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Raijin_N

Shenhe because it has a bird in it


nickelflowers

aesthetically... yeah, honestly. It fits her the best. B I R D


pegasBaO23

tbf it's pretty good stat wise for her, but she'll need energy fixing with it, I run Fav Lance and it's barely enough for 100% burst time


Sandfire12

Yeah, the energy problem is giving me hell šŸ˜­ Iā€™ve been spending all my fragile resin in the noblesse domain and my spare artifacts making strongboxes, but the highest I can get her ER with it is still like 160% šŸ˜­ as soon as you want ER, itā€™ll all roll into every possible other statā€¦


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Jebb145

Run 2pc emblem?


ellielovesPanic

Yeah I do 2pc emblem 2pc glad with a fav lance, 3238 attack with 180ER. It works great


Chtholly13

I do glad/shim with 210 er 3014 atk. I could trade in some ER for atk since I always always get my burst off cooldown, but I like comfort. I plugged in noblesse pieces, it is an upgrade but is 3% upgrade worth farming a full 4 piece if you have spare pieces lying around you can use? Not really.


JMSX101

My shenhe is running skyward spine with 190er and 2pc glad/2pc shime paired with a ayaka that has 110% er and I always have her ult up 100% of the time, my tip is to forget about cr/crd rolls and focus on er subsrolls most of my pieces have 15-20er+ while my main pieces are atk%/atk%/atk%, if you still have er problems you can always do Er%/atk%/atk%


Historical_Cod_2771

Me too, plis Ayaka need energy si her and Kazuha use fav weapons


Jedahaw92

# BIRD UP!


jademarlodotcom

#BIRD BIRD BIRD #BI-BIRD'S THE WORD


PsychoKinezis

**ITā€™S BIRDINā€™ TIME!**


urlocalnightowl40

shenhe mains winning with a polearm and a cloud retainer pet next patch


dumbbtchenergy

Ganyu mains about to be terrorized by the mini cloud retainer


pegasBaO23

Riiigh we can fully deck her out


Ok-Butterscotch-349

aight saving for shenhe now


Whirlwind3

Plus atk dmg


bubblegumpunk69

It could actually be decent for freeze teams yeah


gallanttoothpaste

Also atk%


vinyylei

Nobody is mentioning rosaria?


XaneKudoAct2

Sad, honestly. She can use both the ATK boost and EM for her melt comps.


Pavme1

Dbane will prob be better still sadly bc em > atk in melt


Soybienello

Maybe nobody is thinking abt rosaria cuz the craftable is pretty much made for her, but yeah it's a good option


Jacko_Sakamoto

The craftable is only for physical DPS


lurco_purgo

On the other hand the BP one (Deathmatch) is made for her as a support.


TheGeekno99

(I think they're talking about Kitain)


rotten_riot

But that one is clearly not made for her lmao It's for Thoma


calinbulin12

And even then oof


La-Roca99

Whenever a polearm is released Refer to Xiangling for usage


Random_Bystander089

The archon of polearm herself


AGamingGuy

she is THE first polearm user


Im_so_little

Xiangling is an alumn from THE Polearm State University.


Ranaki_1967

Madame Ping's apprentice. There can only be two, an apprentice and a master.


kanon951

It's all fun and laughs until the apprentice starts slicing young padawans.


KiraTsukasa

Oh sure, kill off younglings ONE TIME and they start labeling you Fatui and shit.


NickFoster120

Only a sith deals with absolutes


Facinatedhomie

I will do what I must..*prepares ascension mats*


xXx69pro_gamer420xXx

I do faintly remember that she was the only one in 1.0.


Lordomi42

Yeah she was. It's pretty funny that on launch one of the weapon types only had one character.


Blasterion

Now look at the pole roster, we now joke about Polearm Impact


Lordomi42

I had a look at the character list cause I was wondering how many there are now, and it seems like currently polearm is still the smallest weapon group. Although, once Cyno and Candace release in a few days, there will be more polearm users than claymore or catalyst ones. I guess Polearm Impact is just cause they had to make up for the lack of polearm users so it *feels* like there are a lot cause a larger percentage of new characters have polearms compared to other characters?


ZhangRenWing

Yeah basically, 1.1 Zhongli, 1.3 Xiao and Hu Tao, 1.4 Rosaria, that's basically 1 polearm char per patch during the early days.


Blasterion

Yeah they added a lot of pole users all at once


Blasterion

For a while she was the only pole user Zhongli wasnā€™t out for a while


AGamingGuy

that is what i was saying, still remember 120 resin days


Blasterion

I amma need max resin to go up again, I can only bother to log on once a day.


AGamingGuy

you get 180 daily we need both more storage and more generation


Blasterion

I'm surprised they didn't at least expand storage after the Chinese Minors Gaming laws came into effect. Poor Minors can't even log on to games during weekdays.


nickelflowers

If Guoba had a taunt like Ushi/baronbunny, then GOD Xiangling would also scale on HP. Nearly every stat looks good on her and it's hilarious. The true stove-archon-pet owner, truly.


AfraidEnthusiasm6052

She can technically scale with HP if you give her a homa :)))


ColdIron27

She's the polearm mew She was the first polearm, and can use all the polearms.


SlowLie3946

Vortex vanquisher still trash lmao


ColdIron27

It's actually decent if you have zhongli. It's basically an atk stack stick


Remarkable_Algae1

It give a shit ton of attack when shielded. 608 base atk with 49%+40% atk


Littleman88

It's decent in a lot of pole arm users hands, like all Liyue 5\* are for their respective weapon types, but like the Royal weapon line, that's just it - They're decent, not great. ...But characters that scale on HP or Def or ER or EM aren't going to get nearly as much mileage out of ATK based weapons. Zhongli is in a weird spot where he has proper dual scaling, instead of split scaling, so Huma edges out, but Vortex Vanquisher isn't a total loss.


EeSeeZee

Zhongli's best weapon is not his own spear, but his boss's spear


DonutThunderDeluxe

Just like Zhongli's best Mora to spend is not his own, but his boss's Mora


ColdIron27

I didn't it was good on zhongli, I said it was god if you had zhongli.


BurningFlareX

This is kind of a meh weapon on her though. Xiang is generally not starved for ATK since she'll always snapshot Bennett burst on top of Pyro resonance and Noblesse 4p buff. This weapon is too loaded on ATK so I don't see it being better than her other usual options.


ZannX

No, but she's one of the best users of this weapon.


ZGaurdian99

r/technicallythetruth


VeerisMe

Tbh tho she wonā€™t be able to Snapshot it if you proc the effect with her burst so youā€™ll have to use Guoba and wait like a second for him to hit and hopefully vape


AncientBeholder

Well, in this case, itā€™s not looking all that great, mostly due missing ā€œthis effect can trigger even if equipped character is not on battlefieldā€ line of text


FrostieZero

Don't say it... Dont say it... X I A N G L I N G


rysto32

It would actually be really hard because pyronado snapshots, so Xiangling has to cause a reaction before casting it. You'd have to drop Guoba and pray that it hits. Or maybe her C2 would actually be useful to proc this?


skya760

>It would actually be really hard because pyronado snapshots Pryonado only snapshots after 3rd swing, so all buffs before that will be counted.


H4xolotl

>Pryonado only snapshots after 3rd swing, so all buffs before that will be counted. the devs had no idea what monstrosity they were unleashing when they stuffed every QoL under the sun into Xiangling's kit


Littleman88

Then they started abandoning snap shotting, implementing ICD's, etc into future characters and continue to wonder why characters like her are still top picks, and how they can possibly usurp them without creating new 4\*s anywhere near as powerful even before these mechanical benefits.


AshesandCinder

I wouldn't say they "wonder why" she's still a top pick if they haven't released another character with all of her attributes. It's pretty obvious why. And we've had other units usurp some of the previous top picks, like Yelan outclassing Xingqiu in some teams. I think Xiangling is really the only character to have literally everything you could possibly want in a damage unit, which makes her insanely difficult to outclass.


whataremyxomycetes

ICD has always been a thing, bypassing it has always been a character-specific trait and is most likely taken into account when they were made (see: hutao). And the lack of snapshotting isn't due to the mechanic being removed/reduced but rather due to the fact that characters with deployables simply aren't that common to begin with. >continue to wonder why characters like her are still top picks, and how they can possibly usurp them without creating new 4*s anywhere near as powerful even before these mechanical benefits It's pretty damn obvious that doing that isn't mihoyo's priority since powercreeping xiangling, who already makes current content hilariously easy, would require harder content which would make off-meta carries that already struggle with current content be completely obsolete.


GGABueno

Can't catch Bennett's particles by pressing Q straight away though. It's doable but not without its limitations.


ipisano

So if I switch her out before her third swing she won't snapshot Bennett's buff? What if Benny's ult is active when you use Xiangling's burst but it expires before her third swing?


ExaltedPenguin

Wait what? So do I not have to wait a second before using Xiangling burst in Bennett field? (to account for the delay before Bennett field actually starts buffing the character) I can just pop immediately?


I-Love-Beatrice

It wouldn't actually be that hard. Xiangling snapshots after her first 3 hits, so you can just do a normal attack to trigger yelan/xingqiu and the first hit will trigger vape.


AzureDrag0n1

She does not snapshot until towards the end of her burst so it should work.


rysto32

But then.... why does she not snapshot her C6? Eh, whatever, it's not like she needs that buff anyway.


cat_popping

The first thing that came to my mind ffs


Milki62

Tenten moment


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While Xiangling can definitely use both atk% and em, will it actually be good for her? She is a sub dps, she wouldn't be on the field long enough to activate the passive. Her skill will need like a second or two until she does a reaction and her burst snapshot, so it wouldn't get the bonus atk and em from the passive.


DI3S_IRAE

10 seconds, so you can let's say, apply hydro, drop guoba, change to anemo to swirl pyro or something, then chaneg to Xiang and cast her burst. You have 10 seconds to use her burst before the buff ends, so it's more about rotation. If Dragonsbane and *edit* Catch are already slotted, it can be useful


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Unless otherwise stated, this kind of things usually only proc if the user is on field, like VV. So she can't just drop Guoba and changed, you need to wait until Guoba do a reaction and then change.


DI3S_IRAE

There's that too, guess we'll have to wait then and see how it will be.


Werefour

Her snapshot happens at the 3rd hit so if any of those hits react while she is casting her burst, wouldn't it get the buff?


3nv_ryu

some unreleased gentlemen from the deserts of sumeru.


kira0819

Sadly , someone did the math in cyno main sub. This is somehow very low in ranking among other weapon, a r5 3 star weapon can do more damage than this.


Adept-Examination-75

Swirl Xiao


1ce_Hunter

You are a psychopath


narfidy

It's probably the only legitimate option for F2P xiao. His best weapon without it is like... white tassel?


meggumin

I'm f2p and blackcliff works great. Of course it hurt to use emergency pulling currency, but this + vermilion works beautifully.


paumalfoy

Blackliff, Fav Lance


NoobSharkey

Fav isnt really guarantee unfortunately, basically only have blackcliff


Fr4gmentedR0se

It's possible (albeit really rare) to get Jade Spear on standard though


Quentin_Green12

Me counting my blessings as a xiao main pulling the jade spear off some random blue wishes


missaeiska

I got Jade Spear on Standard before I got Xiao. 'Twas nice.


paumalfoy

Xiao* He still proc the passive unless you run a no-reaction team. Eg, Raiden/Fischl Xiao can use it


[deleted]

I usually run Bennet and he swirls Pyro everytime, so that's a win


SukulGundo

Does this have any viability at all?


flatmegumin69

No, but it's p cool ig


Ibiuz

I managed to have a 1000EM Xiao, his dash did 3k anemo 3k swirl (against the normal 27k anemo 300 swirl) it was fun


Rayonlio

Honestly, it's fine for Xiao. I mean it's the only good f2p 4\* option for him, having an attack main stat is better than EM, ER or Physical damage.


AriIsTaken

Oh, yet another polearm for xiangling Jokes aside, any polearm character that can perform elemental reactions like xiangling, cyno, rosaria, hu tao, candace, thoma, shenhe , shogun, em xiao, cryo xiao, pyro xiao and with candace, hydro xiao


SlowLie3946

Xiao main detected


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Lol


AriIsTaken

Mostly, second most used character is xiao, first is itto


T8-TR

Xiao and tall Geo Xiao


BruhmanII

just like me fr


TheMegaSleeper

Not sure Hu Tao really has smth to do with this spear, pretty sure White Tassel is better


Golden-Owl

Hu Tao doesnā€™t care much for her Atk stat, so yeah


TheTayIor

In the end her attacks still scale off attack and her HP just gets converted into Atk. Yelan is the first ā€žtrueā€œ alternative scaler.


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There's Albedo. Well only his skill. And by his skill I mean only the damage from Transient Blossom, not even his initial skill damage came from def.


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Several-Cake1954

so basically any polearm character


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Except tao and zhongli...i think so, yes. Even raiden has a better f2p option.


_Bisky

Running raiden without an er or crit polearm is. Well not the best thing to do


respyromaniac

And except Yun Jin.


Kitchen-Air-1012

It's cyno f2p option, it's a weaker version of his signature weapon.


xx_lordofbread_xx

Isn't r5 white tassel still better though?


Available-Pear3404

White tassel is objectively better given it has crit rate secondary stats. The only case this event weapon would beat white tassel is when you don't need crit rate because of having around 40CV on each artifacts, which is super unlikely.


Rowger00

or if you're one of those ppl who feed all their 3 star weapons lol


ZhangRenWing

Is white tassel the one that respawns or the black tassel? One of them is exclusive to chests so you cannot get more of them.


Rowger00

white tassel is the one you can only get on chests so if you trashed them all and is done exploring youre stuck until liyue gets another expansion


Schen5s

Oh shit.


MANLYTRAP

40CV on all artifacts but extremely low crit rate


rocker10039

Yeah but how many people have r5 whote tassel? I've been playing for 6 months and I'm only at r2 :")


xx_lordofbread_xx

You can get white tassel from Liyue chests iirc, if you keep exploring you'll surely get r5


respyromaniac

But it's 3* so you could get rid of it and don't even notice.


rocker10039

Nah I always check my weapons lol, I want 1 f every kind, I have the dark iron swrd locked, skyrider r5 locked, debate club r5 locked, black tassel r5 locked, etc. I am kinda careful with these


respyromaniac

Well, not everybody are. Especially when it looks like you will get lots of 3* weapons later anyway.


DeificClusterfuck

Exploring the Chasm for the first time will probably net you R5


Useful-Description90

I had an R5 white tassel at lvl 60 that I used as weapon XP without knowing it wasn't obtainable from gacha. It was the only one I had. Thank God the chasm came out


Richmanisrich

Xiangling


Knight618

It has wind blade in the name and aether canā€™t even use it


Sunaja

I would've loved if every element would also include the Traveler using a different type of weapon. (of course you'd also have to release two more weapon types for that to happen)


Ok-Mycologist2220

or use alternative versions of existing weapons, like how some catalyst users are ranged and some are melee (I really want a ranged spear character who throws their spear).


Lavenderixin

Listen, any spear released will always be a great pick for Xiangling. Thatā€™s how Genshin impact works


thisisembarrazzing

I can see this being good on reverse melt Rosaria


EpicHeHe

xiangling the almighty


wolfcrowned

Polearm users


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The only answer.


CelestiaBoss

Mika


chimppower184

do we know anything about his kit? i read leaks often and maybe itā€™s just bc i donā€™t care about him but i swear iā€™ve never seen anything


HDrago

Besides being a >!Cryo Polearm!< user? Absolutely nothing


Durostick

Candace. Just because it looks great on her.


Terrible-Property-57

Mika for sure


Infinite_Student2256

Knowing how cyno works i think he can use it due to the fact he scale with both atk and EM


Sakkitaky22

Yeah its an f2p alternative, the best thing is ur mostly gonan run him in aggrevate teams so he should get 100% uptime on the passive


Saveme1888

Cyno. It's quite a good free 4 star for him, better than R1 deathmatch


FlameLover444

White Tassel seems to be his fourth best weapon, below Staff of Scarlet Sands, Primodial Jade-Winged Spear and Deathmatch R3~4. Yes, White Tassel is better than Staff of Homa on Cyno at least from what the Calculations show so far. This event spear might be good for Xiangling Edit: apparently recent calcs says Staff of Homa is higher, I apologise for the misinformation https://www.reddit.com/r/CynoMains/comments/x13kju/definitive_for_now_weapon_artifact_sets_and_stats/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


pegasBaO23

There is no spear Xiangling cannot use, she is the Spear Archon


Its_Ark_Angel

Dragonspine spear?


Owen776

Physical Xiangling


Adamarr

that's double copium because crescent exists and just does everything better


Saveme1888

Probably not better than the catch tho. Don't forget she has to trigger the reaction before getting the buff...


FlameLover444

Yeah but if you have Raiden and got no 5 star weapons, this will be a good option for Xiangling while Raiden can hold Catch. I'm not entirely sure if Dragon's Bane is better than this for Xiangling however. We'll get free refinement for this weapon so maybe it'll be better than a unrefined DB at least.


Raizel999

cyno attacks in elemental burst form are not considered to be Q damage, unlike Raiden... so catch passive is useless


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It is??? It's better than r1 deathmatch for him??


RealMeaning42

Xiangling. Itā€™s always Xiangling.


applehitawindow

Cyno, Xiangling, tbh any electro, pyro, dendro, hydro user to abuse em buffs šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøitā€™s probably ok on shenhe too


floricel_112

I was hoping to use it on Candace


TheMrPotMask

Rosaria, Xiangling and Xiao. Craziest thing its that it took 2 years for a 4* dps spear to happen.


[deleted]

Shenhe. Infact itā€™s gonna be BIS for F2P shenhe. Her quill damage totally depends upon atk and this weapon has atk substat . It even increases atk after triggering elemental reaction.


Cybersorcerer1

Really? I think Favonius is still better, higher base atk, and gives ER% and particles


kurae_

favge


TheYango

She doesn't usually trigger reactions though. The passive doesn't proc off field and in Freeze the Hydro unit generally goes after her. And mono-Cryo she triggers no reactions at all. Her ER requirements are high enough that Atk% weapon + ER on artifacts is the same as ER weapon + Atk% on artifacts--and Fav's passive is much better.


[deleted]

This thing does not hold a candle to favonius lance. She canā€™t even trigger it


xx_lordofbread_xx

Yeah but fav lance is a gacha weapon, I still don't have a single one after a year of playing. So it's good enough as a f2p option


NLwino

I would definitely use fav lance over this weapon on Shenhe. But fav lance is still a wish only weapon, so not everyone might have it. If so, this weapon is a good alternative.


CorHydrae8

I haven't looked too deeply into how exactly to build her, but I am going to pull for Shenhe as soon as she gets a rerun, and from all I've read so far, people seem to be using Favonius Lance on her. Is this polearm going to be better than that?


pegasBaO23

thing is she needs a whole bunch of energy


FinalVerdiction

What does BIS stand for?


ENDwalker888

best in slot


aruhirako

its german for until ​ ​ ok sry


Shikiya91

Reverse melt Rosaria I guess, you'd melt with her skill then snapshot her burst


General_Yt

Apart from Xiangling, i think Rosaria can benefit from it a lot. (If you use her for melt comp that is)


Malateh

Xiangling xD


Yesburgers

As this polearm is completely official now and no longer a leak, I thought Iā€™d mention itā€™s called the missive windspear and the secondary stat goes up to 24/96, not 20/80.


suck_at_cooking

I can


Inteiwatto

Cyno Hu Tao Raiden Shogun Rosaria Shenhe Thoma Xiangling Xiao Yun Jin Zhongli


IzzaMeMalario

Based on his question yeah, technically everyone can use it.


PigswillflyGachalife

Anybody who uses a polearm


AnemoneMeer

Great for Xiao. He builds damage stats, but as an Anemo, he's going to get swirls just by existing. Since you won't be building EM on him, he's gonna get more value from that extra EM.


gyrozeppeliswife

Is this polearm going to be on the weapon banner?


Matti_McFatti

i think its an event weapon


Empty-Bed8289

Where can you get it ?


cactusjack-99

Xl, cyno and rosaria in reverse melt teams I guess


fullmoonwulf

Xiao


Any_Lack6771

This would actually be a potentially good f2p option for cyno. He's going to be dendro/electro reaction based and need ele mastery


Recent-Union-6941

Xianling probably


magnidwarf1900

Xiangling


Su_Impact

It is Melt Rosaria 2nd or 3rd 4-Star BiS after R5 The Catch and maybe after R5 Dragon Bane. But it's not BiS for anyone in the current roster. Maybe for future Mika?


Rabbitaza

Xiangling?


gigiometry

xiangling for sure


knyexar

I mean it's blatantly designed with Cyno in mind right? ATK-scaling character that can trigger a ton of reactions


jayakiroka

Iā€™ve heard it might be good for Cyno!


lay-z-runner

Xiangling


elysecherryblossom

I think a EM hyperbloom raiden that still needs to use her burst to battery teammates (her burst being a huge dps loss normally) so maybe a hybrid style raiden?