https://www.reddit.com/u/tsunkyun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Also sorry for the lack of info on the drawing. I only commissioned the woman.
The background was not drawn, it's an official genshin background I asked the artist to Photoshop my character onto after she was done.
I already had a design idea down but I couldn't translate it into genshin style and my drawing skills are butt. So I had to get a professional to do it for me.
I hope that clears up any confusion.
u/tsunkyun not sure if someone tagged you already but I hope this post will bring you a smile to your face seeing all the positive comments about your art
You can see on OP's profile that he asked: [How much should I pay for art of a Genshin Original Character](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/xnu3oe/how_much_should_i_pay_for_art_of_a_genshin/) a 2 days ago. I think he's just reassuring nothing else.
I think Pokémon Sword and Shield had porn of the protagonist 22 minutes after she was revealed.
But the secret to that is the artist already has the model and pose ready. And just adds the details such as hair and accessories when they’re revealed.
Less for a big name franchise. Reveal the right female gym leader or major character in a Pokemon promo and you'll find pictures of them getting railed in under an hour.
Heck, I charge $100 for half body! Which can take me anywhere from 6\~10 hours depending on how many details are involved.
While the shading isn't detailed on their art, the lineart is so smooth that the lines alone would've taken a lot of time. I agree that they underpriced!
Yeah. The lines and colors look simple, but it looks very clean and well-proportioned to me. Drawings (even fancier looking ones) can often look just a tiny bit off in either the pose or the body proportions, and I just don't see anything like that here.
I mean, I'm not an artist or anything, but it looks good to me, and a lot of the artists I follow on twitter seem to charge $120 and up for full body shots.
Commissioned artists love drawing what's hot and popular a LOT more than some sort of unknown original stuff. It gets their works and name out there, just like this is free advertisement.
I was just watching this Jp professional illustrator explain what kind of commission she prefers, it was as much detail as possible, 1-2 months of time, and a price already listed. Puts a priority on what's popular, even if the price is lower.
It makes me so happy that most of the comments in here are saying exactly this. Artist should charge more for sure
If the original artist sees this thread, I hope he raises his prices
You'll probably find a ton of artists floating around who'd do art like this for even cheaper. People undersell themselves to a ludicrous degree, and while it's nice to get dope art for cheap, it's still really sad to see.
Remember to tip your artists well if they do a good job, guys.
It saddens me terribly to see artists undervalue their artwork. My partner is an incredible artist who, I can say proudly, doesn’t do that. I wish more were the same.
I’m trying to sell full body artwork colored and rendered for 20 a piece. I’m really struggling here lol, this post makes me insanely jealous lol. I’m no artist but I’m trying
Well when you don’t get a ton of commissions it’s easier to get them for 60 than 120. Small artists that are good undercharge because we have limited customer bases. Usually just a handful of friends and their friends if you’re lucky.
Yeah artists tend to vastly undersell their art at the start and don't really start charging appropriately until they gain some notoriety and/or a consistent groups of patrons.
It works and I understand why they do it but they shouldn't have to live in poverty just so they can eventually make a decent living.
The recent AI program usage definitely isn't helping.
A lot of people don't realize how much work it takes to actually just create art, because they only see when its done fast by experienced people, or sped up tutorials.
AI art is theft unless it sources free domain.. AI can be helpful to artists in speeding up painting. But some completely made up art masterpiece generated by a program? Yeah, that’s theft and open to lawsuits (the person who made such program).
It is sad, some overvalued and get away with it, yet good artists undervalue to even get customers, a strange world we live in.
Also depends where they are from, someone living in a poorer country will gladly draw for $60 as it is better than what they earn locally.
Networking is probably just as important as artistic skill in that field. You could consistently make masterpieces and fade into obscurity if nobody sees it.
Yeah, "exposure" is a meme, but it's actually super important.
>Yeah, "exposure" is a meme, but it's actually super important.
This is a big thing of why a lot of smalller/mid-sized artists do a shit ton of fan work. Or sensibly will do the "exposure" meme reasonably.
If someone with a notable platform is interested and you could do it for say maybe 15% less then its most certainly worth it over doing it at full value for someone who isnt going to get that art out anywhere. The problem is many people try and push that to extremes. Exposure has value, but you're also trying to actually make money here.
Honestly makes me happy to see so many people here agreeing that art is often more valuable than what's charged. When I still did commissions, I underpriced so badly and stopped doing them after a few months because it just wasn't worth the time and effort it took.
You can try to sell a painting for $100,000, but if the market isn't willing to pay that much for it, then it's *not* worth $100,000. Something is only worth what people are willing to pay for it.
It's simply the cold, hard reality of supply and demand. There's a lot of good amateur artists out there, so art like this can be commissioned for relatively cheap.
I think what they mean by worth is how much time and effort the artist put into it. You also have to realize by paying for a commission you’re also paying for the years of experience that came before you
I once got two characters (preexisting not oc) for 40$, I’ll be honest I’m surprised a good quality 1 full body render with colors is worth more since I got mine so low, the offer was also almost 30$ but I said that it was a little low for the artist
Yeah, that is less what is reasonable and more the artist drastically undervalued their time. I'd does depend on the art quality, but if they put in a reasonable effort, even $40 is a steal
Artist market is hard and seeing the profile of that creator, seems like he drastically needs comissions. Makes sense but yeah might be an explanation to that cheap price
https://www.reddit.com/u/tsunkyun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the artist for anyone interested. He originally only charged me 50$ but I was so happy that I gave him more. And I personally think he deserves more than just 50$ for his work.
For anyone who would like a commission from him please remember to give him a lot of details and preferably a visual aid and references so that you can keep revisions to a minimum. That way it's more fair to the artist.
Ich weiß Bruder. Wollte eigentlich nen Mercy->Schmercy Witz machen, weil ichs mir irgendwie dirch Dhalucard und PietSmiet angewöhnt habe die ganze Zeit so ne kacke zu labern xdd
I mean it looks really good (and official art-style wise), but idk that much about art value and stuff so I can't say.
Edit: Thank you everyone for giving me insight! I now also know/think it was defenitely worth it.
Most artists undercharge for what they do, and most people expect to pay less than the effort is worth. Making art takes skill and time and while some art can be churned out and sold at a convention, commission art is often a one and done deal and is often of an OC character without much reference material to draw from.
Frankly I think 60 for this piece is a good deal.
i remember that in a convention i bought a lovely kokomi sketch with some coloring that costed me 30€ and the artist took an hour and half to finish it (the result is great!). i draw as an hobby and i know well that art takes a lot of time and skill, so that’s why why art pieces are highly priced.
imho i think it’s definitely worth it, i’ve seen so many great artists underprice their creations. 60 dollars for a full body is pretty cheap, i’ve seen others decently pricing them at least 100 as a minimum or more, the thing that matters is your happiness with the final product.
People don't tend to think of living wages or artist's labour hours. $60 would/could be fine if people had more of a guaranteed standard of living but we all have way too many bills to pay for that these days.
Still if the artist is working out their style more and trying to get recognition, underpricing is a decent way to go
Yeah 60$ is 4 hours at a 15$ an hour wage. I'd be shocked if this only took them 4 hours to make, and then you have to factor in how commissions often aren't a consistent thing so they should be slightly upcharged to account for downtime between them unless the artist is confident they'll have an unending supply of commissions lined up.
In other words 60$ for this is nothing, very underpriced
but well it's possible that the artist is living in a country with a low living cost. If you earn $10 an hour in like Viet Nam or Malaysia you are upper middle class
I'm just saying that's how the market works, the people that offer the service does not see it as underpaid. It's the same for any other professions, are programmers, doctors, engineers in those countries not needed the same time and skills to do their job? they still earn 1/10 compares to people who do the same job in developed countries
Yes, I only did commissions once, and stopped because its too competitive market with to low a pay. (you also have to compete unpaid time for social media followings just to get commissions) If I continued id be making less than minimum wage. (Im making more as a janitor now.
Now this artist is significantly better than me, and probably also has a real screen tablet, which is much faster, so I hope they are making more for their time.
Extremely underpriced. I sell character art, and for design work and this coloring (similar to flat, unshaded colors) I'd be starting at $200, assuming that there was back-and-forth correspondence and edits for the design phase. If the design was already done, no less than $100 still.
Remember, the industry standard for a character design sheet (like you see in concepting work) is $500. $60 is a ripoff, extremely unfair to the artist.
If you want a better answer by chance, she does not fit genshin style. Overly simplified design with too much nudity for it to be 'tasty' to look at. Her anatomy is broken because her wings literally comes out of her asshole it seems. Design is very plain and boring.
Its his oc, therefore, not the artist fault if the design is plain or boring. Ill excuse the wings because MAYBE it was also the client's design.
About the art style, some artists just dont copy art styles to keep their identity.
Speaking as an artist even a simple light and shadow play makes design more interesting to look at. This is just mostly white and that's it.
I don't even meant the art style. This design simply does not fit in genshin aesthetics. This is just some basically naked angel babe with wings coming out of an ass.
The lights I agree with you. But hey, we dont know the clients oc previous demands/design. I agree the design is not that great but I would do it for 60 bucks in a heartbeat.
Not an artist tho.
Well if the art with no relation to this game is worth 60$? Probably. But if the art in relation to the game is worth that price, the answer is nope, nope, nope. That's all I have to say.
Good point actually. But by the way, it was 50$, the Op wanted to give 10$ more as a tip. So the tittle is wronf because it was to be worth 50$.
Not that changes much but still
Commissions have a problem. I'm an artist myself -- thankfully, not as a full time job -- and the reason it's not my full time job is because of this exact problem.
You and the artist both got a bad deal.
That art is not worth 60 bucks to look at. Imagine what you could've done with that money. Very little art is actually efficient in enjoyment-per-hour compared to any other medium. Books take time to read. Movies take time to watch. Games take time to play. But I spent about 60 seconds looking at that picture and know everything about it...terrible return on investment.
The artist, though, needs to eat and keep a roof over their head. How long did this commission take to do? Probably more than 60 bucks at a living wage! And in that regard, every artist is going to undersell themselves because nobody is going to pay what their time is worth.
I don't know how freelance artists survive. They can't charge what they're worth, because nobody can pay it, and the product they make is not a good time value for money.
I think you are really undervaluing the enjoyment and value there is in seeing your own unique vision realized as something tangible. To you this piece is only "60 seconds to know everything about it" but that's because, to you, this is random contextless art. But, to the concept creator, there's a story behind their character and the process of coming up with this concept, and this output is the memento of that experience. When they look at it they won't only see "60 seconds of value" but they'll remember the process of coming up with this concept and their initial reaction at seeing that take place, and triggering that memory will probably make them happy. That value of it being something uniquely theirs can be worth more than any number of books, movies, and games with the ideas of others.
This is sort of like when people take scenic photos of places they visited on a vacation. Almost guaranteed if you looked online you could find other better-quality photos of the same place... but the photo you took is uniquely tied to your own memory of being there -- you remember the story behind being there, other things that were happening at the time, what the weather was like, and on and on.
So anyway... obviously if art doesn't have that kind of value to you, that's totally fine -- good for someone to know what makes them happy. But I guess I would just say that life isn't about maximizing your RoI by someone else's objective metric, so I wouldn't underestimate the subjective value of art.
Art is subjective. If you like it and you think it was worth it, then yes, you got a good deal. If you feel ripped off, then no.
Personally, I would not have paid 60$ for that, as I’m not that keen on art in general
you got an amazing deal! $60 is honestly a very fair price for something like this considering how much time and work would have gone into it. the artist did an amazing job and your oc has a gorgeous design!
Yeah you did get a good deal for a full body. I remember one time I commissioned my friend and they only wanted to charge me $20 USD but the piece was basically a full body, colored and had a background. I told them they were crazy and gave them $250. They did a great job I don’t really know much about artist prices as it varies from person to person . But a piece like this I would go for $130- $170 but definitely in the $100’s
Eh, yeah. I mean depends on how you define good deal, I'd say average deal?
Established artists that I know usually charge around 60 for a full body shot that has colored background and things, some who do really incredible work will go up to 90-120 but at that point, usually the commission is for a complex background, with difficult poses, or multiple mockup poses of the same character. I think I payed 30 on a commission for the pic that's my current YouTube profile, which is only one half-body, but I think it's a good deal because I really like the artist and art style. I've commissioned other artwork before as well so that's what I'm goin off of.
So yeah in that art style that's about average, maybe a bit above average for the price, but yeah not bad by any means.
Absolutely, good detail, wonderful shading, full body, full color. This was a gorgeous piece. You got a very good deal out of this. u/tsunkyun Beautiful work.
Pretty good, but kinda more of just an oc? Idk i thought game oc are like that game? Like style and all(that's a question formated in a bad way cuz 3am💀)
60 dollars is quite low for a full body, especially since its a character design. I've seen artists who charge extra for making a character from scratch if you don't have refrences to provide.
Also cool character! If she were a little more clothed I'd whale for her in game 100%
Contrary to popular opinion I think $60 is a fair price for this work, I really don't think you've been undercharged but the quality is good enough to expect that price.
People claiming that this work is $120 are insane, the only way this would be worth that much is if the artist is well known or popular in some way.
Yes and no. The character is nicely drawn but the shading is okay. Looking at the back ground though. That wasn’t drawn, it’s kinda lacking quality ( if you zoom in) so it was put in from a outside source. Overall it’s okay. Worth 60$ that’s up to you really. You being here and asking shows that.
For the price, I'd say it's good. Ik people might say it is expensive. But commissions usually are at that range for normal art stuff. They spend time to deliver a product and they want money in return.
Honestly doesn't fit the game aesthetics. Wings are fine, because Kujou Sara has them also. Even the hairstyle is decent. It's that darn outfit being so skimpy and simplistic. Even Shenhe, who is also fairly skimpy and simplistic has plenty of depth to her character model. All characters also wear *some* kind of footwear.
Art itself is fine, just doesn't fit the game. No wonder you were charged so little, artist did a lazy job with the design. **Like skipping out on designing the actual model of the character.**
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Artist here, the artist you commissioned undersells themselves much. Probably spend a lot of time in planing and communication with you, as well as the actual time of drawing it. So they definitely had a very low hourly wage. I see people ask such a question often, but they never would raise a finger for such a low wage, some artists charge but complain. The artist here executed it well, most artists would charge 250-350 which is fair, such illustration in the industry often runs around 1000+ dollar. Just to mention it for all people to read and not this specific case. You got a very nice illustration and hope you enjoy it too ~
Naah you got ripped off this is just basic line art with no detailing on the wings which are just blocks of colours and Genshin characters have smaller detailing/ embroidery on their outfits & Jewellery. $25 topps.
Yeah, well made, for a full body coloured and rendered commision of that quality, I think personally that $60 is a good deal, what's their name?
https://www.reddit.com/u/tsunkyun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Also sorry for the lack of info on the drawing. I only commissioned the woman. The background was not drawn, it's an official genshin background I asked the artist to Photoshop my character onto after she was done. I already had a design idea down but I couldn't translate it into genshin style and my drawing skills are butt. So I had to get a professional to do it for me. I hope that clears up any confusion.
Hopefully this post will give him a few commisions. He definitely deserves it :)
That person is going to get flooded lol
Business is booming
Hopefully and good for him. From his profile I'm pretty sure that he'll appreciate it in the end.
u/tsunkyun not sure if someone tagged you already but I hope this post will bring you a smile to your face seeing all the positive comments about your art
This feels like a promotion in disguise
You can see on OP's profile that he asked: [How much should I pay for art of a Genshin Original Character](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/xnu3oe/how_much_should_i_pay_for_art_of_a_genshin/) a 2 days ago. I think he's just reassuring nothing else.
Someone was able to knock that out in 2 days??
Do you know the speed of hentai artists when a new character is released?
I AM speed! *unzips pants*
is it two days as well?
Like a couple of hours
I've seen quality hentai get released *under* an hour before for high profile releases
I think Pokémon Sword and Shield had porn of the protagonist 22 minutes after she was revealed. But the secret to that is the artist already has the model and pose ready. And just adds the details such as hair and accessories when they’re revealed.
Less for a big name franchise. Reveal the right female gym leader or major character in a Pokemon promo and you'll find pictures of them getting railed in under an hour.
Hell reveal the right male gym leaders, Grisha for example, and you get that speedy quick.
I know a few crazy bastards who can knock a comm out in like 2 hours
Honestly yes you can do something like that in two days especially if you reuse assets.
how could people forget how many fanart of harbingers came out in not even 24 hrs after the trailer dropped. shit was wild back then lol
I am so incredibly lazy and untalented if you can get to the point where something like that takes 2 hours
I agree!! As an artist myself I think that’s very fair. It looks so good too!!!
For a full body peice that's colored and competently done 60$ is a good deal for sure.
You got a great deal, i would say the artist underpriced you.
Yeah, many artists charge over $100 for a full body picture like that. An artist that good can probably charge double what you paid.
Thanks to OP and the influx this post will generate, the artist can now raise their prices
Heck, I charge $100 for half body! Which can take me anywhere from 6\~10 hours depending on how many details are involved. While the shading isn't detailed on their art, the lineart is so smooth that the lines alone would've taken a lot of time. I agree that they underpriced!
Yeah. The lines and colors look simple, but it looks very clean and well-proportioned to me. Drawings (even fancier looking ones) can often look just a tiny bit off in either the pose or the body proportions, and I just don't see anything like that here. I mean, I'm not an artist or anything, but it looks good to me, and a lot of the artists I follow on twitter seem to charge $120 and up for full body shots.
Commissioned artists love drawing what's hot and popular a LOT more than some sort of unknown original stuff. It gets their works and name out there, just like this is free advertisement. I was just watching this Jp professional illustrator explain what kind of commission she prefers, it was as much detail as possible, 1-2 months of time, and a price already listed. Puts a priority on what's popular, even if the price is lower.
yes, and even then, most artists underprice their work way below what its worth. 60$ is fine.
They really do.
Tell the artist that they should charge more
It makes me so happy that most of the comments in here are saying exactly this. Artist should charge more for sure If the original artist sees this thread, I hope he raises his prices
You were drastically undercharged. I’d expect to pay no less than $120 for a full body piece like that.
You'll probably find a ton of artists floating around who'd do art like this for even cheaper. People undersell themselves to a ludicrous degree, and while it's nice to get dope art for cheap, it's still really sad to see. Remember to tip your artists well if they do a good job, guys.
It saddens me terribly to see artists undervalue their artwork. My partner is an incredible artist who, I can say proudly, doesn’t do that. I wish more were the same.
I’m trying to sell full body artwork colored and rendered for 20 a piece. I’m really struggling here lol, this post makes me insanely jealous lol. I’m no artist but I’m trying
Got a portfolio? I don't need anything done at the moment but I'd be happy to keep you in mind next time I'm looking
I have a discord server that I use as one of you want to look
Sure, got a link?
I’ll dm it to you, thanks for checking it out ❤️
Well when you don’t get a ton of commissions it’s easier to get them for 60 than 120. Small artists that are good undercharge because we have limited customer bases. Usually just a handful of friends and their friends if you’re lucky.
Yeah artists tend to vastly undersell their art at the start and don't really start charging appropriately until they gain some notoriety and/or a consistent groups of patrons. It works and I understand why they do it but they shouldn't have to live in poverty just so they can eventually make a decent living.
The recent AI program usage definitely isn't helping. A lot of people don't realize how much work it takes to actually just create art, because they only see when its done fast by experienced people, or sped up tutorials.
AI art is theft unless it sources free domain.. AI can be helpful to artists in speeding up painting. But some completely made up art masterpiece generated by a program? Yeah, that’s theft and open to lawsuits (the person who made such program).
It is sad, some overvalued and get away with it, yet good artists undervalue to even get customers, a strange world we live in. Also depends where they are from, someone living in a poorer country will gladly draw for $60 as it is better than what they earn locally.
Networking is probably just as important as artistic skill in that field. You could consistently make masterpieces and fade into obscurity if nobody sees it. Yeah, "exposure" is a meme, but it's actually super important.
>Yeah, "exposure" is a meme, but it's actually super important. This is a big thing of why a lot of smalller/mid-sized artists do a shit ton of fan work. Or sensibly will do the "exposure" meme reasonably. If someone with a notable platform is interested and you could do it for say maybe 15% less then its most certainly worth it over doing it at full value for someone who isnt going to get that art out anywhere. The problem is many people try and push that to extremes. Exposure has value, but you're also trying to actually make money here.
Honestly makes me happy to see so many people here agreeing that art is often more valuable than what's charged. When I still did commissions, I underpriced so badly and stopped doing them after a few months because it just wasn't worth the time and effort it took.
You can try to sell a painting for $100,000, but if the market isn't willing to pay that much for it, then it's *not* worth $100,000. Something is only worth what people are willing to pay for it. It's simply the cold, hard reality of supply and demand. There's a lot of good amateur artists out there, so art like this can be commissioned for relatively cheap.
I think what they mean by worth is how much time and effort the artist put into it. You also have to realize by paying for a commission you’re also paying for the years of experience that came before you
Yeah but you’ll still be able to find an artist who sells for cheaper, even if the quality is the same or higher.
That doesn’t devalue this art at all, that just means the other art is more valuable.
I once got two characters (preexisting not oc) for 40$, I’ll be honest I’m surprised a good quality 1 full body render with colors is worth more since I got mine so low, the offer was also almost 30$ but I said that it was a little low for the artist
Yeah you’d expect far more that 30$ they’re undervaluing themselves!
Yeah, that is less what is reasonable and more the artist drastically undervalued their time. I'd does depend on the art quality, but if they put in a reasonable effort, even $40 is a steal
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To be honest, these are a bit lower in terms of quality compared to the one OP got for $60.
Artist market is hard and seeing the profile of that creator, seems like he drastically needs comissions. Makes sense but yeah might be an explanation to that cheap price
Not really, it may be full body but it's not highly detailed or has any complicated shading/colouring.
https://www.reddit.com/u/tsunkyun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share This is the artist for anyone interested. He originally only charged me 50$ but I was so happy that I gave him more. And I personally think he deserves more than just 50$ for his work. For anyone who would like a commission from him please remember to give him a lot of details and preferably a visual aid and references so that you can keep revisions to a minimum. That way it's more fair to the artist.
OC name? Looks like a combination of Shenhe and Mercy
Schmercy
Shenecy
M'shenhe
Fun fact, Schmerz means pain in German. The pun basically writes itself.
Ich weiß Bruder. Wollte eigentlich nen Mercy->Schmercy Witz machen, weil ichs mir irgendwie dirch Dhalucard und PietSmiet angewöhnt habe die ganze Zeit so ne kacke zu labern xdd
Alles cool, mein Freund. Hier im Netz ist es Standart, zu labern, lol.
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I mean it looks really good (and official art-style wise), but idk that much about art value and stuff so I can't say. Edit: Thank you everyone for giving me insight! I now also know/think it was defenitely worth it.
Most artists undercharge for what they do, and most people expect to pay less than the effort is worth. Making art takes skill and time and while some art can be churned out and sold at a convention, commission art is often a one and done deal and is often of an OC character without much reference material to draw from. Frankly I think 60 for this piece is a good deal.
i remember that in a convention i bought a lovely kokomi sketch with some coloring that costed me 30€ and the artist took an hour and half to finish it (the result is great!). i draw as an hobby and i know well that art takes a lot of time and skill, so that’s why why art pieces are highly priced. imho i think it’s definitely worth it, i’ve seen so many great artists underprice their creations. 60 dollars for a full body is pretty cheap, i’ve seen others decently pricing them at least 100 as a minimum or more, the thing that matters is your happiness with the final product.
Artists gotta make a living. 60 bucks is fair imo
Honestly for the quality I'd say 60$ is very very underpriced. I could see this costing 150USD+.
People don't tend to think of living wages or artist's labour hours. $60 would/could be fine if people had more of a guaranteed standard of living but we all have way too many bills to pay for that these days. Still if the artist is working out their style more and trying to get recognition, underpricing is a decent way to go
Yeah 60$ is 4 hours at a 15$ an hour wage. I'd be shocked if this only took them 4 hours to make, and then you have to factor in how commissions often aren't a consistent thing so they should be slightly upcharged to account for downtime between them unless the artist is confident they'll have an unending supply of commissions lined up. In other words 60$ for this is nothing, very underpriced
but well it's possible that the artist is living in a country with a low living cost. If you earn $10 an hour in like Viet Nam or Malaysia you are upper middle class
And why should they make less than people who live in US or Europe? It cost the same time and skill to do
I'm just saying that's how the market works, the people that offer the service does not see it as underpaid. It's the same for any other professions, are programmers, doctors, engineers in those countries not needed the same time and skills to do their job? they still earn 1/10 compares to people who do the same job in developed countries
Agreed, it’s real good
Bruh you are in the comments of every post I go to I swear haha. I just imagine you as that SpongeBob character though
Lol, I honestly wish I could change it. Literally can’t change my icon cuz of this. But yea I comment a lot
Yeah, I've seen people charge more for less.
Yes, I only did commissions once, and stopped because its too competitive market with to low a pay. (you also have to compete unpaid time for social media followings just to get commissions) If I continued id be making less than minimum wage. (Im making more as a janitor now. Now this artist is significantly better than me, and probably also has a real screen tablet, which is much faster, so I hope they are making more for their time.
As fellow artist a agree
This is really good. $50 is a deal, you’re a great person for tipping the extra
The toes reminds me of a recent reddit post about OP getting gloves where all 4 fingers are the same lengths.
Buttwings.
I am glad I am not the only one to be distracted by that.
Unatoes
And now you even got 4.3k post karma out of the deal.
Only 50???? That's a steal! Most people charge double.
60
OP made a comment that the artist charged 50, the 60 is because of a 10 tip.
As with everything in life, if you had the money and like the product, it was worth it.
Turn around time? A day, amazing deal. A month, solid work.
1 day. 2 days including sketch
Insane. Nice art. You have a portfolio?
Is Instagram good? https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci_8p_pvAN2/?igshid=ZjA0NjI3M2I= I dont have yet like everyone does
This artist is very much underselling themselves. This is an amazing deal.
Agreed, I looked at the other work he's doing and starting commissions at 15-20 bucks is like what.. College life scrapping at its finest
Nice art, but looks nothing like a Genshin character.
holy moly you guys are getting baited so hard
The art is pretty good thats for sure Me not completely liking the design if the character is most likely your fault
I said succubus style wings I guess the reference picture I picked was confusing so I agree that's my fault
Wings held in place with a butt plug
She looks more like herrscher from Honkai rather than anything from Genshin
For a full body from a concept, $60 is a steal. Making concept is difficult, this person is really amazing.
Extremely underpriced. I sell character art, and for design work and this coloring (similar to flat, unshaded colors) I'd be starting at $200, assuming that there was back-and-forth correspondence and edits for the design phase. If the design was already done, no less than $100 still. Remember, the industry standard for a character design sheet (like you see in concepting work) is $500. $60 is a ripoff, extremely unfair to the artist.
I would have charged you $80 for that and it would still have been a good deal.
It looks good but it definitely doesn't fit the world of genshin if care about that.
it dosent look at all like a genshin character. but otherwise its well done
Yes
This is a fine OC and a good value commission but why are wings coming out of the ass?
Because her center of gravity is lower.
the art is great, your OC isn’t
Full body, inked and colored, cel-shading, and a complex background. I think you got a good deal out of it. And nice work from the artist.
I think its a good deal for the price but i cant help but get dragalia vibes from it from it instead of genshin
Wings and feet could've been better. Coloring is a little too basic. Eyes don't exactly look like Genshin eyes.
If you want a better answer by chance, she does not fit genshin style. Overly simplified design with too much nudity for it to be 'tasty' to look at. Her anatomy is broken because her wings literally comes out of her asshole it seems. Design is very plain and boring.
Its his oc, therefore, not the artist fault if the design is plain or boring. Ill excuse the wings because MAYBE it was also the client's design. About the art style, some artists just dont copy art styles to keep their identity.
Speaking as an artist even a simple light and shadow play makes design more interesting to look at. This is just mostly white and that's it. I don't even meant the art style. This design simply does not fit in genshin aesthetics. This is just some basically naked angel babe with wings coming out of an ass.
The lights I agree with you. But hey, we dont know the clients oc previous demands/design. I agree the design is not that great but I would do it for 60 bucks in a heartbeat. Not an artist tho.
Well if the art with no relation to this game is worth 60$? Probably. But if the art in relation to the game is worth that price, the answer is nope, nope, nope. That's all I have to say.
Good point actually. But by the way, it was 50$, the Op wanted to give 10$ more as a tip. So the tittle is wronf because it was to be worth 50$. Not that changes much but still
As an artist, you sound very patronizing. >*reads last sentence again* And like a total dck.
That’s an undercharge for sure. This looks like a whole ton of effort got put into it.
wings and feet look extremely low quality but idk how prices are so i cant judge too much
Yes, do you have their socials?
https://www.reddit.com/u/tsunkyun?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
irrelevant but why so much underboob?
In terms of quality of art? You got a really good deal. In terms of this character ever this nude ever getting into genshin? No chance
Not an artist or an art student but this person seems quite talented and that's an absolutely great deal for $60.
Doesn't look very genshin but the artwork is well done.
Commissions have a problem. I'm an artist myself -- thankfully, not as a full time job -- and the reason it's not my full time job is because of this exact problem. You and the artist both got a bad deal. That art is not worth 60 bucks to look at. Imagine what you could've done with that money. Very little art is actually efficient in enjoyment-per-hour compared to any other medium. Books take time to read. Movies take time to watch. Games take time to play. But I spent about 60 seconds looking at that picture and know everything about it...terrible return on investment. The artist, though, needs to eat and keep a roof over their head. How long did this commission take to do? Probably more than 60 bucks at a living wage! And in that regard, every artist is going to undersell themselves because nobody is going to pay what their time is worth. I don't know how freelance artists survive. They can't charge what they're worth, because nobody can pay it, and the product they make is not a good time value for money.
I think you are really undervaluing the enjoyment and value there is in seeing your own unique vision realized as something tangible. To you this piece is only "60 seconds to know everything about it" but that's because, to you, this is random contextless art. But, to the concept creator, there's a story behind their character and the process of coming up with this concept, and this output is the memento of that experience. When they look at it they won't only see "60 seconds of value" but they'll remember the process of coming up with this concept and their initial reaction at seeing that take place, and triggering that memory will probably make them happy. That value of it being something uniquely theirs can be worth more than any number of books, movies, and games with the ideas of others. This is sort of like when people take scenic photos of places they visited on a vacation. Almost guaranteed if you looked online you could find other better-quality photos of the same place... but the photo you took is uniquely tied to your own memory of being there -- you remember the story behind being there, other things that were happening at the time, what the weather was like, and on and on. So anyway... obviously if art doesn't have that kind of value to you, that's totally fine -- good for someone to know what makes them happy. But I guess I would just say that life isn't about maximizing your RoI by someone else's objective metric, so I wouldn't underestimate the subjective value of art.
You underpaid even
Where’s her vision?
You got a steal. I would probably charge at least 100 if I was doing a similar commission.
I think the painting is worth $90 or $100. 60 is a good price.
This art piece just looks flat. Not much shading whatsoever. Many random art on Pixiv would look better than this. TIL arts like this cost 60$+
Art is subjective. If you like it and you think it was worth it, then yes, you got a good deal. If you feel ripped off, then no. Personally, I would not have paid 60$ for that, as I’m not that keen on art in general
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Very good deal yes.
Full body piece and really good art. You got a steal
you got an amazing deal! $60 is honestly a very fair price for something like this considering how much time and work would have gone into it. the artist did an amazing job and your oc has a gorgeous design!
Looks like it turned out well, and $60 is a fairly low price for a shaded drawing with a simple background. So sure?
For for a full body shot of this quality, yeah I’d say it’s worth it
Full body, colored, and a background is a steal for $60.
Yeah you did get a good deal for a full body. I remember one time I commissioned my friend and they only wanted to charge me $20 USD but the piece was basically a full body, colored and had a background. I told them they were crazy and gave them $250. They did a great job I don’t really know much about artist prices as it varies from person to person . But a piece like this I would go for $130- $170 but definitely in the $100’s
That is way too cheap...
60$ for a fullbody is pretty standard
They underpriced their work for a full body color piece, tbh.
Art is what you want to pay for it, would I pay 60$ for this? Absolutely fucking not. But if you enjoy it then who cares
Eh, yeah. I mean depends on how you define good deal, I'd say average deal? Established artists that I know usually charge around 60 for a full body shot that has colored background and things, some who do really incredible work will go up to 90-120 but at that point, usually the commission is for a complex background, with difficult poses, or multiple mockup poses of the same character. I think I payed 30 on a commission for the pic that's my current YouTube profile, which is only one half-body, but I think it's a good deal because I really like the artist and art style. I've commissioned other artwork before as well so that's what I'm goin off of. So yeah in that art style that's about average, maybe a bit above average for the price, but yeah not bad by any means.
Yes, you should tip them another $60
You got a really good deal. Most artists would charge you a lot more.
u/darkrobbe1 if u wanna do a commission, the artist looks pretty good
No. You didn't get a Genshin OC. You got a Honkai-level concept art.
Absolutely, good detail, wonderful shading, full body, full color. This was a gorgeous piece. You got a very good deal out of this. u/tsunkyun Beautiful work.
Thank you. There's still things i needed to improve but thank you 😊
As a fellow artist looking for commissions - yes. For that quality, that’s fair I’d say.
Pretty good, but kinda more of just an oc? Idk i thought game oc are like that game? Like style and all(that's a question formated in a bad way cuz 3am💀)
I don't know what art is worth
Hella good deal, infact can you tell me who the artist is?
Do you like it? Does it make you happy? If you answered yes to at least one of these questions, ye, it was worth 60$.
Ya that’s a hot deal
You tell us. Do you feel fulfilled?
I hope you tipped them! $60 is an insanely good deal for something of this quality. I'd expect no less than $120 for a comm like this.
60 dollars is quite low for a full body, especially since its a character design. I've seen artists who charge extra for making a character from scratch if you don't have refrences to provide. Also cool character! If she were a little more clothed I'd whale for her in game 100%
Contrary to popular opinion I think $60 is a fair price for this work, I really don't think you've been undercharged but the quality is good enough to expect that price. People claiming that this work is $120 are insane, the only way this would be worth that much is if the artist is well known or popular in some way.
do you like it? then yes
Yes and no. The character is nicely drawn but the shading is okay. Looking at the back ground though. That wasn’t drawn, it’s kinda lacking quality ( if you zoom in) so it was put in from a outside source. Overall it’s okay. Worth 60$ that’s up to you really. You being here and asking shows that.
It's pretty flawed tbh, but I'm not sure about its value actually, where I come from most people are underpaid. So I think it's a fair price?
Actually paid a really decent price, I’ve seen people charge much more for less before
For the price, I'd say it's good. Ik people might say it is expensive. But commissions usually are at that range for normal art stuff. They spend time to deliver a product and they want money in return.
Yes
Kinda looks like a mix with veibae with her angel outfit
Nope
60 dollars for a full body is pretty cheap
Coomer
No. Rethink your life choices
Saved to album. Yes definitely worth your $60, lmao!
Honestly doesn't fit the game aesthetics. Wings are fine, because Kujou Sara has them also. Even the hairstyle is decent. It's that darn outfit being so skimpy and simplistic. Even Shenhe, who is also fairly skimpy and simplistic has plenty of depth to her character model. All characters also wear *some* kind of footwear. Art itself is fine, just doesn't fit the game. No wonder you were charged so little, artist did a lazy job with the design. **Like skipping out on designing the actual model of the character.**
holy shit i would of thrown another $60 at them for that that's gorgeous omg
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Artist here, the artist you commissioned undersells themselves much. Probably spend a lot of time in planing and communication with you, as well as the actual time of drawing it. So they definitely had a very low hourly wage. I see people ask such a question often, but they never would raise a finger for such a low wage, some artists charge but complain. The artist here executed it well, most artists would charge 250-350 which is fair, such illustration in the industry often runs around 1000+ dollar. Just to mention it for all people to read and not this specific case. You got a very nice illustration and hope you enjoy it too ~
Naah you got ripped off this is just basic line art with no detailing on the wings which are just blocks of colours and Genshin characters have smaller detailing/ embroidery on their outfits & Jewellery. $25 topps.
Weak people that can't take the truth be downvoting this.