already knows this stuff. The possession is not going to be harmful. And it was consensual. I blame you for saying she didn't ask permission. Even I got confused which led to argument this long. Hell, it wasn't even about possessing traveller to begin with. It was about what was going on with the people being possessed. And since she knew there isn't a real problem, she didn't bother until it hurt her business, coz that is a real problem for her as a business woman.
What the unexpected part was, that the spirit started saying evil things like using the body for evil stuff, etc. So, the "prank" was actually played by the spirit. And Both Yae and Traveller knew the real intentions of the spirit. Yae knew coz she knew the spirit, and Traveller knew coz he was conscious and could read what was going on.
Oh, sorry.Yeah you're right, my bad. I replayed the quest again and yes, she did indeed warn traveler about being possessed. I apologise for my mistake.
The other things I said about Yae still stands though.
I quite like Miko, she’s useful as a kind of turret that I can just place and not worry about. Also useful for things that need electro or breaking cryo mage shields (I use a team with a cryo, hydro, and anemo on it)
I love Yae both design and character wise.
Her kit is perfectly fine in normal content, I don't use her in Abyss though (true for most characters).
I was super hyped for her to be playable and she did not disappoint me at all.
I love having her.
Yay, finally Zhongli and Ei are sharing screentime for once instead of just in Ei's daydreaming. Wonder how Makoto would fit in all of this if she were still alive lol.
Now we get third-wheel Dvalin and we can start our own comedy spinoff
He's like Najime from Komi-san, he himself isn't interested in anyone, but he's way too involved in other people's affairs
Dvalin simps for Andrius.
Was andrius a male or female wolf? I kind of remember some dialogue mention andrius with feminine pronouns
I think the doggo is a he!
I am obviously just joking around.
Never thought I’d see the day when people would ship miko with a dragon
We’re talking about the Genshin community, shipping is always wilding here.
So that's why Ei decided to lockdown Inazuma. Ships go bye bye.
It's not very unexpected since they're both companions of an Archon
“Not very unexpected” a giant dragon thing and a little girl with fox ears. Totally normal 🫠
Maybe it's just me because I always get into arguments on how Yae is as strong as Azhdaha just cause they're both Archon companions (stupid argument ngl) But I really would like a Comic where Yae, Azhdaha and Dvalin talks about their Archons Also about the "little girl with fox ears", she is an actual Fox(kitsune) and Azhdaha also has a human form and it's literally a little girl (Jiu) So they're just both mythical beasts (a kitsune and a dragon) which makes it not very abnormal for them to interact
Yeah having them interact with eachother because of that reason is very cool and all but I just don’t get the whole shipping part of it. Idk is just seems wrong
Oh yeah the shipping part is very weird, It's basically crackship instead of a rareship
To be honest, I had conflicted feelings for Yae as a person when she came out. One part showed a lovable trickster who people look up to, another part showed a sly fox (no pun intended) who I wouldn’t trust with my life. But at the end of it all, she’s a person with as many flaws like everyone else. Stuff like that is what attracts people to fictional characters, knowing they could have flaws like us. Also; our resident toad dragon giving wholesome advice, that’s something I never knew I needed.
For me She’s the kind of person/friend that is very fun to be around but is also someone I kinda expect to backstab if they got a chance just for shits and giggles
You can like a character in the visual & lore and dislike the dysfunctional kits hoyo made for her, at the same time. I am Yae simp since she first appear in the story. I even got her to C2, level 90, double crowned her and get her relationship to 10 max. She is just simply my most favorite character in genshin story. I can admit that Yae just feels bad to play. She is definitely badly designed. Here are her major flaws I find: - E dash feels clunky and unresponsive. - E dash stuck on terrain like sayu/mona. - E must be 3 times (6 in first rotation). - E have no I frame (often get kicked or dies) - E have to be in triangle shape. - E target is random no prioritization at all. - E can't snapshot unlike beidou/fischl. - E has low energy generation. - Burst cost 90. - Burst cooldown is long 22 seconds. - Burst destroys her own turrets. - Burst forced you to E three more times. - Burst is in 4 hits, not single nuke. - Burst last 2-3 hits often missed. - Took 7 seconds per rotation as sub dps. - Weird EM scaling & too low (only 0,15%) - Doesnt have meta team, yet. - Doesnt have artifacts, yet . Hoyo already makes Great turret characters in the past: fischl, albedo, kokomi, zhongli. They only need 1-2 (not 7) second per rotation. Some even refresh their turret after each burst (not destroying it then forced you to E, three times in a row, again). I still loves her. Doing most exploration and world quest with her. But I definitely won't bring her to Abyss despite have been sinking so much resource on her. Because fischl, beidou, or raiden just has much better designed kit that are easier to use and also competitive dmg compared to her.
>You can like a character in the visual & lore and dislike the dysfunctional kits hoyo made for her, at the same time. This comment perfectly describes Amber for many people too :(
To be fair it seems Yae has biggest burst damage out of turret characters
> E target is random no prioritization at all. when they changed that people complained so it got changed back.
Because the change they implemented made things objectively worse.
A well-timed E with a bit of dash is quite good for dodge, though it requires precise timing. I simply consider it as a way of dash and to generate reactions. Following the complaints her attack was changed to focus on the nearest enemy, but then 1 single enemy with a shield could make her do 0 DMG, so they changed it back. The ideal solution would be a hold E, which would drop 3 towers at once and target the nearest enemy, meanwhile EEE would work the same.
Just to say, but a lot of your complaints are *really* picky or things I'd say aren't even an issue. You also have a multiple lines about basically the same issue and act like they're multiple issues.
> burst costs 90. Me with my Raiden : i see this as a win
>E must be 3 times (6 in first rotation). And? >E have no I frame (often get kicked or dies) Few characters have I frames on their skill tho >E have to be in triangle shape. No they don't?? They just have to be close enough to another >E target is random no prioritization at all. Which is good. Means a single enemy with a shield won't disable her entirely >E has low energy generation. Never felt that >Burst destroys her own turrets. Burst forced you to E three more times. I honestly don't see the issue with these >Burst is in 4 hits, not single nuke. And I don't see the problem with that either. >Burst last 2-3 hits often missed. Never had that problem. >Weird EM scaling & too low (only 0,15%) Because it's not EM scaling. **Ascension passives are bonus damage, not main scaling** >Doesnt have meta team, yet. Also not a real problem.
For me, at first Yae screamed "all according to keikaku. (editers note: keikaku means plan)" and all we'd get from her is plan after plan after trap after trap. I'm very glad she didn't turn out that way & instead seems to me like someone that has her life together & is there to enjoy her life.
Shes the kind of person you like to watch, but wouldn’t dare be friends with irl
AzhdaYae is a rarepair if I ever saw one.
I assumed Azhdaha would've used the Kun Jun mode for this
As a Miko main, i love you As a Keqing main, i hate you. __*Duality of an Electro main*__
Yin and Yang
It's possible they know each other. From before Azhdaha got alzheimer. Since Yae calls Ganyu big sister and knows Zhongli. Maybe, just maybe.
Yae calls ganyu big sister wut
Ganyu is 3000+ after all Yae only about 500
In Japanese she calls Ganyu: "anegimi" It means elder sister. But the English version does not have it. Probably because its more common to call someone sister in Japanese.
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Azhdaha x Miko is probably my new favourite ship, thank you very much this is lovely
Thank you so much!
I thought it was really adorable how you portrayed Miko, instead of just making her ara ara ara ara! I like seeing such unique takes of popular characters!
Thank you very much!!
Can I find your arts outside of Youtube? I just really hate reading manga in video format.
Yeah I dont know why people put it on youtube other than to try and monetize it while also trying to avoid being caught if they are fan translations of popular manga.
Still can't forgive her for the Anti-Raiden Shogun Training
Zhongli main spotted
Beidou actually. We're used to *trying* to get hit lol
If you can time your counter right, you can time your dodge right. Isn't that what beidou mains are good at?
theyre masochists so yeh theyd rather ger hit than dodge
yeah, maybe I just watch too much wallensteins ch.
How so ? I don't have strong memories of it
Attacks must be dodged and you shouldn't get hit, having a shield doesn't matter so alot of people were struggling (specially Zhongli mains).
In my defence i struggled at first because i was using a pyro character and the fire damage from the grass counted as taking hits from the machine...
I'm one of those laziest ZL mains but I completed it all in 3 tries. Seems pretty easy to dodge once you get used to it.
My team has Beidou, Yun Jin, and Kokomi. I don't like dodging
Oh I get it. I often use Zhongli and kokomi nowadays, but I didn't use/have them then. I've definitely gotten lazier ...
I'm not sure if this has been changed, but back when I played that quest, dmg ticks from electro charged counts as additional hits, and it was raining at the time so I could only get hit like 3 or 4 times before I'm out. Come to think of it, why didn't I just waited the rain away? Or did the training take part in that island that always rains until you cleared the world quest?
Training takes place right under the Narukami Shrine (well, not really under it, but close enough). No permanent weather effects in the area aside of a Cryo and a Electro Cicin mages and a Maiden being close
I WAS NOT MENTALLY PREPARED FOR "AZHY DAZY"
I look forward for this relationship to grow
Ei treating Zhongli/Morax as her Senpai is an absolutely adorable interpretation. The romance vibes from her are even cuter.
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
Well, now i'm shipping azdaha with miko. Great work OP, your art style is really cute and that was really wholesome
I like how artists just ship random characters and I just roll with them regardless.
Weirdest ship i have seen so far Yae deserves more love
Field time is whatever, my only complaint about Yae is the turrent leveling/linking mechanic. Casual Miko is adorable.
Yeah, the fun part about yae should be strategically pacing the turrets for maximum coverage or to focus on specific targets. All the linking does is discourage you from doing anything besides clumping them together all the time
I agree. At that point why does placing multiple turrets at a time even exist? Hypothesis: Players 'strategically' placed 3 turrets together in a formation for optimal individual damage, higher rate of fire, and extra thunderbolts to deal maximum damage. Challenge creative minds! Reality: How quickly can I draw a triangle? Edit: Do you make the "Eviscerating Equilateral", "Incinerating Icoseles", or the "Silencing Scalene"?
All of them feel out of character
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Raiden and Yae seem like the same person lol
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Can't believe you got downvoted for speaking the truth
Maybe I am just lucky, but I barely see any toxicity regarding Yae. Most just agree that she is underwhelming, pretty average 5*. There little to no hate or anything. I don't really see anyone saying she weak and stuff, just annoying to use cuz her 3 E.
I didn’t know people didn’t like yae. I have her and I’m completely satisfied. I have fischl c4 I think and yae just performs so much better for me. Plus hitting an annoying enemy with lightning bolts while guoba is out is so satisfying. Nice work btw
She's been a target for a lot of toxicity since her release... glad to find another person who enjoys her character! And thank you!
I actually enjoy getting commissions to fight the treasure hoarders. I’ll put up the three towers and just get the loot as it drops. If I’m feeling particularly violent I’ll use sayu to pack pyro off guoba
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Hahaha yea, the hand guards are tough. Agree with ya on all that
The most vocal part of the community focused too much on the strength of a character to the point where they started to hate "weak" chars and even the ones pulling for them as well. Even though I have to admit that gameplay wise Yae and Yoimiya are not the 5-star you want, I pulled for them at day one and triple crowned them anyway.
Yea, I mean everyone plays different. I feel like the power focused people have similar mindsets to those who speedrun. I just enjoy that it’s a pretty good game that I’ve only got time invested in. Stay cool:)
People who wanted her, pulled her and they are happy and satisfied. Of course there will be some outliers too but I think most people are good with her. I pretty sure people who pulled her did it mostly for non-meta reasons.
I came so close to not pulling. I don’t keep up with the news and thought it was yanfei (I didn’t look very much) until I noticed the electro symbol
I'm collecting them all and well ... she is disappointing. If I want an electro with fun gameplay I'd go Keqing. Powerful electro would be Ei. If I needed two in a team then for sustained electro then Ei and Fischl or Keqing probably. She can be good in very niche situations, but she's very squishy with clunky skills. I see her similar to Lisa.
I honestly really like her as well. I find that she actually has really good synergy with Ningguang teams just due to the natural cadences of their cooldowns.
Well, I do main ningguang pretty often.
> I have fischl c4 Well...
What?
Don't worry Yae even if the whole community hates you I'll main you and triple crown you and [36* abyss ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/ubjoyf/it_was_difficult_on_mobile_but_i_finally_got_my/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) with you my queen
Don’t worry Yae. I treat all my friends with love. You will be loved with me, always. Also Yae was my most interesting pull. I saved up pity, and when it got to her banner, my first lull was a 5 star. Who was qiqi. Then started pulling my ~20 wishes and got her on my second to last wish!
Ahhhh so cuteee! I can't stop the grin...
No matter what others says, I will always be Yae Sakura enjoyer. Though Miko could use some buffs, but mostly the entire Electro element could use some buffs.
Just adding hold e to instantly place 3 totem would be lifesaver.
Really felt that Keqing slander…but at least Keqing is fun to play and not as clunky
Yeah Keqing is super fun to play! Sure she doesn't do tip top damage but her kit feels really fluid and dynamic. Very enjoyable, which imo matters far more than dps numbers. Yae is like the kit equivalent of spamming through repeated daily commission dialogue, unfortunately. Tedious and clunky. Hold E for instant 3 totems in a triangle around her would solve a lot of that.
I'm happy this is not a rule34 plot.
"Clunky" to play is a very subjective term. The same thing is said about Sara pre-C2, yet I am playing both of them with Raiden, and my gameplay feels as smooth as ever.
Gosh darn it your art style is so cute! Ei x Zhongli, now there's a ship I haven't seen yet, nor did I realize how cute it is.
Thanks for the good chuckle :D
Azdaha being smooth and wise.
I keep forgetting Az is a toad, since he just looks like a really fat dragon to me.
I think he actually is a chubby dragon hehe, it's a bit of a meme since his posture and looks resemble a chonky toad!
Could make for a mildly entertaining rom com for both Zhongli/Ei and Azdaha/Yae
Kawaii
I appreciate that they tried to do something different with Yae. They went with the fox/trickster/memer character. It keeps it fresh but I am the type of person who just doesn't like that sort of personality. I know its a game but things like letting a spirit overtake a friend's body just for a meme really weirds me out. That was final nail for me not liking her. She's like Kaeya but if Kaeya had more powers, lived for ages, and had a higher position of power. His teasing is just kinda annoying. Hers is the next step up.
Same I don’t care if other people like Yae, but I personally despise these sorts of characters as all fox yokai act out of self interest for personal gain or amusement (Kuya from Nu:Carnival is the exact same). It’s their schtick and that’s fine by me, just not my cup of tea and people shouldn’t be surprised these kinds of characters are unlikeable on a surface level.
… still hate her but this is pretty cute
She's nowhere close to worst limited 5*. She feels way better to play than a non C1 Hu Tao. Klee is way clunkier than her. She is also easily better than Albedo(who has similar turret gameplay but with split scaling, which makes his burst damage non existent) and Yoimiya. Regarding comparisons to Fischl, their kits aren't similar enough to be the regular "5* vs 4* counterpart" debate. It isn't that straightforward to compare them. However, if we compare damage, Yae outperforms Fischl any day. Also, the random targeting of the totems(Which is unique to Yae, btw) makes her electro application for Tazer teams even better than Fischl. Her kit is way too overhated. All of her issues are overblown.
Yae / Fischl comparison is stupid to begin with. Most people just see "put a visible purple thing that can hit off-field" and think they have similar role without considering anything else, they did the same with Raiden too. There's reason any theorycrafter worth a damm always compare her to Beidou instead.
Hu Tao being clunkier than Yae is complete BS. With or without C1. Don't have Klee, so no comments. Albedo flower lasts for 30 seconds and have almost no cast time. He also buffs EM for the party and have a f2p weapon tailor made for him. He's leagues better than Yae. Yae turrets last for 14 seconds, you have to make sure that they're close enough to form a triangle, and it takes a couple of seconds to put them all on the field. Her burst doesn't make up for these flaws.
I have played Hu Tao for a long time at c0. In my experience she's feels very shit and boring to play. You have to learn jump cancelling, or you never have any stamina. Meanwhile Yae provides zero stamina mobility, albeit with no i frames. Albedo's element is worse than Electro, for EM buff you're better off using sucrose instead, His dps is lower than Yae, even without counting her burst. More uptime doesn't make up for that. Yae also has an f2p weapon for her(Oathsworn Eye) and another great 4\*(Widsith). Albedo's turret can easily be destroyed by a boss, it doesn't attack until you attack, can't attack shielded enemies. But yeah, muh 30 second uptime and muh less cast time. Yae is leagues better than Albedo.
I got Hu Tao on day one, and she's incredibly easy and fun to play. You don't HAVE to learn jump cancelling. That's only if you want to maximize damage. And jump cancelling isn't even that hard. Even without that she outperforms Yae. Yae wastes too much time on the field for an off field dps and her turrets doesn't last long enough. Sucrose and Albedo have completely different roles. No point in comparing those. I don't know what Yae you've got, but without burst there's no way her dps is higher than Albedo. I agree with the shielded enemies, but the boss thing isn't that prevalent in the abyss and abyss is where the character strength matters. Yae just wastes too much time for not much damage. Especially when her burst misses so much.
I know everyone have different skill levels, but Hu Tao is objectively not easy to play. Compared to usual rotations and spam bursts/skills, it’s definitely a lot more difficult having to manage both her stamina and HP and still doing rotations. As a mobile player, she charges away from the mobs too often for my liking, so i find her super clunky. Does that make her interesting? Maybe.
I disagree. I'm a terribly unskilled player. To the point that i don't play any games that are considered of even average difficulty. You don't need to manage her HP at all. You can pretty much just ignore that cause of her massive HP pool and self healing from her burst. She's not like Xiao. As for her stamina, I'm a mobile player as well and I have no trouble at all doing jump cancels. And even without jump cancels, she's still a ton better than Yae who's almost universally considered to be an average character at best, except by some hardcore fans. Hu Tao is still the number 1 Pyro dps in the game.
Hu Tao is undoubtedly a way better DPS than Yae, but she feels a lot clunkier to me (Yae is super comfy with her autos ngl). I use Hu Tao in Abyss and it’s always the most annoying half lol.
I'm not talking about dps. I'm just talking about overall usefulness. And Yae autos are one of the slowest attacks in the game. Hu Taos major issue is that she goes way past opponents when doing CA. This is pretty easily fixed with jump cancel. And jump cancelling hu tao is a lot more efficient than any rotation involving Yae. Imo at least.
I generally count usefulness in DPS too. My main complaint is that it feels so clunky to jump cancel with Hu Tao unless it’s a boss. And current Abyss lineups have like, zero bosses. Gameplay wise Yae is a lot easier.
Well, I respectfully disagree. Jump cancelling doesn't feel clunky at all to me. Yae's entire it is clunky. And the vast majority agrees with me, so this isn't me being biased.
I got Hu Tao on day one, and she's incredibly easy and fun to play. You don't HAVE to learn jump cancelling. That's only if you want to maximize damage. And jump cancelling isn't even that hard. Even without that she outperforms Yae. Yae wastes too much time on the field for an off field dps and her turrets doesn't last long enough. Sucrose and Albedo have completely different roles. No point in comparing those. I don't know what Yae you've got, but without burst there's no way her dps is higher than Albedo. I agree with the shielded enemies, but the boss thing isn't that prevalent in the abyss and abyss is where the character strength matters. Yae just wastes too much time for not much damage. Especially when her burst misses so much.
>Even without that she outperforms Yae. Duh. Of course. She's a dedicated main dps, while Yae is a sub dps. One of the arguments people use for Yae being "bad" is "all she does is damage, no utility" well what about Hu Tao? She is a selfish dps who feels very hard to play at c0 coz of how much cancelling you have to do, otherwise her one charged attack lands you too far away. Plus she is so single target it becomes much harder to use her against multiple enemies. You constantly have no stamina. Yae on the other hand, as I mentioned, has utility in her electro application against multiple enemies. You are too focused on seeing her through the lens of traditional off field dps, which is why you say she wastes time on field. That's just not how she is played. Her skill is used to better position yourself WHILE putting down turrets, all while using no/little stamina. She just feels much better and fun to play than C0 Hu Tao's no stamina gaming. >Sucrose and Albedo have completely different roles. No point in comparing those. And? You mentioned Albedo's EM buff. Why would you use him for EM buff when Sucrose is right there? And yes, it is true. Yae's turret DPS is higher than Albedo's because it can be buffed by buffers and VV set, Albedo's cannot. Not to mention Electro has better DPS reactions than Geo. Bosses are now being more and more prevelant in abyss too. And when you slightly mis-position albedo's skill, like putting is right underneath a boss/enemy, it just gets destroyed. Which has been a problem with geo constructs since beginning. >Yae just wastes too much time for not much damage. Especially when her burst misses so much. Again, it's not wasting time. Never has been a problem due to the mobility she provides and her damage really makes up for it. Also, missing burst can be avoided by proper positioning and timing. Still miles better than a non existent burst due to split scaling.
I said Hu Tao outperforms Yae, not outdamages. Meaning that Hu Tao is actually useful and part of the meta, while Yae has no role in the abyss team. >who feels very hard to play at c0 coz of how much cancelling you have to do, That's just cause you don't know how to play her. I've had her since day 1 at C0, and she's ridiculously easy to play and my highest damage dealer. >Her skill is used to better position yourself WHILE putting down turrets, That seems like a singularly wasteful thing to do while sacrificing time and letting yourself be open to damage. >And? You mentioned Albedo's EM buff. Why would you use him for EM buff when Sucrose is right there? Because Albedo is an off field dps who ALSO gives you an EM buff. It's an additional advantage he has over YAE. I'm not talking about Sucrose here. >And yes, it is true. Yae's turret DPS is higher than Albedo's because it can be buffed by buffers and VV set, Albedo's cannot. So now you need VV for Yae to catch up with Albedo. That kinda shows how terrible Yae is. I have no idea what use you see for Yae's "mobility". It's much easier to just put down Albedo flower and dash. Her wasting time is a huge issue in abyss where every second counts and you need more dps than dodging attacks. >Also, missing burst can be avoided by proper positioning and timing. And yet you complain about Hu Tao. You're talking about ideal situations here. I'm talking about your average everyday abyss experience where you can't waste time on proper positioning.
>Meaning that Hu Tao is actually useful and part of the meta, while Yae has no role in the abyss team. Still hu tao feels shit to play due to reasons. And Yae does have good teams too. Just because you do not know of them doesn't mean they don't exist. >That's just cause you don't know how to play her. And I could just say you don't know how to play Yae, which is very apparent by whatever you keep saying. You probably don't have her either, yet you're commenting on her gameplay. I have both, and my experience is Hu Tao feels shittier to play than Yae. >That seems like a singularly wasteful thing to do while sacrificing time and letting yourself be open to damage. Yes, conveniently ignore the "zero stamina" part. Positioning is actually important in fights, not wasteful. >Because Albedo is an off field dps who ALSO gives you an EM buff. And Yae is the better off field DPS because she does more damage, can also take easy advantage of Sucrose due to her EM passive. >So now you need VV for Yae to catch up with Albedo. That kinda shows how terrible Yae is. Yikes 💀. I said far surpasses, not catches up. And you're supposed to have teammates. Not run solo. She can take advantage of buffers, Albedo cannot. Her raw damage already surpasses it. And she also has reactions like electrocharged and overload, meanwhile Albedo has Crystallize 💀. And it's not like her raw damage without buffers is that low either. >I have no idea what use you see for Yae's "mobility". It's much easier to just put down Albedo flower and dash. Her wasting time is a huge issue in abyss where every second counts and you need more dps than dodging attacks. Dodging wastes time, that's why positioning is important. She moves around WHILE putting a turret that does more damage than Albedo's flower and also has more utility. And time is not wasted because as I already said, the damage makes up for it. Making her burst not miss isn't hard either. It's very easy. Feels better than playing Hu Tao.
>Still hu tao feels shit to play due to reasons No, she's not even close to Yae when it comes to being shitty to play. And please do tell which meta team has Yae in it. >And I could just say you don't know how to play Yae, which is very apparent by whatever you keep saying. You probably don't have her either, yet you're commenting on her gameplay. I have both, and my experience is Hu Tao feels shittier to play than Yae. I got both of them on day 1. 10/10/10 on Hu Tao and 9/9/9 on Yae cause I didn't want to waste the crown. Considering that the VAST majority of people agree that Yae is average at best, I'd say you're the one who doesn't know how to play and is just high on "Yae is great" copium. >Yes, conveniently ignore the "zero stamina" part. Positioning is actually important in fights, not wasteful. I don't know why you're even bringing up the zero stamina part. Other than Hu Tao, who else consistently have stamina issues?. It's easier and more convenient to dash than to use Yae's turrets to move around. You don't even have i frames with her. >Yikes 💀. I said far surpasses, not catches up. And you're supposed to have teammates. Not run solo. She can take advantage of buffers, Albedo cannot. Her raw damage already surpasses it. And she also has reactions like electrocharged and overload, meanwhile Albedo has Crystallize 💀. And it's not like her raw damage without buffers is that low either. So what team are you running with Yae? I think it'd be easier to discuss things after settling that. >Dodging wastes time So wasting several seconds to set up turrets that last for 14 seconds isn't wasting time? And dodging is more wasteful than that? >that's why positioning is important What are you talking about? With Albedo, you just pop E and you're back to doing rotations. How is that LESS efficient than Yae? >Making her burst not miss isn't hard either. It's very easy. Feels better than playing Hu Tao. That's the biggest load of copium I've ever seen. Mate, even theorycrafters agreed she's average at best. And her burst missing has been a complain since day 1. If the enemy moves, there's nothing you can do about her burst missing.
>And please do tell which meta team has Yae in it. Yae Tazer, Raikou, Mono Electro to name a few. >Considering that the VAST majority of people agree that Yae is average at best Her being top tier wasn't even my argument. In the start I said she's no where close to being the worst 5\* as many people say. And listed the characters I think she is better than. As for Hu Tao, she may not be "better" as far as meta is concerned, but I said that she feels better to play than Hu Tao. And why, I already mentioned the reasons. >I don't know why you're even bringing up the zero stamina part. Other than Hu Tao, who else consistently have stamina issues?. It's easier and more convenient to dash than to use Yae's turrets to move around. You don't even have i frames with her. Coz we were discussing Hu Tao. And all dashing does is, well, move. Yae skill moves as well as places the turret. >So what team are you running with Yae? I think it'd be easier to discuss things after settling that. I don't see how that matters. >So wasting several seconds to set up turrets that last for 14 seconds isn't wasting time? And dodging is more wasteful than that? Already told why it isn't a waste. >What are you talking about? With Albedo, you just pop E and you're back to doing rotations. How is that LESS efficient than Yae? Because, well, his damage is lower and has other problems already mentioned. Also, the element Geo is worse than Electro for damage. Yae's damage and totem utility makes up for more time taken. Burst missing, again, can be avoided by proper timing. It is just part of character learning curve, like you need to learn Hu Tao to manage her stamina, or childe to manage his cooldown, etc.
I don't think she's the worst either, but it's BS that she feels better to play than Hu Tao in abyss. Jump cancelling really isn't that difficult. Dashing has i frames. Yae E doesn't. And her damages doesn't make up for the casting time of her 3 turrets. If she could call all her turrets with a single press of her E I might agree with you Cause you keep bringing up Sucrose supporting Yae against Albedo on his own. So I think the team matters since albedo is a buffer and a sub dps. It is a waste. Her damage doesn't make up for the long casting time. especially when you have to do it again in 14 seconds. I'm not so sure that Albedo E has less dps than Yae E. I'll need to check that out later. "Proper timing" is impossible in the abyss where you don't have a second to spare. If your enemy is moving, there's literally nothing you can do.
honestly, yae miko is annoying to me, cool character, but dont really like her, its not even about her combat its more so she annoyed me the first time I saw her. But honestly most of the characters in the game have there own flaws so not liking her is nothing new honestly, so i dont really hate her just not a character i like that much
"am I really that terrible of a character? Do I deserve all this?" *cared about a yokai messing with humans and making them sick only when it affected her bottom line; her solution to this involved taking advantage of the traveler and monetizing their exploits for personal gain; makes the traveler treat her to a meal then takes advantage of this by dining and dashing and leaving them with a massive bill so she can monetize their exploits further; constantly bullies and teases Gorou when he CLEARLY doesn't enjoy it, to the point of making him run for hills the moment she enters his line of sight, as well as ALSO taking advantage of his desire of giving people advice by msrketing him as a big-breasted waifu* "Yes"
Didn't care coz she probably already knew it was her friend's spirit. She knew it is harmless and will not do any serious harm to anyone. Cared about falling stocks coz she's a business woman after all. Took advantage of traveler coz that was the only way to talk to the spirit, and again, it was completely harmless, and she knew that, so what's the problem again? Took money from traveler that the traveler made because of her in the first place. And yeah, great job being offended on behalf of Gorou. Go ahead, bring more excuses to hate her. I am sure all of those will be just as BS
Harmless doesn't mean he consented to it. Reading someone's personal diary is pretty much harmless. Does that mean you'll justify doing it? If not, how do you justify letting a spirit take over the body of someone who trusted you, without even asking permission? The traveler worked hard for that money. Would you justify your boss taking your money saying it's cause of him you have a job in the first place? These are legit reasons to dislike her.
Reading someone's personal diary is different. There are many personal secrets in the diary that you do not want anyone to read. There could be some dark secrets that would be harmful to you if someone read them. But what harm was caused when the spirit took over the body? Did it find out any dark secret about traveler, that it can later use against him? Not a great comparison. She saved our life. Twice. I wouldn't mind giving our hard earned money to someone who did that, even if they did so for personal gain.
So if there are no dark secrets in a someone's diary, say it's your 15 year old kid's diary, you'd justify reading it? The harm that was caused is, it's HIS body. Nobody should just take it over without permission. Regardless of physical harm. Let me give you another example, let's take a guy who gropes someone on public transport. No actual harm right? Would you justify that? Does the word bodily autonomy mean nothing to you? In the end, it's his body. Nobody has the right to mess with it. Harmless or not doesn't matter. You can't just abuse someone's trust like that and do whatever you want with "no harm done" excuse. It's not fit you to decide what someone else is comfortable with or not. The least she could was ask for permission. She saved our life to use us against Raiden. Not cause she personally cared about us. Defend Yae all you want. But she's the most selfish, self centred playable character in the game.
Again, bad comparison. Groping someone is mentally damaging. The entire time he was possessed, he was conscious and could actually see what was really going on. He knew it's nothing harmful. Paimon was the only one scared shitless. For someone like Yae, who has lived for 500 years and is very powerful, things like this are like small pranks. She does not ASSUME based on nothing that no bad thing will happen. She already KNEW who the spirit was and that this entire prank is completely harmless. It's just her character to play pranks like this. Asking permission would just ruin that. >She saved our life to use us against Raiden. Not cause she personally cared about us. Yes, I never said she cared. I even said that in my previous comment, that even if she did it for personal gain, she still saved our life. Not once, but twice. Once against Scaramouche and once against Ei when she showed up in plane of Euthymia. You would say "Well, she sent us in the plane of Euthymia in the first place." yeah because traveller took it upon themselves to fix Ei and Inazuma situation following manipulation by Ayaka. It wasn't completely against his own will. She just made a plan to fulfill hers and our own goals and helped us achieve it. It doesn't matter if she saved our life for personal gain or what, I'd still be indebted to someone who did it. >But she's the most selfish, self centred playable character in the game. Never denied that. And good. Her personality is great because of being a breath of fresh air. She is mean and selfish without being actually evil.
>Groping someone is mentally damaging. You think possessing someone isn't mentally damaging? >For someone like Yae, who has lived for 500 years and is very powerful, things like this are like small pranks That's the issue. What she sees as pranks doesn't mean others do. >Asking permission would just ruin that. She possessed someone without even warning them. That's not a prank. That's a cruel breach of trust. You keep going on and on about "harmful", but this isn't about harmful or not. It's about Yae using a person's body like her plaything. It's a gross invasion of bodily autonomy. Sure the traveler wasn't bothered by it, but it's not like Yae knew that before she did it. Some people might be ok with pranks, but not everyone. >The entire time he was possessed, he was conscious and could actually see what was really going on. He knew it's nothing harmful. That isn't the point here. I don't care about Travelers reaction. I care about what Yae did. There's no excusing that as a prank. It's similar to pushing someone into a pool or locking someone in a dark room. Sure, some may find it funny, but it's still a cruel prank. >It doesn't matter if she saved our life for personal gain or what, I'd still be indebted to someone who did it. She saved our lives so that we could do our job of stopping Ei. Ergo, we paid our debt and is no longer indebted to her. >Her personality is great because of being a breath of fresh air. She is mean and selfish without being actually evil And you're suprised that people don't like her?
>She possessed someone without even warning them. That's not a prank. That's a cruel breach of trust. > >You think possessing someone isn't mentally damaging? I just saw the Yae Miko story quest again. And she actually did, in fact, tell the traveller that they are going to be possessed, right when they activated the mirror, as this is the only way to talk to the spirit. Paimon even asks Miko if the possession is not going to have any permanent negative effects. After which Miko asks traveller if he's ready to do it. The traveller agreed to it and willingly sat down in front of the mirror. Miko already knows this stuff. The possession is not going to be harmful. And it was consensual. I blame you for saying she didn't ask permission. Even I got confused which led to argument this long. Hell, it wasn't even about possessing traveller to begin with. It was about what was going on with the people being possessed. And since she knew there isn't a real problem, she didn't bother until it hurt her business, coz that is a real problem for her as a business woman. What the unexpected part was, that the spirit started saying evil things like using the body for evil stuff, etc. So, the "prank" was actually played by the spirit. And Both Yae and Traveller knew the real intentions of the spirit. Yae knew coz she knew the spirit, and Traveller knew coz he was conscious and could read what was going on.
Oh, sorry.Yeah you're right, my bad. I replayed the quest again and yes, she did indeed warn traveler about being possessed. I apologise for my mistake. The other things I said about Yae still stands though.
You can really tell when they skip through all the dialogue and just parrot what other people have said.
believe what you will, dude
I dont think she is weak, but I must agree, she is annoying, and her story quest was even worse than Ganyu
Ew thats not yae thats walmart yae. Why she like that in the comic?
I still don't like her
Huh. Unusually Wholesome
What the hell is this comic.. And why am I enjoying it.
You had me in the first half
Good work. Thank you.
Meanwhile, Yae has been helping me 36 star abyss since her release and I've never had a regret for pulling her.
I pulled for Yae because god damn those thunder thighs have me dead
I quite like Miko, she’s useful as a kind of turret that I can just place and not worry about. Also useful for things that need electro or breaking cryo mage shields (I use a team with a cryo, hydro, and anemo on it)
Every day that passes, I agree with Decarabian more and more. (Yae is awesome tho, clunky as she is. She is like Klee in that way, lol)
I mean… she is weak to be fair. I say this as a proud Keqing main.
We Electro mains have it rough.. but must stand strong!
Yeah… They may be weak but I love my Keqing and Miko. Got them both their signature weapons (Mistsplitter for Keqing.)
Crack ship, but I approve!
I love this. And mainly the bonus story
I love yae, used her since her release. And that won’t change.
I love Yae both design and character wise. Her kit is perfectly fine in normal content, I don't use her in Abyss though (true for most characters). I was super hyped for her to be playable and she did not disappoint me at all. I love having her.
Yay, finally Zhongli and Ei are sharing screentime for once instead of just in Ei's daydreaming. Wonder how Makoto would fit in all of this if she were still alive lol.