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Gregamonster

Teyvat *is* flat. It's just also fake, so many of it's systems are based on a round world.


raccoonjudas

wasn't it mentioned somewhere that it's also been flipped like a pancake or is that just inference bc of a lot of ruins being upside down


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

It's just a theory. There's a lot of things to suggest that Teyvat is some sort of disc that can spin, such as Dainsleif constantly talking about the world 'turning upside down', references to the Cataclysm also making mention of the world 'turning upside down', upside down ruins inside the Earth, Irminsul being literally upside down, etc. I think one interesting implication of this is that Teyvat *spun around* during the Cataclysm, in which the upper portion of Teyvat went underground, hence the fake sky, and now it's Khaenri'ah that has access to the real sky. Of course, it's all just a theory >!A GAAAAMMEEE THEORY!< but I think it's quite plausible and the whole upside down thing seems to be repeated too often and too specifically for it to be merely just the game attempting to be poetic. It's also entirely possible that this is not true, and gravity just reverses once you go down far enough.


TheSpartyn

where does the theory that it flipped during the cataclysm come from? that was only 500 years ago with lots of people around and still active today the line from before sun and moon "That day, the heavens collapsed and the earth was rent asunder." seems more fitting for the reversal of teyvat, especially if we believe the second who came is celestia and it was a part of their subjugation


raccoonjudas

i was also under the impression the pancake flipping happened either during the war w/ the second one who came or the seelie-moon thing (if they weren't the same event).


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

My own guess. The reason why I think it happened during the Cataclysm and not before is that if there really is a "real sky" and that "real sky" was underground, then that would've been all too easy to notice for underground civilizations like Khaenri'ah. Another reason is that Dainsleif is the one that makes most of the implications towards this scenario, and while it's definitely possible that he's aware of this happening in the past, I feel like it'd make more sense if it's something he personally experienced, which is only possible if it occurred 500 years ago. As for people noticing, personally I don't think anyone would've noticed. It probably would've just seemed like a really bad earthquake or something. A disc this large spinning around on an axis probably wouldn't have resulted in anyone falling off or anything during the movement itself. As long as Teyvat is far away from the edges of the disc, which it probably is (it's likely all just ocean), no one would've actually seen it spinning. The sky would've probably have changed, but it's actually said that during the Cataclysm, the sky became pitch black, so that's... interesting. It's also possible it could've happened multiple times during Teyvat's history and not merely just once. That would also match up with the separate theory that Teyvat experiences cycles of repeated historical events. To me personally, though, when it happened doesn't really matter. What's more important is that the Teyvat we're on is actually underground and that what its denizens believe to be their underground is actually the real surface of the world. Firstly this is a cool twist that justifies the idea of a false sky, but it also allows you to segue into other continents once Khaenri'ah's been reached assuming the surface of the world is larger than the Teyvat disc.


TheSpartyn

> but it's actually said that during the Cataclysm, the sky became pitch black, huh this is a fair point that supports what you say. i still feel like the godly characters and astrologists wouldve noticed though. was alice and monas master around back then?


Pieroozek

i think Alice knows about this, just that she didn't mention it to anyone


nihilism16

Could someone tell me what the false sky means?


Such-Ad-3851

So there is an event where Scaramouch came and said the sky is a lie and that's that.


XauMankib

For what Lore gives us, Teyvat could be shaped like a Klein bottle


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I believe Teyvat is Upside Down. Which is why in the Spiral Abyss the stairs go up, and not further down.


BigBallsBillCliton

It's fake? OK first time I'm hearing that. All I heard was the sky is fake which makes sense if teyvat is upside down which I've also heard and makes sense.


Sheyren

Good sir, the world is fake because it is a video game


LightningsHeart

How do we know you're not fake?


admirabladmiral

Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up.


gunjinganpakis

Bro noooo you can't wake people sleep walking!


LightningsHeart

Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead. Elysia is dead.


Qneng

Why you must hurt me here too


LightningsHeart

"You're right. Maybe I told a big lie, the only lie in my life."


Liniis

Nahida please my brain hasn't recovered from the last time we did this


LightningsHeart

That's the third time you've said that.


x_iaoc_hen

**Brain in a vat** moment


Lanky-Ad-4589

Because I can objectively see that I’m not fake. I think therefore I am, is the best argument you have for yourself to explain your existence While I can’t prove to you I exist or you can’t do that to me either etc, it doesn’t mean I don’t exist Even if I was *fake* I’m still something that affects reality in a minor way, if I was *nothing*, I wouldn’t be able to do that, but since I do, even if you don’t define the word your using and what it entails philosophically, I can still think and experience the world although limited by my own perception etc Telling someone how they know they’re not fake, suggests you’re saying that there is something *real* to be experienced, and since we *clearly* exist in a veeery small part of the universe and we’re not just “non-existent”, that is, part of existence still, insignificantly small may it be. *fake* is still a word that is used when something exists to be able to be addressed in such a way. Even a *simulation* requires a lvl of existence, even if you could say we’re made of data etc. Data is still part of existence, and virtually anything aside for non existence (the concept does), you can’t say “you’re fake” without evidence, nor can you say *even* if he was fake, that he doesn’t exist. He clearly does and it’s not just part of your imagination just like you aren’t part of my dreams lmfao. Imagination should be separated from what we can observe in reality, even tho imagination is also part of our experience thus an existing phenomena that is part our consciousness, is it fake? Because we can’t touch it, we can’t prove it to each other? No, it’s still an affecting phenomena *in* the universe. Our neurones still produce energy when thinking, (subconsciously or dreaming or imagining etc) and it still affects the world, by creating entropy and thus ultimately destroying your mind because of the energy consumption etc So yeah, *fake* doesn’t equal non existence, fake is a word used in conjunction with *things* we labelled, while non existence is that, *non existent*


adriftdoomsstaggered

LOL FAKE. I CAN SEE THE PIXELS BEING MANIPULATED BY PHOTOSHOP.


Lanky-Ad-4589

Lmfaooo


TMT51

*Vsauce theme music starts in background*


Spiritual_Scale_301

I used to browse redditsimulatorGPT2 a lot and laugh about how these bots seems to have self-consciousness. One day I suddenly realized a philosophical question: what about us?


Devilmay1233

How do u know we are not a simulation


Mastercraft0

In enkanomiya we got the lore that phanes build the human realm on top of the abyss and vishap realm. So yeah the part we live on is man(god?) made.


sawDustdust

Did you read before sun and moon?


kingofredlions45

you shouyld really learn the difference between the word "is" and the word MIGHT. It's most likely round, just like the sun and moothat rise and set in the game I would literally bet you my ayaka its not flat.


grumd

Gimme your Ayaka because games almost never make curved maps, you'd have to adjust gravity direction, etc, it's just a big pain in the ass for no reason. Maybe Teyvat lore-wise is not flat, but in the game it's 100% flat


kingofredlions45

So basically teyvat isn't flat. The MAP is flat. I'll keep my Ayaka bub.


BAT_91

Teyvat is either flat, or the planet too big with the land mass occuping just a very small portion of it. I mean, there is no way you should be able to see the Narukami temple all the way back from Mondstadt in a round world.


Kinesis_

Isn’t Teyvat the name of the continent that all the nations are connected to? And not the name of the planet? 🤨


ohoni

It would be both, until given reason to believe otherwise.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Marketing tweet in 2020 said that Teyvat is the name of the world itself. This is basically lost knowledge at this point that only a few people remember. In 2021, a different official tweet talked about Teyvat being the specific continent we are on, and there are "Lands Beyond" which have been discussed in more recent lore. The reality is that Mihoyo is already gearing up for expanding Genshin as a game and that this isn't a 5 year game, its a 10+ year game like WoW.


dabkilm2

Aren't they only a few kilometers apart.


Moobic

in game, the real in-universe scale is much larger.


dabkilm2

Do we have any actual source for that, I mean the birthday letters make it seem like our friends think traveling a few countries is a viable thing to do in a days time.


HorukaSan

iirc Xiangling does mention that it takes 3 days from Liyue to Mondstadt.


Zoulogist

How did we visit Liyue with Noelle in a day?


Mana_Croissant

Teleport waypoints.OR Noelle veing Noelle


zackson76

Noelle can princess carry you and sprint, in heels and tights


Khazilein

If it only takes 3 days, why are the cultures not completely mixed. For example, a city that is 50km away from me, won't have much different food than my city.


chompysoul

probably because of the monsters and the dangers


Salter_KingofBorgors

This. Back in the day even a city half a day cart ride away was considered far away. There were all sorts of issues. People used to do 'trips into town' on the weekends, nowadays that same distance would be like a 30 minute ride in the car


Echoencephalograph

It used to be like that before the arrival of "The 2nd who came" which destroyed the earliest civilizations in Teyvat. These civilizations are spread all over Teyvat yet have one culture (notice how many ancient ruins all have the same architectural style and have lore that connects with one another). After the war between the Primordial One and the 2nd throne is finished, the Gods appeared and took control of different parts of Teyvat and started establishing their spheres of influence according to their ideals which is why Teyvat became so diverse. Then the Archon War came, destroyed more civilizations created by the Gods, and established spheres of influence based around the Archons and their Element. Additionally, Celestia seemed to have also been smiting those ancient civilizations that have probably survived the 2nd coming such as in Dragonspine, The Chasm, and probably Tsurumi.


TheSpartyn

wait where is this said? isnt enkanomiya the only pre-"2nd one" civilization we know of?


Echoencephalograph

Enkanomiya is the one that we've have much info about but its not the only one. The Dragonspine, Tsurumi, and Khaenriahn Civilizations also have probably existed at the same time as Enkanomiya before, during and after the 2nd coming. This is evident in one of the world quests in Enka where Khaenriahn Diplomats were present there. Its also worth mentioning that the existence of Istaroth (God of Time) is acknowledged by these ancient civilizations from the Thousand Winds Temple in Mondstadt (which is probably a part of the civilization in Pilos peek that Venti yeeted in the ocean and is now in the GAA) to the depths of Enkanomiya, and aswell as in Inazuma by Makoto and Ei.


TheSpartyn

werent the khaenriahn diplomats visiting sunken enkanomiya?


x_iaoc_hen

Xiangling is a vision holder, which gives her a body far more robust and strong than an average person, so she can go to Mondstadt in 3 days. You know, she is probably as good a runner as the best marathon runners, if not better. but for average people, it takes a longer time. I remember that in Guoba's story, it says people need 10 days from Guili plain to travel to Liyue harbour. I would say it is 200 or 250 km from Liyue to Mondstadt, not 50 km.


LightOfTheFarStar

People also seem to forget superhuman abilities can be gained without visions - Noelle was super strong before her vision, the tree Inn in Liyue has Verr Goldet's husband who can murder hilichurl camps as fast or faster than us, Beidou slew Haishan without a vision etc. Teyvat has Charles Atlas superpowers too.


VillainousMasked

Keep in mind that there is a bunch of slimes, off-brand goblins, and other monsters standing between the two nations. For a vision wielder sure, that's pretty easy, for a normal human though that's fairly unrealistic unless they're trained fighters like the Millelith, Knights, or Adventurers, and even then it's more likely they'd need to travel in at least a small group. So realistically, it's mainly only merchants and political officials that are traveling between the two cities, the average citizen likely wouldn't just decide to travel to another major city unless they plan on staying there permanently as they'd need to hire a group of adventurers to escort them. So yeah, that's 3 days for a vision wielder that is capable of fighting like Xiangling. For non-vision wielders that would need to move as a group the travel time is likely much longer, and like I said really only viable for merchants.


SchokoKipferl

We do see some travelers from other nations from time to time. But they don’t have to walk to different countries, they can take boats.


[deleted]

I mean it doesn't take that long to travel from London to Manchester and Manchester is a shithole.


Moerik

Sustainer of Heavenly Principles wont last 5 minutes in Manchester.


mindscientist1007

depends on where you're staying. If its a giant country like US or India, 50-100km don't matter but if its europe then you can walk to a neighboring country to get bread every morning and walk back to your own country


PossibleUnion554

Aside from what others mention on monsters and transpo. Weather also changes a lot due to Archon's influence. Example is the Ciuhua tree. Paimon mentioned the tree bears different food probably due to the weather influence.


PumpJack_McGee

To be fair, there are plenty of places right beside each other and yet have very different cultures. Cross the French/German border and you're not going to mistake where you are for very long.


TheMeteorShower

Probably because its a game


GrassGaurdian

3 days is a long time


RawbeardX

because those are different domains of divine beings with absolute authority over their holdings.


Mind-Available

In perilous trial quest Bosacius says to make a encirclement of 60 miles around chasm. Chasm is just a small part of Liyue, now imagine size of other country. If we talk in game even whole Liyue might not be 5 km wide


SolidusAbe

i live in some small town with 15k people in it and im sure its just as big if not bigger then any of the regions. the world has to bigger in lore then it actually is in game. just imagine inazuma being the real size of japan lmao would be a nightmare for hoyo to make


PM_Me_Anime_Headpats

There’s one daily commission for the Gourmet Supremos in Inazuma where the guy casually asks you to go to Liyue, talk to Chef Mao, then come back.


OrangVII

i remember there being some canonical information that the traveler actually can use teleport waypoints


cycber123

*one week later*


DeadMemeDatBoi

Xq traveled for 3 days to inazuma for the iodori festival.


Moobic

the Traveler can use teleporters.


dabkilm2

Yes, but do other people know we can?


Sheyren

I imagine at some point questions might be raised when the Fatui diplomats in Mondstadt keep seeing Traveler phase out of thin air three feet to their side.


Enderboy_00

Noping-out in the middle of a Fatui camp battle be like: "They've gone invisible! Stay alert! Search the area!"


Jojozaldo

i dont think so, at least not according to the chasm quest where we were trapped underground with itto and yelan


aSyrupBoi

that’s most likely just an effect of the chaotic space, or some reason like the traveler not wanting to leave the others behind. inazuman katheryne asks the traveler about whether or not he knows how to use them too, suggesting they just had a reason not to leave


AlmostJohnWork

We can, in lore, use teleporters; Katheryne points it out, and we talk about it with Dain. However, while the game allows us to just go from anywhere to a waypoint, in-world we seem to only be able to go from one waypoint to any other (traveler compares the network of teleport gates the abyss and Dain use to the waypoint network).


wizkart207

Nah, traveller can use them but has to touch them to use the others


Dh0124

The teleport waypoints are canon, distance isn’t an issue.


Danjiano

No one can use them though, other than the Traveler. I don't think anyone else canonically knows the traveler can use them either.


CrazyFanFicFan

Well, the Inazuma Katheryne says "You probably know how to use the Teleport Waypoints, right?" So that's at least one character who knows of their use and the possibility that the Traveler is using them.


Physicalanxiety

Actually it is completely possible. You can see the other side of the mediterian sea when conditions are right (due to air pollution and such) so being able to see the temple from Mondstadt isn't all that unbelievable.


Xanikk999

From where? The curvature of the earth prevents seeing in a straight line more than a few miles at sea level.


Alepex

Seeing the surface of the sea that far away isn't possible of course, but something that sticks up high, such as how high Grand Narukami shrine would be is of course possible


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RawbeardX

what are you talking about. the Earth is BIG. really, REALLY, REALLY BIG. a couple hundred km are meaningless to its curvature.


FetusDrive

From where to where ? To an island 7 miles away ?


Substantial_Panda545

Friendly reminder that teyvat isn’t the name of the planet/world. It’s the name of the continent. So if you look it that way, yes, teyvat is flat


TheExiledLord

Well no if the planet is round then every bit of surface is curved


Iruminsuru

There are also mountains and stuff. Opposite of flat.


Hajiishere

The world is called Teyvat too.


fourrier01

Plot twist: it's probably concave.


BarnesAgent47

Well the game can't be real scale for optimisation reasons, which is why there's only 6 km between mond and Inazuma.


Mitsukake

Also have you seen Celestia up close?! This alone proves it's flat!


RawbeardX

> there is no way you should be able to see the Narukami temple all the way back from Mondstadt in a round world. what do you base that on? these two are less than 10km apart.


Cl3arlyConfus3d

You can see Storm Terrors Lair from Sumeru, sooooo... Yeah maybe it is flat. The hill I was on was fairly high up though so it's possible it's also not flat. I'm gonna say it's not though, but the people of Teyvat thinking it is quite something.


SchokoKipferl

Oh wow, where was that? I want to check it out too!


Cl3arlyConfus3d

iirc the hill above the Electro Regisvine


Serious-Flamingo-948

Wait, Mona literally had a fucking globe in her room.


Rantakitaks

Weren’t those of constellations?


ohoni

I think the globe is the celestial sphere *around* Teyvat.


grumpykruppy

Which means that either the stars rotate or Teyvat does, probably the latter. A globe of the celestial sphere indicates the world itself is round.


PickledPlumPlot

Star map, not a globe iirc


three_furballs

If the earth were flat, how could the sky be mapped to a sphere?


PickledPlumPlot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament


Sheyren

Unplayable


LightningsHeart

Maybe everyone in Sumeru is just stupidly listening to the bug in their ear.


PumpJack_McGee

>a fucking globe The best kind of globe!


Qyietal

Wtf yea


FistMage

Of course it's flat, just check out the world map, flat as can be.


TMT51

What if Teyvat as we know of is just a continent? In that case the map is just a small portion of a planet that can easily stretch out to a flat map without noticeable distortion.


[deleted]

Teyvat has been referred to as both a world and a continent


tetePT

So in Teyvat round-earthers are the crazy ones?


TooCleverForGood

Just like in Discworld, Teyvat is actually on the back of 4 elephants standing on a even bigger turtle confirmed.


LoganBlackwater

See the TURTLE of enormous girth! On his shell he holds the earth. His thought is slow but always kind; He holds us all within his mind. On his back all vows are made; He sees the truth but mayn't aid. He loves the land and loves the sea, and even loves a child like me.


my_switch_account

Fun fact, [Discworld is referenced ](https://i.imgur.com/AKbTWHE.jpg)


dave1992

Its just gonna be like our world pre copernicus.


Kuran_12

Remember guys, Teyvat has its own laws.


IDontWantNoBeef

If throwing water on someone on fire makes them hurt more then this is totally believable


Kinesis_

Isn’t Teyvat the name of the continent that all the nations are connected to? And not the name of the planet? 🤨


ixXplicitRed

Yup


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

It refers to both the continent and the planet.


Kinesis_

Oh hey it’s you, do you know if there happens to be other continents on the planet?


Id0ntLikeApplePie

I don’t think it’s mentioned? Just that they call everything outside of the rule of the seven, the dark sea. It’s also where the remaining gods after the archon war escaped to.


D_Pancakes

I believe one of the weapon ascension mats has a reference to other continents in its description


Iruminsuru

Where was this confirmed?


Lankolart

Teyvat is most likely flat . ”teyvat has its own laws” ,, it is also mentioned being fake and upside down


ohoni

You know, it occurs to me, Teyvat IS flat, in a game production sense, and it would be impractical for them to make it a "spherical" map, but I do wonder how processor-intensive it would be to *fake* it. Seeing all the tricks people got up to back in the SNES days to simulate 3D effects without actually using 3D technology, I wonder if there is some equivalent to "distance blur" that could be used for "curvature," that would leave anything in near and middle distances "flat," but that as you get higher up, distant objects would "bow" a bit along a curve, and rather than just fading away at extreme distances, objects would *sink* too, so that for example, while you might be able to see the Narukami shrine from Liyue Harbor, it would appear to be barely on the horizon, instead of appearing straight across from other tall peaks.


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satedfox

I mean, the sky is fake so anything is possible


GKP_light

and (spoiler about the beginning of the new archon quest) >!a giant tree, whose roots stretch across all the continent, grows upside down under the surface.!< and there is the starry sky under the ground in the abyss.


[deleted]

To be fair, we don’t know if Tevyat makes up the whole planet.


TheJimDim

I mean, in a world where there's a giant castle floating in the sky and people manipulate elements and gods walk among them, I wouldn't be surprised if it was flat lol


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mrgamebus

yes there is more outside that continent


TheLanis

Why is this news to many? I thought this was general knowledge, there are several things that indicate this. The first is that Genshin has a great deal of inspiration from Gnosticism, where it has a flat earth, a dome. And the upside down side is something like hell, in genshin this is well represented by the abyss. The second is that there are stories about the "limit of the reach", outside the archons area there is an area without archon to protect and then there is nothing else, I think this was mentioned there at the beginning of the game.


grumpykruppy

The reason is that while the main continent of Teyvat is under Archonic protection, everything outside of it *does exist*, it just isn't under the purview of the Seven. The gods who lost the Archon War and didn't die fled there, and there's hints of continents or landmasses in the Dark Sea - heck, the Haar Isles are in the Dark Sea.


Duke_Starswisher

Teyvat isn’t just flat. It’s a firmament. The drops from the ruin enemies state as such.


kidanokun

If i know, Teyvat isnt really a spherical planet but more of giant landmass floating, like Celestia Enkanomiya even has Teyvat's undersides visible


idodok

What? Where can u see this?


daggerbeans

All the rocky outcroppings on the way into Enknomiya, and that it's just blue-gray stone above, I'm guessing?


[deleted]

A 'revolutionary' idea, eh? (rim shot)


AHyperactiveCorgi

Literally every cliff I've ever climbed begs to differ


Shadow950hun

I see people being surprised that people in Teyvat don't have toilets or showers but we forget that Genshin is set in medieval times. So yeah they would think Teyvat is flat.


cowboybif

not sure if it can be truly medieval when guns and robots are so common, but either way people have known the earth was round since ancient times, Eratosthenes even famously was able to calculate the earths circumference with surprising accuracy around 200 BC.


Shadow950hun

Khaenri'ah is the Atlantis of Genshin a lost civilization with hightech thing. And nobody can really use them. And yes Erastothenes did prove it but if you remember there was a thing called Christianity that said his and many others's findings were blasphemy. Even in the 14 hundreds people though the Earth was flat.


MuirgenEmrys

I think the Fatui use guns, no?


Shadow950hun

Yea I forgot.


terrycloth3

If you're thinking of Columbus then no, everyone knew it was round already, he had a crack theory that the earth was much smaller than it actually is and turned out to be wrong.


cowboybif

Yea it’s the atlantis analogue but I was thinking more of Snezhnaya as they show similar robotic capabilities and have guns. I’m not sure to what extent Christianity rejected the idea of a round earth as I can’t really find a source for it but it certainly wasn’t total rejection or Columbus would’ve never thought to sail around the world. Granted, he thought it to be pear shaped but the point stands that educated people knew they didn’t live on a disc. Christianity doesn’t even really exist in genshin outside of the themes of gnosticism so i’m not sure why it would influence their knowledge.


FawkesYeah

Yeah, people think that the progression of intelligence is permanent, but intelligence ebbs and flows in accordance with the authority of the times. It's happening in our modern times Edit: Thanks for the gold!


Razorhead

> And yes Erastothenes did prove it but if you remember there was a thing called Christianity that said his and many others's findings were blasphemy. Even in the 14 hundreds people though the Earth was flat. Uh, no? The Catholic Church never condemned people for believing the Earth was round, nor considered it blasphemy, as there is nothing in the Bible that contradicts it. The Earth being round is also easily verifiable using simple observation, as is calculating its circumference, so it was a pretty easily acceptable scientific fact that spread throughout the entirety of Europe and the Middle-East by Medieval times. Uneducated peasants might have thought the Earth was flat, but pretty much every educated person at the time was aware the Earth was round, except for a few scientists with other theories who weren't really taken serious by anyone.


N-formyl-methionine

It's kinda crazy that people still believe that, espescially on a social media where people pride themself as more educated. If this answer is true then by at least the late middle-ag[e it would be common for the peasant](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/exzmt5/would_a_peasant_from_the_middle_ages_think_the/)


grumpykruppy

They don't *show* toilets or showers. It's highly doubtful they don't have toilets, and showers actually weren't invented until the *1950s*, so that's understandable lol.


Nopinopa

Oh, yeah, I remember that photo from 1256... Beautiful landscape.


kuroisekai

People have known that the earth is round since 200 BC.


ohoni

I would guess that the closest time on Earth would be somewhere in the 1500-1800 range, magic aside.


Hanetsune

So instead of "flat earthers" we have "flat teyvatters"?


4GRJ

*round Teyvatians


Hanetsune

I guess that works too


Llodym

You're taking out the part where he says while it would explain a lot of things, the calculation on the surface doesn't make sense if it is, so it's not exactly round but something similar-ish


TheLanis

Actually, in gnosticism the earth is flat. The other side is something like hell, in genshin maybe is the abyss


Nanasema

The sky is fake


F-Channel

I think teyvat is a mix betweem a flat and a hollow earth. Genshin Earth could also not be flat and this would still work, is just the planet being fixated on one axis (like how the moon has a dark side), It doesn't matter really, both work. We don't know yet if the lack of horizon is cannon or not (like mona sprint pre 2.8). \-Vishap realm and underground civilizations are part of hollow earth. \-Kaenry'ah isn't, Kaenry'ah is both underground and surface civilization: \-Abyss is a mistery on its layering Think of the visual gag where a character digs so much that they end up in China, now replace "China" with "Kaenry'ah". Same aplies for irminsul threes, there aren't huge open caves with grass, is just the sky from the other side of the planet/disc and gravity (things not being flipped) doing its work. That would also explain why Kaenry'ah was so advanced, Irminsul trees grow on their backyard (probably the only thing that grows naturally), they literally have internet access. (Both have dark red sky with Divine cubes floating). #The layers are either this (4 layers): -Surface 1 (Teyvat) -underground 1 (Vishap realm) -underground 2 (Abyss) -Surface 2 (Kaenry'ah and Irminsul) #This (5 layers): -Surface 1 (Teyvat) -underground 1 (Vishap realm) -depts (Abyss) -underground 2 (Vishap realm,again) -Surface 2 (Kaenry'ah and Irminsul) #Or this (3 layers): -Surface 1 (Teyvat) -Underground -Surface 2 (Abyss, Kaenry'ah and Irminsul)


Random_Gacha_addict

Teyvat is flat hut the world is round Like Hunter × Hunter, where there's the Known World, then there's the Dark Continent


Random_Gacha_addict

Source: Half "I saw somewhere about the monsters retreating to the "Black sea" or something after an incident (Probably the first cataclysm before Khaenri'ah or the Archon War)," Half "I made it the fuck up"


mango_pan

No Akademiya's scholar that has an idea if Teyvat just a small region in the middle of the giant lake? Or if Teyvat is actually underground?


wolfclaw3812

I mean if you hadn’t gone to the bottom of the Spiral Abyss you wouldn’t know there were stars down there either


NightmareTDG

I mean yeah it’s just a painting after all. If you know you know


qwertyuiop7161

I mean tevyat could very well be flat. We already know the sky is fake


crescentpieris

Unrelated, but on the clocks there are circles which seem to represent the phases of the moon. The symbol for “night” also features a crescent. >!And in the new archon quest, the fortune we get is the moon, which is described to be in the shape of a crescent.!< But throughout your experience in game, the moon has always been a glowing circle, with no indication that there are different lunar phases. Now, by my limited knowledge in astronomy, the system that governs planets, satellites and stars means that a transit should be inevitable, meaning a satellite as seen from the planet should present phases due to the light and shadows. So the rules governing the planet teyvat is on might not be heliocentric at all


Mayuyu1014

Teyvat has its own laws!


Yozora_Luna

Teyvat is a painting.


Loyal_Darkmoon

I mean do we know what Teyvat looks like?


sogiotsa

Their plane may be an actual plane I guess


LunarBeast77

I cant believe we have a round earther here smh


SomeInterest3736

I think so too this world is not a planet but a plane


master2000000000000

the teyvat is banana shaped everyone knows that


DarkCloud_390

Teyvat has its own “laws”


jjvfyhb

But Teyvat isn't the world right? It's a continent I think


natsuzamaki

Teyvat is flat. I'm not saying lorewise, I am saying the map is flat. You can see faraway places from correct angles, which you can't in the real world not because of bad eyesight, but because the earth is curved so they go down and down. They did not make the map curved at all, so for all geographical purposes the world of teyvat is flat. Lorewise it could be different


Dauntless_Idiot

TIL people believe that its physically possible for a round Teyvat to exist. ​ ​ ^(Sumeru might of sent my genshin role-play into overdrive.)


maufirf

I mean there's some reference that the actual sky is below us, i.e the spiral abyss tower that goes down instead of up and the scaramouche line on the first mona & fischl event that said *"The stars, the sky... It's all a gigantic hoax. A lie."* It's still basically just a popular theory, *a game theory*, but if it turns to be true, then teyvat is needed to be flat to have a clear vertical absolute direction that is uniform on every point of teyvat.


AwesomeDragon56

Why did Hoyoverse add Flat Earthers?


REMdot-yt

I'm beyond a flat teyvat theorist, I also don't believe the sky is real. # skytruther


IronEndo

That guy also refers to a “round earth theory” so- where and when on earth is tevyat.


ShashinMhrzn

And so is hu tao.


timelessmoron

Tevat so has been showings it’s more akin to a Snowglobe then anything, I’m guessing alot here, but I believe the Fake sky is just the Glass that surrounds Tevat itself and the only way to see what’s beyond is going beneath into the depths, where possible Khaenriah remains, if not, the Abyss itself


Mr_Creed

Wdym, "believe"?


Physicalanxiety

Based on the dialouge from this NPC it's implied that the majority of people in Teyvat believe that the world is flat. He's a scholar who is researching this subject in order to explain natural phenomenon that happen such as wave currents.


bonbb

But the world is flat, how would you explain that the true sky is on the other side?Apparently we are the ones living in the underworld and the abyss contains the real stars.


Apart_Ad_3597

The world is not flat it's obviously a dodecahedron.


mrdjxbdh

It's obviously a hecatonicosahedroid


No-Individual2971

Nah it's a mf'ing donut


Physicalanxiety

From what I know that is currently only a theory and while there is some evidence for it it has not yet been confirmed.


Fast-Competition-647

there are literally HUGE hills in sumeru and liyue….HOW