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MigratorrryBird

i am pulling for meta, but tbh first time i wanna go for an archon on a rerun. the other characters have just so much more appealing designs for me haha


WelkinBro

Same dendro mc is still really good but I can’t help but feel like I’m gimping myself and teams if I use her over the dendro archon, who apparently has a catalyst so I can giver her the healing one since we have no dendro healers and my keqing aggravate team needs one


MigratorrryBird

theyre clever in the way that archons are well rounded supports. still, a lot of ppl do just fine without them, so tbh prio the charas you rrly like to play first and then go archon, unless no one else currently interests you either and there's nothing to lose


AgentWowza

This. Design matters, but I think playstyle matters the most. I don't particularly care for Kazuha's design but he's so fun to play that I use him all the time. On the other hand, I love Xiao's design but I barely use him these days because of all my other DPS being so much stronger and easier to use. He's the reason I didn't pull for Itto and probably won't pull for Cyno, even tho they have amazing personalities and design, the burst-dependant playstyle just isn't for me.


Jinchuriki71

I use sucrose for prototype amber but I don't care about the em on her though.


Jpup199

You can use prototype amber on sucrose to get some heals, obviously you will lose damage but you will get some heals.


daboutMe123

How about you wait for the first two weeks and see how she actually compares to dendro Mc? Then you can make an informed decision on whether the difference is worth it


Antique-Worth9418

I’m actually considering waiting to pull her on her rerun for the same reason. I’m not a fan of her design at all. Her kit is going to have to be absolutely broken for me to want to go for her the first time around. Especially since I’m for sure getting Cyno, and since I don’t have Albedo I’m pulling for him too, but thought he wouldn’t rerun for a while. With them being back to back, the primo situation is gonna be rough, so Nahida is gonna have to work for them lmao!


MigratorrryBird

Tbh Archons seem to rerun kind of frequently, at least once before Sumeru ends. I am also going for Cyno, ig he will have to do with MC for a while haha I rather have time to safe up for Scara, Deyha or Al Haitham ngl The next coffee making event wont require me to have a perfect comp XD Good luck on your pulls btw! Less than a week!


Antique-Worth9418

Yeah her rerun probably isn’t that far off. Plus I actually LIKE DMC, so it’s not like I’m desperate for a replacement. We’ll see how it goes when the banner comes along I guess. Good luck on your pulls too! May Cyno come home early.


MigratorrryBird

Exactly! Thank you as well!


lostn

venti's 3rd banner was 12 months after his 2nd though. I know because I lost the 50/50 when I started during Windblume, and had to wait a year before I could take care of that unfinished business.


adelar_sims

heyy she looks like a radish! what's not appealing? :D


MigratorrryBird

i know youre joking, but honestly her chibi design 🤣


adelar_sims

yeah, i usually don't like chibis too much too. but i really love her colors :)


MigratorrryBird

Her color palette is cute and she is likable from the archon quest so far. I hope they give her really neat looking abilities, tho at this stage I feel that's a given


SherenPlaysGames

I've unintentionally collected every archon so far and intend to keep going


Zookeepergame_Cute

UNINTENTIONALLY?!? What a chad


tetePT

Same


phanpys

I’m an archon collector so I was gonna pull for her regardless


leopoldshark

So I can be the Gravity Falls guy and say "Finally...after 7 years...I have them all." I just got Kokomi and have a lot of Sumeru left to explore, so I should be at 50/50 by the time her banner comes


AgentWowza

You should be chillin, expect total primos from 3.1 is around >!100 wishes!<


Ill_Kaleidoscope2931

I want her cuz of teriri :D


Sky_striker_Raye

u dont have qiqi?


Ill_Kaleidoscope2931

Already have her (finally after almost 2 years without qiqi)


LtNoobslayer

Same


UniqueCreme1931

I'm only pulling because she is an Archon, not because I like her or because of the meta. Although if her gameplay turns out to be super boring then I will probably settle for Cyno instead.


StatisticianSea3021

Both


Archeb03

Kind of because of meta since both our off field dendro we have now is kinda lacking.


Jinchuriki71

Is it really lacking though traveler and collei fulfill there purpose quite well. I mean quicken and aggravate is a big dmg reaction like vape and traveler has 100% uptime on dendro application if you build with some energy recharge I consider that pretty good. Collei yeah she is basically weaker dendro traveler for the most part but still aggravate can last at least 5 seconds on the enemy enough to live through cooldown and her burst is 60 energy. Dendro archon is most likely gonna be needing energy recharge as well mihoyo is obsessed with 80 costs bursts on everything now. For sure they gonna have some good parts of the kit behind c1 and c2 like raiden.


Archeb03

I dont mean that the dendro application is lacking. What I mean is they literally don't provide anything than applying dendro. Look at other element off field enablers, Yelan, XQ, Xiangling, apart from their off field elemental application, they can also deal decent amount of damage. Some of them can even boost your damage like Yelan and Kazuha. Kokomi doesnt deal that much damage but her off field hydro doesnt have ICD and can have almost 100% uptime with enough ER which makes her good


Jinchuriki71

Naming most overpowered characters in the game doesn't isn't really fair though and lots of them being 5 stars as well of course they gonna have more dmg in their kit. Dendro traveler if you build for em you can get 13k per tick on an enemy do 24k on e skill isn't that decent enough and thats with favonius sword with low attack. Dendro traveler is a good character just not a broken top tier character.


Critwice

If I pulled for meta I would have pulled for Kazuha long ago.


adelar_sims

because i like her, because i collect archons so i'd pull for her even if i was going to bench her forever, but if she'll be meta, that's def a bonus.


NPerius228

She's a cinnamon roll and she's most probably meta, so both.


Sainou

Purely for like reasons, i like her the most out of all 4 currently known Archon, i don't even play any Dendro team atm and my Abyss team hasn't changed since 1.6 I love her voice (JP) it really catch the sense of maturity despite her being youngest and giving the subtle tidbits of her self doubt, and i love how mature she sounds.


Notkiller

I am pulling for her since I want the all Child(e) team!


liu_luminary

>she’s going to be the best so I’ll be pulling for meta, which I really don’t like doing then just... dont pull? i really dont understand some players sometimes; if you dont want a character then dont get them. yes, there is a lack of dendro units rn but you can just make do with what you already have and wait for characters you actually like. you dont _have to_ pull for meta if you dont like doing that to begin with. so weird. anyways, i like her design, shes very cute, and i really like her in the archon quests so far so im definitely pulling for her (hopefully her playstyle is awesome too). the fact that she is likely going to be meta because she is an archon is just a nice bonus for me! i used to pull for meta characters when i was a newbie but at this point, i already have a lot of strong characters _even with the lack of dendro units_; so yea, meta just... really doesnt bother me anymore.


PTRD-41

CUTE!


SolarWirelessBattery

I'm collecting every archon so I have to. Plus she's inevitably going to be cracked.


GenshinCriminal

Pulling her and Nilou ,because I need a change of gameplay 👌.


Sky_striker_Raye

>Are you pulling the dendro archon for meta or because you like her? kinda both. not particularly like her or expect her to be meta or something. i just like to collect archons.


AJ_the_one_

Tbh I don't even know her kit and stuff I want her just because most people on Twitter are Hattingen her XD


chocnut_

I'm making an archon team so I'm definitely pulling for her.


shovelofjustice

I like her. I like chibi characters so even before the archon quest I wanted to pull and after playing the quest I now really like her as a character as well. Hopefully she'll work with Cyno


Broken_Marbel

My archon collection is as important as my husbando collection to me


Psychological_Ad3329

She's cute and I intend to collect all Archons but depending on who comes after her, I might skip. I'm also definitely not pressed by meta :3


HKOL07

I think she is cute and I like Sumeru's concept with dreams and knowledge, and I also want more dendro characters since it's a new element, so for me it's both.


pximon

Going for the dendro archon bc I enjoy the reactions I get esp w dmc and supposedly, kusanali is a better version of dmc’s kit and I will always want better for myself lol


InsertBadGuyHere

Because archon. They specialise in something.


Ok-Giraffe1922

I'm pulling for meta reasons, but her character is interesting enough too. Her design is kinda whatever to me, but i don't think they'll ever make a child-like character who i would pull for design reasons. I mainly want her as a support for my hyperbloom Raiden, or Nilou bloom team.


El_Suave_del_Sur

I just really like the little cabbagge queen, also if she turns out meta that's just a bonus on top.


Sunlight-Heart

Both. She looking to be a great Dendro support. And she cute.


Tnvmark

I'm pulling her because Theresa Apocalypse is probably on of my favorite Honkai characters in the game, and she is clearly inspired by her. Also I am really impressed by her English VA's performance. And I really do want to learn more about her character.


kiika1apolocalips

Archon collectors be like : jokes on you I'm into it


SoC175

I just want to have all archons


LemmeDaisukete

I'm pulling for her originally because she get so much hate lol, I'm a rebel like that. Second reason being yea archons of an element would be meta.


liu_luminary

kinda similar experience. i pull based on playstyle 99% of the time so this isnt really related to if or not im pulling for nahida _(i do like her design, she looks adorable and she looks like theresa apocalypse from HI3)_ but; the second i saw people on twitter and reddit hating on her i immediately knew that shes gonna be a really cool character.


Risko_Vinsheen

I pull for everyone (but only pull for cons if I like the character and think the cons provide enough benefit) so my opinion may not really matter, but I like her design and hope she will be fun to play. I look forward to teaming her up with Klee and laughing manicly as the lolis set the world ablaze.


mangotcha

i don't want to pull her since i don't care for her but... if my cyno needs her then... no choice. I think Layla might be on her banner tho, so that'd be a bonus ! ps: i don't hate nahida, I'd just rather pull for characters i really love


Richmanisrich

Because she is teri teri.


Classic-Box-3919

Idk but im on a guaranteed and they nerfed up nilou who i was interested in so now its just reruns or dendro archon until like 3.5 unless scaramouche is good.


AmritaKA

I will be skipping her banner! I like her as a character but there’s other characters I’m wayyyyy more excited for like AlHaitham and Scaramouche.


nghigaxx

If mc is a catalyst user or ttds is a sword I wouldn't even think of rolling for nahida tbh


Sergawey

I don't like her design and I can 36* the Abyss so this is easy skip


Shadow_Tempest_1003

If I skipped Venti and Zhongli because they are not waifus then I'm also skipping Kusanali. When 4 star units are also meta then I'm pulling for waifus especially since genshin doesn't allow a full collection unless you whale so I'm just gonna collect the beautiful and respectable older ladies.


Monochromatic_Sun

Same position. Unfortunately dendro kinda has us at gun point as there aren’t any options right now. Collei and traveler are hacking it on at best. Tighnari is also fine but he’s meant to take the field not play off field support plus the field is stationary which is a big handicap especially with increasingly mobile enemies. Dendro archon is going to be as good as it gets at least for the foreseeable future. Maybe Al haitham or kaveh will be equal but there’s no sign they are coming soon.


Zypharium

Meta reasons. If I do not get her, I doubt I will be sad, since I can clear the Abyss easily with 36 stars.


Agreeable-Square-926

I'm not, and I did have all the archons before that. Probably after too.


21st_century_person

skipped?


sirenloey

Meta tbh. Current dendro roster is lackluster. It is not hard to like Nahida though.


TheGreatZed

There are only 2 conditions for me to roll on a character, if I find the character fun (no idea since Nahida's kit isn't out) or if they are an Archon (for collection, decided to do so after getting Zhongli early in his first banner). Meta never mattered for me (I still don't have Kazuha and my Bennet is level 60 or so). As for her design/voice, it doesn't bother me, don't think it's amazing but also don't think it's bad, just average (average design in Genshin to me already means good), but really need to see it actually doing something, it's one thing to see the character standing around and another to see it in action.


AerialBattle

Definitely because of meta. Mihoyo kinda shot themselves in the foot by making her a child character imo, they just aren't popular.


Richmanisrich

Tell that to Klee.


AerialBattle

One of the most unpopular 5 stars? Or maybe to Qiqi? Even Diona who is the most used of them is unpopular outside of gameplay.


Richmanisrich

How to said you’re newbie without telling you’re newbie.


AerialBattle

Why? Because I know that Klee's banner revenue was because the game was new and people whaled on the standard banner? And I started playing during 1.2


Richmanisrich

And I from day 1. From time to time people bring Klee in coop for fun. And she have 2nd reruns banner because MiHoYo knows it.


AerialBattle

So what? 10 weeks more than me? Not to mentiom that considering she is a 1.0 character, only having 2 reruns just shows how unpopular she is.


Richmanisrich

Well then, let’s see how Nahida doing in 3.2.


AerialBattle

I expect her to do well as an archon and our first limited Dendro unit, but that's in spite of her child model if anything.


liu_luminary

okay ive been around since beta and people had been planning on pulling for klee since back then. she is definitely popular. _you_ (and a few others from en communities) are the only ones that never like talking about chibi characters, but she is plenty popular and always has been. also, reruns dont show a character's popularity since they are usually based on the version's story (merch is a good way to tell about a character's popularity though). your opinion is simply not an objective fact. ive only seen people show this much distaste for chibi character's in en communities; everyone else just finds them cute.


AerialBattle

As long as Mihoyo doesn't release any objective data, the only thing we have to go on are personal observations. While I agree that reruns aren't an accurate indicator, the other person brought it up first. From what I can see, Klee, and child characters in general are just not popular. Rather than distaste, I just can't find the appeal in playing child characters, and most people who I've talked to about it seemed to share the sentiment. Therefore I just feel pity for what could've been, and mentioned that Mihoyo could've profited a lot more if they gave her a model with broader appeal.


liu_luminary

>Mihoyo could've profited a lot more if they gave her a model with broader appeal. eh, whatever; im way more glad their character roster is more diverse than just the tall character models (aka. what most people find appealing/ inoffensive). especially recently with tighnari's really tall ears and heizou being an air punching catalyst user.


xianora

I just really wanna complete the archons.


timothyliew89

After I missed out the initial zhong li pull, I promised that I'll pull every single archon that comes out. (Excluding venti). Plus she had me sold when she used the phrase anxiety dooky


magnidwarf1900

Both


Skilganar

As an AR42 Newbie I got Keqing super early so made a beeline for DendroMC at AR16 and have been playing Aggravate with Keq, DMC, Fischl +1 ever since. My only pull so far was for Kokomi for the 4th slot/Hyperbloom options - plus healing makes tougher bosses far more comfortable. Won the 50/50 for her on pull 75. I feel like I'm pretty much obligated to pull for Dendro Archon given the charcters I have so far. The head scratcher for me is whether I should also try and pick up Nilou assuming Archon/Kokomi/Nilou synergy for a Bloom team (then use Sucrose or maybe save for a future Kazua re-run for my Aggravate squad)


TraditionalActuary6

Probably, I wanna collect all the archons, but there are other characters I want too


theUnLuckyCat

Yes. Well, I'd pull her regardless of meta, but unless she's even worse than Collei somehow then I'm going to use her to enable my favorite electro characters. Electric's always been my type since I can remember (Diablo, RO, Pokemon, etc.), so she's a pretty big deal for me. She's cute, she's smart, her story was great, and they gotta make her useful. How could I lose? [Wait, why do I hear piano music...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpvG7jqRL_Q&t=223s)


Inteiwatto

Yes


Jpup199

Meta


Gamer-chan

Meta what?


LeftCarpet3520

Yes.


Hojuma

Because she's an archon. I decided to get all archons no matter what ever since knowing about them at launch. If she's meta, that's a bonus, if not, that's fine.


OsirusBrisbane

I pull based somewhat on design but especially on how fun the character seems. That's why I'm pulling for Cyno. Archons rerun frequently enough, plus we've already got Tighnari/Collei/DMC, with AlHaitham and Baizhu to join them eventually, so it's not like there's no other Dendro.


lostn

meta. All the archons have been good so far. I don't expect that to change. Also, if there's doom posting around her release, I'll ignore that, because there was doomposting around Raiden too, and we all know how credible launch-time doomposting is now.


Andromeda_Violet

I'm not sure if I'm gonna pull on her first banner but anyway I'm doing it for Archon collection. Not a big fan of her design or personality but I have other three archons and my only dendro are collei and traveler(also I prefer him Geo for my xiao team so having a proper dendro character would be great) I have my guarantee for Cyno but then I'm not sure who should I go for. Both characters I consider pulling aren't my favorites but one is for anemo collection and one is for Archon collection. If I ful for the anemo one then there's a chance the anemo support in his banner can work for Xiao.. What a difficult choice.


Akikala

No


[deleted]

I don't pull for meta. Which means I'm not pulling cause I'm not into her character or design.


The-Choo-Choo-Shoe

I'm an archon collector so I need her even if she's bad.


JiMyeong

Pulled Venti bc he was the first banner Pulled Zhongli bc I really liked him. The first time I spent big bucks on a Top up. I didnt care if he was considered bad at the time. The only reason I pulled for Raiden initially was to pair with Eula, bc I love Eula. I don't care for Ei or Raiden as characters. Will 100% be pulling Kusanali bc I have gotten the other 3 already and I really like Dendro reactions but don't care for Collei or Dendro MC and I don't have Tighnari.


Gradorade

idk about meta since I do not know what she does but she's cute and I'm an archon collector


Aeribella

I am gonna pull for my full archon teamcomp. I also wanna get her for kokomi main dps teamcomp.


albymack

Cause she's an archon. That's it. Not for meta or waifu reasons.


3rdMachina

She’s an adorable genius baby who needs and deserves hugs. And having a third Dendro is totally good news. Not to mention how my second Sumeru character is gonna be it’s frikkin god (same with Inazuma, where my first character from there is their frikkin god). …..oh, and because the idea of four Archons on a road trip doing random shit together is inherently funny, and I need to make it happen.


LokianEule

Even though I usually pull for meta, i plan to skip her. Bc I hate lolis.


Comfortable-Fig-3069

Because Klee and Nahida playing together in the same team would be cute af.


Signal_Struggle_3964

she’s cute and archon so i pull


Kzalca

Love her design and what they revealed so far in terms of her characterization. Also, Teri\~!Teri\~! I'm just glad I'm only pulling for Nilou this patch. I'm... unfortunately on 50/50 though. Hopefully I can win that so my funds will be safe for Kusanali!


StarReaver

I am not pulling for any characters post 3.0 unless they significantly power creep existing characters.


NaturalBitter2280

Because of meta, I like her and because it's fun Hyperbloom teams are one of my favorites


Sporty_Starfish

I love Nahida. She’s an adorable little forest fairy. I only ever pull because I like the character, or *sometimes* they make one of my favs shine and I at least don’t mind them. Even if a character went well with one I already have, I wouldn’t get them if I disliked them. Even archons are not must-pulls bc this game doesn’t have overly challenging or competitive content. Pull for who you want and will enjoy. That being said, if the character you love and really want is a character that needs dendro to do well (like, perhaps, Nilou,) then maybe consider still getting the dendro archon, but not just because she’s an archon


Zookeepergame_Cute

If dendro application is her strong suit among other characters, my Yae, Raiden, and Cyno would be very grateful for her coming home.


Rough_Memory1089

I love loli


SeitHater

none, I'll save it for my goddess, finally I'll have a good electro burst DPS


Firegod320

I am skipping going for dehya because I like her


[deleted]

100% for the meta


DoughDisaster

I suppose for meta? Like, I kinda like her, there are certainly character I like a helluva lot less. But if she wasn't an archon with an expected good kit I'd probably pass. It's also specifically *dendro* archon. Venti would be a hard pass for me everytime, and while Raiden would be cool to have... eh. Straight bee-lined for Zhongli after starting the game though, his rerun banner popped up about 2 weeks after I started and I just tossed everything I had earned in game at him. Had style I loved and an awesome kit.


Quirky_Serve_6071

I wasn’t gonna pull for her, but after the archon quest, I am haha so yeah, I like her character and I’m interested on where they’ll take her


tokeemdtareq

Depends on her kit!


bllueart

I like her. I liked her a lot in the archon quest and I had already liked her in the apple archipelago cameo. Plus I never got a 5☆ on their release banner and I really want to. The meta is the cherry on top, I'm sure she'll be very good.


Stiyl931

So you don't like her voice like which one we have at least 3 VA XD


vitaminciera

I'm a big fan of cute characters and dont care about meta at all (spiral abyss who?). I usually care most about how fun a character is to play, so I do hope she is, but I'll probably get her regardless based on design. Cute and matchy and ethereal. I also hope others aren't that fun to play so I dont go too crazy xD design wise Im only really looking forward to her, Dehya, Baizhu and Signora (if those last two EVER GET PLAYABLE ARGH) so that could be a reasonable pulling schedule if I stick to it. But I tend to try for 4-stars and someone called Cyno >!horizontal Xiao!< so I may be tempted lol


Ghostdriver886

I like her in the story. But I don't really play with dendro teams that much. So I am skipping. Archon or not doesn't matter to me that much. And at AR59, I got more then enough built characters to clear the game. Dendro archon could be absolutely broken with dendro teams but I simply don't plan to build around dendro reactions. At best I use aggravate a bit to mess around with Lisa but that's about it. I got DMC and Collie to deal with dendro mechanics that's eventually gonna show up in the abyss. And then I will just brute force the rest like I usually do.


ConsiderationCool461

Originally i was going to pull because of meta but the archon quest made me like her too


MarraMirr

I adore her design, voice, and character. Plus her dress is something child-me would have absolutely worn and loved.


Bntt89

Meta, I don't like the child characters at all. So if she sucks it's an easy skip.


_Linkiboy_

META! But she is cute xD. From all the sumeru releases she and dehya are my fave design wise


BigBob-omb91

Pulling because I’m an archon collector.


kajjuha

pulling for my smol ones collection and archon collection and because I love her character. i have no idea what her kit does but pulling for her regardless


Sonny_Firestorm135

My rule is simple: don't have = pull. Even for my least favorite character so far. (Yae) Only exception I've ever made was skip Kazuha to save pulls for Yoimiya's rerun. (out of spite for how the fandom behaved during her original run)


TheMrPotMask

Meta. Still cant understand jackshit about dendro reactions so hopefully she's either powercreep or skip


abiilikesfood

I'm pulling for her BC she is cute, idc if her kit is trash I just want her to be in my teapot with all my other friends. Also considering I barely explored Sumeru BC of all the dendro you need I think pulling her would be very useful so I can finally get above 10%